00:00:53.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:44.000As you probably know, I served in law enforcement for 44 years and had a chance.
00:01:50.000I started my career in Detroit where I was born.
00:01:53.000And after being laid off, went to California and I was with the Los Angeles Police Department for almost three decades, rose through the ranks.
00:02:04.000And then I fulfilled my dream of becoming the chief.
00:02:07.000I went on and became the chief at Portland, Maine.
00:02:10.000A lot of people say, how do you leave Southern California and go to Portland, Maine?
00:02:16.000Well, that's a good question, but I did it.
00:02:40.000I ended up staying eight years until I woke up one morning.
00:02:43.000I said, I guess I want to go into politics.
00:02:47.000And that's how I got started on the journey.
00:02:50.000As you probably know, I was in the last cycle running for Michigan governor, leading GOP candidate until I got taken off the ballot based on some petition signatures.
00:03:05.000And after that was over, I thought I was, for the most part, done with politics.
00:03:12.000And then people kept saying, you know, you need to run for governor again.
00:03:16.000And then when Debbie Stavanaugh left or is leaving, it vacated her seat's going to be vacant.
00:05:56.000No, and the stories that are pouring in of young women, there's this one from Baltimore, this young lady holds the door in the elevator for a guy who should not have been on the streets who previously raped, and he ended up raping and murdering her.
00:07:18.000You know, and I say, you know, when you talk, when the defund the movement was at its height, of course, a bunch of lefties got on board with that.
00:07:27.000And then they realized, well, this is a bad strategy.
00:07:31.000So they backed off of the defund the movement, defund the police movement.
00:07:36.000But the damage was already done and it's still done in many places.
00:07:40.000They can't hire enough police that are resigning, retiring.
00:08:46.000Well, I think what got to him, the environment, George Source money.
00:08:53.000I'll say it again, George Soros, money.
00:08:57.000You know, when you are a true public servant and you know that you're working for the people, and that's what I bring to the table, I understand my role.
00:09:21.000And so, you know, when I look at and what I learned through the course of my research relative to the U.S. Senate, they've never had a law enforcement or a police chief elected to the U.S. Senate.
00:09:36.000And given what's going on today across our country, we need someone who understands what's going on on the ground.
00:09:42.000Not to take anything away from those who have served as prosecutors, but they're not cops.
00:10:59.000And remember, retirement is about more than just investments.
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00:11:19.000This has been overshadowed by four indictments, but it shouldn't be.
00:11:23.000Donald Trump is undergoing a civil trial in the state of New York.
00:11:31.000And of course, not a single Republican AG across the country is willing to use their political power to investigate any one of the Democrats.
00:11:40.000Again, this is what's so interesting is that she didn't just do this through criminal means.
00:11:47.000And so she's doing this through an investigation via a judge without a jury, despite there being no victims saying Donald Trump defrauded the people of New York.
00:12:00.000So Letitia James, who campaigned on removing Donald Trump and getting Trump, deliberately engineered a legal case where a jury was not required.
00:12:24.000Letitia James actively barred him from getting a jury trial because she knew a jury would be harder to get a conviction from.
00:12:32.000The case against Trump is called a fraud case.
00:12:36.000The way that fraud statutes are written in the criminal code, it is so broad, so broad.
00:12:42.000And in this particular criminal code on the books in New York, it is under section 63, 12, saying that there does not have to be a victim.
00:12:58.000Is that it just if the government thinks that there was fraud, then it's fraud.
00:13:05.000So the judge issued a fine against all of Trump's lawyers.
00:13:08.000And according to an experienced New York attorney we spoke with, the judge only did this because they were representing Trump.
00:13:16.000He never would have done this with any other legal team over the legal strategy they pursued.
00:13:22.000So yesterday, Trump was put under a gag order with a threat of jail time for criticizing various members of the court.
00:13:29.000One of James's goals is to extract hundreds of millions of dollars from Trump in supposed gains from fraud.
00:13:38.000Man, this just basically, as simple as it gets, they can just find a political enemy in any state, put in front of a sympathetic judge, not even a jury, and take your stuff, take your wealth.
00:15:27.000That last five minutes was outstanding because the judge essentially conceded that the statute of attentions that we won at the Court of Appeals is in effect.
00:15:40.000Therefore, about 80% of the case is over.
00:15:45.000So there's a statute of limitations issue.
00:15:47.000This could easily be appealed, but they're going after Trump's business empire.
00:15:53.000And this is in addition to that crazy E. Gene Carroll case, the Alvin Bragg indictment in New York, Fannie Willis in Georgia, Jack Smith with two separate looming federal indictments.
00:16:07.000Has there ever been a man as targeted with lawfare as Donald Trump in the modern political era?
00:16:36.000We're just sitting on our hands and hoping it gets better.
00:16:41.000Listen, as students begin heading back to school, do you think they'll be learning about the founding principles that made America the freest, most prosperous nation in history?
00:16:48.000Will they learn that our unalienable rights are God-given and not granted by government?
00:16:52.000Will they be given a full and honest account of our nation's history?
00:16:56.000The answer to all these questions is yes for students at Hillsdale College.
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00:18:17.000And this was a win for the American people.
00:18:19.000This was a blow against the swamp cartel, the uniparty system that's been oppressing the American people, that's given us the $33 trillion national debt and a $2 trillion deficit this year with the Republican majority that has done very little in terms of truly engaging and throwing down, if you will, on the border issue or the weaponization of the government against its citizens.
00:18:40.000And had a former speaker now who led us, I'll use that term led loosely, but led us in passing a continuing resolution on Saturday that the Democrats in the House voted 209 to 1.
00:18:54.000And that was just a few months after we passed an unlimited increase to the debt ceiling where Democrats overwhelmingly supported that because it allows us to spend as much as we want with no limits between now and January 25.
00:19:06.000And of course, the uniparty system is wonderful about coming together and spending your hard-earned pack taxpayer money.
00:19:56.000Members of Congress took their own political futures at risk, if you will, and were willing to sacrifice their own ambitions and their own, the safety and comfort of a congressional seat in order to challenge their own presumptive speaker to vote time and again for change in terms of leadership of the conference.
00:20:15.000And the reason that I primarily gave for that was we couldn't repeat the failures of the past where Republicans, when we had majorities in the House in the last 15 years or so, we passed all the major spending bills, predominantly Democrat votes, something the Democrats would never and have never done.
00:20:31.000And so ultimately, Speaker, former Speaker McCarthy did prevail on the wee hours in the morning of January 7.
00:20:38.000And I pledged my personal support to him and told him, you know, I'm behind you.
00:20:42.000I want you to be successful because the country needs you to be successful.
00:20:46.000And that was pretty strong through April until the debt limit agreement where he passed that unconditional debt ceiling, you know, surrender to the Biden demands of no spending cuts in return for a debt increase.
00:20:59.000And then he promised Charlie to pass all, or at least bring to the floor for a vote all 12 of our spending bills, our appropriations bills, something that hasn't happened in 20 years, and that we would at least have votes on the floor and that he would he committed to going back to pre-COVID level spending for non-defense discretionary.
00:21:15.000Then he reneged on that, waffled on that, just in terms of bringing, you know, trying to implement our conservative policies and cutting our spending to a very modest $1.471 trillion for non-defense discretionary.
00:21:27.000And that number doesn't mean a whole lot to people, but essentially that would cut about $115 billion this year.
00:21:33.000Take our deficit from $2.2 trillion to $2.1.
00:21:54.000We should have stayed there and completed the negligent work there.
00:21:58.000And we only passed or brought to the floor four more bills for a vote and three of those passed.
00:22:03.000So we go to September 30 and it was clear to me actually on September 29 last Friday that he was willing to do anything, anything to avoid a government shutdown.
00:22:13.000And when you're willing to not, when you're not willing to endure any pressure or temporary discomfort of a pause in the non-essential 15% of government operations, that means you're guaranteed to lose in any kind of negotiations with the Senate or the White House.
00:22:27.000And he proved that, and that was the final straw for me.
00:22:30.000He proved that with that continuing resolution, keeping all the Biden-Pelosi-Schumer policies in place for another 45 days, the policies that are crushing us fiscally and bankrupting the country and the policies under which the American people are truly suffering, as you know.
00:22:45.000And so it's clear that he was not going to keep his commitments.
00:22:48.000We knew he was probably not the change agent that we needed, obviously, but we had to give him a chance to demonstrate that one way or another after he was elected speaker.
00:22:57.000And so I compliment my friend Matt Gates for being the one who had the courage to go ahead and file the motion.
00:23:04.000I had let him know I would absolutely vote for it if anyone filed it.
00:23:06.000I was not going to vote to keep Kevin McCarthy under any circumstances.
00:23:09.000And, you know, we're trying to decide when was the best time to do it.
00:23:12.000When did it make the most sense strategically?
00:23:23.000Were you surprised that Democrats did not bail Kevin McCarthy out?
00:23:29.000Because when I was talking to Matt over the weekend, he actually thought that, you know, this is an important vote, but, you know, Democrats are going to do this.
00:23:41.000On the one hand, I thought, you know, Kevin McCarthy's kind of doing everything they want on the big stuff.
00:23:45.000I mean, we passed messaging bills out of the House that have no chance in the Senate, and he kind of was trying to hold the Republican coalition there together to do this stuff that was just kind of messaging bills.
00:23:56.000But when the chips were down and we really needed him to lead on the debt ceiling and in the appropriations process, he was MIA and was essentially doing what the Democrats wanted.
00:24:05.000So I thought, why wouldn't they just sort of protect him?
00:24:08.000You know, they could probably get some concessions out of him to do so.
00:24:11.000And because they could only do worse, I would submit, with a Republican speaker.
00:24:16.000On the other hand, it was hard to imagine.
00:24:17.000They don't like Kevin McCarthy a whole lot more than any other Republican.
00:24:21.000And so I think there's probably some personal animosity towards him from the Democrats.
00:24:24.000And so it was also hard to imagine they would sort of try to bail him out.
00:24:31.000We were going to do what we thought was right and either force the Democrats to save Speaker McCarthy to demonstrate once again who he really was and who he was working for or to be able to vacate him by going ahead and having what we thought was going to be around 10 votes.
00:24:46.000We had 11, as you noted, that agreed to advance the motion to, or voted against tabling the motion and allowed it to proceed.
00:24:53.000And we had eight ultimately vote to vacate.
00:24:55.000So I want to play a piece of tape here, and I want your response.
00:24:58.000Newt Gingrich calling you a traitor that should be run out of public life.
00:26:35.000Rosendale, you could put Roy, Luna, yourself.
00:26:40.000Which candidate are you going to be more likely to voice support for?
00:26:43.000Well, I will resist naming any particular candidates, but I will say that we're going to be carefully vetting, challenging, testing these candidates.
00:26:54.000You know, it's funny, as you know, back in January, and again, more recently, people were, some of the media members say, oh, you don't have another candidate.
00:27:01.000When anyone who knows how things work in Washington realized that as long as there was the presumption of a particular person to be speaker, that those who have stature or credibility or influence throughout the conference are not going to raise their hand and say, I will challenge the throne and risk whatever consequence to them would come from that.
00:27:18.000And that's not how you advance in the conference system and in the swamp system is by challenging leadership publicly.
00:27:24.000But what we knew as soon as Speaker McCarthy was dethroned, you'd have a number of members of Congress raise their hands and say they're interested, put their hat in the ring.
00:27:31.000In addition to the ones that you've mentioned, you've got Kevin Hearn from Oklahoma and one or two others who are rumored to be candidates and who others have mentioned as candidates.
00:27:40.000I've had several reach out to me, and we're going to be vetting and testing them.
00:27:43.000The good news is, Charlie, we're going to have a contest and a competition, as it should be.
00:27:47.000We'll have that on smaller group levels between now and Tuesday.
00:27:51.000And on Tuesday, we'll have a candidate forum where they have to present themselves at the conference, be held up to scrutiny, and then to earn the trust and the support of 218 members.
00:28:02.000In closing, and I'm sure you're getting this question a lot, Congressman.
00:28:06.000What do you have to say to the criticism that you voted with the Democrat conference yesterday?
00:28:11.000Some people are asking, how would you respond to that?
00:28:14.000Yeah, I don't have any control how the Democrats vote, but what I did was a vote for change in Washington to try to save the country.
00:28:21.000Again, we've got a small window of opportunity to do that.
00:28:23.000If you thought Kevin McCarthy was going to do that, that suddenly he was going to summon the courage and the resolve to fight in a way he never has in his entire career except to be speaker.
00:28:33.000And it was clear after Saturday that this was an abysmal failure of leadership.
00:28:38.000And, you know, to stand against your own Republican Party when it's not being, I'll say, Republican enough or conservative enough or following through on its principles is far different than members of our own party who say they want to collude with the Democrats to pass bills that the Democrats want, pass legislation that the Democrats want, or establish a coalition government with Democrats.
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00:31:14.000The problem is exactly what we have been articulating on this program over the last 11 months, over the last 18 months, since we've started this show, which is this never would have happened.
00:31:27.000Motion to vacate what they're calling chaos.
00:31:29.000Newt Gingrich is calling people traitors if the Republican Party was as conservative as their voters.
00:31:57.000Why is that inability to govern there?
00:32:00.000It's because there are proclamations and promises made to the base of the Republican Party that are never saw through.
00:32:12.000They're never seen through, I should say, ever.
00:32:16.000These proclamations: we're going to defund IRS agents and we're going to secure the border and we're going to do all these different things.
00:32:33.000We just see this completely differently.
00:32:35.000But there was an old political environment that used to exist.
00:32:39.000And this was before shows like Steve Bannon, before Tucker Carlson, before our show, before Jack Pesobic, before all of these different programs.
00:32:48.000The audience is smarter, more informed, more engaged, more aware than any other time.
00:33:00.000And I've been very, very clear about this, okay?
00:33:05.000Kevin hosted our students at the congressional in Congress this summer.
00:33:10.000He was very gracious, our student leaders, and you guys should support that because you want conservative students to see Congress and all that.
00:33:18.000But Kevin disappointed me on some of the debt stuff.
00:33:33.000But you can only play with the base so much.
00:33:37.000You can only play with the base so much without having some sort of a reaction.
00:33:41.000But Kevin, I think, was getting bad advice from Newt Gingrich, which was saying that, oh, just kind of ignore the base.
00:33:49.000What's different is you is that you're reading the appropriations bills.
00:33:55.000Because of the advent of digital social media, because of more radio shows and more podcasts and more things that are available, it is harder to hoodwink the conservative base than ever before.
00:34:13.000And that is something that the old establishment is just learning.
00:34:20.000And with all possible due respect, Speaker Gingrich, you just can't go on Sean Hannity's show and saying we're going to run people out of public life and they're traitors because you're basically attacking their voters when you say that.
00:34:34.000And this is the rise of the new right.
00:34:36.000This is my new book that's coming out, Right Wing Revolution, where I say that when I host this program, it takes hours of work to be ahead of you, the audience.
00:34:49.000I have to know my stuff because you will correct a factoid.
00:34:59.000Not to say that the audience wasn't engaged, but it was nowhere like this.
00:35:04.000And so then when there is disappointment, when there is, we're going to do this and we're not going to do that, we're going to do this, and that falls short of the expectation, the base, the audience, the people pounce on it.
00:35:17.000And the regime and the old Republicans are shocked that there are millions of patriots that care, are informed, engaged, and holding them accountable.
00:35:30.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:32.000Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:35.000Thank you so much for listening, and God bless.
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