00:00:01.000Powerful interview with Newt Gingrich.
00:00:04.000We talk about the generation of bitterness that is coming, how Donald Trump can win the presidency, the Democrats' attempt to create a one party state, and more.
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00:01:34.000Pick up right where you said something on the Sean Hannity program, where you said that we are entering generations of bitterness.
00:01:41.000What did you mean by that, Mr. Speaker?
00:01:44.000Well, we have crossed a threshold where left wingers aren't just going after President Trump.
00:01:52.000As you know, in the Fulton County case, they've indicted 18 other people, many of them just innocent local citizens.
00:01:59.000Across the country, there's an attack on conservative justices of the Supreme Court that's a coordinated project.
00:02:06.000There are efforts to go after People who are totally decent citizens who became alternative electors, something which, by the way, when Al Gore's people did it in Florida in 2000, nobody thought it was inappropriate.
00:02:20.000It was exactly part of the American system.
00:02:22.000And yet here you have an innocent local person who, out of good government instincts, agreed to be an alternative elector, and suddenly they're in risk of being bankrupted.
00:02:32.000Everywhere you turn, the left is using the law as a weapon to try to destroy its opposition and to try to impose itself on the American people.
00:02:41.000And while it's doing it, It is protecting the corruption of Obama, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden in ways that are astonishing.
00:02:51.000So I look at all this, and this is the beginning.
00:02:55.000Henninger just wrote this this morning in the Wall Street Journal that once these things start, you know, if a left wing district attorney can file a suit for no good reason in Fulton County, what's to stop a conservative district attorney in Wyoming from filing a suit against Liz Cheney?
00:03:15.000For having violated the law with the January 6th committee.
00:03:18.000And then you're down this road of tremendously vicious, bitter destruction of people by using the law as a weapon.
00:03:25.000I think this is the most serious, and I said this on Hannity, this is the most serious drift towards a constitutional crisis since the 1850s, which led to the Civil War.
00:03:36.000I mean, no one should underestimate how deep and how serious this crisis is.
00:03:41.000To hear you say that, Mr. Speaker, makes me pause.
00:04:21.000Well, look, as a historian, I've written novels about Washington and the Revolutionary War.
00:04:28.000I've written novels about the Civil War.
00:04:30.000And my answer is yeah, it may sort itself out.
00:04:32.000Washington took 2,500 men across the Delaware on Christmas night to help sort out the American Revolution.
00:04:40.000Lincoln went to Gettysburg and gave his Gettysburg address at the First National Military Cemetery, where our largest battle had been fought with about 100,000 men on each side to sort it out.
00:04:53.000Things don't just sort themselves out because this is not a PTA meeting.
00:05:23.000And the left came to understand, you know, the left came to understand in 2015 that for the first time in modern times, They had an opponent who was outside the game, an opponent who wasn't committed to playing along, an opponent who potentially could wreck their entire corrupt system.
00:05:42.000And that's why, starting in 2015, Donald Trump just drove them crazy.
00:05:47.000And they have gotten sicker ever since.
00:05:49.000So, this generations of bitterness, I feel that, Mr. Speaker, and our audience does too, where they are creating, they're almost creating the prerequisite for the American right to seek revenge.
00:06:02.000Against the people that are doing this.
00:06:04.000I mean, I'll just use one person, for example, Rose Rook, an alternate elector in Michigan.
00:06:11.000She's one of the sweetest people you could meet.
00:06:13.000She signed this piece of paper, and now Dana Nessel, the Michigan Attorney General, is not just trying to bankrupt her, put her in jail for the rest of her life because she signed a piece of paper.
00:07:02.000Yeah, there's a phrase, anarcho tyranny.
00:07:04.000It doesn't totally apply to this, but it's similar where it's contradicting realities that are colliding, where They will cover up all the crimes of one political party and they will seek out and concoct crimes of a different political party.
00:07:17.000So, Mr. Speaker, some people running for the presidency, I don't mean to pick on him, but Mike Pence says we need to trust the justice system.
00:07:24.000Do you still trust the American legal system?
00:07:42.000And what's going on with Hunter Biden, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, at the degree to which Barack Obama has corrupted both the intelligence community and the Justice Department.
00:07:53.000And I don't see how you could look at these four indictments of Donald Trump and the indictments of all these innocent citizens who did, I want to repeat, who did exactly what Al Gore's electors did.
00:08:05.000This is nothing new, there's nothing illegitimate.
00:08:08.000There was a report on the fact that the Democratic nominee in Georgia for governor said 30 times that Kemp didn't win the election.
00:08:18.000Now, Stacey Abrams hasn't been indicted, but 30 different occasions she said he didn't win the election.
00:08:24.000Well, why is it a crime if Trump thought he didn't lose, but it's not a crime if Stacey Abrams thinks she didn't lose?
00:08:31.000I mean, this is the kind of totally dishonest system which is going to drive people nuts and it's really dangerous for the country.
00:08:42.000And I'm afraid, Mr. Speaker, if we as the figures in the media, the people that have audiences, aren't clear about the proper course of action, that this is going to get wildly out of control in a way that people will act.
00:08:58.000You know, I don't want them to act violently.
00:09:09.000And yeah, well, look, that was the whole purpose of Biden's speech in Philadelphia with the Marines standing there and the lighting that resembled the Empire Strikes Back was to provoke conservatives into doing the kind of things that would justify applying martial law.
00:11:33.000And I think it starts with Barack Obama.
00:11:35.000I was really influenced by Andy McCarthy's book, Ball of Collusion, which he wrote.
00:11:41.000Back in 2019, where he ties in very directly what Obama did to corrupt the intelligence community, the FBI, the Justice Department.
00:11:51.000Hillary Clinton took advantage of that.
00:11:53.000And one of the things I'm urging the House Republicans to do is to subpoena all of the records of the Clinton Foundation, which involves probably 30 or 40 times more money than the Bidens.
00:12:06.000I mean, the Clintons thought big when they stole, they stole a lot.
00:12:11.000And so here's poor Joe Biden from Delaware, and he's hanging out at the beach thinking to himself, you know, I mean, if the Justice Department's going to protect me anyway, and if Hillary has pioneered stealing on a grand scale, why not me?
00:12:25.000And so he says to his poor drug addicted son, you know, you have a real future.
00:13:07.000His dad was not just taking care of him, his dad was taking care of the whole family.
00:13:11.000Remember, we already have at least one transaction in which money comes in, about three and a half million, from the widow of the mayor of Moscow.
00:13:18.000And it gets divided up among the family.
00:13:20.000I mean, it's sort of like, you know, Joe's taking care of everybody.
00:13:50.000I mean, the idea that Rudy Giuliani, who as a young deputy U.S. attorney and then as a young district attorney in New York City for the federal government, he used the RICO Acts.
00:14:07.000The idea that this thing, which was specifically designed for the mafia and for drug dealers, is now being used to go after the former mayor of New York.
00:14:16.000It's just, you couldn't write a novel in which these things happen.
00:14:20.000And by the way, these guys are so arrogant that they're stupid.
00:14:24.000So, Weiss, who is a terrible lawyer, who has pathetically mishandled the Hunter Biden case, suddenly gets promoted to be the special investigator, elevated, despite everything he's done wrong already.
00:14:41.000The reaction, he's elevated on Friday.
00:14:44.000The reaction is so bad on Friday that I am told this is hearsay, but I am told by a reliable source that Friday evening somebody from Washington called the district attorney in Atlanta and said, You have to indict on Monday.
00:14:59.000We have to cover up all of the mistakes we just made with Weiss.
00:15:03.000And she said, apparently, my jurors aren't coming back till Tuesday.
00:15:26.000And I'm telling you up front, this is hearsay, but it's from a person who has remarkably good sources.
00:15:31.000I totally believe it, though, because that would explain.
00:15:32.000Explain why they leaked and they messed up on the clerk document, why she was exhausted, and why they had the 11 p.m. press conference, Mr. Speaker.
00:15:43.000Hannity conned me into coming out and sitting in the truck with him for two hours, which is ridiculous.
00:15:51.000But anyhow, because we're trying to figure out what's going on.
00:15:54.000And so I'm out there with him, and it suddenly hit me.
00:16:00.000She'd already released the charges that the jury was going to vote on before the jury voted on them.
00:16:06.000So, if you had any doubt about how totally rigged this was, you knew that this is entirely a left wing Democratic district attorney who has manipulated the grand jury.
00:16:17.000As you know, there's the old saying that a grand jury can indict a ham sandwich if that's what the prosecutor wants.
00:16:22.000Well, in her case, they were so clumsy.
00:16:25.000And this followed how clumsy they were with Weiss on Friday.
00:16:28.000So, on Monday, they're equally clumsy.
00:17:23.000So here I am, Mr. Speaker, watching MSNBC, and it's 9 p.m., and it's 10 p.m., and it's 11 p.m.
00:17:30.000And my wife, and we're on the West Coast, so we have a little bit of a time advantage.
00:17:34.000And so my wife says, Why are they doing this at night?
00:17:37.000She's like, This is not even good for ratings.
00:17:39.000And I said, There's something more to the story here.
00:17:41.000And, Mr. Speaker, what you're building out is that somebody from D.C. called Fulton County and said, get it done.
00:17:48.000So just finish that thought, Mr. Speaker.
00:17:50.000Well, I think what people have to understand is none of this stuff is happening by accident.
00:17:55.000You've had a consistent, steady manipulation of the law at every level in order to tie it into the news media.
00:18:04.000So they were getting beaten up on Friday badly because the appointment of Weiss as a special counsel was so stupid, so indefensible, that even places like the New York Times are beginning to break a little bit and say, You know, I don't know that I can defend this.
00:18:46.000I mean, one of Jack Smith's major charges in D.C. is an 1870 Ku Klux Klan law.
00:18:54.000Now, I mean, do you realize how nuts you have to be to charge a former president of the United States under an 1870 law designed to break the Ku Klux Klan in South Carolina?
00:19:06.000And this stuff goes on all the time, and there is no law.
00:19:08.000I keep, when I'm on these shows with lawyers, I keep saying to them, why do you pretend we're dealing with the law?
00:19:16.000And those who have power are willing to use it ruthlessly and willing to break every rule if that will destroy Trump and if it will help them protect their own.
00:19:25.000You know, I got in this debate recently.
00:19:27.000It was a spirited conversation with a former DOJ guy.
00:19:29.000He spent his whole life admirably practicing law, Mr. Speaker.
00:19:33.000And he said, no, no, no, the rule of law will prevail.
00:19:35.000He said, and I said, respectfully, that country doesn't exist anymore.
00:19:41.000You had a great career and you swore an oath to a constitution.
00:19:45.000But, Mr. Speaker, I find this with some of the people that go on cable TV and they say, oh, well, you know, here's the strengths of the indictment and the weakness.
00:19:55.000You're giving it too much legitimacy, Mr. Speaker.
00:19:58.000Yeah, actually, I'm writing a book right now on the four indictments.
00:20:02.000Because when you take them together and then you put on the other side Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama, and Joe Biden and Hunter Biden, you realize how deeply corrupt this country has become and how they're basically prepared to destroy the law in order to destroy Donald Trump.
00:20:39.000I've been talking with various people.
00:20:42.000I believe this will be the highest turnout election in American history.
00:20:46.000And I think that what they're doing is alienating the entire middle, and that Donald Trump will be dramatically stronger than he was in either 16 or 20, because there are a lot of people who may not be for Trump, but they're for the Constitution.
00:21:14.000Anybody on the center right, anybody in the middle, they can acknowledge that this is a, you could use whatever phrase you want, Rubicon, a precedent that we never said.
00:21:22.000I do want to ask you, Mr. Speaker, you are a master historian.
00:21:26.000In American history, have we ever seen the government use the law against a political dissident in so many different places, different jurisdictions, in lockstep harmony?
00:21:40.000With what we're living through right now.
00:21:41.000We've ever seen anything close to this.
00:21:43.000Yeah, there was a very brief period in the 1790s when the Federalists passed the Alien and Sedition Acts and were trying to lock up Jefferson's supporters.
00:22:28.000And by the way, in both of those cases, the lesson the American people took was that they would not tolerate the rule of law being broken by politicians in their political fights.
00:24:01.000I mean, you can impeach in the House if you have a majority, but it doesn't go anywhere in the Senate.
00:24:06.000And in both cases, they were, in a sense, vindicated because the Senate wouldn't convict them.
00:24:12.000I think that what you want to do first and what happened to Nixon, it took about a year and a half, but gradually you want to draw all this out.
00:24:18.000That's why I'm absolutely adamant that the Republicans in the House have to issue subpoenas for all the financial records of the Clinton Foundation.
00:24:29.000Which will begin to move us in the right direction.
00:24:31.000Frankly, they should issue subpoenas for the 51 intelligence officials who signed a totally false letter about Hunter Biden's laptop.
00:24:41.000I mean, I think you're right, but I think our interest should be calmly and methodically.
00:25:00.000And so, but then let's focus on the election, which, Mr. Speaker, I do believe that this election is one of the bigger than candidate elections we've ever seen.
00:25:16.000One of the brilliant kind of, let's just say, designs that the Democrats did is they turned it into almost an election of a referendum, a vote of no confidence, if you will, right?
00:26:57.000Now, if you're willing to give up America and have it become a totally corrupt third world banana republic, vote for Biden.
00:27:05.000Or if you really believe that America's future is at stake, then whether you like Trump or not, he is the only alternative to the corruption.
00:27:14.000And I think that's what this is going to come down to.
00:28:05.000Second, the country will be in a rage.
00:28:08.000My prediction is if they forget jail, if they actually get him in a court, you're going to have 15 or 20 million surrogates who volunteer to be local Trumps to go campaign for him because he can't campaign.
00:28:20.000I mean, these people have created a nightmare for themselves.
00:28:24.000They have invented a figure bigger than Donald Trump, and that's what Donald Trump has grown into.
00:28:53.000If this country still has the guts I think it does, if this country still has the gusto that I think it does, if this country still has the decency that I think it does, I refuse.
00:29:05.000A lot of people, starting with the British Empire, Nazi Germany, Soviet Russia, have all thought that they would bury us, and we haven't been buried.
00:29:17.000And we now have a group of corrupt left wingers who think they can lie to us, manipulate us, distort us, and that we'll somehow roll over and let them dominate.
00:29:30.000So, Mr. Speaker, I also believe this will be the most technical election in American history, where the boring stuff matters more than ever before.
00:29:45.000Look, the times have changed, and the Republican Party has to change with it, and the consultant class has to change.
00:29:51.000If you have, as we did in Pennsylvania, 60% of the vote cast before October 1, it makes no sense to hoard all your money for advertising in October because you already lost the chance to affect 60% of the people.
00:30:04.000Glenn Youngkin did a great job of turnout, and by the way, As one of the great experiments this fall in Virginia, Glenn Youngkin's focused on trying to win Senate and House seats in the Virginia legislature.
00:30:15.000And he's doing all the right things early voting, canvassing people, getting them to turn out.
00:30:22.000And I just got a great briefing from the Republican National Committee on their Bank the Vote project.
00:30:30.000In a funny way, the elections of 2020 and 22 may have been a wake up call, and we may be a dramatically better and more effective party.
00:30:40.000And when we go into 24, you know, there's, I'm not a country music fan, but there is a country music song that says, Thank God for unanswered prayers.
00:30:48.000I think it's Garth Brooks, which is, he was actually talking about a high school sweetheart that he didn't get a chance to marry.
00:30:54.000And then he met her 15 years later at his high school reunion.
00:30:59.000And in some ways, maybe we have to say, Thank God for the unanswered prayer that we didn't have a red wave in the midterms, Mr. Speaker.
00:31:09.000What it did is it was like cold water.
00:31:11.000We woke up and said, okay, we have to roll our sleeves up.
00:31:14.000And then, frankly, the Democrats, by being so ruthless, so illegal, so obvious, and frankly, increasingly sloppy, have now taught the country lessons that the country didn't want to learn, didn't want to believe was true.
00:31:29.000And now you have no choice but to face it.
00:31:30.000And I think this will be a remarkable turning point.
00:31:34.000And look, I have enormous faith in the American people.
00:31:37.000We have a national conversation, we talk to each other at every level.
00:31:41.000And ultimately, over the last 250 years, We have been pretty darn good at learning and at coming back.
00:31:48.000And, you know, Cliff and I are doing a new series called Journey to America, where we're interviewing first generation immigrants and why they came here.
00:32:19.000What remains your biggest concern then?
00:32:21.000The biggest impediment for the right for victory ahead of November of 2024?
00:32:25.000Something we can isolate, focus on, and fix?
00:32:29.000Learn to focus on attracting every American of every background Democrat, Republican, Independent, black, white, yellow, brown I don't care.
00:32:39.000Every American who shares our common commitment to the Constitution and the rule of law and get all of them together is a huge, huge.
00:32:47.000Popular voting army and not get off on Republican sectarian politics of are you really pure enough or why weren't you here 12 years ago?
00:32:55.000Mr. Speaker, thank you so much for your time.