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00:03:17.000Apparently, they were supposed to rule on a contempt sanction potentially on one of the prosecutors.
00:03:24.000Remember, that goes back to the Daily Mail article that said the bullet didn't match, but it was a complete, terrible bastardization of a headline.
00:03:32.000One of the prosecutors apparently said something to the press, clarifying what that actually meant.
00:03:37.000Which, what does it actually mean, Blake?
00:03:39.000It literally just means all they can say is the evidence does not conclusively demonstrate that it is a match because the bullet was destroyed.
00:03:48.000Because the bullet was heavily damaged.
00:05:37.000However, this happens, we're already seeing the case that the effort to get justice for Charlie's murder has already been mangled by people online, and you know who we're referring to, who are obsessed with arguing for Tyler Robinson's innocence, who are going to run with anything they can grasp at to push this because they want to promote their alternative theories that endlessly revolve around attacking the people close to Charlie,
00:06:05.000and let's be frank, attacking Israel because they're obsessed with doing that all of the time.
00:06:08.000And that's why that headline went viral.
00:06:10.000That's why that prosecutor, if they'd made the mistake of breaking the rules and talking to the press, that's why they did it.
00:07:07.000It's a whole, again, you've got a preliminary hearing and then you've got the actual trial that's going to.
00:07:13.000Be, you know, much more involved and the rules would change.
00:07:16.000The preliminary hearing is basically laying out the case, the state's case against Tyler Robinson, which, again, our perspective on this is it's overwhelming and, you know, multifaceted.
00:07:29.000There's tons of different aspects to it.
00:07:31.000There's DNA, there's video, there's all kinds of things.
00:07:36.000I will, the judge is still reading apparently right now.
00:07:39.000So I will have more updates as the hour continues.
00:07:42.000We're monitoring it, obviously, very, very closely.
00:07:45.000And, You know, we've got a whole bunch we're going to get into with Iran, tons of updates there, but let's just end this by reflecting on the fact that this was Father's Day.
00:07:55.000And, you know, this was the first Father's Day that Erica and her children and Charlie's children didn't have their father around.
00:08:01.000So it was very, they were all I thought about yesterday.
00:08:06.000Besides my time with my own kids, it was a terrible reminder of what we had lost and what Erica has lost and what those children have lost.
00:08:15.000And so, you know, yeah, we've got court updates and we've got Iran updates and there's internet drama and all these types of things.
00:08:24.000But, This, what you're looking at on your screen right now, is what matters is that Charlie wasn't here for his kids on Father's Day.
00:08:35.000And, you know, that's what's really important.
00:08:39.000I will tell you this whole weekend, Blake, was like a reminder to me of what is really important.
00:08:45.000And it's family, it's making sure we can live in a country safely, that we can say what we believe in safety and not having to fear an assassin's bullet.
00:08:57.000It's making sure that this beautiful country that we have continues moving forward and health as a healthy democracy, a representative republic, a constitutional republic.
00:09:11.000And, anyways, that's my big takeaway from this weekend is that if you are looking at everything online and that's all you can see, then you literally should remember that family is what's most important and that staying close to the Lord is what's most important.
00:09:28.000And, Just go touch grass, go roll down a hill because it will do you some serious good.
00:09:35.000And so, anyways, we remember Erica and the kids, and we pray for them and we're with them, have their back 100%.
00:09:45.000Update Lance Twiggs, the trans identifying lover of Tyler Robinson, will not be required to testify in person.
00:09:56.000So, the defense's motion did not succeed.
00:10:01.000I think that's a good thing for the prosecution in the state and candidly for the preliminary hearing.
00:10:08.000It might be different at the trial, but they've got them on video already and they get to show that.
00:10:11.000It's just, it's so bizarre where this preliminary hearing is now this week long thing and it is not the trial.
00:10:18.000It is the prelude to the trial before a plea is even entered.
00:10:23.000The whole thing is infuriating if you're on our end of it.
00:10:26.000I will tell you listen, we want justice, we want the truth, but this is like, it just, and this is what happens in a capital case.
00:10:34.000By the way, For the contempt, you know, the contempt against the prosecution, the defense is asking that they remove the death penalty as one of the sanctions.
00:10:47.000It's crazy that they're even asking for that.
00:10:49.000It is, but it's just everything about this.
00:10:51.000We've mentioned this before that a big thing that's driving all of the weird psychosis around this case that you and I know exist is how incredibly long it's taking to do everything.
00:11:04.000I'll be frank, I don't think this case, I don't think the details of this case require that it need a two or three year criminal justice process.
00:12:20.000So there was this huge dust up over the weekend, but the big news is that JD Vance is out front and he is basically saying huge progress is being made.
00:12:32.000And I just can't help but notice, Blake, you and I, quietly behind the scenes, much like Charlie, we're kind of very skeptical about going in.
00:12:41.000You can always choose when to start, can't choose when to end a war, right?
00:13:12.000He called it talking trash, talking about if we unfreeze these assets, then what would happen with that money?
00:13:19.000There needs to be an inspection regime so they can't use them to fund terrorism.
00:13:24.000So, what is the suggestion that they use those?
00:13:27.000Billions of dollars of unfrozen assets to buy American produce to feed their people.
00:13:33.000So these are really interesting creative mechanisms.
00:13:36.000Now, none of this has been signed on the dotted line.
00:13:38.000There's still conflict going on in Lebanon, back and forth with Israel.
00:13:43.000I'm telling you, the same people that are opposing this peace deal were the same people that were really pushing for an escalation of this conflict, and the same people that did not want President Trump to run again, the same people that did not want him to run in the first.
00:13:58.000Time in 2016, it's almost like you've seen the roles reverse, and that is a very telltale sign that this is probably a really good deal for the American people.
00:14:09.000We're going to talk with Rich Barris in the next segment.
00:14:11.000That 70% of Americans want to see peace.
00:14:14.000They think now is the right time to get to peace, and there's a lot of people really upset about that.
00:14:18.000A lot of people are, and I think that I think you're seeing a big split here, and we'll talk to Rich about that for sure, which is I think there's a lot of people who are, we'll be frank, they're big war hawks in DC.
00:14:48.000And they'll willingly take a deal that makes some concessions to the Iranians, that is much more of a compromise look than a total unconditional surrender look to it.
00:14:58.000And I think they'll be grateful for that, even if it's not what the DC.0.62
00:15:02.000People who are invested in Northrop Grumman want.
00:15:04.000Yeah, and I want to get into this trash talk thing, and it's well said, Blake.
00:15:09.000What we told the Iranians yesterday is when you guys engage in what us millennials might call trash talk, you can't expect the President of the United States not to respond and not to correct the record.0.90
00:15:20.000So when they say things that aren't true, the President is going to respond to it.0.99
00:15:28.000When they make threats that aren't rooted in reality, they have to accept that the President of the United States is actually going to set the record straight.
00:15:36.000So, yes, there was a little bit of threatening, there was a little bit of whining, but at the end of the day, the talks continued and we made great progress.1.00
00:15:43.000Yeah, so this is what Iran does, right?1.00
00:15:45.000And the question is, does this mean they're ever going to be capable of behaving in good faith?1.00
00:16:25.000You got to actually kind of say, hey, you can do X, but we get Y, right?
00:16:30.000That's the way a negotiation works, okay?
00:16:32.000And we're going to have Steve Dace on in hour two.
00:16:35.000And we're going to talk about what do these detractors that don't want peace want?
00:16:39.000What is the alternative that they could possibly be seeking?
00:16:43.000I haven't heard a good explanation yet.
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00:17:46.000All right, Rich Barris, Big Data Poll, the People's Pundit.
00:18:17.000Vice President JD Vance has had a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad week on a media tour for his new book about his Catholic.
00:18:24.000Conversion, Vance was the only administration official defending the president's memorandum of understanding with Iran.
00:18:30.000And for five days straight, the vice president gaslit, smeared, prevaricated, and straight up lied to our faces about what was in the MOU, why it wasn't being released, and a host of other things.
00:18:41.000Here's the truth Vice President JD Vance just brought the great United States to its knees with a humiliating deal weeks before our 250th birthday.
00:18:53.000And he's decided, like many before him, to blame Israel.
00:18:57.000For the mess his administration created.
00:19:00.000If this was a dry run for 2028, it was at least very clarifying.
00:19:41.000Look, yeah, I mean, there's a personal opinion.
00:19:44.000And oh, by the way, of course, thanks for having me on.
00:19:47.000There's a personal opinion, Andrew, that you may not agree with.
00:19:51.000And I think that's what she's getting mixed up here.
00:19:53.000There's your feelings, and then there's reality and what the country thinks.
00:19:58.000And the reality is, Vance's stock has risen as empirically we can prove this.
00:20:04.000He's up 10 points in nomination polling, which we're doing.
00:20:06.000It'll probably be out tomorrow if I don't get it out later today.
00:20:09.000The peace deal is basically 80 20 positive or popular.
00:20:14.000And we have to keep in mind that this war was not popular.
00:20:19.000And I think what people who support it didn't seem to understand is that this deal, whether we like it or not, is a consequence of starting a war without the support of the American public behind you, which means that any military solution that you think you can achieve is not really a viable option.
00:20:38.000You're just completely duping yourself into believing that the United States of America and the voters of America are going to take thousands and thousands of casualties.
00:20:47.000While armies of U.S. soldiers go marching into Iran to grab uranium that they don't care about, Andrew.
00:20:54.000Like, this isn't, come on, this is a little bit loony.
00:20:57.000Just to give you an idea, the president hasn't been able to creep above 42% since this war started.
00:21:21.000Which was up from an 11 point lead the month before.
00:21:24.000This was all to punish the Republican Party and the Trump administration for starting a war they explicitly stated they did not want, period.
00:21:32.000So, you know, the vice president, this is another thing I'd say about that with him specifically, is that when we started right after the deal was announced, it was popular because people were knee jerk saying, yes, I support it because I didn't support the war.
00:21:45.000But as time went on, we were interested to see what would happen to that margin because it would tell us whether or not the vice president was effectively selling it.
00:21:53.000And whether people were reacting in a positive way to what he was saying.
00:21:56.000The vice president had a stellar week last week.
00:22:00.000He got more support as the days went on for this deal, even though we can see, because you and I are in this business, we can see how much pushback, even from the president's own supposed side, how much pushback it got.
00:22:12.000So, despite all of that pushback and despite how loud they were, the opposition to the deal was, they still lost the argument.
00:22:20.000You know, what's interesting to me is I've had this suspicion the entire time that the loudest voices pushing for escalation, and again, Bhatia is a friend.
00:23:02.000And I said this last week, and we're actually going to talk about this in an hour or two with Steve Dace.
00:23:07.000And he's, you know, Steve Dace is like a Gen Xer, like, you know, steeped in, you know, triumphalism, Americana, let's, you know, blow up the bad guys.
00:23:17.000Like, he'll admit, like, that's the way he's kind of wired.
00:23:19.000And he's like, I don't know what the alternative here is, though.
00:23:23.000And I could make the case, though, and this is what I said last week, that a weakened regime remaining intact in Iran could ultimately be the best thing.
00:23:33.000For the region, because it doesn't fall into some sort of civil war, sectarian violence situation that we saw in Iraq, right?0.90
00:23:41.000So, keeping the current structure in place here, the Iranian people want to overthrow their government in the coming months, more power to them.0.81
00:24:02.000This is what I think the pro war side never understood.
00:24:06.000The American public is not, they're not ignorant to the facts.
00:24:09.000The truth is, they've been through this before and they don't care.
00:24:13.000The risks to them are not great enough to ultimately pay the cost that they're being asked to pay, especially not after we've been down this road before.
00:24:23.000It was a long road to Baghdad, as the book is appropriately titled.
00:24:27.000And they learned a lot of lessons along that road.
00:24:30.000And now here we are, after electing the peace ticket, trying to repeat the same mistake.
00:24:36.000The alternative is what we all have been saying it is.
00:24:41.000Um, in truth, we were never really having a completely honest argument with each other, and the fact is, the American public knew that they understood, Rich.
00:25:45.000How do we make heads or tails of this?0.75
00:25:47.000Actually, I think it's, I know it makes, it seems like it's inconsistent, but it really isn't because I think you have a certain group who's saying no, not done, because they're looking toward, you know, the negotiation process and all of this being finalized before they're willing to say, yeah, I think we sufficiently curb their nuclear program.0.54
00:26:06.000So they're waiting for the, you know, not a war ending here, Andrew, right?
00:26:11.000But the negotiation process that the vice president's promising them.
00:26:15.000So I think some people are saying that.
00:26:17.000And then there is another group of people, which again is a hard hurdle for this pro war group to climb.
00:26:23.000I mean, it's just a hard hurdle for them to jump.
00:26:25.000It's hard to convince the country to do something like this when you have an entire group, it's anywhere between 25, 35% at any given time in the country, that basically says, what right do we have to tell another country they can't defend themselves with nuclear weapons?
00:26:39.000I mean, they just, we're arguing a regime, certain regimes aren't allowed to have certain weapons.
00:26:46.000And the fact of the matter is, a very significant Percentage of the American public doesn't even agree with that.
00:26:52.000So when they say no, it's not done, it's because some of them think that eventually Iran probably will get a nuclear weapon.
00:26:58.000And it's not really our prerogative to tell countries around the world that they can.
00:27:02.000And to be clear, what do these people think when they see these things?
00:27:06.000Kim Jong Un was supposed to be a monster, too, guys.
00:27:08.000I mean, he was supposed to be this irrational actor who couldn't get nuclear weapons or ICBMs because if he did, Seoul wouldn't exist the next day.0.93
00:27:35.000And Charlie really supported Elbridge Colby because Elbridge had published a paper, you know, sort of arguing that there could be a realism, a pragmatic realism approach to Iran, even if it had nukes, right?
00:27:48.000Now, President Trump has said that's not an option, okay?
00:28:42.000I just think they're going to get a rude awakening about what the priorities of the American people are.
00:28:46.000It's a lot like it reminds me of when President Trump was saying stuff about Mexico, saying the stuff about people coming from crap hole countries, and everyone's saying, oh, Trump's done now.0.51
00:28:55.000And then it turned out, oh, it pulled great.
00:28:57.000All of his stuff was pulling amazingly.
00:28:59.000I think they're going to get a similar awakening on Iran here.
00:29:02.000Do you remember, guys, when Donald Trump said, you know, well, I like people who don't get caught?
00:29:20.000They are going to get a rude awakening.
00:29:22.000And it's honestly unbelievable to me that, you know, what, pulling the Trump coalition now for 10 years, it's honestly unbelievable to me how few people still get it, still really understand.
00:29:45.000I don't want to throw names out there because I like some of these people, but some of the alternatives to JD Vance that we hear from the more pro war crowd, they're living in their own bubble.0.99
00:31:43.000Because people were upset about the war.
00:31:45.000Just to give everybody some, this is a very important stat, or it's not even really a stat, it's basic math that everyone needs to get through their heads now, which is why, by the way, Joshua and I wrote Burn It Down.
00:31:57.000You have a wing of this coalition that is very loud and has a lot of money.
00:32:32.000So, this idea we're somehow going to return to Bushism, and there's this whole faction that opposes JD Vance, and they're going to get an alternative nominated.
00:32:41.000I'm sorry, I'm just going to say it.0.99
00:32:42.000You're going to get a Ted Cruz or a Marco Rubio nominated over JD Vance, and then they somehow have a snowball's chance in hell of winning a national election is not only laughable to people who actually understand the numbers, it's not only ridiculous, and Democrats on the other side are just laughing hysterically at how stupid some people could possibly be.0.97
00:33:01.000But it's actually insulting at this point.0.63
00:33:03.000It's insulting to the voters that you would do this, that you would not see the A B comparison here.
00:33:09.000You couldn't win a national election to save your life, then you killed the party.
00:33:14.000Donald Trump came around and resurrected it like Lazarus, walks it out of the tomb, and makes it a national viable force.
00:33:22.000Go back and start another unpopular, stupid war in the Middle East and then trash everybody who represents the faction that's actually growing?1.00
00:33:31.000The neocon faction doesn't have a coalition.1.00
00:33:34.000If you go back, regress, and redo this stupidity again all over, you may not recover this time.0.98
00:33:42.000I think a lot of people in America have this false sense of security where you can keep making the same mistakes over and over again, but we're so strong we can weather them and we can take them, and there's not going to be any permanent or long term consequences for bad policy.0.98
00:33:56.000Well, you better wake up because every nation is susceptible to the laws of nature and nature's God, and every nation lives in the international system.
00:34:04.000And I'll just, you know, I say this to I said it to her.
00:34:13.000And again, I hope she's going to come on tomorrow and we'll talk about it.
00:34:16.000But if you care about peace in the Middle East, wouldn't you want to at least offer an olive branch to say, hey, Iran, if you act in good behavior, we will treat you as a sort of normalized country on some level?
00:34:30.000And by the way, if you want Israel to be safe, them not having a nuclear weapon seems like a pretty big concession.
00:34:37.000You know, and JD Vance has announced that they're going to be letting the UN inspectors back in, possibly even like this week or something.
00:35:18.000Guys, even the upper class is getting anxiety.
00:35:22.000I don't know if anybody saw that in the Wall Street Journal last week.
00:35:25.000Even the upper class now, and we have seen this in our polling, and now the Wall Street Journal picked it up, and they wrote a headline over it because they found it so interesting.
00:35:33.000You know, for many, many years, all of us, the three of us, Charlie, many, many other personalities, have been talking about the anxiety that the working class has felt in this country because their needs are not being met.
00:35:44.000And that working class base expanded for Trump beyond white working class people because they started to feel this.
00:35:50.000Now, even we're making, yeah, we're making, you know, we're seeing that climb the economic ladder, which is concerning.
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00:37:51.000Now, we have been talking about this a lot, and I just want to say why.
00:37:57.000Because, one, I believe that the teachers' unions.
00:37:59.000Are one of the, I would say, most malignant forces in our country, and they hate school choice.
00:38:06.000And if we're going to save this country, not just in 2026 and 2028, but if we're going to save it for generations, then our education system has to be saved first because that's where they're getting all their ideas.
00:38:21.000And we have a great guest who is one of the most outspoken, accomplished advocates for school choice in the country, and that's Jenny Clark.
00:38:30.000She's the founder and CEO of Love Your School.
00:38:32.000She's the chairman of azlovesaysays.com.
00:38:36.000And if you could put that URL up there, chairman of azlovesaysays.com.
00:38:50.000By the way, just so everybody's clear, she's not just running like the azlovesaysaysays.com is the main pack that's fighting the school, the anti school choice initiative from the teachers' unions here.
00:39:12.000I'm an Arizona native, I'm a mom of five.
00:39:14.000I've been involved in the school choice movement since 2018.
00:39:18.000When we first attempted to get universal empowerment scholarships here in Arizona, of course, we ended up getting those four years later in 2022.
00:39:28.000And now we have over 100,000 kids on the empowerment scholarship here in Arizona.
00:39:33.000And of course, 17 other states have joined Arizona.
00:39:56.000So that's why, you know, I was like, I want to hit this topic because we get a lot of emails from people in Arizona that are like, why aren't you talking about this bill or this?
00:40:05.000I don't even, you just give us the details.
00:40:57.000They dropped a Protect Education Act in January here in Arizona.
00:41:02.000The entire initiative is an attempt to roll back all school choice in Arizona, starting with Arizona's Empowerment Scholarship Account Program.
00:41:11.000So we saw right away that they gave $4 million, $4 million from these national special interest groups.
00:41:17.000They don't care about Arizona, they don't care about our kids.
00:41:20.000All they care about is having control.
00:41:23.000And their initiative, if they get the signatures, which are due July 2nd here in Arizona, would roll back the Arizona Empowerment Scholarship Account Program.
00:41:32.000It would go to the ballot then in November.
00:41:34.000Well, if they get the signatures, we're going to challenge them, of course, because they've just spent a bunch of money with random signature gatherers.
00:41:39.000And these people are buying from out of state, and they're going door to door, they're harassing people at malls.
00:41:57.000What they want to say, kind of the biggest thing in their initiative, is that if you are a family, a hardworking family, a high paying taxpayer, and your gross income, regardless of family size, is $150,000 or more, so that's like a hardworking firefighter and a nurse, you no longer have access to Arizona's empowerment scholarship.
00:42:19.000But what we say to that is, is there an income cap to go to an Arizona public school?
00:42:26.000All the time, and we have no problem with that because we all believe that education is a public good.
00:42:32.000But what they're saying is, oh no, if you're a hardworking taxpayer, your kids should have to go back to the public school system, and your child will no longer have access to this scholarship.
00:42:42.000I think that's appalling, I think that's absolutely appalling.
00:42:46.000So, let's just be clear national groups are coming into Arizona to try and get signatures to gut school choice in Arizona, which is the gold standard.
00:42:56.000And if you don't live in Arizona and you're in this audience right now, and you're like, why do I care?
00:45:50.000A yes on the Military Family Protection Act.
00:45:53.000If you're in Arizona, vote yes on the Military Family Protection Act because it's a, it actually kind of like, it stops the teachers' unions initiatives because it's a constitutional initiative.
00:46:08.000Yeah, I just want to, so we mentioned the teachers' unions as the foe here, but I want to remind everyone, big picture, why we're in this situation, why there's so much demand for these scholarships.
00:46:30.000We're gonna make them social distance.
00:46:31.000We're gonna make them sit in those weird pods during band practice.0.99
00:46:35.000And then on top of that, we had the LGBT insanity where they're gonna push trans lunacy in the classroom.0.99
00:46:43.000They might transition, they might socially transition your kid at school.0.99
00:46:48.000We had that guy, that lawyer in the LA school district where the teachers were fighting, the teachers union in LA was fighting so that they wouldn't have to be fired if they were negligent when your child got abused.
00:47:00.000They didn't have to be mandatory reporters for this sort of thing if they saw evidence of it, if they were being abused by a teacher in the school.
00:47:06.000These are the same lunatics that are pushing things like in California, the trans sanctuary state, so that if you have a student and they run away and they go to California, you can't necessarily get them back.
00:47:18.000If you happen to be a parent in California and your kid transitions, they don't have to tell you.0.93
00:47:24.000And by the way, if you are against that, then you could lose your child.
00:47:27.000This is like the mindset of these people.
00:47:29.000This is why this is so critical, mission critical.
00:47:31.000There's a line from the Jesuits, the Catholic order, because they ran a bunch of schools hundreds of years ago, and they said, if you give me the child to the age of Give me a boy to the age of six, and I will give you the man.
00:47:42.000And that's how the teachers' unions are.
00:47:44.000They know they can control what your child is learning in the first grade, second grade.
00:47:51.000And then they're coming out and they hate everything you care about because the people they're with more often than you are radically against everything you believe in.
00:48:54.000When we look at the NAPE scores, the nation's report card, 26% or less of students are reading proficiently at grade level at fourth grade when they're tested.
00:49:05.000As I said before, that's a national security crisis.
00:49:08.000So many of these families, they come from all backgrounds, all political spectrums, all socioeconomic status.
00:49:15.000They're just trying to do what's best for their kids.
00:49:18.000And sometimes that's the public school.
00:49:20.000Other times that's home education, micro schools, private schools, all these exciting new things that we have in Arizona and that are now blossoming across the country.
00:49:29.000Families in states with ESA type programs now finally have access to do what's best for their kids.
00:49:36.000I think it's one of the greatest policy wins that we have seen in the United States in over two decades.
00:49:53.000Tell us about that and what you learned.
00:49:54.000Again, I want to nationalize this for the audience.
00:49:57.000So, the local instruction is vote yes on what is that?
00:50:00.000The Military Family Protection Act, if you're here in Arizona.
00:50:04.000And then don't give your signature to the bad guys.
00:50:06.000And then, obviously, vote for Andy Biggs.
00:50:08.000So, if you're in Arizona, but nationally, what did you learn when you went and sat with the president and the team about school choice?
00:50:16.000The priority that this admin is Putting on.
00:50:18.000Obviously, we had the one big beautiful bill that had school choice in it.
00:50:22.000I'll talk a little bit about that too.
00:50:24.000Yeah, so about a year ago, I had just the amazing opportunity to have lunch with the president and some senators and governors from states that either have school choice programs or that are pushing school choice programs.
00:50:36.000Obviously, the Donald's family, Byron and Erica were there, all of these amazing leaders across the country.
00:50:42.000And everyone agreed, including our president, that school choice is one of the most important issues for our country.
00:50:49.000You talk about American reindustrialization, you talk about national security.
00:50:53.000Any issue, school choice touches those issues.
00:50:56.000So at the time, the one big beautiful bill had not yet passed, and we were all brainstorming what will it look like?
00:51:37.000To state ESA programs that President Trump and other leaders delivered for us.
00:51:41.000It's just, it's such a great example because it really just gets at how much they despise you.
00:51:46.000It's essentially, we will turn down free money for parents to choose how to educate their child as they wish, and we're just going to spitefully reject it.
00:51:59.000It just, you think about it, you lay it out.
00:52:02.000Do you want to have thousands of dollars for educating your child, and do you want it to be how the parent wants to use it, or do you want it to be how a Cancerous, parasitic blob that hates you and everything you believe in wants to use it.0.74
00:52:15.000Well, this is what the commies want.0.72
00:52:16.000The commies want the school system to look like a communist grocery store where everything is the same brand.
00:52:22.000There's no options, there's no choice.
00:52:24.000What we want is we want it to be the choice is yours.
00:52:27.000You get to pick which brand, what ingredients, whatever.
00:53:23.000And TikTok has always strived to build the kind of place that thrives on respectful connection, where curiosity fuels connection and we can share what's on our minds and learn from each other.
00:53:33.000When ideas meet respect, good things happen.
00:53:35.000On TikTok, you can find a mechanic explaining the why behind a problem most of us wouldn't even know how to name, or a father sharing a lifetime of knowledge with his viewers, viewers who listen, discuss, and then they respond.
00:53:46.000TikTok turns connection into community.
00:53:50.000You can feel it in the comments and the thank you from a stranger halfway across the world.
00:53:55.000TikTok is a place where respect opens the door for discussion, and discussion helps us build something real.
00:54:01.000All right, Steve Dace, host of The Steve Dace Show, and hold on, I want to get the book, author of Why Independence Day, which is really important given that we just went through the Juneteenth stuff.
00:54:13.000Anyways, Steve, welcome back to the show, my friend.
00:54:18.000All right, so Steve, this conversation is born out of a group chat.
00:54:22.000That we were having a text message chain, and we're talking, we're kind of theorizing that in some ways that, you know, this outcome could be very ideal, right?
00:54:34.000Because let's talk about the alternatives, right?
00:54:37.000And you are a guy, admittedly, you're a Gen Xer.1.00
00:54:40.000You were like, hey, I want, there's a part of you that really wants to bomb the hell out of the, you know, Iranians, at least the regime, right?0.99
00:54:47.000There's an instinct baked into you that is sort of like that.0.97
00:54:51.000And yet you're looking at this deal and you're like, hey, actually, this is.
00:55:13.000And so, you know, we're always going to reach this standstill.
00:55:17.000When we talked about this as it was kind of the drumbeats were leading into it, and I told you guys back then earlier this winter, I'm not for this.0.51
00:55:24.000I detest the Iranian regime, but we're going to come to a juncture where there's not really a way out.
00:56:35.000I'm not even sure amongst themselves that all the Sunni Arab countries, well, yeah, we want an LCC or Erdogan, but we want our Erdogan.0.58
00:57:16.000So Trump has taken his belt off and spanked the Iranian regime harder than any American president ever has.0.96
00:57:23.000So already, guys, this is different than any other attempt to deal with the Iranians.
00:57:27.000They've never faced this level of corporal punishment from an American president before, who is willing, by virtue of what he's done before, I think, demonstrated that he'll do it again.0.99
00:57:37.000If they get out of line, at some point we have to face the reality of where we are domestically and come home and solve our own issues.
00:57:45.000The context is completely different than the JCPOA.
00:57:48.000The JCPOA was a weak leadership on the U.S. side that was begging and pleading and bribing so that they didn't have to do military conflict.0.85
00:57:58.000And the Iranians read that like a book.1.00
00:58:00.000They knew exactly the stakes and that they could play them like the suckers that they were.0.98
00:58:04.000This is completely different because President Trump.0.95
00:59:06.000You got to, you know, and the fact that they're even getting creative about unfrozen assets being used to buy American produce to feed Iranian people as opposed to fund terror, these are good ideas.0.60
01:00:10.000And he's kind of just focused on that.0.92
01:00:12.000I think some people, and many of them are friends of mine and people that I agree with and broadly stand up with them against the anti Semitism infesting our ranks.0.59
01:00:20.000But by kind of starting to try and have a shadow primary of 28 right now, like this weekend, they took this clip of Rubio from February.
01:00:29.000And they tried to resurrect it like he just said this last week in the midst of the Iranian negotiations.
01:00:33.000I think that they're labeling Rubio like he's Israel first.
01:00:37.000Like that's the only reason you'd vote for Rubio over Vance in 28 is that he would cause more carnage in the Middle East than JD Vance would.
01:00:45.000And that's exactly how you won't get Marco Rubio, 28.
01:00:48.000Not to mention, I don't know that King Trump will appreciate the fact that you think you're going to get him to nominate somebody for president who you think actually doesn't support even the very foreign policy that as Secretary of State he's charged with carrying out.
01:01:00.000The whole thing makes no sense at all.
01:01:03.000The other thing that doesn't make any sense to me at all is what these folks want us to do instead.
01:01:42.000And I love the monarchical language here about it because it comes up so often.
01:01:47.000We saw where there was that quote that went viral a few days ago where allegedly they asked President Trump, Are they going to remove the gold that you've kind of added around the White House?
01:01:58.000And supposedly he said, There's no proof, but supposedly he said, Well, Cubans love gold.
01:02:02.000And so they're hanging on, Oh, what did the king say that could hint at his intentions?
01:02:09.000There's been a lot of attacks on JD Vance for where he's been making the sell on the peace deal or the fact that he's doing it at all.
01:02:17.000And the blunt truth is, he's the vice president who is selling a policy that the president chose.
01:02:23.000And they so collectively decide to ignore this, act as though JD Vance on this one issue is the president and President Trump himself is out of the picture just so that they can attack him more.
01:02:34.000The whole thing has a very strange aspect to it, as though, yeah, like you said, President Trump is this.
01:02:40.000Constitutional monarch controlled by his different advisors.
01:02:42.000And if there's one thing we know about Trump, it's that he really does march to his own beat and he's not controlled by anyone.
01:02:49.000And I like what you said, Steve, because a lot of the people that seem to oppose this deal are people that we stand shoulder to shoulder with when it comes to, you know, fighting anti Semitism, right?
01:02:59.000And so it kind of is, guys like us, we're in this like in between space sometimes where it's like, no, listen, we want peace.
01:03:06.000We don't, you know, death to neocons, okay?
01:03:54.000And I've actually got some good faith answers that I want to go through and I want to talk about that because none of the alternatives make any sense to me either.
01:04:13.000What would likely American casualties be?
01:04:15.000So, I just asked a bunch of questions Would it fall into a deadly civil war and sectarian mess?1.00
01:04:20.000How many migrants would the West be forced to absorb?
01:04:22.000And they say it's a fake choice that I'm gaslighting.
01:04:26.000David Harsani says these aren't the choices, not even close.
01:04:29.000But even if we wanted to disengage from the war, we could leave it status quo, which would be better than a deal, not only not enriching and propping up the regime, but restraining Israel and Gulf states from fighting.
01:04:41.000So basically, everybody in the comments disagrees with me that I'm presenting a false choice.0.64
01:04:45.000I think it is worth saying that there's a degree of false choice in that if we launch refugees, we don't have to, if we created a crisis, we would not have to let refugees.
01:05:23.000The fact that every argument for the deal goes straight to regime change and boots on the ground when that's not what people like me are arguing for is the most.
01:07:03.000I mean, we can mow the lawn over there as many times as we need to in the dead of night.
01:07:06.000I'm all for it, and that regime absolutely deserves it.
01:07:10.000And notice that we didn't do nearly the carpet bombing to our own domestic political capital and our own domestic economy when we did that last June compared to what this has done.
01:07:21.000We're either going to bomb them some more and continue to carpet bomb ourselves domestically and put our entire country on the line in these midterms over whatever we're trying to accomplish with this regime, which is not a regime change.
01:07:34.000But even though that's really what everybody that's complaining wants.
01:07:37.000And, or we come home and we start bombing our own domestic political situation.
01:07:43.000You know, I've used this analogy on my show, guys.
01:07:45.000I get a chance, thanks to organizations like TPUSA, to get to speak all over the country quite frequently.
01:07:51.000Every time I'm on a plane, right, they give you this little rejoinder at the beginning, you know, in the unlikely event that the plane may, you know, suffer something catastrophic or go down, right, and your oxygen mask drops.
01:08:02.000What's the first thing they always tell you about your oxygen mask?
01:08:07.000Put yours on first, because if yours is on, you are not in a position to help out anybody else who can't get theirs, right?
01:08:13.000We have to put our own oxygen mask on.
01:08:15.000Our way of life by a centimeter from Trump's brain nearly died in this last election.1.00
01:08:22.000I want everybody to stop and think about all the gay retardation you'd be watching right now for America 250 if that bullet is a centimeter closer to Trump's brain two summers ago in Butler, Pennsylvania.1.00
01:08:33.000We have to solve our issues at home.1.00
01:08:36.000And if we don't solve them here at home, we can't stand for any allies, let alone on our own.
01:08:41.000We have to, at some point, expend our capital here at home.
01:08:50.000Where you can see the bullet going by President Trump's head, and one inch it says civil war, and the other says an entire summer spent arguing about the White House reflecting pool.0.63
01:09:15.000We're a divided country, and one of the ways you heal that patriotism is you make it clear your government.
01:09:21.000Is focused on the home front, improving the home front, is not embarking on far off adventures that we can't afford because that divides your country.
01:09:30.000Well, and this is this, this two polling graphs here from CBS.
01:09:35.000I've been thinking about it all morning.
01:09:54.000I just want to make the point that yes, we do not want Iran to have a nuclear weapon.
01:10:00.000President Trump has made that extraordinarily clear.0.72
01:10:03.000And yet, the American people are so uninterested in that question that they still think that they're going to pursue a nuclear weapon and they still want us to get out.
01:10:14.000That is the way that a constitutional republic works with a representative democracy.
01:11:05.000We have to address our immediate concerns.
01:11:09.000And we are at an existential cliff as a country.0.98
01:11:12.000We cannot afford to continue expending our political capital in Iran.0.98
01:11:16.000And the alternative is, well, we need a better deal that they also then say Iran won't keep unless we keep threatening them militarily.0.89
01:11:23.000At some point, we have to come home and start threatening Democrats politically.0.77