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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show, March 2nd, 2026.
00:01:13.000We are on day three of the strikes against Iran, Operation Epic Fury.
00:01:25.000We came in, we did an emergency special live stream on Saturday.
00:01:31.000Tens and tens of thousands of people saw that.
00:01:33.000So thank you guys for supporting the show.
00:01:35.000We did our best to honor Charlie, what Charlie would say in these situations.
00:01:39.000We obviously don't know exactly because he's not with us, but we have some good indications because we walked alongside Charlie in the summer strikes, Operation Midnight Hammer.
00:01:52.000We saw how he deliberated through those very tough decisions, those very tough backroom calls, those private conversations, and then what he would say publicly.
00:02:01.000And so I think we did a good job of that, got a lot of great feedback.
00:02:04.000And, you know, here's the bottom line: we don't know how this is going to turn out.
00:02:09.000We don't know what's going to happen in the coming days, weeks, months ahead.
00:02:13.000We don't know if this is going to ultimately be a success or if history will judge this to be a failure.
00:02:18.000But I will say that, again, the U.S. military's incredible, I just would say, precision, their lethality has been on full display.
00:02:31.000President Trump is saying they are ahead of schedule, especially when it comes to targeting the leadership of the IRGC.
00:02:40.000That was something we were not aware of when we concluded our stream on Saturday.
00:02:45.000But Khomeini has been killed along with 40.
00:02:49.000Yeah, along with 49 other members of the leadership structure within Iran.
00:02:57.000President Trump even said, Where this was misinterpreted by some people, where he was saying they had a list of likely candidates to succeed Khamenei, and it appears that their strikes have been so successful, they don't know who an obvious successor is at this point.
00:03:12.000I say misinterpreted because some people thought we killed our own candidates to replace them.
00:03:16.000No, it appears we're just talking about the hostile leadership.
00:03:19.000We knew there was suspicion of who would be selected if the Supreme Leader was killed.
00:03:25.000By the way, there was another Supreme Leader briefly installed for 22 hours.
00:04:26.000Charlie was very concerned about regime change wars, was very reticent about using kinetic force in this region.
00:04:32.000But at the end of the day, Charlie over and over and over again said, This is why I elected President Trump.
00:04:38.000This is why I fought so hard for the that's really what it is.
00:04:40.000Is there would be two competing impulses with Charlie.
00:04:43.000And the reason we cite him, a big reason we continue this show, a big reason it still has his name on there, is people looked to Charlie as a leader, as a leader in the movement, as a person who had wise perspectives, as a person who wasn't under the control of anyone else.
00:04:59.000And so he could be frank, he could be honest about things.
00:05:01.000And so we're trying to maintain that voice to the best we can so that people, because that's what people are looking towards.
00:05:08.000And what I can say, and I think you agree, is Charlie would have two competing impulses.
00:05:18.000He was a part of that generation, very shaped by Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:05:23.000Two wars that looked very easy at the start, but went on a lot longer than people thought, were more expensive than people thought they would be, and ended in ultimately either failure or at best mixed results in the case of Iraq.
00:05:41.000And that would have shaped his attitude towards this.
00:05:46.000He repeatedly said he thought regime change in Iran was a bad idea.
00:05:50.000The competing impulse there is he was a supporter of President Trump and President Trump's judgment in international affairs, and he was also an American patriot.
00:05:59.000And so this war having started, his take would similarly be I was very hesitant for this, but I also do trust the president's judgment that he must have good reasons for this and that he would have a plan to keep this from extending endlessly and escalating out of control.
00:06:17.000Well, and to your point, you mentioned Iraq.
00:06:19.000Secretary of War Pete Hegseth addressed this very dynamic in his press conference this morning with General Kaine, 301.
00:06:27.000To the media outlets and political left screaming endless wars, stop.
00:07:07.000Iran's stubborn and self-evident nuclear pursuits, their targeting of global shipping lanes, and their swelling arsenal of ballistic missiles and killer drones were no longer, are no longer tolerable risks.
00:07:20.000Iran was building powerful missiles and drones to create a conventional shield for their nuclear blackmail ambitions.
00:07:29.000Our bases, our people, our allies, all in their crosshairs.
00:07:33.000Iran had a conventional gun to our head as they tried to lie their way to a nuclear bomb.
00:07:40.000It almost worked under Obama and his terrible deal, but not under this president.
00:07:47.000Turns out the regime who chanted death to America and death to Israel was gifted death from America and death from Israel.
00:07:58.000A lot of headlines about that final line basically, you know, and it's right, it was a bit of a mic drop moment because, you know, they've been chanting death to America, death to Israel for a long time.
00:08:09.000Turns out that the supreme leader met his end, his demise, at the hands of CIA intelligence, and an Israeli strike.
00:08:19.000So the full circle moment for the Ayatollah, certainly.
00:08:26.000We've got so much more to get to by saying that President Trump is now on the record saying that the big wave has not even commenced yet, which is something else.
00:08:35.000This is Jake Tapper, who he talked to 334.
00:08:39.000I asked the president if the U.S. was doing more than these military strikes to help the Iranian people regain control of Iran against the regime, to seize the country from the Iranian regime.
00:08:51.000And he said, yes, the president said, yes, we are indeed.
00:08:55.000But right now, we want everyone staying inside.
00:09:49.000President Trump understands his base extraordinarily well.
00:09:53.000He knows that his base does not want another Iraq.
00:09:55.000He does not want Libya, does not want a civil war or bedlam where the United States is left carrying the bag.
00:10:02.000But also, President Trump has been morally clear for a decade: Iran should not have a nuclear weapon.
00:10:07.000And President Trump has the talent, the expertise to be able to thread that needle.
00:10:12.000The generation that I represent, Jesse, the under-30 crowd, they absolutely are very war-weary.
00:10:18.000Many of them voted for President Trump on college campuses because they did not want to see a Joe Biden or George Bush philosophy where we get into this endless conflict where we're sending hundreds of billions of dollars.
00:10:29.000I think President Trump will be able to balance those two things while defending our allies, saying that Iran will not have a nuclear weapon without having to deploy a single American troop or even having America involved from the sky.
00:10:41.000President Trump can get that deal done while fulfilling the mandate that the voters gave him.
00:11:18.000When you get the respect of the other countries, then the other countries tend to do a little bit as you do, and you can create the right attitudes.
00:11:26.000The Iranian situation is a case in point.
00:11:29.000That they hold our hostages is just absolutely and totally ridiculous.
00:11:36.000That this country sits back and allows a country such as Iran to hold our hostages to my way of thinking is a horror.
00:11:45.000You're advocating that we should have gone in there with troops, etc., and brought our boys out.
00:12:23.000And I think, you know, Charlie made this point that, you know, you've got the hyper-interventional or anti-interventionist and you've got the war hawks.
00:12:32.000And these are our sort of two extremes.
00:12:34.000Well, President Trump tends to defy both.
00:12:37.000And that tends to be the truth with President Trump.
00:13:43.000But he is also right in saying that this is what happens when there is armed conflict between militaries.
00:13:50.000And so, yeah, listen, I think all these things are important to hold all at the same time.
00:13:57.000You know, we pray for success, but we also understand that we don't know all the details.
00:14:03.000I warned repeatedly on Saturday, for those of you who saw our Saturday stream, I warned repeatedly that I made numerous calls ahead of our stream trying to gather as much intel as I could.
00:14:13.000And there was this repeat theme from multiple people that there was a very real concern that Iran was like a dog backed into a corner, a rabbit dog, and that you could hold two things To be true at the same time, that, yes, the strikes against Fordo were successful.
00:14:32.000Yes, the regime was weaker than ever, but yes, they could be more dangerous than ever.
00:14:42.000Those will sink one of our carriers in the region, 5,000 people on board of those.
00:14:47.000And they were working on dirty bombs, right?
00:14:50.000Whether they were collecting materials from the Fordo sites or whatever that had been struck, or if they were just getting it on the black market.
00:14:58.000And they were working on their ballistic missile stockpiles really, really quickly.
00:15:03.000They were escalating really, really quickly.
00:15:06.000And so the reported numbers that you saw, how many ballistic missiles they had, were probably an underestimation.
00:15:11.000I think they had far more, and I think we're sort of seeing that indication now.
00:15:15.000They were a dog backed into a corner and they were going to bite.
00:15:18.000And so President Trump made the decision to hit them before they were ready to hit us.
00:15:24.000Again, we don't have to agree with it.
00:15:26.000You don't even have to think that Iran was an imminent threat to us to understand that reasonable people would come out on a different end of that discussion.
00:15:43.000It's humility, terror, and prayer for our troops and wishing and praying for success that this would ultimately be a good thing for the world and it would be a good thing for the region.
00:15:53.000And by the way, if this does end in a positive way, it's undeniable that this could have massive upside, okay?
00:16:02.000You're talking about choking off the energy flow to the CCP, many other downstream effects.
00:16:08.000Well, we said this over the weekend, but I think it's worth repeating.
00:16:11.000I think the best possible outcome for this is that instead of being another Middle East war, it is the last Middle East war that the United States has to be involved in.
00:16:20.000We've been in here multiple times, but at this point, Iran, you can say, is the last entity that is a serious danger to anyone.
00:16:31.000Yeah, there's Houthis who shoot missiles at ships in the Red Sea, but the Houthis are not in any way a strategic danger to any entire country that matters.
00:16:40.000And so ideally, once the Iranian regime is either removed or it is curtailed, which the president has said, he seems to be saying if we can destroy all their military capabilities, and if they never try to rebuild them, we don't care what they do after that.
00:16:54.000They can be an Islamic Republic as long as they want, as long as they're not a threat to anyone else.
00:16:59.000If we can create that reality, then we can leave the Middle East, you know, leave a few bases here and there.
00:17:05.000But most of the troops come home, most of the ships come home, most of the planes go elsewhere.
00:19:26.000Yeah, last week before this invasion took place, you know, I was kind of banging the drum of caution when it comes to regime change, primarily because of my own personal experiences and playing a small role in the regime change efforts in Iraq and just seeing all the complexities that come with that.
00:19:49.000You know, I know a lot of gold star moms.
00:19:51.000I have a lot of friends that did not come home.
00:19:54.000I know we spent trillions of dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
00:19:58.000We lost, you know, thousands and thousands of American lives.
00:20:02.000And when you look at those places now, it's very tough to make the argument that those places are better off now than when we went in there.
00:20:10.000And so I know if you look up research and, you know, analysis, only about 20 to 30% of regime changes are actually successful.
00:20:21.000And there's a whole list that, you know, of places that, you know, this has been tried and it has not worked.
00:20:26.000And one of the biggest problems with regime change operations is the power vacuum that unfolds immediately.
00:20:35.000And so you've got tribes, you've got clans, you've got militias, you've got political parties that are all jockeying for political power and positioning.
00:20:44.000And that's just within the interior of the country.
00:20:48.000And then you have the exterior forces.
00:20:51.000You've got countries like China and Russia and the United States and Israel and so many others who are also trying to assert influence.
00:21:00.000And as Americans often and Westerners, because we live in the countries that we do, we often have this flipping attitude that, well, we've done our part.
00:21:21.000The problem is, is that most of these people have lived under brutal authoritarian regime for so long that there's got to be a certain calculus and a fear in many of them to almost to the point of if I step up and I back the wrong horse or if I back the wrong political party and the party that I back or the person that I back doesn't win,
00:21:45.000am I going to be thrown into a prison or a gulag or beheaded or hanged in the street?
00:21:55.000That being said, now that this operation is underway, I'm hoping and I'm praying for not only the administration and the wisdom for their decisions going forward, but also for the people of Iran.
00:22:11.000But it's a very dicey, very dynamic situation right now.
00:22:21.000And I will say this, guys, if we were going to, obviously we made the decision to do it.
00:22:27.000I am glad that at least from the PR standpoint, this administration is not talking about we're going to be pushing regime change.
00:22:37.000At least they're talking about the Iranians stepping up and doing it themselves.
00:22:42.000Because if the United States was to insert a leader that has good relations with the United States, that leader would be seen as a puppet of the West and would have a tough time gaining legitimacy.
00:22:56.000Yeah, the president spoke to Brett Bayer about this exact issue, 331.
00:23:03.000I asked, so what you're saying is that you know there is somebody on the ground in Iran that is going to rise up.
00:23:43.000He points to Venezuela as a template, which means to me that going in, they had some sense on the ground of what was coming next.
00:23:55.000So from the President of the United States, he is pleased, does believe that this is going faster than they thought.
00:24:02.000And he believes that four weeks is something that they had put as a kind of calendar of what they were looking at as setting the table for the Iranians to do what they do.
00:24:15.000So when you hear four to five weeks, he says, I'm open to changing that timeline.
00:24:20.000Could be moved up, could be moved back.
00:24:23.000What are you, does that give you the sense that regime change was the ultimate goal here?
00:24:28.000What do you interpret when you hear that, Eli?
00:24:32.000Yeah, I mean, I do believe that that was definitely part of the plan.
00:24:37.000I mean, you know, from the time that the president addressed, you know, the people of the nation initially, it was pretty clear that that was a part of the plan, even if indirectly.
00:24:48.000And hey, we'll take out the Ayatollah.
00:24:50.000We'll take out a lot of the opposition.
00:24:53.000We'll threaten the police to stay out of it or they're going to die.
00:24:58.000But now, Iranians, you need to rise up and do your thing.
00:25:01.000So I do think that even if indirectly, that was a part of the plan.
00:25:05.000Obviously, we wanted to take out the ballistic missiles.
00:25:08.000And I do believe that Iran is a massive threat and at some point was going to have to be dealt with.
00:25:14.000And I will say humbly, guys, that I recognize on the outset that I don't have all the information and intelligence that the president and this administration have.
00:25:25.000I know tomorrow when we fly in at 5 p.m., we're going to be briefed by Secretary Rubio.
00:25:30.000I believe Pete Hegseth, John Ratcliffe is supposed to be there.
00:25:33.000So, you know, we should be able to paint some of the color and understanding in for members of Congress.
00:25:41.000But I am glad that the president is at least speaking in terms of, hey, we've got to be flexible because everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.
00:25:50.000And as somebody who's gone to war many times, I can tell you that often, you know, things don't go the way that you planned.
00:25:57.000And you've got to be able to be flexible and you've got to be willing and able to adjust.
00:26:03.000And I very seriously doubt the president of the United States, who I think has a pretty good track record of trying to keep us out of prolonged military conflicts, gang planned this out with his senior advisors from many agencies on, you know, what next.
00:26:18.000That's always the question with regime change type operations.
00:26:23.000You know, the actual, you know, toppling of a regime isn't the hard part.
00:26:29.000And, you know, I'm sure the president had many, you know, plans, strategic plans presented to him.
00:26:34.000And, you know, this is why, you know, Charlie and others have said that we voted for the guy because we did trust his instincts.
00:26:42.000And I'm hoping and praying that he's in prayer himself and making the best decisions possible for the country because military operations like this can go sideways so fast, you know, it'll make your head spin.
00:26:57.000Yeah, well, that's the question, Blake.
00:26:59.000And it's, it's, you know, you talked about how we don't want to put our thumb on the scale picking the next leader of Iran, but then there is this vacuum and you get this factions fighting.
00:27:08.000Everybody's wondering who, if they pick the wrong horse, are they going to be sent to the gulag?
00:27:27.000You know, that's, I don't, I don't know that you have an answer for it, but to me, that seems like the central tension then.
00:27:32.000Yeah, you know, if, if, if I was, if I was working this problem, guys, I would be working with my coalition partners in the area, you know, to find somebody that, you know, we could all, you know, agree upon, you know, would be better than the former leadership, but at the same time, have some credibility with the Iranian people.
00:28:30.000Ultimately, we have to pray for success and for peace and minimal casualties.
00:28:34.000And I think it's very telling that a man like yourself, Congressman, that has been in combat multiple times, that this is the tone you're setting.
00:28:43.000And you heard that as well from Secretary Hegseth.
00:28:46.000He said, you know, I was there for Iraq.
00:29:08.000We're going to take just a quick detour here because we have to address this.
00:29:12.000Our friend Charlie was once again targeted by leftists, this time over a massive banner hanging at the Department of Education with his face on it.
00:29:22.000It was a beautiful tribute at the Department of Education.
00:30:23.000They changed it because they were embarrassed about it.
00:30:25.000Well, he had to say, first Democratic presidential candidate who publicly pledges to tear down this particular banner on day one of his or her administration gets an immediate bump in their presidential primary polling.
00:31:08.000You could say, I don't think this is who should be honored.
00:31:11.000But instead, it's the visceral disgust.
00:31:14.000He's furious that we would dare commemorate someone who was heinously murdered by a left-wing radical while he was on a campus, advocating for American principles and free speech, engaging with people who disagreed with him.
00:31:26.000And then one of those people who disagreed with him shot him.
00:31:28.000And that's his response is to say, we're going to immediately support whoever tears down this disgusting banner.
00:31:52.000I'll give my primary support to whoever says, we're going to try to find a way to strip this person's citizenship and send him back to some dump.
00:32:00.000And, you know, it's worth remembering that in a resurface clip from 2009, Mehdi Hassan, given his sermon speeches to Muslim student groups on Islam and extremism, he quoted the Quran to describe atheists, non-believers, kufar, disbelievers, as cattle.
00:32:20.000Deaf and stubborn to the teachings of Islam, incapable of the intellectual effort it requires to shake off those blind prejudices.
00:32:29.000In a list of sins attributed to the historical tyrant Yazid, he concluded a homosexual, a pedophile, a sexual deviant alongside drunker, dog lover, music lover, killer.
00:33:11.000He's somebody that is proudly in favor of the Palestinian movement and Hamas, anti-Israel, anti-American.
00:33:20.000And so, yeah, we have a superior culture than Mehdi Hassan's, and yet he's come in here and he's been bestowed with the same freedoms that American citizens have long enjoyed.
00:33:30.000And we should find a way to stop that.
00:33:32.000We should absolutely find a way to stop that.
00:35:12.000He said the college scam because he thought it was cheating people.
00:35:15.000He thought all of the values that made it important were eroding away.
00:35:18.000He thought it had become a way for scammers to rip people off.
00:35:21.000And so these parasites go out and they say, oh, Charlie doesn't belong in the Department of Education building, you know, after we murdered him because he didn't think it was a good idea to spend $200,000 in a worthless degree.
00:35:35.000Yeah, he didn't mindlessly parrot the talking points from the regime media that would say that college or bust.
00:35:54.000All right, this might seem weird coming from somebody who's a little bit younger, but if you are about to turn 65 or if you're already on Medicare, this message is for you.
00:36:04.000You see, Charlie cared a lot about America's seniors and he was outraged that so many were paying too much for their Medicare coverage and getting less than they deserved in return.
00:38:22.000So, if I ask you what stocks should I invest in today, you know, are you going to give me an educated opinion or are you going to give me an opinion based on what you've heard, right?
00:38:47.000So, as many people listen to this, this podcast and watch this podcast, especially people who are smart critical thinkers, they have to understand what to look for, when to look for it, and what is normal versus what is abnormal behavior in any sector of their life.
00:39:07.000And I'll get to why this is so important now and what threats we're looking at.
00:39:13.000But this is the very first thing that people must realize: I have to go study stocks and the market and all these things to get versed in when and how to invest.
00:39:24.000And it seems complicated, but for those who do it, it's not that complicated.
00:39:29.000Well, it's the same thing with attackers.
00:39:31.000That guy that walked into that bar in Texas and killed two people and wounded 14.
00:39:42.000He was a guy wearing a property of Allah shirt, which, by the way, he is a property of his a la now, but he's actually property of our God now.
00:39:53.000He didn't have all this special forces training and things to walk in there and carry out a successful terror attack.
00:40:04.000And the people that were killed and wounded did not have the awareness to see a guy walking in with a property of all a shirt, wearing camouflage pants and carrying a gun.
00:40:15.000So, this is where he figured out the vulnerabilities and he exploited those vulnerabilities.
00:40:24.000And the interesting thing is the people that got shot and the people that were in that bar, they also know about those vulnerabilities.
00:40:30.000They just don't look at it from his perspective.
00:40:35.000That's why I started out with the comparison to stocks: is that we all know and we've heard that if you invest your money correctly, your money is going to make you money.
00:40:45.000And if we learn just a little bit about how the market goes back and forth, we can then start to develop more of an understanding of where and how to invest our money.
00:40:58.000If you look at how these attackers traditionally work, if you look at yourself, your life, your sectors, each sector of your life, your business, church, school, so on and so forth, and you say, if I was going to attack, This is why I would choose this.
00:41:16.000This is what I would exploit to get to that area effectively, when it might happen, because that bar is not a viable target Sunday morning at 12 a.m.
00:41:26.000It's a viable, or excuse me, at 12 p.m.
00:41:29.000It's a viable target at 12 a.m. Sunday morning because that's Saturday night.
00:41:35.000So we have to look at our lives from the attacker's point of view and then turn around and say, now my awareness is heightened.
00:41:43.000I know to look in this area at this point in time.
00:41:46.000I know that the attack could come from this direction.
00:41:53.000That's normal at that time in that place, but this is not normal.
00:41:57.000And so if people can do this using their knowledge, but looking at an attacker's point of view and then turn around and then eliminate vulnerabilities, develop plans of action, what they'll end up finding is that they, for instance, in the Ariana Grande concert that got bombed years ago, people who thought, you know what, I'm not going to walk out when everybody else does because that's an area that's ripe for an attack.
00:42:24.000I'm either going to leave early, which I would have if I was forced to go to Ariana Grande concert, I would have left early, or you wait for everybody else to leave and then you go because then you could have avoided, you would have had a plan of action to avoid that critical time in that critical area.
00:43:18.000Because you're going to have a plan of action.
00:43:20.000And then if it does happen, that plan is going to allow you to maneuver to safety.
00:43:27.000And so that's how we do threat assessments.
00:43:28.000And that's how people should do that on their life.
00:43:30.000I'm just curious, when you go into a crowded space, especially right now where, you know, we're under heightened security risk with everything in Iran.
00:44:14.000And I always have an understanding of the threats, as you all do.
00:44:19.000But I don't know if you all, but I definitely look at it from an attacker's point of view.
00:44:24.000So when I walk up anywhere, I'm understanding, for instance, in a mall that there is places to exit in the back that take me to an alleyway that could lead outside of a building.
00:44:34.000I don't necessarily have to go out the front door.
00:44:39.000The awareness or the attacker side is saying, if I was going to attack, I'll probably just walk through the front door with a knife or a gun.
00:44:46.000And if something happens as a defender, I'm going to avoid that.
00:44:49.000And I'm going to go towards the back and go out.
00:44:51.000And so this is the back and forth, the switch, the on and off, the what-if game and going back and forth from the attacker to the defender.
00:44:59.000No, and by the way, you know, it's a terrifying reality that we've all had to confront around here of just constantly being vigilant and constantly, you know, it's understanding you might have a tail.
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00:47:24.000So we're going to continue this conversation.
00:47:26.000Secretary of War Pete Hegseth says the U.S. is ready for possible Iranian sleeper cell attacks on U.S. Soil 305.
00:47:33.000Concerns about Iranian sleeper cells and kind of what has the Trump administration been doing to kind of monitor these across the internet agency in full coordination.
00:47:42.000Of course, we're paying attention to any potentialities there.
00:47:46.000This is a former regime, a regime that seeks to export that ideology and try to sow terror.
00:48:07.000You revealed that the Biden administration, I didn't believe this headline, that they deported only eight out of 100 illegals with ties to ISIS.
00:48:17.000It is inconceivable to me to have a commander-in-chief and a president who would knowingly return those who are either known or suspected terrorists or those who had very close ties with known or suspected terrorists back onto our streets in their country.
00:48:31.000But unfortunately, it's exactly what happened.
00:48:34.000There were over 400 illegal immigrants who came from Central Asia into our country.
00:48:39.000Of those, there were hundreds who had either ties to terrorists or were terrorists themselves.
00:48:46.000This is something I would truthfully tease Charlie about.
00:48:49.000He had a big fascination with sleeper cells, which I think was somewhat related to him watching 24 a lot when he was growing up.
00:48:55.000You have these espionage shows where there's a lot of them.
00:48:58.000But Tulsi is getting at the heart of it, which is that for decades, really, and especially during the Biden administration, we really did just let anyone in at the southern border.
00:49:27.000And we're just at the point where there are millions of people in the United States from foreign lands where we don't know what motivates them, why they're here, what weird mental problems they might have.
00:49:38.000So some of them could be active agents of foreign governments, or they're just nutballs who obviously shouldn't be here.
00:49:44.000And both of those pose a real threat where they could react to this either because they're ordered to or just because they choose to.
00:49:52.000That property of a logi, I don't think was sent here as anyone's agent.
00:50:37.000That's why interior enforcement is so important, 360.
00:50:41.000The Department of Homeland Security says Yusuf Meredano had been living in the United States illegally for nearly eight years.
00:50:49.000Since U.S. officials determined he lied on a visa application, on Sunday, just four months after the Iranian foreign national was added to the U.S.'s known or suspected terrorist list, he was arrested in central Mississippi.
00:51:03.000He's now in ICE custody pending removal proceedings, and he's not alone.
00:51:08.000Over the past 48 hours, ICE officials have arrested 11 Iranian nationals spanning eight states nationwide.
00:51:16.000Among them, five possessed previous criminal convictions.
00:51:19.000Their crimes ranging from grand larceny to drug and firearm possessions.
00:51:24.000Also, among those apprehended, Ribvar Karimi.
00:51:28.000ICE officials say they found his Islamic Republic of Iran Army identification card and allege he served as an Iranian sniper.
00:51:38.000Just let these guys in super casually.
00:51:40.000Just to remind you, this is, go back in your head to Minneapolis.
00:51:46.000All these blue-haired Karens using their cars as battering rams against ICE officials.
00:51:51.000These are the people that they're getting out of the country.
00:51:53.000This is why interior enforcement matters.
00:51:56.000This is why we can't give an inch to these crazy people.
00:51:59.000They think that their message is compassion.
00:52:01.000They think that they're trying to be inclusive or whatever.
00:52:04.000I don't want to be inclusive of people like that.
00:52:06.000I don't want to be inclusive of people that are going to turn the gun on American citizens and fire into a nightclub in Austin, Texas, or wherever.
00:52:18.000I'm candidly, there's a big part of me that's glad we've had at least a year of ICE deportations under President Trump before this kind of action was taken in the Middle East.
00:52:31.000And it really, it is just an illustration of how badly we've harmed America totally.
00:52:38.000This 100% America-last attitude, this attitude of everyone in the world has a right to come to America and stay in America.
00:52:47.000Every single good idea I've heard is, you know, anytime a plane crashes, we have this board that comes in and they analyze every single thing about the crash and, you know, how could this have happened?
00:52:58.000And we do new safety innovations to make sure.
00:53:01.000And as a result, we have almost no plane crashes anymore.
00:53:04.000And I think it would be pretty reasonable for us to do that the same way.
00:53:07.000Like anytime an immigrant to this country does something like a terrorist attack, a mass shooting, they're caught doing some really heinous crime, it should merit an action.
00:53:17.000You should make someone have to write up a report.
00:53:20.000Why did they remain in America when they were obviously insane or a criminal or a welfare thing?
00:53:26.000And how do we prevent this from happening in the future?
00:53:28.000And you should make it so someone is getting humiliated.
00:53:30.000Someone is losing their job when this happens because we have done this over and over and over again.
00:53:35.000We've had it multiple times in the past year where someone who is an immigrant to this country just stabs someone to death on the bus, specifically on a bus.
00:53:44.000Lunatic immigrant to the country stabs someone to death.
00:53:47.000The number of people who come into this country and then stab someone to death on a bus should be zero.
00:53:53.000I'm going to guess in a lot of countries, it is zero.
00:53:55.000Somehow they don't have this problem, even if they have immigration there.
00:54:00.000Well, and you think about recreating how we got here.
00:54:03.000So you've got a Senegalese immigrant who comes not sure what was in the benefit of America to even let him in in the first place, overstays his visa, has a history of mental health issues, then gets married and we allow him to stay.
00:54:18.000This guy is a complete degenerate that shouldn't have been allowed in this country, should have been deported, candidly, should have never been naturalized.
00:54:25.000The fact that we're just so knee-jerk to extend our compassion to somebody that doesn't belong here, hates our country, and by the way, worships, you know, has a Quran in his car, by the way.
00:54:37.000You know, there's, I want to beat up on Mehdi Hassan more.
00:54:39.000He's also tweeted over the weekend yesterday.
00:54:41.000God help us if we're about to see a repeat of the post-Iraq era.
00:54:44.000We illegally invade Amidi's country, energize extremists, and then get predictable blowback terrorism in the U.S. Gee, why is it predictable that there would be blowback terrorism in the United States?
00:54:55.000I don't feel that it was predictable that we would get blowback terrorism when we fought any of our wars 100 years ago.
00:55:01.000But apparently now it's a predictable consequence if we pursue any foreign policy.
00:57:14.000Today was a little bit unusually calm for what we've been hearing over the past couple of days, but it's definitely been very active.
00:57:25.000And my connections in northern Iraq and also the northern part of Iran have also been hearing active fighting that's been going on there too.
00:57:42.000And we're going to get into Iran in just a second, Pastor, but what do you think the goal is of the IRGC sending off missiles into neighboring Arab states?
00:58:37.000So this is what I'm trying to ascertain and why I wanted to have you on, Pastor, is because not only are you a longtime friend of mine, but I know for knowing you for years that you have been doing ministry work inside Iran and Pakistan.
00:58:52.000You know this area very well and you know the people very well.
00:58:56.000So, you know, what this is, so there's conflicting reports, right?
01:00:02.000They are threatening people that they will cut off their ability to get food, that they will cut off their ability to get supplies.
01:00:09.000If they do not show up at these rallies, if you're a government worker, if you're IDF military or police, if you don't show up and your family doesn't show up, you could even be killed.
01:00:20.000They are taking this extremely seriously.
01:02:01.000That's the reason why you're seeing all of these people shouting from their flats and from their balconies, death to the Ayatollah, death to the IRGC.
01:02:17.000If there is anybody that's in support, most of those people are in support because they've been told that if the U.S. comes in, that they will be killed.
01:02:26.000Even though the president clearly stated that they will give immunity to anybody who surrenders, they're being told, no, you'll be killed.
01:02:34.000And if they don't kill you, then they're going to be killed by the IRGC.
01:02:38.000So this is like old school, imagine old school Soviet way of dealing with things.
01:02:44.000That's what's happening right now on the ground in Iran.
01:02:46.000But the percentage, I'm telling you now, there is vast, vast numbers.
01:02:52.000I know university students right now that are ready to take over, that are ready to do things, that are ready to step up, that they've been preparing for this for a long time.
01:03:02.000And my particular ministry, we're getting medical supplies into them.
01:03:13.000And there's just, but there's so much demand right now because the vast population, they are ready to see this regime fall and they are not in support.
01:03:24.000So we had Representative Eli Crane on before and nature abhors a vacuum, as they say, right?
01:03:31.000And President Trump is telling people to stay inside.
01:03:34.000So presumably the supporters of the overthrow of the regime are still inside.
01:04:04.000We weren't sure if that was sort of outside propaganda from expats that were all over the world, the diaspora of Iranians, Persians, or if that you.
01:04:13.000So you're telling me your read on the ground, because again, you know a ton of these people.
01:04:18.000You're saying that's actual organic support for this guy.
01:04:22.000And the main reason why is because they do not trust anybody that has been in leadership so far coming out of the regime that would say they would switch sides or that they don't agree with it anymore.
01:04:32.000Pahavi has made a commitment to a democratic government.
01:04:35.000He said he would only take the position if the Iranian people chose him.
01:04:40.000That's a big difference from everything else that they're hearing inside the country from the regime.
01:04:44.000And they also are people that are hoping for him to step in, even if it was in a form like a Prince Charles form where it was a figurehead, but to come in and to be a stabilization and help set up a new government.
01:04:58.000That is voted upon, which Pahlavi has committed to.
01:05:02.000But the question then, your read on the ground is that because the brutal crackdowns on protesters, we're hearing reports of 20, maybe 30,000 were killed in the streets.
01:05:15.000I believe that that's more than 50,000.
01:05:18.000So you believe that you believe that despite that crackdown, that the survivors of that movement are ready to come back to the streets and reclaim power when the coast is clear.
01:05:34.000You got to realize, Andrew, they can't even go to the hospital.
01:05:36.000If they go to the hospital and they have wounds or they've been marked as being participants in those protests, they will be killed at the hospital.
01:05:47.000That's the reason why we've been getting medical supplies in because there's underground clinics because people cannot show up to the hospitals or they'll be killed as soon as they arrive.
01:06:38.000Robbie, we're joined by Pastor Robbie Dawkins.
01:06:42.000He's currently in Dubai, but he has a long history of doing ministry work in Iran and Pakistan, Afghanistan.
01:06:50.000One of the things that people are not aware of culturally, I think the American public has an image of Persian people, maybe whether it's through movies or just an assumption.
01:07:03.000But explain the difference between an Arab Muslim and a Persian Muslim or a Shia and Sunni.
01:07:09.000I don't know how you want to break that down, but culturally, give us a sense of what they're like.
01:07:19.000Well, you definitely have the, you know, the Persian people are very warm to the Westernization and warm to the United States.
01:07:28.000What you're seeing even back in the 70s with the students that were taking over and all that, so much of those were people that were from the outskirts.
01:07:38.000The majority of people that ended up leaving here, fleeing here, were leaving because they were having, you know, because the Shah had been overthrown and the government was overthrown.
01:07:50.000Many of them worked in the government.
01:07:51.000And so they had to flee for their lives.
01:07:53.000Anybody with money, anything like that, they had to leave.
01:07:57.000So the Muslim population, I actually have, I'm quite sure that the Christian population right now actually outnumbers the Muslim population.
01:08:09.000I know that sounds extreme to say that, but I am in communication with numbers that are, they're extremely rough.
01:08:16.000There's no way to calculate it and be precise, but that they're very, very strong.
01:08:22.000And people are just sick of the Islamic Republic.
01:08:45.000But I have met a lot of Iranians, you know, whether they're living in the UK now or in Los Angeles that are actual Catholics or Christians.
01:08:56.000So I don't doubt that there's a significant population.
01:08:58.000One of the stories that sits in my mind is after Charlie was assassinated, you were telling me that you were doing evangelism in these countries.
01:09:07.000I think it was Pakistan at that point, but I think it's similar in Iran.
01:09:11.000And you were saying that Charlie, his legacy and his inspiration, his life just spurred on a ton of conversions.
01:09:32.000I was doing, we call them Acts, which is Arab Kingdom Training Schools, where we're training people how to live the book of Acts, ACTS, and step out to bring people into relationship with Christ.
01:09:45.000And the police showed up and they came to the front.
01:09:51.000And it's the first time I've seen this in Afghanistan.
01:09:53.000I've been arrested four different times for the gospel, three times in Afghanistan, one time in Russia, and have been through all kinds of things, incarceration overnight for days, torture, different things like that.
01:10:05.000But this is the first time I never saw any underground church leaders not run.
01:10:43.000And I said, what do you mean, Charlie Kirk?
01:10:46.000And this is right after his assassination.
01:10:49.000They said, when we saw that, we thought if that man could take a bullet and take his life be surrendered for Christ, then we can do it too.
01:11:00.000And we have courage and we want to actually dedicate this school in Hyderabad to Charlie Kirk.
01:11:25.000Just two days before the memorial service, you know, had aired, you know, for everyone to see.
01:11:33.000And they were just, they were so committed by Charlie's willingness to put himself at risk, knowing that he could have been killed in Utah and yet going anyway.
01:11:42.000And they were like, if he can do it, then we can do it.
01:11:44.000We're going to step out in boldness for Christ as he did.
01:12:04.000So it was, I'm hearing from the Iranians, they're inspired.
01:12:07.000A matter of fact, I told several of them I was coming on with you.
01:12:11.000They wish they could get the show, Charlie Kirk show, but they were like, man, please tell them we are so inspired by everything that we've seen by Charlie Kirk.
01:12:44.000Robbie Dawkins, Pastor Robbie Dawkins, who I've known for years, has put his life on the line a lot to spread the gospel of Jesus Christ in the Middle East, a place that you don't think is hospitable to it.
01:12:55.000It's really not, actually, because you've been in some dangerous situations, Pastor.
01:13:02.000So thank you for sharing, especially about Charlie's legacy in a place that we don't assume that's really powerful.