The Charlie Kirk Show - Pop Culture Panel: Harrison Butker, Justin and Hailey Bieber, and an Age-Gap Rom-Com

00:00:00.000 All right, everybody.

00:00:01.000 Back by popular demand is our pop culture power hour. 0.66

00:00:06.000 We have Daisy Phelps, one of our producers on the show.

00:00:08.000 We have Morgan McMichael, one of our TPUSA contributors, and Joe Bob, the man that only needs one name, also a Turning Point USA contributor.

00:00:18.000 We talk about the Harrison Bucker controversy.

00:00:21.000 It's one of the biggest stories in the country, defending Catholic values and defending traditional values for motherhood and being a wife.

00:00:29.000 It's caused a stir.

00:00:30.000 NFL's even chimed in.

00:00:32.000 We also cover Haley and Justin Bieber having their first kid.

00:00:35.000 What does that mean for Gen Z and pop culture?

00:00:38.000 And we talk about a brand new movie, a romantic comedy starring Ann Hathaway called The Idea of You, 50 million viewers with a 40-year-old woman dating a 24-year-old boy bander.

00:00:52.000 Quite the story.

00:00:53.000 This is a fun conversation.

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00:00:59.000 Here we go.

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00:03:19.000 Back by popular demand, this is the pop culture power hour.

00:03:24.000 I'm going to be welcoming my esteemed panel.

00:03:28.000 Now, we have Morgan McMichael, TPUSA contributor.

00:03:32.000 Joe Bob, Joe Bob, your last name is never going to be something that I get easily here.

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00:03:44.000 Joe Bob Taleffi, TPUSA contributor.

00:03:46.000 And Daisy Phelps, she's one of the producers on this show.

00:03:49.000 Also, our resident pop culture expert and Swifty.

00:03:52.000 Welcome to the show, to the panel.

00:03:54.000 Joe Bob's not smiling.

00:03:56.000 He's upset.

00:03:57.000 I got his last name wrong.

00:03:59.000 You said esteemed panel.

00:04:00.000 And if I'm on the panel, I don't know if esteemed is the correct determining word for what we should use.

00:04:06.000 Well, you've got one hour here to redeem yourself, Joe Bob, in the eyes of our esteemed audience.

00:04:12.000 I will tell you that.

00:04:13.000 All right.

00:04:13.000 So we've got a couple of really, really big topics to get to.

00:04:18.000 And I was going to get to this in hour one.

00:04:20.000 I did not because of how esteemed this panel was.

00:04:24.000 This is the, I mean, this story went mega viral yesterday.

00:04:29.000 And that's about the Kansas City Chiefs kicker, Harrison Butker.

00:04:33.000 I think I got his name right, although I feel tempted to say it wrong.

00:04:38.000 I mean, maybe Daisy should give the backstory here, but let me just try.

00:04:41.000 He gives a commencement speech at a Catholic university, basically saying things that Catholics have believed for years, and the world's losing its mind.

00:04:52.000 The world has lost its utter loving mind.

00:04:55.000 I'm throwing it to the panel.

00:04:56.000 You guys know this.

00:04:58.000 We got the clips.

00:04:58.000 We can play them.

00:05:00.000 Set the stage before we go to clip number one here.

00:05:03.000 Yeah, so I think we have all the clips loaded of his speech.

00:05:07.000 It was only about a 20-minute speech, and it's really just making everyone so upset. 0.81

00:05:12.000 I think the part that's making people the most upset was that there were a lot of women graduating.

00:05:16.000 And in his speech, he does say before he gets into what everyone's mad about, he says, a lot of you will go on to get promotions and have careers and do great things.

00:05:24.000 But I think he says, I would venture to guess most of you are looking forward to having a family and getting married.

00:05:31.000 And then he says that his wife would say that her life really started when she got married and had a family.

00:05:37.000 And there's, I think there's women in the audience that have spoken out.

00:05:40.000 I mean, he did get a standing ovation.

00:05:42.000 And even I think Whoopi Goldberg said something along the lines of like he was somewhere where everyone believes what he believes and he said what he believes.

00:05:49.000 And we have to be okay with that, which is kind of crazy that Whoopi Goldberg is even remotely attempting to defend him.

00:05:55.000 Obviously, she says she doesn't believe in any of it, but she does mention that he has the ability to say what he wants to say.

00:06:01.000 People just are really not liking it.

00:06:04.000 All right, Morgan, you're the other lady on the panel.

00:06:08.000 I'm going to play the clip after this, but are you just sitting here just steaming?

00:06:12.000 Are you so offended at this Kansas City Chiefs?

00:06:15.000 Absolutely not offended at all.

00:06:17.000 And I think this is the problem with the societal hypocrisy when it comes to the feminist movement: that so many women in our generation and even millennials have become so used to the idea of I'm going to climb the corporate ladder and everything is going to be self-idolization instead of actually wanting to have a family because no lies were said in his entire speech.

00:06:38.000 And it's weird that I actually do agree with Whoopi Goldberg in the statement that these things should be said.

00:06:42.000 He was at a Catholic college.

00:06:44.000 I think it would be a different story if he was at UCLA and where there's a lot of feminists and they would be very more upset about what he was saying.

00:06:51.000 But no, we have a societal problem and a societal gap when there's a large amount of women that are canceling Harrison Butker and signing petitions saying he should be removed from the NFL.

00:07:01.000 And I think there's a huge gap when the NFL is uplifting many players who have DUIs.

00:07:05.000 There are players that are involved with domestic abuse, that have multiple baby mamas.

00:07:09.000 But then one player who speaks out about conservative Christian ideals and values of prioritizing family and encouraging masculinity is a problem.

00:07:19.000 Yeah, you make a great point, Morgan.

00:07:21.000 So this is on average, almost 50 NFL players are arrested every year since 2000.

00:07:29.000 The Kansas City Chiefs have supplied 41 of those players that got arrested.

00:07:35.000 And that's tied for fourth in the league.

00:07:36.000 It's not even the number one team.

00:07:40.000 So this is since 2000.

00:07:41.000 That's 129 cases of domestic violence, 120 assault or battery cases, and a handful of like murder and homicide cases.

00:07:50.000 There's zero outrage for any of those, but no, Harrison Butker is the man on the hot seat.

00:07:56.000 So, without further ado, I'm going to play.

00:07:59.000 There's two clips here that are really, I think, the core of what people have gotten up in a tizzy about.

00:08:04.000 Let's play 103.

00:08:06.000 For the ladies present today, congratulations on an amazing accomplishment.

00:08:11.000 You should be proud of all that you have achieved to this point in your young lives.

00:08:15.000 I want to speak directly to you briefly because I think it is you, the women, who have had the most diabolical lies told to you.

00:08:22.000 How many of you are sitting here now, about to cross this stage, and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career?

00:08:30.000 Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world.

00:08:40.000 All right.

00:08:41.000 So, I mean, that was just part one.

00:08:43.000 So, he said, He said, You are, a lot of you are going to do great things in your careers, but a lot, I bet you're more excited about having a family.

00:08:51.000 Nothing would have even registered on my Richter scale.

00:08:53.000 But let's keep going.

00:08:54.000 This is a little bit longer, and then we'll get your guys' reaction.

00:08:57.000 104.

00:08:59.000 I can tell you that my beautiful wife Isabel would be the first to say that her life truly started when she began living her vocation as a wife and as a mother.

00:09:08.000 I'm on this stage today and able to be the man I am because I have a wife who leans into her vocation.

00:09:16.000 I'm beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in being class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all: homemaker.

00:09:57.000 That's that, I mean, I'm offended.

00:10:00.000 Joe Bob, I bet you are just sitting here just ticked off, you know, beyond get out.

00:10:06.000 So, Job, I can see it on your face right now.

00:10:09.000 Your reaction.

00:10:11.000 Well, my first thought when hearing this and then seeing all of the outrage about it is: since when did we diminish the value of doing the one thing that society is supposed to do?

00:10:25.000 If you boil everything down in culture and society to why are we here, you get to, well, to perpetuate the species, to have kids and continue humanity as a whole.

00:10:38.000 And if that is the one singular goal, what then is the most important thing?

00:10:44.000 Being a mother and raising kids.

00:10:47.000 And so, I don't understand the idea of, well, you're diminishing. 0.58

00:10:51.000 What do you mean, diminishing the value of women?

00:10:54.000 We're here openly saying women are the most valuable thing, and raising kids and broadening the spectrum of humanity as a whole is the most important thing.

00:11:04.000 So, to have any backlash is, yes, it's ridiculous, but it's also just, it doesn't make any sense when you look at the grand scheme of why we're here.

00:11:15.000 And I know that's a little philosophical for the moment, but just as a whole, since when did we diminish the value of motherhood to the point where it's a bad thing to be called?

00:11:25.000 I'll tell you, my wife is like, Yeah, like I'm a mom.

00:11:28.000 That's what I am, first and foremost.

00:11:31.000 And nothing that he said in that speech would offend her at all.

00:11:35.000 If anything, she'd be proud of it.

00:11:38.000 Well, I completely agree.

00:11:39.000 I mean, Job, but the reactions would say differently, right?

00:11:44.000 I mean, let's go ahead and show image 127.

00:11:49.000 This is Kara R. Harrison Butker, every time a woman learns how to read. 0.98

00:11:55.000 128.

00:11:56.000 So, Colin Kaepernick gets blacklisted from the NFL for advocating for black lives, but Harrison Butker can give a misogynistic, homophobic, transphobic speech without a peep from the NFL.

00:12:07.000 And I'm supposed to believe that's conservative, conservatives that are getting canceled.

00:12:11.000 GTFOH.

00:12:14.000 But this tweet's wrong because the NFL has reacted.

00:12:17.000 They have given a statement on it.

00:12:18.000 This has gotten so big, the NFL felt like they had to break their silence and come out against Harrison Butker and distance themselves from this guy.

00:12:26.000 I mean, this is getting out of hand.

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00:14:24.000 So, Daisy, we just mentioned that the NFL actually did comment.

00:14:30.000 What did they say?

00:14:31.000 And, you know, who's saying it?

00:14:33.000 I think we have it.

00:14:35.000 I think it's 121 if we want to put it up.

00:14:38.000 But basically, they said that he gave this speech in his personal capacity.

00:14:41.000 It has nothing to do with the NFL.

00:14:43.000 And his views are not reflective of the NFL's views, which I think goes for, I mean, any.

00:14:48.000 I don't even know why the NFL had to speak on it because they're in their offseason.

00:14:52.000 They're NFL players that are legitimately murdering people in their offseason.

00:14:56.000 So they don't have to make a statement on that, but they will make a statement on Harrison Butker, legitimately in tears, crying that his wife is so important to him.

00:15:04.000 Well, and by the way, and Morgan, this was the NFL.

00:15:08.000 This is Jonathan Bean.

00:15:10.000 Harrison Butker gave a speech in his personal capacity.

00:15:15.000 Jonathan Bean, this NFL senior vice president and chief diversity and inclusion officer, tells this was People magazine, his written statement.

00:15:24.000 His views are not those of the NFL as an organization.

00:15:26.000 The NFL is steadfast in our commitment to inclusion, which only makes our league stronger.

00:15:32.000 So not only do you have the NFL basically distancing itself from pro-women messaging, but now you've got the chief DEI officer as their spokesperson.

00:15:42.000 Your reaction.

00:15:43.000 I mean, of course, they're going to want to promote and push diversity, equity, and inclusion, and whatever is the next new thing to their players and their audiences.

00:15:50.000 Because look at how many millions of people are watching NFL sports games throughout the year.

00:15:54.000 So, they're going to want to push an agenda.

00:15:56.000 And I definitely think that a lot of the backlash was instigated.

00:16:00.000 I mean, there was a lot of drama with Travis Kelsey who hasn't said anything, and he's been in the news lately.

00:16:05.000 But I have a question for all of the feminists who are anti-Butker's speech: what legacy are you planning to leave on earth if it is not raising a future generation? 0.85

00:16:16.000 What was your intention of being here on earth if it's not to create children?

00:16:21.000 And I honestly think that women who are going against Butker and women who say they don't want to have children and the feminists are being selfish because they're serving themselves instead of serving God, instead of serving our husbands, serving their children, and leaving something on this earth other than just serving themselves.

00:16:37.000 Yeah, I think that's well said, Morgan.

00:16:39.000 I really do.

00:16:40.000 But I, you know, I do find it fascinating, Joe Bob, that there is-I mean, he touched on like IVF and abortion.

00:16:48.000 I think he even went after Joe Biden.

00:16:50.000 The piece of this that is making the most hay, that is the most controversial, seems to be this piece about the women: that women are that the feminists are going crazy.

00:17:01.000 The same people that can't tell you what a woman is are really upset that he's talking about women, Joe Bob.

00:17:06.000 That's a good point.

00:17:07.000 Maybe he should have opened up the speech with, as a trans woman, I had to get those right in my head to see how much he could make them angry.

00:17:15.000 But here's the thing that I think is actually pretty interesting about this.

00:17:19.000 And the thing that I like about the radical left being exposed, because as we've kind of discussed on this whole thing, nothing that he said was so outlandish that the average person wouldn't agree with it.

00:17:33.000 And dare I break a Charlie Kirk show rule to the delight of probably Daisy and Morgan.

00:17:40.000 But there are other people that are watching this: Travis Kelsey, Taylor Swift, Jason Kelsey, his wife, Kylie Kelsey, who probably are seeing all of the backlash and thinking, well, what did he say?

00:17:52.000 And then they'll go and watch it and go, well, that sounds pretty reasonable.

00:17:56.000 And so the broader point here, I think, is that, yes, it is a win for conservatives in the fact that, like, yeah, being a normal person is okay and good, but also to the people that we generally don't reach, this guy is intertwined with a lot of the people that are making headlines.

00:18:16.000 Like Morgan was saying, the Travis Kelsey of the world, the Patrick Mahomes of the world, he's on their team.

00:18:21.000 He's in their locker room.

00:18:22.000 He is their friend.

00:18:23.000 I guarantee you, they're going to look into this for themselves.

00:18:27.000 And what I would hope is that they come away with it that the rest of us come away with is, yeah, that's pretty reasonable, and I would probably agree.

00:18:34.000 So hopefully, this makes bigger splashes and bigger waves across the scope than even just that we're seeing now.

00:18:43.000 Hopefully, people start to realize: oh, yeah, the conservative ideals in life are not crazy and radical.

00:18:51.000 They're actually more normal. 0.99

00:18:53.000 And the radical lefties that are getting so infuriated over this, those people are nuts. 0.97

00:18:59.000 Yeah, no, I think that's a great point, Joe Bob. 0.97

00:19:02.000 I think that this is like a jump the shark moment for the radical feminazis on the left.

00:19:07.000 You listen to this speech.

00:19:09.000 He's a Catholic, speaking at a Catholic school, like a real Catholic school, not a Catholic school in name only, defending Catholic doctrine and basic, but also just kind of being like a normal person, and they are losing their mind.

00:19:24.000 And go ahead and throw up 148.

00:19:27.000 There's even a petition that now is around 120,000 signatures demanding that the Chiefs dismiss Harrison Butger from the Chiefs.

00:19:36.000 I mean, this is getting like patently insane.

00:19:40.000 And if you're a normal person, you just look at this and you go, it's not his fault. 0.81

00:19:44.000 It's like the problem's not with him, it's with these crazies that are after him.

00:19:48.000 I want to take a moment for you guys to introduce yourselves to our audience.

00:19:53.000 Joe Bob, let's start with you.

00:19:54.000 Tell us about yourself and where do people follow you?

00:19:58.000 My name is Joe Bob.

00:19:59.000 Legally on my birth certificate, one grandpa was jailed, the other one was Bob.

00:20:02.000 My parents couldn't figure out which one to name me after, so that's how I have a Hillbilly, Alabama Backwoods name on a brown guy.

00:20:07.000 Simple enough, just type in J-O-B-O-B pretty much anywhere.

00:20:10.000 I'm a comedian by trade, and I was telling Charlie the other day that, you know, as much as the woke stuff is annoying, it does really give me a lot of material to work with.

00:20:20.000 And then he said, you'll be employed forever.

00:20:23.000 So that's what I'm doing.

00:20:24.000 I appreciate you having me.

00:20:26.000 Yeah, awesome.

00:20:28.000 Morgan, also known as Morgan.

00:20:30.000 Also known as Morgan.

00:20:31.000 Thank you, Andrew.

00:20:32.000 Thank you, Andrew, for that.

00:20:33.000 Hello, I'm Morgan.

00:20:35.000 I am our Gen Z culture and political commentator at Turning Point USA.

00:20:40.000 And kind of like Joe Bob, if you can spell my first name, you can find me any social media platform, M-O-R-G-O-N-N.

00:20:47.000 And yes, that is also my legal name, which is why everyone here at HQ calls me Morgan.

00:20:55.000 Morgan.

00:20:56.000 Daisy, let the audience know about Daisy.

00:20:58.000 You grew a lot of people.

00:21:00.000 I'm not a comedian.

00:21:01.000 I'm not a commentator.

00:21:02.000 I'm not an influencer.

00:21:04.000 I'm just Daisy.

00:21:05.000 Or a Swifty. 0.77

00:21:06.000 I am a Swifty.

00:21:07.000 You can find me on all social media platforms at either Charlie Kirk1776 or Charlie Kirk11.

00:21:14.000 Basically, type in Charlie Kirk, and I'll be on some sort of back end posting something, writing something.

00:21:21.000 So, yeah, not really front-facing as Daisy, but you can find me on Charlie's social media.

00:21:28.000 Well, that's why we had to get her on the show today.

00:21:30.000 All right.

00:21:30.000 And by the way, if you want to, if you're in the audience and you are of a certain age and you're wondering about Gen Z dating and what it's like, Morgan, for this segment, I was scrolling through your Twitter and all of your like, I mean, I just love how raw and honest you are about what it's like out there.

00:21:49.000 I think you give a really interesting window into what it would be like to be, you know, 20-something, early 20s, and trying to like date, be a feminine woman, be more traditional values.

00:22:00.000 It's a really good follow, so check her out as well.

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00:23:16.000 Okay, so next topic here.

00:23:19.000 By the way, we could go on the Harrison Butker thing for a long time, but I do want to get to this next story. 1.00

00:23:24.000 Daisy, take it away.

00:23:26.000 This is very much a you thing.

00:23:28.000 Yes, so I think that this kind of goes hand in hand with the Harrison Butker thing because in the same week that everyone is freaking out about Harrison Butker talking about how important it is to have a family and be a wife and be a mom,

00:23:43.000 We also get Justin Bieber and Haley Bieber announcing that they are having a baby and everyone is so ecstatic and there's there's a lot of nuance that go into, I think, like Hollywood Christianity, because Justin and Haley are very outspoken believers, but they got married in 2018, so they've been married for that's six years which, for Hollywood, is a pretty long time.

00:24:04.000 I think she was 21 when they got married.

00:24:07.000 He was 24 and they, like they've said that they didn't want to live together before they got married and they have been openly talking about how much they want to have a family and they're, I think, an example in Hollywood of still a very woke couple.

00:24:24.000 I think we can all admit that.

00:24:26.000 But they openly talk about religion, they openly talk about wanting to have a family and everyone is celebrating this.

00:24:30.000 I think it's amazing.

00:24:31.000 I think that they're going to have such a beautiful child and I'm really excited for them, along with everyone else.

00:24:36.000 But I also agree with Harrison Butker, so I think there's a pretty seamless transition there as to how everyone can be so upset.

00:24:44.000 But also yeah, I think, I think, I think it's worth playing this old clip, uh 139.

00:24:50.000 This is him on Ellen's show, Justin Bieber on Ellen's Show saying that he wanted a tribe, which is, I think, great good for him.

00:24:57.000 139, how many kids are you gonna have and when?

00:25:00.000 I'm going to have as many as Haley is wishing to push out? 0.96

00:25:04.000 I'd love to have myself a little tribe, but yeah, it's her body and whatever she wants to do, does she want a lot? 1.00

00:25:12.000 She wants I think she wants to have a few. 0.97

00:25:15.000 What are y'all waiting for what's?

00:25:16.000 You know you love kids.

00:25:17.000 You, you're so good with kids.

00:25:19.000 Thank you for saying that.

00:25:20.000 What's the holdup?

00:25:21.000 I think the issue? 0.96

00:25:22.000 There's not really an issue, but I think Haley still has some things she wants to accomplish as a woman and I think she just wants to. 0.93

00:25:34.000 Yeah, I think she just is not ready yet.

00:25:36.000 I think that's okay. 1.00

00:25:38.000 Well, apparently now she is ready because she's pregnant. 0.96

00:25:41.000 Morgan, what do you think, as you're the Gen Z, you know expert here you and Daisy actually is this?

00:25:49.000 Is this a positive thing for culture?

00:25:51.000 To see somebody like Justin Bieber and Haley Bieber having kids they're pregnant now wanting to have a tribe?

00:25:57.000 Is, I mean, does this counter some of the negativity we see elsewhere?

00:26:01.000 Absolutely, I think this is a very positive thing.

00:26:03.000 I think, the more that we start to see a lot of the celebrities that you know me and Daisy kind of grew up with start to get married and have children.

00:26:10.000 It's going to encourage other Gen Zers in that counterculture side to also get married and have kids.

00:26:16.000 We've also seen Indications that the marriage rates have been increasing and the divorce rates have been decreasing.

00:26:22.000 It is still a very slim, you know, improvement, but an improvement is an improvement.

00:26:27.000 And I think that this can be an entirely big shift within our generation to continue to get married and have children.

00:26:34.000 And the more that we see celebrities embracing motherhood and staying married, that's just going to then have a lasting impact on our generation.

00:26:41.000 So absolutely, I want to see more Gen Zers look up to celebrities in this way and be like, you know what?

00:26:46.000 Maybe I do want to get married.

00:26:48.000 Maybe I do want to have children and have a spouse.

00:26:50.000 I really think that that's what we're seeing.

00:26:52.000 I mean, you said celebrities that you and I grew up watching.

00:26:54.000 Vanessa Hudgens just got married.

00:26:56.000 She's having a baby.

00:26:57.000 I think Hilary Duff just had her third or fourth child.

00:27:00.000 And also, like, the Sophia Ritchie wedding was a huge topic this past year.

00:27:04.000 She converted to Judaism, and her and her husband are both super religious and they're having their first baby.

00:27:09.000 And she also, a reason it was a big cultural phenomenon was because she's very, very modest.

00:27:14.000 And everyone started dressing that way after her wedding happened and people were obsessed with her. 0.85

00:27:18.000 Like Kylie Jenner started dressing a lot more modestly.

00:27:21.000 Everyone was kind of leaning into the trad wife, which is becoming a huge trend on TikTok.

00:27:26.000 And I know era has entered.

00:27:28.000 Yes.

00:27:29.000 Morgan and I are both making sourdough bread on our sourdough journeys.

00:27:33.000 I think people are starting to really enjoy becoming homemakers and that's becoming more of a trend.

00:27:39.000 But then when a religious white guy says it, everyone immediately hates it.

00:27:43.000 Right.

00:27:43.000 It's only okay when the women say, Hey, I actually do want to be at home.

00:27:47.000 I do want to be a mother.

00:27:48.000 Then it's okay to encourage that.

00:27:50.000 And I think the Sophia Ritchie era and talking about fashion, a lot of the fast fashion now has been on the decrease in embracing more modesty, more timeless, classic looks has been the influencer culture, which has then, I think, propelled even into dating because women are tired of hookup culture and they're wanting to embrace something that's longer lasting.

00:28:08.000 And I think an important thing to bring up on the Justin and Haley topic, which Live Action said a lot of talking about this too, Justin Bieber's mom was very open about the fact, I think she got pregnant when she was a teenager.

00:28:19.000 And she has said she was really encouraged to get an abortion and she knew that she couldn't.

00:28:23.000 She knew that was not the choice that she wanted to make.

00:28:26.000 And everyone talks about what an amazing story it is that she didn't have an abortion and now the culture has Justin Bieber, who is has made so much music and has so many fans and is so beloved.

00:28:37.000 And then he talks about how important it is for him to have a family.

00:28:40.000 Obviously, there's the very Hollywood woke language in all of his statements, like it's Haley's choice, Haley's body, however many babies she wants to have.

00:28:48.000 But I do think that that is closer to what we want to see.

00:28:52.000 Joe Bob, you have a tribe.

00:28:56.000 What's your reaction?

00:28:57.000 Yeah.

00:28:58.000 Small little one.

00:28:59.000 And I'm super excited about it.

00:29:00.000 Now, one thing I'm thinking about here, especially given kind of this cultural shift that Morgan and Daisy have been talking about, is one, I agree with it.

00:29:09.000 And two, this is where I kind of, I don't know if I necessarily butt heads, but I'm super optimistic about the conservative push into the mainstream culture.

00:29:18.000 And sometimes, you know, people on the conservative side of the aisle disagree with my optimism here.

00:29:23.000 But I also think, and also too, I'm not sure how much I should talk about this publicly because I think a lot of it goes on behind the scenes, but we have the ability to go and snag some of these massive cultural figures using our, you know, kind of just tentacles into their lives.

00:29:40.000 Remember, Haley Bieber's dad was a big time Trump supporter.

00:29:44.000 And you don't think that they had any conversations in the family like outside of the public eye?

00:29:50.000 Not necessarily about Trump, but probably conservative values.

00:29:54.000 If you remember Bruce Jenner or Caitlin Jenner, whatever, despite the whole trans thing, very, very hardcore fiscal conservative.

00:30:03.000 The Kardashian family as a whole has that kind of in their back pocket too.

00:30:08.000 And the list goes on and on and on about all of these like conservative tentacles reaching into these very, very powerful celebrity types.

00:30:16.000 And I, being the ever optimist, think that we can effectively go in and snag a lot of those people and drag them, not drag them, convince them to come over to our side because, you know, our ideas are better and we live our lives better and we have more fun.

00:30:32.000 And so I think that that's possible.

00:30:34.000 And kind of, you know, Justin and Haley having a baby, I think is a great step in the right direction.

00:30:40.000 Now, are they going to come out and endorse the politicians we want?

00:30:43.000 Probably not.

00:30:44.000 But like Daisy and Morgan were saying, it's a good thing for the culture to see what a good example of a married, happy couple looks like.

00:30:54.000 I totally agree.

00:30:55.000 And on that note, where you're talking about going in and grabbing the culture, I, you know, Charlie probably wouldn't love me bringing this up, but you know, he got a ton of controversy recently.

00:31:05.000 And Morgan and Daisy, you'll remember this, when he said that, you know, we're feeding these lies to young women and they're putting their career first.

00:31:13.000 Then they find out when they're 30 that the dating pools, and by the way, he said less attractive in the dating pool.

00:31:20.000 And, you know, people took it like saying that 30-year-old women can't be beautiful or something.

00:31:25.000 That's not what he was saying.

00:31:26.000 It's a fact.

00:31:27.000 And by the way, when that clip, you know, surfaced, I went and looked up and it was like 12, I found like a dozen left-leaning sites that all said, it can be really hard to find your husband when you're in your 30s because you put your career first.

00:31:40.000 Here's some tips and tricks.

00:31:41.000 Like they just, I mean, but to your point earlier, I think, Daisy, you said this.

00:31:46.000 It's only offensive when a Christian white man says the truth. 1.00

00:31:51.000 Is this, if we're going to reach more culture, should, you know, is it strategically wise to have people like Morgan out front and Ali Beth Stuckey and all, you know, this growing cadre of women that are into this trad wife, that are into these traditional values?

00:32:08.000 Do you guys need to be the tip of the speaker?

00:32:10.000 Do we just, Christian white men need to shut up? 0.97

00:32:13.000 Like, I kind of hate that, but it seems to cause a big stir when we get in the mix. 0.98

00:32:17.000 I think there's a part of it.

00:32:19.000 And I think, Morgan, you've been seeing the same thing on your TikTok and Instagram after the Harrison Butker thing.

00:32:23.000 Everyone that's upset is like single white women in their 30s for the most part.

00:32:29.000 And I really do believe that it's because deep down they know it's true and they have to be defensive because if they don't believe that this is true, then that means that they've actually bought into the lies that they're being told.

00:32:40.000 And that would mean that they have wasted some of their time.

00:32:44.000 If really, if these are lies that they're being fed, then they have to believe that they're true or else they're in for a different reality. 1.00

00:32:52.000 Well, it's been decades of feminists reprogramming our generation to actually believe these lies that they've been spoon-fed their whole lives. 1.00

00:33:00.000 So the only way I think to actually do a lot of the reversing is for young women like myself to speak out to these women because a lot of the women, they're not going to listen to a Christian man like Harrison Butker, but they are more likely to listen to someone like me who's saying, get off your birth control. 1.00

00:33:15.000 You need a change.

00:33:16.000 The birth control thing, it's like the homesteading thing.

00:33:21.000 What are the other trends in this trad?

00:33:23.000 Like being a stay-at-home mom, if you're able as a family, like these things feel like they're gaining momentum, but man, are you running into some headwinds here?

00:33:32.000 And Daisy, I love your point.

00:33:33.000 I think it's so critical.

00:33:35.000 We're hitting at this fundamental truth.

00:33:37.000 And that's why the demons are shuddering.

00:33:40.000 That's why we're hearing all this coping and seething and wailing and gnashing of teeth.

00:33:44.000 Morgan, how big is this movement for those at home that maybe aren't aware?

00:33:49.000 How big is the trad wife movement, the trad lady thing?

00:33:53.000 The movement is continuing to grow because I think that young women are fed up with just seeing the lies of birth control, seeing the lies of you have to work in the corporate world to be successful and equating womanhood and motherhood to not being success.

00:34:08.000 And women are inherently meant to do that. 0.76

00:34:11.000 So, when they're continuously told that, you know, what you want naturally in life isn't what's actually going to serve you, it is a problem.

00:34:17.000 So, the movement is definitely growing.

00:34:19.000 I know we have our Young Women's Leadership Summit coming up where thousands of women who are craving just to have more knowledge on homesteading, have more knowledge on motherhood and why embracing femininity is important, will all show up together because they're actually craving some biblical and some craving some Christian truths about motherhood and womanhood.

00:34:38.000 So, I think we need to talk more about it.

00:34:39.000 Yeah, two questions, though.

00:34:41.000 So, in our chat, people are like, What is a trad?

00:34:45.000 And then, two, you mentioned birth control.

00:34:47.000 That's a huge old topic that we didn't even have on the list today.

00:34:51.000 So, but you today, but you threw it out there.

00:34:54.000 So, what you and Daisy, what is trad?

00:34:56.000 What does that even mean?

00:34:57.000 I mean, it's traditional, right?

00:34:58.000 But, like, what does that mean?

00:35:01.000 And, well, but what is traditional? 0.98

00:35:03.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:35:04.000 What is traditional? 0.89

00:35:05.000 I don't know.

00:35:06.000 There's a lot of questions here.

00:35:08.000 So, and then, two, you know, let's dive into this birth control thing because a lot of people probably don't, you know, know that there are problems with birth control.

00:35:17.000 I mean, I would just say that traditional is embracing traditional values when it comes to biblical values for me personally and wanting to naturally embrace womanhood, embracing femininity, and embracing masculinity with men, raising nuclear families, and encouraging that.

00:35:17.000 Totally.

00:35:34.000 I would say that's what traditional is.

00:35:36.000 Yeah.

00:35:36.000 And I trad wife has like kind of become a phrase on TikTok and Instagram.

00:35:40.000 And I think they're not all the way there yet, but people are becoming more accustomed to the idea of going back to like wearing feminine dresses and makeup and like making bread.

00:35:53.000 And people are talking about having chickens and raising families and staying at home and just going back to those traditional gender roles.

00:35:59.000 That, and I don't think they're going back to them for the necessarily all of the right reasons.

00:36:03.000 I think because it's becoming trendy.

00:36:05.000 But I think if we can get some of the culture back there, that will inherently be a good thing. 0.99

00:36:10.000 And then going back to the birth control thing, I think that's one of the topics that the left and the right both can come together on and say, hey, this is something that's affecting a lot of women.

00:36:21.000 I mean, we've seen so many articles come out recently in studies of like not any sort of biased studies, but just that women are ditching their birth control.

00:36:29.000 And that is a really amazing thing.

00:36:31.000 You don't have to be on the right to see that birth control has been lying to you, that Big Pharma has been lying to you.

00:36:37.000 You can see that just from your own life.

00:36:39.000 And I think that the more women that have their own lived experiences and see what's actually happening to them and the lies that they're being told, the more that they will inherently go to the right.

00:36:47.000 Because like Joe Bob said, like people see the way that, like, if you actually see the way that we live, not the way that people think that patriarchy, white supremacy, all that stuff is, like, it really is a great life to enjoy your family, enjoy the traditions, enjoy God, enjoy your country.

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00:38:03.000 On the birth control thing, I just do want to add a little bit because Alex Clark, who is also a Turning Point USA contributor, has been big on this and she's been filling me with articles.

00:38:12.000 Basically, and correct me if I'm wrong, Morgan and Daisy, but the idea is that birth control can hide a lot of potential fertility issues.

00:38:22.000 So it will mask over them.

00:38:24.000 And by the time women get off birth control and want to start having a family, they're not aware of underlying issues that they could have dealt with at a time where it could have been more effective dealing with them.

00:38:34.000 Or maybe they're not able to deal with them at all later in life, right?

00:38:38.000 So there's that.

00:38:39.000 And then there's also a bunch of studies that have come out that have shown women on birth control, especially certain types of hormonal birth control, have suicidal thoughts and ideations and they have higher levels of depression.

00:38:51.000 So a lot of this stuff is kind of coming out.

00:38:54.000 And to your point, Daisy, I think the left, left-leaning sort of earthy, crunchy women were the ones that did most of the pioneering work on this. 0.88

00:39:01.000 And now they're trying to make it out like the handmaid's tale, you know, right-wing Christian nationalists are trying to put them in frocks or whatever.

00:39:08.000 But that, just to give a little primer for our audience on the birth control thing, right, right, Joe Bob?

00:39:14.000 Poor Joe Bob is like, my other dude on the panel, we're just going through birth control.

00:39:20.000 Do you want to comment on that?

00:39:21.000 Not necessarily on the birth control, but I do like a lot what Morgan and Daisy are saying, just kind of on the culture of reversion kind of back to more traditional values.

00:39:30.000 One thing that I think is pretty apparent in my own life, I'm seeing this happen in real time.

00:39:36.000 We have a nine-month-old daughter, and my wife is a high-achieving woman.

00:39:43.000 She's got a master's degree, is a clinical therapist, and supervises other clinical therapists.

00:39:49.000 But because this kind of movement of this trad life lifestyle has kind of bubbled up organically through kind of social media outlets, what I've seen is that it has given permission for high-achieving women like my wife to go, oh, well, what is the actual important thing here? 0.99

00:40:09.000 And kind of take a step back and go, well, I've been told forever that, well, this is, you know, the career-oriented women in power and whatever, all of that stuff.

00:40:18.000 And now that I have a child, okay, well, I do like the child more, but that's not what society is telling me.

00:40:24.000 And what I see is women like her looking to the kind of social media trad life, trad wife life and saying, okay, so it is okay that I prioritize my kid over my career, even for, you know, high-achieving women. 0.59

00:40:40.000 And the fact that they're able to look at something that says it's okay to do that, I think is huge and is going to have big impacts on the culture going forward if we let the traditional lifestyle kind of come back organically.

00:40:57.000 Yeah, I think that's, I think that's really well said.

00:41:00.000 And I do think that this idea of permission, I mean, you think about it on a wider level, that is actually the mission of Turning Point USA as a whole.

00:41:10.000 On campus, we're giving students permission to sort of embrace conservative ideas and values, be vocal about it.

00:41:17.000 Within culture, we're giving people permission to, you know, get behind some of these ideas that have been pushed to the back burner. 0.99

00:41:24.000 All these women are getting depressed. 1.00

00:41:25.000 They're popping pills, antidepressants, and all this thing.

00:41:28.000 And all of a sudden, this movement emerges out of that cultural morass.

00:41:34.000 And you have guys like Harrison Butker who are stepping in it and basically calling out the lies.

00:41:40.000 Morgan, I want to go back to you because, you know, you are one of these people that are out front on this particular topic.

00:41:48.000 How much pushback are you getting?

00:41:50.000 Or do you feel like you're getting like this green light from social media?

00:41:54.000 I would say a majority of the pushback is coming from women my own age who have yet to see the lies that they have been sold.

00:42:02.000 And I'm with Joe Bob on this.

00:42:03.000 You know, there's nothing wrong with wanting to get a degree.

00:42:06.000 There's nothing wrong with wanting to have some academic or career accolades.

00:42:10.000 But then once you acknowledge that, wow, motherhood is beautiful, rejecting these societal norms is actually way better.

00:42:17.000 And living a more conservative lifestyle is going to make me happier because I'm not hooked on SSRIs.

00:42:23.000 I'm not continuing to just propel the cultural lies that have been said to us.

00:42:28.000 And, you know, same with the birth control thing.

00:42:30.000 It's like, I think this is a uniparty issue that we can actually wake up a lot of feminists about when they see how much pharma has lied to them, how much they're kind of being poisoned by their birth control, and they can actually live a happier life off of all of these pharmaceutical drugs and leading towards a more traditional life.

00:42:47.000 And I think it is happening a lot more naturally than people expected, even when you look at the home growing in the cooking side of Instagram and TikTok, you know, the sourdough industry.

00:42:57.000 So I think this is very positive and we need to keep just talking about it naturally.

00:43:02.000 So I love that conversation and it's kind of like flipping that on its head, but I wanted to get to this because this is this new idea of you, this new Amazon movie, MGM's number one romantic comedy debut of all time, 50 million viewers, according to Variety.

00:43:20.000 It turned, it was a fictional book about a book about a fictional band, like a boy band and singer.

00:43:29.000 And then they turned it into a movie.

00:43:31.000 And it's about a 40-year-old mom and a 24-year-old boy, boy bander.

00:43:38.000 They start dating.

00:43:39.000 And I guess in the book, he's only 20, right, Daisy?

00:43:42.000 You gave me the briefer on this.

00:43:43.000 I read the book and the movie, and they changed quite a bit from the book to the movie that I think made it a little more digestible.

00:43:52.000 But you keep going, and then we can get to the trailer and all that.

00:43:55.000 Yeah, I was just going to throw up to the I'm going to throw the not throw up to the trailer.

00:43:59.000 I don't know.

00:43:59.000 Maybe I will.

00:44:00.000 I haven't seen it yet.

00:44:03.000 154.

00:44:04.000 Go ahead and play it.

00:44:06.000 How did you guys meet?

00:44:07.000 We need to know the story.

00:44:08.000 We need a Coachella.

00:44:12.000 Hi. 1.00

00:44:13.000 Hi.

00:44:14.000 Is this your trailer?

00:44:15.000 Yeah, I'm in the band.

00:44:16.000 We're performing on the main stage.

00:44:18.000 August Moon?

00:44:19.000 Yeah.

00:44:20.000 I missed the one tonight.

00:44:21.000 I feel a little inspired.

00:44:23.000 This one's called Closer.

00:44:25.000 Cause I want to get closer to him.

00:44:34.000 No, my being happy would piss so many people off.

00:44:37.000 Did I not warn you? 1.00

00:44:38.000 People hate happy women.

00:44:45.000 What are you going to do?

00:44:53.000 Well, okay.

00:44:54.000 So I believe the two ladies have seen this film.

00:44:59.000 Okay, so you tell me.

00:45:01.000 I haven't seen any of it.

00:45:02.000 This is the first time I've even seen the trailer.

00:45:04.000 I just thought the premise was fascinating.

00:45:06.000 Well, so I was planning on hate watching the movie.

00:45:09.000 I knew it was coming out.

00:45:10.000 I read the book a while ago just because it was a really popular book.

00:45:14.000 I didn't really know what it was about at the time, but I hated the book.

00:45:17.000 It was essentially this 20-year-old kid in a boy band and this 40-year-old mom who had a 12-year-old daughter, and the 12-year-old daughter was obsessed with the boy band, Mom, Boy Bander, Meet, Fall in Love.

00:45:31.000 And I just thought that was so weird.

00:45:34.000 I still do think it's weird.

00:45:35.000 The movie, they did make it, like I said, a little more digestible.

00:45:38.000 I think in the movie, they made him 24, which I do think is better than 20.

00:45:42.000 I still don't think that that's great, but I do think it's better.

00:45:45.000 Like, it's easier to watch as a viewer.

00:45:48.000 But why is it not great?

00:45:50.000 You know, why I mean, 40-year-old men date 20-year-old women all the time, right?

00:45:54.000 Joe Bob?

00:45:54.000 I mean, it's just, I would think it's weird either way, personally.

00:45:58.000 I do think another part that makes it better is that the mom is still 40, but she has a 17-year-old daughter.

00:46:04.000 And the 17-year-old daughter in the movie is not really a fan of the boy band at all, because that does become a big piece in the book that it's weird that the mom and the daughter are into the same person.

00:46:14.000 And then I think it had a really nice message at the ending.

00:46:17.000 This is a spoiler.

00:46:19.000 I don't think either of y'all are going to watch this movie.

00:46:22.000 But just if you, if anyone listening wants to watch this movie, this is a spoiler alert.

00:46:27.000 It basically comes to a point at the end where it's really hard for the daughter because everyone is kind of like bullying her and obsessed or obsessed with her mom and her mom being a cougar and all these jokes remade.

00:46:37.000 And the mom basically says to the guy, like, my daughter is more important than this relationship.

00:46:42.000 Like, I am really happy with you, but I have to put my daughter first and my family first.

00:46:46.000 And then they break up.

00:46:47.000 So I actually liked the movie, unfortunately, because I also was watching it being like, this is like embarrassed.

00:46:54.000 And then I actually enjoyed the movie.

00:46:56.000 But I do think the underlying messaging is what's concerning because I know we were talking about this.

00:47:01.000 If you switch the roles and it was a 40-year-old man going after a 20-year-old girl who's in like a girl band, I do think that that is, you know, even more of a problem of like, ooh, a young girl with this older man.

00:47:13.000 Like, is she a gold digger?

00:47:15.000 Like, what does he do?

00:47:16.000 And so I just don't think that glorifying these kinds of movies of having these super absurd age gaps and then having the kids be involved with the families, it's just showing a non-traditional kind of family that I think is like, in the end, damaging.

00:47:31.000 You know, at the end, the young girl was like, hey, this is a problem for me.

00:47:33.000 I don't like this.

00:47:34.000 Yeah, definitely.

00:47:35.000 And like I said, I was slightly embarrassed that I liked the movie.

00:47:38.000 I thought it was funny.

00:47:39.000 I don't think I'm ever going to watch it again, but I definitely would say it was better than the book.

00:47:43.000 Joe Bob, does this offend you?

00:47:45.000 Like this age gap?

00:47:48.000 Well, so, okay, so this is, this is, I don't know, maybe an interesting perspective/slash takeaway, but me being the pseudo-art critic, that was the first time I had watched the trailer.

00:47:58.000 But then when I was watching the trailer, what I was seeing visually wasn't lining up with the story that Daisy had kind of presented, a 24-year-old and a 40-year-old woman.

00:48:08.000 What I saw was Anne Hathaway, who I looked up just now, is 41 years old, but like looks pretty good as a 41-year-old.

00:48:15.000 And if you told me she was 34 or 35, I'd be like, yeah, that's fine.

00:48:19.000 And then the guy that was supposed to play the 24-year-old is 29 years old and looks like he also could be 33.

00:48:28.000 If someone were to tell me, oh, this guy's in his mid-30s, I'd be like, yeah, that makes sense.

00:48:32.000 So the whole idea of this big age gap presented in kind of the story in and of itself wasn't really coming through to me watching the movie or watching them both on screen.

00:48:44.000 So visually, I didn't get that, ugh, 40-year-old and the 24-year-old, which is what I would do if I just heard it without seeing it visually.

00:48:52.000 So I wonder if that was like an intentional kind of trying to wash that out or trying to make it like, oh, this is totally fine and acceptable because look at, look, they look fine together.

00:49:03.000 Well, yeah, it's Hollywood.

00:49:05.000 Of course, they're going to look fine together.

00:49:06.000 But if you boil that down to reality in real life, that's not how that's going to look in a real world scenario.

00:49:14.000 So I don't know.

00:49:15.000 I wonder if that's like a thing that was done on purpose or if that just kind of worked out with the actors that they chose.

00:49:21.000 But I kind of think that whole kind of big age gap between the woman and the boy kind of gets washed away when you look at it visually.

00:49:30.000 And I wonder if that was done intentionally.

00:49:32.000 I also think what was done intentionally was that line in there about like it pisses people off to see a woman happy because I don't think that was as big of a storyline in the movie.

00:49:42.000 It wasn't about like, oh, you're a woman, you can't be happy, you have to be in line.

00:49:46.000 And I think that's kind of what they made the trailer about.

00:49:48.000 Yeah, no, it's definitely clickbait.

00:49:49.000 And visually, I agree with you, Joe Bob, but I do think that Hollywood did that intentionally so that people would watch the movie.

00:49:55.000 Ann Hathaway, you know, this young, good-looking guy, and they kind of look like they could be together in real life without with the underlying tones of the age gap.

00:50:04.000 Yeah, I sort of wonder, though, if the roles are reversed, right?

00:50:08.000 If you have a 40-year-old guy and a 24-year-old woman, I mean, I mean, that happens relatively frequently.

00:50:16.000 And by the way, the richer the dude, the older he can be and get a younger and younger girl.

00:50:20.000 I mean, that's just facts.

00:50:21.000 I'm just being, I'm just being factual here.

00:50:23.000 So, I mean, I do, on the one hand, I said this to Daisy.

00:50:27.000 I don't know if this is like thought crimey or whatever, but like, I mean, I mean, I wonder if the culture doesn't like frown on the reverse gender roles here, reverse sexes in those age gaps.

00:50:40.000 If it doesn't frown on them, because you could still have children.

00:50:43.000 And, like, historically, you know, in like England, you know, the aristocracy, you would have old gentry, like, you know, men marry very young, eligible women, right? 0.90

00:50:56.000 And so, I guess, like, it's kind of built in culturally in our history that this has happened the other way around.

00:51:01.000 And so, that's why this movie is even controversial at all.

00:51:05.000 I don't know, but I, on the one hand, I get people saying it's double standard.

00:51:10.000 On the other hand, I'm like, yeah, but I don't, for some reason, I'm guilty of that double standard because it feels way more normal.

00:51:18.000 I don't know.

00:51:19.000 I still think it would be weird if it was a 40-year-old man and a 20-year-old woman.

00:51:23.000 I think that's like inherently just really strange in my opinion.

00:51:27.000 But I still think it makes it better someone being 24 than 20.

00:51:31.000 I mean, I'm 24 now, and I would say I have learned so much since I was 20.

00:51:36.000 I think, and I think there's more of a power dynamic too when someone's 20 versus 24.

00:51:41.000 I don't know.

00:51:42.000 It's weird.

00:51:44.000 I feel like, oh, shoot, I lost my train of thought of where I was going.

00:51:48.000 Oh, oh, that's what I was going to say.

00:51:49.000 Andrew, talking about a double standard.

00:51:52.000 Yes, I get that.

00:51:53.000 I think what we're looking at here, double standard, I think is a term that has been used to bully people into thinking that things aren't different.

00:52:03.000 But in reality, you're right.

00:52:05.000 There is a difference between a 40-year-old woman dating a 20-year-old guy or a 40-year-old man dating a 20-year-old woman.

00:52:11.000 I don't think either is okay, but the reason the standards are different is, and hold your horses here, this is going to shock some people, because they're different.

00:52:20.000 That's the reality.

00:52:21.000 Men are different than women. 1.00

00:52:22.000 And so this standard isn't necessarily supposed to be equal to begin with.

00:52:27.000 And so when you say, well, yeah, when people say, well, this is a double standard, well, yeah, but you're kind of abusing the language there and saying that they're supposed to be equal when the reality is it's just not the same.

00:52:39.000 And whether you want to admit that is kind of irrelevant because that's what reality is.

00:52:44.000 And so if you're going to argue with reality and the roles of men and women and go through that whole charade, then fine, I guess you can do that.

00:52:53.000 But at the end of the day, the reason it's different is because men and women are different. 0.63

00:52:58.000 And I will say, society has more normalized, you know, young women dating older men.

00:53:03.000 That has been just culturally normalized society, normalized it.

00:53:07.000 But I do still think it's weird.

00:53:09.000 It is.

00:53:09.000 Yeah.

00:53:10.000 Well, on that note, I think we've hit our max here.

00:53:14.000 So thank you guys for joining.

00:53:16.000 I always love these pop culture power hours.

00:53:19.000 And now you guys are, Joe, Bob, you've participated in the past, but Morgan, this is your first introduction.

00:53:25.000 And we're happy to have you.

00:53:27.000 Thank you guys.

00:53:28.000 Daisy, thanks for setting this up.

00:53:30.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:53:32.000 Talk to you soon.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 17, 2024

Pop Culture Panel: Harrison Butker, Justin and Hailey Bieber, and an Age-Gap Rom-Com

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