The Charlie Kirk Show - No Squishing on the Border! + AMA 256

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00:01:09.000 All right.

00:01:10.000 Yesterday, some of you were.

00:01:14.000 They were spirited defenders of the president.

00:01:16.000 You were a little worried about us.

00:01:19.000 And I, you know, I'm just going to say we totally redeemed ourselves.

00:01:22.000 I'm just going to stand up for ourselves.

00:01:24.000 Blake's even suspicious of that allegation.

00:01:24.000 We did.

00:01:28.000 Anyways, it's March 6th, 2026, here in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:01:33.000 So the yesterday show was quite the wild ride, especially in hour one.

00:01:39.000 We talked about how young people were skeptical of the war effort, or whatever we're calling it, a strike against Iran, a decapitation effort.

00:01:48.000 And then we went into Christy Noam, and we were pretty blunt.

00:01:52.000 We were upset about some of the contracting decisions.

00:01:57.000 We were upset about her questioning with Senator Kennedy, where she claimed that President Trump was aware of some of these contracting decisions and spending decisions, especially when it came to marketing that featured her prominently.

00:02:09.000 And by hour two, Secretary Noam was out at DHS, and that was a huge, huge shockwave felt across the country.

00:02:19.000 First cabinet reshuffle of much more stable cabinet overall.

00:02:23.000 Much more.

00:02:25.000 And I think Trump was loath to do it.

00:02:27.000 He placed her, he didn't fire her all the way from DHS, certainly, but he's put her in a new role, which is fine, I guess.

00:02:35.000 So the next thing we need to talk about is who's going to be taking over for Christy Noam, and that is Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who's been a frequent guest on this show.

00:02:46.000 Now, here's, we want to lay out the stakes for you so that everybody understands properly the dynamics.

00:02:53.000 Senator Mark Wayne Mullen is one of the most liked senators, especially on the Republican side of the aisle within Washington.

00:03:01.000 He is a congenial guy.

00:03:04.000 He's very affable.

00:03:05.000 A lot of people like him.

00:03:07.000 Which it's good to be all of those things, but we're well aware that those phrases do set off alarm bells for a lot of people.

00:03:14.000 Yeah, well, you don't want to hear, you usually don't want to hear someone described as one of the most popular people in Washington.

00:03:19.000 Being popular in D.C. is not necessarily a compliment.

00:03:22.000 But I will say, my glass is half full.

00:03:26.000 I have a great respect for the senator.

00:03:29.000 I think he's, you know, here's the thing: he's a former MMA guy.

00:03:34.000 He's a military guy.

00:03:36.000 He's, you know, he's, I don't want to say he's mainstream, but he's kind of mainstream, right?

00:03:44.000 And again, alarm bells, alarm bells, alarm bells.

00:03:46.000 Because say what you will about Christy Noam, the same type of woman that is willing to shoot her dog is not going to be as, let's say, vulnerable to emotional appeals. 0.98

00:04:00.000 She was going to be ruthless when it came to deportations. 0.98

00:04:04.000 Here is the trade that you make when you are ruthless.

00:04:09.000 You're not going to get cooperation from blue states.

00:04:11.000 They're going to dig their heels in and they're going to fight you with everything they've got.

00:04:14.000 And that's what we saw with Christy Noam's approach.

00:04:17.000 And you kind of see this play out in Minneapolis.

00:04:20.000 So we have this huge uproar, Renee Goode, Alex Predi, and people digging their heels in.

00:04:28.000 Protests.

00:04:29.000 Nobody wants to cooperate.

00:04:30.000 And then Homan comes in, kind of settles things down.

00:04:34.000 A lot of it starts going under the radar.

00:04:37.000 You don't see the headlines as much.

00:04:39.000 And things calm down.

00:04:40.000 And the jails and the prisons and the counties and even Minneapolis start cooperating with ICE, giving over criminal illegals with detention requests.

00:04:50.000 That's a good thing.

00:04:51.000 It is a good thing if they cooperate.

00:04:53.000 But we have to be, there's going to be a little bit of a skirmish here because with any change of the person at the top, there's an opportunity.

00:05:03.000 And there are definitely going to be people who approach the president, approach the president's aides, and they say, you know, Christy Noam, she had a lot of these problems because she was so tough.

00:05:13.000 And midterms are coming up.

00:05:15.000 Some people think it's time to head towards the middle a little bit and they'll try to sell the administration, oh, this is a time to pivot towards the middle on immigration, maybe dial back the ICE stuff, dial back deportations, dial back enforcement stuff.

00:05:31.000 And, you know, this is your chance to do it.

00:05:33.000 There's a new guy.

00:05:34.000 He's pretty popular with Democrats.

00:05:36.000 We can play nice with him.

00:05:37.000 There will be this siren call to soften up.

00:05:42.000 And I think the administration's got to resist this.

00:05:44.000 This is the president's signature promise and his signature success of his term so far is the effort, not just that he's secured the border, but there's a bunch of other things he's done.

00:05:54.000 They've cut the number of H-1B visas that are being granted.

00:05:57.000 They've cut the number of foreign students.

00:06:00.000 The overall foreign population of the U.S. is going down.

00:06:03.000 They've basically stalled visas from a lot of countries.

00:06:06.000 From dozens, I think 70 countries have a visa pause right now.

00:06:10.000 These are all good things long term.

00:06:14.000 It's breaking that utter dependence on foreigners endlessly coming into America that's hollowed us out in so many ways. 1.00

00:06:21.000 And they're going to pressure Trump to reverse course on this.

00:06:24.000 And this is their chance to do it.

00:06:25.000 They're going to say, new guy at DHS, new policies, midterm year, ease up on things.

00:06:31.000 And as we said yesterday, there's going to be pushback on anything worth doing at ICE.

00:06:37.000 You don't want the stuff we had with Secretary Noam where a $200 million ad buy should not be your source of controversy.

00:06:45.000 The fact that you're not getting contracts signed because they're just sitting on your desk.

00:06:48.000 Don't want any of that going on.

00:06:50.000 But you do need to be prepared to fight out what really matters.

00:06:54.000 And if Mark Wayne Mullen is able to get along with Democrats in a way that makes sure we still have enforcement going on, that's great.

00:07:01.000 But they should not allow themselves to get tricked into selling out what they promised before the election.

00:07:08.000 Well, and remember the context that we're in right now.

00:07:11.000 And this is what I want all of you at home to kind of think about.

00:07:13.000 We have Iran, right? 0.97

00:07:15.000 So I was on with Chris Cuomo last night, and Chris Cuomo made this line.

00:07:18.000 I didn't get a chance to respond to it, and I texted him about it after because I was like, you know, that was not cool.

00:07:22.000 But he said that, you know, President Trump was this America First, that he ceded the America First mantle.

00:07:28.000 I disagree with that.

00:07:30.000 I know a lot of people that are skeptical about what's happening in Iran think that he has ceded the America First mantle.

00:07:37.000 I don't agree with that at all.

00:07:38.000 I actually think that, listen, I'm skeptical of what we're doing in Iran, but once we press go, we have our presidents back, we have our troops back.

00:07:47.000 And I do think that there is an America First angle here, and I think you could message on it.

00:07:52.000 I think that you could make that case.

00:07:54.000 But DHS is central to the America First promise, reason why President Trump was elected in the first place.

00:08:01.000 And this is the moment to seize that mantle and to make sure that we drive it home.

00:08:07.000 All right.

00:08:07.000 So this is not a time to listen to the voices that would tell President Trump and this administration to go soft, to get weak in the knees, to cede ground to the radical left and the activist base.

00:08:19.000 No.

00:08:20.000 But here's the middle ground.

00:08:22.000 And this is why I think Mark Wayne Mullen could be potentially incredibly successful at DHS.

00:08:27.000 DHS is really good, as our guest said yesterday, when there's no drama, there's commas, meaning we want millions out.

00:08:35.000 The way you get no drama is you have a guy like Mark Wayne Mullen who can reach across the aisle, calm people's fears, put on an affable, congenial face to it, stay out of the headlines, and just get the work done.

00:08:47.000 If we start getting prison transfers of criminals that have already been taken off the streets by local police departments and they get deported seamlessly, easily with just a few agents, not these raids all the time, that's going to be really key.

00:09:02.000 And the next key, employment enforcement.

00:09:06.000 Employment enforcement.

00:09:08.000 I want you to keep that at the top of your mind.

00:09:10.000 That's how you get big-time numbers.

00:09:12.000 So there's different strategies we can employ here that will get massive results without all the headlines, without all the drama.

00:09:18.000 So send us your emails.

00:09:20.000 A lot of you in the audience seem to be skeptical that he's tough enough, that he's got the intestinal fortitude and the internal constitution to stand up against the attacks so he doesn't use the parlance of our day cuckout.

00:09:34.000 So send us your emails, freedom at charliekirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:09:39.000 I want to hear your thoughts.

00:09:40.000 Are you worried that Mark Wayne Mullen doesn't have what it takes to stand up for mass deportations to get them done?

00:09:46.000 I'm just picturing in my head that phrase you just used, and we'd have those discussions with Charlie where, you know, what is Riz?

00:09:53.000 Yeah.

00:09:54.000 What does that mean?

00:09:55.000 What does that term you just use mean?

00:09:58.000 It just means, is he going to fold?

00:09:59.000 Is he going to get sobbed?

00:10:00.000 Is he going to get squished?

00:10:01.000 Is he going to get squishy?

00:10:02.000 Is he going to get squished?

00:10:03.000 We don't want to.

00:10:04.000 No, we hope not.

00:10:04.000 And we're going to fight to make sure that I will absolutely say this.

00:10:12.000 I will put an aerial assault on his text messages if he starts getting weak in the knees.

00:10:18.000 And you guys hold me accountable as well.

00:10:18.000 I will tell you that.

00:10:21.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:10:22.000 But I want to hear your thoughts.

00:10:23.000 What do you think?

00:10:24.000 Is the fact that he's friends with a bunch of Democrats, is that a bad thing or is that a good thing?

00:10:29.000 I think time will tell, but I'm sure you guys have opinions.

00:10:33.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com.

00:10:34.000 We want to hear from you and pull those up as we get them.

00:10:37.000 Of course, of course.

00:10:38.000 I want to draw attention really quick to this story.

00:10:43.000 We were going to get to it yesterday, but things got away on us.

00:10:47.000 But the House voted on basically whether or not they were going to release ethics complaint about sexual misconduct against its own members.

00:10:55.000 It's very funny how this goes because, of course, Congress has spent several months ripping itself apart over the files of Mr. Epstein and really blasting that all out there, which, as the president warned, a lot of people are going to have like baseless allegations about them published, not just actual embarrassing stuff, but just stuff where people, you know, insane people were making claims about this because it was such a big story.

00:11:22.000 You'd have cranks contacting the FBI and that stuff's gone out.

00:11:26.000 But there was a vote that I think Nancy Mace was demanding in the House where there is an ethics committee in the House and it investigates claims of sexual misconduct by members. 0.99

00:11:37.000 And this leads to reports.

00:11:38.000 This leads to, in some cases, settlements that are funded by taxpayers.

00:11:43.000 Payments are made.

00:11:45.000 And she proposed, okay, let's release all of those files. 0.96

00:11:49.000 And the House voted rather overwhelmingly to not do this.

00:11:55.000 357 to 65 to not release.

00:11:58.000 Yes.

00:11:59.000 There were 38 Republicans and 27 Democrats voted in favor.

00:12:02.000 So it wasn't even partisan in who the minority was.

00:12:05.000 Yeah, some of the Republicans that voted to release, and we should say, it would be Andy Biggs, Bobert from Colorado, Burchett from Tennessee.

00:12:14.000 I believe Gil, Brandon Gilbert.

00:12:16.000 Brandon Gill.

00:12:17.000 Yep.

00:12:18.000 Let's see, Rokana.

00:12:19.000 That wouldn't surprise, I think, many of you.

00:12:22.000 It's a lot of people we like, and I will say, given all the stuff that it's very, it is the case.

00:12:30.000 They voted, I think, 400 and some to one to release the Epstein files when they did.

00:12:35.000 And it is a funny image to have a lot of them now voting against that.

00:12:40.000 Obviously, I've made a lot of people irritated with my take on the file.

00:12:44.000 Oh, you guys are going to love Blake's Take.

00:12:46.000 Yeah, and it's just like, I would say I'm getting more and more.

00:12:50.000 I'm shaped a lot.

00:12:51.000 I used to cover education, and so I would cover all those sexual harassment tribunals they would have at colleges. 0.99

00:12:56.000 And that really solidified in me.

00:12:59.000 I think we have a legal system for a reason.

00:13:02.000 If you sexually assault or rape or do a crime to somebody, it should go to a court of law.

00:13:09.000 Like, that's why we have judges. 0.59

00:13:09.000 Period. 0.59

00:13:11.000 That's why we have lawyers. 0.99

00:13:12.000 That's why we have juries.

00:13:13.000 Your whole take, though, is that this doesn't belong in the House.

00:13:15.000 Yeah, I'm going to say this.

00:13:17.000 I don't think Congress should be investigating claims related to affairs of its members.

00:13:23.000 If you are a victim of harassment, if someone is extorting you or committing some sort of crime, you should report it to the police or you should sue them for it.

00:13:31.000 And it should be in a court of law.

00:13:33.000 But what we see in Congress is the same thing we see in universities, which when you have these para, you know, these quasi-courts, they're a way to shake people down. 0.74

00:13:43.000 They're a way to sort of harangue people. 1.00

00:13:47.000 They're a way to escalate personal drama into affairs of state.

00:13:50.000 But it's different because Congress actually has a fund established to pay out these.

00:13:56.000 Which they also shouldn't.

00:13:58.000 But this is why it caused some controversy.

00:14:00.000 The drafted language allegedly would have revealed victims, disproven claims, etc.

00:14:06.000 It was similar to the Epstein discharge.

00:14:09.000 So why are they all right with doing one over the other?

00:14:12.000 Does that make any sense?

00:14:14.000 Probably not.

00:14:15.000 It's not consistent.

00:14:17.000 And I would say it would be satisfying.

00:14:19.000 Congress, just like with their stock trades, Congress is often a very greasy body.

00:14:25.000 And I think there's a lot of ethical stuff to be desired.

00:14:28.000 So, in a sense, Congress would richly deserve having all of this stuff aired out.

00:14:33.000 But I think if we did that, I would be, okay, release all the files and then also just move this into a normal court.

00:14:40.000 You're just against it on principle.

00:14:41.000 Yeah.

00:14:41.000 Not that Congress deserves to be shielded from the world.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, Congress shouldn't be shielded.

00:14:45.000 Congress shouldn't be shielded.

00:14:46.000 But I think the standard should be things should either be in the open court of law, something that is, you get sued over this, you get prosecuted over this, or it should be a private matter.

00:14:57.000 We don't, it's weird to have these extrajudicial tribunals of this sort.

00:15:02.000 And I don't like them in college campuses.

00:15:04.000 I don't like them in companies.

00:15:05.000 Companies do this now where, oh, someone has, you know, a relationship with an employee and then these HR apparatuses investigating this.

00:15:13.000 Just, no, this didn't exist when America was a great country 70 years ago.

00:15:18.000 You had the courts and you had private life.

00:15:21.000 And I don't want to mingle the two as much as we can.

00:15:23.000 You can understand some of the folks in the audience who probably feel frustrated with that answer simply because of the hypocrisy of it all.

00:15:30.000 You've got, I mean, I will say Roe Connan, Thomas Massey, Nancy May, some of the loudest members on the Epstein stuff, we're all voted in favor of releasing it.

00:15:38.000 But the House did vote, what was it, you said 400 and something to one to release the Epstein documents and the transparency discharge.

00:15:46.000 And guess what?

00:15:48.000 A lot of those people, their principles only went so deep.

00:15:51.000 And here's what I will say: there's a new big dump from the Justice Department, almost 50,000 documents.

00:15:58.000 Total nothing, Burger.

00:15:59.000 We explained it last week.

00:16:01.000 It's literally all of the things we explained last week.

00:16:04.000 So maybe we'll explain it again if we have to.

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00:17:19.000 It is that time again.

00:17:20.000 We have Mark Halperin.

00:17:22.000 He's the editor-in-chief of two-way TV as well as host of Next Up on the Megan Kelly Network.

00:17:27.000 Welcome back to the show, Charlie, to the Charlie Kirk Show, Mark.

00:17:31.000 How are you doing?

00:17:32.000 Gentlemen, I'm good.

00:17:33.000 In honor of intra-MAGA conflict, I'm dressed like Steve Benn today with the three lengths. 0.96

00:17:38.000 Oh, is that where we're going?

00:17:40.000 Is that where we're going?

00:17:41.000 All right.

00:17:42.000 All right.

00:17:44.000 I tried to grow my beard in, but I couldn't do it fast.

00:17:46.000 Well, Blake's fro is growing.

00:17:48.000 You got to take some of our strong cell that causes hair to sprout all over. 0.51

00:17:52.000 These are fake.

00:17:52.000 Mail it to me.

00:17:54.000 Fake allegations.

00:17:55.000 All right.

00:17:56.000 Mark, so is this where you tell us that the Iranian war or conflict or whatever we're calling it is causing intra-maga fighting or what?

00:18:06.000 What is your political analysis of where we're at?

00:18:10.000 It is.

00:18:11.000 And you could take a Tucker description of his opposition and graft a bunch of it onto a Bernie Sanders description, and it would look a lot alike.

00:18:21.000 This is not a partisan issue as much as it is an attitude about America's role in the world.

00:18:27.000 So I'm for a robust debate.

00:18:30.000 I think people shouldn't shy away from the reality that there are people within both parties who disagree about whether this is a good idea.

00:18:37.000 And I think it should be less about personality and fighting and more about get on the national town square and explain your position.

00:18:46.000 I think the president, I talked about this on Next Up last week.

00:18:49.000 I don't think the why and the why now are ambiguous.

00:18:52.000 And it frustrates me that people want to spend time debating the why and the why now.

00:18:56.000 I think there are lots of debates to have: Congress's role, the endgame, regime change, how much it costs, the risks.

00:19:04.000 But I don't think we need to debate why and why now.

00:19:06.000 I think the president and Caroline Levitt have made that pretty clear.

00:19:09.000 Yeah, I actually was on with Chris Cuomo on his show last night, and I said, hey, originally, I was very much in the camp that this has not been properly sold to the American people.

00:19:18.000 I am no longer in that camp.

00:19:19.000 I understand the why and the why now.

00:19:21.000 I actually think they've done a pretty good job of that.

00:19:24.000 Now, we have questions, of course.

00:19:25.000 How close were they really to enriching uranium to the point of making a nuclear bomb?

00:19:29.000 We've been told that for decades.

00:19:31.000 But we had a nuclear scientist on the show yesterday who said basically it's the same amount of time going from 0 to 5% enrichment as it is 60 to 90.

00:19:40.000 I mean, it ramps up very quickly how fast you can get it there.

00:19:43.000 And so, I mean, listen, there's a lot of reasons I think that this can make sense from a national security perspective, from a geopolitical perspective.

00:19:51.000 The truth, though, is that Trump could be 100% right from a national security perspective and an American first perspective, but it could be politically costly.

00:20:02.000 And we need to be honest about that.

00:20:03.000 Mark, we had students from some of our chapters on, and they said basically all the Trump voters on campus hate it too, right?

00:20:10.000 And this was something that Charlie was intimately aware of.

00:20:14.000 My perspective on it is once you press go, you got to be a patriot.

00:20:17.000 You got to root for our troops.

00:20:18.000 Pray for their safety.

00:20:19.000 And you got to pray that America's interests are advanced somehow, the world's interests, Iranians' interests are advanced somehow here. 0.78

00:20:27.000 But politically, I think this gets dicier the longer it goes, right?

00:20:33.000 So we were told four to five weeks.

00:20:35.000 Now we're told 100 days, maybe through September.

00:20:38.000 That seems to be the central question of how do you get out?

00:20:42.000 As this thing drags on, I think that's where the political fallout is going to be felt most sharply, especially as we close into the midterms.

00:20:50.000 So what messaging is working?

00:20:52.000 What's not working?

00:20:53.000 What's piercing?

00:20:54.000 What's getting through?

00:20:55.000 Line up the two sides.

00:20:56.000 What do you think is working when the Democrats are attacking it?

00:20:59.000 What do you think is working when the admin supports it?

00:21:02.000 Well, first, I know you guys must do this all the time, but I really do wonder what would have happened if the president had called Charlie last week and said, hey, I'm thinking of doing this.

00:21:11.000 What he would have said, and then what he would have said if the president hadn't agreed with his advice, but had done it anyway, assuming that might have been his advice.

00:21:18.000 I really do wonder, because as we all know, he was singular in thinking about these things from all dimensions.

00:21:23.000 And I don't think he would have been exactly where Tucker is or exactly where the vice president is, but I do wonder where he would have been on this.

00:21:30.000 Look, I think the politics overlap with the substance, but the substance is most important, and the politics will flow from that.

00:21:37.000 If this is successful, then I think it will help Republicans, although it may not save their majorities in Congress in the midterms.

00:21:44.000 The Democrats, it really surprises me, even given how much they dislike the president, how polarized things are, it surprises me how far out they are in just emphasizing the negatives about this and not even sometimes even paying homage to the extraordinary performance of the U.S. military and the boldness of this.

00:22:03.000 We've had decades of all presidents saying Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

00:22:08.000 Is it intolerable that Iran is developing ballistic, intercontinental ballistic missiles?

00:22:13.000 It's intolerable that Iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism around the world.

00:22:17.000 Other presidents felt the same way about President Trump.

00:22:19.000 Not just that it was a bad thing, but that it was an intolerable thing.

00:22:23.000 And yet Donald Trump's the one who's done something about it.

00:22:26.000 Now, there are extraordinary risks, and you've put your finger on for most Republicans who are worried about the election is the critical factor.

00:22:34.000 How long will this last?

00:22:36.000 And I believe that the president could stop now, right?

00:22:41.000 There's nothing, there's no factor that keeps the president, except for maybe fighting with Netanyahu about it, from saying, hey, we degraded on the fronts we wanted to, missile, technology, naval capacity, nuclear development, and terror sponsorship.

00:23:00.000 We've degraded all those.

00:23:01.000 We're done.

00:23:03.000 We're going to come back home and warn the Iranians that if they continue on those fronts to try to rebuild, we'll do it again. 0.99

00:23:09.000 Or he can keep going and further degrading all four and hope that there becomes an opportunity for the Iranian people to rise up.

00:23:16.000 So I think people who are worried that this is a quagmire or too much money or an endless war, I think are underestimating the flexibility the president has here to, if he wants to for substantive and or political purposes, to just end it.

00:23:30.000 Well, I've heard that take, but do you think that holds up now that Iran has taken this sort of lash out approach where they are shooting missiles at Dubai?

00:23:41.000 They're shooting missiles at Kuwait. 0.63

00:23:43.000 We've had things popping up in Azerbaijan, Jordan, Cyprus even, that actually the president is sort of stuck as long as that's going on because he has so many of these relationships with Middle Eastern countries and he can't abandon all of them at once.

00:23:58.000 Well, I hear what you're saying, but if you believe the American military, and it's right, if you've got my profession, to be skeptical of what the government says during war, especially during war when governments historically don't always tell the truth, they can keep going and continue to degrade those things.

00:24:14.000 So could they stop if Iran still had capacity to send missiles or drones into other countries? 0.81

00:24:21.000 Probably not.

00:24:22.000 But if you look at the data of how many attacks they've engaged in in the last 24 hours versus the first 48 hours, it appears the Pentagon's telling the truth, that they've diminished their capacity.

00:24:34.000 So can they make it so Iran can never hit an American ally ever again? 0.90

00:24:38.000 No, but they can degrade it pretty substantially, it appears.

00:24:42.000 And again, that could be a natural stopping point, even if we know little about whether whoever is governing Iran now will be any better for the world and for the Iranian people than what was there before the conflict began.

00:24:55.000 Yeah, and Mark, you're very good at looking at things dispassionately.

00:24:59.000 You sort of call balls and strikes.

00:25:01.000 You know, we're hardened partisans over here, obviously.

00:25:04.000 But, you know, the question that has sort of emerged in this conflict is how much of our immediate skepticism was rooted in muscle memory, scar tissue from Iraq, from Afghanistan.

00:25:19.000 There is a countervailing sense that President Trump is really the first president that's really unleashed our military to just be completely lethal and precise.

00:25:32.000 We're not tying their feet here in their hands.

00:25:35.000 So, I mean, when you talk about we could actually do this relatively quickly, I mean, when you look at this, you're looking at the data, you're looking at how precise and lethal they're being.

00:25:46.000 This really could be a new model, even in a country as big as Iran.

00:25:50.000 Or do you think that that's coped?

00:25:51.000 Do you think I'm full of hopium here?

00:25:55.000 No, I think it's full use of force, but not boots on the ground.

00:26:00.000 And no one's talking about building schools and hospitals in Tehran.

00:26:04.000 So if you stay away from troops on the ground, he's boots on the ground, you stay away from nation building, and you stay away from being responsible for the new government, although the president yesterday suggested he was responsible for it, or at least he'd like to be.

00:26:18.000 If you stay away from responsibility in those three areas, this is a new paradigm.

00:26:22.000 And I find it amusing when people say there's never been a regime change forced by air power.

00:26:30.000 Well, there's two things I think wrong with that.

00:26:31.000 One is regime change doesn't have to happen for this to be a success.

00:26:35.000 And number two, we've never had air power like we have now, particularly with drones, but also the sophistication and lethality of America's air power from sea land and air.

00:26:44.000 So I wouldn't be surprised if this is actually what the president's brand on these things stand for, well executed, which is overwhelming force mitigating the problems that have occurred in previous forever wars that he's still against and his constituents are against. 0.71

00:27:02.000 Yeah, and you got to remember, like, the reason we were even thinking in these terms, the reason Charlie became so clear-eyed in these terms is because President Trump sort of pioneered that, you know, Iraq was a dumb war, right?

00:27:13.000 I mean, he said that from the debate standards.

00:27:15.000 He was the first one to say it.

00:27:16.000 The Republicans wouldn't say that.

00:27:18.000 Yeah, for a decade.

00:27:19.000 Yeah.

00:27:19.000 And so the fact we're even here is because of Trump's leadership.

00:27:22.000 I don't think he gets enough credit for that, honestly.

00:27:24.000 Even some of my skepticisms, I've been probably too slow to give him credit for even where we're at currently.

00:27:32.000 All right, Mark, I don't want to say we called our shot yesterday, but we kind of called our shot.

00:27:38.000 We spent a lot of hour one getting absolutely lambasted by some of you in this audience for our criticisms of Christy Noam.

00:27:46.000 We didn't like the luxury jets.

00:27:48.000 We didn't like the marketing buys with her prominently featured.

00:27:51.000 We didn't like her putting that on President Trump.

00:27:53.000 I knew a line had been crossed.

00:27:55.000 And then sure enough, by the end of hour two, Mark, she was out.

00:27:58.000 And that was a huge, you know, tectonic shift in the admin that was felt across the country.

00:28:06.000 Politically, I think this is a huge win for President Trump.

00:28:09.000 I think deportations, the promises on immigration are just too central to his election and his prospects going forward.

00:28:16.000 I think we needed a change at the top.

00:28:18.000 What say you?

00:28:19.000 Well, I was surprised when she was picked originally because it wasn't clear to me what her qualifications were for this job.

00:28:27.000 And she caused a lot of problems for the administration. 0.98

00:28:31.000 It's a really big agency, really big department, really hard to run.

00:28:35.000 And both she and Corey Lewandowski, her advisor, have a lot of enemies in the administration.

00:28:41.000 That's just objective.

00:28:44.000 That's not gossip.

00:28:45.000 It's not anti-MAGA or anti-Christy Noome and Corey Lewandowski.

00:28:49.000 It's just an objective fact.

00:28:51.000 They had made enemies for most of the year, including among some of the most important and impressive and powerful members of the Trump team.

00:29:01.000 So Their capacity to stay in the positions as long as they did is quite an achievement.

00:29:08.000 And at the same time, that's so harsh.

00:29:11.000 I love it.

00:29:12.000 It's really harsh.

00:29:13.000 It's true.

00:29:13.000 So you're true.

00:29:15.000 The surprising aspect for you is not that she was ousted.

00:29:18.000 It was the fact she lasted as long as she did.

00:29:20.000 Yeah, yes.

00:29:21.000 That's telling us.

00:29:23.000 But again, I go back to the politics needs, you know, talking about these things, I think I say respectfully, and in the real lives of real people, the politics needs to follow from the substance.

00:29:33.000 She was involved in helping control the border.

00:29:36.000 That's one of the greatest achievements of this president.

00:29:38.000 So she gets credit for that.

00:29:41.000 But you can't go to Congress under oath and say the president signed off on something he didn't sign off on.

00:29:48.000 That's a no-brainer in terms of a fireable offense.

00:29:51.000 At the same time, she did about a dozen other things that in a normal president and a normal cabinet member would have put her on at least the nice.

00:29:58.000 So I just think as an American, we need this department to be run really well and without this level of controversy.

00:30:09.000 So I have sort of been hearing whispers, Mark.

00:30:13.000 I'm curious if you've heard the same whispers.

00:30:16.000 Two things.

00:30:16.000 I'll let you react to them in whichever order you want.

00:30:18.000 Democrats were already planning impeachment proceedings using and leveraging some of this.

00:30:23.000 This, that, when she said Trump was, you know, he had approved some of these contracts, these no big contracts, things like that, when he hadn't.

00:30:32.000 Secondly, I am concerned moving forward about what, let's just say, softness might come out of the DHS.

00:30:41.000 I like Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, but I'm concerned that he's going to be offering up negotiating pieces that might be, let's say, unsavory for the base that wants to see, you know, everybody deported, all illegals deported. 1.00

00:30:55.000 Take those in whichever order you want, but he's going to try and get blue states to cooperate, just like we've seen in Minneapolis.

00:31:02.000 And I'm just concerned about the negotiation process there.

00:31:05.000 Between Secretary Mullen and Democrats?

00:31:08.000 Yep.

00:31:09.000 Yeah. 0.99

00:31:10.000 First of all, I feel, you know, usually I treat stuff that's said during the break as private, but I do feel duty-bound to tell the listeners and the viewers that during the break, Blake said that he could kick Mark Wayne Mullen's ass. 0.99

00:31:24.000 It's a strong sell. 0.99

00:31:26.000 It's a strong sell, I mean.

00:31:27.000 Disavow.

00:31:28.000 I feel I need to share that because there's a kind of a bold claim.

00:31:31.000 Well, we know where to find that cowboy, I'm pretty sure.

00:31:34.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:35.000 There's that great clip of going around viral of Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:31:38.000 Well, what I saw yesterday about him was someone joked that his office gets mad if you call and ask for Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:31:45.000 Mark Cuan.

00:31:46.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:31:47.000 I actually sent him a meme that was he laughed at it.

00:31:50.000 Anyways.

00:31:51.000 Yeah.

00:31:52.000 Everybody loves that guy.

00:31:54.000 Look, I like the fact that he said yesterday he hopes to get Democratic support in the confirmation process.

00:32:00.000 And he might.

00:32:02.000 Senators tend to be more inclined to vote for other senators.

00:32:05.000 And he's widely considered one of the nicest members of the Congress.

00:32:09.000 So fresh start and a possibility to keep up the policies that are popular and consistent with the president's agenda and his pledge as a candidate, and to maybe win over some Democratic support, which would be good for everybody.

00:32:23.000 It'd be good politically for the Republicans, I think, but it'd be good for the country.

00:32:28.000 The president and Tom Homans doesn't appear to be going, so we'll have to see what that relationship's like.

00:32:33.000 But the president has a pretty robust agenda about deportation that I think would win broad support.

00:32:38.000 Maybe not amongst the squad, but a lot of Democrats would support it.

00:32:42.000 He still has to deal, and this will be part of what Secretary Mullen has to address: what about cracking down on employers?

00:32:49.000 What about deporting people who are in the country legally but haven't been convicted of other crimes?

00:32:54.000 That needs to be worked out still.

00:32:56.000 What exactly is the next three years look like in terms of who gets deported?

00:33:00.000 But a fresh start is a good thing because whether she would have been impeached or not, I don't know.

00:33:06.000 I think the Democrats are going to have to think long and hard about how much they want to talk about impeachment now and how much they want to address it if they do win the majority.

00:33:15.000 But I don't pay much attention to it because if they impeached everybody who they talked about impeaching, it's all they would do.

00:33:22.000 And I don't think they would want to use their newfound majority to just run a bunch of impeachment probes.

00:33:26.000 So to dig one level deeper, let's just say DACA, let's say amnesty of some sort, let's say more work visa, whatever the offering is.

00:33:40.000 What I'm trying to get at here, Mark, is I am an all, they all need to go guy, right? 0.96

00:33:45.000 You hear this kind of bifurcation within the messaging that the worst first, we want to get the criminals, and then there's the base, which a lot of us are, a lot of them are like me.

00:33:55.000 They all need to go.

00:33:56.000 And what I'm trying to calibrate with you dispassionately, so take you're not in MAGA, you're kind of sitting outside of it.

00:34:05.000 What would you brace us for accepting if we're going to get Blue City sanctuary cities to cooperate and hand over their criminals at jails?

00:34:14.000 What do we need?

00:34:16.000 What is actually the most popular center cut of this?

00:34:19.000 Yeah.

00:34:20.000 Well, you're on the wrong side of public opinion on that question, as I know you know.

00:34:25.000 And there's a practical, a practical reality.

00:34:29.000 You know, I used to ask people before MAGA, back in like 20, you know, 2012, 2016, before the president won the nomination, what do you want to do with the 15 million or so who are here illegally?

00:34:42.000 And most politicians in the Republican Party wouldn't answer the question because they know not just what a heavy lift it is and how expensive it would be on the front end, but a lot of those people are integral to the economy, particularly in two sectors.

00:34:55.000 The president has a lot of friends who are owners of hospitality and agriculture.

00:35:00.000 So, if you guys want to take the president on on deporting people who work in agriculture and hospitality, go at it.

00:35:07.000 But I don't think he has any intention of doing that because every time it comes up, some of his friends in hospitality and ag call him and say, you'd put us out of business.

00:35:14.000 Yeah.

00:35:15.000 So, they might have broken the law.

00:35:17.000 They might be a drain on America tax dollars in one way or another. 0.87

00:35:21.000 Some of them might commit crimes, but they're an integral part of the economy.

00:35:24.000 And I'm not saying they shouldn't be removed from the country.

00:35:27.000 I'm just saying there are a lot of people in the Republican Party who don't want them removed.

00:35:30.000 Well, I don't like that answer, but that's why I asked it because I want to know what you think.

00:35:34.000 Mark Halperin, thank you for making the time for us today.

00:35:37.000 Always welcome here.

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00:36:40.000 This is our ask us anything hour.

00:36:42.000 It's the final hour of the final show of the week.

00:36:45.000 So you can participate by joining us at members.charliekirk.com.

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00:36:54.000 Join the show, ask us questions live on Friday, hour two.

00:36:58.000 But we did ask you for questions in hour one about what do you think about Mark Halpern?

00:37:04.000 Or not Mark Wayne Mullen, the other one.

00:37:06.000 And we got a lot.

00:37:06.000 We got a lot very quickly.

00:37:09.000 A lot is, a lot of people are angry about what he said and did about January 6th.

00:37:13.000 Yep.

00:37:14.000 A lot of people said the fact he called Ashley Babbitt's murderer a hero is a problem for me.

00:37:20.000 Another one said that she's, I believe he like embraced the word, I think, is what he said.

00:37:29.000 Let's see.

00:37:30.000 But Mullen, over the years, Charlie would make mention about his concerns with certain people.

00:37:38.000 But he says he's worried that Mark Wayne might say whatever he needs to ingratiate himself because we know Charlie had Mark Wayne on a lot.

00:37:45.000 He said positive things about him.

00:37:46.000 So I think there's a lot of kind of maybe Missouri attitude.

00:37:50.000 Show me with Mullen that you can get the job done.

00:37:53.000 That's fair enough.

00:37:55.000 And XOXO Wildlife.

00:37:57.000 On the other hand, Patty says, we're ready for a change, and he's great regarding deportation.

00:38:03.000 We live in Oklahoma.

00:38:03.000 He has done well for our state.

00:38:05.000 That's Stan and Patty.

00:38:08.000 XOXO Wildfire says, Hallelujah.

00:38:10.000 Spot on Mark Halperin.

00:38:12.000 Bingo, please, you two, stop patting yourselves on the back for her ouster.

00:38:17.000 Fair enough.

00:38:18.000 We probably had very little to do with it, although it was time to address it.

00:38:24.000 Another says, I'm not a fan.

00:38:26.000 In the past years, he verbally attacked Matt Gates long before Matt was proposed as AG, but I hope he proves me wrong, and I trust President Trump implicitly.

00:38:35.000 That's from Mary.

00:38:36.000 So, like I said, a lot of prove it sort of attitude, which that's why we said the administration's got to make sure that they don't go for, they don't fall for the siren call to soften up on immigration just because Noam is out.

00:38:52.000 You still want the tough attitude.

00:38:53.000 You just want less of the distractions.

00:38:56.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:38:57.000 All right, so we are in our Ask Us Anything hour, and we have first up, looks like Ellie. 1.00

00:39:04.000 Ellie, you are on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:39:06.000 Welcome.

00:39:07.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:39:08.000 Hey, can you guys hear me okay?

00:39:10.000 Yes.

00:39:12.000 Hey, thanks for letting me call in.

00:39:14.000 It's my first time.

00:39:15.000 Oh, hopefully not the last time.

00:39:17.000 Yeah.

00:39:19.000 So unfortunately, I've lost a few close family members in this last year.

00:39:23.000 And then, of course, with losing Charlie as well.

00:39:26.000 I know they believed in Jesus and they're in heaven now, but with all of the grief, my question to you guys is, I know all of you have different opinions on faith, but what are some ways that you have all strengthened your faith through dealing with the grief?

00:39:42.000 I mean, our situation is so unique in the sense that we found ourselves at the middle of this really global news story.

00:39:53.000 And I said it a bunch of times, and I'll say it again because it bears repeating.

00:39:57.000 I was sustained by the prayers of strangers.

00:39:59.000 Obviously, I had a ton of people praying for me and for us and for the organization, for Erica that we knew, but a lot, we just had so many people.

00:40:08.000 I've got a mountain of mail in the office here, actually, that Riley's just looking through.

00:40:13.000 And it's like the third wave that has come to me because they hold it in our shipment area until they can check it out.

00:40:21.000 And then it comes to me and it's just this mountain of people saying, we're praying for you and we love you and we have your back.

00:40:26.000 And I will tell you, I could feel it.

00:40:28.000 I genuinely could feel the prayers of strangers.

00:40:31.000 And all of a sudden, it was kind of, it was almost like a road to Damascus moment for me even when I, after Charlie was assassinated, I realized, you know, so many days we were just hunkered down working so hard, just trying to save the country, trying to get President Trump elected, whatever, build the show.

00:40:50.000 And all of a sudden, Charlie was gone.

00:40:53.000 And I realized, looking back, you know, and I said this at the memorial, that I realized Charlie, we called them campus tour stops and prove me wrongs, but they were really tent revivals, you know.

00:41:03.000 And I saw that Charlie wasn't just a political activist.

00:41:06.000 He was a prophet to the people.

00:41:09.000 And those kind of realizations felt like revelations from the Lord.

00:41:14.000 And that strengthened my faith because I just felt like it wasn't a concept.

00:41:21.000 It wasn't abstract.

00:41:22.000 It was so deeply personal.

00:41:24.000 And you can just feel the Holy Spirit in that moment.

00:41:28.000 I could feel the Holy Spirit in and around us and in and around what was happening and in and around the vigils and everything we saw at the memorial.

00:41:37.000 It was such a tangible manifestation of the presence of God for me personally, but for the country.

00:41:45.000 And when you have those moments, it's important to remember them because, you know, they're clarifying moments.

00:41:51.000 They're moments of vision.

00:41:53.000 And if you look into scriptures, the stories of the great people in the Bible, they had these moments of beautiful vision and then the vision would get clouded.

00:42:01.000 And so, and that's just what happens in life.

00:42:04.000 God gives you a revelation and then that revelation is challenged and the vision gets cloudy.

00:42:09.000 And so I hold that with that memorial in my heart deeply and closely.

00:42:12.000 And I hold those moments of just the tangible presence of God in and around us closely.

00:42:17.000 And I remember it because I truly believe what God has unleashed, man cannot stop.

00:42:22.000 And I believe God is active in our midst.

00:42:24.000 I believe God is doing a great work.

00:42:26.000 I believe that revival continues on.

00:42:29.000 And so I just, I hold close to the promises of God.

00:42:33.000 I hold close to what God has revealed to us.

00:42:35.000 And I hold close to the legacy that Charlie left us.

00:42:39.000 I think about it all the time.

00:42:40.000 I don't know about you, Danny, but I find myself reflecting on those moments.

00:42:42.000 Danny spent a lot of time with Charlie in private.

00:42:44.000 Yeah, I think what I've been doing a lot is just like praying, reading the Bible, as Charlie would say, is very important and just staying grounded in your beliefs and really just taking time and just reading scripture instead of just listening to everything online and everything like that.

00:43:00.000 And I think that's really helped just sticking true to my beliefs and God's word.

00:43:05.000 Yeah, this is one of Charlie, one of Charlie's better takes that he repeated on here a lot is that faith is a practice.

00:43:14.000 And so I like that you say, how do you cultivate it daily?

00:43:16.000 Well, are you doing a faith-related thing daily?

00:43:18.000 Because that is how you will cultivate it daily.

00:43:20.000 I think some this is going to be a weird comparison, but I remember when I started lifting weights, a friend of mine pointed out a lot of people would go online and they would obsess over like, what's the right regimen of weights to do?

00:43:34.000 And like, what should I lift?

00:43:36.000 What should my schedule be?

00:43:37.000 And they'd obsess over that and they would never start until they felt they were on the perfect thing.

00:43:41.000 And he would point out to me, the best exercise is the one you do, Blake, and do something.

00:43:45.000 And if you want me to change it, you can just change it as you go.

00:43:48.000 And I think a similar thing can happen with faith stuff sometimes, where people wonder about doing it the right way.

00:43:56.000 The correct take is, are you praying daily?

00:43:59.000 Are you reading scripture daily?

00:44:01.000 Are you going to church on Sunday?

00:44:03.000 Are you doing something?

00:44:04.000 Are you doing those basic things?

00:44:05.000 And the extra stuff will naturally come out of that involvement.

00:44:11.000 I had a pastor that told me, Ellie, that you can't.

00:44:14.000 turn a park car.

00:44:16.000 So the first thing you do when you're cultivating your faith is you just go.

00:44:20.000 And you can adjust the direction as you go.

00:44:23.000 I think to myself all the time, doing the show, working with Turning Point is a massive blessing because every day is an act of faith.

00:44:30.000 Every day I have to test my faith.

00:44:32.000 I have to have courage.

00:44:33.000 I have to step forward into something that feels uncomfortable.

00:44:36.000 And so the question for you at home is what are you doing that makes you uncomfortable?

00:44:41.000 What is it that you're doing on a daily basis that makes you step out of your comfort zone and step into faith?

00:44:46.000 Faith is spelled R-I-S-K.

00:44:49.000 What are you doing to take a risk for the Lord?

00:44:51.000 And I'm blessed, and we're blessed around here because every day is a faith walk and a faith journey.

00:44:56.000 Ellie, did we get to your question?

00:44:58.000 Danny had a good follow-up as well, but I want to make sure we answered your question.

00:45:03.000 Yeah, no, that was amazing.

00:45:05.000 I've been watching this show every day since Charlie died.

00:45:09.000 So it's just hearing your opinion on it means a lot to me.

00:45:14.000 Oh, that's so great to hear.

00:45:15.000 Yeah, I will tell you, this whole thing has been a walk of faith.

00:45:19.000 I mean, I'll be honest with you.

00:45:21.000 And, you know, we're in the break here, so Rav isn't necessarily catching it.

00:45:25.000 But my first instinct was that the show was never going to go on and that we were going to just have to let everybody go and nobody was going to have a job.

00:45:34.000 And Erica looked at me and she said, they tried to silence my husband's voice, and we can't let them do that.

00:45:40.000 You have to keep the show going.

00:45:42.000 I'll tell you right now, that was a huge step of faith for me and Blake, I'm sure.

00:45:48.000 Danny, everybody on the team, everybody in the studio.

00:45:51.000 And we walk it out every day.

00:45:52.000 And it comes with criticisms.

00:45:54.000 It comes with people coming after us or people saying we're not doing it right.

00:45:58.000 But there's been so many good things from it too.

00:46:00.000 And God has been so faithful in the midst of that, from our partners at Real America's Voice to our sponsors to our crew and our staff.

00:46:08.000 And huge, huge step of faith.

00:46:10.000 And you had one more, Danny, that was really important.

00:46:12.000 Well, yeah, just Charlie's book and taking the Shabbat too is also very helpful.

00:46:16.000 And just, you know, getting off your phone and just staying grounded.

00:46:20.000 Just remove the distractions.

00:46:22.000 Make sure you rest in the Lord.

00:46:24.000 Where do you live, Ellie?

00:46:26.000 I live around the Chicagoland area.

00:46:28.000 Oh, where at?

00:46:30.000 I'm from Chicago.

00:46:31.000 Maybe she doesn't want to be there.

00:46:32.000 Around the Aurora area.

00:46:34.000 You don't have to be specific.

00:46:34.000 Okay, fair.

00:46:35.000 Well, the neighborhood.

00:46:36.000 Okay, now anyway, now if you can give us your street address right now.

00:46:39.000 And what is your social security number?

00:46:41.000 I'm kidding.

00:46:43.000 That's great.

00:46:43.000 Chicago is a beautiful city.

00:46:45.000 It's very shame what they did.

00:46:47.000 It's very secular, though.

00:46:48.000 Yeah, there's some good churches there. 0.99

00:46:50.000 They're all pretty gay. 1.00

00:46:52.000 They're not great. 0.99

00:46:53.000 All right.

00:46:54.000 Well, Danny's Gen Z is poking through. 0.98

00:46:58.000 All right.

00:46:59.000 So actually, I have a friend at Hillsdale who was just texting with who I mentioned.

00:47:04.000 He's listening in.

00:47:05.000 He said, I used to live in Aurora.

00:47:06.000 If Ellie needs church recommendations, I'm happy to help.

00:47:09.000 So, Ellie, if you need church recommendations, email us at freedom at charliekirk.com and I'll connect you with my buddy over at Hillsdale.

00:47:16.000 Our next caller is Christine.

00:47:18.000 Christine, welcome to the show.

00:47:19.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:47:21.000 Hey, guys, how are you doing today?

00:47:23.000 Really well.

00:47:24.000 Good.

00:47:24.000 It's Friday.

00:47:25.000 How are you?

00:47:26.000 Yeah, right.

00:47:27.000 I have a whole thing.

00:47:28.000 So, many conservatives I know want this strict enforcement on immigration, but I feel like we should have some way to bring people in.

00:47:38.000 For example, maybe we could, if someone's paid their taxes consistently and had no crimes for the past five years, they could apply for citizenship and be forgiven for the illegal entry.

00:47:51.000 Or, like my father, who came over after World War II, he had a sponsor who was financially responsible for him until he met criteria like language proficiency, employment, and good conduct.

00:48:07.000 So, do you think it has to be zero tolerance, or shouldn't we find a way through to these people who are good of heart who just need to be here for other reasons, you know, than crime?

00:48:19.000 Bluntly, so, first of all, in practice, we may end up with some sort of compromise like that.

00:48:26.000 But my personal opinion is we should fight pretty hard for zero tolerance because we've gone through this routine multiple times.

00:48:36.000 And I'll be frank, I think a lot of good intentions like yours that you express have been taken advantage of.

00:48:42.000 So, as an example, as you say, be responsible until they show language proficiency.

00:48:48.000 Well, you're already supposed to have language proficiency in America, for example, to become a citizen, to get things like those truck driving licenses.

00:48:56.000 And as we see, we just hand them out anyway.

00:48:58.000 It's not really enforced.

00:48:59.000 A friend of mine who did become a naturalized citizen, he was at the, you know, he went there and he was observing the checks they were doing.

00:49:08.000 And he says the test for English proficiency was on the level Pointing at somebody's left hand and saying, raise your left hand.

00:49:15.000 Well, okay, you're pointing at their hand.

00:49:17.000 And okay, they hold up their hand because you're pointing at it.

00:49:20.000 They're like, oh, oh, they're fluent.

00:49:23.000 You're going to be a ready contributor to the American life.

00:49:26.000 And same thing.

00:49:29.000 Commit no crimes.

00:49:30.000 Well, okay, well, we have states already where because if you commit a crime result, like a felony is supposed to result in deportation, they deliberately lower the charges they bring against illegal immigrants to keep them in jail for less time, or they take a felony and make it a misdemeanor to make sure that a person is not deported.

00:49:50.000 There's endless ways that this gets manipulated and used against us.

00:49:54.000 And often they'll say, oh, this amnesty, it'll affect 500,000 people.

00:49:59.000 And it'll end up being far more than that.

00:50:01.000 Just in Spain, they said it'd be a few hundred thousand and it's going to be over a million.

00:50:05.000 When we did this with Reagan in the 80s, it was supposed to be farm workers.

00:50:09.000 It was going to be, I think, a few hundred thousand again.

00:50:12.000 Critically, we were going to get enforcement as part of the deal.

00:50:15.000 We got amnesty, no enforcement.

00:50:17.000 And it ended up being millions of people instead of hundreds of thousands.

00:50:22.000 They're still having people trickle in where anyone who says, oh, I did farm work in the 80s, basically they're eligible for an amnesty.

00:50:29.000 So how do you prove this?

00:50:31.000 There's just so many ways the system gets manipulated.

00:50:34.000 We've been taken advantage of.

00:50:36.000 And Charlie's response to that, my response to that, a lot of people's response to that is: we're tired of getting messed with.

00:50:43.000 We're tired of being lied to.

00:50:44.000 People who broke into this country illegally have to have accountability for what they did. 0.99

00:50:48.000 They broke the law.

00:50:50.000 They broke into America. 0.90

00:50:52.000 And I think if think about your own home.

00:50:56.000 If someone was just living in your home for a prolonged period illegally, would you want to just give them amnesty?

00:51:02.000 I think we should treat our nation like that.

00:51:03.000 Blake's point is: listen, I love your heart, and there is such a place for that in this whole conversation.

00:51:10.000 I think Mark Wayne is going to inject that at least on the face.

00:51:15.000 But here's what I would say: to Blake's point, it's been abused, manipulated.

00:51:19.000 You start making exceptions for some, they're going to make exceptions for all.

00:51:23.000 And we've seen it happen time and time again.

00:51:25.000 And I think we're just, we're just, we don't have an appetite for it.

00:51:28.000 All of them got to go.

00:51:30.000 But listen, I think in practice, we're probably going to end up somewhere in the middle.

00:51:34.000 But if we start with already, you know, making exceptions, we're not going to get much at all.

00:51:41.000 So you just got to kind of stay firm.

00:51:44.000 And I hope that's okay for an answer for you, Christine, because I don't know.

00:51:48.000 It's okay for an answer.

00:51:50.000 Yeah, it's okay for an answer.

00:51:52.000 It is a heart question for that, especially since my father was an immigrant.

00:51:56.000 Of course, he came in on his regular paperwork.

00:51:59.000 I mean, he didn't sneak into the country, but I just feel bad for those.

00:52:05.000 I'm sorry.

00:52:06.000 It was a different country back then.

00:52:08.000 We actually mandated people assimilate.

00:52:10.000 We had pride of our own culture, pride of our own convictions and values.

00:52:14.000 We made people fit in here.

00:52:17.000 And we've had such a, I liken it to a meal.

00:52:19.000 We've had such a giant meal, Christine.

00:52:21.000 We need time to digest.

00:52:24.000 And we're not capable of doing that if you just keep pouring more and more fuel on that fire.

00:52:30.000 I think that's a good metaphor.

00:52:32.000 I just, even the zero tolerance, I don't think we're going to get there.

00:52:37.000 I think once politics shift and all, it, so, I mean, it's, it's the same mess, though.

00:52:42.000 So I think we need to have answers.

00:52:44.000 I'll give you an example.

00:52:45.000 You were talking to Matt yesterday, and you were talking about checking off race or ethnicity on crime things when they got together.

00:52:55.000 Oh, yeah, Matt Van Swai, huh?

00:52:57.000 Right.

00:52:57.000 So I looked that up and our paperwork mandated by the government only has white, Hispanic, Asian.

00:53:06.000 It doesn't have the rest.

00:53:08.000 I mean, that's literally, they only changed it recently to add Middle Eastern and North African, and it's phasing in, but it'll take years and years and years for that to happen, right?

00:53:19.000 So that's just one little tiny administrative thing that we can't get the needle to move on.

00:53:26.000 I don't know how we're going to get the needle to move on something as big and large as immigration.

00:53:30.000 Well, we've been moving the needle pretty well with this administration.

00:53:34.000 We've been getting a lot of people out.

00:53:35.000 And I think pushing hard that if you're here illegally, you'll go back is really the first step to any sort of amnesty.

00:53:40.000 It has to be get the situation truly under control.

00:53:43.000 But thank you very much for your question.

00:53:44.000 Yeah, no amnesty.

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00:54:57.000 All right.

00:54:58.000 I just want to add one more other thing to Chrissy's because I feel bad.

00:55:01.000 We kind of dashed her hopes here because she's more sensitive maybe or whatever.

00:55:06.000 I'm not saying we don't need a branding change, but underlying that branding change, we can't be getting squish.

00:55:13.000 All right.

00:55:14.000 That's the whole point.

00:55:15.000 So I think Mark Wayne's going to be a very good mix of the congenial, but he's tough as nails, too.

00:55:21.000 That's my theory.

00:55:22.000 Next up is John.

00:55:22.000 All right.

00:55:24.000 John, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:55:26.000 You're next up.

00:55:26.000 Please unmute yourself.

00:55:27.000 Welcome.

00:55:28.000 Good afternoon.

00:55:29.000 How are you?

00:55:29.000 Doing great.

00:55:30.000 It's Friday.

00:55:31.000 How are you, sir?

00:55:33.000 Doing great.

00:55:34.000 My wife and I are sitting here in Tulsa, and I'll tell you, we live half a mile from Senator Mullen.

00:55:40.000 So I've got a question and maybe a couple comments if we have time.

00:55:44.000 So I'm curious if you have any thoughts on who Governor Stitt might appoint to replace Senator Mullins.

00:55:51.000 Well, some people are saying Governor Stitt might appoint Governor Stitt, but I hope that that doesn't happen, actually, because I think it's a little, it's not a good look.

00:56:01.000 You know, they need to appoint somebody because, and they don't need to do a special runoff election because it's technically already an election year for the 2027 term.

00:56:11.000 So that's seamless.

00:56:13.000 There's a lot of candidates whose names are getting floated out there.

00:56:16.000 You got Nick Hankins, Ron Meinhart, Tammy Swearingen, Wayne Washington, Kevin Hearn.

00:56:23.000 Yeah, and it's important to note that there's an Oklahoma statute that whoever he appoints cannot actually run.

00:56:29.000 Really?

00:56:30.000 Yeah, if a U.S. Senate seat becomes vacant, the governor appoints someone to temporarily fill it.

00:56:35.000 The appointed person is not eligible to run in the special election.

00:56:39.000 Wow, that's interesting.

00:56:40.000 Oh, but that's in the special election.

00:56:42.000 But what about in a normal election?

00:56:45.000 That I'm not sure, but they're not.

00:56:47.000 There's no special election.

00:56:48.000 My guess is they would have to be able to run in the special.

00:56:51.000 This gets a little complicated, but states can't really control who runs for their office past for federal office past a certain point.

00:57:01.000 That's why term limits are not allowed on federal offices because the Supreme Court says eligibility is governed by the Constitution and there's just the age and citizenship requirements.

00:57:11.000 So they might only be able to control special election, but not the general.

00:57:16.000 Yeah, the Hill says that Beis and Hearn considering Senate runs to replace Mullen.

00:57:23.000 So these are House Republicans from Oklahoma.

00:57:26.000 You probably know this better, but I've met Stephanie Beiss before and then Kevin Hearn.

00:57:32.000 So that they're considering it.

00:57:34.000 So they both posted on social media that they're considering it.

00:57:38.000 Let's see here.

00:57:39.000 I asked Tyler if he had any thoughts and he hasn't replied yet.

00:57:42.000 I think he might still be fighting in the Spice Wars as we discussed yesterday on thought crime.

00:57:47.000 So he's probably distracted.

00:57:49.000 Yeah, you're right, though.

00:57:49.000 That person will not be able to run in the election.

00:57:52.000 But the key thing is, no more Lankfords.

00:57:55.000 So just to make sure it's not a Lankford. 0.98

00:57:58.000 My vote is for ideologically as far apart from Lankford as we can get.

00:58:02.000 Yeah, so whoever he appoints will only be there for, what, six months or so?

00:58:06.000 Yeah, who do you want? 1.00

00:58:06.000 I'm pretty sure. 1.00

00:58:09.000 So we have a lieutenant governor here, Matt Pennell, and he is a very conservative Christian, has four kids, went to a Christian school here in Tulsa, and then actually graduated from my alma mater, which is Oral Roberts University.

00:58:25.000 So very conservative Christian, has done a great job as lieutenant governor of Oklahoma, and I think he would be a great option.

00:58:33.000 But we do have that unusual law where whomever Governor Stitt appoints cannot run for the next election.

00:58:41.000 And so I think potentially what Stitt's going to do is appoint someone more as a placeholder, maybe the second best choice, and then have someone like Lieutenant Governor Pinnell run.

00:58:54.000 But, you know, Bise, Hearn, I've heard all of the same ones.

00:58:57.000 But I think the key thing is we do not want another Lankford.

00:59:01.000 We do not want another Rhino.

00:59:04.000 And we need someone else in the mold of Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:59:07.000 By the way, someone said we need to move the needle on mass deportations.

00:59:12.000 Mullins will move the needle.

00:59:14.000 Yeah, why do you say that?

00:59:15.000 I'm curious.

00:59:16.000 Somebody from Oklahoma.

00:59:17.000 Yeah, he is a fighter, and he will be very diplomatic.

00:59:22.000 He will try to make friends.

00:59:24.000 But when it comes down to it, he will do what needs to be done and he will back up what he thinks needs to be done with words and deeds and actions.

00:59:33.000 Well, that's coming from an Oklahoma voter there that lives just down the street from Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.

00:59:38.000 So let's hope for the best.

00:59:40.000 Let's hope that that is absolutely the case.

00:59:41.000 And I tend to agree with you.

00:59:44.000 I think he knows not to cross the base in this way.

00:59:46.000 But yeah, I think he's going to try and work across the aisle and be diplomatic.

00:59:51.000 But when it comes down to it, I think he's going to be stiff as nails.

00:59:54.000 All righty.

00:59:54.000 Ian, I think our next guy is Ian.

00:59:57.000 Unmute yourself and what's your question?

01:00:00.000 Hi, guys.

01:00:01.000 Can you hear me?

01:00:02.000 Yes, we can.

01:00:04.000 Lord bless you all.

01:00:04.000 Awesome.

01:00:05.000 I've been praying for you guys every day.

01:00:07.000 Thank you.

01:00:08.000 Absolutely.

01:00:08.000 But yeah, I just wanted to, I had two questions, but my main one is, how can these people be saying they stand with the Ayatollah with their rainbow flags behind them when they're talking like those people like the Ayatollah and the Islamic regime would literally kill them if they even set foot in the country?

01:00:28.000 So I just, I find it mind-blowing.

01:00:29.000 I thought it was AI at first, but it's people are actually buying Iranian flags and trying to say they stood with the Ayatollah and that Trump was a bad person for it.

01:00:39.000 Is it just Trump derangement syndrome or do they just hate Trump more than they hate murder?

01:00:45.000 I'm not sure.

01:00:46.000 It is a little deeper than that.

01:00:49.000 There's this deep thing to it.

01:00:51.000 I talk about it with some friends.

01:00:53.000 We call it kind of the Calibanism, which is an obscure reference to make, but there's a character in Shakespeare's The Tempest, Caliban.

01:01:02.000 Like a savage, and he's trying to rebel against his master, and he's this cartoon figure.

01:01:07.000 And he's become this symbol for third world academics, the kind of people who push literal critical race theory, post-colonial theory.

01:01:14.000 And what I really think it is, is there's a type of person who pathologically genuinely hate the West, they hate its success, they hate its traditions, they hate everything about it.

01:01:27.000 And as a result, they'll just end up bonding to everything that is against it, no matter how incoherent that is.

01:01:35.000 And so sometimes that means embracing all of the most radical LGBT stuff because they're, of course, against Christianity. 0.95

01:01:44.000 That's part of the West.

01:01:45.000 They're against traditional Western morality as it was understood for a long time.

01:01:50.000 And so they want to tear all of that down from the left.

01:01:53.000 But then, oh, well, we also have this Islamic Republic that hates the West and it wants to blow up Israel and it wants to flood Europe and Islamify it. 1.00

01:02:02.000 And so we're going to side with that too, because it's also against the West.

01:02:05.000 It is a true pan-ideological coalition of resentment, of hate of it's not quite nihilistic.

01:02:15.000 Some of these have quite strong beliefs, but it's that what really does lie at the heart of so much of what drives them is resentment of what is beautiful.

01:02:23.000 It's like this love of ugliness.

01:02:25.000 Well, I agree with Blake that there is sort of an intersectionality to it all, right?

01:02:29.000 Where they the oppressed peoples of the world link arms, even though their underlying ideologies, you know, conflict with one another.

01:02:38.000 I'm trying to pull this clip.

01:02:40.000 I meant to do it earlier, but I found it when Blake was talking, so maybe the team can bring it up.

01:02:44.000 But there is, you know, the Islamic regime paid a 47-year-old Pakistani national to assassinate President Trump.

01:02:52.000 And apparently, this, I think they arrested him like the day before Butler.

01:02:56.000 It was really, really close.

01:02:58.000 The FBI has him under a surveillance video.

01:03:02.000 So he was actually working with somebody.

01:03:04.000 It turned out to be an FBI informant.

01:03:05.000 They arrested him.

01:03:06.000 And now he's singing like a sparrow here.

01:03:09.000 And this was all in retaliation for President Trump taking out Soleimani.

01:03:15.000 But what was interesting about it is his instructions were very simple.

01:03:19.000 Take him out at a political rally and then start a protest.

01:03:25.000 Hear me again.

01:03:26.000 And I log this as soon as it happened because it made me think of October 7th.

01:03:30.000 It made me think about what happened to Charlie.

01:03:32.000 And instantly, there was a contingent online that started getting loud and sort of protesting, celebrating.

01:03:38.000 You see this with Iran. 1.00

01:03:40.000 You see this with the next thing.

01:03:42.000 And what they learned after October 7th is that you could be the aggressor.

01:03:46.000 You could be the people that launch a terrorist attack and kill 1,200 people and then launch a protest and that the two go hand in hand.

01:03:57.000 Do you see how sinister that is?

01:04:00.000 That you could be in the wrong.

01:04:02.000 You could be evil.

01:04:03.000 You could commit evil and then still launch a protest in support of that evil.

01:04:07.000 And there will be a contingent that thinks that that's good.

01:04:12.000 They'll get behind it.

01:04:14.000 And you saw that again.

01:04:15.000 I think the most stark example of that is October 7th.

01:04:19.000 It's a new model, and they basically can be the villains and yet gain sympathy through that model.

01:04:26.000 And so I think it's really sinister.

01:04:27.000 It's something we need to be aware of, but we also need to be aware that there's paid protesters.

01:04:31.000 And we know that the next new thing, right?

01:04:33.000 The same people that are protesting BLM are going to be protesting for the Palestinians.

01:04:38.000 They're going to be protesting for Iran.

01:04:40.000 Meanwhile, you've got Iranian diaspora all over the world saying, thank you, President Trump.

01:04:46.000 We support you, President Trump.

01:04:47.000 We love this, President Trump.

01:04:48.000 So, you know, it's just, these are sinister forces that want to destabilize Western democracies.

01:04:54.000 They want to destabilize America. 0.89

01:04:55.000 And it's sick.

01:04:57.000 I don't know if I rambled on there, but Danny, how do we think they can do to make Trump look bad?

01:05:03.000 They're going to make sure.

01:05:04.000 Go ahead.

01:05:07.000 How do we even work with these people in our own country then?

01:05:10.000 How do we move forward?

01:05:11.000 It's just like this brick wall that seems to be building.

01:05:15.000 That's like I want them to be.

01:05:18.000 Deport.

01:05:19.000 Don't give any more visas.

01:05:20.000 Lots of different things like that.

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01:06:23.000 David, you're up next.

01:06:26.000 Please unmute yourself.

01:06:27.000 Hey, gents, how are you doing?

01:06:29.000 Hey, David.

01:06:30.000 Good to hear from you.

01:06:31.000 Good to hear you.

01:06:33.000 My question is, we're in California, and you hear a lot about this legislature, the legislature.

01:06:43.000 So I want to know, I try to call these people because especially those that are not in my district, because I want them to hear from me.

01:06:54.000 Am I wasting my time calling them?

01:06:57.000 Because it seemed like they're going rogue that they do what they want to.

01:07:03.000 But they always hide behind the label of a legislature.

01:07:07.000 Well, are you calling conservatives?

01:07:08.000 Are you calling Republicans?

01:07:09.000 Are you calling Democrats?

01:07:12.000 I call mostly Democrat because most of them are Democrats that are all in lockstep.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, I mean, I hate to say it.

01:07:19.000 I don't think you're wasting your time.

01:07:20.000 It's good that they know that they have people in and around their district that disagree with them.

01:07:28.000 But they're still going to do one thing.

01:07:29.000 They're going to look and they're going to say, I live in a D plus 20 district.

01:07:34.000 Go pound sand.

01:07:36.000 Because they know that they're just going to get re-elected.

01:07:38.000 And that's a sad truth of California being a very radical state in many ways with many radical far-left districts.

01:07:46.000 And they're just going to do the simple math and disregard you.

01:07:50.000 I hate to be that blunt, but that's oftentimes as deep as they're thinking about it.

01:07:53.000 It's never bad to make your voice heard.

01:07:55.000 But in general, with contacting your representatives, it is sort of a proximity thing, which is you'll have the most impact if they are your representative.

01:08:03.000 And then if you're in their state, they'll maybe kind of hear it because, you know, they have aspirations to run for Senate or something.

01:08:09.000 And then if you're from across the country, it's just going to matter less.

01:08:13.000 But sometimes you just call in and you'll still shape the sentiment maybe on a controversial issue.

01:08:18.000 And their staff are going to tell their members, oh, yeah, we've been getting tons of calls on this issue, and they think XYZ.

01:08:25.000 But there's other ways to get involved.

01:08:28.000 If you're concerned about political stuff, there's show up at town halls, show up at your local city council events, show up where you can make your voice heard in other ways.

01:08:40.000 And I love that.

01:08:43.000 We're not the early Republic anymore.

01:08:44.000 It is sadly harder always to really have a direct impact on politics.

01:08:50.000 Honestly, this is a great idea that Blake has.

01:08:52.000 Show up at city council meetings.

01:08:55.000 You can apply to address the city council.

01:09:00.000 Make your voice heard that way.

01:09:01.000 Those get clipped a lot.

01:09:02.000 Those end up going viral.

01:09:03.000 You can make some really good points.

01:09:05.000 And that's a great way to generate popular support locally.

01:09:08.000 You can also go to the town halls, ask questions, push back.

01:09:11.000 Those clips.

01:09:12.000 So use the power of the internet.

01:09:14.000 Use the power of video.

01:09:15.000 Also, turning point action, you know, if you want to get involved, one of the best ways to get involved is at your local precinct level.

01:09:23.000 And also, there's ways to contact your representatives online.

01:09:28.000 You can get out mass mail, mass email campaigns.

01:09:32.000 You can get mass call campaigns.

01:09:34.000 So there's different ways to do this.

01:09:36.000 But then, you know, become a ballot chaser.

01:09:37.000 Volunteer.

01:09:39.000 Work with your local GOP to help drive out low-propensity Republican votes.

01:09:44.000 Those are all really important ways to get involved, I would say.

01:09:47.000 That might be just genuinely a better return on investment.

01:09:51.000 Who do you got next?

01:09:53.000 I think we have, we have at least one more here.

01:09:55.000 Sorry, I don't have the right open.

01:09:57.000 Mick, yeah, let's help you.

01:09:58.000 Yes, sir.

01:09:59.000 Hey, Mick.

01:10:00.000 I want to say, God bless that caller earlier in the show who has a heart.

01:10:05.000 I don't have it.

01:10:06.000 I'm Gen Z. I'm faded.

01:10:08.000 I've seen my town turn, and I want things to change.

01:10:13.000 And so I'm glad that we have Noam on her way out and Senator Mullen on his way in.

01:10:19.000 And I have some high expectations.

01:10:21.000 I want to see numbers go up.

01:10:23.000 In an ideal world, I'd like to see a million interior removals a year.

01:10:30.000 Do you think that's possible?

01:10:31.000 And what other expectations should we set, excuse me, should we set for Senator Mullen as he goes into the cabinet?

01:10:39.000 Well, so I'd love to see a million a year.

01:10:41.000 Yeah, so Charlie's thing was Project 10 million, right?

01:10:44.000 So just so you know, that right now, DHS is operating with a 3,000 arrest quota a day, 3,000.

01:10:51.000 So that would take you to 1 million, basically 1,100,000, if you would.

01:10:59.000 So that's a benchmark that they're shooting for.

01:11:04.000 Now, there's an argument to be made that you should get rid of the quota because you actually might get more.

01:11:10.000 The argument is that the quota system basically mandates that these guys are having to go out into the community and raid local businesses, raid whatever.

01:11:19.000 And people, that tends to be where a lot of the drama is happening.

01:11:23.000 And there's another theory of the case that you could do it more discreetly.

01:11:28.000 And again, this expression, maybe it's just an expression, but commas, meaning millions, not drama, comma, not drama.

01:11:36.000 So, you know, the theory is that you could go in, work with local municipalities if you sort of take that quota system off the table and end up with a bigger number at the end of the year.

01:11:46.000 I think it's all TBD, right?

01:11:49.000 What I can tell you is that here's why I feel bullish on this whole thing.

01:11:54.000 Stephen Miller is still operating at the White House.

01:11:59.000 He's still lurking in the shadows, haunting all the Democrats' dreams.

01:12:02.000 And I'm telling you, it's wonderful because he's going to be working directly with Senator Mark Wayne Mullen.

01:12:08.000 He is the architect of this interior enforcement in many ways.

01:12:12.000 And he has, through the One Big Beautiful bill, this funding has created a whole system.

01:12:18.000 You got to understand, when Obama was getting all these numbers, it was just handoff at the local jail.

01:12:23.000 We have never equipped ICE agents to go out in the field like we have equipped them now to do this interior enforcement.

01:12:28.000 We've never had this large of a wave of illegals come in before. 0.96

01:12:32.000 And so, yes, there's going to be a change in leadership, and there's going to be probably a change in tone, a change in collegiality, and all of these things, which could be really helpful.

01:12:41.000 We saw this with Homan, Tom Homan, in Minneapolis.

01:12:46.000 But ultimately, you have to maintain a posture that everybody who's here illegally is on the table to be deported and that we are going to be working with Stephen Miller, the architect of the interior enforcement, to get over a million a year.

01:13:01.000 Plus, you're going to get self-deportations.

01:13:03.000 That's another thing.

01:13:04.000 You know, one of the things that I found extraordinarily frustrating was that they were advertising on Fox News.

01:13:09.000 You got to do Spanish ads for Spanish speakers.

01:13:12.000 I mean, that's what she got in trouble for. 1.00

01:13:13.000 She was advertising herself.

01:13:15.000 And kind of, in truth, I think she was trying to make herself look good to the president because she knows the president watches Fox News. 0.77

01:13:22.000 And, I mean, I heard it on the radio here and I was on some country station probably listened to by a Republican voter.

01:13:30.000 Same idea.

01:13:30.000 It's almost, it's marketing to the base.

01:13:32.000 And so it's politically oriented rather than deportations oriented.

01:13:38.000 Yeah.

01:13:38.000 And if Mark Wayne Mullen comes in and says, I'm not going to be making myself famous, except as the bane of the left's existence, I'll be very happy with that outcome.

01:13:48.000 As you say, commas, not drama.

01:13:50.000 And I would just, I'm just going to put this out there because I want people to be bracing for this.

01:13:56.000 They could do something like DACA on the table in exchange for Blue Cities to play ball. 0.99

01:14:02.000 And we have to brace ourselves for that because that's going to be the new battle line.

01:14:07.000 And if you get Blue Cities, though, Los Angeles, New York, all of these cities to sort of come to heal, then you could get more.

01:14:15.000 And it's going to be the next debate.

01:14:17.000 I'm telling you.

01:14:18.000 I'm warning you.

01:14:19.000 So put that on your crystal ball, if you will.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 06, 2026

No Squishing on the Border! + AMA 256

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