In this episode of the CharlieKirkShow, host Charlie Kirk and his co-host Alex Blumberg discuss the sudden departure of Homeland Security Secretary Kirsty Noam, her replacement, Mark Wayne Mullen, and the implications for the future of the agency.
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00:01:28.000Anyways, it's March 6th, 2026, here in Phoenix, Arizona.
00:01:33.000So the yesterday show was quite the wild ride, especially in hour one.
00:01:39.000We talked about how young people were skeptical of the war effort, or whatever we're calling it, a strike against Iran, a decapitation effort.
00:01:48.000And then we went into Christy Noam, and we were pretty blunt.
00:01:52.000We were upset about some of the contracting decisions.
00:01:57.000We were upset about her questioning with Senator Kennedy, where she claimed that President Trump was aware of some of these contracting decisions and spending decisions, especially when it came to marketing that featured her prominently.
00:02:09.000And by hour two, Secretary Noam was out at DHS, and that was a huge, huge shockwave felt across the country.
00:02:19.000First cabinet reshuffle of much more stable cabinet overall.
00:02:27.000He placed her, he didn't fire her all the way from DHS, certainly, but he's put her in a new role, which is fine, I guess.
00:02:35.000So the next thing we need to talk about is who's going to be taking over for Christy Noam, and that is Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who's been a frequent guest on this show.
00:02:46.000Now, here's, we want to lay out the stakes for you so that everybody understands properly the dynamics.
00:02:53.000Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is one of the most liked senators, especially on the Republican side of the aisle within Washington.
00:03:46.000Because say what you will about Christy Noam, the same type of woman that is willing to shoot her dog is not going to be as, let's say, vulnerable to emotional appeals.
00:04:00.000She was going to be ruthless when it came to deportations.
00:04:04.000Here is the trade that you make when you are ruthless.
00:04:09.000You're not going to get cooperation from blue states.
00:04:11.000They're going to dig their heels in and they're going to fight you with everything they've got.
00:04:14.000And that's what we saw with Christy Noam's approach.
00:04:17.000And you kind of see this play out in Minneapolis.
00:04:20.000So we have this huge uproar, Renee Goode, Alex Predi, and people digging their heels in.
00:04:40.000And the jails and the prisons and the counties and even Minneapolis start cooperating with ICE, giving over criminal illegals with detention requests.
00:04:53.000But we have to be, there's going to be a little bit of a skirmish here because with any change of the person at the top, there's an opportunity.
00:05:03.000And there are definitely going to be people who approach the president, approach the president's aides, and they say, you know, Christy Noam, she had a lot of these problems because she was so tough.
00:05:15.000Some people think it's time to head towards the middle a little bit and they'll try to sell the administration, oh, this is a time to pivot towards the middle on immigration, maybe dial back the ICE stuff, dial back deportations, dial back enforcement stuff.
00:05:31.000And, you know, this is your chance to do it.
00:05:37.000There will be this siren call to soften up.
00:05:42.000And I think the administration's got to resist this.
00:05:44.000This is the president's signature promise and his signature success of his term so far is the effort, not just that he's secured the border, but there's a bunch of other things he's done.
00:05:54.000They've cut the number of H-1B visas that are being granted.
00:05:57.000They've cut the number of foreign students.
00:06:00.000The overall foreign population of the U.S. is going down.
00:06:03.000They've basically stalled visas from a lot of countries.
00:06:06.000From dozens, I think 70 countries have a visa pause right now.
00:07:38.000I actually think that, listen, I'm skeptical of what we're doing in Iran, but once we press go, we have our presidents back, we have our troops back.
00:07:47.000And I do think that there is an America First angle here, and I think you could message on it.
00:07:52.000I think that you could make that case.
00:07:54.000But DHS is central to the America First promise, reason why President Trump was elected in the first place.
00:08:01.000And this is the moment to seize that mantle and to make sure that we drive it home.
00:08:07.000So this is not a time to listen to the voices that would tell President Trump and this administration to go soft, to get weak in the knees, to cede ground to the radical left and the activist base.
00:08:22.000And this is why I think Mark Wayne Mullen could be potentially incredibly successful at DHS.
00:08:27.000DHS is really good, as our guest said yesterday, when there's no drama, there's commas, meaning we want millions out.
00:08:35.000The way you get no drama is you have a guy like Mark Wayne Mullen who can reach across the aisle, calm people's fears, put on an affable, congenial face to it, stay out of the headlines, and just get the work done.
00:08:47.000If we start getting prison transfers of criminals that have already been taken off the streets by local police departments and they get deported seamlessly, easily with just a few agents, not these raids all the time, that's going to be really key.
00:09:02.000And the next key, employment enforcement.
00:09:20.000A lot of you in the audience seem to be skeptical that he's tough enough, that he's got the intestinal fortitude and the internal constitution to stand up against the attacks so he doesn't use the parlance of our day cuckout.
00:09:34.000So send us your emails, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:10:38.000I want to draw attention really quick to this story.
00:10:43.000We were going to get to it yesterday, but things got away on us.
00:10:47.000But the House voted on basically whether or not they were going to release ethics complaint about sexual misconduct against its own members.
00:10:55.000It's very funny how this goes because, of course, Congress has spent several months ripping itself apart over the files of Mr. Epstein and really blasting that all out there, which, as the president warned, a lot of people are going to have like baseless allegations about them published, not just actual embarrassing stuff, but just stuff where people, you know, insane people were making claims about this because it was such a big story.
00:11:22.000You'd have cranks contacting the FBI and that stuff's gone out.
00:11:26.000But there was a vote that I think Nancy Mace was demanding in the House where there is an ethics committee in the House and it investigates claims of sexual misconduct by members.
00:11:59.000There were 38 Republicans and 27 Democrats voted in favor.
00:12:02.000So it wasn't even partisan in who the minority was.
00:12:05.000Yeah, some of the Republicans that voted to release, and we should say, it would be Andy Biggs, Bobert from Colorado, Burchett from Tennessee.
00:13:17.000I don't think Congress should be investigating claims related to affairs of its members.
00:13:23.000If you are a victim of harassment, if someone is extorting you or committing some sort of crime, you should report it to the police or you should sue them for it.
00:13:33.000But what we see in Congress is the same thing we see in universities, which when you have these para, you know, these quasi-courts, they're a way to shake people down.
00:13:43.000They're a way to sort of harangue people.
00:13:47.000They're a way to escalate personal drama into affairs of state.
00:13:50.000But it's different because Congress actually has a fund established to pay out these.
00:14:46.000But I think the standard should be things should either be in the open court of law, something that is, you get sued over this, you get prosecuted over this, or it should be a private matter.
00:14:57.000We don't, it's weird to have these extrajudicial tribunals of this sort.
00:15:02.000And I don't like them in college campuses.
00:15:05.000Companies do this now where, oh, someone has, you know, a relationship with an employee and then these HR apparatuses investigating this.
00:15:13.000Just, no, this didn't exist when America was a great country 70 years ago.
00:15:18.000You had the courts and you had private life.
00:15:21.000And I don't want to mingle the two as much as we can.
00:15:23.000You can understand some of the folks in the audience who probably feel frustrated with that answer simply because of the hypocrisy of it all.
00:15:30.000You've got, I mean, I will say Roe Connan, Thomas Massey, Nancy May, some of the loudest members on the Epstein stuff, we're all voted in favor of releasing it.
00:15:38.000But the House did vote, what was it, you said 400 and something to one to release the Epstein documents and the transparency discharge.
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00:18:11.000And you could take a Tucker description of his opposition and graft a bunch of it onto a Bernie Sanders description, and it would look a lot alike.
00:18:21.000This is not a partisan issue as much as it is an attitude about America's role in the world.
00:18:30.000I think people shouldn't shy away from the reality that there are people within both parties who disagree about whether this is a good idea.
00:18:37.000And I think it should be less about personality and fighting and more about get on the national town square and explain your position.
00:18:46.000I think the president, I talked about this on Next Up last week.
00:18:49.000I don't think the why and the why now are ambiguous.
00:18:52.000And it frustrates me that people want to spend time debating the why and the why now.
00:18:56.000I think there are lots of debates to have: Congress's role, the endgame, regime change, how much it costs, the risks.
00:19:04.000But I don't think we need to debate why and why now.
00:19:06.000I think the president and Caroline Levitt have made that pretty clear.
00:19:09.000Yeah, I actually was on with Chris Cuomo on his show last night, and I said, hey, originally, I was very much in the camp that this has not been properly sold to the American people.
00:19:31.000But we had a nuclear scientist on the show yesterday who said basically it's the same amount of time going from 0 to 5% enrichment as it is 60 to 90.
00:19:40.000I mean, it ramps up very quickly how fast you can get it there.
00:19:43.000And so, I mean, listen, there's a lot of reasons I think that this can make sense from a national security perspective, from a geopolitical perspective.
00:19:51.000The truth, though, is that Trump could be 100% right from a national security perspective and an American first perspective, but it could be politically costly.
00:20:35.000Now we're told 100 days, maybe through September.
00:20:38.000That seems to be the central question of how do you get out?
00:20:42.000As this thing drags on, I think that's where the political fallout is going to be felt most sharply, especially as we close into the midterms.
00:20:56.000What do you think is working when the Democrats are attacking it?
00:20:59.000What do you think is working when the admin supports it?
00:21:02.000Well, first, I know you guys must do this all the time, but I really do wonder what would have happened if the president had called Charlie last week and said, hey, I'm thinking of doing this.
00:21:11.000What he would have said, and then what he would have said if the president hadn't agreed with his advice, but had done it anyway, assuming that might have been his advice.
00:21:18.000I really do wonder, because as we all know, he was singular in thinking about these things from all dimensions.
00:21:23.000And I don't think he would have been exactly where Tucker is or exactly where the vice president is, but I do wonder where he would have been on this.
00:21:30.000Look, I think the politics overlap with the substance, but the substance is most important, and the politics will flow from that.
00:21:37.000If this is successful, then I think it will help Republicans, although it may not save their majorities in Congress in the midterms.
00:21:44.000The Democrats, it really surprises me, even given how much they dislike the president, how polarized things are, it surprises me how far out they are in just emphasizing the negatives about this and not even sometimes even paying homage to the extraordinary performance of the U.S. military and the boldness of this.
00:22:03.000We've had decades of all presidents saying Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.
00:22:08.000Is it intolerable that Iran is developing ballistic, intercontinental ballistic missiles?
00:22:13.000It's intolerable that Iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism around the world.
00:22:17.000Other presidents felt the same way about President Trump.
00:22:19.000Not just that it was a bad thing, but that it was an intolerable thing.
00:22:23.000And yet Donald Trump's the one who's done something about it.
00:22:26.000Now, there are extraordinary risks, and you've put your finger on for most Republicans who are worried about the election is the critical factor.
00:22:36.000And I believe that the president could stop now, right?
00:22:41.000There's nothing, there's no factor that keeps the president, except for maybe fighting with Netanyahu about it, from saying, hey, we degraded on the fronts we wanted to, missile, technology, naval capacity, nuclear development, and terror sponsorship.
00:23:03.000We're going to come back home and warn the Iranians that if they continue on those fronts to try to rebuild, we'll do it again.
00:23:09.000Or he can keep going and further degrading all four and hope that there becomes an opportunity for the Iranian people to rise up.
00:23:16.000So I think people who are worried that this is a quagmire or too much money or an endless war, I think are underestimating the flexibility the president has here to, if he wants to for substantive and or political purposes, to just end it.
00:23:30.000Well, I've heard that take, but do you think that holds up now that Iran has taken this sort of lash out approach where they are shooting missiles at Dubai?
00:23:43.000We've had things popping up in Azerbaijan, Jordan, Cyprus even, that actually the president is sort of stuck as long as that's going on because he has so many of these relationships with Middle Eastern countries and he can't abandon all of them at once.
00:23:58.000Well, I hear what you're saying, but if you believe the American military, and it's right, if you've got my profession, to be skeptical of what the government says during war, especially during war when governments historically don't always tell the truth, they can keep going and continue to degrade those things.
00:24:14.000So could they stop if Iran still had capacity to send missiles or drones into other countries?
00:24:22.000But if you look at the data of how many attacks they've engaged in in the last 24 hours versus the first 48 hours, it appears the Pentagon's telling the truth, that they've diminished their capacity.
00:24:34.000So can they make it so Iran can never hit an American ally ever again?
00:24:38.000No, but they can degrade it pretty substantially, it appears.
00:24:42.000And again, that could be a natural stopping point, even if we know little about whether whoever is governing Iran now will be any better for the world and for the Iranian people than what was there before the conflict began.
00:24:55.000Yeah, and Mark, you're very good at looking at things dispassionately.
00:25:01.000You know, we're hardened partisans over here, obviously.
00:25:04.000But, you know, the question that has sort of emerged in this conflict is how much of our immediate skepticism was rooted in muscle memory, scar tissue from Iraq, from Afghanistan.
00:25:19.000There is a countervailing sense that President Trump is really the first president that's really unleashed our military to just be completely lethal and precise.
00:25:32.000We're not tying their feet here in their hands.
00:25:35.000So, I mean, when you talk about we could actually do this relatively quickly, I mean, when you look at this, you're looking at the data, you're looking at how precise and lethal they're being.
00:25:46.000This really could be a new model, even in a country as big as Iran.
00:25:55.000No, I think it's full use of force, but not boots on the ground.
00:26:00.000And no one's talking about building schools and hospitals in Tehran.
00:26:04.000So if you stay away from troops on the ground, he's boots on the ground, you stay away from nation building, and you stay away from being responsible for the new government, although the president yesterday suggested he was responsible for it, or at least he'd like to be.
00:26:18.000If you stay away from responsibility in those three areas, this is a new paradigm.
00:26:22.000And I find it amusing when people say there's never been a regime change forced by air power.
00:26:30.000Well, there's two things I think wrong with that.
00:26:31.000One is regime change doesn't have to happen for this to be a success.
00:26:35.000And number two, we've never had air power like we have now, particularly with drones, but also the sophistication and lethality of America's air power from sea land and air.
00:26:44.000So I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually what the president's brand on these things stand for, well executed, which is overwhelming force mitigating the problems that have occurred in previous forever wars that he's still against and his constituents are against.
00:27:02.000Yeah, and you got to remember, like, the reason we were even thinking in these terms, the reason Charlie became so clear-eyed in these terms is because President Trump sort of pioneered that, you know, Iraq was a dumb war, right?
00:27:13.000I mean, he said that from the debate standards.
00:28:51.000They had made enemies for most of the year, including among some of the most important and impressive and powerful members of the Trump team.
00:29:01.000So Their capacity to stay in the positions as long as they did is quite an achievement.
00:29:08.000And at the same time, that's so harsh.
00:29:23.000But again, I go back to the politics needs, you know, talking about these things, I think I say respectfully, and in the real lives of real people, the politics needs to follow from the substance.
00:29:33.000She was involved in helping control the border.
00:29:36.000That's one of the greatest achievements of this president.
00:29:41.000But you can't go to Congress under oath and say the president signed off on something he didn't sign off on.
00:29:48.000That's a no-brainer in terms of a fireable offense.
00:29:51.000At the same time, she did about a dozen other things that in a normal president and a normal cabinet member would have put her on at least the nice.
00:29:58.000So I just think as an American, we need this department to be run really well and without this level of controversy.
00:30:09.000So I have sort of been hearing whispers, Mark.
00:30:13.000I'm curious if you've heard the same whispers.
00:30:16.000I'll let you react to them in whichever order you want.
00:30:18.000Democrats were already planning impeachment proceedings using and leveraging some of this.
00:30:23.000This, that, when she said Trump was, you know, he had approved some of these contracts, these no big contracts, things like that, when he hadn't.
00:30:32.000Secondly, I am concerned moving forward about what, let's just say, softness might come out of the DHS.
00:30:41.000I like Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, but I'm concerned that he's going to be offering up negotiating pieces that might be, let's say, unsavory for the base that wants to see, you know, everybody deported, all illegals deported.
00:30:55.000Take those in whichever order you want, but he's going to try and get blue states to cooperate, just like we've seen in Minneapolis.
00:31:02.000And I'm just concerned about the negotiation process there.
00:31:05.000Between Secretary Mullen and Democrats?
00:31:10.000First of all, I feel, you know, usually I treat stuff that's said during the break as private, but I do feel duty-bound to tell the listeners and the viewers that during the break, Blake said that he could kick Mark Wayne Mullen's ass.
00:32:02.000Senators tend to be more inclined to vote for other senators.
00:32:05.000And he's widely considered one of the nicest members of the Congress.
00:32:09.000So fresh start and a possibility to keep up the policies that are popular and consistent with the president's agenda and his pledge as a candidate, and to maybe win over some Democratic support, which would be good for everybody.
00:32:23.000It'd be good politically for the Republicans, I think, but it'd be good for the country.
00:32:28.000The president and Tom Homans doesn't appear to be going, so we'll have to see what that relationship's like.
00:32:33.000But the president has a pretty robust agenda about deportation that I think would win broad support.
00:32:38.000Maybe not amongst the squad, but a lot of Democrats would support it.
00:32:42.000He still has to deal, and this will be part of what Secretary Mullen has to address: what about cracking down on employers?
00:32:49.000What about deporting people who are in the country legally but haven't been convicted of other crimes?
00:32:56.000What exactly is the next three years look like in terms of who gets deported?
00:33:00.000But a fresh start is a good thing because whether she would have been impeached or not, I don't know.
00:33:06.000I think the Democrats are going to have to think long and hard about how much they want to talk about impeachment now and how much they want to address it if they do win the majority.
00:33:15.000But I don't pay much attention to it because if they impeached everybody who they talked about impeaching, it's all they would do.
00:33:22.000And I don't think they would want to use their newfound majority to just run a bunch of impeachment probes.
00:33:26.000So to dig one level deeper, let's just say DACA, let's say amnesty of some sort, let's say more work visa, whatever the offering is.
00:33:40.000What I'm trying to get at here, Mark, is I am an all, they all need to go guy, right?
00:33:45.000You hear this kind of bifurcation within the messaging that the worst first, we want to get the criminals, and then there's the base, which a lot of us are, a lot of them are like me.
00:33:56.000And what I'm trying to calibrate with you dispassionately, so take you're not in MAGA, you're kind of sitting outside of it.
00:34:05.000What would you brace us for accepting if we're going to get Blue City sanctuary cities to cooperate and hand over their criminals at jails?
00:34:20.000Well, you're on the wrong side of public opinion on that question, as I know you know.
00:34:25.000And there's a practical, a practical reality.
00:34:29.000You know, I used to ask people before MAGA, back in like 20, you know, 2012, 2016, before the president won the nomination, what do you want to do with the 15 million or so who are here illegally?
00:34:42.000And most politicians in the Republican Party wouldn't answer the question because they know not just what a heavy lift it is and how expensive it would be on the front end, but a lot of those people are integral to the economy, particularly in two sectors.
00:34:55.000The president has a lot of friends who are owners of hospitality and agriculture.
00:35:00.000So, if you guys want to take the president on on deporting people who work in agriculture and hospitality, go at it.
00:35:07.000But I don't think he has any intention of doing that because every time it comes up, some of his friends in hospitality and ag call him and say, you'd put us out of business.
00:37:30.000But Mullen, over the years, Charlie would make mention about his concerns with certain people.
00:37:38.000But he says he's worried that Mark Wayne might say whatever he needs to ingratiate himself because we know Charlie had Mark Wayne on a lot.
00:38:26.000In the past years, he verbally attacked Matt Gates long before Matt was proposed as AG, but I hope he proves me wrong, and I trust President Trump implicitly.
00:38:36.000So, like I said, a lot of prove it sort of attitude, which that's why we said the administration's got to make sure that they don't go for, they don't fall for the siren call to soften up on immigration just because Noam is out.
00:39:19.000So unfortunately, I've lost a few close family members in this last year.
00:39:23.000And then, of course, with losing Charlie as well.
00:39:26.000I know they believed in Jesus and they're in heaven now, but with all of the grief, my question to you guys is, I know all of you have different opinions on faith, but what are some ways that you have all strengthened your faith through dealing with the grief?
00:39:42.000I mean, our situation is so unique in the sense that we found ourselves at the middle of this really global news story.
00:39:53.000And I said it a bunch of times, and I'll say it again because it bears repeating.
00:39:57.000I was sustained by the prayers of strangers.
00:39:59.000Obviously, I had a ton of people praying for me and for us and for the organization, for Erica that we knew, but a lot, we just had so many people.
00:40:08.000I've got a mountain of mail in the office here, actually, that Riley's just looking through.
00:40:13.000And it's like the third wave that has come to me because they hold it in our shipment area until they can check it out.
00:40:21.000And then it comes to me and it's just this mountain of people saying, we're praying for you and we love you and we have your back.
00:40:28.000I genuinely could feel the prayers of strangers.
00:40:31.000And all of a sudden, it was kind of, it was almost like a road to Damascus moment for me even when I, after Charlie was assassinated, I realized, you know, so many days we were just hunkered down working so hard, just trying to save the country, trying to get President Trump elected, whatever, build the show.
00:40:50.000And all of a sudden, Charlie was gone.
00:40:53.000And I realized, looking back, you know, and I said this at the memorial, that I realized Charlie, we called them campus tour stops and prove me wrongs, but they were really tent revivals, you know.
00:41:03.000And I saw that Charlie wasn't just a political activist.
00:41:24.000And you can just feel the Holy Spirit in that moment.
00:41:28.000I could feel the Holy Spirit in and around us and in and around what was happening and in and around the vigils and everything we saw at the memorial.
00:41:37.000It was such a tangible manifestation of the presence of God for me personally, but for the country.
00:41:45.000And when you have those moments, it's important to remember them because, you know, they're clarifying moments.
00:41:53.000And if you look into scriptures, the stories of the great people in the Bible, they had these moments of beautiful vision and then the vision would get clouded.
00:42:01.000And so, and that's just what happens in life.
00:42:04.000God gives you a revelation and then that revelation is challenged and the vision gets cloudy.
00:42:09.000And so I hold that with that memorial in my heart deeply and closely.
00:42:12.000And I hold those moments of just the tangible presence of God in and around us closely.
00:42:17.000And I remember it because I truly believe what God has unleashed, man cannot stop.
00:42:22.000And I believe God is active in our midst.
00:42:40.000I don't know about you, Danny, but I find myself reflecting on those moments.
00:42:42.000Danny spent a lot of time with Charlie in private.
00:42:44.000Yeah, I think what I've been doing a lot is just like praying, reading the Bible, as Charlie would say, is very important and just staying grounded in your beliefs and really just taking time and just reading scripture instead of just listening to everything online and everything like that.
00:43:00.000And I think that's really helped just sticking true to my beliefs and God's word.
00:43:05.000Yeah, this is one of Charlie, one of Charlie's better takes that he repeated on here a lot is that faith is a practice.
00:43:14.000And so I like that you say, how do you cultivate it daily?
00:43:16.000Well, are you doing a faith-related thing daily?
00:43:18.000Because that is how you will cultivate it daily.
00:43:20.000I think some this is going to be a weird comparison, but I remember when I started lifting weights, a friend of mine pointed out a lot of people would go online and they would obsess over like, what's the right regimen of weights to do?
00:45:21.000And, you know, we're in the break here, so Rav isn't necessarily catching it.
00:45:25.000But my first instinct was that the show was never going to go on and that we were going to just have to let everybody go and nobody was going to have a job.
00:45:34.000And Erica looked at me and she said, they tried to silence my husband's voice, and we can't let them do that.
00:47:06.000If Ellie needs church recommendations, I'm happy to help.
00:47:09.000So, Ellie, if you need church recommendations, email us at freedom at charliekirk.com and I'll connect you with my buddy over at Hillsdale.
00:47:28.000So, many conservatives I know want this strict enforcement on immigration, but I feel like we should have some way to bring people in.
00:47:38.000For example, maybe we could, if someone's paid their taxes consistently and had no crimes for the past five years, they could apply for citizenship and be forgiven for the illegal entry.
00:47:51.000Or, like my father, who came over after World War II, he had a sponsor who was financially responsible for him until he met criteria like language proficiency, employment, and good conduct.
00:48:07.000So, do you think it has to be zero tolerance, or shouldn't we find a way through to these people who are good of heart who just need to be here for other reasons, you know, than crime?
00:48:19.000Bluntly, so, first of all, in practice, we may end up with some sort of compromise like that.
00:48:26.000But my personal opinion is we should fight pretty hard for zero tolerance because we've gone through this routine multiple times.
00:48:36.000And I'll be frank, I think a lot of good intentions like yours that you express have been taken advantage of.
00:48:42.000So, as an example, as you say, be responsible until they show language proficiency.
00:48:48.000Well, you're already supposed to have language proficiency in America, for example, to become a citizen, to get things like those truck driving licenses.
00:48:56.000And as we see, we just hand them out anyway.
00:48:59.000A friend of mine who did become a naturalized citizen, he was at the, you know, he went there and he was observing the checks they were doing.
00:49:08.000And he says the test for English proficiency was on the level Pointing at somebody's left hand and saying, raise your left hand.
00:49:15.000Well, okay, you're pointing at their hand.
00:49:17.000And okay, they hold up their hand because you're pointing at it.
00:49:30.000Well, okay, well, we have states already where because if you commit a crime result, like a felony is supposed to result in deportation, they deliberately lower the charges they bring against illegal immigrants to keep them in jail for less time, or they take a felony and make it a misdemeanor to make sure that a person is not deported.
00:49:50.000There's endless ways that this gets manipulated and used against us.
00:49:54.000And often they'll say, oh, this amnesty, it'll affect 500,000 people.
00:49:59.000And it'll end up being far more than that.
00:50:01.000Just in Spain, they said it'd be a few hundred thousand and it's going to be over a million.
00:50:05.000When we did this with Reagan in the 80s, it was supposed to be farm workers.
00:50:09.000It was going to be, I think, a few hundred thousand again.
00:50:12.000Critically, we were going to get enforcement as part of the deal.
00:53:08.000I mean, that's literally, they only changed it recently to add Middle Eastern and North African, and it's phasing in, but it'll take years and years and years for that to happen, right?
00:53:19.000So that's just one little tiny administrative thing that we can't get the needle to move on.
00:53:26.000I don't know how we're going to get the needle to move on something as big and large as immigration.
00:53:30.000Well, we've been moving the needle pretty well with this administration.
00:53:34.000We've been getting a lot of people out.
00:53:35.000And I think pushing hard that if you're here illegally, you'll go back is really the first step to any sort of amnesty.
00:53:40.000It has to be get the situation truly under control.
00:53:43.000But thank you very much for your question.
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00:55:34.000My wife and I are sitting here in Tulsa, and I'll tell you, we live half a mile from Senator Mullen.
00:55:40.000So I've got a question and maybe a couple comments if we have time.
00:55:44.000So I'm curious if you have any thoughts on who Governor Stitt might appoint to replace Senator Mullins.
00:55:51.000Well, some people are saying Governor Stitt might appoint Governor Stitt, but I hope that that doesn't happen, actually, because I think it's a little, it's not a good look.
00:56:01.000You know, they need to appoint somebody because, and they don't need to do a special runoff election because it's technically already an election year for the 2027 term.
00:56:48.000My guess is they would have to be able to run in the special.
00:56:51.000This gets a little complicated, but states can't really control who runs for their office past for federal office past a certain point.
00:57:01.000That's why term limits are not allowed on federal offices because the Supreme Court says eligibility is governed by the Constitution and there's just the age and citizenship requirements.
00:57:11.000So they might only be able to control special election, but not the general.
00:57:16.000Yeah, the Hill says that Beis and Hearn considering Senate runs to replace Mullen.
00:57:23.000So these are House Republicans from Oklahoma.
00:57:26.000You probably know this better, but I've met Stephanie Beiss before and then Kevin Hearn.
00:58:09.000So we have a lieutenant governor here, Matt Pennell, and he is a very conservative Christian, has four kids, went to a Christian school here in Tulsa, and then actually graduated from my alma mater, which is Oral Roberts University.
00:58:25.000So very conservative Christian, has done a great job as lieutenant governor of Oklahoma, and I think he would be a great option.
00:58:33.000But we do have that unusual law where whomever Governor Stitt appoints cannot run for the next election.
00:58:41.000And so I think potentially what Stitt's going to do is appoint someone more as a placeholder, maybe the second best choice, and then have someone like Lieutenant Governor Pinnell run.
00:58:54.000But, you know, Bise, Hearn, I've heard all of the same ones.
00:58:57.000But I think the key thing is we do not want another Lankford.
00:59:24.000But when it comes down to it, he will do what needs to be done and he will back up what he thinks needs to be done with words and deeds and actions.
00:59:33.000Well, that's coming from an Oklahoma voter there that lives just down the street from Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
01:00:08.000But yeah, I just wanted to, I had two questions, but my main one is, how can these people be saying they stand with the Ayatollah with their rainbow flags behind them when they're talking like those people like the Ayatollah and the Islamic regime would literally kill them if they even set foot in the country?
01:00:29.000I thought it was AI at first, but it's people are actually buying Iranian flags and trying to say they stood with the Ayatollah and that Trump was a bad person for it.
01:00:39.000Is it just Trump derangement syndrome or do they just hate Trump more than they hate murder?
01:00:53.000We call it kind of the Calibanism, which is an obscure reference to make, but there's a character in Shakespeare's The Tempest, Caliban.
01:01:02.000Like a savage, and he's trying to rebel against his master, and he's this cartoon figure.
01:01:07.000And he's become this symbol for third world academics, the kind of people who push literal critical race theory, post-colonial theory.
01:01:14.000And what I really think it is, is there's a type of person who pathologically genuinely hate the West, they hate its success, they hate its traditions, they hate everything about it.
01:01:27.000And as a result, they'll just end up bonding to everything that is against it, no matter how incoherent that is.
01:01:35.000And so sometimes that means embracing all of the most radical LGBT stuff because they're, of course, against Christianity.
01:01:45.000They're against traditional Western morality as it was understood for a long time.
01:01:50.000And so they want to tear all of that down from the left.
01:01:53.000But then, oh, well, we also have this Islamic Republic that hates the West and it wants to blow up Israel and it wants to flood Europe and Islamify it.
01:02:02.000And so we're going to side with that too, because it's also against the West.
01:02:05.000It is a true pan-ideological coalition of resentment, of hate of it's not quite nihilistic.
01:02:15.000Some of these have quite strong beliefs, but it's that what really does lie at the heart of so much of what drives them is resentment of what is beautiful.
01:07:36.000Because they know that they're just going to get re-elected.
01:07:38.000And that's a sad truth of California being a very radical state in many ways with many radical far-left districts.
01:07:46.000And they're just going to do the simple math and disregard you.
01:07:50.000I hate to be that blunt, but that's oftentimes as deep as they're thinking about it.
01:07:53.000It's never bad to make your voice heard.
01:07:55.000But in general, with contacting your representatives, it is sort of a proximity thing, which is you'll have the most impact if they are your representative.
01:08:03.000And then if you're in their state, they'll maybe kind of hear it because, you know, they have aspirations to run for Senate or something.
01:08:09.000And then if you're from across the country, it's just going to matter less.
01:08:13.000But sometimes you just call in and you'll still shape the sentiment maybe on a controversial issue.
01:08:18.000And their staff are going to tell their members, oh, yeah, we've been getting tons of calls on this issue, and they think XYZ.
01:08:25.000But there's other ways to get involved.
01:08:28.000If you're concerned about political stuff, there's show up at town halls, show up at your local city council events, show up where you can make your voice heard in other ways.
01:10:31.000And what other expectations should we set, excuse me, should we set for Senator Mullen as he goes into the cabinet?
01:10:39.000Well, so I'd love to see a million a year.
01:10:41.000Yeah, so Charlie's thing was Project 10 million, right?
01:10:44.000So just so you know, that right now, DHS is operating with a 3,000 arrest quota a day, 3,000.
01:10:51.000So that would take you to 1 million, basically 1,100,000, if you would.
01:10:59.000So that's a benchmark that they're shooting for.
01:11:04.000Now, there's an argument to be made that you should get rid of the quota because you actually might get more.
01:11:10.000The argument is that the quota system basically mandates that these guys are having to go out into the community and raid local businesses, raid whatever.
01:11:19.000And people, that tends to be where a lot of the drama is happening.
01:11:23.000And there's another theory of the case that you could do it more discreetly.
01:11:28.000And again, this expression, maybe it's just an expression, but commas, meaning millions, not drama, comma, not drama.
01:11:36.000So, you know, the theory is that you could go in, work with local municipalities if you sort of take that quota system off the table and end up with a bigger number at the end of the year.
01:11:49.000What I can tell you is that here's why I feel bullish on this whole thing.
01:11:54.000Stephen Miller is still operating at the White House.
01:11:59.000He's still lurking in the shadows, haunting all the Democrats' dreams.
01:12:02.000And I'm telling you, it's wonderful because he's going to be working directly with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.
01:12:08.000He is the architect of this interior enforcement in many ways.
01:12:12.000And he has, through the One Big Beautiful bill, this funding has created a whole system.
01:12:18.000You got to understand, when Obama was getting all these numbers, it was just handoff at the local jail.
01:12:23.000We have never equipped ICE agents to go out in the field like we have equipped them now to do this interior enforcement.
01:12:28.000We've never had this large of a wave of illegals come in before.
01:12:32.000And so, yes, there's going to be a change in leadership, and there's going to be probably a change in tone, a change in collegiality, and all of these things, which could be really helpful.
01:12:41.000We saw this with Homan, Tom Homan, in Minneapolis.
01:12:46.000But ultimately, you have to maintain a posture that everybody who's here illegally is on the table to be deported and that we are going to be working with Stephen Miller, the architect of the interior enforcement, to get over a million a year.
01:13:01.000Plus, you're going to get self-deportations.
01:13:38.000And if Mark Wayne Mullen comes in and says, I'm not going to be making myself famous, except as the bane of the left's existence, I'll be very happy with that outcome.