The Charlie Kirk Show - Nikole Hannah-Jones vs. Charlie Kirk: Two Diametrically Opposed Visions for America LIVE from Lancaster, PA

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00:02:18.000 Wow, what a program.

00:02:20.000 So impressive.

00:02:22.000 I speak at a lot of different places.

00:02:24.000 This is very different than what I experienced last week.

00:02:27.000 So for those of you that don't know, I visit college campuses, so you don't have to.

00:02:31.000 And last week, I was in Boulder, Berkeley, and Cal State Fullerton.

00:02:38.000 So it's a lot different of a reaction.

00:02:40.000 I know some of you are booing.

00:02:41.000 Totally understandable, right?

00:02:43.000 You should boo Berkeley. 0.52

00:02:44.000 It's a very dark place.

00:02:45.000 To give you an idea how dark Berkeley is, I had to bring a deliverance guy with me, right?

00:02:50.000 Just in case.

00:02:51.000 Victor Marks, if you know who I'm talking about.

00:02:54.000 But here's the amazing thing.

00:02:56.000 And there's something so special happening in our country.

00:02:58.000 When I visited Berkeley and Boulder last week, we had a major problem.

00:03:01.000 And it wasn't Antifa.

00:03:03.000 It wasn't all that nonsense.

00:03:05.000 We couldn't find rooms big enough to fit all the students that wanted to come to our events on campus.

00:03:11.000 Very special.

00:03:13.000 So I traveled 330 days last year all across the country.

00:03:17.000 I'm doing three podcasts a day, a couple hours of radio.

00:03:20.000 And I'm in the education space, but a little different than Day Spring.

00:03:24.000 I go to hostile territory and try to spread truth where there is none.

00:03:28.000 And tonight, we get to celebrate and support a place that is full of truth and full of light for liberty.

00:03:34.000 It's a little different, but the same thing, really, because we're trying to raise up a generation to understand what they've been given.

00:03:41.000 You know, we as human beings all have a lot in common.

00:03:44.000 One of the things we all have in common is that we've all been born into a world we did not create.

00:03:50.000 So we're born into a set of circumstances that are not our own.

00:03:54.000 And boy, are we blessed to be born in a set of circumstances in the United States of America?

00:03:59.000 And that statement alone is agreed upon by basically all of you, but it's now wildly controversial to say that in most schools today.

00:04:07.000 In fact, it's foreign. 0.95

00:04:08.000 It's a concept that most young people, when I come and I talk about how America is the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world, how the Constitution is the greatest political document ever written.

00:04:18.000 They want to believe it because in the soul of a person is a yearning to want to actually love the place that you're from.

00:04:24.000 But there's this disconnect between all the propaganda that they've been led to believe and versus what they are all of a sudden hearing what they know to be true.

00:04:32.000 And I think one of the reasons for that is actually something that is playing out right here in Lancaster, Pennsylvania right now, which is Lancaster Online.

00:04:41.000 I think that's a newspaper around here.

00:04:43.000 Very dishonest publication.

00:04:44.000 But yeah, thank you.

00:04:46.000 So I don't know.

00:04:47.000 Maybe I'm insulting somebody.

00:04:48.000 I don't care.

00:04:49.000 But whatever.

00:04:52.000 Yeah, okay, good.

00:04:55.000 They came out with a story about my trip here, and the title was totally right. 0.82

00:04:59.000 The rest you could just skip. 0.99

00:05:00.000 It's a bunch of garbage.

00:05:02.000 But it says this because I don't know if you know this or not, but Nicole Hannah Jones from the 1619 Project is also here in Lancaster. 0.97

00:05:10.000 We'll see if she was able to get as big of a crowd as this. 0.98

00:05:12.000 I don't know.

00:05:13.000 But it says in Lancaster Online, and they were right about one thing.

00:05:16.000 They said, Charlie Kirk and Nicole Hannah Jones both visit Lancaster, and they present differing visions for America.

00:05:25.000 And I said, that is absolutely true.

00:05:28.000 I do not share the same vision of the critical race theory woke ideology 1619 Project people. 0.99

00:05:36.000 I do not share the same worldview.

00:05:38.000 In fact, they're polar opposites.

00:05:41.000 Nicole Hannah Jones believes America was founded on racism from its core.

00:05:46.000 Nicole Hannah Jones believes we are built on white supremacy. 0.97

00:05:50.000 Now, you might say, who is this person?

00:05:51.000 She's teaching many of your children right now indirectly in public schools.

00:05:56.000 She writes the textbooks that many of your children, either in college or in high school, are consumed.

00:06:01.000 She's like the archbishop of nonsensical historical teaching in American secular leftist ideology.

00:06:09.000 And Nicole Hannah Jones wrote the 1619 Project, won a Pulitzer Prize for it.

00:06:13.000 She doesn't really say much, but whatever.

00:06:14.000 The New York Times publishes it, even though she doesn't use original source documents, use quotes out of context.

00:06:21.000 She has an ideological agenda that she tries to fit into kind of the cherry picking of historical events. 0.97

00:06:29.000 And her big argument, of course, is, well, look, the founders had slaves, or some of them did, therefore, bad people.

00:06:38.000 Okay, an unbelievably sloppy, lazy, and incoherent argument, obviously.

00:06:43.000 Because sense when do we judge the fruits of a person based on the mistakes they made in their life?

00:06:50.000 In fact, the Bible tells us not to do this.

00:06:52.000 The Bible tells us to do the opposite.

00:06:54.000 In fact, we are supposed to measure a man between the people that he or she was in the generation.

00:07:00.000 And I'll prove it to you.

00:07:02.000 Genesis 6 says that Noah was a righteous man amongst those in his generation.

00:07:09.000 Now, mind you, they didn't just say Noah was a righteous man because maybe Noah was not so righteous of a man if we compared him to Elijah or Joseph.

00:07:16.000 But no, Noah was a righteous man amongst those in his generation because Noah was the best we had to offer at that period of time.

00:07:24.000 It's like looking around like, well, we got Noah.

00:07:27.000 That's about it.

00:07:30.000 Who are we to go and say all of a sudden, you know that Thomas Jefferson guy, yeah, all right, whatever, architect, governor, statesman, secretary of state, president, author of the Declaration, but we don't like him because he owns slaves.

00:07:45.000 But Thomas Jefferson on his deathbed, which of course Nicole Hannah Jones would never tell you, he was one of the principal reasons why slavery, as we know it in the West, was on its way out, not on its way in.

00:07:55.000 You see, Nicole Hannah Jones, being the charlatan that she is who teaches your children, she would never tell you that in the United States of America in 1775 in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the first ever anti-slavery convention was held and chaired by Benjamin Franklin.

00:08:08.000 She would never tell you that the first state ever to abolish slavery did so inspired by the Declaration of Independence in 1777, Vermont.

00:08:15.000 She would never tell you that Thomas Jefferson in the original draft of the Declaration of Independence blamed King George for bringing the sin of slavery to America.

00:08:23.000 She would never tell you that Thomas Jefferson fought tooth and nail to try to abolish slavery in the 1790s as governor of Virginia.

00:08:29.000 She would never tell you that Thomas Jefferson in 1807 in March signed a moratorium of new slaves coming into the United States.

00:08:35.000 She would never tell you that nine out of 13 of the original founding colonies or states had already abolished slavery by the time the Constitution was ratified in 1787.

00:08:44.000 She would never tell you that in the Northwest Ordinance, which was a reflection of American founding values, had a unanimous agreement to say new territories, no slaves.

00:08:53.000 She would never tell you any of that.

00:08:54.000 Now, why?

00:08:56.000 It's because those little pesky things called facts make you thankful to be an American, and she does not want you to be thankful to be an American.

00:09:02.000 Instead, she wants to train your children to be ungrateful.

00:09:06.000 And that is the divide in America, isn't it?

00:09:08.000 When you have a citizenry that is thankful, that is anchored to the land, the story, the history, the culture, all of a sudden, they're a lot less likely to go burn down a Wendy's.

00:09:18.000 They're less likely to go march in some silly parade around systemic racism, whatever that is, doesn't exist.

00:09:24.000 When people are thankful citizens, they slow down and they want to conserve what they've been given.

00:09:29.000 You see, this all starts in whether or not we teach history correctly.

00:09:33.000 If we teach history correctly and we are able to engender a sense of informed patriotism, if we're able to get young people to be thankful for the land of which they are in, not only will be less likely to go to these radical movements, they'll be inspired to do the opposite.

00:09:50.000 They'll be inspired to all of a sudden want to go to great lengths to try to preserve the good, the true, and the beautiful.

00:09:56.000 We as Americans are stewards of this inexplicable project in self-government, a constitutional republic that was summoned into existence. 0.99

00:10:06.000 And so, the question that I'm asked often on college campuses, they say, and again, only someone who hasn't traveled could ask something so stupid as this, right? 0.97

00:10:13.000 They say, what makes America different? 0.93

00:10:15.000 And again, I would love to go send them, I don't know, Bangalore, India for a week, where they have 100 million people that don't have running water and without a toilet. 0.75

00:10:23.000 But anyway, what makes America different?

00:10:25.000 How about this?

00:10:26.000 We have a birthday.

00:10:28.000 Most nations don't.

00:10:29.000 Now, think about the significance of the fact that we have a date, a time, and a location when we started.

00:10:34.000 America did not stumble into existence.

00:10:37.000 We were summoned into existence.

00:10:39.000 We believed something, our founders did, and they acted on it.

00:10:43.000 Go show me the founding birthday of Great Britain.

00:10:46.000 You could have an approximation of a couple hundred years.

00:10:48.000 How about China?

00:10:49.000 A couple thousand years.

00:10:51.000 The idea that America started at a specific time, that we were declared as a country, showed that we believed something so firmly that we were willing to act on it.

00:11:00.000 Now, when you read the Declaration of Independence, which by the way fits beautifully into the U.S. Constitution, there's this modern liberal project that tries to make it seem as if the Constitution remedied the problem of the Declaration.

00:11:11.000 They're beautiful documents that fit one and the other.

00:11:11.000 It's not true.

00:11:14.000 You understand very quickly, the founding fathers, being the students of human nature and history, they were making universal declarations.

00:11:22.000 When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands that ties them to the other, deriving from the separate but equal station of the powers.

00:11:30.000 And it goes on to say the laws of nature and nature is God.

00:11:33.000 That they are making an argument that what we're doing right here is right no matter when it happens.

00:11:40.000 The founding fathers were making an argument that even though technology might progress, even though quote-unquote times change, human beings do not.

00:11:49.000 And then they put that into the law itself, the United States Constitution, the greatest political document ever written, which, by the way, is even more applicable today than it was in 1787.

00:11:59.000 You might say, Charlie, how dare you say something like that?

00:12:01.000 Let me prove it to you.

00:12:02.000 The Constitution, every single day, protects us against a tyrant, a health director, a ridiculous mask mandate, or something that tries to prey on our liberty.

00:12:12.000 Thank the Lord we have the Constitution still right now and say, actually, you have to live by this.

00:12:17.000 Actually, you have to live by this.

00:12:19.000 Now, mind you, because of bureaucratic despotism and fourth branch of government shenanigans, far too often the Constitution isn't obeyed.

00:12:27.000 But the Constitution was not written for the times.

00:12:31.000 It was written to stand the test of time.

00:12:34.000 And this is where we as Christians can find great comfort in what the Founding Fathers gave us.

00:12:39.000 It's because we think that, no, we believe that even though we have airplanes and Twitter and all this nonsense, that human beings remain exactly the same.

00:12:49.000 Human beings are equally as broken and sinful in the 1780s as they are in the 2020s.

00:12:54.000 You needed Jesus Christ then, and you need Jesus Christ now. 0.87

00:12:58.000 That does not change.

00:12:59.000 We're broken by original sin, that we are likely to abuse power.

00:13:06.000 So the Founding Fathers did the opposite of what most governmental projects have attempted to do in the last couple hundred years.

00:13:12.000 They tried not to mess it up.

00:13:15.000 I want you to think about that.

00:13:16.000 They made no qualms that they were not trying to create utopia.

00:13:20.000 Federalist 51 James Madison said, if all men were angels, government would not be necessary.

00:13:25.000 He's basically saying, we're dealing with a rather tampered raw product here called human beings.

00:13:30.000 How else could you explain separating power amongst so many different places?

00:13:35.000 How else could you explain a structure where it's so hard to get something done?

00:13:40.000 The founding fathers knew that if you're able to centralize power, that you are trying to touch something that only one being should be able to do, and that is God.

00:13:50.000 The founding fathers made no mistake that only God should be able to have the executive, legislative, and judicial power all combined in one.

00:13:56.000 That we as human beings must always separate those powers into different buckets.

00:14:00.000 That if you try to get them all in agreement, it better be a very, very good idea at the right time.

00:14:04.000 In fact, the tension, the structure between the branches is important.

00:14:08.000 Now, I'll ask, I ask college kids all the time, I say, what makes America freer than other countries?

00:14:13.000 And if they even believe that, which is nice, they'll say it's our Bill of Rights.

00:14:18.000 I'll say, every banana republic has a Bill of Rights.

00:14:20.000 I say, what makes it different?

00:14:22.000 You mean, you could go down to any African country.

00:14:24.000 Yeah, they'll have a Bill of Rights.

00:14:25.000 And, you know, half of them, unfortunately, don't obey it.

00:14:28.000 Well, it's the structure of the United States Constitution because the structure, by definition, is rooted in biblical humility.

00:14:36.000 That we are not God and we will not pretend that we are.

00:14:40.000 The Founding Fathers believed that there is a God and they were not them.

00:14:44.000 They were not him.

00:14:46.000 It's a very important point.

00:14:48.000 Imagine winning a war against the world's greatest power and voluntarily giving up that power.

00:14:53.000 That's the Founding Fathers.

00:14:55.000 Every other despot, dictator, civilization, country that came prior, with very few exceptions, when you win wars, you keep the spoils.

00:15:03.000 They could have created the Hamiltonian, Jeffersonian, Madisonian dynasty.

00:15:07.000 They could have split every state to go be kind of their own kind of king and make everybody pseudo-serfs, and no one would have questioned it.

00:15:16.000 Who wins a war and makes yourself less powerful?

00:15:18.000 Christians. 0.51

00:15:20.000 That's who.

00:15:22.000 People that understand the Bible and knew that they were fighting not just for land and for treasure, but for something that's God's idea, not man's idea, liberty.

00:15:30.000 That's who.

00:15:31.000 They were trying to bring forward something that was biblical, that was abstract, and they wanted to make it concrete, self-government, the ability to chart your own destiny.

00:15:40.000 They said, what if we can all of a sudden create a civilization, create a society that people can be free in the pursuit of virtue and pursuit of morality?

00:15:51.000 This was an unthinkable proposition.

00:15:53.000 So the American Constitution and our government has always had a couple promises.

00:15:57.000 There's two ways to govern people.

00:15:59.000 You can govern people through speech or you can govern people through force.

00:16:04.000 Vladimir Putin governs through force.

00:16:07.000 He doesn't try to persuade people when he does something.

00:16:10.000 We, at our best, govern through speech.

00:16:13.000 You have to make a good argument to get power.

00:16:15.000 Vote for me because I'm going to do this, this, this, and this.

00:16:18.000 The founding fathers knew that the fundamental part of being a human being is that you must speak to exist.

00:16:25.000 Because we're made in the image of God.

00:16:27.000 In the beginning, God spoke it into existence.

00:16:30.000 He spoke it into existence.

00:16:31.000 In the beginning was the word, and the word was God, and the word was with God.

00:16:34.000 That word is logos, rational speech, the ability to reason.

00:16:38.000 The founding fathers believed that they said, listen, the only way that could properly give up power for a civilization was you got to make a really good argument to be able to get power.

00:16:48.000 You got to convince people over a long period of time.

00:16:50.000 The Constitution was so distrustful of human nature, it spread power over time and space.

00:16:56.000 So it takes a long period of time to do something, and a lot of different people from a lot of different corners have to agree to it.

00:17:04.000 Said differently, the states created the federal government and the federal government did not create the states.

00:17:09.000 That it was a bottom-up people movement, not a top-down despotic dictator movement, which is another promise of the United States Constitution.

00:17:18.000 I'm afraid we're losing this right now, and we need a revival to reclaim it.

00:17:22.000 For most of America, the many ruled the few.

00:17:26.000 I'm afraid we're getting closer and closer to where the few rule the many.

00:17:30.000 Now, this gets wrongly labeled as a democracy.

00:17:32.000 Let me be very clear.

00:17:33.000 We are not a democracy.

00:17:34.000 We've never been a democracy, and I pray that we'll never be a democracy.

00:17:38.000 Now, that is a thought crime because people don't know anything about democracies.

00:17:45.000 We're a constitutional republic with certain democratic systems to be able to elect leaders.

00:17:49.000 What's the difference?

00:17:50.000 It's semantics, Charlie, or Nicole Hannah-Jones would say, no, no, no, we are a democracy.

00:17:50.000 Why does that matter?

00:17:54.000 Let me tell you what a democracy is.

00:17:56.000 It means if 51% of the room wanted to all of a sudden take the rights in the 49% of the room, they could do it.

00:18:02.000 A democracy is an up-or-down vote of what is good, true, and beautiful.

00:18:05.000 A constitutional republic makes truth claims and you must live to them.

00:18:09.000 And if you want to change them, you're going to need more than a 51% vote.

00:18:13.000 You're going to need a long, drawn-out process to change that.

00:18:17.000 A constitutional republic makes it intentionally difficult to be able to take your God-granted liberty away.

00:18:23.000 A democracy, you could do it in one session of a legislature.

00:18:27.000 It's one of the reasons why Europe just continually votes themselves into further oblivion.

00:18:32.000 The structure of what we've been given by the founding fathers is exceptional and unique.

00:18:36.000 Now, look, there's a lot of different directions I could continue to go with this.

00:18:39.000 And what I just articulated, unfortunately, is not being taught very well in our schools.

00:18:44.000 In fact, we are now seeing civilizational turning chaos happening, not because we don't just teach the Declaration, the Constitution, the Federalist Papers, and the founding, but instead, the deconstructionist ideology has seeped into every major institution, where now we have someone that is now a Supreme Court justice who cannot answer the question, what is a woman? 0.70

00:19:06.000 Katanji Brown Jackson was asked the question, what is a woman? 1.00

00:19:09.000 And she said, well, I don't know.

00:19:11.000 I'm not a biologist.

00:19:15.000 Now, I'm not a veterinarian.

00:19:17.000 I know a dog when I see one.

00:19:18.000 I'm not a meteorologist, and I know when it's raining.

00:19:20.000 And I'm not a biologist, and I can tell the difference between a man and a woman. 1.00

00:19:24.000 And we as Christians, and those of us that live, and those of us that live on team reality, must understand the broader game that's at play here.

00:19:34.000 And this is where Day Spring comes in so beautifully.

00:19:37.000 If you do not teach children that certain things are true, then where does it stop?

00:19:45.000 You have a Supreme Court justice that cannot give you a definitive answer of what is a man and a woman.

00:19:49.000 And guess what?

00:19:50.000 That is the furthest right now, and it will go even crazier, extrapolation of deconstructionist ideology.

00:19:58.000 It at every turn tries to make you doubt, question, and tear apart things that we know are fundamental to existence, that we know are essential to our survival.

00:20:11.000 You see that in the whole transgender movement. 1.00

00:20:14.000 You see that where all of a sudden we have the blurring of lines where, you know, Pennsylvania's own at University of Pennsylvania, the death of women's sports, where you had the man who thinks he's a woman all of a sudden be the 462nd best swimmer overnight transition to be a woman and win the NCAA championship.

00:20:35.000 Why would that not be wrong?

00:20:36.000 See, we as Christians have an answer.

00:20:39.000 We have two answers.

00:20:40.000 Number one, I want compassion for the person who thinks they're in the wrong body.

00:20:44.000 I want treatment for that person, and most importantly, I want their soul to be one for Christ.

00:20:48.000 But secondly, that doesn't mean we have to all of a sudden rearrange the rules of the game to allow cheating.

00:20:55.000 We as Christians believe cheating is wrong.

00:20:59.000 Both things can be simultaneously true because we as Christians and most societies are not able to articulate this, but the Bible tells us when you have strength, you are morally called.

00:21:11.000 In fact, you are required to protect the not as strong. 0.97

00:21:14.000 That's what we as Christians are called to do.

00:21:16.000 You see, in a pure Darwinistic secular view, why wouldn't it be wrong to terminate the child in the womb?

00:21:22.000 You're older, bigger, stronger.

00:21:22.000 It isn't.

00:21:25.000 Why wouldn't you allow the bigger, stronger man who thinks he's a woman win the NCAA championship? 1.00

00:21:30.000 You see, absent a biblical worldview, things that are taken for granted, things that we say that's not right, chaos.

00:21:38.000 And that's exactly what we're living through.

00:21:40.000 Why is there no wisdom in our society?

00:21:42.000 Well, it says very because there's no God in our society anymore.

00:21:46.000 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

00:21:48.000 That's why.

00:21:49.000 You want to know why we can't answer basic questions?

00:21:52.000 Absent a transcendent morality?

00:21:54.000 Who's going to tell you what to believe?

00:21:58.000 The person on MSNBC, Rachel Maddow?

00:22:02.000 Who's going to be the arbiter of moral truth?

00:22:04.000 Thankfully, for us Christians, we have the truth, and we know the truth will set people free.

00:22:09.000 But here it segues to now the final part of what I want to talk about here, which is why isn't it happening?

00:22:16.000 Well, it ties beautifully into the whole theme of tonight, which is courage.

00:22:21.000 George S. Patton, of whom I'm a big fan, famously said that moral courage is the most necessary yet absent characteristic in men.

00:22:31.000 Aristotle said that courage is the first virtue.

00:22:34.000 Without courage, there are no other virtues.

00:22:36.000 Now, courage is a very interesting thing.

00:22:38.000 I talk about it a lot.

00:22:40.000 We love supporting courage.

00:22:42.000 We love seeing courage.

00:22:45.000 When we witness courage, it's a beautiful sight.

00:22:47.000 So let's define it.

00:22:48.000 I'll give you a couple definitions of courage, technical definitions.

00:22:52.000 Courage is doing the right thing when you don't know how it's going to end up.

00:22:58.000 I want to say that again.

00:22:59.000 Courage is doing what is right when there is risk.

00:23:02.000 You cannot be courageous if there is no risk.

00:23:06.000 Just getting up and having a cup of coffee is not courageous, regardless of what your silly self-help Eastern meditation book tells you, okay?

00:23:14.000 It's an act of courage.

00:23:15.000 Actually, it's not.

00:23:17.000 It's an act of courage to do whatever.

00:23:20.000 No, courage is when a mom shows up at a school board meeting trembling in fear, knowing that she might be called every single name in the book to go say, you're not going to teach my kid who's seven years old that he can transition to be a woman and give him puberty blockers.

00:23:37.000 That's courage.

00:23:45.000 Courage is the pastor who decides to speak up for the unborn, even when he gets emails saying that I'm going to leave this church if you speak about this.

00:23:53.000 And he says, I'm going to do it anyway.

00:23:55.000 That's courage.

00:24:01.000 Courage is a very interesting thing because it requires no skill.

00:24:08.000 It's one of the only things in the world that anyone can do.

00:24:13.000 I want you to think about that.

00:24:15.000 You don't have to be strong, tall, fast, rich.

00:24:19.000 Anyone can do it.

00:24:20.000 This is why battlefield literature is so interesting to us, isn't it?

00:24:25.000 Because in the war literature, it's sometimes the least expected person that ends up being the most courageous.

00:24:31.000 The person you never would have expected that storms the beach and sacrifices his or her own life for something that is above themselves.

00:24:38.000 And that's the other part of courage, is that courage requires the proper alignment to what is good.

00:24:44.000 The most courageous acts are for things that are above yourself.

00:24:50.000 And so people ask me all the time, Charlie, what does it take to be courageous?

00:24:55.000 Well, God has not given us a spirit of fear, but instead of one of courage and a sound mind.

00:25:00.000 But it requires a choice.

00:25:02.000 Here's the cool thing: every single one of us today could decide to be courageous right now.

00:25:07.000 It doesn't take a class.

00:25:09.000 It doesn't take a training.

00:25:11.000 It doesn't take me to go through some sort of long type of thing saying, well, do this and do this.

00:25:15.000 You all know what you have to do.

00:25:17.000 And here's how.

00:25:19.000 Whatever you know you want to do, that you've been trying not to think about that makes you nervous.

00:25:23.000 That's the thing you have to do.

00:25:26.000 It's that simple and it's different for everybody.

00:25:30.000 The courageous act requires risk.

00:25:32.000 It could be admitting to a friend that you've been talking bad to them about their back.

00:25:35.000 That is courageous, because you don't know how it's going to work out.

00:25:38.000 It could be running for office, it could be homeschooling your child, but generally, the type of courage that is most missing in our country is standing up to the bully.

00:25:48.000 What's been missing is that for the last two years, we've seen the not so gradual erosion of our God-granted freedoms and liberties in a way that I never would have imagined so well, how do you stop it?

00:25:48.000 That's.

00:26:00.000 Well, courage begets courage.

00:26:01.000 Courage is contagious, which was said previously, but it requires someone with the risk to go, require to go up against someone that currently has power over them.

00:26:10.000 Could be a county supervisor, could be a school board member, it could be a boss and, mind you, it might not go out the way you want it to.

00:26:19.000 But it was beautifully said previously and I totally agree, liberty is only protected by the courageous.

00:26:27.000 You cannot have liberty if you do not have courage, and courage is very difficult to have without faith, but it requires that in action.

00:26:36.000 So we look around.

00:26:37.000 Right now, at our country, we have a courage crisis, don't we?

00:26:41.000 My goodness?

00:26:42.000 It's so hard to find the courageous, but they're starting to bubble up.

00:26:46.000 I'm starting to see more parents say i've had enough, i'm.

00:26:49.000 I'm starting to see more pastors say I've had enough.

00:26:52.000 I'm starting to all of a sudden see people realize that they are in a bitter fight up against those that wish to destroy the Republic, destroy their family, and destroy the way of life as they've known it.

00:27:03.000 And courage also requires a dedication and an understanding that you'll do what you could do and you'll leave the rest up to God.

00:27:11.000 It requires a humility.

00:27:12.000 It's rooted in the action of courage.

00:27:17.000 Look, everybody, I know you love freedom and you want to defend it.

00:27:20.000 And I know you love the Constitution.

00:27:22.000 It's a beautiful document, and so do I.

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00:28:39.000 And so people all the time ask me, Charlie, what do I do?

00:28:44.000 Things are falling apart in our country.

00:28:47.000 Things are not going well.

00:28:48.000 I get this question all the time.

00:28:50.000 I know a lot of you have done everything that has been asked of you.

00:28:54.000 You've watched Tucker Carlson.

00:28:57.000 You've bought the pillow.

00:28:58.000 You've done everything that has been asked of you.

00:29:04.000 You bought that weird chair that goes up the stairs.

00:29:07.000 You've reverse mortgaged your home.

00:29:09.000 You got more silver than you know what to do with.

00:29:11.000 You've done everything that's been asked of you.

00:29:16.000 Those aren't courageous acts.

00:29:19.000 Side of the reverse mortgage actually being a scam, there's not a lot of risk in that.

00:29:24.000 Now, what does one do when you feel helpless?

00:29:27.000 Well, that's what Day Spring is already doing.

00:29:29.000 They're looking intergenerationally.

00:29:32.000 We've got to start watering the tree from the bottom up.

00:29:35.000 We've got to start looking that our great hope will be this next generation that will have lived through this attempt to terrorize and implement tyranny at a high level, and they're not going to let it happen.

00:29:49.000 A proper alignment and understanding.

00:29:53.000 An unintended consequence, what man will use for evil, the enemy will use for evil, God will use for good of this awful chapter that we've lived through is all of a sudden we've seen homeschooling quadruple in the last couple years.

00:30:03.000 We're seeing dinners like this get at full capacity because you know there's something not right and you want to do something about it.

00:30:10.000 And you're rather disgusted, impatient with people that don't know any better telling you that you live in a racist country.

00:30:17.000 We're the least racist country ever to exist in the history of the world.

00:30:21.000 More people of more countries of backgrounds have come to this country and flourished than any other place on the planet, most racist country in the world.

00:30:28.000 Show me another multiracial country that's able to flourish and have peace, relative peace, like we do.

00:30:35.000 It's an exceptional nation.

00:30:37.000 Instead, all of you feel that there's a stirring happening in America and you're wondering, what can I do?

00:30:44.000 Well, learning is helpful.

00:30:46.000 Learning where you come from, but also teaching.

00:30:49.000 I believe that there will be, starting at this period of time, a revival from the bottom up, an awakening, an enlightenment, whatever you want to call it, where all of a sudden there will be a reference point of a generation that will be so committed to these ideas that the opposition will not understand where it's coming from, where they'll be blown away by the passion, the precision, the understanding, and the wisdom of a generation that very well had every reason to give up and be cynical.

00:31:18.000 And that's where Day Spring comes in, and that's where the work we at Turning Point USA do every single day comes in.

00:31:24.000 And so I'll close with this because I'm very precise with time, as I promised I would be.

00:31:30.000 The country's in trouble.

00:31:32.000 All right.

00:31:34.000 However, I believe that there is momentum.

00:31:37.000 I'm starting to see the rise of the citizen against the regime.

00:31:42.000 I'm starting to see people that have never been engaged and involved at every corner start to take back what is theirs because the founding fathers gave you ownership of the country.

00:31:53.000 They work for us.

00:31:55.000 We do not work for them.

00:31:58.000 I'm starting to see a revival of self-government.

00:32:02.000 I'm starting to see people ask questions of the tyrants and say, I'm going to remove you.

00:32:08.000 I'm starting to see all of a sudden people in leadership challenge the unchallengeable defunding Disney's special tax privileges in Florida being one of them.

00:32:23.000 But it all comes down to this: the greatest man to live in the 20th century was a man by the name of Winston Churchill.

00:32:31.000 The West would not exist in its current form without Churchill.

00:32:34.000 I firmly believe that.

00:32:36.000 Churchill was the only man that was smiling the morning after Pearl Harbor.

00:32:41.000 He walked into his war cabinet meeting with a cigar and a cup of whiskey.

00:32:48.000 It was in the morning, remember, and everyone was very sullen, and sad and downtrodden.

00:32:56.000 Churchill was extra chipper that morning, and he goes into the war cabinet meeting and proclaims, We have won the war.

00:33:04.000 And they look at him and they say, What?

00:33:07.000 He says, We've won the war, gents. 1.00

00:33:09.000 And some brave soul decides to question the prime minister and stands up and says, What do you mean we've won the war?

00:33:16.000 The Nazis are bombing London every night.

00:33:18.000 We can't keep the Royal Air Force going.

00:33:21.000 We barely got our troops out of Dunkirk.

00:33:23.000 We have no plan to get near Europe, let alone protect the homeland.

00:33:27.000 And national morale is breaking, and there's calls for your resignation.

00:33:31.000 What do you mean we've won the war?

00:33:34.000 Silence filled the room.

00:33:36.000 And Churchill took a puff of his cigar and a sip of whiskey and he looked at his war cabinet and said, Ah, over the last couple decades, I've got to know the Americans.

00:33:47.000 And let me tell you, that beast has been awakened and the war is over.

00:33:53.000 And let me tell you this, everybody: when we awaken as Americans, nothing can stop us with faith, courage, and the fight for liberty.

00:34:01.000 God bless you guys.

00:34:02.000 Thank you so much.

00:34:08.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:10.000 Email me your thoughts.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 31, 2022

Nikole Hannah-Jones vs. Charlie Kirk: Two Diametrically Opposed Visions for America LIVE from Lancaster, PA

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