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00:03:46.000It was a recollection of the 2006 interaction with President Trump.
00:03:50.000That Trump was one of the very first people to call when people found out that they were investigating Epstein in 2006.
00:03:57.000President Trump is quoted as saying he threw Epstein out of his club, called the police, and people in New York knew Epstein was, quote unquote, disgusting.
00:05:21.000Ms. Maxwell, were you a close friend and confidant of Jeffrey Epstein?
00:05:27.000I would like to answer your question, but on the advice of counsel, I respectfully decline to answer this question and any related questions.
00:05:38.000My habeas petition is pending in the Southern District of New York.
00:05:42.000I therefore invoke my right to silence under the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
00:05:50.000Let the record reflect that Ms. Maxwell has invoked the Fifth Amendment against self incrimination.
00:06:06.000We had many questions to ask about the crimes she and Epstein committed, as well as questions about potential co conspirators.
00:06:14.000But it looks like this little game of negotiation that's going on behind the scenes with the lawyers.
00:06:19.000Rep. Andy Biggs, who's running for governor here in the great state of Arizona and is going to be the next governor of the great state of Arizona, said that Maxwell's lawyer, quote, said that she has no indication and would say so.
00:06:32.000That neither presidents, Trump, or Clinton are culpable of any wrongdoing.
00:06:37.000And that's one thing they said in this opening statement.
00:06:40.000So, Comer said that Maxwell's attorney said she would, quote, answer questions if she were granted clemency by the president.
00:06:48.000So, horse trading going on behind the scenes.
00:06:50.000That's tough because when you make it that obvious, like certainly just from the political calculation, regardless of what actually happened, if that's the deal, unfortunately, anyone who's sold on there being wrongdoing is not going to buy that because they'll just say, Basically, she sold that story in return for a pardon.
00:07:09.000Which makes it very tough, regardless of what truly happened.
00:07:12.000Yeah, but you know, what's great here is you've got these newly unearthed documents from the FBI, from the Palm Beach police chief, saying that Trump was calling him, you know, warning about evil, disgusting Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell in 2006.
00:07:29.000Which is funny because Trump, a thing that's worthy of note is in 2019, President Trump was saying he had no knowledge of anything Epstein was doing.
00:07:37.000And so you do wonder what caused him to frame it that way.
00:07:43.000I wouldn't be surprised if maybe it was like he just didn't want people to think he was a narc or something.
00:07:49.000Well, I will tell you, I mean, Palm Beach, if anybody knows the Palm Beach area, it's like high school for rich people.
00:07:57.000They're all talking, they all know, they all hear the rumor mill.
00:08:00.000And so it's possible that President Trump just didn't have direct evidence or direct knowledge.
00:08:06.000He had heard all of the stuff that was going on, wanted them to step in.
00:08:09.000Also, President Trump has been very clear about this.
00:08:13.000You know, I think Virginia Guffrey was working at Mar a Lago, I think in the spa there or whatever, and Jeffrey Epstein poached her from his club.
00:08:24.000And I think he was trying to do that a lot of times with more staff than just Virginia.
00:08:29.000And so, listen, if you're a business owner and another business is trying to keep poaching your staff, you don't like that.
00:08:36.000And you're going to put your foot down on it.
00:08:37.000So, I do think some of it was sort of a business related thing, some of it was rumor mill, this guy's disgusting.
00:08:44.000And it seems to be that Epstein held on to this grudge for years and kept trying to keep it.
00:08:48.000He's mentioned thousands of times in the files in one form or another, but he doesn't pop up the way others are, where they're emailing Epstein all of the time.
00:08:58.000And I think a very real phenomenon is honestly, I suspect that Epstein himself probably believed that Donald Trump might have been the guy who essentially routed him out to the police, like may have been the guy who brought him down.
00:09:11.000Well, and then he runs for president in 2016, 2015, 2016, becomes president.
00:09:18.000Jeffrey Epstein then becomes even more fixated on him, wants to know how he can get him, how he can take him down.
00:09:24.000And kind of, you know, I just think of scrap behind this guy.
00:09:27.000I think it's just so funny that obviously President Trump took a lot of heat for he was skeptical of saying, you know, we don't need to release more of this stuff.
00:09:41.000And then they finally, like, they dig in and they get this release.
00:09:44.000And oh, it's this previously unreported report of President Trump calling the police on it in 2006.
00:09:50.000Like, He truly is like the cleanest man ever when you think of the amount of effort to bring him down and what they ultimately find, whether it's business or whether it's this.
00:09:59.000And I just want you guys in the audience to marvel in one thing the left is losing their mind about this revelation.
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00:12:28.000I think I still feel I'm, you know me, I lean more towards our guest last week, Jay Beecher.
00:12:34.000Yes, Beecher, who I do feel like we have, I think this Trump thing is revealing, which is that the president was basically correct.
00:12:42.000He was warning a lot of people are going to be smeared by what comes out in these files when there's not going to be a lot of evidence against them.
00:12:51.000And, like, so far, that's been borne out.
00:12:53.000What's come out of these files has been interesting.
00:12:55.000It's been really embarrassing for some people.
00:12:57.000It's been embarrassing for Bill Gates.
00:12:58.000It's been embarrassing for Larry Summers.
00:13:00.000It's been very embarrassing for Noam Chomsky, which I'm very happy about because he's a deranged left wing academic.
00:13:06.000But it hasn't been really revealing of what a lot of people were hyping that would get revealed by this.
00:13:14.000You and I were very much in agreement on that, that it was going to be like.
00:13:23.000And you might see one person covering it and making a huge deal about it.
00:13:27.000And then you'll go and look deeper and you realize that it's been debunked or it's some like rando emailing Jeffrey Epstein about a dead body buried in the desert.
00:13:35.000But it literally, there's no FBI investigation.
00:14:54.000But listen, here would be my one note to our good friend Elon: there is a porn problem and a child porn problem on X.
00:15:04.000I think what would be a great outcome from all of this is that you would clean up, just ban porn, and everything gets about 100 times better on that site.
00:15:13.000Just ban it because there is garbage on that.
00:15:16.000There's been numerous reporting on the fact that there is child porn on that site.
00:15:21.000And if they want examples of this, like we can have a whole team send you what you need because it's gross.
00:15:29.000And you have to sort of like the filters don't really work that way, that well.
00:15:33.000But listen, like there has to be some sort of cleanup on aisle five here when it comes to these social media platforms.
00:15:40.000And I think X should get cleaned up, honestly.
00:15:43.000I think it would be a much better platform if they got rid of that stuff.
00:15:56.000Make The site better, get rid of the porn, get rid of the, and you know, again, this is from reports.
00:16:02.000Thank goodness I haven't seen it, but the reports say that there is child porn on that site, and that's despicable.
00:16:10.000And I just think all resources need to be flooded in to X, make it clean, make it better, and then you get to be on the right side of this issue in multiple different ways.
00:16:20.000It would be helpful because in Europe right now, I know they're making a push to ban X.
00:16:41.000And to some extent, a lot like in the UK, they're using the fact that you can use Grok to change people's photos so that they're in a bikini, which frankly, I think Grok should be allowed to do because you can already do that with a Photoshop editor.
00:16:53.000And it's also not illegal to do that in a bunch of other ways.
00:16:57.000It would probably be easier, yeah, if you couldn't use it to make actual smut.
00:17:00.000It would make that attack harder to do.
00:17:06.000The problem was pre existed, and it's a massive platform with hundreds of millions of users on it.
00:17:11.000There's going to be a lot of bad actors.
00:17:12.000But if you put your foot forward and you draw a line in the sand and say, hey, this needs to be cleaned up, then listen, you're going to generate a lot of goodwill, and the platform will be much improved.
00:17:25.000I think it would be a very, very solid step in the right direction.
00:17:31.000The online world moves fast and it's moving even faster these days.
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00:17:39.000Because discovery and creativity are both wonderful things, but it's important to make sure that safety comes first as well.
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00:17:51.000Accounts for teens all start private by default, they're not open to the entire world.
00:17:55.000And for those under 16, direct messages are turned off.
00:17:59.000Only their friends can comment on their videos.
00:18:01.000And that kind of approach matters because feeling confident and comfortable about these platforms your teenagers are on shouldn't mean digging through a bunch of menus and trying to set everything up yourself and worrying that you got it wrong.
00:18:13.000TikTok is taking a proactive approach.
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00:20:34.000But honestly, I can't tell you what happened Sunday without telling you from the very beginning about who we are.
00:20:41.000The zoo sports club started out as the zoo private club.
00:20:45.000We were going to be a private members only club.
00:20:48.000It was designed that way, and we built our systems and the building and the decor all around that business model.
00:20:57.000But in September of 2024, we had back to back hurricanes hit here in the Tampa St. Pete area for the first time in decades, and it wiped out our beaches.
00:21:08.000It wiped out what is very, very important to those who live here.
00:21:14.000Too many lives were negatively impacted.
00:21:17.000And we started hearing from those people.
00:21:19.000We started hearing from employee, restaurant and bar employees who didn't have a job.
00:21:24.000We started hearing from the bands that didn't have a place to play.
00:21:29.000We started hearing from the community that they didn't have a place to go, to gather, to meet, and to just enjoy and have fun.
00:21:38.000So we, as a group, myself and the owners, met and decided that we were going to pivot a 90 degree turn.
00:21:50.000Offer them everything that we have planned on being a private club.
00:21:53.000Now we're going to be open to the public club.
00:21:55.000We're going to give them an opportunity to come in and play pool or throw some darts or watch some of the incredible local bands.
00:22:03.000And it didn't take long for us to realize that this was the right decision, that we have formed a really great community based establishment for everybody to come in and enjoy.
00:22:15.000There were no rules to who can come in, there were only rules on how to act once you're there.
00:22:21.000Um, and it's worked out very well, and we're very proud of what we built.
00:22:25.000So that brings us to Sunday, where again, you know, it wasn't a political decision.
00:23:01.000The gentleman who videoed me, there was a friend of his with him.
00:23:06.000And once he walked away, the friend came over to me to continue to try to talk to me about it.
00:23:10.000And I explained to him, I said, you know, when it comes to business, the simple rule is majority rules, the needs of the many, so to speak.
00:24:04.000You're being a good capitalist, you're serving your customers well.
00:24:07.000And I also like the way that you handled that.
00:24:08.000You said, don't film me, which is just such a rude thing to do in this day and age that people got their cell phones out and they want to make you internet famous in a bad way.
00:24:18.000But I think, you know, you're going to be rewarded.
00:24:21.000One, because of the way you handled this, you haven't been petty, you handled it like a gentleman.
00:24:28.000And then thirdly, I think you're going to find that, like you said, In the video, you're going to get customers out of this because there's a lot of people in the St. Pete, Tampa area that are going to appreciate the way you handled that and you stood firm on your line.
00:24:40.000Have you got what has the feedback been?
00:24:43.000I know your phones have been blown up, I know your emails have been blown up.
00:24:46.000What's the feedback been from your local customers and your local community?
00:25:40.000I don't need to be looked at as anything more or less than I am.
00:25:45.000I just want us to get back to what we do.
00:25:47.000You know, we have a lot of fun at the club.
00:25:50.000We have live music and games and great people come and visit us.
00:25:54.000And that's, I just want to get back to that.
00:25:56.000And I just, that's what I was hoping to accomplish by coming on your show because I'm hoping the message gets out that we're still who we are.
00:26:07.000You know, I know who I am, I know who the owners are, I know who my staff is.
00:26:12.000And at the end of the day, I can lean on that comfortably and believe that it's just going to work out the way it should.
00:26:45.000We got inundated with videos from bars in Nashville and Colorado and other places that were doing the same thing.
00:26:52.000And I will just say that as somebody who's been through it, Blake can attest as well, Frankie, that somebody who's been through the internet swirl and the churn and the outrage mob.
00:27:12.000These are people that their whole existence online is to just like throw wrenches into the gears of other people that are doing real things.
00:27:19.000And that's what it sounds like you guys are doing at the club.
00:27:21.000You're doing real things for real people.
00:27:24.000You're creating a place where they can gather, they can feel like a part of a community.
00:30:29.000There's kind of conflicting data that's going back and forth.
00:30:31.000There's an article, though, out of Breitbart that I think does a really good job of breaking it down.
00:30:36.000It says almost half of Super Bowl watchers tuned out Bad Bunny.
00:30:40.000Now, this is interesting because there's also a conflicting data point that's going around that's saying 135 million people watch Bad Bunny.
00:30:49.000I'm not convinced I believe that number, but let's just assume it's true, which would be higher than what watched Kendrick Lamar last year.
00:30:59.000So, but I actually think a lot of people probably because of the controversy might have watched both or they might have gone back and watched both.
00:31:07.000Maybe they went back and watched ours.
00:32:16.000So Samba says that while 48.6 million people tuned in for the game or households tuned in for the game, only 26.5 million U.S. households watched the halftime performance.
00:32:30.000And that's down 39% from Kendrick Lamar's show.
00:32:34.000So A 13% drop from last year's game, a 39% drop from last year's halftime.
00:32:41.000Which would follow because we know, because listen, I'm seeing the numbers on the back end and we're working with this third party group to gather all the numbers.
00:32:49.000And some of this stuff just takes time to come in.
00:32:50.000Like we're working with Rob and Parker at Rav.
00:32:52.000There are over 7 million confirmed views for their coverage, but they think they might get to 9 or 10 when all the numbers come in from all the, like Amazon.
00:33:02.000You know, it takes a while for this to happen.
00:33:06.000That you would think, okay, there's this alternate.
00:33:08.000Halftime show, the All American halftime show, and we know that we got real legitimate, like huge numbers for it.
00:33:14.000And so Nolte in Breitbart says the reason you're seeing preliminary headlines based on Nielsen ratings that look like this 135 million tuned into the Super Bowl is due to the difference between viewers and household.
00:33:27.000Nielsen measures viewers and they use like an algorithm to do it.
00:34:02.000Both data points are respected in the TV and advertising worlds, and the data they produce is not seen as either or choice, but as complementary.
00:34:10.000At the very least, Samba is using apples to apples data.
00:34:13.000What he means by this is that Samba collected its data the same way for years.
00:34:18.000So, the comparison from this year's ratings to last year's has credibility as far as trends, which, in any case, no matter how you measure it, are way down.
00:34:27.000So, it's like, it's not that whether or not it captures the whole set of viewers, if they're working with the same pool of TVs, they can at least say, of the pool of TVs we have, we can reliably detect the number of viewers went down for the Super Bowl and then even more for the halftime show.
00:34:46.000I kind of wonder how many people might have just.
00:34:48.000Literally changed the channel because they were wondering Did I accidentally switch to the Spanish language broadcast?
00:35:12.000Like, it's not that she didn't, but she just couldn't understand anything and she didn't like it.
00:35:15.000And she's like, This, I, you know, whatever.
00:35:17.000And that was the number one piece of feedback I heard.
00:35:19.000I actually went on with Chris Cuomo and Geraldo Rivera last night to talk about this, and they were, you know, oh, what a celebration of the mosaic of America.
00:35:28.000And I was like, guys, there were millions of people who couldn't understand a darn thing, and they were not happy about it.
00:35:35.000But so just to reiterate the point, Nielsen is building this off an algorithm, an equation that they use where they put a multiplier on a sort of a survey that they do.
00:35:47.000This is using actual devices of an actual pool of data that they measure year to year to year.
00:35:54.000Their data says there was a massive 22 million household drop off for the halftime show.
00:36:01.000And honestly, it corresponds really, really closely with the numbers that we've seen.
00:36:07.000Now, again, I'm going to, I don't, we don't have the final numbers.
00:36:11.000I will just say that, like, what I'm seeing, if I'm approximating that 50 million viewer mark, is not crazy at all.
00:36:18.000As a matter of fact, it might be a little low, depending on how Nielsen and this third party group end up calculating the numbers.
00:36:25.000So, what we can tell you is that this was probably the second largest live stream in YouTube history.
00:36:31.000And that's just Turning Points channel.
00:36:33.000You add Charlie's, you add, Real America's Voice YouTube, OAN's YouTube, NTD's YouTube.
00:36:37.000There was a couple other random YouTubes.
00:36:39.000You add all those together, it very well could have been the number one live stream event in YouTube history.
00:36:44.000And that means you're beating like the whole country of India that has like what, 1.6 billion people or something like that.
00:37:40.000And talking to some of the people in the media world, they basically described this as a tectonic shift that the halftime show will never be the same again.
00:37:48.000Listen, I feel bittersweet about that.
00:37:52.000I love that we have institutions in the country still that everybody tunes in for.
00:37:56.000But if you're going to disrespect such a huge swath of the country, and whether you meant to do it or not, again, no agenda here, no hate.
00:38:03.000But whether you meant to do it or not, they felt disrespected, they felt disregarded, they felt forgotten.