In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, Charlie talks with Eric Metaxas and Barry McGuire about the need for us to share our faith, our in depth analysis of our briefing from Dinesh D'Souza's upcoming movie on voter fraud, and also, did Sodom and Gomorrah actually happen?
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00:12:54.000I just, we're at the NRB, which is it's all itself, like I have a love-hate relationship with the NRB.
00:13:00.000It's National Religious Broadcasters Convention.
00:13:02.000And it's kind of like, first of all, they always hold it where it is right now, which is to say the Gaylord Resort, blah, blah, blah, which is a terrarium for humans.
00:13:14.000And as somebody who lives in Manhattan, people say, how can you live in Manhattan?
00:14:04.000This is actually, in some ways, it's delightful because I do get to mingle and bump into people, well, like you, who, you know, so it's a lot of fun.
00:14:14.000My favorite thing, of course, was bumping into Pat Boone the other day.
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00:14:26.000I can't even get over the fact that he's now a friend.
00:16:04.000Because first of all, you have to say what country, what is happening, what is going on.
00:16:07.000So there's the one level of having an administration that isn't just like outrageously, unprecedentedly, historically incompetent, but they are also not legitimate.
00:16:19.000You have at least half of the country seriously wondering whether they stole the election.
00:16:25.000So that's a whole layer of bizarre when you have a weak president, when you have a weak administration.
00:16:32.000I'm old enough because I'm like twice your age to know this happens every time, but we're not going to be able to do it.
00:17:12.000No, no, but I mean, seriously, because like when you bring up Ukraine and Russia, for example, right?
00:17:17.000I don't know, I haven't listened to your program on this, but to me, it's one thing that Biden, he sort of puts out a welcome mat.
00:17:27.000Like it's a level of weakness that is so beyond, beyond, that, of course, now is the chance.
00:17:34.000If somebody like Putin doesn't do stuff like this now, they'd be foolish.
00:17:36.000Yeah, so I have, you know, the Salem community is very wise in the foreign policy world, but I probably have a contrarian take, and I bet you actually probably agree with me.
00:17:46.000Which I don't think we should get involved.
00:17:48.000Well, no, that's the easy contrarian take.
00:17:50.000I go a step further and say that it seems clear to me that deep state actors, neocons going all the way back to Bush 41, 43, they've been there forever.
00:18:01.000We used to think they were the good guys, right?
00:18:18.000They have used it to provoke the Russian bear in such a way that almost, you know, to save face or to preserve self-respect, Putin is goaded into belligerence.
00:18:30.000Now, don't get me wrong, I know that he's wrong, and I know that he's not.
00:18:32.000He's evil to invade a smaller, weaker country.
00:18:46.000We're talking about Victoria Noland or Vinman, all these guys that are just off.
00:18:49.000Those people who are fundamentally, I would say, un-American and sometimes anti-American in their vision, they have controlled our foreign policy.
00:19:00.000Because I've had conversations on my program with people like John Zmirek or whatever, asking, like, so when the wall fell, when the Iron Curtain came down in 91, why didn't we end NATO or change things dramatically?
00:19:17.000In other words, who was behind the idea that we're going to sort of keep the Cold War going?
00:19:23.000If they were going to do that, they were going to continue to spend zillions of Americans' dollars.
00:19:49.000Just see it a little differently, where it's actually because NATO kept expanding, it allowed Putin to consolidate power over is that it gave domestic political support that actually created his regime.
00:20:06.000And so you think, what is that called?
00:20:08.000That's called unbelievably bad leadership and planning.
00:20:13.000These are people, you know, Buckley famously said he'd rather be governed by the, whatever, the first 300 names in the Boston phone book than by the faculty of Harvard.
00:21:34.000It's a level of cynicism that is so dark.
00:21:37.000You're talking about human lives that are being affected.
00:21:40.000Not just the 300-plus million in this country who are affected, how they pay their taxes and whether they have to go to war or send their kids to war, but people around the world, people in Ukraine, people in Russia, they're all affected by these fathomlessly cynical decisions.
00:21:59.000And so I guess, you know, I hope that Americans are waking up.
00:22:02.000I know that a number of them are, but we've got to throw the bums out.
00:22:06.000And by the bums, I don't just mean those who were elected, who are rhinos.
00:22:10.000I'm talking about people who are playing this game with evil, people who are not standing up against China.
00:22:16.000My lord, it's just amazing to me that we played patty cake with the devil in China for three decades now.
00:22:24.000Let me ask you, Eric, just to kind of go back to something you said earlier, which is this regime is illegitimate.
00:22:30.000So you and I went to an undisclosed location right near Westlake Village, Thousand Oaks, to participate in Dinesh D'Souza's upcoming movie, 2000 Mules.
00:22:39.000And I just want to emphasize for everyone listening, it's an amazing film, only because Eric talked very little at the beginning.
00:22:46.000But, Eric, I just want your opinion of what your expectation was going into that briefing.
00:22:51.000So, just to give our audience some insight, we sat down, we got a full briefing on the evidence that Dinesh D'Souza had about this being a stolen election, being a legitimate criminal conspiracy.
00:23:01.000What was your expectation going into that?
00:23:35.000So you don't even know where to begin.
00:23:37.000So, what I realized, I mean, I've known this, but what you begin to see now is that the Democratic Party has been playing this game since at least 1960 on a presidential level.
00:23:51.000They've gotten better and better and better at it.
00:23:54.000So, now, when you talk about corruption, stealing elections, you don't know where to begin because they have expanded the operation almost infinitely.
00:24:04.000So, Mike Lindell talks about the machines.
00:24:14.000You can put that 100% to the side whether nefarious actors like China have a vested interest in doing everything they can to pick the candidate they want.
00:24:26.000Let's just talk about homegrown, you know, retail-level ballot trafficking.
00:24:33.000We're going to get, we're going to hire people that don't have great jobs.
00:24:36.000We're going to pay them to harvest ballots and to stuff those ballots in boxes because now we've got these ballot boxes, whatever like that.
00:25:09.000So, Eric, you and I were sitting there in that briefing room in an undisclosed location, and we saw video after video of someone getting out of the car at 3 o'clock in the morning when everyone votes.
00:25:19.000Yeah, everybody votes at 2 and 3 o'clock in the morning, obviously.
00:26:33.000Actually, what really impressed me, I don't know if you described it on your program, but the technology that we now have with people's phones.
00:26:42.000The good news is that the good guys used it to show what to show that these people, I mean, when they did this investigation, this forensics investigation, they set the bar really high.
00:26:57.000They didn't say like one guy was caught stuffing a couple of ballot boxes.
00:27:00.000They said like, if you didn't stuff it, you know, I don't know, 100 boxes or 20 boxes, we're not even going to put you in the system.
00:27:07.000We're only going to look at the people that did this innumerable times.
00:27:11.000We have their phone information and we can see them go to that Dropbox and that Dropbox and that Dropbox and that Dropbox.
00:27:17.000And we see them over and over and over.
00:27:19.000And then they go back to some NGO, to some crime headquarters.
00:27:23.000They're going to Stacey Abrams' office in some cases.
00:28:09.000But, Eric, we saw video after video after video of people having piles of ballots, wearing latex gloves, going up to the ballot drop boxes, dropping the ballots in, then taking the gloves off, one after the other, after the other, after the other.
00:28:21.000And, I mean, it's the entire republic that we saw being robbed from.
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00:30:46.000And I really do believe that the science that I present in that book, most people, I really think until you read it, you can't even imagine.
00:30:55.000So how could science be pointing to God?
00:30:58.000Or how could but I really feel like we've done a bad job with the apologetics.
00:31:03.000People need to know that even if you don't want to believe in God, the evidence for God is astonishing.
00:31:12.000So we can quibble about the details, but we can no longer really quibble about whether God exists.
00:31:18.000If you say you're an atheist, it's like saying you're a flat earther.
00:31:21.000I want to counsel you to get off that title.
00:31:24.000There's a chapter in the book or a segment that is pretty remarkable about the archaeological evidence for the event of Sodom and Gomorrah.
00:31:33.000Well, that's actually what made me write the book.
00:31:48.000And I think to myself, if people knew just what's in my book, and there's just tons of other information, but I said, let me gather the kind of greatest hits, you know, from the science, from the archaeology, and a few other things at the end of the book.
00:32:00.000I thought, if people just know this, it's game-changing.
00:32:03.000And it's kind of bizarre that we have churchgoers in America that don't have a clue, that have themselves kind of bought into the idea that faith is at odds with science.
00:32:12.000I mean, that is not only not true, but the opposite.
00:32:15.000And effectively, there was an archaeological discovery that found some fossilized glasses.
00:32:28.000And when you hear something like that, I'm normally skeptical.
00:32:30.000And I think to myself, I've heard, because you hear people say they've discovered Noah's Ark, they've discovered this guy.
00:32:35.000And I go, okay, look, I'm interested, but I think I would have heard if, okay.
00:32:40.000So I looked into it, and it's always the detail.
00:32:43.000There's reasons people haven't heard of it because sometimes the details are a little bit complicated.
00:32:47.000In this case, you had people identifying Sodom and Gomorrah as down by the southern part of the Dead Sea, but there was nothing definitive.
00:32:56.000So they kind of ignored it because it was like, we think it's here, but we don't know, whatever.
00:33:00.000This guy, one day, is reading Genesis.
00:33:04.000He's down by the Dead Sea, about to tell a tour bus, like this is where they think Sodom and Gomorrah is.
00:33:08.000And he's reading Genesis the night before to prepare.
00:33:11.000And it clearly says in Genesis that the cities of the plain were here.
00:33:58.000A five-foot layer of soot that every scientist would say is utterly inexplicable.
00:34:04.000Earthquake, fire, volcano, whatever it is.
00:34:07.000Nothing can explain this except one thing, what they call a cosmic airburst event.
00:34:12.000The scientists call it that because it means a meteor, meteorite, asteroid, whatever, comes into the atmosphere, probably about 200 feet in diameter, so not that big.
00:34:21.000It comes in at 35,000 miles an hour, explodes a few miles above the surface of the planet, right?
00:34:29.000With the explosive power of 1,000 Hiroshima bombs.
00:34:33.000This is what 21 secular scientists concluded after 10 years of going after this guy found it.