The Charlie Kirk Show - Newt Gingrich Exposes the DOJ Trump Conspiracy

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00:00:01.000 Powerful interview with Newt Gingrich.

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00:01:25.000 Joining us now is Speaker Newt Gingrich.

00:01:27.000 Mr. Speaker, thank you for taking the time to join us.

00:01:30.000 Our audience loves hearing from you.

00:01:32.000 Mr. Speaker, I want to pick off.

00:01:34.000 Pick up right where you said something on the Sean Hannity program, where you said that we are entering generations of bitterness.

00:01:41.000 What did you mean by that, Mr. Speaker?

00:01:44.000 Well, we have crossed a threshold where left wingers aren't just going after President Trump.

00:01:52.000 As you know, in the Fulton County case, they've indicted 18 other people, many of them just innocent local citizens.

00:01:59.000 Across the country, there's an attack on conservative justices of the Supreme Court that's a coordinated project.

00:02:06.000 There are efforts to go after People who are totally decent citizens who became alternative electors, something which, by the way, when Al Gore's people did it in Florida in 2000, nobody thought it was inappropriate.

00:02:20.000 It was exactly part of the American system.

00:02:22.000 And yet here you have an innocent local person who, out of good government instincts, agreed to be an alternative elector, and suddenly they're in risk of being bankrupted.

00:02:32.000 Everywhere you turn, the left is using the law as a weapon to try to destroy its opposition and to try to impose itself on the American people.

00:02:41.000 And while it's doing it, It is protecting the corruption of Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden in ways that are astonishing.

00:02:51.000 So I look at all this, and this is the beginning.

00:02:55.000 Henninger just wrote this this morning in the Wall Street Journal that once these things start, you know, if a left wing district attorney can file a suit for no good reason in Fulton County, what's to stop a conservative district attorney in Wyoming from filing a suit against Liz Cheney?

00:03:15.000 For having violated the law with the January 6th committee.

00:03:18.000 And then you're down this road of tremendously vicious, bitter destruction of people by using the law as a weapon.

00:03:25.000 I think this is the most serious, and I said this on Hannity, this is the most serious drift towards a constitutional crisis since the 1850s, which led to the Civil War.

00:03:36.000 I mean, no one should underestimate how deep and how serious this crisis is.

00:03:41.000 To hear you say that, Mr. Speaker, makes me pause.

00:03:46.000 Because you're a teacher of history.

00:03:49.000 You know, you are one of the most accomplished leaders in American politics over the last couple generations.

00:03:56.000 But, Mr. Speaker, sometimes I hear from people and they say, well, this is going to sort itself out.

00:04:01.000 That there is a belief in kind of the inevitable landing of the plane, that cooler heads will prevail.

00:04:07.000 I hear this from some people in the donor class.

00:04:09.000 I'm sure you hear it too, Mr. Speaker.

00:04:12.000 I'm not as bullish on that.

00:04:15.000 I don't believe there's a guarantee that this is going to sort itself out.

00:04:20.000 Is there?

00:04:21.000 Well, look, as a historian, I've written novels about Washington and the Revolutionary War.

00:04:28.000 I've written novels about the Civil War.

00:04:30.000 And my answer is yeah, it may sort itself out.

00:04:32.000 Washington took 2,500 men across the Delaware on Christmas night to help sort out the American Revolution.

00:04:40.000 Lincoln went to Gettysburg and gave his Gettysburg address at the First National Military Cemetery, where our largest battle had been fought with about 100,000 men on each side to sort it out.

00:04:53.000 Things don't just sort themselves out because this is not a PTA meeting.

00:04:59.000 This is not a Rotary Club meeting.

00:05:01.000 This is a struggle for power in the most complex and biggest economy on the planet.

00:05:08.000 Huge amounts of money, $7 trillion a year currently being spent by the federal government.

00:05:13.000 $7 trillion a year.

00:05:15.000 Interest on the debt beginning to rival a trillion dollars a year just to pay interest.

00:05:20.000 We're fighting over real power.

00:05:23.000 And the left came to understand, you know, the left came to understand in 2015 that for the first time in modern times, They had an opponent who was outside the game, an opponent who wasn't committed to playing along, an opponent who potentially could wreck their entire corrupt system.

00:05:42.000 And that's why, starting in 2015, Donald Trump just drove them crazy.

00:05:47.000 And they have gotten sicker ever since.

00:05:49.000 So, this generations of bitterness, I feel that, Mr. Speaker, and our audience does too, where they are creating, they're almost creating the prerequisite for the American right to seek revenge.

00:06:02.000 Against the people that are doing this.

00:06:04.000 I mean, I'll just use one person, for example, Rose Rook, an alternate elector in Michigan.

00:06:08.000 She's 81 years old, Mr. Speaker.

00:06:10.000 She's a patriot.

00:06:11.000 She's one of the sweetest people you could meet.

00:06:13.000 She signed this piece of paper, and now Dana Nessel, the Michigan Attorney General, is not just trying to bankrupt her, put her in jail for the rest of her life because she signed a piece of paper.

00:06:24.000 And so.

00:06:26.000 It's crazy.

00:06:27.000 It is crazy.

00:06:28.000 It's literally crazy.

00:06:30.000 Yeah.

00:06:30.000 And what makes it crazier is they do everything they can to protect Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden.

00:06:36.000 Barack Obama, Hunter Biden.

00:06:38.000 So you find yourself almost like a movie that has two frames. 0.83

00:06:44.000 One frame is destroy the conservatives, and the other frame is protect the corrupt liberals.

00:06:49.000 And they're both going on some.

00:06:51.000 I tell people it's like we're riding two roller coasters.

00:06:53.000 You know, there's the get Trump roller coaster, and there's the protect the corrupt left roller coaster.

00:07:00.000 And we find ourselves on both.

00:07:02.000 Yeah, there's a phrase, anarcho tyranny.

00:07:04.000 It doesn't totally apply to this, but it's similar where it's contradicting realities that are colliding, where They will cover up all the crimes of one political party and they will seek out and concoct crimes of a different political party.

00:07:17.000 So, Mr. Speaker, some people running for the presidency, I don't mean to pick on him, but Mike Pence says we need to trust the justice system.

00:07:24.000 Do you still trust the American legal system?

00:07:28.000 Look, I like Mike Pence a lot.

00:07:29.000 I've known Mike for many, many years.

00:07:32.000 I think that's a delusional statement.

00:07:35.000 I mean, I don't see how you can look.

00:07:37.000 And I'd say this to Mike if he was here.

00:07:39.000 I don't see how you could look.

00:07:42.000 And what's going on with Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, at the degree to which Barack Obama has corrupted both the intelligence community and the Justice Department.

00:07:53.000 And I don't see how you could look at these four indictments of Donald Trump and the indictments of all these innocent citizens who did, I want to repeat, who did exactly what Al Gore's electors did.

00:08:05.000 This is nothing new, there's nothing illegitimate.

00:08:08.000 There was a report on the fact that the Democratic nominee in Georgia for governor said 30 times that Kemp didn't win the election.

00:08:18.000 Now, Stacey Abrams hasn't been indicted, but 30 different occasions she said he didn't win the election.

00:08:24.000 Well, why is it a crime if Trump thought he didn't lose, but it's not a crime if Stacey Abrams thinks she didn't lose?

00:08:31.000 I mean, this is the kind of totally dishonest system which is going to drive people nuts and it's really dangerous for the country.

00:08:41.000 It is driving people nuts.

00:08:42.000 And I'm afraid, Mr. Speaker, if we as the figures in the media, the people that have audiences, aren't clear about the proper course of action, that this is going to get wildly out of control in a way that people will act.

00:08:58.000 You know, I don't want them to act violently.

00:09:00.000 I don't.

00:09:00.000 I'm trying to preach peace as much as possible.

00:09:03.000 But, Mr. Speaker, you know history.

00:09:06.000 It's almost like they're being provoked.

00:09:08.000 And I don't like that.

00:09:09.000 And yeah, well, look, that was the whole purpose of Biden's speech in Philadelphia with the Marines standing there and the lighting that resembled the Empire Strikes Back was to provoke conservatives into doing the kind of things that would justify applying martial law.

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00:11:16.000 Joe Biden speaks in Philadelphia, flanked by two Marines.

00:11:20.000 Are we living through an intentional provocation campaign?

00:11:23.000 Yes, I think there's no question that the Democrats, Biden and the rest of them, are doing everything they can to goad us and to push us.

00:11:31.000 And there's a smugness.

00:11:33.000 And I think it starts with Barack Obama.

00:11:35.000 I was really influenced by Andy McCarthy's book, Ball of Collusion, which he wrote.

00:11:41.000 Back in 2019, where he ties in very directly what Obama did to corrupt the intelligence community, the FBI, the Justice Department.

00:11:51.000 Hillary Clinton took advantage of that.

00:11:53.000 And one of the things I'm urging the House Republicans to do is to subpoena all of the records of the Clinton Foundation, which involves probably 30 or 40 times more money than the Bidens.

00:12:06.000 I mean, the Clintons thought big when they stole, they stole a lot.

00:12:11.000 And so here's poor Joe Biden from Delaware, and he's hanging out at the beach thinking to himself, you know, I mean, if the Justice Department's going to protect me anyway, and if Hillary has pioneered stealing on a grand scale, why not me?

00:12:25.000 And so he says to his poor drug addicted son, you know, you have a real future.

00:12:31.000 You could be a bag man.

00:12:33.000 They probably watched, you know, they probably watched reruns of The Sopranos, thought to themselves, we could do this.

00:12:39.000 And no reasonable person can argue.

00:12:45.000 That money came from Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, Romania, and China because Hunter Biden was really smart.

00:12:56.000 And he himself said and wrote that he was a drug addict for a large part of this period.

00:13:01.000 If his name had been Hunter Smith, he wouldn't have gotten a dime.

00:13:04.000 And it's clear what was happening.

00:13:07.000 His dad was not just taking care of him, his dad was taking care of the whole family.

00:13:11.000 Remember, we already have at least one transaction in which money comes in, about three and a half million, from the widow of the mayor of Moscow.

00:13:18.000 And it gets divided up among the family.

00:13:20.000 I mean, it's sort of like, you know, Joe's taking care of everybody.

00:13:24.000 So his daughter in law gets 35 grand.

00:13:28.000 Somebody else gets an amount.

00:13:30.000 Somebody else, I think they had like nine or 10 people who are all getting, they're all eating off the trough.

00:13:36.000 And then we're supposed to be told, oh, there's not anything really wrong going on.

00:13:40.000 I mean, it's delusional.

00:13:42.000 Meanwhile, you turn around and there happen to be four indictments.

00:13:45.000 And by the way, I think the Atlanta indictment is the most egregious.

00:13:49.000 The most absurd.

00:13:50.000 I mean, the idea that Rudy Giuliani, who as a young deputy U.S. attorney and then as a young district attorney in New York City for the federal government, he used the RICO Acts.

00:14:03.000 He understood the RICO Acts.

00:14:04.000 He helped write the RICO Acts.

00:14:07.000 The idea that this thing, which was specifically designed for the mafia and for drug dealers, is now being used to go after the former mayor of New York.

00:14:16.000 It's just, you couldn't write a novel in which these things happen. 1.00

00:14:20.000 And by the way, these guys are so arrogant that they're stupid. 0.99

00:14:24.000 So, Weiss, who is a terrible lawyer, who has pathetically mishandled the Hunter Biden case, suddenly gets promoted to be the special investigator, elevated, despite everything he's done wrong already. 1.00

00:14:41.000 The reaction, he's elevated on Friday.

00:14:44.000 The reaction is so bad on Friday that I am told this is hearsay, but I am told by a reliable source that Friday evening somebody from Washington called the district attorney in Atlanta and said, You have to indict on Monday.

00:14:59.000 We have to cover up all of the mistakes we just made with Weiss.

00:15:03.000 And she said, apparently, my jurors aren't coming back till Tuesday.

00:15:07.000 And they said, You didn't hear me.

00:15:09.000 You have to indict on Monday.

00:15:11.000 And she said, Well, they're not going to get here before noon.

00:15:14.000 They said, It doesn't matter.

00:15:15.000 She said, This means it's going to be eight or nine or 10 o'clock at night.

00:15:18.000 They said, It doesn't matter.

00:15:20.000 We need the news media shifting.

00:15:22.000 Who made that phone call?

00:15:25.000 We don't know.

00:15:26.000 And I'm telling you up front, this is hearsay, but it's from a person who has remarkably good sources.

00:15:31.000 I totally believe it, though, because that would explain.

00:15:32.000 Explain why they leaked and they messed up on the clerk document, why she was exhausted, and why they had the 11 p.m. press conference, Mr. Speaker.

00:15:41.000 Well, can you imagine?

00:15:43.000 Hannity conned me into coming out and sitting in the truck with him for two hours, which is ridiculous.

00:15:51.000 But anyhow, because we're trying to figure out what's going on.

00:15:54.000 And so I'm out there with him, and it suddenly hit me.

00:16:00.000 She'd already released the charges that the jury was going to vote on before the jury voted on them.

00:16:06.000 So, if you had any doubt about how totally rigged this was, you knew that this is entirely a left wing Democratic district attorney who has manipulated the grand jury.

00:16:17.000 As you know, there's the old saying that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich if that's what the prosecutor wants.

00:16:22.000 Well, in her case, they were so clumsy.

00:16:25.000 And this followed how clumsy they were with Weiss on Friday.

00:16:28.000 So, on Monday, they're equally clumsy.

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00:17:20.000 This is super important.

00:17:21.000 We're here with Speaker Gingrich.

00:17:23.000 So here I am, Mr. Speaker, watching MSNBC, and it's 9 p.m., and it's 10 p.m., and it's 11 p.m.

00:17:30.000 And my wife, and we're on the West Coast, so we have a little bit of a time advantage.

00:17:34.000 And so my wife says, Why are they doing this at night?

00:17:37.000 She's like, This is not even good for ratings.

00:17:39.000 And I said, There's something more to the story here.

00:17:41.000 And, Mr. Speaker, what you're building out is that somebody from D.C. called Fulton County and said, get it done.

00:17:48.000 So just finish that thought, Mr. Speaker.

00:17:50.000 Well, I think what people have to understand is none of this stuff is happening by accident.

00:17:55.000 You've had a consistent, steady manipulation of the law at every level in order to tie it into the news media. 0.84

00:18:04.000 So they were getting beaten up on Friday badly because the appointment of Weiss as a special counsel was so stupid, so indefensible, that even places like the New York Times are beginning to break a little bit and say, You know, I don't know that I can defend this. 0.92

00:18:17.000 And so they needed a new story. 0.96

00:18:19.000 And their new story was going to be Fulton County.

00:18:21.000 But remember this they release the charges before the jury votes.

00:18:29.000 Now, that should tell everybody how totally rigged this is.

00:18:31.000 And the charges are absurd. 0.95

00:18:33.000 It's 44 pages of baloney.

00:18:36.000 I mean, a Fulton County district attorney is making allegations about other states outside her jurisdiction.

00:18:43.000 It makes no sense at all.

00:18:45.000 But nothing about this makes sense.

00:18:46.000 I mean, one of Jack Smith's major charges in D.C. is an 1870 Ku Klux Klan law.

00:18:54.000 Now, I mean, do you realize how nuts you have to be to charge a former president of the United States under an 1870 law designed to break the Ku Klux Klan in South Carolina?

00:19:06.000 And this stuff goes on all the time, and there is no law.

00:19:08.000 I keep, when I'm on these shows with lawyers, I keep saying to them, why do you pretend we're dealing with the law?

00:19:14.000 We are dealing with power.

00:19:16.000 And those who have power are willing to use it ruthlessly and willing to break every rule if that will destroy Trump and if it will help them protect their own.

00:19:25.000 You know, I got in this debate recently.

00:19:27.000 It was a spirited conversation with a former DOJ guy.

00:19:29.000 He spent his whole life admirably practicing law, Mr. Speaker.

00:19:33.000 And he said, no, no, no, the rule of law will prevail.

00:19:35.000 He said, and I said, respectfully, that country doesn't exist anymore.

00:19:40.000 It used to.

00:19:41.000 You had a great career and you swore an oath to a constitution.

00:19:45.000 But, Mr. Speaker, I find this with some of the people that go on cable TV and they say, oh, well, you know, here's the strengths of the indictment and the weakness.

00:19:53.000 I said, it's all a fraud.

00:19:55.000 You're giving it too much legitimacy, Mr. Speaker.

00:19:58.000 Yeah, actually, I'm writing a book right now on the four indictments.

00:20:02.000 Because when you take them together and then you put on the other side Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, you realize how deeply corrupt this country has become and how they're basically prepared to destroy the law in order to destroy Donald Trump.

00:20:20.000 I mean, that's what it comes down to.

00:20:21.000 They are willing to destroy the law.

00:20:23.000 The Constitution.

00:20:24.000 The tradition of the Constitution.

00:20:26.000 They're willing to throw out everything post 1787 and 1791 to destroy a single presidential candidate.

00:20:33.000 Right.

00:20:34.000 And we do have the one thing that's absolutely vital.

00:20:37.000 We still have an election.

00:20:39.000 I've been talking with various people.

00:20:42.000 I believe this will be the highest turnout election in American history.

00:20:46.000 And I think that what they're doing is alienating the entire middle, and that Donald Trump will be dramatically stronger than he was in either 16 or 20, because there are a lot of people who may not be for Trump, but they're for the Constitution.

00:21:00.000 They're for the rule of law.

00:21:02.000 You know, I think that's the only argument, because, you know, I hear from.

00:21:08.000 Moderate Republicans, I hate Trump, I hate Trump.

00:21:10.000 But it framed of, do you think he's being treated poorly?

00:21:13.000 Oh, yes.

00:21:14.000 Anybody on the center right, anybody in the middle, they can acknowledge that this is a, you could use whatever phrase you want, Rubicon, a precedent that we never said.

00:21:22.000 I do want to ask you, Mr. Speaker, you are a master historian.

00:21:26.000 In American history, have we ever seen the government use the law against a political dissident in so many different places, different jurisdictions, in lockstep harmony?

00:21:40.000 With what we're living through right now.

00:21:41.000 We've ever seen anything close to this.

00:21:43.000 Yeah, there was a very brief period in the 1790s when the Federalists passed the Alien and Sedition Acts and were trying to lock up Jefferson's supporters.

00:21:53.000 It collapsed totally.

00:21:54.000 People repudiated it.

00:21:56.000 It was part of what destroyed the Federalist Party.

00:21:59.000 About a year and a half, two year period there.

00:22:01.000 This was, remember, there's a French Revolution going on.

00:22:03.000 Yes.

00:22:04.000 There are all sorts of things happening.

00:22:06.000 And then at the end of World War I, the Wilson administration went crazy.

00:22:11.000 And you had what was called the Red Scare, and they locked up people.

00:22:13.000 They did put a former socialist candidate for president in jail for what he had said because he was anti war, and they locked him up.

00:22:24.000 That's the only other time I can think of where you've had this kind of effort.

00:22:27.000 And that collapsed.

00:22:28.000 And by the way, in both of those cases, the lesson the American people took was that they would not tolerate the rule of law being broken by politicians in their political fights.

00:22:40.000 And in both cases, the lawbreakers.

00:22:42.000 We were severely punished electorally.

00:22:44.000 In 1800, Jefferson becomes president, defeating Adams, who had passed the Alien and Sedition Act.

00:22:51.000 And in 1920, the Republicans win a gigantic landslide, repudiating Wilson's approach.

00:22:56.000 So, Mr. Speaker, this is the debate then on the right.

00:22:58.000 And I'll tell you where I land, which is Is it time to start indicting them?

00:23:04.000 I say yes.

00:23:05.000 I say that we need to start to make some of these Democrats be investigated.

00:23:09.000 However, you're also saying wait, hold on.

00:23:11.000 We have an election, which is the ultimate referendum on this.

00:23:15.000 And I'm not even suggesting we should push the boundaries of the interpretation of the law.

00:23:20.000 But, Mr. Speaker, I got to be honest, it bothers me at a fundamental level when I watch MSNBC and they're gleeful.

00:23:25.000 They're joyful when they see these indictments.

00:23:27.000 They feel as if they are the untouchable.

00:23:30.000 So, how should we think about that?

00:23:33.000 Well, first of all, I think Speaker McCarthy is exactly right.

00:23:36.000 We need to expand into an impeachment inquiry.

00:23:41.000 And I'll explain why.

00:23:42.000 An impeachment inquiry gives the House an ability to ask a lot more questions of a lot more people and issue a lot more subpoenas.

00:23:51.000 I think phase one of this, this is one of the lessons of what happened to Nixon and what did not happen, for example, with either Trump.

00:23:59.000 Or with Bill Clinton.

00:24:01.000 I mean, you can impeach in the House if you have a majority, but it doesn't go anywhere in the Senate.

00:24:06.000 And in both cases, they were, in a sense, vindicated because the Senate wouldn't convict them.

00:24:12.000 I think that what you want to do first and what happened to Nixon, it took about a year and a half, but gradually you want to draw all this out.

00:24:18.000 That's why I'm absolutely adamant that the Republicans in the House have to issue subpoenas for all the financial records of the Clinton Foundation.

00:24:29.000 Which will begin to move us in the right direction.

00:24:31.000 Frankly, they should issue subpoenas for the 51 intelligence officials who signed a totally false letter about Hunter Biden's laptop.

00:24:41.000 I mean, I think you're right, but I think our interest should be calmly and methodically.

00:24:47.000 No, I don't apply the law.

00:24:49.000 I'm not. 1.00

00:24:50.000 No, and I appreciate that because I'm not a calm and methodical guy because I'm sick of seeing 81 year olds. 1.00

00:24:55.000 I'm just being honest. 1.00

00:24:56.000 And you need all parts of a party, right?

00:24:58.000 You need the activist energy.

00:25:00.000 And so, but then let's focus on the election, which, Mr. Speaker, I do believe that this election is one of the bigger than candidate elections we've ever seen.

00:25:11.000 We don't see that every.

00:25:13.000 If I were to, 2020 was a mess.

00:25:16.000 One of the brilliant kind of, let's just say, designs that the Democrats did is they turned it into almost an election of a referendum, a vote of no confidence, if you will, right?

00:25:26.000 Bigger than Trump.

00:25:27.000 Are you tired of it?

00:25:28.000 It's almost, are you exhausted?

00:25:29.000 Vote for Biden.

00:25:30.000 Are you exhausted?

00:25:31.000 Vote for Biden.

00:25:32.000 I don't think they're going to be able to pull that off.

00:25:34.000 Now, as far as the mail in ballots, I do see Republicans.

00:25:37.000 Including our advocacy organization, Turning Point Action, getting involved in early voting.

00:25:42.000 And I think that is going to increase our chances and actually embracing voting month.

00:25:47.000 We also have no labels that might be on the ballot in Cornell West, which could make things unpredictable and very interesting.

00:25:54.000 But, Mr. Speaker, you think that this will be the most turnout we've ever seen.

00:25:58.000 Traditionally, the kind of prevailing orthodoxy is that would help Democrats.

00:26:03.000 Why do you think that would actually help Donald Trump?

00:26:06.000 Well, it helps Trump because starting in 2016, he switched the Roosevelt coalition.

00:26:12.000 If you're a high school graduate, you're probably for Trump.

00:26:15.000 If you're an Ivy League PhD, you're probably for Biden.

00:26:19.000 That is an exact reversal of a half century of American politics.

00:26:24.000 And every evidence we have is that Trump is getting stronger.

00:26:28.000 And the more they persecute him, they're turning him from a political figure into a national historic figure.

00:26:35.000 I mean, he's much more like Alexander Solzhenitsyn or Nelson Mandela.

00:26:39.000 He's a political leader being persecuted by the establishment.

00:26:43.000 Yes.

00:26:44.000 That changes everything.

00:26:45.000 Because what I say to Republicans who don't like Trump is simple you're going to have a choice.

00:26:50.000 You can vote to sustain the corruption, or you can vote to break the corruption.

00:26:55.000 There's no third choice.

00:26:57.000 Now, if you're willing to give up America and have it become a totally corrupt third world banana republic, vote for Biden.

00:27:05.000 Or if you really believe that America's future is at stake, then whether you like Trump or not, he is the only alternative to the corruption.

00:27:14.000 And I think that's what this is going to come down to.

00:27:17.000 I think that's so smart.

00:27:18.000 I'm going to tell President Trump he has to write the MAGA archipelago.

00:27:21.000 That's a great line.

00:27:26.000 That is a great line.

00:27:27.000 Thank you.

00:27:28.000 You feel free to use it.

00:27:30.000 So, you said something also fascinating, Mr. Speaker.

00:27:34.000 You said that even if Trump is actually serving prison time, it should not matter.

00:27:40.000 This is another objection I get from some Republican donor types who I think really mean well.

00:27:45.000 I want to say they don't necessarily have the spine I wish they would have, but they want to see America saved.

00:27:49.000 They're not trying to actively destroy the country, but they're terrified, Mr. Speaker.

00:27:52.000 They say he's going to be in jail.

00:27:54.000 We must seek other options.

00:27:56.000 How should we think about that?

00:27:57.000 Well, first of all, there aren't other options.

00:27:59.000 He's going to be the nominee by March 6th, right after the California primary.

00:28:03.000 And that's just a fact.

00:28:05.000 Second, the country will be in a rage.

00:28:08.000 My prediction is if they forget jail, if they actually get him in a court, you're going to have 15 or 20 million surrogates who volunteer to be local Trumps to go campaign for him because he can't campaign.

00:28:20.000 I mean, these people have created a nightmare for themselves.

00:28:24.000 They have invented a figure bigger than Donald Trump, and that's what Donald Trump has grown into.

00:28:30.000 He didn't do it.

00:28:30.000 They did it.

00:28:31.000 And he's now, I think, one of the great historic figures in American life.

00:28:36.000 That's for certain.

00:28:37.000 And I just want to reiterate you're right.

00:28:39.000 They are going to create a rage and a nightmare.

00:28:40.000 They're going to do everything they can to try to make MAGA seem like domestic violent extremists.

00:28:45.000 This is part of their playbook.

00:28:47.000 That's right.

00:28:47.000 You can't take the bait.

00:28:48.000 You have to peacefully advocate.

00:28:51.000 But I pray you're right, Mr. Speaker.

00:28:53.000 If this country still has the guts I think it does, if this country still has the gusto that I think it does, if this country still has the decency that I think it does, I refuse.

00:29:04.000 Yeah, please finish my thing.

00:29:05.000 A lot of people, starting with the British Empire, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, have all thought that they would bury us, and we haven't been buried.

00:29:17.000 And we now have a group of corrupt left wingers who think they can lie to us, manipulate us, distort us, and that we'll somehow roll over and let them dominate.

00:29:26.000 They're in for an enormous shock.

00:29:29.000 Boy, I pray you're right.

00:29:30.000 So, Mr. Speaker, I also believe this will be the most technical election in American history, where the boring stuff matters more than ever before.

00:29:36.000 Early voting, voter registration.

00:29:39.000 You have been a leader on this, speaking out.

00:29:42.000 Please elaborate for our audience.

00:29:45.000 Look, the times have changed, and the Republican Party has to change with it, and the consultant class has to change.

00:29:51.000 If you have, as we did in Pennsylvania, 60% of the vote cast before October 1, it makes no sense to hoard all your money for advertising in October because you already lost the chance to affect 60% of the people.

00:30:04.000 Glenn Youngkin did a great job of turnout, and by the way, As one of the great experiments this fall in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin's focused on trying to win Senate and House seats in the Virginia legislature.

00:30:15.000 And he's doing all the right things early voting, canvassing people, getting them to turn out.

00:30:22.000 And I just got a great briefing from the Republican National Committee on their Bank the Vote project.

00:30:27.000 We are learning, we are adjusting.

00:30:30.000 In a funny way, the elections of 2020 and 22 may have been a wake up call, and we may be a dramatically better and more effective party.

00:30:40.000 And when we go into 24, you know, there's, I'm not a country music fan, but there is a country music song that says, Thank God for unanswered prayers.

00:30:48.000 I think it's Garth Brooks, which is, he was actually talking about a high school sweetheart that he didn't get a chance to marry.

00:30:54.000 And then he met her 15 years later at his high school reunion.

00:30:59.000 And in some ways, maybe we have to say, Thank God for the unanswered prayer that we didn't have a red wave in the midterms, Mr. Speaker.

00:31:07.000 I think that's right.

00:31:08.000 That would have told us we're okay.

00:31:09.000 What it did is it was like cold water.

00:31:11.000 We woke up and said, okay, we have to roll our sleeves up.

00:31:14.000 And then, frankly, the Democrats, by being so ruthless, so illegal, so obvious, and frankly, increasingly sloppy, have now taught the country lessons that the country didn't want to learn, didn't want to believe was true.

00:31:29.000 And now you have no choice but to face it.

00:31:30.000 And I think this will be a remarkable turning point.

00:31:34.000 And look, I have enormous faith in the American people.

00:31:37.000 We have a national conversation, we talk to each other at every level.

00:31:41.000 And ultimately, over the last 250 years, We have been pretty darn good at learning and at coming back.

00:31:48.000 And, you know, Cliff and I are doing a new series called Journey to America, where we're interviewing first generation immigrants and why they came here.

00:31:55.000 Henry Kissinger is one of them.

00:31:57.000 And what they've done as legal immigrants to improve America.

00:32:00.000 They all come here because this is an amazing country.

00:32:03.000 They don't all rush off to Russia or China or Venezuela or Cuba.

00:32:08.000 They come here.

00:32:09.000 And I think that amazing country will once again renew itself, revitalize itself, and purge itself.

00:32:16.000 Of those who are corrupt and destructive.

00:32:18.000 Final question then, Mr. Speaker.

00:32:19.000 What remains your biggest concern then?

00:32:21.000 The biggest impediment for the right for victory ahead of November of 2024?

00:32:25.000 Something we can isolate, focus on, and fix?

00:32:29.000 Learn to focus on attracting every American of every background Democrat, Republican, Independent, black, white, yellow, brown I don't care.

00:32:39.000 Every American who shares our common commitment to the Constitution and the rule of law and get all of them together is a huge, huge.

00:32:47.000 Popular voting army and not get off on Republican sectarian politics of are you really pure enough or why weren't you here 12 years ago?

00:32:55.000 Mr. Speaker, thank you so much for your time.

00:32:58.000 As always, wonderful wisdom.

00:33:00.000 Please come back again soon.

00:33:01.000 Thanks so much.

00:33:02.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:03.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charleykirk.com.

00:33:06.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:14.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charleykirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - August 18, 2023

Newt Gingrich Exposes the DOJ Trump Conspiracy

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