The Charlie Kirk Show - November 27, 2025


No Stupid Questions on Ukraine and More


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In this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie and his co-host Blake discuss the new peace deal between Ukraine and the EU. They discuss the details of the deal and what it means for the future of Ukraine. They also answer listener questions.

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00:01:22.000 Charlie had to get out of the chair super quickly one day, and I was like, Blake, explain everything that Charlie just said to me because I don't know what we're talking about.
00:01:29.000 So this is the no dumb questions.
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00:01:44.000 And then Daisy, you have just some of your own questions.
00:01:47.000 Yes, I quickly, well, at first, I just wanted to start with Blake, what actually is on the table in this Ukraine peace.
00:01:55.000 Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
00:01:56.000 We wanted to hit that.
00:01:57.000 We've talked about Ukraine a lot this week, but we wanted to hit, just actually lay out what everyone is talking about.
00:02:04.000 And I especially wanted to, because I think this peace deal you've heard about is one that Charlie would have liked a lot and he would have been a big fan of it.
00:02:11.000 So there's this 28-point plan.
00:02:13.000 This is what came out a week ago.
00:02:16.000 And then there's been efforts to modify it where Europeans have proposed counterplans.
00:02:20.000 But I think the nicest thing is the 28-point plan because it seems this was worked on by the administration directly.
00:02:27.000 And so point one, it says, Ukraine's sovereignty will be confirmed.
00:02:32.000 Okay, that's a formal one.
00:02:34.000 Sovereignty confirmed.
00:02:35.000 That is a fancy way of saying Ukraine will remain a country.
00:02:38.000 It will remain independent.
00:02:40.000 It will not be annexed.
00:02:41.000 It will not be absorbed by Russia or anybody else.
00:02:44.000 It'll remain a country.
00:02:46.000 And it then says, this is, and point two is actually one of the most important.
00:02:50.000 It is there will be a comprehensive non-aggression agreement between Russia, Ukraine, and Europe.
00:02:54.000 And then this is key.
00:02:55.000 All ambiguities of the last 30 years will be considered settled.
00:02:59.000 This is why I was a fan when I read this plan, that the intent of this is to be a final peace treaty with no outstanding business.
00:03:08.000 And when we've seen Europe try to mess with this, a big way they've tried to mess with it is by introducing ambiguities back into it.
00:03:16.000 So an important part of this plan, one of its components is it would cede land to Russia, more or less.
00:03:23.000 Let's put up that image we have.
00:03:25.000 122.
00:03:26.000 Yes.
00:03:27.000 And so 122, is it up yet?
00:03:30.000 Yes, there it is.
00:03:31.000 And so what it would do is those areas in red are roughly match places that are currently held by Russia that America, the international community have considered part of Ukraine.
00:03:43.000 And these are the places they've captured.
00:03:44.000 Crimea in the south, which is now covered by our Chiron, but Crimea was taken about a decade ago.
00:03:51.000 These others were taken during the invasion.
00:03:53.000 This would formally cede them to Russia.
00:03:56.000 It would now be owned by Russia.
00:03:57.000 We would acknowledge Russian territory.
00:03:59.000 That's the key.
00:04:00.000 That is the key part.
00:04:01.000 They were previously and have always been a part of Ukraine.
00:04:04.000 Not always.
00:04:04.000 Well, so, yeah, so they were part of Ukraine at its independence.
00:04:08.000 Ukraine became independent from the Soviet Union in 1991.
00:04:13.000 And so when they became independent, they took all those lands.
00:04:16.000 Russia has had claim on some of them, well, has generated claims on some of them.
00:04:20.000 There's been a long source of conflict.
00:04:22.000 They invaded over the status of many of these territories, and that is roughly the area that they have conquered by force of arms.
00:04:30.000 And this deal would recognize those captured territories as Russian.
00:04:35.000 That's part of the removing ambiguities thing.
00:04:38.000 So was Russia's initial intent to take over all of Ukraine or to take these.
00:04:45.000 People would debate it.
00:04:46.000 Russia's stated intention for invading Ukraine was to denazify it.
00:04:50.000 They claimed Ukraine was run by Nazis.
00:04:53.000 That is highly debatable as an assertion at minimum.
00:04:58.000 But it does seem their initial plan, they did, they attacked directly towards Kiev, the nation's capital.
00:05:05.000 They literally had paratroopers land at the airport of the city.
00:05:09.000 They seemed to believe that Ukraine was a very weak country and would just collapse almost instantly once attacked.
00:05:16.000 And in fact, if you follow the news story, then a lot of Americans expected the same thing.
00:05:20.000 The Biden administration seems to have offered, oh, Zelensky, you can flee the country and just come to America.
00:05:28.000 And Zelensky, I will say to his credit, did not do that.
00:05:31.000 I know Charlie Mani has had a lot of criticism of Zelensky on justified grounds, but he did not.
00:05:37.000 And they fought a lot harder than they expected.
00:05:40.000 So I think one reason Charlie would support this deal is he would probably believe Russia would be inclined to respect a final peace settlement because this war has been a lot longer, a lot bloodier, a lot more expensive, a lot rougher on everyone than was expected.
00:05:57.000 A lot of wars are like that.
00:05:59.000 So is this a win for either party or is this a pretty mutual compromise?
00:06:05.000 I'll try to take the Charlie thing and say the biggest winners of all would be the Ukrainian people who are not conscripted and fed into a meat grinder so that Washington can feel good about themselves and how they're fighting Russia and being tough on Russia.
00:06:19.000 You know, we don't need to kill a bunch of Ukrainian 18-year-olds so Lindsey Graham can feel tough. 1.00
00:06:25.000 Having said that, the peace deal would be seen, I would say, as a victory more towards Russia because it is better for Russia than the deal that was on the table before the war began, that Russia was offering to us.
00:06:39.000 What were they offering?
00:06:40.000 Russia's deal that they were proposing in early 22 was essentially: if you agree that Crimea is part of Russia, because they'd already occupied that, if you agree not to admit Ukraine into NATO and not position certain military forces close to Russia, they were proposing a peace deal along those lines.
00:07:00.000 So it would have had them have less land and it just would have involved fewer concessions than this agreement would have.
00:07:08.000 Why does Russia not want Ukraine and NATO?
00:07:12.000 So the most helpful way to think of it is Ukraine, from the Russian perspective, is like the has long been a part of their country.
00:07:21.000 That Russian culture began in Kiev and it was part of the Russian Empire for hundreds of years.
00:07:29.000 You're reminding me of Tucker's interview with Putin.
00:07:32.000 Exactly.
00:07:32.000 Yeah.
00:07:33.000 Yeah.
00:07:33.000 Tucker asked Putin about Ukraine and he gives this literal half-hour answer about the history of Ukraine.
00:07:39.000 But the core of it is, from the Russian perspective, they see Ukraine as this core part of Russia.
00:07:45.000 And so it would be, imagine if America had a really devastating thing and New England broke away and became its own country.
00:07:55.000 And obviously, we have a lot of political differences from New England.
00:07:58.000 So, you could see how they'd possibly be happy to be independent from us.
00:08:01.000 Or text us.
00:08:03.000 But I wanted to go with New England, where America began.
00:08:05.000 Sure, yeah.
00:08:06.000 And then imagine China came along and was suddenly cultivating New England as an ally and talking about adding them to the Chinese Belt and Roadblock.
00:08:15.000 And, you know, maybe we should put some military forces in New England.
00:08:18.000 We can maybe put a nuclear missile there.
00:08:20.000 And I think even though we would see a lot of political differences with New England, oh, it's full of all these insane libs and commies, we would still be really upset by that. 0.53
00:08:28.000 That's the best way to do it.
00:08:29.000 It's sort of like the Cuban missile crisis.
00:08:31.000 I mean, which is more extreme than that.
00:08:32.000 Because you've never owned Cuba. 0.52
00:08:34.000 No, but Cuba being so close to us, we had this Cuban missile crisis in the 1960s because Russia was positioning arms right on the in Cuba, which is what?
00:08:46.000 Like, what's the 90 miles to 40 miles before?
00:08:50.000 And that was a huge, huge geopolitical issue of the time.
00:08:54.000 This is when kids were in schools were learning to get under their desks and having to do these nuclear fallout drills.
00:09:02.000 So, you know, the boomer generation remembers this.
00:09:04.000 And so it's sort of akin to that, where, you know, you could imagine having a hostile military force, NATO, which is considered one of the most robust, well-funded military alliances in the world.
00:09:16.000 It's probably the most robust.
00:09:17.000 Having that at your doorstep is not a very promising or delightful idea for the Russians. 1.00
00:09:22.000 So when they say that they are basically they're covering all, I think you said, conflicts over the last 30 years, putting those to rest, that means then that Russia, they would be at peace with the parts of Ukraine that they have gotten back.
00:09:43.000 Yes.
00:09:43.000 And they would be saying we will not demand anything more, and we in return would end the sanctions.
00:09:49.000 We reintegrate Russia into the global economy. 0.99
00:09:52.000 The objective of the peace deal would be a true peace deal, not just a ceasefire, not just we stop shooting, that this is considered the resolution of the conflict.
00:10:02.000 And I know Charlie very badly wanted that.
00:10:05.000 He thought it was dumb that we were in this new Cold War with Russia going on forever when we have conflicts with China, for example.
00:10:13.000 I think he viewed this as a distraction and a product of Washington being unable to move on.
00:10:19.000 An absolute waste, by the way, of American taxpayer dollars and munitions.
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00:11:28.000 All right.
00:11:29.000 More dumb, no dumb questions.
00:11:31.000 No, they're not dumb.
00:11:32.000 There's no such thing as a dumb question this hour.
00:11:34.000 You get to ask exactly what you're doing.
00:11:36.000 But you get to watch me learn them live on air.
00:11:38.000 Yes, this is the appeal.
00:11:39.000 The reason that Blake and I have to do no prep for these segments at all is because these are genuine questions that I have.
00:11:45.000 You have to ask them.
00:11:46.000 And I'm willing.
00:11:47.000 I bet.
00:11:47.000 I'm willing to be the dumb person.
00:11:49.000 I bet many people in the audience have the same questions.
00:11:51.000 So keep going, Daisy.
00:11:52.000 So, what we just talked about, America paying for a lot of this war.
00:11:58.000 I know that we've obviously been doing that for a long time.
00:12:01.000 That's been a huge topic of conversation, especially on this show.
00:12:05.000 My question is: why are we the ones that presented this peace deal?
00:12:10.000 Like, are we just the first ones to come up with these ideas that, hey, you guys could have this?
00:12:16.000 So, the war is between Russia and Ukraine, but certainly from Russia's perspective, their argument is that Ukraine is just a puppet state of America.
00:12:24.000 And also, America is, it is America that keeps the war, that makes it so Ukraine can fight the war.
00:12:30.000 We've given them hundreds of billions of dollars in munitions, in economic aid.
00:12:35.000 We give them a lot of intelligence.
00:12:37.000 We are the ones who are enabling the war to keep going.
00:12:42.000 And Trump has sort of waffled back and forth whether he wants to cut off aid to Ukraine or deciding actually Russia's the problem.
00:12:48.000 He's sort of clearly had his attitude on the conflict evolve just over the past year.
00:12:54.000 And his goal, he's the one who also is probably the most avid believer that this should end in a peaceful resolution.
00:13:01.000 When you're in a war, you get more radicalized, you get more intense about it.
00:13:05.000 And I think that's probably the perspective of both a lot of the Russians and the Ukrainians.
00:13:10.000 The Russians think we've lost a million casualties, according to some reports, trying to take this.
00:13:16.000 We should demand the whole country.
00:13:17.000 And you have Ukrainians who are like, we can never yield anything. 1.00
00:13:21.000 And America is the player who can exert the most pressure overall to try to bring this to a peaceful conclusion.
00:13:30.000 Yes.
00:13:30.000 Okay, that makes sense because we, which I do have another longer question about this once we come back from break about America and Ukraine being allies, but it makes sense that we have been aid to Ukraine and then Russia, which was a big part of Trump's election.
00:13:46.000 Russia respects Trump's leadership.
00:13:51.000 So they've said.
00:13:53.000 So are we the only country that could have presented this?
00:13:57.000 I think so.
00:13:58.000 We're the only country that seems serious about it.
00:14:00.000 A very frustrating thing that's happened over and over is Europe, which is not contributing as much as America, has gotten much more interested in keeping the war going forever.
00:14:10.000 And what Charlie would complain about is they want the war to go forever.
00:14:13.000 They want people to keep dying, but they have no serious plan to make the situation better for Ukraine.
00:14:19.000 This is from Sherry.
00:14:20.000 It says, Hi, guys.
00:14:20.000 Why is no one reporting or talking about Ukrainian corruption?
00:14:24.000 Currently, many scandals, stolen money, blowing up pipelines, killing Christians, biolabs, and human sex trafficking. 1.00
00:14:31.000 Why no investigations into who all is getting kickbacks?
00:14:34.000 Well, you know, what's funny, this is actually that popped up as part of the peace deal because I believe the original proposed peace plan has an aspect to say, oh, and as part of the peace deal, we'll do an audit for financial stuff because that's important to Trump to make sure the money was used well.
00:14:50.000 And the revised peace plan that was promoted by the Europeans tweaks this to there shall be a full amnesty for all actions during the war, which I think a lot of people who have seen how much corruption there is, there are people in Ukraine who, while their country's been fighting, have become centimillionaires off of aid money.
00:15:10.000 It's always been a very corrupt country.
00:15:12.000 It's one of the worst things about it.
00:15:13.000 Well, and I know that there's been a little kerfuffle and a fallout with MTG, but I will say MTG was very good on this particular issue.
00:15:20.000 She was demanding full accountability and a full accounting of where all of America's dollars have gone.
00:15:25.000 And I support that idea still.
00:15:26.000 Daisy, you have a long one that you would like to ask.
00:15:28.000 Well, I think it's going to be a longer explanation, but we were talking about why the U.S. is the only country that's positioned to present this peace deal to Ukraine and Russia.
00:15:38.000 My question, and I don't think this is a dumb question specifically.
00:15:42.000 I think that a lot of people my age would have this question because growing up, you hear a lot about who our allies are.
00:15:51.000 There are so many conflicts that we've gotten in that haven't made sense, but it's like, okay, we do have a long-standing agreement or relationship with this country that it makes sense that we're in these conversations.
00:16:02.000 I was not aware, and I don't really know why we are allies with Ukraine until this all started happening in 2021.
00:16:10.000 So, the question is: why are we allies with Ukraine?
00:16:12.000 Yeah, and when did that start?
00:16:14.000 To some extent, that is a good question.
00:16:16.000 So, we had this and we thought we had to have this on air.
00:16:20.000 Are you familiar with what the Cold War is, Daisy?
00:16:23.000 Okay.
00:16:23.000 So, Blake asked me this.
00:16:25.000 And yeah, to some extent, I believe it is about communism, and I do not think that it was actual boots on the ground conflict.
00:16:35.000 And I also do believe that it was at some point in maybe the 90s, maybe the 80s.
00:16:47.000 That's 80s.
00:16:48.000 All righty, there we go.
00:16:49.000 I love Gen Z so much.
00:16:51.000 So, the Cold War was Russia used to be the Soviet Union, the USSR.
00:16:55.000 Much bigger country.
00:16:56.000 Ukraine was part of it.
00:16:57.000 Belarus was part of it.
00:16:58.000 All those stands you can see in Central Asia, they were all part of it.
00:17:01.000 It was a much bigger country.
00:17:03.000 And it was communist.
00:17:04.000 It wanted to spread communism.
00:17:05.000 It was an ideological state seen as a huge threat in America and the West, as it should be.
00:17:10.000 They were promoting atheism.
00:17:11.000 They opposed free enterprise.
00:17:12.000 They opposed election.
00:17:14.000 They just very bad country.
00:17:16.000 And we stood against them.
00:17:17.000 We had our allies in NATO, in Western Europe, opposed to the USSR.
00:17:22.000 Fortunately, communism doesn't work.
00:17:24.000 So their economy went down into the toilet.
00:17:26.000 They began to have ethnic fractiousness because it was a multi-ethnic empire.
00:17:30.000 And because diversity is not always a strength, everyone.
00:17:33.000 And so in 1991, the Soviet Union collapses.
00:17:36.000 It breaks into a bunch of pieces.
00:17:38.000 1991, Russia's, did I say 1999?
00:17:40.000 Yeah, 1991.
00:17:41.000 They fracture apart, and Ukraine is one of the breakaway parts. 0.55
00:17:45.000 Other countries break off.
00:17:46.000 Russia's the biggest piece left. 0.94
00:17:49.000 And what I would say is, there we go.
00:17:51.000 The reason, frankly, we're allies with Ukraine is even after this happened, we essentially remained hostile with Russia.
00:18:01.000 Why that happened?
00:18:02.000 We'd need a whole hour to get into the details of why that happened.
00:18:05.000 I can detail here because we've talked about NATO.
00:18:08.000 NATO was a reaction to the USSR and the encroachment of Soviet Russia or communist USSR. 0.59
00:18:16.000 And so one could ask a larger question of why they're not going to be able to do that.
00:18:21.000 Why did NATO exist?
00:18:22.000 Why did NATO still exist?
00:18:23.000 And instead, what we did is we, after the war, almost from a fit of just like idealism or because it was sentimentalism, like, oh, these new countries are democracies.
00:18:33.000 It'd be cool if they could join our cool democracy club.
00:18:36.000 We expand NATO.
00:18:37.000 So we add Poland, Hungary, Estonia.
00:18:40.000 We add all these countries in Eastern Europe that used to be communist and allied with the Soviets.
00:18:44.000 And if you're Russia, the only possible justification for this is, oh, you're expanding your anti-Russia military alliance to be closer to Russia.
00:18:52.000 And so that hurt relations a lot.
00:18:56.000 And I think there's also just a lot of lingering anti-Russia paranoia.
00:18:59.000 If you're a 65-year-old veteran of the military, the first entire half of your career was, oh, we're still hostile towards Russia.
00:19:07.000 You grew up with the Cold War.
00:19:10.000 And so we've cultivated, because of this, we've cultivated Ukraine as this anti-Russian country.
00:19:16.000 And Ukraine has differences with Russia on a whole bunch of things.
00:19:18.000 There's reasons they're in conflict with each other.
00:19:21.000 And that's, we basically, why are we allies with Ukraine?
00:19:23.000 We're allies with Ukraine because we are not friendly with Russia is the biggest reason.
00:19:28.000 You have to also understand that one of the key motivators for Vladimir Putin, who came of age when the USSR fell, is that he sees that as a really giant mistake, that it was allowed to fall.
00:19:40.000 So all of those countries right there that were allowed to basically become independent and secede from Russia or the USSR.
00:19:48.000 And so he is, a lot of people suspect, one of his key drivers is that he wants to reunite the lost pieces of the USSR.
00:19:55.000 And he sees Ukraine as the apple of Russia's eye.
00:19:59.000 Okay, so then that leads into my next question.
00:20:02.000 What makes Ukraine different than any of these other countries that I'm looking at on this map?
00:20:06.000 Like, are they going for Ukraine and then they're going for the other ones next?
00:20:09.000 That's what people who don't like Russia would say.
00:20:12.000 What I think Charlie would argue, and I would agree, is Russia has made it clear they view Ukraine as different.
00:20:18.000 It was part of Russia longer.
00:20:20.000 A lot of the people there are ethnically Russian.
00:20:23.000 A lot of people there speak Russian.
00:20:25.000 It was that historical heartland of Russia.
00:20:28.000 Russia's repeatedly said, we think Ukraine is way more important.
00:20:31.000 So, for example, Finland borders Russia.
00:20:34.000 They joined NATO over this invasion, and Russia said, we're okay with that.
00:20:37.000 It's not the end of the world for us.
00:20:39.000 But they have said, we will not allow Ukraine to join NATO.
00:20:42.000 And part of this 28-point peace plan says Ukraine can't join NATO.
00:20:46.000 NATO can't have troops in Ukraine.
00:20:48.000 And in fact, it still says you can treat it as a violation of NATO's self-defense if we invade Ukraine again, but you just can't have them join.
00:20:55.000 Well, I think that's something Charlie would say.
00:20:57.000 I think that makes it really key is Crimea, which we can explain in just a second.
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00:22:13.000 All right, Daisy, you have a good question.
00:22:15.000 I do feel like I am in a way like the sacrificial lamb asking these.
00:22:20.000 This is great.
00:22:20.000 Don't do it, please.
00:22:21.000 This is a good question.
00:22:22.000 I don't even know what Crimea is.
00:22:24.000 I'm looking for it on the map.
00:22:25.000 I don't know if it is a country or if it is a city.
00:22:28.000 So Crimea is the peninsula at the south end of Ukraine on the map.
00:22:34.000 It kind of looks like it might be an island, but there's a tiny little land bridge connecting them.
00:22:38.000 Right here.
00:22:39.000 This little thing right here.
00:22:41.000 Yep.
00:22:42.000 So is it a country or a city?
00:22:43.000 So it is a territory.
00:22:46.000 And what it was is, historically, it wasn't even part of Russia.
00:22:49.000 They got it somewhat later than other parts of Russia.
00:22:51.000 It was owned by Muslims.
00:22:54.000 There was the Crimean Tatars.
00:22:56.000 There were these warlords who would ride out and they would attack Christians and take them away as slaves.
00:23:01.000 We should also ask what Khrushchev's.
00:23:03.000 And so we'll get into that.
00:23:04.000 We'll get into that.
00:23:05.000 And so Russia fights wars against the Muslims.
00:23:08.000 finally conquer it and what's very important about this is it's legally was part of ukraine even like when so it wasn't even first of all it was originally part of russia It was just a part of Russia.
00:23:21.000 And it was settled by Russians because originally it was just a Muslim territory.
00:23:24.000 So you just have to bring in new people to settle it.
00:23:26.000 So they settle Russians there. 0.99
00:23:28.000 They build military bases.
00:23:30.000 And it's part of, this is in the 1700s into the 1800s.
00:23:34.000 During the Soviet Union period, so this is in maybe around 1960.
00:23:40.000 Just because he is sentimental about it, Nikita Khrushchev is the leader of the Soviet Union.
00:23:47.000 Nikita Khrushchev says, it's been 300 years since Ukraine and Russia have been one country.
00:23:54.000 So to honor this, I'm going to just transfer Crimea from being administratively part of Russia to being administratively part of Ukraine.
00:24:02.000 And to him, he considers it totally irrelevant because they're both just part of the same country.
00:24:06.000 There's no real difference between them.
00:24:07.000 It's just, yeah, we're a big, we're a big happy family.
00:24:10.000 It's like giving a gift to one of your kids or something.
00:24:12.000 Yeah.
00:24:13.000 When did this person do this?
00:24:14.000 He did it around 1960.
00:24:15.000 I don't know the exact year, but that's around when he did it.
00:24:18.000 And it would have never mattered, except then the Soviet Union breaks up and they break up exactly along their internal lines within the USSR.
00:24:26.000 So Crimea is a region of Ukraine, but it has no ethnic Ukrainians.
00:24:31.000 No one speaks Ukrainian there.
00:24:34.000 They speak Russian.
00:24:34.000 It has a major Russian military base.
00:24:36.000 And if you're Russia, your attitude is this Russian place is part of Ukraine for no reason other than Nikita Khrushchev being this dumb guy who wanted to make a sentimental gesture.
00:24:47.000 And so they were really upset about that.
00:24:50.000 So when there was previous political turmoil in Ukraine where a pro-Russian government got overthrown, a pro-U.S. government came in instead, Russia freaks out and says, all right, we're just taking this.
00:25:01.000 And they send in troops into Crimea.
00:25:04.000 This was during the Obama years.
00:25:05.000 During the Obama years.
00:25:06.000 And Ukraine is weak at this time.
00:25:07.000 They can't fight back.
00:25:08.000 Russia takes it basically without a shot.
00:25:11.000 And one thing that's important is almost everyone agrees the vast majority of Crimeans are completely fine with this.
00:25:19.000 They are Russia. 0.93
00:25:20.000 They're being a part of Russia. 0.71
00:25:21.000 Yeah, they actually wanted to be part of Russia.
00:25:23.000 So there's very little resistance to this.
00:25:25.000 Anyone who is opposed to it leaves pretty quickly.
00:25:29.000 And one of the things that has stopped peace is Russia has said we are categorically never giving Crimea back to Ukraine.
00:25:36.000 You have to understand.
00:25:37.000 So the Black Sea Fleet base in Sevastopol is Russia's only warmwater naval base in the Black Sea.
00:25:43.000 So that means that from a military standpoint, Crimea is strategically like, I can't stress how important it is to them.
00:25:51.000 So this part is what their naval base is based on.
00:25:54.000 Exactly.
00:25:54.000 So they were saying, like, if you try to attack Crimea with land troops, we will use nuclear weapons the way we would if you attacked Moscow or St. Petersburg.
00:26:02.000 This is what they project power into the entire Mediterranean, the Middle East, Africa.
00:26:06.000 That is their launching.
00:26:07.000 So there is no peace deal on the table if Russia does not get Crimea.
00:26:11.000 Russia, I believe Russia would categorically never accept it.
00:26:14.000 They will never, never.
00:26:15.000 And we have no way to take it back for that matter.
00:26:17.000 By the way, can you throw up that map again?
00:26:19.000 I think it was, I forget what the number is.
00:26:21.000 It was 122.
00:26:23.000 If you could take the lower banner off as well for this, you can see.
00:26:28.000 So all those areas.
00:26:29.000 Take the banner away.
00:26:29.000 There we go.
00:26:30.000 All those areas in red are basically Russian-speaking, ethnically Russian.
00:26:35.000 And what's interesting, too, is if you go back to throw up 270, I'll never forget this.
00:26:41.000 This was right at the beginning of this conflict.
00:26:45.000 Elon Musk put up this tweet saying, redo the elections of the annexed region.
00:26:49.000 So what he was going to say is, like, hey, let's skip the million casualties.
00:26:52.000 Let's just do an election run by the UN in those regions.
00:26:58.000 And Ukraine told him to go pound sand.
00:27:01.000 It lost even on its poll, right?
00:27:03.000 And then he said, Crimea formerly part of Russia as it's been since 1783 until Khrushchev's mistake.
00:27:08.000 So literally, we could have, we're basically going to end in the same place, but instead of UN supervision of these elections, we're just giving them to Russia now, is essentially what we're going to do.
00:27:18.000 But we just have a million casualties and billions of dollars wasted.
00:27:22.000 This was always where this was going to end.
00:27:24.000 I got an email from Tara.
00:27:25.000 I watch on RAV every day, and this is the best show ever.
00:27:28.000 This 55-year-old really needs this history lesson.
00:27:31.000 Thank you from Tara.
00:27:32.000 Tara, thank you so much for making me feel less like a moron.
00:27:36.000 Yeah, you got 55-year-olds and Gen Zers uniting for this 300-year-old Russian history lesson. 0.89
00:27:43.000 So do we want to keep.
00:27:45.000 Do you have more questions?
00:27:46.000 We just covered crime.
00:27:47.000 We did promise a lot of, we promised other topics.
00:27:50.000 We can keep going on this if you guys want, but we do have, do we want to do any of the voicemails, Daisy?
00:27:55.000 Yeah, we totally can.
00:27:56.000 I think we should probably, let's, we can start with 224.
00:28:00.000 This is from Steve.
00:28:02.000 I went through a lot of them.
00:28:03.000 They were pretty good, but these were the ones that I also had questions about.
00:28:09.000 All right.
00:28:10.000 Good morning.
00:28:11.000 Let me say that I love Charlie Kirk.
00:28:15.000 I miss Charlie Kirk.
00:28:16.000 And my best to Erica and all of the team there at Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action.
00:28:24.000 My question is this, and the cities of Seattle, Washington, Memphis, and all cities where Trump is sending the National Guard, what happens when the National Guard leaves and we have a corrupt city council, mayor, police chief, etc.
00:28:46.000 Thank you, and God bless you for all you do.
00:28:51.000 Well, that's the crux of it.
00:28:54.000 What I think I would point out is even in D.C., a lot of what the National Guard has done has primarily been, I think you'd agree, symbolic.
00:29:04.000 It's having, you have the image of people maintaining order in big, prominent public places.
00:29:10.000 This does free up manpower.
00:29:11.000 It frees up police to send more guys to dangerous places to make arrests for other things.
00:29:17.000 But so much of it is also just the bigger, it's the miasma.
00:29:22.000 It's the vibe that's going on.
00:29:23.000 Think about what 2020 was.
00:29:25.000 Murder rates go up 30% overnight, not just in places where there's riots.
00:29:30.000 They go up in Sioux Falls, South Dakota.
00:29:32.000 We had 19 murders that year, a huge increase from others.
00:29:36.000 It was like the country had this psychotic break where it was more okay with committing crimes.
00:29:41.000 People were more violent and police were less willing to stop them.
00:29:45.000 And what Trump's doing with the National Guard deployments, it's less that the guard are literally arresting people and literally stopping crimes.
00:29:53.000 And much more, it's a bid to say crime is unacceptable in America, especially in our best cities, in our capital.
00:30:00.000 And we are going to treat it as a problem that must be resolved.
00:30:03.000 And if not, there will be consequences.
00:30:06.000 And you're trying to shift, Charlie loved that word, the Overton window towards crime is a serious thing, you must stop.
00:30:13.000 And away from what we routinely see, where city officials just don't view crime as a problem.
00:30:18.000 They want to dismiss charges, throw out charges.
00:30:22.000 We had that case, I believe it was in Chicago, where this guy set a woman on fire and he had, what, 50 prior arrests, 100 prior arrests?
00:30:29.000 72.
00:30:30.000 72 prior arrests.
00:30:31.000 72.
00:30:32.000 And by the way, we've seen instance after instance of this.
00:30:34.000 And this was, and it's almost like the, what's the, what would be a word for it?
00:30:39.000 It's like, it's like the zeitgeist, the spirit of the time or something, where you got from the 90s.
00:30:45.000 The 90s was an era where we started policing cities.
00:30:49.000 We flooded urban cores with a lot more police officers.
00:30:53.000 And you saw crime precipitously drop in LA, New York, and big cities all across the country.
00:30:59.000 So the spirit of the age then was tough on crime.
00:31:01.000 That's when we got the three strikes rule in California. 0.99
00:31:04.000 And then cities started gentrifying because they were safe to invest in.
00:31:08.000 So business money floods in.
00:31:10.000 Property values skyrocket.
00:31:13.000 And we sort of forget the lessons of the 90s.
00:31:15.000 And slowly but surely, we stop.
00:31:18.000 We forget the fact that we once lived in a high crime urban core and we lived with these problems.
00:31:23.000 So then guess what?
00:31:25.000 That's what started happening in 2014 with the Ferguson.
00:31:29.000 We had the Ferguson effect.
00:31:30.000 That was kind of the first iteration of the Black Lives Matter movement.
00:31:33.000 And then boom, 2020, we had the George Floyd riots.
00:31:37.000 And it's like all of the lessons of the 90s went out the window.
00:31:41.000 And here's what else happened.
00:31:42.000 We have had this slow infiltration.
00:31:44.000 And you would agree with this, I believe, Blake, within especially the legal system where we started basically treating crime as, well, what race are you?
00:31:54.000 What's your background?
00:31:55.000 Have you been systemically oppressed by the system?
00:31:57.000 And this would spill over in Canada.
00:31:59.000 You just straight up had actually, I think in Washington state, a court said, oh, you actually just have to consider what race someone is in terms of how much you punish them for committing crime.
00:32:08.000 Because there was a lot of hocus pocus going on with the data, right?
00:32:10.000 Because they would essentially say, well, look at too many black people are incarcerated versus their white counterparts or their Hispanic counterparts.
00:32:18.000 Well, and the truth, sadly, is, and I actually was tweeting about this.
00:32:22.000 Elon gave me a quote tweet this morning because I said, We don't have enough people in prison and we don't have enough capacity either.
00:32:28.000 That's a thought crime for you.
00:32:29.000 We don't have enough prison capacity.
00:32:31.000 But, anyways, there's this hocus-pocus, this kind of woo-woo going on with the numbers saying, Well, then black people must be over-policed. 0.96
00:32:37.000 Well, the truth is, is that unfortunately, a lot of black people tend to congregate in the urban core, and there's more crime in the black community. 1.00
00:32:44.000 This is something Charlie was unafraid to address head-on and directly, and he took a lot of flack for it, but it's just the case.
00:32:50.000 And so, we stopped policing, we stopped punishing, and we started letting people off.
00:32:55.000 And guess what happens when you do that?
00:32:57.000 You get a spike in crime, and we've had that spike in crime since George Floyd.
00:33:01.000 Now, a lot of people will then say, Well, look at DC, Blake, crime was down 35%.
00:33:06.000 We don't need the National Guard.
00:33:07.000 Well, it turns out that they were cooking the books.
00:33:10.000 There was a big investigation that was ongoing within the MPD, within the DC police department, where supervisors were going around telling police officers to downgrade serious felonies, violent felonies, so they didn't show up on the FBI crime statistics.
00:33:25.000 So, my belief is that this is a national epidemic, that they're doing this in cities all across the country.
00:33:30.000 They're downgrading serious felonies so that the crime rate looks artificially low.
00:33:36.000 And you get this vibe from places like Chicago and Memphis and D.C., where they will tell you crime may be going down statistically, but I don't feel safer.
00:33:46.000 I don't feel the crime rate going down.
00:33:48.000 Yeah, and so much of this is the word you'd use is disorder, which is it's not just the literal violent crime, it's these casual seeding of the public space to anti-social elements.
00:34:01.000 So, that's what you know, tent cities of homeless guys just kind of moping about, or even this is actually a very mild one.
00:34:07.000 But for example, in on subways and in public buses, you're not supposed to play loud music, just you know, blast your phone on speakerphone.
00:34:17.000 And what is a 100% known phenomenon is that there will be young men who just go and, as a performatively hostile act, they'll blast their music really loud.
00:34:26.000 Sound pollution, yeah, sound pollution.
00:34:28.000 And you, everyone just has to put up with it because, okay, if it's like if it's a young, if it's a young black man, a 55-year-old guy is not going to go up, or a young woman is not going to go up and say, turn your music off, that's inappropriate.
00:34:40.000 Because we'll be frank, they'll be worried they'll get killed or assaulted or something really horrible.
00:34:46.000 Or someone will record them on their cell phone and blast this Karen on TikTok. 1.00
00:34:52.000 And the way you have to stop that is you actually have to have authorities, the authorities punish this.
00:34:57.000 Or think of something that's non-violent: turnstile jumping.
00:35:00.000 How demoralizing is it for you to be this, you know, this sucker who has to pull out, who's pulling out your card to pay $3 to ride on the subway train, and then you see teenagers jump over it, get on, no one stops them.
00:35:14.000 You have to stop these low-level things.
00:35:16.000 That is so important to the public's morale since they live in a successful society.
00:35:20.000 I think so.
00:35:21.000 So much of the public debate nowadays is between chaos and order.
00:35:25.000 You said disorder.
00:35:26.000 It's chaos, which is the Democrats seem to love it.
00:35:29.000 They seem to sow chaos into the system by their policies, by their pandering to criminals and illegal immigrants.
00:35:37.000 They always seem to pick the side of the illegal immigrant, the criminal, the systemically oppressed, over-law-abiding American citizens. 0.60
00:35:45.000 And I think that's what we saw in 2024: finally the country said enough.
00:35:49.000 And so they want more aggressive policing.
00:35:52.000 They want more muscular policing.
00:35:53.000 And you just have to, to your point, kind of full circle moment, you have to assert a new Overton window.
00:35:58.000 You have to assert a new zeitgeist that says, we are going to be a law and order country.
00:36:03.000 We don't have to live like this.
00:36:04.000 You can just do things, right?
00:36:05.000 So, but by the way, the caller's question was, Blake, what happens when you get corrupt new leadership in town?
00:36:11.000 Well, unfortunately, you're probably going to revert back to the chaos and the disorder of corruption, right?
00:36:17.000 And so that's why local elections matter.
00:36:19.000 That's why we have to keep our pedal to the metal and keep insisting on law and order, keep insisting that we lock up career criminals.
00:36:27.000 You know, Blake, I actually believe.
00:36:29.000 Let's get into it.
00:36:30.000 Hold on.
00:36:30.000 I just actually believe that if you incarcerated, let's say there's probably 500,000 people in this country that deserve to be imprisoned that are not.
00:36:37.000 Let's just say maybe that's a low number.
00:36:39.000 But if you got rid of the career criminals, you would see crime dry up really quick.
00:36:44.000 All right, let's see.
00:36:44.000 We have got more of these.
00:36:46.000 Do you want to do the Iowa one?
00:36:47.000 Yeah, let's see.
00:36:48.000 Okay, I have no idea what this is going to be.
00:36:49.000 Let's do 269 from Scott.
00:36:52.000 As a voter in Iowa, home to the Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman, I want to ask your view on how that committee's delay and rigid adherence to the outdated blue slip process contributed to this week's outcomes regarding James Comey and Letitia James.
00:37:11.000 So, my question before we get to his question is: I don't know.
00:37:16.000 I don't even know what he asked because I don't know the blue slip committee.
00:37:21.000 It's a good question.
00:37:22.000 An aspect of so the president appoints judges.
00:37:25.000 They're called Article III judges.
00:37:27.000 So it's not just the Supreme Court.
00:37:28.000 Trump can appoint people to the Court of Appeals and to the District Court.
00:37:32.000 And a lot of district courts are they match basically state boundaries.
00:37:37.000 So, for example, there's the Southern District of New York.
00:37:40.000 That is a federal court.
00:37:41.000 It covers southern New York, where New York City is.
00:37:44.000 Or I think there's a district for South Dakota.
00:37:46.000 There's a district for different parts of California.
00:37:49.000 There's a bunch of these.
00:37:51.000 And by tradition, when you've nominated judges to serve on these district courts in a specific state, it's been with some approval of the senators from that state.
00:38:05.000 And so, what that has meant, for example, is you get more conservative judges, even under Democrat administrations, in red states, and you get more liberal judges in blue states because they're going to have these blue senators who will not allow you to just appoint whoever you want.
00:38:21.000 And this has, I guess, you could say the upside of this would be you get you have judges who are a little more in line with their states, but the downside is obvious.
00:38:28.000 A lot of our most important jurisdictions, New York City, the Bay Area, Los Angeles, they're in these blue states that are just going to have blue judges.
00:38:38.000 And you get more liberal rulings as a result when, okay, we've had these Republicans in office for so long with the Senate.
00:38:44.000 Why don't we have more conservative courts that are delivering conservative rulings on things? 0.98
00:38:49.000 How much is this playing a role in things?
00:38:51.000 It definitely is playing a role.
00:38:52.000 I don't think it played a super specific role in the Comey ruling.
00:38:57.000 So here's the deal: this is Judge Cameron McGowan Curry.
00:39:03.000 So she was actually from, she was appointed by President Bill Clinton, who's a Democrat, in March 1994.
00:39:11.000 But she originally was to the U.S. District Court of South Carolina.
00:39:15.000 At the time, a blue slip policy wasn't in effect.
00:39:17.000 And guess who was chairing the Senate Judiciary Committee at the time?
00:39:20.000 Was it already Grassley?
00:39:22.000 He's been around.
00:39:22.000 No, it was Joe Biden.
00:39:23.000 Oh, whoa!
00:39:25.000 Yeah.
00:39:25.000 Joseph Robinette Biden.
00:39:27.000 Get this.
00:39:27.000 South Carolina's two senators in 94 were Strom Thurman, a Republican, and Ernst Hollings, a Democrat.
00:39:34.000 And both the Republican and the Democrat gave a positive blue slip on that particular norm.
00:39:40.000 An important thing, the blue slip is a thing, and we probably should move on from it and get actual conservatives in court.
00:39:47.000 But there's so many other things, and one of those is just we have to be really good about who we're putting in courts because conservatives have for a long time lagged on treating these as hugely important ideological actions to get really conservative people with good values into court positions.
00:40:03.000 All right, let's throw up that image 273 when you guys have it.
00:40:07.000 This is Judge McGowan, Cameron McGowan.
00:40:10.000 So she has been around since the 90s being a federal judge. 0.60
00:40:15.000 And so, listen, you would probably say, Blake, that you were a little skeptical of Lindsey Halligan's appointment, right?
00:40:24.000 So you're not necessarily surprised.
00:40:25.000 They're going to appeal this.
00:40:26.000 They're going to have a second bite of the apple here.
00:40:28.000 Well, it's challenging because the Trump administration has, they've been assertive.
00:40:33.000 They've pushed a lot.
00:40:34.000 They put pressure on a lot of norms because they'll look at, for example, the blue slip thing and say, wait, why do we do this?
00:40:41.000 We just intentionally make ourselves weaker.
00:40:42.000 We have a majority in the Senate.
00:40:44.000 We could appoint someone else, and we're just not.
00:40:46.000 That's also clearly what's driving President Trump on the filibuster.
00:40:49.000 I think he says he's the kind of guy who will say, oh, we have this thing where we can't pass legislation because we need 60 votes, but we can get rid of it.
00:40:57.000 Why are we not getting rid of it?
00:40:59.000 That's how Trump approaches a lot of these things.
00:41:01.000 And so similarly with this Halligan thing is this is where you have a real tension in the system because the president can appoint U.S. attorneys.
00:41:09.000 He can fire U.S. attorneys, but they're supposed to be Senate confirmed.
00:41:13.000 And there's a law that says a judge can appoint an interim one, but the president can fire them too.
00:41:18.000 That's actually just a real crisis.
00:41:19.000 What do you do if a judge can appoint someone and the president can fire them instantly?
00:41:23.000 That's an impasse.
00:41:24.000 That's bad law design, in my opinion.
00:41:26.000 Well, but you're also hitting at something that's really key to understanding the Trump era is this idea of norms, customs, traditions.
00:41:34.000 Some of them feel arbitrary in our current moment.
00:41:36.000 It's why Charlie loved to talk about the importance of the John Adams thing.
00:41:40.000 We need a moral and religious people.
00:41:42.000 We have laws, but the laws have to be buttressed by good disposition, good norms, good moral behavior.
00:41:49.000 That's right.
00:41:50.000 This is interesting.
00:41:52.000 Priscilla says, not chaos versus order, chaos versus control.
00:41:58.000 Flashback to the get smart TV series of the 1960s.
00:42:01.000 I didn't watch that one.
00:42:04.000 This one says, Robert says Blake is ignorant of the pre-2022 history of Ukraine.
00:42:09.000 Maybe we should dive into that email and see if there's any.
00:42:15.000 He says I'm spouting neocon BS.
00:42:17.000 Oh, no offense, Robert.
00:42:21.000 I take that a little personally.
00:42:23.000 What I'm trying to do is I am trying to be fair-minded.
00:42:26.000 So I've repeatedly referenced what Russia's perspective on it would be, what those opposed to Russia's perspective on it would be, because that is what is dictating things.
00:42:36.000 I assure you, I'm not a neo- Are you unaware that the state of Ukraine and its borders were arbitrarily made by Lenin and Stalin in 1922 as one of the USSR's Soviet republics?
00:42:45.000 That's true.
00:42:46.000 All right.
00:42:47.000 Oh, this is great.
00:42:48.000 Kevin says, Andrew, I've heard Memphis officers call into Memphis morning news that confirm what you were saying.
00:42:54.000 Crimes are being downgraded here in the mid-South area to keep the statistics down.
00:43:00.000 Y'all continue to do the work that needs to be done in Christ, Kevin.
00:43:03.000 Thank you.
00:43:04.000 I told you it was a national phenomenon because you had the spike after George Floyd, and all these blue cities wanted to be like, it's not, we're not crime-ridden here.
00:43:12.000 Don't worry.
00:43:12.000 Nothing to see here.
00:43:13.000 It makes perfect sense.
00:43:15.000 Okay, we have another voicemail.
00:43:16.000 We are in the no dumb questions hour.
00:43:19.000 268 is the next voicemail.
00:43:22.000 Yeah, let's just listen to it and then I have something to say.
00:43:26.000 Hello, this is Ben from Central Florida.
00:43:28.000 Wondering what the administration is going to do about what's going on in Ethiopia, Somalia, Nigeria, with all the Christians being persecuted and being killed.
00:43:38.000 Would love to know what Trump plans on doing and helping.
00:43:43.000 Okay, so one, I think this is a really good question.
00:43:45.000 But two, I want everyone to know the reason I know about this situation is from Nikki Minaj, who has been talking about it everywhere.
00:43:55.000 She's doing press conferences, she's tweeting.
00:43:57.000 I know Riley and I have been talking about it a lot.
00:43:59.000 Nikki Minaj is really, really in on this Ethiopian crisis for Christians.
00:44:05.000 Which is interesting because she's not from she's Trinidadian, I believe, right?
00:44:09.000 From Trinidad and Tobago in the Caribbean.
00:44:12.000 I haven't let me find out, though.
00:44:15.000 Yeah, I believe so.
00:44:17.000 I don't know if she now I'm looking at.
00:44:21.000 Can I just while you're looking this up?
00:44:23.000 So on October 31st, Trump designated Nigeria as a country of particular concern.
00:44:28.000 On November 1st, he threatened to halt all U.S. foreign aid and deploy military guns ablazing if killings continue.
00:44:37.000 November 2nd, ordered the Pentagon, referred to as Department of War, to prepare for possible action, including troops or airstrikes.
00:44:46.000 And then November 21st labeled the violence a genocide against Christians during a Fox News interview.
00:44:51.000 So he's been ratcheting up his language.
00:44:53.000 And of course, this is about Boko Haram, which is a radical Islamist group that is targeting.
00:44:58.000 If you want, we talked about Ukraine being a somewhat unnatural country with Russian portions. 1.00
00:45:03.000 Nigeria is an insanely unnatural country of Africa. 1.00
00:45:08.000 It literally is on a scale.
00:45:10.000 If you start at the south of Nigeria, you have Christian areas, mixed, mix, mixed.
00:45:15.000 You get up into the north, and it's not just Muslim, it's radical Muslim.
00:45:19.000 They're trying to Boko Haram roughly translates as Western knowledge forbidden or like education forbidden. 0.59
00:45:29.000 They'll do things, they do insane atrocities.
00:45:32.000 They'll kidnap Christian girls and turn them into sex slaves for their soldiers. 0.99
00:45:38.000 Nigeria should very obviously.
00:45:41.000 I'm probably going to start a diplomatic incident by just saying this.
00:45:43.000 Nigeria should not be one country. 1.00
00:45:45.000 Nigeria should probably be several countries.
00:45:46.000 Maybe the Nigerians will get angry about this, but it's, you have, I mean, some estimates place it at almost 125,000 Christians have died between 2023 and 20, I'd be on the high level. 1.00
00:45:59.000 It's.
00:45:59.000 It's a nation almost evenly split between Christians and Muslims, but I believe the Muslims are growing faster.
00:46:05.000 So that's a very dire situation to be in if you're a Christian in the South.
00:46:10.000 And then it's the same thing.
00:46:11.000 Why is Ethiopia the same issue? 0.91
00:46:13.000 Ethiopia is historically one of the oldest Christian countries in the world.
00:46:17.000 It's been Christian since I believe the 300s or the 400s.
00:46:20.000 I have a story here.
00:46:21.000 And they, but the country is, it's large.
00:46:26.000 It has a lot of Islamic areas.
00:46:28.000 So it has a lot of civil strife and Christians get caught in the crossfire.
00:46:31.000 And certainly we're seeing that our administration has at least adopted it as something worthy of interest for us to care about the fate of Christians around the world.
00:46:41.000 Philip in the Bible went to Ethiopia.
00:46:44.000 Yes, and he baptized the Ethiopian eunuch as well.
00:46:49.000 So one thing I will say that was very telling.
00:46:53.000 So I actually got an Uber ride.
00:46:55.000 The guy was Ethiopian, and we were talking about Islam in Ethiopia.
00:47:00.000 And he said when he was growing up, there was a very small minority of Muslims in Ethiopia.
00:47:04.000 And he remembers playing with them as a kid.
00:47:07.000 They sort of minded their own business.
00:47:09.000 They were a small, small minority.
00:47:11.000 But now, he said it's probably about like 30% in his area of Ethiopia.
00:47:15.000 And he said, now they're taking over.
00:47:17.000 They're taking over the streets.
00:47:18.000 They're taking over public places.
00:47:20.000 They're worshiping aloud.
00:47:21.000 They've got the Muslim call to prayer.
00:47:23.000 And he was like, I warn you in America, don't let this happen.
00:47:27.000 They will take over.
00:47:28.000 And this is places they can get a lot more aggressive about it.
00:47:31.000 These are weak states.
00:47:33.000 You don't have a police force that can come and enforce order.
00:47:36.000 You can have an aggressive, assertive Islam take over a city, kill a lot of people. 1.00
00:47:42.000 And what I will say is Charlie would oppose more U.S. boots on the ground in more countries.
00:47:46.000 He didn't want foreign wars, but he would like that for once America does treat the survival of Christians as a priority abroad. 0.84
00:47:54.000 We invaded Iraq. 0.90
00:47:55.000 We did all these interventions.
00:47:56.000 And almost always Christians died in the crossfire. 0.82
00:47:59.000 So it's nice for us to acknowledge that that's bad.
00:48:01.000 By the way, Rich says that we forgot that the Ukraine was the breadbasket of the former USSR.
00:48:06.000 Very true.
00:48:06.000 That's a very fair point.
00:48:07.000 That's true.
00:48:08.000 It's where all the food was.
00:48:09.000 That was fun.
00:48:10.000 This is a lot of fun.
00:48:10.000 People want more history content.
00:48:12.000 We've got to find more history stuff.
00:48:13.000 We could keep going if we want.
00:48:15.000 We bid you adieu.
00:48:15.000 Happy Thanksgiving.
00:48:17.000 We will see you next week.