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00:00:05.000We talk about antidepressants, psychiatric drugs towards young children, and it's a judgment-free zone.
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00:02:00.000We're going to lead this program today with some unfortunate news out of Highland Park, Illinois, right down the street where I grew up, by the way.
00:02:10.000Terrible shooting yesterday in Highland Park.
00:02:12.000It seems as if six people are dead and over 30 people are injured.
00:02:17.000Highland Park is in the north shore of Chicago.
00:02:19.000I grew up in Wheeling, Illinois, not far from there at all.
00:02:23.000It was at a July 4th parade where this individual, we're not going to use his name, gets on a rooftop and starts shooting into the crowd.
00:02:31.000Now, that's a tragedy, and it should be considered a tragedy.
00:02:36.000Inexplicably, we're not going to politicize it.
00:02:39.000The other side is trying to politicize it.
00:02:42.000They're trying to say, oh, this guy was a Trump supporter.
00:02:45.000There's also no evidence that he's a far-left-wing activist.
00:02:48.000There's evidence that he was very deeply disturbed and used visuals from both sides of the political aisle.
00:02:54.000For what reason, we really don't know.
00:02:56.000But it's important that we add context that we remember all deaths that happened in Illinois this weekend.
00:03:03.000We're going to talk about the parade shooting.
00:03:06.000We're going to talk about what I believe is actually pushing young men towards these sort of violent acts.
00:03:11.000But also, 71 people were shot and eight fatally in the 4th of July holiday weekend in shootings across the city, Chicago police said.
00:03:19.000Last year, 19 people were killed and more than 100 people were shot over the long 4th of July weekend.
00:03:24.000The toll was lower than last year when 19 people were killed and more than 100 people were shot.
00:03:30.000Nine of the wounded were shot in two attacks on the west and south side, four people in the west and Garfield Park Friday evening, and five men in Parkway Gardens on the south side on early Monday.
00:03:59.000A woman was killed and a gunman was among two others wounded in a shootout Friday night in Chinatown.
00:04:04.000At least 16 people were shot two fatally in a violent eight-hour span late Saturday into early Sunday in the city, according to Chicago police.
00:04:14.000And so, when we look at this idea of violence in Chicago, we must not keep it limited to just what happened in Highland Park, the suburbs of Chicago, but also in downtown Chicago with widespread murder, reckless carnage.
00:04:45.000Nihilism is something I want to explore with many of you.
00:04:49.000Nihilism is more than the belief in nothing, it's the belief that there is no harmony, there is no synchronicity, there is no design to the entire universe.
00:05:00.000Nihilism is a very easy conclusion to come to when you are raised in a secular public government school system.
00:05:10.000Nihilism is basically the belief, it's even deeper than cynicism, that there is nothing but pleasure and pain, and the darkness that you might be feeling, any happiness that people outside of you might be experiencing is nothing more than an aberration and a mirage.
00:05:31.000Some of the worst acts of violence have happened in our country under the false and the misleading, dangerous, sinister, and evil belief of nihilism.
00:05:47.000When you actually look at what these people believed, many of these shooters, Uvalde, Buffalo, very few of them have articulate doctrines or dogmas.
00:06:01.000Very few of them are like the psychopath Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber, who wrote a long dissertation and treatise on the downfalls of technology.
00:06:16.000These are not people that are committing acts of violence for a reason.
00:06:20.000It seems they're doing it for no reason at all.
00:06:22.000Yesterday was a terrible day, and that's bad to say when it's Independence Day.
00:06:27.000You want it to be a wonderful uplifting day.
00:06:29.000But what happened in Highland Park, Illinois, certainly hit home for me.
00:06:33.000I grew up right down the street from Highland Park.
00:06:35.000I drove down the street many times of where the parade shooting happened in an explicable act of violence.
00:06:43.000A shooter, whose name we are not going to use, seemed to have gone on a rooftop, started firing indiscriminately into the parade, and murdering six people and injuring 30 others.
00:06:55.000Now, we're not going to politicize this.
00:06:57.000In fact, I think that the symptoms of what we are seeing in Highland Park, or I should say, the root cause of what we've seen that actually created what happened in Highland Park, is much deeper and worthy of examination than just right versus left.
00:08:24.000Now, Nietzsche gets a bad rap in some sense because some of what Nietzsche actually predicted came true.
00:08:29.000The destruction and the devolution of Western values.
00:08:32.000He famously wrote, God is dead, but he did not write it in a celebratory fashion.
00:08:38.000He wrote it instead as almost lamenting that since God is dead, the West will basically disintegrate upon itself.
00:08:45.000What I meant to say is the left will do it for us.
00:08:48.000Basically, as the West loses its faith in God and its central morality, the social order that has tied it all together, we are going to see the disintegration of the entire country as we know it.
00:09:02.000And so this person yesterday that shot at the parade in Highland Park, it's very clear, based on just an overview analysis of his life, that he was a heavy medicated, heavily medicated individual.
00:09:17.000Pharmacologically, he was doing weed quite often.
00:09:23.000He was dealing from a mass psychosis event, probably on benzodiazepans, Prozac, or a mixture of all of SSRIs or serotonin-type boosting drug inhibitors.
00:09:38.000And so we're seeing a pattern that has emerged all across the country, which is medicate our children.
00:09:43.000Do you know millions of young people across America are on some form of psychiatric drugs, antidepressants?
00:09:49.000I'm talking about seven, eight, and nine-year-olds.
00:09:52.000They're on some form of psychiatric drugs.
00:09:54.000Isolate them, lock them up, put masks on them, demonize them, then wind them up into a fury, and don't be shocked at what you get.
00:10:06.000Now, this is not a justification for the horror and the tragedy and the murder and the suffering, what we saw in Highland Park yesterday.
00:10:32.000Now, we'll find out in recent days and hopefully recent in the next couple of days, the next couple weeks, to what extent was law enforcement actually involved or engaged in monitoring him?
00:10:44.000What sort of red flags, to use a term they like to put forward, might have been submitted.
00:10:50.000We do know is this person was a deeply disturbed and sick individual.
00:10:55.000Now, from a strictly chemical perspective, these kids have become eroded shells of a human being, torn from within with no purpose, direction, or meaning.
00:11:08.000Now, when we see these kind of mass acts of terror, sometimes you'll see kind of a religious or a political doctrine or dogma that is pushing them forward.
00:11:19.000For example, the Unibomber, the monster that sent all the bombs across the country in the mail, was an anti-technology activist.
00:11:29.000He had a reason for what he was doing.
00:11:31.000It was a sick and perverted reason, hard to even wrap your head around it, but Ted Kaczynski was doing it for a reason.
00:11:39.000The same could be said for Eric Rudolph, who was the Centennial Park bomber who hid out in the woods and the forests of North Carolina for nearly a year and a half before law enforcement was able to find him.
00:12:38.000Abolition of Man by C.S. Lewis, C.S. Lewis being the greatest Christian apologist, in my opinion, of the 20th century, who has brought millions of people to the Lord and has effectively pushed back against atheism, cynicism, nihilism, and secular humanism.
00:12:53.000What C.S. Lewis was basically doing is actually responding to a children's book.
00:12:59.000What C.S. Lewis was doing was responding to a children's book in the 1930s, prior to World War II, if I'm not mistaken.
00:13:05.000I think it was published in 1938, the children's book.
00:13:08.000That was all around really one sentence that C.S. Lewis was pushing back against.
00:13:12.000It was one sentence he zeroed in on, where someone comes up to a waterfall and someone says, wow, that waterfall is sublime.
00:13:20.000And the other person says, oh yeah, I think it makes me feel good.
00:13:24.000And essentially, C.S. Lewis, based on this one sentence in The Abolition of Man, oversimplifying it, but the essence is that he said, society is going to disintegrate into a dystopian future, creating men without chests if you are not able to call a waterfall beautiful and sublime through objective standards.
00:13:41.000You see, what C.S. Lewis was warning about in the 1930s and 40s, through all of his writings, screw tape letters, mere Christianity, abolition of man, miracles, chronicles of Narni, one of the most prolific writers in the 20th century, what C.S. Lewis was trying to warn us is that if you teach children that there is not a truth, if you teach children that truth is subjective, you're going to be raising a generation of men without chests.
00:14:10.000In fact, you're going to have the abolition of man itself.
00:14:14.000He goes on into the third chapter, the third kind of response to literature in the 1930s and 40s by saying the final act of technology will be the abolition of man.
00:14:26.000You see, C.S. Lewis goes straight against nihilism, and he warns that nihilism, the belief in nothing, to deconstruct the established social order, what are you going to replace it with exactly?
00:14:40.000And what you saw in Highland Park is unfortunately just the latest chapter in the long, seemingly endless, voluminous book of acts of abstract nihilism.
00:15:06.000And I want to keep on exploring this topic with you because deeper than guns and deeper than even benzodiazepans or antidepressants, there is a philosophical thread here that actually stems from our universities and our schools.
00:15:20.000And that young man who committed that act of violence was probably taught somewhere, well, how do you feel about it?
00:15:45.000Now, some of you might say, Oh, my kid is not exposed to this sort of nihilism or this sort of belief.
00:15:52.000It is widespread in our public and government school system.
00:15:56.000You see, when I visited University of California, Berkeley, and I sat down for about an hour and a half and spoke to students, and then I did a speech that evening, I realized and recognized that nihilism had cast a shadow over the entire campus, University of California, Berkeley.
00:16:12.000You see, I visited Cal Berkeley multiple times.
00:17:04.000These are deeply unhappy people that are coming to me and saying everything is subjective.
00:17:11.000Now, what's interesting is the moment that somebody says, hey, everything's subjective, say, well, how do you know that statement to be true?
00:17:39.000They want to have their books published.
00:17:41.000You see, a lot of these ideas were pushed forward in the 1960s by Jacques Derrida and Michelle Foucault and the postmodernists that have infiltrated our entire school system.
00:17:53.000You see, if you deal with a college student, which I deal with a lot of college kids, so I speak from a place of authority here, they don't know what is real.
00:18:02.000You see, from the basis of where education needs to start and the disservice of what education does today is they create young people that are not anchored in anything that is real, good, true, or beautiful.
00:18:20.000It creates a mad generation, is what it does.
00:18:23.000And they have to gravitate towards antidepressants.
00:18:26.000They have to gravitate towards pharmacological interventions like marijuana, ecstasy, and cocaine.
00:18:32.000They have to gravitate towards alcohol because there's no other way they could process it.
00:18:37.000So all they can do is try to go towards the pain and pleasure matrix.
00:18:44.000But instead, true education is talking about, as C.S. Lewis wrote in Abolition of Man, the Tao, the way, that there is a way that you must live.
00:18:58.000We as Christians believe that Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life.
00:19:03.000But C.S. Lewis writes beautifully in The Abolition of Man that it's not just Christianity that came up with this concept, that almost every form of civilization that was able to function and flourish had a way that people should live, a transcendent moral order, or otherwise in Catholic social teaching, would be called a natural law, as Thomas Aquinas would put it.
00:19:29.000And when you start to see these senseless shootings, when you start to see these mass outbursts of violence, when you see the most suicidal, alcohol-addicted, and drug-addicted generation in history, we must understand the philosophical underpinnings that is driving this.
00:19:47.000And yes, if you're a parent or a grandparent and you send your kid to a government school, you should be a lot more worried that they're going to catch the contagion of nihilism than the virus of COVID.
00:20:00.000The contagion of nihilism can turn an otherwise happy and joyful young person into an endless tornado of misery and despair.
00:20:10.000It makes them believe there's nothing else than a will to power, not a will to meaning or a will to beauty.
00:20:17.000Entire civilizations fall apart on this.
00:20:20.000The Russian Revolution was built on a kind of rejection of the pre-existing social order.
00:20:27.000And then you fill them up with chemicals, you overindulge them in pleasure, video games, rap, music that is not good for them at all.
00:20:40.000An overstimulation of dopamine, the baseline starts to lower.
00:20:44.000And we wonder why all of a sudden our nation's young men are killing themselves and killing others.
00:20:49.000It's because the man is being abolished.
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00:22:08.000In C.S. Lewis's Abolition of Man, he talks about when you raise a generation that is not able to understand what is real and what is true, and they are not on the DAO or the way, they have no teleological purpose for existence.
00:22:24.000Teleological basically means purpose, and it's overly complex wording.
00:22:30.000We actually get the word from the word telescope, which means far out in the distance, telos, which means something to aim for.
00:22:37.000When a generation has nothing to aim for, no reason for existence, they could kill themselves.
00:22:42.000There's a lot of young people doing that.
00:22:44.000Certain epidemic of suicide in our country in a way we've never seen before.
00:22:50.000Higher rates of marijuana, higher rates of antidepressants, higher rates of alcohol, higher rates of cocaine, higher rates of amphetamines.
00:23:00.000And by the way, almost every other conservative show is going to talk about guns and all that.
00:23:12.000Why don't we talk about the philosophical contagion, the virus, the mind virus that is stemming out of our public schools that are being taught to five, six, and seven-year-olds saying, so what do you believe is true?
00:24:34.000The use of psychiatric drugs in children has been steadily increasing for many years in several countries.
00:24:41.000In the United States, 8.5% of children under the age of 18 are on medication for ADD, ADHD, autism, ASD, or difficulties with emotion, concentration, or behavior, according to a national survey.
00:24:54.000Psychiatric drug use in youth is increasing in many countries.
00:24:58.000But we don't even know what impact this has on the developing brain.
00:25:02.000And to Psychology Today, to their credit, they wrote this, quote, these trends are of concern because very little is known about the effects of these drugs taken alone or in combination on the developing brain.
00:25:12.000Not to mention with alcohol, high stress, low sleep, bright screens all the time in front of their eyes, marijuana.
00:25:21.000What happens when you mix benzodiazepans or Prozac or Zoloft with marijuana?
00:25:28.000That's probably not a good combination for a developing brain.
00:25:33.000For example, a review of 26 studies on antidepressants and children concluded that, quote, findings suggest that most newer antidepressants may reduce depression symptoms in a small and unimportant way compared with placebo.
00:25:47.000Suicide-related thinking and behavior may be increased in those taking these medications.
00:25:53.000What if actually all these antidepressants that are plaguing our land are having an adverse effect?
00:25:59.000How much of this could actually be solved through healthy living and understanding a developing brain and having just a little bit, an elementary, an introductory understanding of how dopamine works, just like a little bit.
00:26:18.000In fact, I wouldn't even call myself fluent or literate in this category.
00:26:23.000But just reading a little bit of the literature and exposing yourself to some of what the experts have to say about this.
00:26:29.000People like Andrew Huberman and Ann Lempke that have done a lot of research on this.
00:26:35.000All of a sudden, it's not hard to start to piece together all of the empirical evidence where you start to see a generation that is so burned out.
00:26:42.000So for example, just a very simple thing, when you look at dopamine, for every increase of dopamine from the baseline, you have to have an inverse decrease.
00:26:53.000Meaning if you go two and a half times above baseline, you're going to have to go below baseline two and a half times.
00:26:58.000Now, many of you know this probably when you say, man, after something where I really enjoyed a sports game, an event, or a night with friends, sometimes a couple days later, I'm feeling a little bit down.
00:27:49.000They make them intentionally try to keep on escalating your engagement, your screen time, where you are literally having your child burn out their brain and their dopamine reward structure.
00:28:02.000By the time they get in the real world, they said, There's no beauty, there's no truth, no goodness.
00:28:06.000What they need is really a 60-day dopamine fast.
00:28:09.000Now, another thing that destroys young people's brains that no one wants to talk about, again, judgment-free zone, I'm not here to moralize, is pornography.
00:28:18.000What porn does to teen brains and how to keep it off their devices?
00:28:22.000Most parents have no understanding and no comprehension of the damage of what pornography can do to a young person.
00:28:32.000So, when you start to see these outbursts of mass violence, they are all downstream.
00:28:40.000They're all tributaries of chemical imbalances that could be attributed to, I think, the over-prescription of antidepressants.
00:28:48.000And for once, if the Republican Party, I think, wanted to really represent the interest of their voters, how many Republicans running for office say, hey, we're medicating our children too much.
00:28:57.000And by the way, this ties into our parents' party idea.
00:29:01.000Why are we vaccinating six-month-year-old?
00:29:03.000Why are we having young kids be exposed to drag queen events?
00:29:07.000Why are these are good questions, by the way?
00:29:12.000And what the response from the nihilists would be: well, what difference does it make?
00:29:20.000And from my experience with talking to other people, far too many psychiatrists are just pushing pills on people.
00:29:27.000They're not actually doing CBT counseling, they're not actually doing deep and constructive therapy.
00:29:34.000They could just be pushing pills on people, especially, I mean, if you are prescribing psychiatric drugs to preschoolers, according to the data, there's hundreds of thousands of preschoolers that are on Riddlin.
00:29:52.000Does that make a child more or less likely to have social or antisocial tendencies?
00:29:58.000So, don't be surprised when all of a sudden you mix all these together, you have this philosophical contagion, you have a massive reservoir of interventions.
00:30:08.000We don't even know what it does to children.
00:30:12.000It says here: quote, the psychiatric drugging of our children, a development, a developing international crisis.
00:30:17.000Are you even allowed to say this out loud?
00:30:29.000Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson Johnson.
00:30:31.000When's the last time you saw a cable television program do a deep dive on antidepressants and their role potentially on harming and damaging people?
00:30:40.000Now, mind you, some people take antidepressants and they talk very favorably about it.
00:30:45.000They say, Charlie, it's a wonderful thing.
00:30:47.000Other people take them and it intensifies their problem.
00:30:52.000But how much of that very well could have been solved with healthy living, understanding how dopamine works, maybe regulating your serotonin levels, finding other natural interventions, turmeric, such as trying to lower your inflammation.
00:31:10.000By the way, inflammation is now shown to be tied to depression, according to some studies.
00:31:14.000Again, a lot of this stuff is debated.
00:31:17.000I'm not trying to proclaim to be one, but just read the literature of people that do know what they're talking about, of other neuroscientists.
00:31:22.000And the takeaway that is now overwhelming in kind of the dissident neuroscientist community is these drugs might be doing more harm than good.
00:31:33.000The reflex is medicate, isolate, put them in front of a screen, and don't interrupt them despite how much pornography they're watching, video games they're playing, or substance they're putting in their body.
00:31:45.000That removes you from the richness of life.
00:31:51.000It is a petri dish for nihilism, what we've created.
00:31:56.000You see, don't be shocked when a young person says, I don't know what's real, because all they've been looking at is fantasy.
00:32:04.000They've been looking at fantasy when it comes to sexual interactions, fantasy when it comes to physical interactions, fantasy when it comes to intimacy.
00:32:13.000And then if they have a problem, like, well, got to intervene with SSRIs or benzodiazepans or Prozac or Zoloft, and then they go down on the curve and they do more of it, and the cycle continues.
00:32:26.000It's easy to blame the guns, but I think there's a deeper structural problem with the over-medication of children, the isolation of them, the lack of parenting that is correcting these incredibly damaging technological influences that I've mentioned previously.
00:32:44.000You want to get your voters' attention?
00:32:47.000You want to actually solve people's problems?
00:32:54.000And of course, all of this, all of that pales in comparison with the spiritual dimension and our spiritual crisis, the spiritual famine that we're living through right now.
00:33:02.000Malcolm emailed us, some, a good percentage of kids today quite literally use bad mental health as a way to become popular.
00:33:09.000I graduated high school, so I was around it all the time.
00:33:11.000Depression has become so hugely popular within this generation that, quote, depressed people have seemingly created a click.
00:33:17.000Granted, I can't say all of them are faking it, but it's clear a chunk are.
00:33:21.000It sucks to see a genuine mental problem be used for popularity's sake.
00:33:25.000I can't comment on that, but interesting take.
00:33:39.000Now, mind you, it is a heart matter, but even in the New Testament, it talks about how outside interventions, pharmacological interventions, otherwise known as pharmakia, could let's not destroy, but could harm your relationship with the divine.
00:33:56.000That is one of the reasons why Paul explicitly warns against drunkenness and pharmakia, which could be called marijuana or hallucinogenics or psychedelic drugs.
00:34:06.00037 school shooters and school-related violence committed by those under the influence of psychiatric drugs.
00:34:11.000Now, I'm going to go through this, but I'm already going to give you the devil's advocate argument.
00:34:16.000The devil's advocate argument is Charlie.
00:34:24.000So I just want to make sure that people know that the potential opposition out there, but I also don't think that's as strong as it could be.
00:34:32.000You go through here, 37 school shooters under the influence of psychiatric drugs, according to CCHRINT.org.
00:34:40.000It's the Citizen Commission on Human Rights International.
00:34:44.000May 1st, 2017, Austin, Texas, Kendricks White stabbed four people.
00:34:54.000We should link this on charliekirk.com.
00:34:56.000Again, I'm not saying that necessarily they cause it, but I'm also not dismissing it.
00:35:02.000And also, certain studies show that there could be adverse events that happen when taking these antidepressants, such as violence, nihilism, and increased depression.
00:35:11.000In fact, if you look at the black label on some of these drugs, in some of the trials, it showed anywhere between 3 to 5% of people that took some of these drugs potentially had those kind of adverse events.
00:35:23.000This one right here, you could go 18-year-old Finnish gunman, Pekka Eric Avin, shot and killed eight people.
00:35:46.000When you see it for yourself, we'll link it on charliekirk.com.
00:35:52.000And look, I'm not, this is a judgment-free zone.
00:35:54.000If those of you guys are on antidepressants, depressants, and all that, I'm not here to say you're making a mistake.
00:36:00.000I'm not here saying that you're a bad person.
00:36:02.000No, I'm still making a broader societal point, which is, is it necessary to over-medicate our children on these brain-altering, potentially brain-altering psychiatric drugs?
00:36:15.000I'm asking questions of how do drugs impact young people and self-harm and suicide.
00:36:22.000I'm wondering if there are other homeopathic and naturopathic interventions that could help young people, such as not staring at a screen all day long, having relationships that matter.
00:36:33.000This is the most depressed generation in history.
00:36:35.000It's also the most medicated generation in history.
00:36:39.000And I think a lot of parents are parenting out of fear.
00:36:45.000I think a lot of parents are wondering, what do I do?
00:36:51.000You see, a lot of these parents will send their kids to a psychiatrist.
00:36:54.000And the psychiatrist will say, well, there's something wrong with your child.
00:36:58.000They could potentially have suicidal tendencies.
00:37:00.000Here's three drugs that they might need to make them feel better.
00:37:03.000Now, mind you, we don't even know the other side effects.
00:37:06.000Paranoia, insomnia, weight gain, all sorts of other side effects that can happen from these drugs outside of potentially violent tendencies and all this.
00:37:15.000Now, am I saying that every single person that has these drugs that takes these drugs have terrible, terrible times?
00:37:30.000And so when we see this increase in mass violence and you see what happens when these people, I mean, you see this lunatic, this monster that is shooting in Highland Park, it makes you wonder what sort of, first of all, philosophical ideas were introduced that even make this idea to be entertained potentially in there in this world.
00:38:20.000At least you hold yourself to some natural law, some moral order.
00:38:24.000But we've actually done the worst possible combination.
00:38:27.000We've decided to tell young people that it's your truth, which puts an unbelievable amount of pressure, by the way, on them to try to figure this all out and navigate it.
00:38:35.000Tell them that there is no truth themselves, that it's all just subjectivity, which immediately will result in deconstructionism, postmodernism, and nothing more than pleasure seeking.
00:38:45.000And what we know from neurology and neuroscience is you'll become a deeply unhappy person very quickly.
00:38:52.000And then we put all of these fake window dressing substances on top of it, acting as if everything's going to be fine.
00:39:01.000Maybe we should get back to things that work.
00:40:28.000It seems as if our children are no longer protected.
00:40:32.000The innocence of our children is no longer protected.
00:40:35.000From vaccine mandates to their spiritual innocence also being taken, from their sexual innocence also being taken.
00:40:44.000But what I really want to focus on is the idea here of the over-prescription of antidepressants and these other interventions.
00:40:53.000And to help us unpack that, someone who I really enjoy having on, the author of The Bodies of Others, The New Authoritarians, COVID-19, and The War Against the Human, the author of which is Dr. Naomi Wolf.
00:41:18.000Nihilism mixed with these incredibly, let's say, powerful pharmacological compounds such as SSRIs and benzodiazepines, Zoloft, and Xanax, and how we are over-prescribing them to our nation's youth.
00:41:35.000The latest study shows that 12 to 13% of our nation's young people are on some form of psychiatric drugs.
00:41:41.000What is the potential downside of that?
00:42:04.000And I really agree with you about your concerns.
00:42:08.000First, what I would say is we've imposed on children and teenagers and young adults in the last two years, circumstances that the bodies of others point out are guaranteed to cause mental illness,
00:42:24.000to cause anxiety, to cause depression, and to cause other kinds of stresses that young adults have never been subjected to, really in the history of human beings, you know, outside of places like North Korea or the Warsaw Ghetto.
00:42:39.000And what I mean is this, just in the last two years, we isolated young adults.
00:42:54.000Even now, and the bodies of others starts with, and I've written about this a lot, you know, starting with my book in 2008, The End of America, which looked at the effect of isolation on political prisoners.
00:43:07.000You're not allowed to keep political prisoners isolated.
00:43:10.000You're not allowed to keep prisoners isolated or in solitary confinement for long.
00:43:15.000Even one day of isolation causes permanent changes in the brain and can cause mental illness and psychosis.
00:43:23.000So we, to my astonishment, at places like Ivy League universities, major state universities, kids who test, young adults who test positive for COVID, and these PCR tests are full of problems, as I point out as well, they're isolated for up to a week alone in their rooms with nothing, you know, not allowed to be, you know, outside with other young adults.
00:43:48.000They're, you know, driven to attend classes online and not allowed even to be in outside classrooms with young adults.
00:43:56.000So we've done this for two years and totally predictably, it's had an effect on young adults' mental health and on teenagers and children's mental health.
00:44:04.000Early on in the pandemic, I was hearing from doctors, dissident doctors, because they were facing and still are facing backlash for even talking about this, that the phrase child suicidality was up as never before.
00:44:17.000Teenagers are expressing suicidal ideation.
00:44:20.000Well, this isn't all going to just go away because we've been allowed out.
00:44:24.000We've still given them a completely psychotic reality in which human touch is supposed to be, you know, lethal, in which you can kill someone by just walking past them and breathing, in which they can't be sure of the future.
00:44:40.000And, you know, I'm just an employer of young adults now, and I hear this despair all the time.
00:44:47.000Like, what are you going to be in five years?
00:44:48.000I ask people when I interview them for a job.
00:44:51.000And if they're in their early 20s, they can't answer that question because the last two years have ripped up all the social contracts.
00:44:57.000So yes, and so to just end this riff, you know, bring it back to psychiatric drugs, having given them a mental illness causing social contract and reality, of course, the same doctors who stood by for all this nonsense and harm are doling out SSRIs like there's no tomorrow instead of treating or encouraging them to actually treat the things that are generating mental illness.
00:45:24.000I want you to elaborate on it briefly, which is that even in political prisoners, solitary confinement is not allowed for periods of time.
00:45:31.000Yet that's precisely what we did with tens of millions of our nation's young people, where we really told them that you're not allowed to see any of your peers, any of your friends, creating antisocial tendencies.
00:45:43.000Pornography consumption went up, drug consumption went up, video game consumption went up, streaming services went up, all of these things that are, by definition, nothing more than photons hitting a screen.
00:45:57.000And you have to wonder the damage that does to a 12, 13, or 14-year-old that is still trying to distinguish between reality and their imagination.
00:46:05.000Can you elaborate more on how we treat our own nation's children more cruel than even what we would a prisoner of war?
00:46:16.000And this would never be like the Geneva Conventions don't allow, you know, Guantanamo to treat political prisoners the way we've treated children, teenagers, and young 20-somethings in the last two years.
00:46:32.000So what you just said is really profound.
00:46:33.000And in the bodies of others, I also have a chapter that shows exactly, you know, why these tech companies supported the lockdowns and supported a reality in which people whose brains, as you say rightly, are just developing, you know, to switch them off of IRL, you know, real life school, real life sports with their friends, real life hanging out at the playground.
00:46:58.000And then if you're a late older teenager, young adult, real life dating, real life relationships, and switch them onto what you just described, addiction to video games, addiction to meta, before meta has even been rolled out, and a lack of ability to relate to other human beings.
00:47:16.000It's a generating of Asperger's type personalities, even in children and young adults who are perfectly normal in terms of their actual brain development.
00:47:28.000And the result is Nintendo, which was a dying brand, is up 20 to 25% net revenue over the last two years.
00:47:47.000But what you get is this culture of children, teenagers and young adults who literally aren't socialized to go outside and connect with other human beings because they've been conditioned to have all of their needs met digitally.
00:48:07.000And a lot of those policies are intended to foster this.
00:48:10.000For example, I've been very irate about masks.
00:48:17.000What they do, however, and the bodies of others talks about this a lot, is that they impair kids' abilities to acquire speech and to speak to each other, and they impair young adults' ability to do what young adults are supposed to do.
00:48:48.000They're to disable the human ability to be fascinated by another human face or to just be addicted to human communication, to be able to pick up human cues.
00:49:00.000So I'm the stepmother of a recently turned 11-year-old.
00:49:03.000And I was watching during the lockdowns as his peers' language degenerated, their ability to pick up facial cues and to express their emotions with facial expressions degenerated.
00:49:15.000And then finally, he said, look, you know, Naomi, my friends and I run home after school and turn on our phones so we can see our friends' faces.
00:49:25.000I'm okay as long as I can see my friends' faces on the screen.
00:49:29.000Naomi, you have a book out the bodies of others, and I have not read the book, but we've talked about it a little bit.
00:49:35.000Can you talk about the profit incentive here, though?
00:49:37.000So generally, I think profits are wonderful and good and can motivate good behavior.
00:49:42.000When you look at children, though, what if the profit motive is to try to fill them with vaccines they don't need, drugs that harm them, and then other interventions that solve for the things that those things caused?
00:49:53.000Can you talk about how the profit motive can actually work against the well-being of our children?
00:49:59.000Well, that's essentially the core argument of the bodies of others that a handful of bad actors, including the Chinese Communist Party, the World Economic Forum, big tech companies, and bad nonprofits like the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, all of whom are self-interested, use the pandemic in such a way as to crush human advantages over digital technologies,
00:50:27.000to crush human civilization, crush in-person classrooms, in-person universities, in-person playtime, if we're talking specifically about kids, and re-engineer our society in such a way as to leave us always asking permission of drug companies and of digital technologies to be human, to engage in commerce.
00:50:49.000And capitalism is awesome if you have free will.
00:50:52.000But what we saw in the last two years is that our freedoms to choose have been stripped away from us and certainly stripped away from children who are not old enough to consent to injections that statistically don't have a risk-benefit ratio that serves them or to agree to having their schools shut down, having their universities shut down, and so on.
00:51:19.000And what you see is these bad actors are invested in both ends, right?
00:51:23.000So Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation is invested in the vaccines.
00:51:27.000Zuckerberg Foundation is invested in the vaccines.
00:51:31.000These same platforms deplatform people like me who raise concerns early on about menstrual dysregulation, for instance, with the vaccines, or doctors who warn about heart damage to young adult men, especially and teenage men with these mRNA vaccines.
00:51:48.000And then on the other side, Microsoft and Salesforce and other digital platforms are manufacturing the vaccine passports.
00:51:58.000And they've been trying to roll those out in the U.S.
00:52:00.000We fought hard against them, but they successfully rolled them out in Europe, in Israel, in Australia, and around the world.
00:52:06.000And those vaccine passports then generate more profits by our being under essentially a China-style social credit system because all of our data are being harvested and we can be stopped at any time from participating in society.
00:52:22.000So these are 180 degree coercions and efforts to strip us of our free will in a way that drives the astronomical profits that I spell out in the bodies of others for these companies that are behind the messages and the censorship and the coercion and the vaccine mandates of the last two years.
00:52:44.000And I just mentioned a couple of companies, but you could go on and on.
00:52:47.000Zoom is up 20 to 25 percent last two years.
00:52:50.000They have servers that run through China.
00:52:52.000So it's a massive hack of our IP and our business meetings and so on, in addition to the profits generated.
00:53:00.000If you crush, you know, High Street and Main Street and little shops and little boutiques and little bodegas, everyone has to order from Amazon up 20 to 25 percent.
00:53:12.000Not to even mention the, you know, 23 billion or so generated by for Pfizer and Moderna, especially for rolling out these mRNA injections, which I have a team of 3,000 highly credentialed medical researchers, biostatisticians, physicians, RNs, lab scientists who are reading through the Pfizer documents released under court order and finding catastrophic harms.
00:53:40.000Well, who is at statistically no risk is children from COVID, almost no risk is young adults.
00:53:47.000But the harms to young adults, to children, to babies, to lactating women, to men's sperm production, the strokes, the clots, the heart attacks, the encephaly, it's catastrophic in the Pfizer documents.
00:54:04.000And there's literally no reason young adults and children have to be coerced into taking these experimental injections.
00:54:18.000And this is a topic that I want to continue to explore, which is when you have a group of companies that work in collusion with one another, you cannot sue them, and there's not alternatives and competitors against them.
00:54:30.000And their profit motive is to put substances into your children.