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00:01:13.000So in just a second, we'll be joined by the great Candace Owens to talk about a separate topic, which is the Project Veritas topic.
00:01:20.000I've been texting with Candace, and we're both equally fired up about how James has been treated and has now been kicked out of Project Veritas.
00:01:29.000We had an entire hour conversation with Steve Bannon yesterday about Project Veritas and what is happening with James O'Keefe.
00:01:37.000James, who founded Project Veritas, has now been kicked out of his own organization on some real ticky-tack stuff, I got to tell you.
00:01:44.000And I have spent a lot of time on the phone and asking if there's something else that I'm missing.
00:01:49.000And we had the documents here yesterday, but the long and short of it is like, oh, well, we don't like how many black cars that you took, even though that they were for business.
00:02:19.000But the question is, is the country in a better place if James O'Keefe is then and put in exile and has to go start his own organization?
00:02:27.000No, it is just so wrong on so many levels that a founder of an organization slaves over it for 10 years, posts massive wins.
00:02:41.000Again, it's not like James O'Keefe was just shuffling papers around and writing stuff in journals that no one actually reads.
00:02:47.000He was out in the trenches capturing people on video, exposing some of the darkest deeds of deceit and treachery in our entire society and did it time and time and time again.
00:03:12.000Remember the Hillary Clinton campaign?
00:03:14.000Remember Project Veritas action back in the 2016 Donald Trump presidential campaign?
00:03:19.000James O'Keefe was able to get Jan Schakowski's husband, the union organizer, on camera saying that they have paid thugs going to Trump rallies.
00:04:46.000I mean, the backstabbing, it is a tragedy.
00:04:49.000I mean, for me, it felt strangely personal just because when I was really coming up in this movement, James O'Keefe was one of the first people that I met.
00:04:56.000I like so vividly remember him speaking down at the Horowitz Freedom Center when I met you that first time.
00:05:03.000And he was just such an incredible person, so impressive.
00:05:07.000And one of the things that's really left a mark on me is that he doesn't dabble in the dark side of politics.
00:05:13.000What I mean by that is that he's not one of these DC people that you see drunk, that you would see drunk every night at the Trump Hotel when Trump was in office.
00:05:23.000He's so professional and he's well liked by everybody for a reason.
00:05:27.000And so when you watch somebody build something like Project Veritas from the ground up, and then once it's up, you see people that are so conniving and backstabbing and willing to essentially put things in the public that just look petty.
00:05:42.000I mean, talking about they actually went, I mean, whoever leaked to the Daily Beast, talked about petty and slimy leaking to William Sommer of the Daily Beast, who's one of the most despicable people at the Daily Beast, which is a despicable publication, that he once took a sandwich and ate it from a woman that was eight months pregnant.
00:06:03.000Leaking the financials and I guess hoping that people are so ignorant that they would think that $60,000 spent on a corporate event that's entitled The Project Veritas Experience, an event that I was invited to, you know, so that employees can relax.
00:06:18.000You want employees to be able to relax and to enjoy the atmosphere, especially given how under pressure employees of Project Veritas are.
00:06:27.000We watched James O'Keefe be dragged out of his home in the middle of the night wearing boxers.
00:06:32.000I think I'm okay as somebody who personally donates a lot of money to Project Veritas, as I do.
00:06:38.000I'm okay with James O'Keefe letting loose at a $60,000 party for him and his employees.
00:06:56.000You know, I think a lot of people are starting to ask questions because it's just, it's such an incredibly stupid move, right?
00:07:03.000And to think that they were just going to pull one over, take his company, and people were just going to trust the Project Veritas brand that they had made the right decision without some heavy allegation, which is what I think I was waiting for.
00:07:15.000I thought if they did something this outrageous, they're going to release some information about James O'Keefe that's even going to move me to their side.
00:07:23.000Instead, they release these petty grievances.
00:07:25.000I mean, essentially, they employed the tactic of show me the man, I'll show you the crime.
00:08:15.000I called my husband and I said, make sure we never give a single rent set.
00:08:18.000They are one of two organizations I actually give a lot of money to.
00:08:22.000And so I was personally affected by it because I know James personally, financially impacted by it, because now I instantly said, I'm pulling that money and we're going to give it to somebody else.
00:08:32.000And that money will follow James O'Keefe wherever he goes.
00:08:35.000So it was a foolish decision made by probably a few board members who didn't like him.
00:08:55.000Yeah, they're going to show the world why they hate people on Wall Street, right?
00:09:00.000What people think they can do when they feel that they have enough power amassed and they no longer have to listen to people.
00:09:05.000They don't have to listen to their customers, so to speak.
00:09:08.000They don't have to listen to their donors because we're so big and we're so bad and we're so recognized that despite the fact that people are genuinely upset by this, we don't have to worry about it because we've amassed a lot of power for ourselves.
00:09:20.000That's exactly the wrong thing, but the wrong group.
00:09:22.000People that support Project Veritas are the people who hate these sort of unchecked power structures, right?
00:09:28.000And so I think what they're going to run up against is a wall.
00:09:32.000They're going to see that because James O'Keefe is so well respected and so liked, as he should be, because he's so hardworking and he built this location from the ground up, at personal risk to himself, by the way, because it's exceptional, right?
00:09:44.000We, you and I have organizations that we run.
00:09:47.000They are not at such a tremendous personal risk.
00:09:50.000James O'Keefe could go to prison, right?
00:09:53.000Because the FBI and the DOJ have it out for him.
00:10:09.000James O'Keefe, please reappear and let us know where you want to send the funds to because I'd rather be a small organization that we can actually trust.
00:10:17.000And we cannot trust one that wheels and deals behind the backs of its own founder and chief executive officer.
00:10:23.000And we'll support James in whatever he does.
00:10:26.000The very same people that shut down all of our factories the last 30 years, the merger and acquisition, McKinsey types, came and swooped in and they did a hostile takeover where they buy a manufacturing company in Ohio and they say, oh, sorry, we're sending it to Wuhan, China.
00:10:39.000And they thought that they could do that to Project Veritas.
00:10:43.000We're not going to put up with this kind of corporate Raider, Wall Street, Harvard-educated, consultant-elite sort of mentality where, like, oh, well, we can really get more business efficiencies.
00:11:01.000I don't care how many consultants you staff it with.
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00:12:18.000James O'Keefe would have an HBO show right now doing the types of things that he does if he was doing the things that he does against right of center entities.
00:12:31.000The left, who doesn't really believe in rules in the first place, tries to create rules that only people on the right have to live by.
00:13:08.000I would love to take a look at exactly who is sitting on his board and how he arrived at those decisions, because it does seem like there seems to be something more nefarious going on.
00:13:18.000Because I could see one or two people being like, I don't like him as a person.
00:13:23.000And, you know, we talked about how, you know, he's frustrated, he's angry.
00:13:26.000How would you feel if you woke up every day and the Department of Justice is trying to put you behind, put you behind bars?
00:13:33.000I mean, it's so ridiculous to think that he's supposed to be cheery and not paranoid and not concerned about who's working for him, knowing that the Department of Justice is working against him.
00:13:43.000So there does seem to me to be something more behind this.
00:13:47.000And I think that with time, we're going to learn more because James is speaking out.
00:13:51.000I mean, there's nothing more heroic than him refusing to sign a severance, which let me suggest to every single person: if something like this at this capacity goes on, you don't sign that severance.
00:14:03.000He needs to do exactly what he did and speak about what happened so people can understand what's going on because a threat to Project Veritas obviously is a threat to all of us, right?
00:14:14.000They are the troops on the ground when you really think about it.
00:14:18.000And to, as you mentioned previously, to embed themselves in Pfizer at a time when globally, globally, you weren't even allowed to say anything against Pfizer online without having your entire livelihood threatened, without being threatened to be deplatformed, without having your account suspended.
00:14:36.000And he was embedding individuals in Pfizer, speaking to employees at Pfizer and getting them to release information about the vaccine in which our government was insisting that every single person get.
00:14:48.000There's nothing the board can do about that.
00:14:51.000And shame on them for being so arrogant to assume that they were going to be able to persuade the public onto their side by releasing what really amounted to just petty group $14,000 in a private jet.
00:15:05.000I've looked at that and I said, what was it?
00:15:07.000I mean, I don't even understand $14,000 on a private jet doesn't even make sense to me.
00:15:12.000And again, he is someone that, as a donor, I am totally fine with James O'Keefe, who is hated by the Department of Justice, to be flying around private.
00:15:21.000I am happy for him to be taking Black cars.
00:15:23.000I assumed James O'Keefe would be taking Black cars.
00:15:25.000One thing that I said when I covered that thing, $150,000 across 18 months on Black cars.
00:15:32.000Yeah, my advice to him would be to get a full-time driver for the same price.
00:16:01.000And the fact that you get a black car, like get over yourself, you could Monday morning quarterback from your armchair because you travel 20 days a year.
00:16:12.000And people that haven't worked at that pace don't understand it.
00:16:15.000And this, again, sacrifices that are being made.
00:16:17.000James O'Keefe has never been married, doesn't have any children.
00:16:20.000You know, when I got married and I had children, I started saying it's not worth it for me to travel publicly to, I don't give, you know, I barely give any speeches anymore because of this reason, because I don't want to lose a night with my kids, two nights with my kids, you know, traveling all across America.
00:16:45.000And I say yes to that, not because I'm a brat, but because I have a family now.
00:16:48.000And so people just need to understand the sacrifices that he is making day in and day out and to appreciate the fact that he deserves honestly much more than a driver and a few occasional private planes.
00:17:00.000You know, I mean, I don't understand what the problem is here.
00:17:02.000Again, he built this organization from the ground up.
00:17:04.000And there were a lot of other things that they had on there that just seemed so petty.
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00:19:12.000You know, I got to tell you, Charlie, it is almost inconceivable to think that it can keep getting worse, but it gets worse by the month.
00:19:21.000And this administration is doing things to distract.
00:19:23.000So, for instance, they're going to tell you that, well, the encounters between the ports of entry went down significantly last month.
00:19:30.000But the reason why is because they're funneling people through a parole program, which is contrary to U.S. law, and getting them into the, they're going through ports of entry, trying to get him there.
00:20:16.000The sector chiefs, these are in the Biden administration sector chiefs.
00:20:20.000They themselves admit the southwest border, which is from McAllen, Texas to San Diego, is controlled not by U.S., not by our own sovereign forces, but by the cartels.
00:20:33.000And Charlie, this, you know, we could talk ad nauseum, you know, almost infinitely about how bad this situation is.
00:21:03.000First thing you need to know about the cartels, they're crime families, highly organized, more ruthless than the mafia ever thought about being.
00:21:12.000And there's right now there's a, and they fight for what we call a plaza.
00:21:33.000So last week, I got a friend sent me a picture of a shootout in San Luis, Arizona, which is just across from San Luis, Mexico, which is just across from San Luis, Arizona.
00:21:59.000I got a briefing four years ago that told me there was not a community of any size in this country that did not have a Mexican cartel presence there.
00:22:09.000That's to facilitate the illegal immigrants, the human trafficking, the sex trafficking, and the drug trafficking.
00:22:15.000So this might be too deep, but I'm just curious.
00:22:18.000So every clandestine criminal operation needs some sort of front-facing legal enterprise to launder their money and or have some sort of proxy conduit to legitimate politics and business.
00:22:46.000What you're seeing, though, is since most of the transaction, the money transactions taking place across the border, they're getting the lion's share of it there.
00:22:55.000But when they come here, they're using employment.
00:22:57.000So they're placing these people in employment in what may otherwise have been legitimate businesses.
00:23:04.000They're giving them fraudulent documentation to go in there.
00:23:07.000Then you also have the illegal actors.
00:23:10.000So just so you know, just a week ago, some of the meat packers were caught up and they had these children, illegal alien children, unaccompanied minors who had come over.
00:23:23.000And I think the youngest was age 11, and they were bringing these kids in to do cleanup work after hours.
00:23:32.000So we have legitimate U.S. businesses that are facilitating this, but then you have a lot of it just taking place across the border, but they indenture these people and that's what goes on.
00:23:48.000And the sophistication of the technology that is used, I think when some people think of cartels, they kind of just think as, you know, pedestrian gangbangers in their mind, right?
00:24:00.000No, this is highly sophisticated business people that have been obviously corrupted into the darkest shadows of our civilization.
00:24:10.000But, you know, these are people that are using pinpoint technology.
00:24:14.000They're using like comprehensive logistics to be able to put this through.
00:25:14.000You've got them any, you know, in Houston where these illegal migrants are going, but they control them with the technology that's available today.
00:25:28.000You know, even with, even when you go down to Nogales or the Vical Mountains down there by Casa Grande, they have spotters up there that have high-tech gear and equipment.
00:25:53.000I mean, the elements of our government, they don't seem empowered to try to go break up these cartel rings to try to go find the flow of money.
00:26:02.000It seems like they might do some things on the edges or the fringes.
00:26:06.000I've said for quite some time, and this is just a suspicion, that I think that there are people elected to office in the Democrat Party that are doing a wink and a nod with these cartels via political donations or on-the-ground support.
00:27:14.000And when you talk about drones, the number that was testified to just two weeks ago in Congress in a hearing I was at, I can't even remember.
00:29:10.000You know, Andy, I'll just say this in closing how the Democrats lie.
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00:30:44.000In the distance, out there are some police cars.
00:30:46.000We believe Donald Trump is behind that area there.
00:30:49.000His motorcade should come through in a little while.
00:30:51.000There's a fire department up there, and they're part of an important part of this Ohio disaster story because federal officials in the Biden administration were so late in coming here.
00:31:00.000We're now hearing Pete Buddha Judge is finally going to come tomorrow after Donald Trump is here on the ground.
00:31:06.000But the federal officials are now trying to blame fire department officials, volunteer fire people locally for not following protocols somehow because they're trying to cover up their own mistakes.
00:31:16.000And so you see the police, you might be able to see sirens down there, and there's a long line of people.
00:31:21.000This is Trump country, eastern Ohio, right near the Pennsylvania border.
00:31:25.000And in fact, I want to bring in a patriot here.
00:31:27.000She made a sign, Charlie, that I know you like.
00:31:29.000So, on one side, ma'am, you're Laura, right?
00:35:09.000And when Donald Trump becomes president again, that part of America will be forgotten no longer.
00:35:15.000And him going there shines a light on not just the hypocrisy, but the hierarchy and the cruelty that the current American ruling class has towards the Midwestern muscular class.
00:35:31.000They forgot about them a long time ago.
00:35:32.000They shipped their jobs overseas and they don't like them.
00:35:35.000But there is hope in the heartland again.
00:35:39.000Thanks to Donald Trump and his movement.
00:35:41.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:35:42.000Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:35:46.000Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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