00:01:36.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:07.000China is an enemy of the United States.
00:02:11.000The more we talk about Ukraine, the more we talk about all these silly issues, we lose sight of the Chinese Communist Party's attempted takeover of the world.
00:02:24.000Yesterday we mentioned the Belt and Road Initiative.
00:02:27.000We talked about their digital dictatorship.
00:02:33.000China right now is getting very nervous.
00:02:37.000China is sending students home so they can't protest.
00:02:44.000Meaning, China is getting very nervous that there is something that is bubbling up under the surface in mainland China.
00:02:50.000China is sending university students away from their university back home so that they cannot be consolidated or collected on campuses, which kind of become places for protest and for dissent against the regime.
00:03:08.000Every single totalitarian country, from the Russian Revolution to Mao Sedong to Pol Pot, never allows dissent.
00:03:24.000You know you are on the side of the deceivers on the wrong side of history if you are the one marching through the streets with weapons preventing people from talking.
00:03:37.000Joining us now is Bill Goertz to walk us through the latest report from the Pentagon involving China.
00:03:45.000It is military and security developments involving the People's Republic of China.
00:03:49.000What a laughable title of their country, but we'll use it.
00:04:04.000What are the big takeaways from the Chinese Communist Party's infiltration and aggressive posture towards the West?
00:04:13.000Yeah, the main element of the new story is that China will have 1,500 warheads in 2035.
00:04:22.000This is part of the nuclear expansion that has been described as breathtaking by the commander of the U.S. Strategic Command.
00:04:31.000By contrast, in 2020, they had about 200 warheads, and they've doubled that number within one year, and they now have 400 warheads, and they're deploying large numbers of multiple warhead DF-41 ICBMs.
00:04:50.000And this is all part of a Chinese strategy to basically take control of the world, ultimately.
00:04:57.000First, Taiwan, and then the rest of the world.
00:05:01.000So right now, there are protests happening all throughout mainland China.
00:05:05.000The CCP regime seems increasingly nervous as they're recalling students back from university.
00:05:12.000They've deployed their shock troops or the Chinese Communist Party equivalent of the Gestapo.
00:05:18.000Video after video shows them now going around with seems to be batons or wands and smacking citizens.
00:05:24.000So nothing overly violent, obviously cruel from a Western lens, but not yet kind of Tiananmen Square type massacres that we saw previously.
00:05:35.000How does the Chinese Communist Party's international ambitions, how is that put in jeopardy or actually maybe even going to be focused on more because of what we're currently seeing in mainland China?
00:05:49.000Yeah, this is what we're seeing is the Chinese have adopted something that is led by Chinese dictator Xi Jinping called Zero COVID.
00:06:01.000It was announced in 2020 after the outbreak of the COVID in Wuhan.
00:06:08.000And it's very similar to earlier Chinese Communist Party mass campaigns like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution.
00:07:39.000It doesn't surprise me, in fact, I've said this for quite some time, that I believe the American left is jealous of the Chinese Communist Party, of how much power they have and how they're able to basically obliterate somebody's civil liberties.
00:07:54.000I mean, there are members of the American left that would love to be able to walk on the street and look at people's phones and be able to basically control them and micro-engineer them via a digital dictatorship.
00:08:07.000Surveill is the word I was looking for.
00:08:11.000It is Deceiving the Sky Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy.
00:08:17.000Explain for our audience, because I mentioned it briefly yesterday, but I didn't go into great detail: what is the Belt and Road Initiative?
00:08:25.000Yeah, this is ostensibly a developing world infrastructure program, but it's really a stalking horse for expanding Chinese communism.
00:08:38.000Chinese communism for years had a strategy put forth by Deng Xiaoping, one of the earlier leaders, called Bide Our Time, Hide Our Capabilities.
00:08:51.000They've dropped all pretense of that earlier cautious approach, and now they're on the march.
00:08:57.000And the Belt and Road Initiative, they go into developing countries and they tell these countries, we'd like to build a railroad for you.
00:09:07.000And then they impose extravagant terms on the loans.
00:09:12.000And when the countries can't repay it, they say, well, this railroad's now ours.
00:09:16.000And they're literally taking over countries by doing that.
00:09:20.000And the strategy is to start in the developing world and work their way and try to encircle and control all the countries around the United States.
00:09:30.000The United States is viewed as the main enemy by the Chinese Communist Party, and they're working aggressively to undermine and ultimately destroy the country.
00:09:40.000And they're doing it to some of the most vulnerable countries.
00:09:45.000I mean, there's a story, I can't remember the country.
00:09:47.000You would know the country in Africa, Central Africa, where they bought the only airport and then they just shut it down.
00:09:55.000It was either the Congo or South Sudan or one of these countries where they just buy up all the critical infrastructure and then they're able to get after the precious metals, which is actually what they want.
00:10:10.000And also, they're literally using their style of corruption.
00:10:14.000They're literally buying off politicians in these countries with large amounts of cash.
00:10:20.000And basically, that's how they plan to take over these countries.
00:10:24.000And Africa and South America are two key areas where they're very aggressively promoting the Chinese view, even despite the fact that most of the world recognizes that the COVID pandemic came from China and was most likely from dangerous experiments that were taking place at a Chinese lab in Wuhan.
00:10:49.000I want to mention your book again, and I think it's very important for people deceiving the sky inside Communist China's drive for global supremacy.
00:11:00.000Again, Bill is a national security correspondent for the Washington Times, and again, author of Deceiving the Sky Inside Communist China's Drive for Global Supremacy.
00:11:10.000Bill, do you think that China and the Chinese Communist Party, do you think they're taking on too many projects at once?
00:11:15.000Do you think that they actually might be more likely for a tumble, a fall, or a collapse than they might actually lead us to believe?
00:11:30.000The Communist Party is tightly in control.
00:11:33.000Xi Jinping, since coming to power in 2012, instituted a massive purge of anyone perceived as a threat to his rule.
00:11:44.000And we saw this was dramatically played out in October at the major Communist Party Congress where they escorted the previous leader, Hu Jintao, from the meeting.
00:11:56.000There's a whole kinds of theories as to why, but the thinking was that Hu Jintao, the earlier leader, was going to vote against Xi Jinping taking on an unprecedented third term in power.
00:12:09.000He now has more power than Mao Zedong, or is on par with the power that Mao Zedong had.
00:12:16.000And he is imposed a mass surveillance system like the world has never seen.
00:12:23.000Hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of cameras connected to databases that can identify people by facial characteristics, even the gait as they walk.
00:13:03.000I'm afraid it's going to be a little bit futile because only one side has the guns.
00:13:09.000And if you look at what the Chinese Communist Party has said before, Mao Sedong says political power is derived from the end of a barrel of a gun.
00:13:18.000Let's play the tape here really quick of the Shanghai police grabbing phones to search citizens.
00:13:57.000Yeah, we mentioned earlier about the Biden administration's response.
00:14:00.000It's a little-known fact, and I've reported this in the Washington Times.
00:14:04.000The Biden administration, including the president himself, Jake Sullivan, and the Secretary of State, have said that they're not going to oppose the Chinese communist system.
00:14:14.000This is a break from the Trump administration, which made clear that the real cause of the China threat, the threat posed by China, is Marxist-Leninist ideology in China.
00:14:26.000And this is the fatal error of the Biden administration's foreign policy.
00:14:31.000They've got to recognize that it's a communist threat.
00:14:39.000Our great country was founded on the principle that all men are created equal.
00:14:43.000But far too many of our nation's colleges and universities, including those Ivy League schools, continue to insist on using race as a factor of admission.
00:14:52.000The Supreme Court is deciding a case on this right now.
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00:15:40.000One of my favorite guests joins us right now.
00:15:43.000He has been predicting the coming collapse of China for quite some time.
00:15:48.000He's also the author of the great U.S.-China Tech War.
00:15:57.000Gordon, you've been on our program a couple times, and I've heard you speak at several events, and you're always compelling and very fair and accurate.
00:16:37.000And when they were on the streets, they not only were complaining about COVID lockdowns, they were complaining about the Communist Party and Xi Jinping specifically saying down with the Communist Party, down with Xi Jinping.
00:16:56.000But because of the way the people feel, and this is deep-seated and widespread, we are going to see these protests again when there's another incident.
00:17:05.000And because China's not really relenting on COVID, I think we're going to see one fairly soon.
00:17:11.000Eventually, the Chinese people are going to win over the party.
00:17:16.000So I think a very fair analysis of China is that in some ways they're extremely strong.
00:17:25.000In other ways, they are remarkably fragile.
00:17:29.000A country or a regime that does not embrace liberty will always be overly paranoid and frenetic in how they govern because when you don't have a central governing principle of liberty, the people are always your greatest threat.
00:17:52.000For Americans that don't understand Chinese geography, can you explain the scope of these protests about how they're not just in one region, but they are nationwide?
00:18:04.000And what is your estimate of how many people are approximately participating in them?
00:18:10.000I would think that there's probably somewhere on the order between 10 and 25,000 people who participated in the protests.
00:18:18.000There's never going to be a really good number because they were so scattered.
00:20:03.000We know that there is this widespread discontent, resentment, and anger.
00:20:08.000We don't know, and I've been wrong on timing about this, but we do know that eventually the Chinese people are just going to gather in such mass, the party will fade away.
00:20:23.000From the party's point of view, their biggest threat are the people of China.
00:20:29.000And because of the way they define that, they then look at the United States as an existential threat because they are worried about the inspirational impact of our values and form of governance on the Chinese people.
00:20:41.000So the Communist Party makes an enemy of the United States, the strongest country in the world.
00:20:45.000That shows you what you were absolutely saying, that once you have a regime that is not founded on liberty, it will fail.
00:20:55.000And you also have leaders that are willing to do whatever it takes.
00:21:20.000It feels like the Iran model in some ways where they quell uprisings every couple of years.
00:21:27.000And so, Gordon, they have now basically sent all students away from universities back home to try and calm down the clusters of people together that might be able to then result in protests.
00:21:43.000There's also a wrinkle of this that I want to explore with you.
00:21:46.000Can you elaborate or explain to our audience how some people would, I would definitely say this, how superstition plays a role in the behavior and the decisions of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:22:02.000For example, fearing as if you're going to lose the mandate of heaven.
00:22:07.000Can you talk about that and how does that play into this zero COVID policy attempted by Xi Jiping?
00:22:15.000Well, the Communist Party, they're materialists and they don't believe themselves in superstition, or at least the senior leaders don't.
00:22:24.000But, you know, the Chinese people are the Chinese people, and they definitely believe it.
00:22:28.000And so, for instance, the blood-red sky that appeared over China just a day or so ago is taken by people as a sign that the party has lost the mandate of heaven.
00:22:40.000And the Chinese people, and even many Communist Party members are superstitious.
00:22:47.000That is something that the party worries about.
00:22:50.000And so they try to downplay these rumors all the time.
00:22:55.000But clearly, you have people who look at signs in society and believe that the party is basically on its last legs.
00:23:04.000But the kind of folklore amongst the commoner in China, they definitely believe in some of the superstition.
00:23:36.000And so you kind of have unfolding in China, the buried lead, if you will, the subterranean story, is an atheistic, materialistic regime that is governing a multi-thousand year people that still have cultural traditions and basically a common story of believing in, okay, blood, red sky, mandate of heaven, plague.
00:24:06.000That's a contradiction, isn't it, Gordon?
00:24:08.000And that also is, in some ways, a recipe for inevitable failure.
00:24:13.000Yes, and there's another aspect to this, and that is that the fastest growing phenomenon in China today is not communism, but is Protestant Christianity.
00:24:26.000And one of the reasons why the Communist Party has such trouble dealing with it, and there are many reasons, but one of them is that atheists don't understand religion, and they don't understand the power of religion.
00:24:38.000And so that's why they've not been able to control it.
00:24:42.000And that's why there could very well be, you know, no one knows the number of Protestants in China, but you'll hear estimates anywhere from 15 to 130 million.
00:25:08.000And so you put those two things together.
00:25:10.000The failure to understand religion and driving religion underground has made Protestant Christianity a mortal threat to the Communist Party.
00:25:20.000And the story of Christianity under siege or kind of Christian martyrdom is it actually creates an anti-fragile religious community that actually grows a lot stronger and more fervent and more committed.
00:25:39.000In a paradoxical way, Christianity, when it is actually institutionalized in a quote-unquote theocracy, it actually grows very corrupt and people actually stray away from the faith sometimes, not always.
00:25:55.000When Christianity is allowed, like in America, still, I mean, you see the numbers dive off.
00:26:01.000But interestingly, when Christianity is under the threat of persecution, it actually can be more robust.
00:26:09.000Not that we would want that, and it's still a very small percentage of what exists in China, but this underground church is a direct threat to the CCP.
00:26:19.000So let me, final question here, Gordon.
00:26:21.000Do you anticipate a Chinese Communist Party move against Taiwan to distract from some of the bedlam happening domestically?
00:26:33.000But before I answer that, just one other thing about it.
00:26:36.000The Communist Party is deadly afraid of Christianity because Christians have the fervor that the Communists had in the 1930s and the 1940s.
00:26:45.0001949 is when communists took over China.
00:26:49.000So they see that in the Christians, there's this fervor that they can't stop.
00:26:54.000And because no one has that fervor in the Communist Party anymore except for Xi Jinping.
00:26:59.000You know, on your question, yes, because Xi Jinping right now, he has all these domestic failures of which he is the author of.
00:27:33.000I want everyone to check out Gordon's book, The Coming Collapse of China, but also the great U.S.-China tech war.
00:27:40.000There's something very powerful happening in China right now.
00:27:44.000And you might be witnessing the first stage, the coming attractions, the preview, the canary in the coal mine of the collapse of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:27:55.000I really believe that if we had a better leader in the White House, we could just tip the scale and get rid of these evil tyrants that run the CCP.
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00:30:12.000So there was a 35-minute interlude at a black church in Atlanta.
00:30:19.000Now, hilariously, for the last couple of months, we have been told, as Christians, can't get involved in politics, don't get involved in politics.
00:30:28.000What they're trying to say is don't get involved in conservative politics.
00:30:30.000But in black churches, when they come out and they start talking about voting for Raphael Warnock, everyone's just fine with it.
00:30:42.000So, for example, we have Murphy, this guy, Murphy, a pastor, says, quote, God would have us mix worship and justice and politics.
00:30:53.000I'm decreeing and declaring that folk who had no intention on voting for Raphael Warnock, the Spirit of God, is going to arrest them.
00:31:05.000A couple dozen pastors from around the country take the stage, including Bishop Jamie Dixon, the president of NAACP Houston, revs up the crowd.
00:31:15.000Quote, God's about to cause a shift in this nation, in this world, through the election of Raphael Warnock.
00:31:21.000We're going to praise him into the Senate.
00:31:26.000They continue, it's time to put the kingdom over government.
00:31:30.000What God is doing by sending this man of God into the Senate, he's putting man there with a kingdom identity, a kingdom mentality, a kingdom authority to establish a kingdom territory.
00:31:44.000Continues, Warnock ties his stump speech.
00:31:48.000A vote is a kind of prayer, he says, to two verses about actual prayer, James 5, 16 and 2 Chronicles 7, 14, to encourage turnout.
00:32:00.000Pray Monday, pray Tuesday, pray Wednesday, pray Thursday, pray Friday, and pray again next Tuesday.
00:32:04.000So let me answer me this, Reverend Warnock.
00:32:08.000Why is it that as a Reverend, you're voting to redefine biblical marriage?
00:32:13.000Why is it that you're okay with let alone any abortion, but late-term abortion?
00:32:18.000Why is it, Reverend Warnock, that you invoke the word of God while you talk about some of the most heinous and cruel policies towards churches and Christians imaginable?
00:32:31.000Not to mention the fact that the church was deemed non-essential during the entire pandemic.
00:32:35.000Where were you, Raphael Warnock, for all of that?
00:32:38.000These black pastors are congregating around, creating multiple, repeated, and public heresies saying that we got to go vote for Raphael Warnock.
00:33:19.000Deeper than the very blatant IRS violation that conservatives have to live under, but the left can do whatever they want, Raphael Warnock has been and is a heretic, repeatedly putting his name and his reputation behind the transgender agenda, the radical abortion agenda, the open borders agenda.
00:33:44.000Warnock does exactly what we are commanded the opposite to do in the Ten Commandments.