Trump's Front Row Joes is a behind-the-scenes look into the movement behind the scenes with Sean Spicer, Steve Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Donald J. Trump. It's the story of the people who are the backbone of the MAGA movement, who are at every rally supporting Donald Trump. They are the "front row joes" of the movement, and it's no surprise that they are the most important people in the movement. Join us on this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show with Charlie and Sean as they discuss this new movie and more! Subscribe to our podcast and get involved with Turning Point USA atTPusa.org/TheCharlieKirkShow and become a member. For the first time ever, a behind thescenes look at the energy and energy behind the movement with Stephen Kavanagh, Donald Trump, and Marjory Taylor Greene. The movie is available on Amazon Prime and Blu-ray on October 31st, 2019. This episode was produced by Charlie Kirk and Sean Spicer and is brought to you by SalemNow.org. Thanks to our sponsor, Noble Gold Investments. Learn how you could protect your wealth with Noble Gold Investing. That's where I buy all of my gold. Go to NobleGoldInvestments.com/Investments and get 20% off your first month with discount code: CHALLENGE at CHALKERLEKIRK. That's $20 OFFERING $5 or more than $50 OFF YOUR FIRST MONTH! CHALLERRY! CHALLOWING $10 OFFER $5 OFF $25 OFFER, $35 OFF $45 OFFERED, $50 OR $75 OFF $100 OFF $99 OFF $150 OR $150 OFF $135 OFF $137 OFF $175 OFF $179 OFF $200 OFF $250 OR $135 OR $175 OR $179 OR $159 OFF $170 OFF $159 OR $189 OFF + VIP? CHANGE $24 OFF + $179? CHANGE THAT? CHECK OUT OUR VIP PROMO CODE: CHANGE YOUR MODE? - CHALLOT $25 OR $99 OR $255 OFF $255 OR $192 OFF $192 OR $276 OFF $276 OR $208 OFF $212 OFF $5 OR $212 OR $167? ChANGE $150? And CHANGE MY MENTIONED IN A FRIENDS FREE PRICING?
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00:03:46.000For the first time ever, a behind-the-scenes look into the energy that's changing the world, with Stephen K. Bannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, and Donald J. Trump.
00:04:31.000I want to make a point, or hit on something that you just said, because earlier you said something, and I think your audience probably gets this, but for most candidates, when they want to have a rally, they'll spend money.
00:04:48.000They'll be like, can we sit, can we offer pizza or we got a band playing or whatever.
00:04:52.000Trump literally sends a tweet out and they have to hope that they have enough capacity.
00:04:57.000And that really, the point that you made is so important to understanding this movement because the folks on the left and the media dismiss it.
00:05:06.000And so we sought out these guys, the men and women who make up the Front Row Joes, Start going to events and, and the, the ranks grow.
00:05:19.000One, one event in the, in the movie, we go to a rally in Pennsylvania and it's pouring rain for days, not the day off for the days.
00:05:27.000And they're there three, four, five days early sleeping in their car, putting on plastic bags over their head, isn't in there under their shoes.
00:07:50.000If he screws up, he has a lot to lose.
00:07:52.000I just don't, I don't have real high expectations for tonight, Charlie.
00:07:56.000I think to me, I'm going to be watching the moderators.
00:07:59.000I'm going to be watching what CNN does to bring up issues, to go after Trump, to silence Trump.
00:08:05.000I think that's where I'm going to be more fascinated.
00:08:08.000Maybe that's just because of my background, but I don't really think the needle's going to move that much tonight either, unless something catastrophic happens.
00:08:15.000I think that this is going to reinforce what everyone thinks and supports about Trump and the Biden people will get what they want unless Trump hands, which is very possible, a couple of zingers in there.
00:08:26.000But the people that are going to move the needle tonight are the people that are, you know, have already, they know both candidates and they're looking for a policy prescription on something.
00:08:37.000I just don't think that there's a lot of room.
00:08:40.000This is the first inning in a nine inning game that ends in November and we're in June.
00:08:45.000You're going to have a VP pick, a convention, and a ton of get out the vote efforts.
00:08:50.000I know Turning Point's extremely involved in that effort as well.
00:08:54.000But people aren't going to wake up after one debate tomorrow morning and say, you know what?
00:09:22.000A movement to change how we elect our president is growing, led by radical left-wing activists who don't think their side should ever have to lose the presidency again.
00:09:32.000It seeks to do away with the Electoral College as devised by the framers of our Constitution.
00:09:36.000Today, 18 states have signed on to overhaul how presidents are elected.
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00:11:29.000So first of all, I want to know what the over-under is that Trump just doesn't walk over to Biden's podium and start speaking from that mic.
00:11:37.000He's always got something up his sleeve.
00:11:56.000There's always something going on and I don't know what it is now, but I think tomorrow morning we're going to wake up and go, I did not see that curveball coming.
00:12:04.000That being said, I will tell you that I think it still benefits Trump because one, Biden's going to react to whatever he's saying.
00:12:12.000We might not be able to hear it, but Biden will be.
00:12:16.000Number two, It's not just the verbal that it's, it's those facial expressions.
00:12:22.000It's the hand gestures that Trump so masterfully uses that those also have an impact.
00:12:28.000And so we'll still see a split screen and we'll know that Trump is reacting and he understands the full spectrum of tools, right?
00:12:38.000And I think at the end of the day, it all benefits Trump because he knows how to use it better.
00:12:43.000And frankly, that's never been Biden's thing.
00:12:46.000I still think tomorrow morning, when you think back through history, Nixon, Kennedy, Reagan going after Mondale about age, Kitty Dukakis, the question about Kitty Dukakis that Bernard Shaw offered to Michael Dukakis about rape.
00:13:01.000There's no question tomorrow we're going to be talking about some clip.
00:13:04.000And my guess is that that clip will be Donald Trump going after Joe Biden in some way.
00:13:24.000And I would just caution people, when you see the CNN flash poll tonight, don't believe it.
00:13:31.000It doesn't, that won't, the flash poll, look, the one thing I will tell people, Charlie, I've been doing this a long time, is that this tonight is like watching a game.
00:13:40.000First of all, it's an away game for Donald Trump.
00:13:42.000I mean, he's playing at CNN headquarters with two CNN hosts.
00:14:01.000And so how they do tonight doesn't necessarily change the trajectory of the race.
00:14:07.000Even if there's a good moment, objectively, as a Trump supporter,
00:14:10.000you could say, oh, that was a good answer by Biden That doesn't change it.
00:14:13.000I think overall, net net, if Trump does what you were saying a moment ago and comes out in the way that I think a lot of us want him to, which is to focus on the record, which is unbelievably compelling and heads and shoulders in every aspect above where Biden's is now, he wins all the time.
00:14:30.000And he just needs to remind people of that.
00:14:33.000So I think that the, The deck, quote unquote, might be stacked against Trump, but the issues and the playing field are stacked against Biden.
00:14:43.000So he's gotten all these advantages logistically, that being Biden, but you can only do so much of that, right?
00:14:51.000And that's why I'm thinking, I think even though all of these things favor Joe Biden, at the end of the day, if the only two things you can say, he's going to say three things tonight, and probably in this order.
00:15:01.000Convicted felon, abortion, and democracy under attack.
00:17:01.000I think a lot of Americans don't think of the collapse of civilizations as something that could happen to them.
00:17:06.000You hear collapse of civilizations and you think that's something that happens to the Roman Empire or the French monarchy.
00:17:12.000We forget that we saw the collapse of an entire civilization within the lifetimes of people now living, within my lifetime.
00:17:19.000And that was the collapse of the Soviet Union.
00:17:21.000So I was delighted to see the eminent historian, Neil Ferguson, write a brief, somewhat cheeky column, wondering whether America today is in the same position that Soviet Union was in 1989.
00:17:34.000And I absolutely knew I had to chime in and support that comparison because I think it's spot on.
00:17:39.000The essence of being in a late Soviet state is that nobody's free and nothing works.
00:17:44.000And I think both halves of that equation apply to America today.
00:17:59.000Well, I don't think I need to convince anyone listening about the nobody's free part.
00:18:03.000When you have a regime that's trying to put the main opposition candidate in jail on trumped up charges, that's pretty transparently unfree.
00:18:11.000And I also don't think I need to tell anyone here that you can't trust what you read in the New York Times today any more than the average Soviet citizen could trust what they read in Pravda.
00:18:20.000But when it comes to the nothing works side, I think that's actually some place where Neil Ferguson, the great historian, underplayed his argument a little bit.
00:18:28.000He drew the comparison between America today and the Soviet Union then by looking at the size of government, that our deficits are on track to be 5% of GDP.
00:18:38.000That's certainly bad, but that doesn't get to the heart of the problem.
00:18:42.000People forget that what killed the Soviet Union wasn't big government.
00:18:47.000Obviously, they did have a big government, but the bigger problem was that they were a command economy.
00:18:53.000All of the incentives in their economic system were oriented towards greater production, And none of the incentives were towards greater efficiency.
00:19:00.000Another aspect of the Soviet Union was that they were bizarrely a net food importer.
00:19:06.000Which, if you think about it, is one of the strangest things imaginable.
00:19:09.000Russia has some of the most fruitful farmland on the planet, and yet they were importing their food.
00:19:14.000And that's because they forgot that it's actually really important to be able to feed your own citizens from your own land.
00:19:21.000When I look at that aspect of the Soviet collapse and then I look at America today, it makes me think of de-industrialization.
00:19:29.000We've forgotten as a country that you actually can't have an economy based on services and advertising and finance.
00:19:36.000It really matters to be able to make stuff in your own country.
00:19:40.000Uh, we instead think that the industries of the future are going to be things like higher ed or healthcare, which are two of the most dysfunctional and least capitalist parts of our modern so-called capitalist system.
00:19:54.000So when healthcare is one sixth of our economy and no aspect of how people get paid in the healthcare system makes any sense at all, or is connected to any kind of market mechanism that looks to me.
00:20:05.000Like a society where the economy is just fundamentally not working in the way that the Soviet economy was.
00:20:13.000Yeah, and so this is a very important point.
00:20:16.000You would know this better than I would.
00:20:18.000Would the 1% of the 1% in late Soviet times, did they think things were going well?
00:20:26.000Because that is really the interesting phenomenon.
00:20:29.000The richer you are and the more cloistered you are, the better you think things are going.
00:20:33.000Was that the case also in late-stage Soviet Union?
00:20:38.000I was a little bit annoyed to read some of the responses to the column that I wrote.
00:20:41.000Somebody said, how can we be in a state of collapse?
00:20:44.000I just ordered dulce de leche ice cream on DoorDash, right to my door.
00:20:48.000And I thought, well, okay, I'm sure it's great for you that you can do that, but that doesn't mean things are going well as a country.
00:20:54.000In the Soviet Union, you're absolutely right.
00:20:56.000The privileged people led lives of great privilege, so it was easy for them not to notice how badly things were going.
00:21:02.000The other thing that camouflaged how badly things were going in the Soviet Union is that prior to the 1980s, the record of the Soviet Union in improving the standard of living was actually pretty okay.
00:21:15.000A lot more Soviet citizens owned televisions, they owned cars, they had more disposable income to spend on food.
00:21:21.000If you were a Russian citizen who had lived through, say, World War II, And then compared that to your life in the 60s and 70s, you would have thought the socialist system is actually doing pretty okay by me.
00:21:33.000And so the Soviet leaders used that to kind of pressure people.
00:21:38.000into thinking the system was doing better than it was.
00:21:40.000They said, don't you remember all the good things we've done for you?
00:21:44.000Isn't your life today so much better than it was back in the bad old days of the siege of Leningrad or whatever when you were starving?
00:21:51.000And I see our leaders doing a little bit of that today.
00:21:54.000They say, aren't you grateful for everything capitalism has given you?
00:21:57.000And I think, well, yes, I think America's economy has done great things, but that doesn't change the fact that the record of governance of our leaders since at least 2000 has been very poor.
00:22:08.000Well, it's also, what are we thankful for?
00:22:11.000We're thankful for, we're drawing down an inheritance that this current ruling class had no, had nothing to do with.
00:22:17.000We're drawing down the inheritance of probably 50 or 60 years or even hundreds of years removed.
00:22:22.000And it really makes you wonder without abundant natural resources, And us being the global reserve currency status, how we can keep this up.
00:22:29.000That is a theory that I have is that we have, we have it so well in the West that the woke is only possible.
00:22:38.000I know that people don't like it, but I use it just as a cutesy filler term.
00:22:42.000It's only possible when you're able to have a economy configured the way we have.
00:22:48.000And so you say nobody is free and nothing works.
00:22:52.000Is there ever a breaking point where, when things really stop working, we're going to decide to reverse course?
00:22:58.000Or do you think this is just the beginning of a slow-motion collapse?
00:23:04.000I think we absolutely will reach a breaking point the same way the Soviets did.
00:23:08.000And the only question is whether that'll be a breaking point in a good direction or in a bad direction.
00:23:13.000One of the more obvious parallels between us today and the Soviet Union then is that our leaders are really old.
00:23:19.000We all know the jokes about Brezhnev and Chernenko and Andropov falling asleep in the middle of meetings.
00:23:24.000There was a stretch of decades there when everybody who ran the Soviet Union seemed to be aged about 93.
00:23:30.000Well, you look at the White House today and Congress today and you think our leaders are getting pretty old too.
00:23:36.000And one of the reasons why gerontocracies develop in political systems is because the older generation is clinging to power and they don't trust what the younger generation is going to do with it.
00:23:48.000In the Soviet case, it was because most of the younger generation was just too cynical.
00:23:52.000They saw what socialism was producing, and they just didn't believe in it anymore, somewhat naturally, since it wasn't working.
00:23:59.000So the older generation resisted handing off power to them.
00:24:02.000I think there are similar pathologies here in the United States.
00:24:05.000And once we finally reach the point when generational turnover is unavoidable, when the older generation of congressional leaders have to hand off to somebody younger, I think that might be the breaking point.
00:24:46.000Boomers, which is a fan favorite of our audience, which we always receive nasty emails about.
00:24:51.000But is there, so I was just at an event in Sun Valley, and it was amazing.
00:24:56.000And there was a lot of anxiety from the audience, more than I thought, about the direction of the country.
00:25:01.000But some, not all, some would take me aside and they'd say, Charlie, the bombast and the idea that America is The Soviet Union is an exaggeration.
00:25:22.000That's the number one reason why boomers are the way they are.
00:25:26.000When you think about everything that comes to your mind, when you hear the term boomers, It's because they inherited a civilization that was prosperous and cohesive and almost the best civilization that has ever, you know, existed on the planet, certainly in the top five.
00:25:41.000And they thought that that was the natural order of things.
00:25:44.000They thought it would always be that way.
00:25:47.000And so they lacked an understanding of how badly things can go, how you need to really avoid making mistakes in order to prevent your civilization from going off course.
00:25:57.000One of the criticisms or the pushbacks against the Soviet comparison that I hear most often from boomers is The Soviets had to build walls to keep people in, whereas we in the United States, we need to build a wall to keep people out.
00:26:13.000There are tons and tons of people who want to come here.
00:26:15.000And that certainly wasn't true of Moscow in 1985.
00:26:19.000And I hear that and I think, I know why that line makes sense to you.
00:26:24.000But the fact that millions of people are flooding into our country and our leaders are doing nothing to prevent it actually doesn't make me feel better.
00:26:34.000about the state of our civilization or the trajectory it's on.
00:26:37.000Did you come up with that, nothing works and no one is free and nothing works?
00:28:38.000So Helen, let's talk about this continually culturally.
00:28:42.000Of all the groups, and again, I'm not here to boomer bash.
00:28:44.000There's a lot of great boomers out there.
00:28:46.000There's great people in every generation.
00:28:47.000However, I want you to talk about your book here.
00:28:51.000Donald Trump, just talking politically, because he represents cultural trends, is doing better with younger voters, better with Black voters, better with Hispanic voters.
00:28:58.000I was just with Scott Rasmussen, who backed me up on this.
00:29:00.000The only demographic where Joe Biden is doing better than his 2020 numbers, substantially, is with boomers.
00:29:09.000I think because boomers have been running the country almost for as long as they've been alive, and they've set up the system to favor themselves.
00:29:19.000So a lot of boomers look at America and they say, America's already great because it's going great for them.
00:29:25.000They have all the houses and they're in all of the positions of power.
00:29:28.000So because the system is set up to favor them, they don't feel like America needs revolutionary, really pressing, dramatic change.
00:29:35.000When for everybody else who's living in the world the boomers made, the need for dramatic change, Trump change, is pretty obvious.
00:29:44.000Yeah, and so is there a reluctance, essentially, towards revolutionary change in that generation?
00:29:53.000Or at least, things are actually going pretty well.
00:29:56.000Oh, they were very much into revolutionary change back in the day, back before they were the ones in charge.
00:31:00.000And once you realize that those were the same people, it starts to come into focus that actually the philosophy of both of those eras isn't so different.
00:31:30.000They want things to be nice and easy for themselves.
00:31:32.000And they've been the largest demographic, which means the largest voting block, the largest block of consumers, which means that advertisers and companies want to attract boomer customers because there are more of them than there are of anybody else.
00:31:46.000So they've really been flattered and coddled by the political system, the economic system, so they don't have any reason to want to take into account the way other people might see things.
00:31:57.000So, Helen, what is your response to some of the audience members that say, we are the greatest generation, we've sacrificed so much as boomers, and you who are not boomers are not allowed to criticize us?
00:32:09.000I say, look at the civilization that you've handed off.
00:32:13.000All of the institutions that were intact when they were handed over to the boomers are now broken and in need of repair.
00:32:21.000Our political system is one that no voters trust anymore.
00:32:26.000Trust in our political institution has collapsed.
00:32:30.000The churches are in decline now that the liberals of the Boomer generation have gone in and monkeyed with mainline Protestantism, which is in a state of total demographic collapse.
00:32:41.000So just look at what's happened to the Episcopal Church or the Methodists and you can see what a generation of Boomer leadership leads you with.
00:32:49.000Is what you're handing off to your children better than what you inherited from your parents?
00:32:53.000That's the questions the boomers really need to look into the mirror and answer.