Is the U.S. going to get involved in a war in Iran? Well, we have the USS Nimitz mobilizing, American troops are on guard, President Donald Trump is issuing threats to the supreme leader, we analyze and more.
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00:01:39.000Okay, let's do some updates about Israel and Iran and potentially the United States.
00:01:44.000Right now, there is a mass mobilization underway of U.S. aircraft and the USS Nimitz into the Middle East to be prepared.
00:01:54.000In fact, the president right now, President of the United States, President Trump, is sending up some very serious, He says, quote, We know exactly where the so-called supreme leader is hiding.
00:02:07.000He is an easy target but is safe there.
00:02:58.000And it would potentially require U.S. involvement or what's called bunker-busting bombs, otherwise brokered by B-52 or American bombers.
00:03:10.000Now, in situations like this, it's important to understand that we do not know all the facts or the circumstances or the elements surrounding this.
00:03:18.000President Donald Trump has to make a very important decision.
00:03:22.000Does the United States get involved kinetically against Iran?
00:03:28.000If the United States were to get involved with Iran, you can see all public reports, it looks like there is a mobilization to the region.
00:03:37.000America bombing Iran would be a direct escalation.
00:03:42.000Now, it would not be the same as bombing their oil fields or even bombing the supreme leader.
00:03:49.000The most basic action would be drop a bunker buster on their underground nuclear plant.
00:03:56.000And some people claim that's the only thing we have to do.
00:03:59.000But the cautionary tale that I would say both privately and publicly, and I'm going to Washington, D.C. tomorrow, and I will say this on the show, and I'll say this to anyone that will listen.
00:04:09.000It's very hard to stop a war when you want, and it's hard to stop a war once you're in the midst of a war.
00:04:16.000So let's say that the United States bombs Ford out with bunker-busting bombs, and Iran getting a nuclear weapon.
00:04:26.000You can see how it's changed the geopolitical calculus when North Korea has a nuclear weapon.
00:04:32.000It makes us treat North Korea in a way that we otherwise would not treat it.
00:04:35.000We have to put more time, attention, detail, troops, intelligence, what otherwise would be a third world country, the fact they have a nuclear weapon.
00:04:43.000We have to take them far more seriously.
00:04:46.000If we were to bomb Fordow, Iran would likely and probably consider this to be an act of war.
00:04:54.000Would they respond and try to target U.S. bases?
00:04:57.000Would they try and target U.S. troops?
00:05:00.000Would they activate sleeper cells within the interior of the United States?
00:05:03.000These are all things that President Trump has to factor in.
00:05:07.000On the other side, President Donald Trump has said, I will not allow Iran to get a nuclear weapon because he has said, when crazy people have weapons of unthinkable violence, you have to deal in reality.
00:05:21.000The longer I live, the more I realize that puritanical, ideological approaches to situations like this are not helpful.
00:05:31.000On one side is the Lindsey Graham, John Bolton types, where they are actively calling for regime change.
00:05:39.000Can we play the tape of Lindsey Graham yesterday?
00:05:42.000Who's just, quite honestly, just making a lunatic of himself.
00:06:46.000What you think theoretically is going to occur, there might be unintended and unforeseen consequences, especially when you're talking about a country two and a half times the size of Texas and has 90 million people and was an ancient and great power with well over a dozen ethnic groups.
00:09:48.000It makes Afghanistan and Iraq look like a cakewalk.
00:09:51.000Just look at this beast of a country with all the different regions, all the different dialects.
00:09:56.000And then you have a major refugee concern of Mohammedans that will come to Europe and endanger more Christians than Jews and Mohammedans that will come to America.
00:10:29.000I think it's healthy to have this other extreme more than the neoconservative extreme, because this extreme has been underrepresented in the public dialogue and discourse the last 20 years.
00:10:38.000The other extreme is one that I deep respect and reverence for, because I actually think if we had that other extreme, we would not have invaded Iraq.
00:10:46.000This other extreme is philosophically important.
00:10:50.000Important to consider, and that's the Ron Paul extreme.
00:11:42.000I'm going to keep on building up these two extremes because President Donald Trump actually finds himself in the era methodic mean and a very prudent middle to weigh both options.
00:11:57.000He is not an isolationist nor a neocon.
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00:13:37.000They've done a mess of Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, the entire Middle East, Ukraine.
00:13:42.000We know what the neoconservatives believe.
00:13:45.000I do think hearing out, and honestly, I agree with a lot of the I think isolationist is used as a pejorative, but let's just say restrained community.
00:13:56.000But it doesn't matter what Charlie Kirk believes.
00:14:00.000Let me tell you what President Trump has in front of him.
00:14:03.000And this is the stuff of which statesmen are made.
00:14:07.000A statesman is a man at the highest moment when you have the weight of the shoulders, like Churchill or Lincoln, of the world on your shoulders, you act with prudence and not on ideological fervor.
00:14:20.000President Donald Trump is a man made for this moment.
00:14:23.000This is why President Trump was elected President of the United States.
00:14:28.000So on one side, he's getting phone calls from Lindsey Graham.
00:14:33.000Mr. President, we need to invade Iran and liberate the mullahs.
00:14:43.000That was an administration ender for George W. Bush.
00:14:46.000And the more that we remind people about Iraq and Afghanistan, I actually think it allows us towards a healthy way of viewing what's happening in Iran.
00:14:57.000And then the other side, which is the online MAGA base, especially the younger MAGA base, is very against U.S. involvement in Iran.
00:15:14.000We've known nothing but quagmire, lies, deception, intel agencies that have spied on Trump, intel agencies that lied about weapons of mass destruction, intel agencies that misled us about Libya, intel agencies that led us about almost every single corner of the region.
00:16:52.000Easy to say, oh, why is it you are even mobilizing?
00:16:59.000The USS Nimitz, and we have no idea how this is going to work out, but I encourage you, as you view the next couple of days, to not view things overly ideological.
00:17:09.000In fact, we should resist ideological fervor.
00:18:07.000Not just recently, but he ran on it for a decade.
00:18:10.000And both these things can simultaneously be true only thanks to the real politic approach of President Donald Trump and the MAGA agenda, a book that I wrote.
00:18:22.000These two things he said 10 years ago.
00:18:24.000Iraq war was a bloody catastrophe and a disaster, and it will never happen again, and Iran cannot get a nuclear weapon.
00:18:31.000Only President Donald Trump can hold both those things in his hands.
00:18:36.000Only President Trump, with prudence and practicality and wisdom, is able to weigh them both, thread the needle, and walk the tightrope.
00:18:45.000President Donald Trump is a man made for this moment, and we should trust him.
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00:19:53.000We have with us a great man from Oklahoma, Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who is the liaison between the House and the Senate for the big, beautiful bill.
00:20:00.000We're also going to ask about Israel and Iran as well.
00:20:24.000I want you to understand what you brought up, Nimitz, repositioning.
00:20:27.000The president's posture here is the one word we need to take away is deterrence.
00:20:31.000The president is trying to prevent an all-out war by deterrence, peace through strength, which I think is very important here.
00:20:38.000As far as Israel, I think Israel is doing everybody in that entire region.
00:20:44.000I don't care if you're Egypt or you're Egypt.
00:20:54.000I don't care who you are, if you're in that region, you do not want the Iranians to have a nuclear weapon because they will kick off a nuclear war if they have it.
00:21:06.000So Israel's doing them a favor by taking the fight to them.
00:21:09.000And I think they're doing a great job.
00:21:15.000So you think about it that the Iranians, So they fight proxy wars, and they fight proxy wars with Hamas, Houthis, and Hezbollah.
00:21:31.000And over the last year and a half, I mean, literally, Israel has decimated every one of them.
00:21:38.000And then they took out their air defense.
00:21:40.000Which Israel now controls the air defense over Iran, showing that they were just simply loud mouths, not able to back up anything.
00:21:49.000People worried about a full-scale war.
00:21:51.000it would be nearly impossible for the Iranian regime to actually be able to put troops into Israel.
00:21:57.000Now they can fight a cohort war, which they are.
00:22:00.000They're shooting missiles, which they are.
00:22:02.000I believe that you're going to see a lot more terrorist-style activity happening in Israel, God forbid.
00:22:09.000But what President Trump has done here is he's positioning assets by warning Iran because there has been Some credible information that they would like to hit the United States because they feel like that we are supporting Israel, which we are, but at the same time, they don't want to draw us into the fight.
00:22:30.000And what we're doing is we're positioning ourselves so they don't draw us in a fight.
00:22:34.000And so I think Trump is handling this, President Trump is handling this very well.
00:22:39.000And Israelis are doing the Lord's work here by literally...
00:22:49.000And so what do you have to say for some people, and I share some of this concern, that we do not want regime change.
00:22:55.000Is there something short of regime change, of getting rid of the nuclear program and not potentially destabilizing the country that could result in a civil war?
00:23:03.000I'm basically asking, in your estimation, Senator, what do you think victory looks like?
00:23:07.000We are absolutely not talking about regime change.
00:23:28.000However, they will never be able to have a nuclear weapon.
00:23:31.000So what victory looks like is their inability to ever have a nuclear weapon, or inability, that we never want them to have a nuclear weapon.
00:23:40.000So when we can knock out their infrastructure and prevent that from ever happening, that is victory.
00:23:46.000And this is what prevents a forever war, by the way.
00:23:49.000When you don't know what victory looks like, if you can't define victory, that's how you have a forever war.
00:23:55.000I'd go back and use the argument in Afghanistan.
00:23:58.000After we took out Osama bin Laden, we should have left.
00:24:04.000And I think a lot of guys that fought there would feel the same.
00:24:09.000And so if you can define victory before it starts, which that's what President Trump has said, we will never allow you to have a nuclear weapon, ever.
00:25:18.000From getting nuclear weapons, and we won't be using a man like Secretary Kerry that has absolutely no concept of negotiation, who's making a horrible and laughable deal, who's just being tapped along as they make weapons right now.
00:25:50.000And that's what this fight is all about.
00:25:52.000Unfortunately, the Biden administration did not keep the Trump administration policies in place on anything, which is why you had disastrous withdrawal out of Afghanistan.
00:26:00.000We had disastrous foreign policies all over the country.
00:27:58.000He has been consistent through this, through this entire situation, and that has been When world leaders know that they can trust what you say, and you're also backing it up with Reagan foreign policy, peace to strength, it gets people's attention.
00:28:17.000And by the way, there's nobody that wants peace more than President Trump as well.
00:28:21.000And you can achieve both by showing strength and having straight talk.
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00:29:33.000Senator Mullen, you're the liaison between the House and the Senate when it comes to the big, beautiful bill.
00:29:38.000What should our audience know about these negotiations?
00:29:41.000Well, they're fluid, and the president is very, very involved in this, Charlie.
00:29:46.000What we don't want to do is get in a ping-pong back and forth where the House sends, where we send this back to the House, the House amends it, sends it back to us, and we end up going in to conference, and that would take weeks, if not months, to negotiate.
00:30:00.000What we're trying to do is work all the problems out now, like with SALT, with the debt limit, with Medicare and Medicaid.
00:30:08.000When we start talking about some debt limit increase, that is a very sticky subject for some because there's a lot of people in both chambers that doesn't want to put debt limit increase in this.
00:30:20.000But understand that if we don't do this, this is a leverage point for the Democrats because we will have to raise our debt limit.
00:30:27.000If we don't raise our debt limit, then we default.
00:30:29.000And this is what I said on multiple places, not raising our debt limit is like not getting a business loan when you're buying a felon business.
00:30:38.000You can have a business plan to make it profitable, but it doesn't mean you're going to make it profitable the first day.
00:30:50.000There's a good chance that we can balance a budget in three years.
00:30:54.000And this might get us to three years, depending on how much growth we have.
00:32:13.000United States, that's why I say if we would actually bring back line item appropriations where we had to appropriate every single dollar instead of bundling dollars like states do, we could actually probably balance our budget because what Doja's doing is just exactly what states do every day is they line item every single penny that is spent since we
00:33:02.000So there's that negotiation that it's what our founding fathers wanted, right?
00:33:06.000They wanted people to represent their backyard.
00:33:08.000And I agree, state of Oklahoma should not be subsidizing New York and California because they have high property taxes and poor leadership in their state.
00:33:21.000Used to, SALT was, you know, you could deduct all your property tax and you get a full deduction on it.
00:33:31.000Your maximum was $10,000 that you couldn't claim more than $10,000 in these communities, which is the average household pays about $7,000 a month or $7,000 a year in property tax.
00:34:10.000But in New York, that's actually pretty common because, once again, they have a very poor rent state and they spend way more money than what they should be, so they put it on property owners' backs.
00:34:21.000What we're negotiating right now is saying, okay, we're going to have to do something.