The Charlie Kirk Show - Prescribing America’s Race Relations Regression with Dr. Ben Carson

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, where did all the baby formula go?

00:00:03.000 And we are joined by Dr. Ben Carson, author of the new book, Created Equal.

00:00:07.000 Why is it the country I grew up in 10 years ago has vanished?

00:00:11.000 Something really worth thinking about.

00:00:13.000 Dr. Carson and I play around with that question, especially when it comes to quote-unquote racial relations.

00:00:17.000 Who's actually stoking this sense of racial disharmony?

00:00:21.000 Well, Dr. Carson, one of the great Americans alive, helps us go through that.

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00:01:57.000 We've talked about how the Republican Party is becoming the Parents' Party, about how moms and dads are rising up to fight for their children's education.

00:02:07.000 They're pushing back against all the indoctrination that is happening in their schools.

00:02:12.000 But a new development is making the Republican Party, Parents' Party argument even easier.

00:02:18.000 Now, yes, we have a wide open southern border.

00:02:21.000 We have double-digit inflation, but I saw this story creeping up kind of on some at first fringier websites and people sending me links.

00:02:29.000 I was like, I don't know if that's true.

00:02:31.000 And I started texting around and people said, Charlie, this is totally happening.

00:02:34.000 Now, what's interesting is that if journalists were doing their job, they would have saw this story three weeks ago.

00:02:39.000 And if the administration was doing their job, they would have saw this problem very recently.

00:02:45.000 And what's the problem I'm talking about?

00:02:47.000 I'm talking about baby formula.

00:02:49.000 Now, this is a problem created by the government.

00:02:51.000 This is not some sort of act of God.

00:02:53.000 This is not some sort of tsunami or earthquake.

00:02:56.000 This is something that was deliberately done by the government.

00:03:00.000 Now, whether they did this intentionally or not, we don't know, but it was deliberate.

00:03:04.000 It was a force of action and a reaction that came from it.

00:03:08.000 And this is exposing just how corrupt our federal government is.

00:03:13.000 This is showing how incompetent our federal government is and how lobbyists destroy, pollute, contaminate any sort of process of meaningful public policy in our country.

00:03:28.000 So there's a baby formula shortage.

00:03:30.000 How did that happen?

00:03:31.000 Well, there's a company called Abbott Laboratories.

00:03:34.000 Abbott Laboratories is actually headquartered near Waukegan, Illinois, Chicago, Illinois.

00:03:40.000 Their actual corporate headquarters where they were founded is actually northern, near there, near kind of Gurney, Illinois.

00:03:46.000 And so Abbott Laboratories is a very powerful company.

00:03:51.000 Abbott Laboratories did $34 billion in revenue last year alone.

00:03:56.000 Abbott Laboratories made huge money in the midst of the Chinese Fauci coronavirus on testing.

00:04:02.000 I don't think they got into vaccines, but on every other thing you could possibly make money on, they were front and center on that.

00:04:10.000 They're a medical technology company, and some of what they do is perfectly fine.

00:04:14.000 But then you go to their website.

00:04:15.000 If you go to Abbott.com, do you know what they say?

00:04:20.000 The first thing they say: clinical trials have a diversity problem.

00:04:24.000 That's why we here at Abbott are taking action to make research more inclusive.

00:04:30.000 And so you can just tell they're part of not just the medical industrial complex, they're part of all the other kinds of diversity, equity, inclusion, or diversity, inclusion, equity die sort of movement that has done so much damage to our country and continues to do that.

00:04:48.000 So you go to their website, it's all this nonsense.

00:04:50.000 But what most people don't know is almost all of our baby formula is created by Abbott.

00:04:59.000 Is that Abbott is the baby formula kind of centerpiece?

00:05:06.000 They are the, if you were to shut down, let's say, Coca-Cola, you would have a soft drink beverage crisis.

00:05:13.000 There's like PepsiCo and Coca-Cola, and that's it for the major creators.

00:05:17.000 The same goes for baby formula.

00:05:20.000 So the federal government came in months ago, I think weeks ago, I get the exact date, and they shut down Abbott's factories.

00:05:32.000 Now, why'd they do that?

00:05:33.000 Well, because of a potential contamination outbreak.

00:05:35.000 That's fine.

00:05:37.000 I actually want that to happen.

00:05:39.000 You don't want to have contaminated baby formula.

00:05:41.000 People died as a result of it, allegedly.

00:05:43.000 Okay, so what didn't happen is the next step, which is anyone in our government to say, wait a second, if we shut down the creator of 40% of our creation of baby formula in our country, who's going to replace that exactly?

00:06:00.000 No one thought that through because we have clowns running our government, far too distracted on getting kickbacks and getting some sort of private and secret deals.

00:06:10.000 So instead, the federal government just kind of lets it happen. 0.88

00:06:15.000 And this is a government-created crisis.

00:06:19.000 Now, how we got to a place ever where we are now dependent on foreign nation baby formula shows exactly the lie of foreign internationalist trade.

00:06:31.000 There are certain things we should make in our country.

00:06:33.000 Vitamin C, we really don't.

00:06:35.000 We should.

00:06:36.000 We should make very basic drugs like penicillin, which we really don't.

00:06:40.000 How about baby formula?

00:06:42.000 And this is one of the big problems with the free traders, of which I used to call myself one.

00:06:46.000 The free traders say, well, you can get it for less from other countries.

00:06:49.000 Okay, I agree.

00:06:50.000 That's probably true.

00:06:52.000 Is it the same quality?

00:06:53.000 And what happens when things other than price start to factor in?

00:06:58.000 What happens when all of a sudden you go to war with a country?

00:07:00.000 Or what if China doesn't want us to have baby formula anymore? 1.00

00:07:03.000 Or whatever a country that we might need to.

00:07:09.000 Now, mind you, the baby formula industry lobbied for years to weaken the bacteria safety testing standards, Abbott being one of them.

00:07:20.000 Abbott Labs, which is Abbott Nutrition, which helps is under kind of their whole system, their whole conglomerate, I should say.

00:07:28.000 They have that facility in Sturgis, Michigan.

00:07:31.000 And in Sturgis, Michigan, this is where the outbreak happened and the FDA shut them down.

00:07:37.000 Now, mind you, why wouldn't Abbott also say, wait a second, if you're going to shut us down, there's going to be a baby formula shortage in our country?

00:07:46.000 Why did no one actually think that through?

00:07:49.000 Well, I don't trust our government at all.

00:07:51.000 I've become very cynical and skeptical.

00:07:53.000 I know you have as well.

00:07:54.000 But this is very basic stuff.

00:07:59.000 Let's go to cut nine. 0.68

00:08:00.000 Help can't come soon enough.

00:08:02.000 Eight states have more than 50% of formula out of stock.

00:08:05.000 Play cut nine.

00:08:07.000 Can't come soon enough for new parents from coast to coast.

00:08:10.000 It's hard.

00:08:11.000 It's really hard.

00:08:12.000 It's sad.

00:08:13.000 It's scary.

00:08:14.000 I mean, it's super scary.

00:08:16.000 It's the only thing she can eat.

00:08:17.000 My husband's running to three or four different stores just trying to find something.

00:08:21.000 An average 43% of formula varieties are unavailable nationwide.

00:08:26.000 And eight states plus D.C. have more than 50% of various kinds of formula out of stock.

00:08:33.000 50% of kinds of formula out of stock.

00:08:36.000 Cut one, Jake Tapper teeing off on the Biden administration over the baby formula shortage.

00:08:41.000 Play cut one.

00:08:42.000 This is hardly the first time that there's this slow-rolling anticipated disaster happening exactly as forewarned, whether it's the exit from Afghanistan, the border surge.

00:08:52.000 The Biden administration does not want to call this a crisis.

00:08:55.000 You just called it a crisis.

00:08:56.000 It's a crisis, right?

00:08:59.000 I mean, I think if you're a parent that can't get formula for your kid, it's a crisis.

00:09:05.000 Of course, it's a crisis.

00:09:06.000 The Biden regime has found a way to further irritate American parents, not just the double digits they're paying more inflation, not just the sometimes triple digits to go fill up a tank of gas, not just the deteriorating public schools and the CRT and the nonsense that's happening in our schools, but now the inability to be able to feed their babies.

00:09:27.000 Look, we've known for a while that this regime does not have a pro-family focus.

00:09:32.000 If you look very carefully and you kind of look at the messaging, basically the only solution the left has for the baby formula problem is just to go have more abortions.

00:09:41.000 That's basically the only solution that they're putting forward.

00:09:45.000 It's like, well, we just need less people, I suppose, like just have more abortions.

00:09:50.000 Besides that, there is no solution.

00:09:51.000 Why doesn't Joe Biden invoke the Defense Production Act to go create more baby formula?

00:09:58.000 Why wouldn't Joe Biden do that?

00:10:00.000 Joe Biden laughs and scoffs at it.

00:10:02.000 He says, well, look, if we were mind readers, we could have saw this coming.

00:10:06.000 He said, if we could have saw in the future, well, but your own government shut down the baby formula plants and you guys didn't think this through.

00:10:13.000 Of course they don't. 1.00

00:10:14.000 We're being run by clowns. 0.99

00:10:15.000 You know that. 0.98

00:10:16.000 The very same clowns that want to further implicate us in the war in Ukraine, which is exactly why we shouldn't get involved. 0.96

00:10:21.000 These people don't know what they're doing. 0.96

00:10:22.000 You shouldn't trust them with anything.

00:10:24.000 Nothing significant.

00:10:25.000 They keep our border wide open.

00:10:27.000 They can't do the most basic things our government is supposed to do.

00:10:31.000 And we're supposed to go push more power to these people.

00:10:33.000 We're supposed to give them the ability to be able to go declare war on a nuclear power. 0.92

00:10:40.000 They can't get baby formula to people.

00:10:42.000 And some people say, well, it's not the government's role.

00:10:44.000 It's the government that shut down the factory and we were dependent on Abbott because Abbott has some of the most talented lobbyists in Washington, D.C., being a very, very valuable company.

00:10:55.000 Now your child can't get baby formula.

00:11:00.000 Pay very close attention, everybody.

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00:12:02.000 So, do you trust the school you send your child to?

00:12:06.000 Do you think they are doing what they say they are doing?

00:12:10.000 Well, as we talk more about the parents' party, of course, the Democrats are the pervert party, it's become more and more clear. 0.57

00:12:17.000 We should ask questions about our local institutions, schools, communities.

00:12:23.000 So, here's a new clip that has been surfaced.

00:12:25.000 On elementary, it's a longer clip, but it's an elementary school teacher group bragging about how they ignore parents' requests to refer to their children by their given names and pronouns.

00:12:38.000 Look, there are some phenomenal teachers out there, there are some great teachers.

00:12:44.000 It just so happens that there are some really bad teachers, too.

00:12:49.000 In fact, I would say there's a disproportionate amount of bad people that decide to be teachers.

00:12:54.000 That doesn't mean there's not awesome teachers.

00:12:55.000 We have some that listen to this program.

00:12:57.000 God bless you. 0.99

00:12:58.000 But there's some real scumbags that decide to become teachers. 0.98

00:13:02.000 And it's a mixed bag, like all things in life. 0.97

00:13:05.000 But why we're not able to fire these people because of this antiquated tenure system?

00:13:13.000 So, these are elementary school teachers bragging about how they just ignore parents.

00:13:19.000 Whose children are they exactly?

00:13:23.000 Democrats are playing with some very, very tricky things here.

00:13:27.000 Not being able to get baby formula to mothers and outwardly ignoring parents' requests on what to call children.

00:13:34.000 Have they thought through how this is exactly going to play out?

00:13:39.000 I don't think they care.

00:13:40.000 I really don't.

00:13:41.000 Play cut 14.

00:13:43.000 Caregivers asked, I actually referred to their child's name in an IEP meeting, using the name that the child had asked to be referred to and their chosen pronouns.

00:13:57.000 And the caregivers reacted really strongly and then followed up with me and the principal and said, I noticed that you were using a different name than my child's given name at work at birth and the pronouns that we gave them.

00:14:09.000 And I'm respectfully asking that you use the name and the pronouns that we gave them.

00:14:14.000 I chose my words carefully and I said, I hear you.

00:14:18.000 I hear what you're saying.

00:14:20.000 And I tried to really like affirm what the caregiver was asking me.

00:14:25.000 In my classroom, I will refer to your child by whatever name and pronouns that they've told me they feel most comfortable with.

00:14:32.000 I just told them no, like respectfully, no.

00:14:37.000 And because I had my principal and my super support, there wasn't much they could do.

00:14:46.000 Yeah, I mean, who's to say that parents actually know what they're doing?

00:14:49.000 If you send your child to a public school, teachers will privately be bragging and celebrating that they're actually in charge.

00:14:58.000 Do you notice they don't call them parents?

00:15:00.000 They call them caregivers.

00:15:04.000 They don't call them parents.

00:15:07.000 They call them people that are just temporarily guiding them.

00:15:14.000 Every mark of a tyranny or a mark of a tyranny is to break the bond between a parent and a child.

00:15:21.000 This is one of the reasons why the baby formula thing doesn't actually bother them.

00:15:25.000 Strong families are a bulwark against totalitarianism.

00:15:31.000 Now, this was a Zoom meeting held April 26th, and it was how these teachers were bragging about how to ignore their parents' requests over pronoun use.

00:15:43.000 This is a fellow panelist, a fifth-grade teacher from Massachusetts, who, yes, that was their real voice.

00:15:50.000 Hard to believe.

00:15:51.000 The educator then proceeded to describe instances where he ignored parents' requests to call their child by certain pronouns.

00:16:01.000 With us is an exceptional American, one of my all-time favorite people in public life, someone who has lived an incredible life and is an articulate and wise voice for how we actually solve some of these problems in our country.

00:16:18.000 He is the author of the phenomenal new book that we have up on our beautiful new screen here: Created Equal: The Painful Past, Confusing Present, and Hopeful Future of Race in America by Dr. Ben Carson.

00:16:31.000 Dr. Carson, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:16:33.000 Thank you so much for having me, Charlie, and thanks for being a patriot.

00:16:36.000 Thank you.

00:16:37.000 So, Dr. Carson, talk about this book.

00:16:39.000 You and I had a phone call a couple weeks ago, and you just said something that really resonated with me.

00:16:43.000 I thought about it since our conversation.

00:16:45.000 You said, We have to fix this race problem because it's going to be our undoing. 1.00

00:16:50.000 Can you elaborate on that and talk about the book?

00:16:53.000 Well, you know, the reason I wrote the book is because you'll probably notice the last few years, everything seems to circle back to race, whether it has anything to do with it or not.

00:17:03.000 And people are using the race issue as a codgel to beat people into submission, to make white people feel guilty, to make black people feel like victims, and other minorities to feel like victims, and just splitting us apart.

00:17:19.000 Why is that important?

00:17:21.000 The United States of America has been such an important stabilizing force in the world.

00:17:26.000 Before we became a great power, there were all these despots all over the world stamping, stomping on anybody who was weaker than them and taking advantage of them.

00:17:37.000 And that moderated to a significant degree when we were very strong.

00:17:43.000 Now, as we're getting weak again, you can see the despot's starting to rise up again.

00:17:47.000 It's very, very problematic.

00:17:50.000 But the interesting thing that is going on is people are trying to make it seem like the race relations in our country are deteriorating, are getting worse, and they're creating a lot of problems.

00:18:04.000 And in a way, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy because if you teach our children that the most important determinant of what happens in their lives is the color of their skin, obviously you are going to create some resentment.

00:18:19.000 You know, a friend of mine's granddaughter came home not long ago crying and said, Grandpa, am I evil because I'm white?

00:18:28.000 She was eight years old.

00:18:29.000 Where are they getting that stuff from?

00:18:31.000 Obviously, they're getting it from school.

00:18:33.000 This is very damaging to children as they're trying to develop their self-image.

00:18:38.000 And they're also being told you might not be a girl or a boy.

00:18:41.000 You know, these are very damaging things for young people who are simply trying to grow up and become normal individuals.

00:18:48.000 It's not going to happen unless we become very, very proactive and get involved.

00:18:54.000 And then this whole white guilt thing, you've got to realize the impact of that.

00:18:59.000 If you can get a whole bunch of people feeling guilty, then they're not likely to say as much about defund the police or about letting violent criminals out to terrorize your neighborhood or not securing your southern border because they don't want you to call them bad names and they just sit in the corner with their head down.

00:19:18.000 This is just awful that's going on, but we see the impact of it.

00:19:23.000 And then if you can convince minorities that they're victims, if you think you're a victim, you are a victim. 0.72

00:19:30.000 And it's so unnecessary.

00:19:33.000 And then just to conclude this thought, you know, just in my lifetime, there's been such a dramatic change in this country.

00:19:42.000 When I was a youngster, it was a big deal when a black person came on television in a non-servile role.

00:19:49.000 You called everybody into the living room to look at it.

00:19:52.000 This was something. 0.95

00:19:54.000 And now that would be ridiculous. 0.92

00:19:56.000 Now we have black admirals and generals and CEOs of Fortune 500 companies and heads of foundations, heads of colleges, even Ivy League schools. 0.97

00:20:08.000 We've elected a black president twice.

00:20:10.000 We have a black vice president.

00:20:12.000 I mean, this is all just in my lifetime.

00:20:15.000 It is an absolute amazing transition.

00:20:19.000 And yet there are those who are trying to say, hey, the United States is evil, systemically racist.

00:20:24.000 If it were, why would people be forming caravans trying to get in here?

00:20:28.000 You know, they would, and as soon as they got here, they'd call all their friends and say, don't come here.

00:20:32.000 That's not what's happening.

00:20:34.000 And what the left is trying to convince people of, don't believe what you see.

00:20:39.000 Don't believe what you hear.

00:20:41.000 Don't believe what your heart tells you.

00:20:43.000 Just listen to us.

00:20:44.000 We will tell you what to believe.

00:20:47.000 I mean, there's so much there to unpack that I think is important.

00:20:51.000 And I kind of want to zero in on one thing you said, which is that by every objective measurement, you know, America racially has been now more integrated, has more success for people of any background, if they so choose, to apply themselves in a way that we know success can, you know, the affluence curve can, you know, reach people of any background.

00:21:15.000 And yet we're talking about race more than ever before.

00:21:18.000 I'm kind of really over it.

00:21:19.000 I'll be very honest, you know, because anytime that I talk about how we should be colorblind and respect people for their soul and their spirit and their character and their choices, they're saying that is a white supremacist construct, right?

00:21:35.000 And so what motivates this?

00:21:37.000 I mean, what motivates the, and I'm going to make sure I get this right.

00:21:41.000 I believe it was the Smithsonian Museum, the African American Historical Museum.

00:21:45.000 You probably remember this two summers ago that came out post-George Floyd and said that being on time and talking properly and mathematics are all part of white colonialist, white supremacist, white Eurocentric culture.

00:22:00.000 I mean, there's got to be a breaking point for this, right, Doctor?

00:22:03.000 It's incredible.

00:22:04.000 Even when I was in high school, you know, it was people going around saying, you're trying to act white, you know, because I was a good student, you know, and I got good grades and I did all the appropriate things.

00:22:18.000 And I would always shut them up by saying, well, dealing with all those things as being white, then what's being black?

00:22:24.000 Of course, they never had a good answer for that.

00:22:27.000 But, you know, what's interesting today is we have this wealth gap and it is real.

00:22:33.000 You know, five to 10x white families versus black families in this country.

00:22:38.000 However, if you look at Nigerian black families, Ghanaian black families in America, there's no wealth gap.

00:22:48.000 Isn't that interesting?

00:22:49.000 And what is it about those families?

00:22:51.000 You go to a Nigerian family, you'll find that a bachelor's degree is the baseline.

00:22:57.000 There's such an emphasis on education and on family structure.

00:23:02.000 But if you look at traditional black American families where those values are very important, education and family, you also find that there's little or no wealth gap.

00:23:14.000 So is it possible that maybe we're looking at the wrong things?

00:23:18.000 Maybe we're blaming the wrong things.

00:23:21.000 I think that's so smart.

00:23:23.000 And so there was an article I read recently that made an argument that the big, that the people at the top levels of society, you know, that they have traded the kind of need for luxury goods for something called a luxury belief, which is something that you could say at a cocktail party or say to your friends or family.

00:23:43.000 You don't actually believe it deep down, but it kind of sounds cool.

00:23:46.000 Like, oh, America's systemically racist or defund the police, even though the people that say that would never want to live under that.

00:23:52.000 And to be not to overly racialize this, but these are mostly upper-middle-class white liberals.

00:23:58.000 And do you find actually that a lot of this racial conversation absent kind of the Ibermax Kendi people and all that, but it's actually driven.

00:24:06.000 In fact, the oxygen is really driven by upper middle class white people and less of kind of the grassroots of Black America that just care about raising their kids and having a better life.

00:24:17.000 Do you find that to be true?

00:24:19.000 Oh, absolutely true.

00:24:20.000 And a lot of them are liberal white individuals who, to me, manifest racism more than almost anybody because they're the ones who try to determine what being black is. 0.81

00:24:35.000 You know, when President Biden said, if you have trouble deciding between me and Donald Trump, you ain't black, that's about the most racist statement I've ever heard. 0.87

00:24:45.000 And they're always trying to determine, you know, what you're supposed to think. 0.98

00:24:50.000 And if you don't think that, and if you don't act that way, you're a race traitor, you know, you're Uncle Tom.

00:24:56.000 I mean, it is unbelievable.

00:24:58.000 And they can't even see it. 0.98

00:25:01.000 They're so far gone, they don't even see how hypocritical they are. 0.97

00:25:06.000 Yeah.

00:25:07.000 And so let's talk about your book, Created Equal.

00:25:09.000 How do we solve this?

00:25:11.000 I certainly haven't figured it out because I'm getting increasingly frustrated with it.

00:25:16.000 What's our path forward towards the country I grew up in, Doctor, where we didn't talk about race all the time?

00:25:21.000 Absolutely.

00:25:22.000 Well, I think we have to offer alternatives.

00:25:25.000 Now, recognize the Bible says in Proverbs 22:6: train up a child in the way he should go when he's old, he'll not depart from it.

00:25:34.000 We can't cede the teaching of our children to those who want to fundamentally change our country. 0.99

00:25:41.000 We have to provide very good alternatives.

00:25:44.000 One of the things that we do at American Cornerstone through our little Patriots program is we have an online learning program, free of charge, by the way, because of generous sponsors, which teaches them about our Constitution, our Bill of Rights, our foundational principles, faith, liberty, community, and life.

00:26:07.000 Has a little ego called Liberty Eagle, who's the guide.

00:26:11.000 Liberty Eagle, by the way, has a left wing and a right wing.

00:26:15.000 Can't fly with a left wing, with two left wings or two right wings.

00:26:19.000 Got to learn how to get along together.

00:26:21.000 We've got to learn how to talk to each other.

00:26:24.000 And one of the points that I bring out very strongly in the book is that we have a choice to make.

00:26:32.000 Are we going to build our future on our past failings or are we going to build our future on our great successes?

00:26:42.000 We get to make that choice.

00:26:43.000 Obviously, if we look at our successes and don't throw away our failures, but we learn from our failures, we're going to go much further and much faster.

00:26:54.000 But if we continue to look back and say, you did this to me, therefore we ended, you know, how is that ever going to lead us to a good place?

00:27:03.000 It can't possibly.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, and it's not, you know, the other side will say, well, it's about self-examination.

00:27:08.000 Like, no, it's not.

00:27:09.000 It's like about self-laceration at this point, is what it is.

00:27:12.000 It's like, please.

00:27:17.000 Now, I just want to say, if we can just stop for a moment and think about who we are as human beings and think about this magnificent thing we have that's called the human brain.

00:27:30.000 It's the most fantastic organ system in the universe.

00:27:34.000 Billions and billions of neurons, hundreds of billions of interconnections can process more than 2 million bits of information in one second.

00:27:42.000 Now, interestingly, if you take a human brain and you put it next to an animal, just say a dog, both of their brains topographically look similar.

00:27:51.000 Frontal lobes, parietal lobes, temporal lobes, occipital lobes, cerebellum, brainstem, midbrain.

00:27:57.000 However, the midbrain of the dog, it's much better developed than the human midbrain.

00:28:02.000 What does the midbrain allow you to do?

00:28:04.000 To react, to look at something and react to it.

00:28:08.000 And that's why animals react a whole lot faster, cat-like reflexes.

00:28:11.000 But people have much bigger, better developed frontal lobes where you engage in rational thought processing, extracting information from the past and present, integrating it to a plan, projecting it into the future, planning, strategizes, analyzing.

00:28:27.000 And that's why we don't have to act like animals and just look at somebody's skin color and react to it.

00:28:34.000 God has given us much higher processing capabilities than that.

00:28:39.000 And why would we be teaching our children to act like animals?

00:28:43.000 That's so smart.

00:28:44.000 So Dr. Carson, I went to a public high school in the suburbs of Chicago called Wheeling High School.

00:28:48.000 It was 53% Hispanic English as a second language.

00:28:52.000 And so I grew up as a minority in the high school in the general population, and no one talked about race.

00:28:58.000 No one cared about it.

00:28:59.000 In fact, if anyone said anything that might have been racially insensitive, there was kind of a natural check and balance system.

00:29:04.000 People say, hey, stop that.

00:29:04.000 That's not cool.

00:29:05.000 And we kind of moved on.

00:29:06.000 We cared about what you wanted to do with your life, your character, kind of your soul, your spirit.

00:29:11.000 How did we lose that, Dr. Carson, in 10 years?

00:29:14.000 10 years ago.

00:29:15.000 I had my high school graduation.

00:29:16.000 I feel like it's a totally different country.

00:29:18.000 Well, we don't talk about it anymore.

00:29:20.000 I remember going to south side of Chicago, Wendell Phillips High School, and one of the banks had purchased copies of Gifted Hands, my first book, for all the students.

00:29:32.000 When I walked in there, you would have thought Michael Jerickson came in there.

00:29:35.000 They were so excited.

00:29:37.000 But I talked about what happens to the nerd in life and what happens to the cool guy.

00:29:44.000 At first, everybody wanted to be a cool guy.

00:29:45.000 By the end of the lecture, everybody wanted to be a nerd.

00:29:49.000 Because, you know, we don't talk about what are the consequences of the things that you do in life.

00:29:56.000 And so many of the lessons, the valuable lessons that we used to teach children, you're not supposed to talk about that stuff anymore.

00:30:04.000 Maybe it has some kind of religious or moral overtone and everything is equal now.

00:30:10.000 Therefore, you can't advocate one thing over another.

00:30:14.000 But think about something like families, the family structure.

00:30:21.000 And black families in America, children who grew up with only a mother, 45% poverty rate.

00:30:32.000 Only a father, 36% poverty rate.

00:30:37.000 Both a mother and a father, 12% poverty rate.

00:30:42.000 That's pretty dramatic.

00:30:44.000 So to say that there's no difference, that every situation is exactly the same, actually is not borne out when you look at the statistics.

00:30:53.000 Also, when you're looking at poverty, there was a very well-known study done by the Brookings Institute that said that there are three things that you can do to reduce your likelihood of living in poverty to 2% to 3% or less.

00:31:09.000 Number one, finish high school.

00:31:11.000 Number two, get married.

00:31:14.000 Number three, wait until you're married to have children. 1.00

00:31:16.000 You know, we used to know that.

00:31:18.000 That was almost like natural information.

00:31:21.000 And now it's a big deal.

00:31:22.000 People has become controversial.

00:31:25.000 But, you know, it doesn't matter what color you are, it doesn't matter any of those things.

00:31:29.000 Just do those things.

00:31:31.000 And what we need to get back to is the American can-do attitude.

00:31:37.000 Not making excuses.

00:31:39.000 I'll tell you, my mother was probably the wisest person I ever knew.

00:31:43.000 She had less than a third grade education, got married at age 13, had to work very hard.

00:31:49.000 But the thing about her, and perhaps the most valuable thing she passed on to me, my brother, don't make excuses.

00:31:57.000 And anytime we made an excuse for anything, the next thing out of her mouth was a poem called Yourself to Blame. 0.95

00:32:04.000 And the next question out of her mouth was, do you have a brain?

00:32:07.000 And if the answer was yes, then you could have thought your way out of it.

00:32:11.000 It doesn't matter what Mary or Susan or Bob or anybody else said or did.

00:32:16.000 And when you grow up that way, it makes a profound difference.

00:32:19.000 And that's the way it used to be in America when we had the can-do attitude, which is rapidly being replaced with the what can do for me attitude.

00:32:29.000 And it's very detrimental.

00:32:30.000 And I think we have to talk about it and we have to be forceful about it.

00:32:34.000 And we have to present the data and the facts.

00:32:37.000 Otherwise, you know, the left will manage to convince people otherwise.

00:32:42.000 That's so smart.

00:32:43.000 And it's getting even worse than that, which is people want revenge now, which is even worse.

00:32:49.000 And that's worse than wanting stuff.

00:32:50.000 They want almost revenge for something that wasn't even done to them.

00:32:54.000 Dr. Carson, it's called Created Equal.

00:32:56.000 Just anything else about the book you want us to know?

00:32:58.000 I just want people to take away the fact that we, the American people, are not each other's enemies.

00:33:04.000 And we have to stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated into thinking that we're enemies.

00:33:10.000 It's the only thing that will completely destroy our nation.

00:33:14.000 A house divided against itself cannot stand.

00:33:17.000 Jesus said it.

00:33:18.000 It was repeated by Abraham Lincoln.

00:33:20.000 And it's as true today as it was then.

00:33:23.000 Amen.

00:33:24.000 Dr. Carson, author of the phenomenal new book, Created Equal.

00:33:27.000 Everyone, go pick up a copy.

00:33:28.000 Dr. Carson, thank you so much.

00:33:30.000 Thanks for having me.

00:33:31.000 Thank you.

00:33:32.000 Great to see you.

00:33:33.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - May 17, 2022

Prescribing America’s Race Relations Regression with Dr. Ben Carson

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