The Charlie Kirk Show - President Trump's Peace Conditions

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 It is March 25th, 2026.

00:01:13.000 Welcome, Blake.

00:01:14.000 Howdy.

00:01:15.000 So the topic at the lead here of our show is to make a deal or not make a deal.

00:01:22.000 It seems to be something of a mystery whether or not one was even taking place.

00:01:27.000 President Trump says it is.

00:01:29.000 We're in the middle of the day.

00:01:30.000 And the officials deny it, but I think we've got a permanent state of maximum excitement.

00:01:35.000 We're maximally open to a deal.

00:01:36.000 We're always on the brink of a deal, and yet we're also permanently ready to go maximally hard.

00:01:42.000 It's like, listen, it's got to be Trump's.

00:01:44.000 This is what they're calling Trump's strategy of the doctrine of unpredictability.

00:01:50.000 And, you know, it's kind of the point.

00:01:52.000 I think it's kind of the point.

00:01:54.000 So let's, what are the deal parameters?

00:01:56.000 And let's get to the clip that is kind of spurring a lot of this discussion.

00:02:02.000 This was a wild moment from yesterday.

00:02:04.000 It happened after our show wrapped yesterday.

00:02:07.000 And President Trump hints that, well, he doesn't hint.

00:02:10.000 He says directly that Iran sent him a present.

00:02:13.000 And it has a lot of people speculating what that present could be.

00:02:16.000 SOT 13.

00:02:17.000 They're going to make a deal.

00:02:18.000 They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually.

00:02:21.000 They gave us a present.

00:02:24.000 And the president arrived today.

00:02:26.000 And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money.

00:02:31.000 And I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.

00:02:40.000 And they gave it to us and they said they were going to give us.

00:02:42.000 So that meant one thing to me, we're dealing with the right people.

00:02:45.000 Is that nuclear related?

00:02:46.000 No, it wasn't nuclear related.

00:02:48.000 It was oil and gas related.

00:02:50.000 And it was a very nice thing they did.

00:02:52.000 But what it showed me is that we're dealing with the right people.

00:02:55.000 It's so funny how he phrases that because the description, even though your mind goes to, you know, it's President Trump.

00:03:04.000 So you picture him getting like a giant medallion he could hang in, you know, the Oval Office or something.

00:03:09.000 But the implication I got is it could even be, it could be something more abstract, like worth a tremendous amount of money oil and gas related.

00:03:16.000 Well, we already saw the damage.

00:03:17.000 We saw the damage, for example, when Iran lobbed those missiles at that gas facility in Qatar.

00:03:22.000 Maybe they got evidence that an attack on a similar target got called off or got blocked.

00:03:28.000 It could be anything.

00:03:29.000 It could be Strait of Hormuz.

00:03:30.000 It could be Carg Island.

00:03:31.000 It could be that.

00:03:32.000 It could be a number of things.

00:03:34.000 Trump's not giving us any details.

00:03:36.000 But what was interesting about the way this played out yesterday was that the other legacy media outlets were denying Trump's claim that there is, we're not getting any reports from Iranian sources that there is actually a peace deal in negotiation.

00:03:52.000 And then eventually the legacy media was forced to walk back those claims, SOT 21.

00:03:57.000 We're now learning from a senior Iranian source that there has been an outreach between the U.S. and Iran.

00:04:03.000 The source tells CNN that this was initiated by Washington.

00:04:08.000 All right, so CNN's only point of differentiation here is that Washington reached out to Iran first.

00:04:14.000 President Trump says, oh, they're desperate for a deal.

00:04:18.000 And so it remains unclear.

00:04:20.000 Then there was this whole story that Iran did not want to work with Jared Kushner and Steve Witkoff.

00:04:26.000 They only wanted to work with JD Vance.

00:04:28.000 Now, JD Vance and the White House are denying those claims, calling it foreign disinformation.

00:04:34.000 So take from that what you will.

00:04:37.000 But it remains that it does look like, you know, based on President Trump's earlier warning, he gave them five days or he was going to start striking their energy facilities, their oil and gas infrastructure.

00:04:51.000 He says he's got four days left and that they want to make a deal.

00:04:54.000 We'll see.

00:04:55.000 Yeah, let's play another clip from President Trump.

00:04:58.000 So to give more flavor here, SOP 14.

00:05:02.000 But I can tell you they'd like to make a deal.

00:05:04.000 And who wouldn't if you were there?

00:05:06.000 Look, their Navy's gone.

00:05:08.000 Their Air Force is gone.

00:05:10.000 Their communications are gone.

00:05:12.000 That's the biggest problem.

00:05:13.000 It's very hard to communicate them between themselves.

00:05:17.000 All of the anti-aircraft is gone.

00:05:19.000 Most of their missiles are gone.

00:05:21.000 We either shot them or they shot them and don't have them anymore.

00:05:25.000 They're down to a trickle.

00:05:29.000 Pretty much everything they have is gone.

00:05:30.000 I don't know.

00:05:31.000 Can you name one thing that's not gone or can you name one thing that's doing well?

00:05:36.000 You know, if you read the papers, you think we're tied.

00:05:38.000 You think we're in a tough battle.

00:05:40.000 We are roaming free over Tehran.

00:05:44.000 It is really, it does drive that point home.

00:05:46.000 I saw a good comparison.

00:05:47.000 It's like, imagine we were in a war with China and three weeks in, the president was dead, the vice president was dead.

00:05:54.000 A bunch of Congress was dead.

00:05:55.000 A bunch of the generals were dead.

00:05:56.000 No one knows who's in charge of the U.S. military.

00:05:58.000 All of our boats sank.

00:05:59.000 All of our planes blew up.

00:06:00.000 They can fly wherever they want.

00:06:01.000 Everyone's terrified of where a drone would strike.

00:06:04.000 But we did close the Panama Canal and maybe 20 Chinese are dead.

00:06:07.000 And who would you say is winning in that arrangement?

00:06:10.000 Well, it's interesting because, you know, I gave you guys a note of warning, right?

00:06:15.000 There was a strike near in Israel from Iran near a nuclear facility there.

00:06:21.000 That was a warning.

00:06:22.000 There was also reports potentially that Iran had stockpiles that were not previously known of even more advanced missile stock.

00:06:29.000 I have been calling around a lot of sources on this, and I will tell you, just as somebody that's an objective observer of this situation, the tone behind the scenes seems to have lifted.

00:06:42.000 I'm hearing a lot more positivity about the potential outcome of this war.

00:06:46.000 Speaker Johnson is now saying he thinks Operation Epic Fury is about to get wrapped up this week.

00:06:52.000 I don't know.

00:06:52.000 Maybe that's wishful thinking.

00:06:54.000 Maybe that's glass half-full rose-colored glasses.

00:06:57.000 But I will tell you just the tone of people that I'm speaking to has shifted.

00:07:02.000 There is a note of positivity.

00:07:05.000 Oil markets have edged down, which is a good sign. 1.00

00:07:08.000 And if we can get a 15-point plan over the finish line, that would be good.

00:07:13.000 That's what's going on right now.

00:07:14.000 Reportedly, a 15-point plan was sent by the U.S. through whatever, I think through Pakistan.

00:07:20.000 Pakistan is the one doing it. 1.00

00:07:21.000 Whoever in Iran we are currently negotiating with.

00:07:24.000 And we don't have the list of the 15 points, but there's reporting from the New York Times, from Al Jazeera, and others on what it probably includes.

00:07:31.000 That would include an initial 30-day ceasefire, dismantling of Iran's existing nuclear facilities at Fordeau, Isfahan, Natans.

00:07:41.000 A permanent, we're demanding a permanent commitment from Iran to never develop any nuclear capabilities. 0.79

00:07:47.000 President Trump has said that they've already agreed.

00:07:50.000 Trump has said they've already agreed to that.

00:07:52.000 Reopening the Strait of Hormuz.

00:07:54.000 An end.

00:07:54.000 This is a big one.

00:07:55.000 And the end of Iran supporting these military proxies across the Middle East.

00:07:59.000 That's like Hezbollah in Lebanon. 0.94

00:08:01.000 That's the Houthis in Yemen.

00:08:04.000 Those have constantly been this kind of soar that's caused tensions and problems all over the place.

00:08:10.000 I mean, we have, separately from the Iran war, there is a war going on in Lebanon right now that has killed as many, if not more people than the one in Iran.

00:08:17.000 And that's because of Hezbollah existing in southern Lebanon.

00:08:21.000 And so they have similar demands.

00:08:23.000 And we even agreed, apparently, that we would have U.S. support for electricity generation at a civil nuclear plant if they're really insisting they need some sort of nuclear power.

00:08:34.000 So far, Iran's propaganda has said they're rejecting all of this, and instead they have their own five-point plan, which would include that we give them control of the Strait of Hormuz permanently.

00:08:45.000 They have a legal right to do that.

00:08:47.000 I think we're unlikely to make that agreement.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, they've got no cards on that, I don't think.

00:08:51.000 They have some cards, but they don't have a lot of cards.

00:08:53.000 But yeah, listen, and by the way, President Trump has said that point one, two, and three of his 15-point plan is no nuclear weapons.

00:09:01.000 And it's Trump, so you can imagine one, two, and three all just say Iran will have no nuclear weapons.

00:09:06.000 But listen, I'm calling balls and strikes here.

00:09:09.000 I'm telling you, the tone has shifted with many people that were very negative just a few days ago.

00:09:17.000 There seems to be a sense of optimism.

00:09:20.000 Let's hope that that holds.

00:09:21.000 Let's hope that this ends quickly.

00:09:23.000 All right, I want to pivot our attention to what's happening with this DHS funding fight because it's all happening upon the backdrop of the Sheridan Gorman killing in Chicago, right?

00:09:35.000 So you have DHS to defend and protect the homeland.

00:09:41.000 One of those jobs is, yes, deport illegal aliens, deport criminals. 0.93

00:09:45.000 Some of that is FEMA funding.

00:09:47.000 Some of that is TSA.

00:09:49.000 A lot of these different ages.

00:09:51.000 DHS is huge.

00:09:52.000 And now you've got Secretary Mark Wayne Mullen, who's just been sworn in.

00:09:56.000 Congratulations to Secretary Mullen.

00:09:58.000 He's been a friend of the show and been on many, many times.

00:10:02.000 And so I think he's the perfect guy for the job.

00:10:04.000 We had Tom Homan on yesterday saying that he was the perfect guy at the perfect time.

00:10:08.000 So let's hope that his tenure is a successful one.

00:10:11.000 But, you know, listen, I don't typically play clips from Tom Emmer.

00:10:14.000 I got some history and scar tissue just from some of that stuff.

00:10:18.000 But he did say this very well here.

00:10:21.000 And so I'm going to give the man his due CUT 12.

00:10:23.000 The illegal alien who killed Sheridan Gorman is exactly who Democrats are fighting to protect with their needless shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:10:33.000 Their absurd list of demands paints a clear picture.

00:10:37.000 Open borders, limited deportations, and violent illegal aliens roaming free.

00:10:44.000 Democrats want to return America to the days of the Biden border crisis.

00:10:48.000 But that's not going to happen.

00:10:50.000 We're not going to go back.

00:10:51.000 This week, the House is going to vote once again to fund all of DHS.

00:10:56.000 We will vote to end this shutdown, pay the frontline heroes of Border Patrol, TSA, and the Coast Guard, and put the security of our nation first.

00:11:06.000 But Democrats will continue to obstruct.

00:11:10.000 Why?

00:11:11.000 Because they'd rather protect violent illegal aliens over the American people.

00:11:16.000 I mean, and that's really what it comes down to.

00:11:18.000 They want to protect illegal aliens. 0.69

00:11:20.000 I don't know why.

00:11:21.000 Now their newest demand is that they want to remove funding from HSI, which is the investigative arm of Homeland Security.

00:11:29.000 It's exactly as we said yesterday, which is the problem with talking about so much of the left is when you honestly describe their policies, you sound insane because it is unfathomably deranged and evil.

00:11:42.000 But when you're defunding Homeland Security investigations, when you're defunding ICE, the policy intent of this is make it so anyone in the world can come to America and it is impossible for them to be taken out.

00:11:55.000 They'll say, oh, we want the worst offenders to be deported, but they do not believe it.

00:11:59.000 They are lying.

00:12:00.000 You obviously don't want that if you want to defund HSI.

00:12:03.000 Yeah, if you're defunding that, if you're going to make it, it's like when they say, we know voter fraud doesn't exist, so we're never ever going to investigate it or indict anyone or look at it.

00:12:13.000 Total see no evil.

00:12:15.000 Because if these people are showing up at the border and you're going to let them in, and then if they blow off their hearing, you're not going to find them.

00:12:23.000 You're not going to have any ICE agents to make the arrest and ship them back.

00:12:26.000 You're going to bar agents from even going to courtrooms and prisons to pick up the ones who get caught committing crimes.

00:12:34.000 Your position is anyone, especially criminals, has the right to come to the United States and stay here forever.

00:12:39.000 Well, what's interesting is we have this clip from none other than Hakeem Jeffries in 2015 talking about playing politics with DHS funding.

00:12:48.000 SOT 4.

00:12:49.000 We are here today to do a single job, and that should be to fund fully the Department of Homeland Security.

00:12:57.000 Anything else is an abdication of our responsibility.

00:13:02.000 Anything else is an act of legislative malpractice simply because of the inability of my friends on the other side of the aisle to satisfy the thirst of the extreme right-wing anti-immigration base of the party.

00:13:19.000 And so we're playing political games at a time when the safety and the security of the American people is being threatened.

00:13:26.000 Ah, well, that's a far cry from the modern Democrat Party.

00:13:31.000 Let's go ahead and play.

00:13:32.000 This is Philly DA Larry Krasner, Soros-funded Larry Krasner.

00:13:37.000 He's now threatening to arrest ICE agents if they come to his airport to help, you know, lessen the security lines.

00:13:44.000 SOT 9.

00:13:45.000 This is how it works.

00:13:47.000 You commit crimes within the jurisdiction that is the city and county of Philadelphia.

00:13:52.000 I prosecute you.

00:13:54.000 That is how it works.

00:13:56.000 No, I don't take a phone call from the president saying let him go.

00:14:00.000 No, the president cannot pardon you.

00:14:02.000 I'll say it again.

00:14:03.000 The president cannot pardon you.

00:14:05.000 And yes, I will put you in handcuffs and I will put you in a courtroom. 0.93

00:14:11.000 And if necessary, I will put you in a jail cell. 0.82

00:14:15.000 It's infuriating.

00:14:16.000 They treat ICE agents like they are the Gestapo.

00:14:18.000 That's why they describe them like the Gestapo.

00:14:21.000 This is the same Krasner, by the way, who was promising to hunt down ICE agents like Nazis a couple of years ago. 0.96

00:14:26.000 He's just despicable. 0.99

00:14:28.000 He is a man who loves criminals. 1.00

00:14:29.000 He supports criminals. 1.00

00:14:31.000 He celebrates when criminals are able to kill Americans. 0.96

00:14:33.000 Yeah, that's what's hilarious.

00:14:34.000 This is Paris' comment: he's saying, I hunt down criminals and I prosecute criminals.

00:14:38.000 Well, no, you don't, Larry Krasner.

00:14:40.000 No, you don't, actually.

00:14:42.000 You get to pick and choose which criminals you want to hunt down.

00:14:45.000 And we have one more blast from the, it feels like a blast from the past to me, but it really is indicative of the values of the left that persist.

00:14:52.000 There is no moderation on the immigration issue from them.

00:14:55.000 And this is, so we were talking about Sheridan Gorman.

00:14:58.000 She was murdered.

00:14:58.000 She was a student at Loyola in Chicago.

00:15:02.000 And this is how her own student newspaper wrote up what had happened.

00:15:06.000 They wrote an article about it that had the title, Immigrant Man Charged in Murder of Sheridan Gorman, DHS Involved.

00:15:12.000 And they have updated their story and issued a lengthy apology because they say they didn't write about it in a way that reflects their standards and values because they described the man who murdered Sheridan Gorman allegedly as an illegal immigrant.

00:15:28.000 Yeah, go to that headline again, that image of it.

00:15:30.000 So that language does not align with associated press style, nor does it align with the values of this newspaper.

00:15:37.000 No human's existence is illegal.

00:15:39.000 And we quickly changed our wording to reflect that.

00:15:42.000 We acknowledge the harm such language can cause and the power and importance of the words we choose to use.

00:15:49.000 We deeply regret these errors.

00:15:52.000 How about we deeply regret that an illegal foreigner came to the United States and murdered a woman in a robbery, a woman who did nothing wrong and was basically executed by someone who should have never been here? 0.92

00:16:04.000 That's a truly offensive, disgusting, gross headline from the student paper. 0.92

00:16:10.000 The Loyola Phoenix. 0.95

00:16:11.000 Yes, I believe so.

00:16:12.000 Dear God.

00:16:13.000 I mean, you know, we're not dealing with sane and rational actors here.

00:16:18.000 You know, there's been a lot of talk.

00:16:19.000 Is Iran an irrational actor? 0.94

00:16:21.000 We have very irrational actors right here.

00:16:23.000 Iran has to be more rational than the person who wrote this article.

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00:17:33.000 Chip Roy is running for Attorney General of the great state of Texas.

00:17:37.000 Turning point action endorsed.

00:17:39.000 Welcome back to the show, sir.

00:17:40.000 Hey, great to be on, guys.

00:17:41.000 Hope you're doing well.

00:17:42.000 Absolutely.

00:17:43.000 I want to read a tweet here from Bill Melusion.

00:17:47.000 He said, breaking acting TSA Administrator Miss Ha Nguyen McNeil testifies that currently TSA is suffering the longest wait lines in agency history with callout rates hitting 40 to 50 percent at some airports and more than 400 employees have quit since the shutdown began.

00:18:06.000 There is over $1 billion in paychecks outstanding.

00:18:12.000 What are we doing here, Chip?

00:18:13.000 Well, what's happening here is Democrats are trying to leverage and hold hostage the American people to try to score political points, which is somewhat ironic because I don't know how they're scoring political points with anybody other than the very invaders and proponents of sanctuary cities that they're standing alongside.

00:18:29.000 Look, my only gripe is I think Republicans need to do a better job on the Hill of painting the picture that it is Democrats that is causing this issue.

00:18:37.000 We've got to go on offense that Democrats are making the lives of the American people miserable.

00:18:42.000 I had friends in Houston.

00:18:44.000 I think you saw probably on social media.

00:18:46.000 Hopefully you didn't experience it yourself.

00:18:48.000 Friends of mine did in Houston that were four and five and six hour waits.

00:18:51.000 They missed their flights, spent overnight in the airport.

00:18:54.000 This stuff is having a real impact on Americans.

00:18:57.000 Meanwhile, Democrats are wanting to saddle up with the very people who are causing the issue.

00:19:01.000 So we've got to just keep our foot on the gas.

00:19:04.000 I don't really love what I was hearing come out of the Senate about some sort of, you know, well, let's fund DHS all except for ICE.

00:19:11.000 Look, Democrats are saying that we shouldn't have ICE out there enforcing the law and removing dangerous aliens.

00:19:18.000 And for that, they want to make Americans wait in line and not be able to go travel around the country.

00:19:24.000 Let's make them own it and let's stand up for ICE. 0.96

00:19:27.000 Let's not try to give them a hall pass and an off-ramp to deal with ICE.

00:19:31.000 Yeah, so, you know, you keep hearing from the Democrats that, hey, we've offered these standalone TSA funding bills to get that off the table.

00:19:40.000 What do you make of that allegation, that approach that they're taking?

00:19:44.000 Is it true?

00:19:45.000 What's not true?

00:19:46.000 Why would we not take that, et cetera?

00:19:48.000 Well, look, first of all, we isolated DHS when we funded government except for DHS, right?

00:19:55.000 And then now you're getting into DHS.

00:19:56.000 And so they're leaving all these other things unfunded.

00:19:59.000 Thankfully, we had money sitting there in the big, beautiful bill.

00:20:02.000 We thought ahead last year had the money that we're able to use for ICE and Border Patrol, but that's leaving TSA and FEMA and Coast Guard, other entities, Secret Service, other things that are left holding the bag.

00:20:14.000 So look, my view is the more you keep isolating it down, the more you're giving Democrats the ability to say, yeah, we're going to hold ICE hostage, right?

00:20:23.000 We're going to stop enforcement and interior enforcement.

00:20:27.000 I think we need to say, wait a minute, our job is to fund the Department of Homeland Security.

00:20:31.000 Don't let them whittle that down.

00:20:33.000 We should be standing up and saying, look, we're going to fund DHS.

00:20:36.000 And we're doing that.

00:20:37.000 We're sending them bills.

00:20:38.000 And the Senate ought to just keep forcing the votes on them and make them own it. 1.00

00:20:43.000 I'm not in favor of whittling it down.

00:20:45.000 That being said, whatever we need to do to try to do our job to make sure we keep people safe and get TSA doing their job, I'm willing to have all the conversations we need to.

00:20:54.000 We're trying to responsibly govern.

00:20:56.000 The president's trying to make sure we're dealing with RAN, that we're doing our job here, that we're defending the homeland, and Democrats are playing politics with it.

00:21:04.000 So we're all trying to figure out how to break them.

00:21:06.000 Yeah, I completely agree.

00:21:08.000 You give them so much leverage, by the way, Chip, if you give them, if you start whittling it down and giving them one other pet project to then debate that.

00:21:16.000 So I completely agree with you, Congressman.

00:21:18.000 So let's turn our attention to the Save Act.

00:21:20.000 You've been one of the leaders on the Save America Act.

00:21:24.000 It seems like, you know, I called it failure theater in the Senate.

00:21:28.000 I feel like that's where we're still at.

00:21:30.000 You've got great patriots like Mike Lee that are fighting with everything they've got.

00:21:35.000 And I think he's coming out looking like an absolute rock star here.

00:21:38.000 What is your assessment of the progress being made or not being made on the Save America Act?

00:21:43.000 Well, I think you were about to say fighting like heck again.

00:21:46.000 And, you know, look, yeah, that's, and that's perfect for my good, my good Mormon friend, Mike Lee, who's the only time he gets salty language is when he's around bad influences.

00:21:55.000 But Mike is a great American, one of my best friends here.

00:21:59.000 He's doing a fantastic job, along with our mutual friend, Cleta Mitchell, who's one of the great minds behind this bill.

00:22:04.000 He and I worked together two years ago.

00:22:06.000 I think I remember I saw earlier somebody retweeted one of Charlie's tweets from the summer of 24, where he said he agreed with Elon and Elon was an early supporter of the bill we'd introduced to say, guys, we should just guarantee that we know that only American citizens are voting, clean up the voter rolls, ensure we have processes to check citizenship. 0.57

00:22:24.000 And Charlie was an early supporter and adopter of promoting the SAVE Act.

00:22:29.000 We obviously added voter ID, made the Save America Act. 0.67

00:22:31.000 It's a great bill.

00:22:32.000 We've got it through the House.

00:22:33.000 Mike is pushing it hard.

00:22:35.000 And is it failure theater?

00:22:36.000 Yes.

00:22:37.000 Right now, if you look at what they're doing, there's a certain element to that.

00:22:40.000 But I would say the fact that we've now been on it for eight, nine days in the Senate and we forced them through the weekend and we've got the leader and everybody trying to figure out what to do means we're actually forcing them to do their job.

00:22:52.000 Normally, they just kind of shrug it off and go give a press conference.

00:22:56.000 So all of the work, all that Scott Pressler is doing, all that you guys are doing, all the effort by Elon and everybody to elevate this and Mike Lee and then us in the House and the president.

00:23:05.000 Let's be very clear.

00:23:07.000 The president has been a loud voice for this.

00:23:09.000 I think everybody in America is saying, guys, get it done.

00:23:12.000 And look, I'm a message to Garcia guy.

00:23:14.000 I don't know if you've read that old piece.

00:23:16.000 It's a great piece about, hey, get it done.

00:23:18.000 I don't care how you do it.

00:23:19.000 Get it done.

00:23:20.000 That's what the American people want.

00:23:21.000 They don't want to know about all the mess.

00:23:23.000 Just deliver it.

00:23:24.000 So that's my message to the senators.

00:23:26.000 You figured out how to get it done.

00:23:28.000 Let's go do it.

00:23:29.000 But no more excuses.

00:23:30.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

00:23:31.000 And it's interesting.

00:23:31.000 You brought up Elon.

00:23:33.000 And, you know, maybe people would find this interesting, but, you know, I've heard stories of Elon being presented, some of this data behind the scenes.

00:23:39.000 And, you know, Elon's a guy that's used to looking at software.

00:23:42.000 He's used to looking at data.

00:23:43.000 He's used to looking at physical hardware as well.

00:23:47.000 And he's assessed it.

00:23:48.000 And there's a reason why a guy like Elon Musk knows that this is existential to the future of the Republic.

00:23:56.000 So I don't have any more details to share than that, other than when a guy like Elon looks at the data and the information and the evidence set and says this is existential, you should probably take his word for that.

00:24:08.000 And so, yeah, we got to get this done.

00:24:11.000 You know, one other question on this, because I want to pivot to, we'll keep this short, but I know Senator Mike Lee is not in favor of doing this via reconciliation.

00:24:21.000 You're not in the Senate, but what's your take on reconciliation, something that Senator Kennedy is pushing versus getting it done, talking filibuster or whatever?

00:24:29.000 Again, I'm somebody who's always willing to sit down at a table and find a way to succeed and to deliver.

00:24:34.000 We did it on the Big Beautiful Bill, right?

00:24:36.000 There are a lot of things in there, moving parts.

00:24:38.000 I fought hard to get rid of Green New Scam subsidies.

00:24:40.000 Side note, by the way, a bunch of leftists from Burbank, California ran a million dollars of ads against me in a Republican primary because they wanted to end my career because I was fighting so hard in the Green New Scam subsidies, which is one of the key things that President Ramo.

00:24:55.000 I bring that up because, look, when you go through all of this, I will find a way to get it done.

00:25:00.000 If we can do it on reconciliation, great.

00:25:03.000 But color me skeptic, right?

00:25:05.000 Because last year we got shut down by the rulings of the parliamentarian in the Senate that you can do this kind of thing through it.

00:25:11.000 I think Republicans in the Senate are looking for an off-ramp to move down the field and then say they did something when they tie some issue with voter ID or they say, well, we'll only give you a certain amount of funding if you do XYZ.

00:25:24.000 None of that will force the recalcitrant blue states to actually do their job of ensuring that only citizens are voting.

00:25:31.000 None of it will, I think, clear it up so that we can overturn the ruling that says that states like Arizona can't check voter rolls.

00:25:40.000 You all know Arizona well.

00:25:42.000 They actually have to run two election sets of data.

00:25:46.000 They're able to check for citizenship for state and local elections, but they can't for federal.

00:25:51.000 So they have to run two because of federal rules and regulations and the laws.

00:25:54.000 So we need to change the law.

00:25:57.000 Hard to do that on reconciliation.

00:25:59.000 I think that's sort of a, you know, I don't want to say gaslighting, but I do think that a little bit of it is finding an off-ramp to say, oh, yeah, we'll do that.

00:26:06.000 And it's a little bit of a headpat.

00:26:08.000 Yeah, I mean, it's amazing to me how much of the power rests with the Senate parliamentarian.

00:26:13.000 And there is a, it seems to be a divergence of beliefs of whether you could get it through the parliamentarian.

00:26:19.000 You could structure it in such a way that it would get through a reconciliation bill.

00:26:22.000 But then if it goes through reconciliation, there's no chance of getting this implemented in time for the midterms.

00:26:28.000 There's a lot of questions of whether or not it could be implemented for the midterms.

00:26:32.000 Chip, where can people go to support your campaign?

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00:28:05.000 You have an issue here, Congressman, that is near and dear to Blake Neff's heart.

00:28:09.000 So I'm going to take it up.

00:28:11.000 I'll set it up.

00:28:13.000 It says Rep Chip Royce and Breitbart introduces Career Criminal Accountability Act targeting repeat offenders.

00:28:18.000 You're speaking his love language.

00:28:20.000 Yes.

00:28:20.000 Yes, indeed.

00:28:21.000 I mean, it's we've seen over and over.

00:28:23.000 I was telling Andrew, there's a classic headline.

00:28:26.000 I think it was from the New York Times, but I'm not sure, but where the headline was, prison population surge despite fall in crime.

00:28:34.000 And I think we were going through another wave that's happened two or three times even in our lifetimes of us reminding ourselves that the best way to stop crime is to put a pretty tiny number of people just behind bars for good, because there are some people who, if they are free, will do crimes.

00:28:52.000 Bring break the three strikes rule. 0.96

00:28:53.000 That's what I'm about.

00:28:54.000 But anyways.

00:28:54.000 So yeah, tell us about your bill.

00:28:56.000 Yeah, well, first of all, you know, look, I'm 53 years old.

00:28:59.000 I grew up in the 80s and high school, 90s in college.

00:29:02.000 I saw DC when it was just an absolute cesspool, you know, and then New York City, obviously, when it was very dangerous.

00:29:08.000 And then we actually, you know, through broken glass, through all the different policies that, you know, Mayor Giuliani and others carried out in the DC, we actually started getting this country into a pretty good spot.

00:29:20.000 And we were putting criminals in jail and we were going after ways to stop judges who were putting people back out on the street, right?

00:29:27.000 So that's what happened when we came in and we had three strikes you're out.

00:29:30.000 We had, you know, mandatory sentences in order to step in front of judges who weren't doing their job.

00:29:36.000 Well, then, you know, things got pretty good.

00:29:38.000 It's a pretty safe country.

00:29:39.000 And then you heard, and you just noted it, this is really important.

00:29:42.000 You noted about, you know, well, who's in jail?

00:29:44.000 You kept hearing people say, well, gosh, 3 million people in jail in the United States, more than any other country.

00:29:49.000 Like, well, yeah, that might have something to do with why we're a pretty safe country.

00:29:55.000 So what happened was everybody said, well, let's start letting some of these folks out and let's go back to sort of stops on crime policies.

00:30:01.000 Well, guess what?

00:30:02.000 Crime's been spiking.

00:30:03.000 Now we've got judges putting criminals on the streets. 1.00

00:30:05.000 Crime Stoppers in Houston said that there have been 220 Houstonians who were murdered by multiple time felons who had been in and out and in and out of jail and being arrested and let free by judges.

00:30:18.000 220 Houstonians murdered.

00:30:21.000 That's insane.

00:30:22.000 That's Texas.

00:30:23.000 That's not DC.

00:30:24.000 That's not San Francisco.

00:30:25.000 It's not New York.

00:30:26.000 It's Texas.

00:30:27.000 This is one of the reasons I'm running for attorney general.

00:30:29.000 I introduced this bill federally to restore three strikes, which have been watered down through various sentencing guidelines, changes over the years.

00:30:37.000 And I want to restore a really better model for three strikes in year out that really focuses on felons who engage in dangerous criminal activity.

00:30:46.000 So what's the point?

00:30:47.000 How does it work?

00:30:49.000 Well, what we do is we change the point system so that now it's structured so that if you've got significant felonies and you've engaged in dangerous crimes, then you get a full point.

00:31:00.000 And then there's quarter points for other criminal activity, misdemeanors, and other things to try to account for the concerns that people had raised.

00:31:07.000 Like, well, we have people who are three strikes because they just sold some pot.

00:31:12.000 Like, hold on.

00:31:13.000 We're going to minimize that relative to the more dangerous crimes and the, you know, where you're engaging in crimes with a weapon, where you're engaging in dangerous crimes.

00:31:25.000 And then we will change the model so that we can have an actual return to a three strikes type policy.

00:31:31.000 So it's basically going after the career criminals in a way that'll restore it because it's been getting watered down by virtue of people saying, well, don't go bust them because, you know, they had one pot sale once.

00:31:42.000 Well, I mean, I completely agree.

00:31:44.000 And by the way, cashless bail is an abomination, sir.

00:31:47.000 So we got to do something about that.

00:31:48.000 Does your bill address that?

00:31:50.000 This bill does not, but we absolutely need to deal with cashless bail.

00:31:53.000 And that's, you know, more of a state and local issue on that issue.

00:31:57.000 And it's one of the things that obviously is the attorney general that I'd be fully supporting changing.

00:32:00.000 You're reminding me of this clip, and I don't have it loaded yet, but there was a 2023 clip from MPD Chief Robert Conte.

00:32:07.000 So out of D.C., he's now retired, but he said the average homicide suspect has been arrested 11 times prior to committing a homicide.

00:32:16.000 11 times in D.C.

00:32:18.000 Well, it's one of those things.

00:32:19.000 You know, my first legal job was actually in the office of attorney general, and I worked in the prosecutor's assistance division, and I worked in what we call the, it's now called the habeas division, which is where we would go to appeals and we'd fight to leave, you know, keep people in jail or to go ahead and execute them through capital punishment.

00:32:35.000 And people ask me all the time, it's like, well, what do you think about that?

00:32:38.000 You know, what if you get the wrong guy?

00:32:40.000 I'm like, okay, look at their rap sheets.

00:32:43.000 Like, I'd go through and look at these guys and I'd pull out their rap sheets and they would be this long, right?

00:32:48.000 Of just felony, assault, rape, you know, theft, you know, maybe a previous murderer that they've been released on.

00:32:55.000 Like these were the worst of the worst.

00:32:58.000 And, you know, at that time, the early 2000s, we were doing a pretty good job of keeping them in jail or carrying out capital punishment.

00:33:04.000 We moved the other way, even in Texas.

00:33:07.000 And as a result, we now have increased crime.

00:33:10.000 And I saw that clip before we over the segment change of Charlie talking about, hey, I think D.C. will be a safer place if we get the National Guard in there, if the president gets his way.

00:33:21.000 And guess what?

00:33:21.000 D.C. is a much better place than it was a year ago when we had spiking crime and we had members of Congress, staffers who were getting assaulted, some who are getting shot and killed.

00:33:34.000 It's such a basic thing.

00:33:36.000 Very rarely does someone start with a severe crime.

00:33:38.000 They start with lesser ones.

00:33:40.000 If you enforce your basic laws, you'll have fewer murders, fewer rapes, fewer severe assaults.

00:33:46.000 And I'm glad you mentioned the death penalty because I know, frankly, that's an important dimension of this as well.

00:33:51.000 We've seen the power.

00:33:53.000 Yeah, we've seen the pattern of the left, which is, among other things, just if you get rid of the death penalty, they immediately move on to what we've seen in California, where now anyone with a life sentence who's over 50 can get parole for being elderly.

00:34:07.000 And so we're seeing these serial child abductors and rapists being released at an age where they could still easily offend again.

00:34:15.000 So even in Texas, though, I know the number of executions has gone down over time.

00:34:21.000 Can you tell us, do you have any plan to make sure that when someone is sentenced to death for a heinous crime, they will actually face accountability for it?

00:34:29.000 Yeah, one of the things you do as attorney general is you're in charge of the capital litigation division, the habeas division, to ensure that bad guys stay in jail or their, you know, the execution is carried out.

00:34:39.000 When I was the first assistant attorney general, I went Down and with the attorney general, and we witnessed an execution of a cop killer, met with the families, uh, you know, met with the police officers who all came there.

00:34:51.000 And it's important, and people don't understand this is an important part of punishment, and it's it's where it's appropriate, it should be carried out.

00:34:59.000 Look, we need bad guys to be in jail, we need the worst offenders to be removed entirely.

00:35:05.000 I'm in favor of capital punishment for our worst offenders.

00:35:07.000 We need to make sure that we secure our border regardless of who's in the White House.

00:35:11.000 That's another reason I'm running for attorney general.

00:35:13.000 You can't assume Donald Trump in perpetuity, and all of that stuff added up with cartels, gang members, criminals on the streets, all of the leftists and the Marxists who are carrying out the Arabella Network and the Wren Collective, and all of these groups that are funded, by the way, by our tax dollars, by outside dollars, by George Soros.

00:35:31.000 The Office of Attorney General has an enormous amount of power to open their books, and we should open them.

00:35:37.000 And we should also open the books of the groups that are pushing Islam. 0.97

00:35:41.000 Not just CARE, not just the Muslim Brotherhood, but all of the groups that are trying to Islamify Texas.

00:35:46.000 As Attorney General, Texas is not going to become an Islamic state.

00:35:50.000 Texas is going to be safe and secure.

00:35:52.000 Criminals will be behind bars.

00:35:54.000 We're going to make sure that gang members are not on the streets and our borders secure.

00:35:58.000 Amen.

00:35:59.000 Well, it's the biggest Attorney General office in a red state in the country.

00:36:03.000 It's important.

00:36:03.000 Chip Roy, God bless you, sir.

00:36:05.000 We have your back.

00:36:05.000 Thanks, guys.

00:36:06.000 Appreciate it.

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00:37:15.000 Joining us in studio, I don't know.

00:37:19.000 These segments do numbers.

00:37:21.000 You guys love it when we have students on.

00:37:23.000 And so we have another student in studio this time, all the way from Laramie, Wyoming.

00:37:29.000 And that's Gabe Saint.

00:37:30.000 He's our chapter president of TPUSA up at the University of Wyoming.

00:37:34.000 Welcome.

00:37:34.000 Thanks for having me, guys.

00:37:36.000 A little bit different vibe than yesterday.

00:37:37.000 We had two gals in from ASU that had like nice clothes and pretty hair. 1.00

00:37:44.000 And I'm just saying, now we got a perfect man with boots on and you know, kind of have the cowboy vibe and all that stuff.

00:37:52.000 How are you doing?

00:37:53.000 How are we doing?

00:37:53.000 I'm doing good.

00:37:54.000 It's a little hot here.

00:37:55.000 I'm not used to it.

00:37:56.000 Well, it's going to be a lot hotter.

00:37:59.000 Well, actually, we're going to dip back down into normal seasonal norms.

00:38:02.000 And you know, there's like 104 here.

00:38:05.000 There's 104 here on Sunday.

00:38:07.000 And we looked back.

00:38:08.000 It broke the record.

00:38:09.000 And the previous record was 94 or something like that set in the 90s.

00:38:14.000 So it's been a hot spell.

00:38:16.000 So, Gabe, tell us about what life is like as the chapter president of TPUSA in Wyoming.

00:38:22.000 Because you'd think culturally be a little different.

00:38:25.000 Do you have hostilities?

00:38:27.000 Has the chapter exploded in recent months?

00:38:29.000 Tell us about it.

00:38:31.000 Yeah, you know, you think that being at the University of Wyoming, we're the deepest red state in the country.

00:38:35.000 Trump's won our state by more than it, by a higher percentage than any other state.

00:38:40.000 Yeah, UW, it's not the most friendly place towards conservatives.

00:38:45.000 Never has been.

00:38:45.000 It's kind of that one lone two blue spots in Wyoming.

00:38:49.000 You got Jackson and Laramie, College Town.

00:38:51.000 So, yeah, I mean, right after the assassination, like a kid in our student newspaper said that it was a duty to shoot conservatives, and like there were the celebrations on campus.

00:39:00.000 They published that?

00:39:00.000 They published that, yeah.

00:39:02.000 And yeah, that was quoted in the student newspaper.

00:39:04.000 And we had all sorts of stuff happen right after that event.

00:39:08.000 And so it's kind of wild.

00:39:09.000 Chapter's huge.

00:39:11.000 We're the only four-year university in the state.

00:39:13.000 So it's kind of like where all of Turning Point in Wyoming coalesces is in Laramie.

00:39:17.000 So, yeah.

00:39:17.000 How big is the chapter grown?

00:39:19.000 In our weekly meetings, we get anywhere from 30 to 50 people.

00:39:24.000 So that's big.

00:39:24.000 And then when we hosted Charlie, we had 25% of the student body sign up.

00:39:28.000 Yeah, I saw that.

00:39:29.000 That was remarkable.

00:39:31.000 Yeah, it was huge.

00:39:32.000 It was the biggest political event in the state of Wyoming since Trump came and campaigned against Liz Cheney.

00:39:39.000 It's the only reason Trump will come to the state of Wyoming.

00:39:42.000 Well, you got it.

00:39:43.000 You can't have Democrats representing Wyoming.

00:39:46.000 You absolutely can't.

00:39:47.000 You know, and it was interesting.

00:39:47.000 I remember a couple speeches that Charlie gave in Wyoming, and he was like, You guys think you have it all good here right now?

00:39:53.000 But there are forces that will insinuate themselves, often with an arm next to their name, that will dismantle the good things that are going on in the state of Wyoming.

00:40:03.000 Yeah, we have a huge rhino problem in the state of Wyoming.

00:40:06.000 Our Supreme Court.

00:40:07.000 Yeah, our Supreme Court just made abortion legal up until birth in the state of Wyoming.

00:40:11.000 And you didn't think that happened in Wyoming.

00:40:13.000 They brutalized an amendment we passed to combat against Obamacare and said, hey, this means you can now abort your baby. 0.77

00:40:20.000 And so it's crazy.

00:40:22.000 Last election cycle, our Freedom Caucus took the majority in our House of Representatives, and there's going to be a huge rhino clapback. 0.89

00:40:28.000 They're going to try to, but I think we'll combat it.

00:40:30.000 Interesting.

00:40:31.000 Yeah, and I think it's, you know, a lot of people think this kind of stuff is limited to blue states or whatever.

00:40:37.000 It's coming for you in a red state.

00:40:38.000 And the fact that the student newspaper at the University of Wyoming, what's the total population of Wyoming?

00:40:44.000 Like 560,000.

00:40:46.000 Okay.

00:40:47.000 It's mostly a rural state.

00:40:49.000 Laramie.

00:40:50.000 Yeah, Laramie is the largest city in Wyoming, correct?

00:40:53.000 No, so our capital, Cheyenne, is.

00:40:55.000 I think we're like, we're in the top five, though, Laramie.

00:40:57.000 I think Cheyenne, Casper, what's the population, though, in that?

00:41:02.000 Laramie's like 36,000 people.

00:41:04.000 Okay, so 36,000 people, but it's got this college edge. 0.97

00:41:09.000 And you're getting somebody with the audacity to write that it's the duty to shoot conservatives.

00:41:15.000 How that's not incitement directly, by the way, is beyond me. 0.58

00:41:20.000 You're the expert on the incitement rules, but it's a specific targeting of people, specific method of killing people.

00:41:26.000 So we need at least two out of three of a specific time, place, manner.

00:41:29.000 I can't believe that the newspaper would do that.

00:41:31.000 All right, so let's talk about the issues facing young conservatives on campus.

00:41:37.000 All right.

00:41:37.000 What is the vibe in Wyoming, young conservatives, when it comes to Iran?

00:41:43.000 I think that, you know, the kids in Laramie, the kids in Wyoming, I think they're kind of like the kids across the rest of the country.

00:41:50.000 They're really questioning the war.

00:41:51.000 Why are we there?

00:41:53.000 Like, even I'm in that spot.

00:41:55.000 You know, I went on a Turning Point Israel trip, and it's just kind of hard to win the debate on campus.

00:42:01.000 And I think that's where a lot of Turning Point students are.

00:42:03.000 It's like, how do we win the debate?

00:42:06.000 And I think it's as we said, where we're a little concerned the administration, even where there is an argument to be made, they haven't aggressively made it.

00:42:14.000 We've seen these hype videos and stuff, but there was this extended buildup.

00:42:19.000 And even in the days before, I don't know that they were coming out and saying, here is the reason Iran is a bigger threat than they were even last summer, let alone years ago.

00:42:28.000 Right.

00:42:28.000 Yeah, and I think that's a good point.

00:42:31.000 I mean, there's a case to be made, but we were critical in the early days that we didn't feel that the case had been successfully made.

00:42:39.000 I think the admin then came back.

00:42:41.000 You saw this from Marco and some others explaining the rationale.

00:42:44.000 But the truth is, you know, and I've been honest about this, people don't like to hear it.

00:42:48.000 The kids don't like the Iran war, right? 0.87

00:42:51.000 It could be the geopolitical national security right call, but it is a political loser with Gen Z. There's kind of no doubt about that. 0.71

00:42:58.000 Yeah, and I think you guys are right.

00:42:59.000 I just don't think that the case has been made with Iran.

00:43:02.000 I think, like, I've been alive for 23 years.

00:43:04.000 Our country's been at war in the Middle East all our lives, all my life, and we've just gotten nothing but trillions of dollars in debt, dead soldiers, soldiers that come back with PTSD that ruins homes and families.

00:43:15.000 We haven't gotten any oil.

00:43:17.000 And I think, like, my generation, we came like politically conscious when Trump ran in 2015, 2016.

00:43:24.000 And so, like, he lives in our head rent-free, talking about no more foreign wars.

00:43:28.000 And, like, kind of like how the old Gen Xers and boomers are with Reagan.

00:43:31.000 Like, they still think like, you know, he's the mantra of the day.

00:43:35.000 And so that just lives in our head.

00:43:37.000 And, like, when we're on campus and we're trying to justify, you know, the administration and defend, you know, Trump, people poke holes in our ideology and they just point out the ideological consistencies.

00:43:47.000 And, like, I was tabling two weeks ago talking about Iran and talking about their nuclear program.

00:43:53.000 But these guys that were right-wing were saying, well, they're nuclear hedging, just like South Korea and Taiwan and Japan.

00:44:01.000 They have a robust nuclear program to deter China, who's a nuclear threat. 0.96

00:44:06.000 So it's just hard.

00:44:07.000 No, and I agree.

00:44:08.000 I mean, listen, we can't speak for Charlie because he's not here, and it would be wrong to do that.

00:44:14.000 What I can say is that I watched the process unfold when it came to Midnight Hammer.

00:44:19.000 And Charlie wanted to err on the side of avoiding foreign conflicts.

00:44:24.000 There's no doubt.

00:44:25.000 He was anti-interventionist mostly.

00:44:28.000 But he also was willing to give President Trump the benefit of the doubt in the sense that he has not gotten us embroiled in foreign conflicts, forever wars, quagmires.

00:44:38.000 I would not describe what's going on in Iran as a quagmire.

00:44:42.000 And ultimately, this is why we got President Trump elected, is to make tough decisions in tough situations.

00:44:49.000 And he makes tough calls.

00:44:51.000 These are impossible decisions where you're between a rock and a hard place where there isn't necessarily an easy answer, right?

00:44:57.000 And so peace through strength only works, by the way, if you're willing to use that strength.

00:45:01.000 Now, history and time will tell whether or not this was the right choice.

00:45:05.000 But you've got to give President Trump some due that he has been the one president in our current modern American history that has not gotten us embroiled in a foreign conflict and a forever war.

00:45:15.000 So this is a foreign conflict.

00:45:17.000 But his track record thus far has been pretty good.

00:45:20.000 We'll see how it works out on this.

00:45:22.000 But I think that's a really fair point that it's just it does put you in a position where even guys like Charlie were out there saying he's the peace president, selling President Trump as the peace president.

00:45:32.000 And now it's more difficult to defend that.

00:45:33.000 And that's a really, really fair point.

00:45:35.000 Okay, so how many times a week do you table?

00:45:38.000 We table anytime between one and four times a week.

00:45:41.000 All right, one and four times a week.

00:45:42.000 What are the main things that you're hearing from students when you're tabling?

00:45:47.000 What are the biggest issues?

00:45:48.000 Yeah, I think obviously we just talked about Iran.

00:45:51.000 A lot of free speech stuff.

00:45:52.000 That's been a big topic on our campus for the last three years.

00:45:56.000 University of Wyoming just adopted the Chicago principles, basically.

00:45:59.000 So we have free speech protections on campus.

00:46:02.000 Epstein, obviously, kind of like all the controversial stuff that you see on the Instagram reels and X.

00:46:07.000 Yeah.

00:46:09.000 So top issues.

00:46:10.000 So when you're asked about Israel, for example, is that mostly coming from a left-wing faction or a right-wing faction?

00:46:18.000 A little bit of both, maybe?

00:46:19.000 A little bit of both.

00:46:20.000 I would say it more comes from a right-wing side.

00:46:23.000 Our campus is definitely majority conservative with the students on campus.

00:46:28.000 And so we are actually trying to, I don't know, bring more right-wing kids, but they think that we're pretty moderate turning point on campus, probably a little different from other campuses.

00:46:39.000 So we're considered the radicals on those campuses.

00:46:42.000 So it's a little odd, but we have some good conversations at tabling.

00:46:47.000 Epstein was a big one for a while, but that kind of died off.

00:46:50.000 We have a lot of talk about energy in our state.

00:46:53.000 That's always a big thing, always being talked about because we're a big coal capital.

00:46:56.000 We have a lot of controversy over wind farms and stuff.

00:46:59.000 Don't let them.

00:47:01.000 What about immigration rhetoric?

00:47:02.000 Do you ever run into a huge one?

00:47:04.000 Do you say they need migrants to work as ranch hands or anything?

00:47:08.000 Yeah, you know, no, not really.

00:47:12.000 If there's anything that the right-wing kids on campus think that we're all right on is immigration.

00:47:17.000 I mean, we're a bunch of moratoriumists.

00:47:19.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:47:21.000 When you guys have your meetings, do you see, are the meetings divided?

00:47:25.000 Do you feel like there's factions?

00:47:27.000 Oh, yeah, there's huge factions.

00:47:29.000 We've been doing this cultural debate series where we talked about feminism and the simpery that's present among young men.

00:47:37.000 And that's super controversial.

00:47:40.000 Yeah.

00:47:41.000 So talking about feminism, there's kind of like this weird thing, you know, among conservatives.

00:47:47.000 And like we have this trad LARPing culture thing going on where everybody wants to make like sourdough bread and have a little farmhouse.

00:47:53.000 And like yeah, yeah.

00:47:55.000 And I think that's a great thing, but how much is that real?

00:47:58.000 And like, I don't remember who said it, but I made this proposition that was like, well, we want these like trad wives and stuff, and these young women want to be trad wives.

00:48:07.000 But when it comes down to it, they're kind of like just crypto feminists because they want their husbands to have all the responsibility, but no authority in the household or over the family. 1.00

00:48:15.000 So it's just very odd and trying to like kind of poke holes in the thinking, make people think and ask questions about what they believe.

00:48:21.000 And then like the young men, they're just like simps.

00:48:24.000 Like they just, and we got to get rid of that.

00:48:25.000 We need men to be leaders.

00:48:27.000 I mean, completely.

00:48:28.000 No sim thing.

00:48:30.000 Men need to be the leader of the household. 1.00

00:48:32.000 You need to get your kids and your wife to church, and you need to be the breadwinner. 0.80

00:48:38.000 You know, this is, by the way, I've said this before.

00:48:41.000 I'm stealing the line from somebody else, but men are like trucks. 0.77

00:48:44.000 They will be squirrely all over the road if there's not a load on them.

00:48:47.000 And you put the load in the back of the bed, they'll drive straight as an arrow.

00:48:51.000 So men, you have strong shoulders for a reason.

00:48:54.000 You need to be loaded up with responsibility.

00:48:56.000 And that's a good thing.

00:48:56.000 You're going to have a life of purpose and of meaning and of productivity.

00:49:01.000 And so, yeah, but there's this cultural element that says because of feminism, because women expect, there's a sense at least that a lot of women expect all the money, all the provision without any of the authority, that they're just opting out of this whole vibe. 1.00

00:49:18.000 So what's the vibe on marriage on campus?

00:49:21.000 You know, I think that's probably one of the more controversial things.

00:49:25.000 Like in my chapter, is like a lot of the young men question whether it's worth it.

00:49:30.000 And the young women, they expect their men in a weird way to be simps. 0.98

00:49:35.000 And that's where there's a lot of controversy, and that's where you kind of see the factions.

00:49:39.000 A lot of the young women expect they're just like, like they're men to worship them, and it's kind of weird.

00:49:45.000 Just define simps for our audience over 23.

00:49:49.000 Yeah, for the boomers out there, basically simply just like kind of like just worshiping and like you revolve around your girlfriend or your wife. 0.85

00:49:59.000 You kind of cater to them always.

00:50:01.000 Not a lot of, you have all this responsibility and you just kind of do whatever they say.

00:50:05.000 And it's not about being the rock of your relationship and being centered in crime.

00:50:10.000 Yeah, I mean, listen, this is a huge problem, by the way, for people at home that maybe aren't internalizing this, but the divide between young men and young women about expectations when it comes to a relationship is actually a huge cultural problem.

00:50:23.000 And we've got to get to the root of it because women need to start celebrating masculine men, strong men, men that can lead, men that can be productive, fathers and husbands and entrepreneurs.

00:50:36.000 And there is an expectation that's placed on young men like yourself that it's sort of all about the boss, babe.

00:50:43.000 We've got to like put the woman on the pedestal, treat her like a princess, expect nothing out of her. 1.00

00:50:48.000 I think that's really, really unhealthy.

00:50:51.000 And I'm not saying all women believe this, but there is enough of them where it becomes a, I guess, like a cultural phenomenon, right? 0.93

00:51:00.000 And that's kind of what you're feeling as a young men, right?

00:51:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:51:03.000 You know, like the young men, a lot of them, and if you go to like Amfest and SAS, we talk about it.

00:51:08.000 Like these young men, they get involved in the faith and they end up going to like really old forms of Christianity, like Catholicism.

00:51:15.000 Orthodox.

00:51:16.000 That's a weird one.

00:51:17.000 I don't know.

00:51:17.000 Form theology.

00:51:18.000 Yeah, like I became Presbyterian because of it.

00:51:20.000 So yeah.

00:51:21.000 Yeah.

00:51:22.000 So do you see a lot of friction between the sexes on campus?

00:51:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:51:27.000 Really?

00:51:28.000 Even conservatives, yeah.

00:51:28.000 Even conservatives.

00:51:30.000 So you're saying even conservative women are not, they don't understand kind of what a man is or a masculine man is.

00:51:38.000 They want you to be simps too.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, and I think that's just kind of when you look at these cultural phenomenons is that usually the men kind of start somewhere and it takes a little bit for the young women to get there too.

00:51:49.000 And I think it mostly comes of just both sides not understanding each other is that these young men have become way more right-wing and way Christian really fast over the last five years.

00:51:57.000 And so I just think there's a little bit of a divide and I think it'll catch up.

00:52:01.000 I think women, like biologically, they do feel attraction to assertive men and confident men, like men on a mission.

00:52:10.000 And so you have to hope that if men are shifting in that direction, as you say, that they'll win over women in their wake.

00:52:17.000 And Charlie was a big believer in that.

00:52:18.000 That's what I think, too.

00:52:19.000 I think if men lead, women will follow. 0.99

00:52:22.000 That's a controversial thing to say in today's age, but it shouldn't be.

00:52:25.000 That's the way that God designed men to be leaders, men to be strong.

00:52:29.000 Women need to celebrate that, not fight it. 1.00

00:52:32.000 And I think you're totally right.

00:52:35.000 I don't care what a woman says. 1.00

00:52:37.000 Women are drawn to strong men.

00:52:39.000 Yeah.

00:52:40.000 They do not want beta males.

00:52:41.000 Also, I would just like to say, our viewers like the fact that we explained what a simp was.

00:52:45.000 Thank you.

00:52:46.000 I am a boomer.

00:52:47.000 I did not know what that was.

00:52:49.000 Yeah.

00:52:49.000 Well, listen, Gabe, I think you're doing great work.

00:52:53.000 Everybody says that University of Wyoming is thriving under your leadership.

00:52:56.000 This is your senior year, though, right?

00:52:57.000 I'm actually a first-year law student now.

00:52:59.000 So how's that work?

00:53:00.000 Are you going to keep leading the chapter?

00:53:02.000 Yeah, I ain't giving it up.

00:53:05.000 Are you developing leaders underneath you?

00:53:07.000 Yeah.

00:53:08.000 A lot of freshmen this year because of everything that's happened.

00:53:10.000 So yeah, it'll be good.

00:53:11.000 All right.

00:53:12.000 Well, good.

00:53:12.000 Well, we've got to get Turning Point back out to Wyoming.

00:53:15.000 That seems like fertile ground.

00:53:17.000 We've got to keep Wyoming deep, deep, deep, deep red.

00:53:19.000 Yes.

00:53:20.000 Well, Gabe Saint, glad you could make it.

00:53:22.000 It's been a pleasure.

00:53:23.000 And apparently you're a fan favorite.

00:53:25.000 So good job.

00:53:26.000 Yeah, thanks for having me, guys.

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00:54:28.000 Man, you guys loved Gabe Saint.

00:54:31.000 People loved our chapter president.

00:54:34.000 I mean, it's one of the reasons people love Charlie so much.

00:54:36.000 They like to see a young person with good conservative values articulate.

00:54:40.000 I know, but we got to fix this whole male-female divide.

00:54:43.000 Women, you got to understand that men will be men, and that's a good thing. 1.00

00:54:48.000 Stop fighting them.

00:54:49.000 Anyways, dudes have done amazing things.

00:54:51.000 Dudes have done amazing things.

00:54:53.000 And so have women.

00:54:54.000 It's about having proper balance between the masculine and the feminine.

00:54:58.000 All right.

00:54:59.000 Without further ado, Alex Marlowe, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, joins us now, also host of the Alex Marlowe Show.

00:55:05.000 It's good to have you.

00:55:05.000 Welcome, my friend.

00:55:07.000 It's in times like these that we need our trusted voices to rally around and make sense of the world.

00:55:12.000 But I got kind of a fun one for you.

00:55:15.000 So this is stranger than fiction.

00:55:18.000 Actually, it's not.

00:55:19.000 It's completely predictable for California.

00:55:22.000 The University of Southern California has abruptly canceled a California gubernatorial debate just hours before it was set to air Monday.

00:55:29.000 Why?

00:55:30.000 Because all six qualifying candidates were white.

00:55:35.000 Alex, you know California well.

00:55:38.000 I just, I couldn't resist.

00:55:39.000 I mean, it's not like front page news, but it's really important just to like get into the psyche of the left.

00:55:45.000 And this, are you surprised?

00:55:47.000 I have a feeling.

00:55:48.000 I'm actually surprised all the top candidates are white. 0.59

00:55:50.000 I mean, this state, it feels like there's not that many white people left.

00:55:54.000 I know you have a lot of white people.

00:55:56.000 You go walk around California and you kind of go, where did all the white people go?

00:55:59.000 Where did all the whites go? 0.99

00:56:01.000 No, I was just commenting on how it seems like a lot of the people who are part of the golden age of California have kind of left the state for anywhere.

00:56:10.000 It's a lefties sometimes leave and go to Canada, places like that.

00:56:14.000 And then righties, we go to Florida, we go to Texas, we go to Arizona, we go to places like that.

00:56:18.000 So yeah, it's actually very shocking that this is the case, but it also illuminates at a more serious cultural level the fact that the left has for years now, probably were a solid decade.

00:56:30.000 You can maybe trace this to the first time Donald Trump was elected in 2016 to when this way they had that psychological break.

00:56:38.000 They have no longer care about standards at all.

00:56:40.000 They don't care about excellence.

00:56:41.000 They don't care about a track record.

00:56:42.000 They care about representation and identity.

00:56:46.000 So if you don't have one of those boxes to check, if you don't have brown skin or you're LGBTQ, three spirit, four spirit, furry, whatever it is that you are, or you don't have some sort of a strange heritage that you can call upon, then you should not be in a position of power in this country. 0.99

00:57:03.000 This is how people look at things.

00:57:04.000 And it's not just in places like government.

00:57:06.000 It's places like book publishing where they have these sensitivity readers now that are reading books to make sure that the representation is done in the proper way.

00:57:15.000 It's peak wokeness.

00:57:17.000 We are not past the woke moment.

00:57:19.000 We are still in it in blue parts of the country.

00:57:21.000 And this is a very clear example of this.

00:57:25.000 And it's just great to watch the progressives eat themselves alive, though, I got to admit. 0.76

00:57:29.000 So I have a theory that California would be totally on board with mass deportations if it was white people. 0.98

00:57:37.000 100%.

00:57:40.000 This is essentially what their policies are designed to do, by the way.

00:57:43.000 I mean, it's just like every time they get actually very angry, anytime a white person would be a refugee from another country, like they'll move heaven earth.

00:57:51.000 It's just 100% obvious in everything they do. 0.92

00:57:54.000 They just, they don't like white people.

00:57:56.000 So we have to play a clip from Charlie asking the question about has any institution been better off because of DEI?

00:58:04.000 SOT 24.

00:58:05.000 You're thinking that DEI is versus excellence?

00:58:07.000 I think DEI is for excellence.

00:58:09.000 Show me one institution that got better the more it embraced DEI.

00:58:13.000 One institution that got better that embraced DEI?

00:58:15.000 That got smarter, more competitive, leaner, more productive, and that was better than it was 10 years ago.

00:58:20.000 Are our airports more efficient?

00:58:21.000 Are we landing planes better?

00:58:22.000 Are our airlines better?

00:58:24.000 Is our government better?

00:58:25.000 Is our schools better?

00:58:26.000 Is our universities better?

00:58:27.000 I mean, show me one example.

00:58:28.000 Is our public health authorities better?

00:58:30.000 Show me one institution that's embraced DEI that has become better, more excellent than it was 20 years ago.

00:58:35.000 It doesn't exist.

00:58:36.000 DEI will destroy an institution from within.

00:58:38.000 It's almost like he's talking specifically about California there.

00:58:41.000 And by the way, I was at that event.

00:58:43.000 That was at UC Riverside.

00:58:46.000 So I remember that.

00:58:47.000 I hate to be dark about it, but that's why they killed him.

00:58:50.000 I mean, there's just so devastating.

00:58:52.000 You cannot come back from that argument and that it just gives you chills.

00:58:55.000 It strikes fear of God into people on the left because they can't defend that argument.

00:58:59.000 Their defense of that argument would be that DEI is the end in and of itself, that having better representation is the goal.

00:59:08.000 It's not excellence.

00:59:09.000 It's not progress.

00:59:09.000 It's not making us all happier or more powerful or wealthier or bigger leaders on the world stage.

00:59:15.000 No, the goal is to have more representation.

00:59:18.000 That's how the left looks at things.

00:59:20.000 That is the goal in and of itself.

00:59:21.000 And that is just so far away from anything our founders stood for.

00:59:25.000 Any of you who abide by Judeo Christian principles, there's nothing like that that you could draw off of.

00:59:30.000 And people like you and me, guys, like people with conservative values, this is so far afield for us.

00:59:35.000 But that's how they think in the city and this state.

00:59:38.000 Well, and compare and contrast that now, what's going on in Texas with the Democrat candidate for Senate, James Talrico, who has apologized for being white.

00:59:47.000 He's apologized for, you know, the sin.

00:59:52.000 He's so in touch with his privilege, right?

00:59:56.000 And now he's got this whole like vegan scandal, which is hilarious. 0.55

00:59:59.000 But it's interesting that you have a canceled debate in California because everybody's white. 0.87

01:00:06.000 Whereas in Texas, they're very excited that James Talrico's white.

01:00:10.000 This is why James Colbert got behind him and didn't want to platform Crockett, right?

01:00:19.000 She was not out of central casting for a state like Texas.

01:00:21.000 They don't care what color you are.

01:00:23.000 They care that you're the right color for the right context.

01:00:26.000 That's what James Talrico proves.

01:00:28.000 Yeah, they cast James Tallerico and they found a guy who claims he's a Christian, who speaks confidently about the Bible.

01:00:34.000 Apparently he knows nothing about it, but he does speak about it with confidence.

01:00:38.000 He went to the Lego store and he got one of those giant hair pieces and he popped it onto his head.

01:00:43.000 I have no idea how he got hair like that.

01:00:45.000 It does look like a Lego piece.

01:00:46.000 Am I right, guys?

01:00:47.000 I mean, that's what it looks like.

01:00:48.000 And so he's out there.

01:00:53.000 He says he's not going to eat barbecue in Texas.

01:00:56.000 It's like I dream in the middle of the night.

01:00:58.000 I wish I was in Texas eating Texas barbecue.

01:01:01.000 And he's there and he's against it.

01:01:03.000 Like, no, no Texas barbecue for me.

01:01:05.000 This is going to get me elected.

01:01:06.000 It's all because it is diversity because that is a diversity representation of the left in the state of Texas.

01:01:13.000 You wouldn't see a guy like that representing a left-wing position.

01:01:17.000 And they use that to get attention, to get donor dollars.

01:01:19.000 And to this point, it's been kind of effective.

01:01:22.000 Yeah, I mean, it's going to be interesting, too.

01:01:25.000 And I keep looking for updates from that race because remember, President Trump on the Republican side of the aisle said he was going to endorse.

01:01:34.000 Then he held back because I think he was kind of looking for a deal on the Save America Act, a break the filibuster or whatever.

01:01:41.000 But we've endorsed Ken Paxton on this side.

01:01:44.000 The dig against Ken is that he can't win a statewide race in a general and a competitive race.

01:01:48.000 The guy's done it three times, by the way.

01:01:50.000 Last time in, it was, I think he won by 10 points.

01:01:53.000 Yeah, it looked like you were about to chime in, Alex.

01:01:55.000 Don't let me.

01:01:56.000 Yeah, yeah, I love Ken Paxton, and I want to speak to this because this has been so heartening to me.

01:02:01.000 And it was one of the few, there's a lot of discouraging things in the news right now.

01:02:05.000 But we've always loved Ken Paxton at Breitbart.

01:02:07.000 He's a true fighter.

01:02:08.000 He's good on immigration guns, all the usual stuff. 0.99

01:02:11.000 But he's even great on big tech.

01:02:12.000 He's been one of the leaders fighting against the Silicon Valley Masters of the universe, making sure that they play fairly as they control so much of our information in this country and the flow of information.

01:02:22.000 And so he really is a leader.

01:02:23.000 And I thought that maybe Trump was going to endorse Cornyn because he thought Cornyn was a better general election candidate.

01:02:29.000 But Trump's probably looking at it.

01:02:30.000 He's seeing that this is an off-year election, that there's a lot of people in the conservative movement who are not super fired up at the moment.

01:02:38.000 And he sees a Ken Paxton who's going to motivate base voters more.

01:02:42.000 Maybe now he's seeing that as a safer bet in a midterm election.

01:02:46.000 And I love that because that gives us a chance here getting Ken Paxton in, who would be a terrific senator if he wins.

01:02:52.000 Well, exactly.

01:02:52.000 And I mean, you cannot back the guys that have been the thorn in your side for years.

01:02:57.000 I mean, there's just no doubt about it.

01:02:58.000 John Cornyn does not really like President Trump.

01:03:02.000 I remember John Cornyn was a known saboteur of President Trump's agenda back in 2017 when he first took office.

01:03:10.000 I remember that because at Fox, we were getting leaks from his staff about how bad it was way back then.

01:03:16.000 And we've talked about needing to modernize the Republican Party.

01:03:21.000 And, you know, people always say, like, how will the Senate get better?

01:03:24.000 And it's just going to happen as all these old guard guys who have never liked the changes since 2015, they have to be transitioned out.

01:03:31.000 And if we elect Cornyn again, okay, he's still around into the 2030s.

01:03:35.000 Yeah.

01:03:36.000 You still have this guy representing Texas who everyone knows wants amnesty and wants endless interventionism.

01:03:42.000 Yeah, well, I mean, we got rid of Romney, but then you get Curtis.

01:03:45.000 That was kind of like a wash.

01:03:48.000 And so you got to get Nate Morris in Kentucky.

01:03:51.000 You got to get Paxton in Texas.

01:03:53.000 There's a couple races like that where you can get these huge upgrades.

01:03:57.000 But here, by the way, the team pulled one of these Talrico videos that are just too obnoxious not to play at least one.

01:04:04.000 Sot 29.

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01:04:19.000 I'm sure it was really painful for James Talrico to reckon with his own masculinity.

01:04:24.000 And by the way, the way he talks about Jesus is a prophetic void.

01:04:27.000 No, Jesus is your like God.

01:04:29.000 He's your Lord.

01:04:30.000 Like, it just felt, I don't know.

01:04:32.000 That part actually bothers me.

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01:05:48.000 All right, Alex, I want to turn our gaze to Israel.

01:05:52.000 Not Israel, Iran, which Israel's. 0.99

01:05:54.000 They're pretty connected.

01:05:55.000 They're pretty connected right now.

01:05:56.000 So Iran, this is a headline from the Daily Mail right now.

01:05:59.000 Iran rejects Trump's peace plan.

01:05:59.000 It's breaking.

01:06:02.000 And it says 7,000 strong U.S. ground invasion force amasses on Tehran's doorstep.

01:06:08.000 Okay, so let's just give you the details here.

01:06:10.000 Says Donald Trump is massing a 7,000 strong ground invasion force.

01:06:15.000 This is their words.

01:06:15.000 I wouldn't say the Department of War would necessarily say it this way.

01:06:19.000 After the Islamic regime snubbed a 15-point peace plan.

01:06:23.000 Again, it's difficult to get details out of this.

01:06:25.000 I want to focus on the ground portion of this, the ground troops.

01:06:28.000 Pentagon Chiefs ordered around 2,000 paratroopers from the 82nd Airborne Division to the Middle East last night to join some 4,500 Marines already en route to the region.

01:06:38.000 Now, Alex, you know, President Trump has not used ground forces, really, in either Trump 1.0 or 2.0.

01:06:46.000 This would be a massive new wrinkle in the entire calculus of Iran. 0.90

01:06:52.000 What do you make of this?

01:06:53.000 What are you hearing in your reporting?

01:06:56.000 And then let's talk about the political ramifications.

01:06:58.000 Yeah, I'm trying to connect some dots here, and I don't have any, I think, new hard and fast insight to add, but a couple of things that are important.

01:07:06.000 Trump's peace plan that he put out.

01:07:09.000 I just walked through this on the latest episode of the Alex Marlowe show, which should be out in a few minutes.

01:07:14.000 I go through all the points that Trump has.

01:07:16.000 They're all essentially repeats of what he put out last year.

01:07:18.000 He's just reestablishing to a little tougher degree the points he laid out in a letter to Iran a year ago where he said no more nuclear enrichment to weapons grade, no more ballistic missile, long-range ballistic missile development, and you can't fund tier proxies.

01:07:33.000 And they did all three of those things.

01:07:35.000 And he laid it out.

01:07:35.000 That's basically what he's establishing again: you can't do this stuff.

01:07:38.000 And they're a little tougher than last time, but it's basically the same thing.

01:07:41.000 And in exchange, you're going to get to do commerce.

01:07:43.000 We're going to have sanctions released.

01:07:46.000 You're going to be able to do business with the rest of the civilized world.

01:07:49.000 And that will be our reward to you so long as we can keep an eye on those three things.

01:07:53.000 Totally reasonable and legitimate and consistent with what Trump has done.

01:07:58.000 And Iran just says, of course, no, no deal, which is not a shock to me at all.

01:08:02.000 They feel like they are tough negotiators.

01:08:05.000 They're shrewd negotiators.

01:08:06.000 I know that it takes a long time to negotiate with Iran, that they have all sorts of layers of bureaucracy. 0.51

01:08:11.000 We don't even know who's leading the country. 1.00

01:08:13.000 It could be the stupid gay cardboard cutout. 1.00

01:08:16.000 Is it someone else? 1.00

01:08:16.000 We don't know. 1.00

01:08:17.000 No one really knows at this point.

01:08:19.000 And so it's tough to know exactly where they're at, but they're going to play hardball.

01:08:23.000 That doesn't strike me as a surprise.

01:08:25.000 With regards to the ground invasion, here's what I'm nervous about.

01:08:29.000 Just like you guys, I feel like that this is politically, ridiculously risky for Trump to do this.

01:08:35.000 And if nothing short of a devastating, declarative, definitive victory in short order would justify such a thing.

01:08:42.000 And that's really hard to pull off.

01:08:44.000 And in the meantime, more members of the coalition could be slipping.

01:08:47.000 And we're seeing the war is not particularly popular, not popular with anyone who doesn't support Trump.

01:08:53.000 And even a handful of people who do support Trump don't like the war.

01:08:56.000 There's a big AP pullout that we got up at Breitbart News today showing exactly that, which is a significant thing.

01:09:01.000 And he's got to be cautious of this.

01:09:03.000 And I'll tell you, where Trump in the past has built up troops, he ends up using them.

01:09:08.000 He built up all of those ships near Venezuela, then he got Maduro.

01:09:12.000 He built up all those ships in the Gulf, and then he got Khomeini.

01:09:14.000 And now, if he's building up ground truths, don't doubt him.

01:09:17.000 He's clearly willing to use them if he's building them up. 0.65

01:09:19.000 Yeah, the quote from a Trump aide, which they told Axios, Trump has a hand open for a deal, and the other is a fist waiting to punch you in the expletive face.

01:09:33.000 So I think anyway.

01:09:35.000 Listen, you know, Trump, yeah, I mean, it kind of reminds you of Marco Rubio's quote, right?

01:09:41.000 If you don't know, now you know.

01:09:43.000 And I think Trump, again, I agree with you.

01:09:46.000 If he's building up a force, he's probably going to be very prepared to use it.

01:09:51.000 And he said there is no line he's not willing to cross in order to get the mission achieved.

01:09:56.000 Tell us more about the AP poll because I think that's important for the audience to understand.

01:10:02.000 How is this war polling with the base?

01:10:05.000 Yeah, and so the deep concern with voters that the Americans are just not feeling the military involvement overall.

01:10:17.000 Most Americans are saying the military action against Iran has gone too far already, and that's pre-any boots on the ground.

01:10:24.000 The AP is a vested interest in Trump failing, but in general is slightly more responsible than average.

01:10:30.000 But this is logical to anyone who's paying attention because anyone who does not like Trump will never support any sort of military involvement with him.

01:10:39.000 And as you guys know full well, a lot of people in the new members of the MAGA coalition, people who are part of the more isolationist wing of the MAGA movement, they're not going to like this either.

01:10:50.000 So he's really competing for a pretty small swath of the pie in terms of convincing the public this is a good thing.

01:10:56.000 And could it lead to a long-standing peace if Trump draws the inside straight?

01:11:01.000 Yeah, I think it could.

01:11:02.000 And I trust him in a lot of ways.

01:11:03.000 But just noting that this is not going over all that great at home, this is a reality.

01:11:10.000 Well, we had a chapter president from the University of Wyoming on, and his name's Gabe Saint.

01:11:14.000 He said that one of the issues with the Iran war for him and his students when they table on campus is it's ideologically seems inconsistent with the pitch of President Trump as the peace president, right?

01:11:26.000 So they are at a disadvantage to defend it.

01:11:30.000 Final minute or so here, Alex.

01:11:33.000 How would you encourage our students to defend what's happening right now as best as you could?

01:11:39.000 Yeah, the first thing is that nuclear war is a legitimate threat, and people who have dismissed that are just inaccurate.

01:11:45.000 All the government has suggested that Iran was enriching too much.

01:11:48.000 And that's reality.

01:11:49.000 And Trump really does not want to be a wartime president.

01:11:51.000 He wants to be a peace president.

01:11:53.000 He's earned a lot of trust in this regard.

01:11:55.000 And over his first five plus years in his administration, he is watching the polls.

01:12:00.000 He's watching the markets.

01:12:01.000 He wants to wrap this thing up and get us back to building and prospering.

01:12:04.000 He thinks the key to winning over Iran, I believe, is to bring them into the fold economically. 0.73

01:12:09.000 He wants to compel them to do that.

01:12:10.000 He's clearly willing to show a force to do that.

01:12:13.000 He's done this with Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar.

01:12:16.000 He intends to do this with Iran. 0.97

01:12:18.000 Iran's just a tougher foe in this regard. 0.98

01:12:20.000 I think that's well said.

01:12:22.000 And I want to clip that up and make sure our students have it because I believe that that is the best defense right now.

01:12:27.000 That President Trump is very clear-eyed and open to this getting wrapped up very, very quickly.

01:12:34.000 He understands the political dynamics, the economic dynamics, and he wants to nation build here at home.

01:12:38.000 And I think he sees Iran as a very strategic node in a broader plan economically for the United States.

01:12:45.000 We got to pray it works out.

01:12:46.000 And hopefully it doesn't have to be an inside straight, Alex.

01:12:49.000 Alex Marlow, editor-in-chief of Breitbart News, host the Alex Marlowe Show.

01:12:53.000 We'll see you soon.

01:12:53.000 Thanks, guys.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 25, 2026

President Trump's Peace Conditions

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