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00:01:25.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:32.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:58.000And as we know, Turning Point Action just announced an incredible amount of business yesterday.
00:02:04.000The $5 million partnership with Scott Pressler.
00:02:09.000Look, when you're watching the Charlie Kirk show, when you're going to the Turning Point Action events and Turning Point Action Act Con is coming up this July 14th and 15th, you have to understand that this is more than just paying attention to the news every day.
00:02:27.000We're going to analyze what's going on in Ohio, what's going down in Iowa, what's going on in New Hampshire, what's going on in South Carolina as the 2024 horse race, the trail of the tape, if you will, is going on.
00:02:40.000But at the same time, you also have to understand that it's not enough anymore.
00:02:45.000It's not enough anymore just to be listening to the news passively.
00:02:49.000It's not enough to just be sitting back and saying, oh, you know what?
00:03:23.000You flip those states and then specific counties within those states that you can then micro-target and demographics and bands of voters that you can go for specifically doing the work now with the Scott Prussians of the world.
00:03:47.000Charlie Kirk, Ben Johnson, so many great speakers, right?
00:03:50.000But even then, beyond the speakers, what's more important is meeting with like-minded individuals in your home area, in your hometown, or being able to find people that you can network with and then go back to one of those states, whether it be one of those three or whether there's one that's nearby.
00:04:43.000I personally believe, and I say this as a son of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, I personally believe that we should go back to one election day.
00:05:24.000Logistics, logistics, logistics wins the day.
00:05:28.000How are you going to enact those policies in states that you do not control currently as of right now?
00:05:35.000The five states that the Democrats flipped, and we can get into how they flipped it in 2000 Mule certainly does that, but I'm talking to you right now, logistically, pragmatically, in the real world.
00:05:46.000We have to come up with a plan to win if we are ever going to affect that change at the legal level that we all want.
00:05:53.000So are you going to play to win or are you just going to play?
00:06:00.000And I know if Charlie were here, he would say the same thing because that's why he had Scott Pressler on yesterday and went all in, all in, $5 million just for the state of Wisconsin.
00:06:21.000If you guys disagree with me, if you find what I'm saying to be so morally repugnant, and I'm admitting, right?
00:06:27.000I'm admitting up front, I hate the entire concept of ballot harvesting.
00:06:32.000I believe it should be one man, one vote, one woman, one vote, that you should be able, and you should go through the American tradition because it is a civic tradition.
00:06:42.000It was a civic tradition in this country for hundreds of years that you go and vote at the polls on election day.
00:06:50.000You wait in line, you meet people, and that was the original election integrity, right?
00:06:56.000Think before we had, you know, driver's licenses and state IDs and this thing, the original election integrity was that you knew the people in your community because each precinct, the idea that a precinct is so small, the idea that it was so, that it was so tight-knit that you would go in there.
00:07:17.000And I can remember this even in my own life.
00:07:18.000I can remember going in and you see the same people working the elections and she says, oh, hey, Jack, I just saw your mom in this morning.
00:07:52.000Did your favorite brand, did your favorite branch of the United States military get visited by the Pride Fairy yet this week?
00:07:59.000Well, my branch, the United States Navy, my beloved U.S. Navy, it was interesting.
00:08:04.000So they had the Pride colors up for one day on their Twitter account.
00:08:10.000They went rainbow, but then they switched back one day after.
00:08:13.000Now, we don't know if that's because somebody, I don't know who would do this on Twitter was cyberbullying them, or is this the new policy that you're only going to be up for one day?
00:08:22.000You're only going to be prideful for one day and then you switch.
00:08:25.000Because we saw the exact same thing from MLB, Major League Baseball.
00:08:31.000And by the way, this is, I don't know, what do you call this?
00:08:33.000The progress flag, the bio PC flag, because they have the one that has the original rainbow plus the Pride, plus the transgender flag, plus the brown stripe and the black stripe.
00:08:46.000So they're making sure to get every single division or gender, racial, et cetera, representation in.
00:08:54.000But I got to say, you know, some of you guys, you're not going that hard.
00:08:58.000You know, Major League Baseball, you've only got, for example, one, just one of your teams is celebrating the drag nuns.
00:09:06.000And shouldn't it really be every Major League Baseball team showing their inclusion, showing their wonderful, being sarcastic, you haven't told, in June 16th coming up, the LA Dodgers, and they're going ahead with this.
00:09:19.000In fact, one of these disgusting anti-Catholic, anti-Christian, anti-Jesus, anti-religion members of this hate group was going up and flying a pride flag in LA.
00:09:37.000And you see, I have this LA, I don't know if she's a manager, administrator, you know, county commissioner comes up.
00:09:42.000Let's bring the sister as if it's totally normal.
00:09:44.000It looked like a scene out of a movie, out of some like twisted version of the, you know, Dylan Mulvaney Hunger Games or something, where she's like, bring the sister up and we're going to raise the pride flag.
00:09:56.000And then the pride flag goes up and this and everybody acts like doing this little clap, with a little bob haircut.
00:10:04.000This is what our country is devolved into.
00:10:08.000This is how bad we've gotten so far away from any basic.
00:10:13.000Wait, do we actually have the clip of this?
00:10:15.000Wait, somebody's telling me we have the clip of this.
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00:13:31.000I understand that it's not the way that we've done things in the past.
00:13:34.000But unfortunately, and keep in mind, I'm not talking about the 38 states that Republicans control.
00:13:38.000I'm talking about those key swing states that are going to be a must-win, regardless of who the nominee is, regardless of who ends up coming out on top.
00:13:49.000President Trump is ahead in all the polls, seeing some movement on the second tier.
00:13:54.000It looks like it'll be Trump, but even if it's not him, okay, even if it's not, it doesn't matter from this perspective, because while we're so focused on the strategic, Democrats and the left have been fighting back and winning at the tactical level.
00:14:10.000However, there is a development in this, and the Washington Free Beacon has the story, even based on reporting from the New York Times.
00:16:02.000And when the Great Recession hit and the bailouts of the big banks and the massive money printing and the massive overspending hit, a lot of millennials went back to college and they saddled themselves on with more debt.
00:16:16.000And then when they got out, not me, by the way, I joined the military.
00:16:20.000And when they got on into the workforce, they realized that they couldn't afford rent.
00:16:33.000You're not seeing this with Zoomers, by the way.
00:16:35.000You're actually seeing Zoomers follow a much closer to the traditional trend.
00:16:40.000But for millennials, family formation, household formation, marriage, all of these indicators of sort of moving from that adolescence into adulthood were delayed.
00:16:52.000And of course, if you know anything about millennials, what do they all try to do?
00:16:56.000They all try to remain adolescents forever.
00:17:02.000While millennials overwhelmingly backed Obama, only half those same voters now in their 30s and or early 40s voted for Joe Biden in 2020, according to Times estimates.
00:17:11.000Exit polls showed an even more drastic shift, with Biden winning by just 5145 among voters who were 18 to 27 in 2008.
00:17:22.000That same group of voters, by the way, for the record, wrote in my dad that year, was not going to vote for John McCain.
00:17:28.000That same group of voters preferred Democratic congressional candidates by just 10 points.
00:17:34.000While Cohen wrote the findings may not seem stunning as almost every cohort of voters under 50 has shifted towards the right over the last decade, they cut sharply against a long-held Democratic article of faith.
00:17:46.000For 20 years, they've been saying that this is the coalition of the ascendant.
00:17:50.000Young voters, blacks, Hispanics, women would enshrine Democrats as the eternal majority, the eternal majority.
00:17:59.000Organizations like Turning Point USA, like Turning Point Action, that have been out there standing in the gap, standing in the breach, going specifically to these campuses, going to all.
00:18:27.000None of them had the same grassroots grit that Turning Point does.
00:18:33.000And by focusing on these voters and now going and continuing to focus on Zoomers coming up through college now, there is a huge opportunity, an arbitrage opportunity for the right, for Republicans, for conservative victory by going to them with a pragmatic message.
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00:21:18.000Our next couple of guests that I want to bring on as a guest when I am guest hosting on the Charlie Kirk show, it is, of course, Charlie Kirk himself, as well as Darren Beattie of Revolver News.
00:22:03.000And just as we were going up, happened to see, and maybe we can just kind of kick off what you guys think about this, that it looks like Elon Musk has invited.
00:22:14.000So over on Twitter, which seems to be the center of almost everything, at least it's not on Rumble these days, he has invited RFK Jr. to a spaces discussion that we saw at the spaces with Ron DeSantis last week.
00:22:27.000RFK Jr. had replied, yes, how's Monday at 2 p.m. Eastern?
00:22:31.000So it looks as though we're seeing a booking and an announcement going on right now.
00:22:36.000And the question is partially about the role of Twitter as, I mean, look, Twitter is already going to be in the history books because of Donald Trump and his use of it in 2016.
00:22:46.000But also, I wanted to ask you guys what you think the effect of the Kennedy, or if you think there's been an effect of the Kennedy president or, you know, presidential campaign on this populist left.
00:22:57.000It kind of used to be the role that Bernie played.
00:22:59.000And yet all of a sudden, here comes RFK in an, you know, because Bernie basically lost his credibility.
00:23:05.000But, you know, maybe I'm going too far.
00:23:09.000Well, as I've said before, I wholeheartedly welcome RFK's participation in the 2024 cycle.
00:23:19.000I think he brings to table valuable perspective.
00:23:23.000His big thing, as far as I'm aware, is COVID, or although I think he expanded beyond that, but simply his position on COVID, I think is critical to inject no unintended into the national conversation.
00:23:39.000Especially, you know, on the left, you know, you point out he's sort of the counterpart to Bernie, a much improved version of Bernie, actually, but he brings that sort of populist accountability to the Democrats.
00:23:52.000And the contrast between RFK and Biden is quite interesting.
00:23:58.000And it looks like in, you know, every time Biden takes a spill, every time he takes a stumble, you know, every time, you know, he soils his diapers, so to speak, there's a lot of chatter on the left saying, gee, why aren't we going to open up this primary process?
00:24:15.000So I think it adds a little bit of pressure there.
00:24:19.000You know, if the Democrats open it up, then that's great.
00:24:24.000But if they don't, it just is going to aggravate a lot of people.
00:24:28.000And so I think from a strategic perspective, from our point of view, it's good that he's in there, but also from a substantive perspective, because insofar as his main issue is COVID, which I think it's fair to say, as far as I can tell, he's right on the money when it comes to COVID.
00:24:47.000And so I think it's really valuable to have that perspective in the conversation.
00:24:52.000Well, Charlie, you're an expert on mass movements.
00:25:27.000And what he has is a revered and quite honestly sanctified last name in upper middle class white liberal circles, especially in the intelligentsia, which is Kennedy.
00:25:39.000And so being from Camelot, he now has to be taken seriously immediately.
00:25:44.000More so than, I mean, Mary Ann Williamson, you know, the crystal woman or whatever, like the chakra thing.
00:25:49.000It's just no one takes that seriously.
00:26:19.000Kennedy does have, you know, the issue with his voice, which people try to mock and make fun of, but he actually uses it to his advantage for his worldview, which he believes actually was because, he says, because of a vaccine injury.
00:26:51.000But he has wanted for a long time to be taken seriously.
00:26:54.000And now, because he is a presidential candidate and he's anybody but Biden and he has a last name of Kennedy, you know, he has 19 to 20% in polling.
00:27:02.000Wall Street Journal just sat down for a long interview with him and they challenge him on the vaccine stuff.
00:27:06.000He does a great job of pushing back on it, by the way.
00:27:08.000He's very, very well read and incredibly articulate.
00:27:12.000And I don't really think some of the counter arguments are nearly as has as much has as much punch because they immediately just try to call him names and all this, but he really understands the topics.
00:27:20.000But putting the vaccine thing aside, because that's what people know him for, he also is, I think, one of the most articulate and deep thinkers when it comes to the threat of the administrative state, this unelected, unaccountable Leviathan, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Department of Justice.
00:27:38.000I mean, I think that's top line issue, whoever becomes president.
00:27:45.000I think he could potentially have a bridge between some center-left Democrats that are looking for somebody on the political sphere that thinks differently than kind of this corporatist Democrat Party, Democrat perspective.
00:28:01.000And I think it helps the Republican side because, Jack, I was at an event in Idaho recently, and I said, what do you guys think of Nikki Haley?
00:28:18.000I say, okay, we are under a kind of mass hypnotism of the Uniparty where we're supposed to hate Democrats and love Republicans.
00:28:27.000Again, that's the kind of talking point mockingbird media stuff, right, Jack?
00:28:31.000Every Republican good, every Democrat bad.
00:28:32.000Meanwhile, they all do the same stuff.
00:28:34.000I'm telling you, the grassroots aren't buying that nonsense.
00:28:36.000When I talk to the grassroots, they have more good things to say about a Camelot Kennedy Democrat than someone who calls himself a Republican or herself a Republican.
00:28:46.000I've experienced the exact same thing.
00:28:48.000I'm telling you right now, this means that there's an 80 to 90% populist nationalist movement that I don't know if it will ever materialize.
00:29:37.000And so you have to kind of think about that.
00:29:38.000But I think conceptually, Bannon is super smart and he's ahead of the curve, as always, where he's saying, hold on a second, there's more agreement between the Trump base and the RFK Jr. base.
00:29:52.000It's the people in charge that are crushing the ordinary normal people, the muscular class.
00:29:57.000It's the laptop and Zoom class that did lockdowns, mass mandates, vaccine mandates, COVID-19 tyranny, trying to crush the everyday people, right?
00:30:06.000And so I think it's really important that we're able to liberate the conversation.
00:30:10.000I'm fully in support of RFK Jr. running against Joe Biden because the other thing that I think is the fraud of the Democrat Party.
00:30:17.000If you want to talk about how, okay, how do we beat the woke?
00:30:21.000The fraud of the Democrat Party is that the vast majority of their base have deeply held beliefs that they do not want a small set of corporations running the country.
00:30:33.000Yet the Democrat Party elite want a small set of corporations running the country.
00:30:37.000That is a recipe for disaster in the Democrats.
00:31:06.000Let's pretend we get the machinery right.
00:31:07.000Win on the actual political consensus building, Jack.
00:31:11.000If and when we realize the Democrat Party is currently the energy Democrat Party speaks like AOC on corporations, but acts like Chuck Schumer when it comes to pharmaceutical companies.
00:31:24.000That is incompatible and it's unsustainable.
00:31:28.000And if RFK Jr. is able to kind of rip off the fraud and expose how the Democrat Party has basically become shills for the top 100 companies and has become basically a place to park our donations and we'll give you whatever you want in the government, man, he could do some serious damage for the Democrat coalition.
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00:33:12.000And I guess bullish would have to be, you know, relative to reasonable expectations.
00:33:18.000I think we can get some mileage out of it, more mileage than we've gotten.
00:33:22.000And again, on net, I think it's a huge positive that RFK is part of the conversation, part of the race.
00:33:31.000And we talked about even 2015, 2016, the idea of some kind of broader reconfiguration or realignment of the politics became a central part of the conversation with Trump on one side and Bernie on the other side.
00:33:50.000I do think there are limitations to this.
00:33:53.000RFK himself has kind of vehemently rejected the notion of being on a ticket with Trump, but at the same time, he's going on media platforms and basically speaking to Trump's base.
00:34:04.000So there's kind of a mixed message there.
00:34:07.000Ultimately, though, you see a lot of these people on the left who are the kind of principled, anti-corporist, corporatist, anti-military industrial complex.
00:34:18.000From what I've seen so far, there is a limit.
00:34:36.000To finish the point, I think the whole realignment idea has a genuine underlying substance to it.
00:34:45.000But I think we kind of, through wishful thinking, maybe exaggerate what it can deliver.
00:34:52.000There's a lot of commonality in terms of just challenging the establishment, and that's where the overlap comes from.
00:34:58.000And we can articulate this in terms of the national security state, in terms of the bureaucracies, in terms of criticizing the media, criticizing corporations and so forth.
00:35:12.000But where it really starts to get hot is when you get into those issues that invite the pain box.
00:35:21.000Even a lot of people on the left, they find it safer to speak in the language of, oh, we're against corporations, this or that.
00:35:28.000But when you get into the details, they're not quite prepared to align with somebody like Trump, who genuinely is taking on the establishment on all cylinders.
00:35:40.000In the case of RFK, it's actually, there's a similar underlying dynamic, but I think it is inflected by the point that he's taking on the COVID issue, which I think is especially sacrosanct and protected.
00:35:58.000So he's getting maybe more of the pain box, more of the treatment generally reserved for conservatives because he's touching the third rail of COVID.
00:36:11.000But generally speaking, the people on the left, there's actually kind of an aggressive version of affirmative action in a way for people who are non-woke from the left.
00:36:24.000And again, you can get some mileage out of them.
00:36:27.000It's worth building those alliances and seeing how far that goes.
00:36:31.000But I think we should also do it with managed expectations because so few people are really ready for that pain box of the sort that comes at you when you speak and act like Donald Trump.
00:36:48.000But you know, and Charlie, you and I were chatting about this as well, that we are seeing some movement, at least in the corporate world, because we can see the external factors.
00:36:57.000And externally, I was talking about this earlier that, and I said this on Human Events yesterday, I have not seen with a few very notable exceptions, Bud Light, Target, the LA Dodgers, I have not seen this massive outpouring of the rainbow pride celebration this year, the way we have in years past.
00:37:20.000And it seems like even just for some of them, MLB, my beloved United States Navy, they changed the Twitter for one day.
00:37:30.000And the question is, how big of a victory is that?
00:37:33.000I mean, it is the state-run religion right now, right?
00:37:35.000It is the official orthodoxy of the regime, which is LGBT kind of converging with race nonsense that creates this smokescreen type distraction away from us talking about the middle class disappearing and people's purchasing power evaporating and our borders remaining wide open.
00:37:51.000So they have to keep these kind of holy relics of LGBT worship through the rainbow flag and race politics.
00:37:58.000But to see this is fascinating, to see major corporations in the military back off a little bit, that goes against kind of some of the core dogmas that has driven the Uniparty left for quite some time, right?
00:38:13.000They push forward on, they always play offense.
00:38:34.000I mean, the Daily Wire thing was confusing, and there were probably, there was like a mutiny among some of the engineers, but Elon Musk came out, the world's richest man.
00:38:42.000And he said that misgendering somebody is not hate speech, and you're allowed to do it.
00:38:52.000Daily Wire wanted to put What is a Woman on Twitter, fabulous film, Matt Walsh Heroes Work, best film in the last couple of years on the topic, without a doubt.
00:39:00.000And Twitter pseudo-censored it, and Elon said they weren't.
00:39:04.000Elon, to his great credit, though, has now repromoted it on the main feed saying every parent needs to watch this video and it's seen by millions and millions of people.
00:39:13.000So I think you mentioned it earlier, Jack.
00:39:15.000But that's a blow to kind of the pride regime.
00:39:18.000Target is now going to be kind of reclassified.
00:39:21.000That's my Twitter exchange, Elon Musk, here today, and is going to be reclassified as a bearish stock.
00:39:30.000And it's that the CNN headline here that we said that we were going to lead with if we had Wi-Fi was that, boy, Blake said it earlier, is that all of a sudden companies are afraid that there is a price to embracing pride.
00:39:44.000Everybody in the audience, this is a sign of hope.
00:39:46.000This goes to show that these wacky radical ideas do not have permanency by default, that you have agency, that you have purchasing power, that you stopping shopping and supporting good companies is starting to make an impact.
00:40:01.000And I guess what I would suggest is that potentially that because you have people like an RFK, like some of these center left types that are out there banging this drama, and it's feeding into this narrative that creates the grassroots groundswell and that you need the moms.
00:40:21.000And you were talking about this earlier this week.
00:40:23.000The TikTok moms, the Instagram moms, the mom fluencers who, and by the way, as we talked about with Zoom, with millennials and Zoomers are trending to the right.
00:40:34.000It is stuff like this: that if you've got children under 10, I think all of us here have children under 10, that this is stuff that directly affects us.
00:40:48.000We realize that when you are in those crucial years of family formation, when your kids are that young, they don't know anything about the world.
00:40:57.000You know, they don't know anything other than what you're telling them how the world is, and they believe you and they trust you.
00:41:02.000So if you are going to start introducing this stuff, like the Little League, by the way, the Little League, Little League Baseball, which last time I checked is not for adults.
00:41:10.000Maybe Ron DeSantis could tell us about that as a former Little League World Series champion.
00:41:14.000Could tell us why the Little League is now pushing the Pride Month that's out there as well.
00:41:21.000They are not doing this for the purpose of introducing sexual and sexualized topics towards