The Charlie Kirk Show - November 15, 2023


Nikki Haley Wants to Know YOUR Name


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Steve Bannon joins us to talk about the disappointing continuing resolution update, and then we talk about Nikki Haley wanting to get your name and information if you are anonymous online. We also discuss why privacy is a necessary prerequisite to a free society, and why the Federalist Papers are the third most important canon of documents to understand the founding of the United States Constitution.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, Tanner Charlie Kirk Show.
00:00:01.000 Steve Bannon joins us about the disappointing continuing resolution update.
00:00:05.000 And then we talk about Nikki Haley wanting to get your name and information if you are anonymous online.
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00:00:37.000 Here we go.
00:00:38.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
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00:00:50.000 He's an incredible guy.
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00:01:20.000 Lots to cover.
00:01:21.000 The big story that has been unfolding, we'll get to the CR, we'll get to Mike Johnson, the disappointment that he is, and we'll get to all that.
00:01:29.000 But the story I want to lead with is critical.
00:01:31.000 You cannot have a free society if you can't speak and can't be private.
00:01:38.000 Privacy is a necessary prerequisite to a free society.
00:01:42.000 We don't think about that very often.
00:01:44.000 The ability to remain in the shadows if you so choose, the ability not to be exposed and surveilled by your government is critical.
00:01:53.000 You cannot have freedom if you do not have privacy if you so choose.
00:01:59.000 If you're constantly being surveilled, constantly being monitored, how can you be free?
00:02:06.000 Of course, the prophet, the modern-day prophet who articulated this better than anybody else, is George Orwell.
00:02:15.000 Orwell wrote extensively in 1984 about how, if there are constant eyes on you, monitoring your behavior, monitoring your actions, you cannot be free.
00:02:28.000 Now, of course, free speech is one that we talk about all the time, but privacy, not as much.
00:02:32.000 And if we are honest, Republicans have been worse until recently than Democrats on the privacy issue.
00:02:40.000 We will cover this as it's looming, but a renewal of the FBI's Patriot Act is coming up in December.
00:02:48.000 Keep your eyes on that.
00:02:49.000 It's why Christopher Wray is testifying in front of Congress about, well, you know, there's all these threats on the homeland.
00:02:55.000 They want a renewal.
00:02:56.000 That's not what we're talking about today, but keep your eye on that.
00:02:59.000 The ability to speak freely, and if you so choose, to not put your name behind it, is a constitutionally protected freedom and a God-granted right.
00:03:12.000 In October of 1787, the first in a series of 85 essays arguing for the ratification of the Constitution appeared in the Independent Journal under the pseudonym Publius, addressed to the people of the state of New York.
00:03:23.000 We now call these the Federalist Papers.
00:03:26.000 I believe the Federalist Papers are the third most important canon of documents for someone to read and understand what did the founders think about the formulation of the U.S. Constitution.
00:03:41.000 The most important document, I believe, is the Declaration, then the Constitution.
00:03:45.000 I could get into why that's for an AMA and Ask Me Anything episode on Friday.
00:03:50.000 You have to understand the Declaration, then, of course, the Constitution.
00:03:53.000 They're basically tied for one, but if you have to make a list, one, two, and then the Federalist Papers.
00:03:56.000 One, two, three.
00:03:58.000 Federalist papers is where you get so many of these quotes that are mentioned.
00:04:05.000 Well, not men are angels, and if all men were angels, government would not be necessary.
00:04:10.000 That's from the Federalist Papers.
00:04:11.000 The Federalist Papers, and there were the anti-Federalist papers, these were published in New York newspapers as a way to defend the coming ratification push for states to adopt the U.S. Constitution.
00:04:26.000 Now, remember, the United States was a country.
00:04:30.000 They tried the Articles of Confederation, didn't work great.
00:04:33.000 So they needed to have some sort of small but strong federal government.
00:04:36.000 The authors of the Federalist Papers knew that if they put their names behind the Federalist papers, that people would be more focused on them as people and politicians than the arguments themselves.
00:04:50.000 You could make the argument that the U.S. Constitution may not have been ratified if Hamilton, Madison, and Jay actually put their names behind the Federalist Papers.
00:05:02.000 Think about how true this is, by the way.
00:05:05.000 Think about how many times that we, for better or for worse, inject our biases into an op-ed or a tweet as soon as we see who is writing that tweet.
00:05:18.000 I fall victim to that.
00:05:20.000 I immediately, if I see something published by Tucker Carlson, I give it much more weight.
00:05:25.000 If I see something published by Alexandria Acasio-Cortez, I think it's almost immediately shallow.
00:05:31.000 It takes a lot to try to strip yourself of that bias and look at the argument itself and then say, is that a good idea or a bad idea?
00:05:38.000 Some of the most powerful writings in the modern era come from people online that do not put their name that they would go by.
00:05:49.000 For example, one of our favorite guests on this program, Citizen Kane, citizenfreepress.com.
00:05:58.000 Citizen Kane goes by a pseudonym.
00:06:01.000 And he's on the show today, by the way.
00:06:03.000 I'm not going to ask him his real name.
00:06:05.000 I'm not going to try to find his identity.
00:06:08.000 He wants to operate with anonymity and he has a constitutional, God-given right to not be doxxed, not be smeared, not be harassed.
00:06:20.000 It is a mark of an unfree society when the government wants to insert themselves to find out the name, the details of every person that is speaking.
00:06:31.000 Now, mind you, for a short moment, I once entertained the stupid idea that the way to fix social media is through identity verification.
00:06:43.000 For a short moment, I once believed this. 0.76
00:06:46.000 I don't know if I ever said it publicly. 1.00
00:06:47.000 If I did, it was stupid. 0.92
00:06:49.000 But then somebody confronted me with the facts, and you should always reconsider your opinions. 0.97
00:06:53.000 People that are not reconsidering their opinions, you're a zealot at that point.
00:06:57.000 You should look at the facts.
00:06:59.000 You should look at the details. 0.99
00:07:00.000 And it's like, oh, that's actually a really dumb idea.
00:07:02.000 By the way, Elon Musk at one point said, well, maybe we should have people verified.
00:07:06.000 And then you realize that it is not just a right, but what makes speech possible in the modern era is if you want to be anonymous, you could be anonymous.
00:07:22.000 Writing with pseudonyms was the norm in 1787 through 88.
00:07:26.000 Using the pseudonym concealed the identity of just one writer.
00:07:29.000 Maybe this is a hangover from the more dangerous revolutionary days, but it persisted in America political writing for a long time.
00:07:35.000 And the purpose was always to hide one's identity by not revealing their identities.
00:07:40.000 They were able to focus on the content of the essays rather than the personal reputations or political affiliations.
00:07:46.000 I don't know who wrote this, but it's very similar to what I said previously.
00:07:49.000 This allowed them to be effectively appealed to a broader audience and gain support for the Constitution.
00:07:53.000 Exactly what I said.
00:07:54.000 You focus on the argument, not the person.
00:07:57.000 A leading Republican, not leading in the polls, but someone who gets a lot of attention, disagrees with this.
00:08:02.000 Nimarata, Haley.
00:08:06.000 Yeah, that's right. 0.51
00:08:07.000 Her real name is Nimarata. 0.95
00:08:09.000 Wants you to hand over your driver's license to the federal government to be able to use social media.
00:08:17.000 Not only is this a bad idea, it's repulsive.
00:08:21.000 This makes us no better than social credit score Chinese Communist Party tyrants that want every last detail of a populace that you're already crushing with the boot of the federal government. 0.93
00:08:36.000 Play cut 57 of Nimarata Haley, PlayCut 57.
00:08:41.000 When I get into office, the first thing we have to do, social media accounts, social media companies, they have to show America their algorithms.
00:08:49.000 Let us see why they're pushing what they're pushing.
00:08:51.000 The second thing is every person on social media should be verified by their name.
00:08:57.000 That's, first of all, it's a national security threat.
00:08:59.000 When you do that, all of a sudden people have to stand by what they say and it gets rid of the Russian bots, the Iranian bots, and the Chinese bots.
00:09:07.000 And then you're going to get some civility when people know their name is next to what they say.
00:09:12.000 Accountability.
00:09:13.000 And they know their pastor and their family member is going to see it.
00:09:15.000 It's going to help our kids and it's going to help our country.
00:09:18.000 It doesn't sound irrational, right?
00:09:20.000 Yeah, let's have everyone say their name.
00:09:22.000 You know how many millions of people that follow us?
00:09:25.000 I wouldn't say millions, let's be fair, hundreds of thousands of people that follow us with anonymous accounts.
00:09:30.000 You know why?
00:09:31.000 They're afraid they're going to lose their job.
00:09:32.000 They're afraid they're going to be kicked out of a sorority, a fraternity.
00:09:36.000 And God bless them for still wanting to engage in the discourse online without ruining their life.
00:09:42.000 Maybe they're a federal employee.
00:09:44.000 Maybe they are doing the Lord's work in an institution that is primary left wing, primary left-wing.
00:09:50.000 Maybe they're a serviceman.
00:09:51.000 Maybe they're a police officer, firefighter.
00:09:53.000 Maybe they are, God bless them, a federal agent in San Francisco.
00:09:59.000 Nikki Haley wants to require them.
00:10:02.000 Show yourself, citizen, and I shall make a better internet.
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00:13:14.000 Anonymity is a protected right.
00:13:17.000 Nikki Haley actually agrees with that. 1.00
00:13:19.000 Nikki Haley blasted Letitia James last year for leaking her donors. 0.99
00:13:26.000 Quote, Nikki Haley accused Letitia James of leaking the names of her anonymous donors.
00:13:31.000 By the way, I totally support anonymous donations.
00:13:34.000 I think the ability to give money anonymously is a constitutional right.
00:13:39.000 It comes with a cost.
00:13:40.000 At times you do not know who is funding what, but the ability for someone to remain private, to donate a political cause is a constitutional right.
00:13:51.000 Overall, it's actually a great check against tyranny to have anonymous donations.
00:13:56.000 We know why they don't want anonymous donations.
00:13:58.000 They want to be able to target the funders of the organizations and movements and political candidates that they don't like.
00:14:06.000 I don't think foreigners should be able to buy their way into American politics. 1.00
00:14:09.000 That is in some way a separate issue, though.
00:14:11.000 That's already banned by federal law.
00:14:13.000 So if you're running a 527, running a campaign, you by law are not allowed to have foreign donations come in.
00:14:19.000 You're not.
00:14:19.000 Now, 501c4s technically can, and groups like Greenpeace and all these other ones are taking very suspicious money from China.
00:14:27.000 Also, the Swiss guy, billionaire that we talked about last week.
00:14:32.000 But what else was written anonymously?
00:14:34.000 Nikki Haley is really big into finding the identity of all people.
00:14:38.000 Did you know that the book of Hebrews in the Bible is written anonymously?
00:14:44.000 Traditionally, people thought that Paul the Apostle wrote it, but since the year 300, it's really been debated.
00:14:50.000 It's canonized.
00:14:51.000 It is in the Holy Scriptures.
00:14:54.000 We don't know who wrote it.
00:14:57.000 Now, obviously, the ultimate author is God, but the person who transcribed it, who was it?
00:15:04.000 Should we remove it, Nikki Haley?
00:15:06.000 We don't know the identity of the author of the book of Hebrews.
00:15:10.000 Should we get rid of it since we don't know that?
00:15:13.000 Some of the great works in the history of literature were done under pseudonyms or different names.
00:15:19.000 Some people speculate that Shakespeare wrote under a pseudonym.
00:15:24.000 Some people.
00:15:26.000 Here is a good rule.
00:15:28.000 The more tyrannical a civilization gets, the more necessary anonymous speech is.
00:15:35.000 If we were living in a perfectly free society and everything was just humming along, it would still be a bad idea, Nikki Haley, but it wouldn't be as threatening of an idea.
00:15:46.000 Imagine the implications of this, that every single person online must hand over their driver's license.
00:15:57.000 How is that not in a rapid expansion of the police state?
00:16:02.000 This is Nimurata Haley continuing play cut 63.
00:16:06.000 When I get into office, the first thing we have to do, social media accounts, not social media companies, they have to show America their algorithm.
00:16:14.000 Let us see why they're pushing what they're pushing.
00:16:16.000 The second thing is every person on social media should be verified by their name.
00:16:23.000 I don't know.
00:16:23.000 Who put that in there?
00:16:24.000 That's not fair.
00:16:27.000 AI is going to destroy our politics. 0.95
00:16:29.000 Nikki Haley would want to find the person who made that.
00:16:33.000 Think about the implications.
00:16:35.000 This is all, this is a regime push thing.
00:16:38.000 If Nikki Haley is pushing it, that means it's regime verified.
00:16:42.000 Douglas Mackey goes to prison for making a meme making fun of Hillary Clinton.
00:16:46.000 Douglas Mackey originally published it under a pseudonym.
00:16:50.000 They found him.
00:16:52.000 Being able to communicate with privacy not only is a respected right and a constitutional right, but it also protects liberty.
00:17:07.000 Tyrants want to find the identity of any dissident so that they can punish those people that speak against them.
00:17:16.000 Do you know probably why Nikki Haley is saying this?
00:17:20.000 Because she's really bothered by all the comments in her Twitter feed.
00:17:24.000 Let's be honest.
00:17:26.000 She is probably flipping through her social and she sees negative, negative, negative, and negative, negative.
00:17:31.000 I haven't actually looked at her social media.
00:17:33.000 I would imagine that was it.
00:17:34.000 And a tyrant or someone that has tyrannical impulses thinks, I want to know their names, hold them accountable.
00:17:46.000 Sometimes you have to receive criticism if you're a public figure from people that do not show their name.
00:17:52.000 That is the beauty of freedom of speech. 0.94
00:17:55.000 And I got to tell you, Nikki Haley is getting attacked from every direction for this awful idea.
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00:18:41.000 Joining us now is Steve Bennon.
00:18:43.000 Steve, welcome to the program.
00:18:44.000 Steve, loved your show this morning.
00:18:46.000 Steve, I want to pick up kind of what you were saying.
00:18:48.000 You had something really smart.
00:18:49.000 You said this morning.
00:18:50.000 You said that what a missed opportunity of leverage for House Republicans.
00:18:54.000 In a lot of MA deals, you might have, on the surface, very little leverage.
00:18:58.000 In reality, you have more than you realize if you're willing to use it.
00:19:02.000 I'm very disappointed, Steve.
00:19:03.000 Speaker Johnson and the Republicans worked with Schumer and McConnell and with Jeffries to give them everything they wanted.
00:19:11.000 We had the biggest leverage.
00:19:12.000 Thanksgiving and Christmas break was the leverage, and we punted it away.
00:19:16.000 Steve, your thoughts?
00:19:18.000 Punted it away, but good news, Charlie.
00:19:20.000 Just a few minutes ago, the House Conservatives didn't pass the rule like we did the other day on this rule, and everybody's gone home.
00:19:28.000 We shut down debate on a couple more appropriations bill, just a few of people just saying this is outrageous.
00:19:36.000 Remember, what Johnson did here is that the rule couldn't get, they couldn't get even the rule to the floor.
00:19:42.000 It had been defeated on the floor by Republicans, and it couldn't get out of committee, couldn't get any rules.
00:19:48.000 And Johnson went around us to do a suspension rule where you need two-thirds of the House.
00:19:54.000 That means he knew he's going to depend upon 200 Democrats.
00:19:58.000 So this is a teaching moment.
00:20:01.000 I think it's, look, I'm a big supporter of Speaker Johnson if he mans up.
00:20:06.000 You know, I said today he's got a biblical worldview.
00:20:09.000 He's a very devout Christian.
00:20:11.000 But in this regard, you know, the meek may inherit the earth, but only the strong, the bold, and quite frankly, the mean are going to take on this nest of vipers up on Capitol Hill.
00:20:23.000 We saw Jesus Christ, our Lord, had to go into the temple and take the bull whip and flip some stuff over and get the money changers out of there.
00:20:31.000 That's exactly what we have in the nation's capital.
00:20:33.000 And it's going to take church-vigilant Christians to be able to take this on. 0.98
00:20:38.000 And it's outrageous right now.
00:20:40.000 We had huge leverage, huge leverage, and basically gave it away for 75 days.
00:20:45.000 And my question is: what's going to change in 75 days?
00:20:48.000 So I think this is your audience, the Soviets, the War Room, Real American Voice, all of our radio audience and podcasts have got to get to the ramparts.
00:20:56.000 And we're going to have a Donnie Brook.
00:20:58.000 And I think every day we've got to put people on notice.
00:21:01.000 And on January 17th, the government's got to shut down unless we get massive cuts and a sealed border.
00:21:06.000 Don't get sealed border and massive cuts.
00:21:08.000 Then there's no use going forward.
00:21:10.000 Yeah, so Steve, walk our audience through the Thanksgiving Christmas deal.
00:21:16.000 We were both on the exact same page.
00:21:18.000 Why wouldn't the Republicans shut down the government?
00:21:20.000 That's not even a big thing.
00:21:22.000 And have Thanksgiving at the Capitol.
00:21:23.000 Now we're supposed to believe that in January, there's going to be this massive influx of courage and willingness.
00:21:29.000 Right now is the time.
00:21:30.000 If there's any time to do quote unquote the unpopular, do it before Christmas, and then people forget about it in time for the new year.
00:21:39.000 What is Speaker Johnson thinking here?
00:21:41.000 And I'll be honest, Steve, you know, he's a Christian man, but he's being dishonest. 0.99
00:21:46.000 He said as soon as he got in, no more CRs.
00:21:48.000 We're going to do 12 separate bills.
00:21:50.000 That's just not true.
00:21:51.000 That's not true.
00:21:53.000 You punted this thing away.
00:21:55.000 We had Thanksgiving.
00:21:56.000 We had Christmas.
00:21:57.000 You could have shut it down, make the old bulls in the Senate not go home for Thanksgiving, make them do the work.
00:22:03.000 What is the argument here, Steve?
00:22:05.000 I'm not sympathizing with that.
00:22:08.000 Listen, it was to force them to shut down the regime, to defund the Biden regime, and to use that time to really hammer through tough cuts.
00:22:16.000 I mean, we have to have massive cuts.
00:22:17.000 I walked through the day that, you know, this last deficit was $2 trillion.
00:22:22.000 This current deficit is going to be $2 trillion.
00:22:25.000 The interest expense is exploding.
00:22:27.000 The interest expense is going to be double what it was last year.
00:22:30.000 And it was $600 billion, which is double the year before.
00:22:33.000 We can't sell the bonds.
00:22:34.000 A moment of crisis is here.
00:22:35.000 That's why you have to act urgently.
00:22:38.000 That's why we needed Thanksgiving and Christmas.
00:22:42.000 And what they should have done is said, bring everybody to the Capitol.
00:22:45.000 Let's send the congressman that day out to the food banks around town to share America's abundance with the poor.
00:22:52.000 That's biblical.
00:22:53.000 And then get back to work.
00:22:54.000 Go back to the Capitol in the afternoon and work and work all the way through Christmas.
00:22:58.000 I mean, our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, if you asked him, he said, hey, I'm trying to save the new Jerusalem, the American Republic, or, you know, I go to church to commemorate and celebrate your birth, but we got to get to work.
00:23:12.000 He would say, absolutely, not even a question.
00:23:14.000 Get on with it.
00:23:15.000 This is what's so they're working in a schedule that is a normal course of business schedule.
00:23:21.000 And Speaker Johnson's got to understand the war room posse is just not going to accept this.
00:23:26.000 That's why today we come bombarded with calls and they had to pull these appropriations bills.
00:23:32.000 I think they're going to send everybody home here in the next couple of hours and not even stick around till tomorrow when they were going to leave because he knows he's jammed right now.
00:23:40.000 We've essentially stopped it and said this is unacceptable.
00:23:43.000 Yeah, so Steve, you know, the Warren Posse is a working class audience.
00:23:48.000 I find it really insulting.
00:23:49.000 I would imagine at least half of your audience at some point had to work on Christmas or Thanksgiving, had to bring in some extra income for the family, police officer, firefighter, emergency, you know, HVAC call, military, you know, ER, nurse, you name it.
00:24:03.000 I mean, at times, Steve, you got to go to work.
00:24:06.000 I like being off for Thanksgiving.
00:24:07.000 You like being off for Thanksgiving, but sometimes you just got to go to work.
00:24:10.000 So I'm going to go, okay, it's not how I want it to be.
00:24:12.000 And yet Republicans, they want to go home.
00:24:15.000 They want to be able to rest on their laurels and delight in the excess.
00:24:19.000 Borders wide open, $2 trillion.
00:24:20.000 Steve, you do a better show than anybody else.
00:24:22.000 Talk about just the financial, the fiscal and financial calamity.
00:24:26.000 No cuts.
00:24:27.000 And I'm really supposed to believe that Speaker Johnson is going to be able to unite the tribes in January of an election year to be able to cut spending.
00:24:34.000 They're just going to need another CR, or they'll do something around the edges and trim $10 billion here or $10 billion there.
00:24:39.000 It's a joke.
00:24:40.000 And we had all this leverage.
00:24:43.000 The bad guys did not want to shut down.
00:24:45.000 We gave them what they wanted, Steve.
00:24:48.000 You just said in an election year.
00:24:51.000 Now think about it for a second.
00:24:53.000 We're going home now, having given them a clean CR of which Hakeem Jeffries.
00:24:58.000 And this is why I played the Morning Joe thing.
00:25:00.000 They rubbed their noses in it this morning, and they should have rubbed their noses in it this morning.
00:25:04.000 They should have mocked us.
00:25:05.000 It's mockable.
00:25:07.000 It should be mocked.
00:25:08.000 There's only between now and 17 January, there's only 21 workdays for Congress.
00:25:14.000 For eight weeks, there's only 21 workdays.
00:25:16.000 It's unbelievable.
00:25:17.000 And they're going to stick to that schedule.
00:25:19.000 And I said, oh, people told me, he says, you don't understand the strategy that the moderates and the New York contingent and Don Baking and this crowd have to go back and socialize these cuts.
00:25:29.000 And I said, what do you mean socialize the cuts?
00:25:31.000 Financial times are pointing.
00:25:33.000 Only 14% of Americans think their lives are financially better off right now.
00:25:36.000 Everybody understands the lived experience of Americans right now is horrific because of inflation and now because of the structural change in interest rates.
00:25:46.000 We can't sell the bonds.
00:25:47.000 Another story out today on Business Insider.
00:25:51.000 It's easier to sell bonds from Morocco and Vietnam than it is for the United States because we have such a massive amount of financing that has to be done.
00:25:58.000 And people are afraid they buy a 30 right now and what, 5% or above that interest rates go up.
00:26:04.000 30 year bonds right now trade at 50 cents on the dollar.
00:26:07.000 So we're in a financial crisis.
00:26:10.000 It has to be addressed as a financial crisis.
00:26:12.000 That does mean half days.
00:26:13.000 And Charlie, you said it.
00:26:15.000 Normally, nothing gets done in election year.
00:26:18.000 Now he proposes that we're going to come back in January, face the biggest financial crisis where he just said yesterday.
00:26:25.000 This sets us up.
00:26:26.000 This is his quote.
00:26:27.000 This sets us up for a series of significant conservative victories starting with the two-ladder approach in January, February.
00:26:35.000 Well, brother, he's going to have to make that presentation because I'm not feeling anything.
00:26:39.000 I can tell you right now, the right wing of the party is on fire and the people are on fire because they understand in their lived experience, this is only not a catastrophe today, but it's going to get worse.
00:26:50.000 And they wanted to stop.
00:26:52.000 Yeah, I just want to tell you, here's how it's going to work.
00:26:55.000 And then, Steve, I have a very pointed question for you.
00:26:57.000 The moderates are going to come back from Christmas break and they're all going to have a meeting with Johnson and be like, Johnson, we had a bunch of town halls.
00:27:02.000 By the way, they're not doing town halls. 1.00
00:27:03.000 That's a bunch of crap. 0.99
00:27:04.000 You know that, Steve. 1.00
00:27:05.000 They're going to be going, getting drunk with lobbyists and a bunch of town halls.
00:27:09.000 Give me a break.
00:27:10.000 They'll do one coffee with a bunch of insiders and say, yeah, I was talking to my voters.
00:27:13.000 Yeah, yeah, okay.
00:27:14.000 But they're going to come back to Mike Johnson and be like, yeah, Mike, our district, boy, we're in a tough race.
00:27:20.000 And I saw a lot of ads against me.
00:27:22.000 We can't do anything controversial, Mike.
00:27:24.000 It's an election year.
00:27:25.000 Let's just punt till after election day, you know, November, let's do a, let's do a CR to November 15th.
00:27:31.000 And after election day, let's just clean this up so we can campaign so we can keep the house Mike Johnson.
00:27:38.000 Steve, they're not going to.
00:27:38.000 You're trying to tell me that they're going to be doing a bunch of struggle listening sessions in their districts.
00:27:42.000 Like, we're supposed to believe that this is the reason they did this, that they need to go back to listen to their voters.
00:27:47.000 And, oh, yeah, great point.
00:27:48.000 All this.
00:27:49.000 I got a pointed question, Steve.
00:27:51.000 Why did Mike Johnson do this?
00:27:53.000 Was he being blackmailed, smeared, threatened, bad advice?
00:27:53.000 Why?
00:27:56.000 This is inconsistent with the character of the man that so many have had we had high hopes for.
00:28:01.000 I believe strongly that is because he has been overwhelmed, the psyop of quote-unquote, a government shutdown, which we say bring it.
00:28:12.000 If we get to midnight, if we get to midnight on Friday, Saturday is a great day.
00:28:18.000 Because the gun's to their head, not to ours.
00:28:18.000 Why?
00:28:21.000 We welcome this.
00:28:23.000 We don't look at it as a negative.
00:28:24.000 We look at it as a positive.
00:28:25.000 The reason it's a positive, it's another piece of leverage.
00:28:28.000 It's another hammer.
00:28:29.000 All of a sudden, Hakeem Jeffries and Schumer and McConnell and Biden are the ones scrambling.
00:28:34.000 And that's when you get the best deals.
00:28:36.000 Not when you give up time.
00:28:38.000 Time is our friend here.
00:28:41.000 The restrictions of time are always our friend.
00:28:43.000 You have to, with what we have, we have to squeeze every ounce of advantage from these moments.
00:28:52.000 And you can't kick it down the road.
00:28:54.000 I think he fell into the trap of D.C. He's got a lot of McCarthy guys still around staff, all of the Fox and Murdoch News Network, all about government shutdown, government shutdown, government shutdown.
00:29:04.000 The Murdoch's being the business class want things to go on as it is.
00:29:08.000 And what they want to do is exactly what you're saying when they come back.
00:29:12.000 And remember, on his schedule, I want the audience to understand this on his schedule, on his schedule, the best case, we will be halfway through this fiscal year, this fiscal year, which started October 1st before we even approved any budget.
00:29:25.000 On the best case, we'd be halfway through the year approving something that basically had a trade and a half to $2 trillion deficit that has to be financed and immediately go in to next fiscal year, which we should have by July or August with another $2 trillion deficit.
00:29:43.000 The Democles sword over the American Republic right now is out of control spending and a drop in revenue where we're going to have in perpetuity $2 trillion deficits.
00:29:55.000 They're just not financeable.
00:29:56.000 People under 30 years old, and I would say now probably 35 years old, are staring in the face a life of Russian serfdom where you're not going to own anything. 0.96
00:30:08.000 You're never going to be able to buy a house.
00:30:10.000 We're never going to, you're going to have a country that has at best one and a half to two percent growth, going to have high inflation and structurally high interest rates.
00:30:18.000 Your life is about to change here radically because what the uniparty political class has done and the gutlessness of those people to face some just basic math.
00:30:26.000 This is not quantum mechanics.
00:30:28.000 This is pretty straightforward.
00:30:29.000 And Mike Johnson's got to understand, he's either got a man up here.
00:30:33.000 And I mean, go back and I keep saying, hey, go to the last book of the Bible.
00:30:37.000 You got a biblical worldview.
00:30:39.000 Well, go to the book of Revelations and read the section on come and see, because that mantra, come and see the destruction of the American Republic on your watch, where you're one of the people responsible.
00:30:51.000 It's a disappointment.
00:30:53.000 It's going to pass.
00:30:54.000 The Senate's going to approve it.
00:30:56.000 Joe Biden will sign it.
00:30:57.000 By the way, Schumer's celebrating.
00:30:58.000 He sent out a press release.
00:30:59.000 This is so great.
00:31:01.000 We get to go back for Christmas.
00:31:04.000 We had all this leverage.
00:31:06.000 What the regime wanted was a clean Christmas break.
00:31:10.000 Honestly, for nothing else, we should have just said, no, you're staying in D.C. Get to work, you old bulls. 0.98
00:31:16.000 You've ruined this country. 0.92
00:31:20.000 Steve, I want to play some of this clip of you on the circus.
00:31:23.000 I think it was awesome.
00:31:24.000 I think you did great.
00:31:24.000 By the way, I'm sure they edited it selectively, right, Steve?
00:31:27.000 I'm sure it was this long.
00:31:29.000 Oh, big time.
00:31:29.000 Yeah, yeah.
00:31:30.000 And so I could tell.
00:31:32.000 Two and a half, two and a half hours, two and a half hours, and they used five minutes.
00:31:36.000 Two and a half.
00:31:36.000 And Kerry Lake gave 30 a full beatdown of Hollman and Miller, and they used not a second.
00:31:42.000 You always have to record it yourself, right?
00:31:45.000 You always got to record it yourself, then you could use it.
00:31:47.000 They hate it because they want editorial control.
00:31:49.000 I love this.
00:31:50.000 Play Cut 69.
00:31:52.000 I'm so voting sick of people saying election is about the future.
00:31:56.000 That is totally voters?
00:31:57.000 It's about the lived experience of the voters. 0.99
00:31:59.000 Because the lived experience of their lives sucks. 1.00
00:32:02.000 And the reason it sucks is a fing, unfeeling uniparty in Washington, D.C. that says, go f yourself. 1.00
00:32:08.000 You're nothing but serfs, and we don't give a shit about you. 1.00
00:32:12.000 Steve, the regime, and dare I say, Speaker Johnson, just did the same thing. 1.00
00:32:17.000 Go F yourself.
00:32:18.000 We need our own.
00:32:19.000 We need Thanksgiving break.
00:32:20.000 We need Christmas.
00:32:21.000 And by the way, Steve, you know, you've done some of the biggest deals in business that people know of, both in media and otherwise.
00:32:27.000 You know what it's like to work 20-hour days.
00:32:29.000 Is the House Republican Conference really putting the leather down?
00:32:33.000 Or are they right now on flights back to their back home?
00:32:36.000 I think they're going back.
00:32:37.000 I think done.
00:32:38.000 They've closed the place up, right?
00:32:39.000 Well, they're supposed to go tomorrow, but I think we shut down even well. 0.98
00:32:42.000 I think there was a revolt this afternoon or early late this morning to say we're not passing anymore of this crap, right? 0.90
00:32:48.000 We're not going to do these appropriations bills right now because they don't have deep enough cuts. 0.98
00:32:52.000 There's been a revolt.
00:32:53.000 One thing, Charlie, remember for the audience, this is Nancy Pelosi's numbers.
00:32:58.000 Let that sink in for a second.
00:33:00.000 We have accepted now Nancy Pelosi's budget numbers and we're spending to with not one penny cut of Nancy Pelosi's budget.
00:33:10.000 Not only did you, you're 100% correct.
00:33:12.000 Shock and awe of saying, hey, we ain't going anywhere and we're going to work 20-hour days and we'll work all the way through the end of the New Year's Day, right?
00:33:21.000 Would have put this town in shock and you would have seen a lot of deals being cut.
00:33:25.000 They didn't do that and they acquiesced to take Nancy Pelosi's numbers.
00:33:30.000 And her policy, not one change of policy, not one change of a dollar.
00:33:34.000 Can you think of a moment ever where the Democrats capitulated to Republicans and gave them what they wanted, Steve?
00:33:41.000 Ever?
00:33:42.000 It's never happened. 1.00
00:33:43.000 Nancy Pelosi, for as much as I know people hate her, she's a hammer. 1.00
00:33:46.000 Never. 1.00
00:33:47.000 They never.
00:33:48.000 They lock in unison.
00:33:49.000 They get a game plan and then they roll.
00:33:52.000 And their game plan is always as far left as they can possibly take it.
00:33:55.000 They always, their default position is always far left.
00:33:58.000 That's why you have this woken weaponized government.
00:34:01.000 And Republicans, listen, we're not $34 trillion in debt now with $2 trillion annual deficits because the Republican Party, the Union Party's rolled over for year after year after year after year.
00:34:13.000 It was only the MAGA House.
00:34:15.000 It's only Trump's inspiration for people to get engaged in that precinct strategy.
00:34:20.000 And now you have new voices and you have voices farther to the right that's even gotten us to this place to say, no, we must stop this madness.
00:34:27.000 There must be not just cuts, massive budget cuts today, and a sealed border that leads to mass deportations, that the two crises of the invasion of the country and the financial crisis in the capital markets are inextricably linked, must be addressed.
00:34:42.000 It must be addressed now.
00:34:43.000 We're not kicking the can down the road.
00:34:45.000 We've done that for decades, year after year, decade after decade.
00:34:50.000 And the Democrats have been unmovable.
00:34:52.000 That's how we're in this situation.
00:34:54.000 That's why you see the fighters now that tossed off McCarthy.
00:34:58.000 And I got to tell you, Speaker Johnson has to do some real reflection because if he's not up to the task, I think the honorable thing for him to do is just resign.
00:35:06.000 If he's not up to the task, just step into the breach and be like, you know, be as close to Christ as possible and going into the temple and driving out the money changers in our nation's capital, then it's time to just be a man of honor, say, look, you know, I was a great constitutional lawyer.
00:35:23.000 I fought for all these social issues.
00:35:25.000 This is just too much for me.
00:35:26.000 Step aside and let's get the next man up.
00:35:29.000 I mean, I totally agree.
00:35:31.000 And Steve, it's just, it's gone.
00:35:34.000 By the way, we can lament all we want.
00:35:36.000 The leverage is gone.
00:35:37.000 We had this amazing opportunity where the regime had an ask.
00:35:41.000 The regime had an ask, and their ask was a demand more than an ask, right, Steve?
00:35:45.000 We want time off for Thanksgiving and Christmas, period.
00:35:49.000 They showed their hand.
00:35:50.000 We know what the old bulls wanted.
00:35:51.000 We know what Hakeem wanted.
00:35:53.000 We know what the bad guys wanted.
00:35:54.000 Rarely in a deal, Steve, and you've done huge deals.
00:35:56.000 Do the bad guys show what they want more than anything else and you can prevent it.
00:36:01.000 So we just said, you're not getting that.
00:36:02.000 You're working every day now to New Year's.
00:36:05.000 Scared yet?
00:36:06.000 And yeah, it would have been warfare.
00:36:08.000 But guess what?
00:36:09.000 The country's collapsing.
00:36:10.000 Instead, Mike Johnson said, Here you go, Chuck Schumer.
00:36:12.000 Would you like me to polish it for you?
00:36:16.000 How can I help you, Chuck Schumer?
00:36:19.000 And that's exactly what we get now with Speaker Johnson.
00:36:22.000 All right, Steve Bannon, great job.
00:36:23.000 Thanks so much.
00:36:24.000 Appreciate it.
00:36:24.000 Charlie, thanks, Ben.
00:36:28.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:36:30.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:36:33.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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