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00:01:48.000I mean, I see arguments on both sides, but my main point, my obsession, Jack, is the American Democrat Party, the regime, relentlessly spends money on early on the three-state infrastructure, Georgia, Arizona, Wisconsin.
00:02:02.000And we on the right are not doing that.
00:02:04.000We're in a limited resources battle, whether it be ballot chasing, election integrity, law fair, all these things that need to happen in those three states.
00:02:11.000And the more we indulge in the horse race, the less I'm afraid we're going to do those three states.
00:02:16.000And I think Donald Trump's going to be the nominee, whether he has to go through the long, drawn-out process or not.
00:02:35.000There is a certain pool of money, right?
00:02:37.000And I'll steal man your argument, right?
00:02:39.000There's a certain pool of money that conservatives, Republicans, libertarian types, people who might be more amenable to a center-right coalition or just maybe even just anti-left, right?
00:02:54.000That will be spent between now and November 2024.
00:02:57.000So, what you're talking about is what is the best way to deploy that pool of money and having a costly primary only eventually does help the left.
00:03:09.000I certainly agree with that from a logistics standpoint.
00:03:12.000That being said, I do also think that uncontested primaries are not good in the long run because I think that by having a contested primary, I mean, that's how we hash these things out.
00:04:05.000I mean, I look forward to the obliteration of the uniparty and us being able to show them how the Republican Party has changed and showing that contrast.
00:04:14.000I thought they got the message in 2016, but apparently they need a reminder, so they will receive one.
00:04:30.000You know, it'll be like Lord's Prayer, Pledge of Allegiance, and then Charlie Kirk's rant on 2024, which is, what are we doing today to win Fulton County, Cobb County, Maricopa County, lose Pima by Less, run up the score in Yava, Pie and Mojave, win Kenosha, Waukesha, and Eauclair?
00:04:46.000If we're not doing something material today to do those three things, then we're going to lose in 2024.
00:04:53.000No, I wasn't at the president's or President Trump's, I should say, speech at the RNC summit, but we do have the leaked bit to Politico.
00:05:05.000I haven't gotten a full transcript of it yet, but I should be getting the full, at least prepared remarks.
00:05:09.000But Politico did report that he specifically gave a full-throated pitch for ballot harvesting, A.B. Chase, mail-in vote operations in every single state that it's legal.
00:05:20.000And I think that's absolutely the way to get there.
00:05:23.000But to your point, Charlie, those are not cheap.
00:05:41.000Well, I was going to say, this is what they did on the left in essentially sort of during 2016 and then predominantly after was that they basically decided to start bypassing the DNC.
00:05:53.000So if you look on the left, they downsized it.
00:06:21.000And they, you know, they put the logo up with the debates and at the at the convention with dravic in Chicago, which is just absolutely hilarious.
00:06:30.000And they have these outside groups and super PACs and dark money groups, the very same thing that they used to rail against.
00:06:38.000This was like Elizabeth Warren's whole career was based on attacking these things.
00:06:42.000But actually, no, that's what the National Democrats have realized is that they want to be pouring money all over.
00:06:48.000It's like when you look up the Soros prosecutors and you're trying to find, okay, who did George Soros give money to?
00:06:55.000And it's actually very complicated how the money goes through because there's this group and then they have a 527 that they move the money to and there's a statewide group and wait.
00:07:03.000And the name's like one word off from the other name.
00:07:07.000So you're not sure if it's the right group until you pull the 990.
00:07:09.000It's this massive shell game that they've created.
00:07:12.000But what it allows them to do is have total control over the direct spending rather than going through the party process, which of course, then you deal with committee men, you deal with delegates on the Democrat side.
00:08:28.000And essentially what Obama did, because of how much small dollar donors he had and the rise of internet fundraising and the increase of digital capability to micro-target, he opened the new era of mass spending on campaigns.
00:08:44.000Barack Obama himself, the man that was railing against money in politics, he said, no public financing of elections.
00:09:14.000Well, so what he's done there is create a situation where it's completely outside what we would consider the normal bounds of politics.
00:09:24.000And keep in mind, in that very same campaign, he had to pay the largest fee ever, the largest fine ever from the FEC, over a million dollars, because they weren't even tracking this.
00:09:33.000But again, the Democrats learned, and I'll give them credit for this, they learned that if you can win on tactics, you don't need to win on strategy.
00:09:40.000That if you can just beat everyone on the tactics and the logistics of how elections are run, how ballots are collected, then your strategy doesn't even matter that much.
00:09:49.000Your candidate doesn't even matter that much.
00:09:51.000I could say that as a son of Pennsylvania, where I'm now represented by a brain-dead, lumbering lurch as a senator.
00:09:58.000If they can elect two brain dead people, elect, I put in quotes, right?
00:10:31.000That's what's going to determine the future of the republic.
00:10:36.000I don't know about you, but it takes a lot to shock me these days.
00:10:39.000To see our judicial system resemble a third world banana republic, to see trusted American companies embrace insane and destructive woke ideologies is sometimes depressing.
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00:12:24.000The way they teach it to kids now is not as it is in the Second Amendment, which is in my beautiful, handy Turning Point USA Constitution, which has the explicit words: a well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of free state, the right of people to keep bare in arms shall not be infringed.
00:12:40.000It says, because it modernizes the amendments.
00:12:54.000I actually, wait, off, off, off, behind the scenes, I actually asked Charlie the other day about the Amplified Bible, and you were like, no, no Amplified Bible.
00:13:48.000But because on this pardon thing, he's done the right thing.
00:13:52.000On the Daniel Perry thing, I got to give him credit.
00:13:53.000Wait, no, I was in Austin over the weekend and Charlie, you should see every so we went to the actual street corner where it happened and then every you know the Austin Chronicle and all these liberal headlines out there across every newspaper.
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00:18:58.000Before the indictment, what we saw, even when his lead weakened somewhat, you know, Ron DeSantis at about 30%, him falling as low as 43 in our polling.
00:19:09.000What we saw was the Republican primary is not going to be dominated by educated white voters.
00:19:15.000It will be at least 40 to 60% working class in these states.
00:19:20.000And Trump's 30-point hold with these voters at least has to be broken for them to mathematically challenge him.
00:19:29.000Even when they were beating him down to the low 40s, he still was at a point where it would be very difficult to amass a plurality or even in a head-to-head, a bare majority against him.
00:19:41.000What we've seen since, and it's more than the indictment.
00:20:29.000And if you say yes, run, what would you do to try to get some path towards via ability?
00:20:36.000The risk to him losing and hurting himself, like a Ted Cruz situation, like a Scott Walker situation, you have now taken yourself out as a national consideration or national office being considered for national office as far as the presidency.
00:20:51.000It is so great that under no circumstances would I tell Ron DeSantis to run for president.
00:20:56.000This is something that has to be said.
00:20:58.000There are a lot of people around Ron DeSantis and supporting him and pushing him that have basically been expelled or unwelcome in Trump world.
00:21:08.000And they are the ones who really have nothing to lose.
00:21:12.000So if you really like Ron DeSantis and you really see a bright future for him, then if you're looking out for his best interests, your only advice could be save it.
00:24:52.000That last Sunday was really bad for him.
00:24:54.000People started to realize, Ken Griffin, really, you know, the Ricketts, really?
00:25:00.000I mean, it doesn't work for these voters.
00:25:02.000And, you know, you can attack and mock all you want.
00:25:06.000But the people who support DeSantis and the people who hate Donald Trump have to understand something.
00:25:11.000You had six years to win over these people who voted for Barack Obama twice and then voted for Donald Trump.
00:25:16.000You had six years to win over the people who voted for Barack Obama twice, then voted for Trump, maybe even went to Biden, but now we're back to Trump.
00:25:24.000You had six years to win these people over.
00:27:12.000I think the Trump campaign's doing something this year, which again, I mean, as in politics, the question he asked before, there's never just one right answer.
00:27:20.000It's always a coupling of different things that are going on.
00:27:22.000And I think one of the things that really is catching fire for Trump this time around is those who remember 16 and compare it to 20, you cannot be seriously objective and say that something was missing from 2020.
00:27:36.000There was something special that he had this connection with voters in 16 that was lost in 2020.
00:27:42.000Too many consultants, too many people, too many chiefs, and not enough Indians, right?
00:27:46.000In 2024, I think it's 23 now, but moving into 24, they've made a very conscious decision to put Trump back in his element.
00:27:56.000The element I go back and I was looking at UFC and I was looking at McDonald's and Ohio, these moments that he has.
00:28:03.000And I was thinking back to Manchester, New Hampshire in 2015.
00:28:07.000He just showed up at the police department and he just wanted to sit there and shoot the, you know, and shake hands.
00:28:13.000And I remember watching and there was cops getting on the phone with people they knew at the firehouse up the road, like, oh my God, Donald Trump is here.
00:29:08.000You know, the bottom line is you're in a better position than most Americans and you have a way to have a platform and have a voice or to exercise some kind of control over your life.
00:30:11.000So, Rich, I am going to ask you, you know, is there evidence to show that longer primaries make us more likely to win?
00:30:16.000What does history tell us in that regard?
00:30:19.000I personally am only, this is my mantra.
00:30:22.000What are we doing today to win Kenosha County, Waukesha County, Fulton County, Cobb County, Maricopa, lose Pima by less and run up the score in Yavapai and Mojave?
00:30:31.000If you can't answer that question every single day, then we are not going to win the White House in 2024.
00:30:37.000In fact, I said this to a group of donors over the weekend and I said, we're probably going to lose in 2024.
00:31:33.000Just you actually took my example to the T. John Fetterman is not competent, and yet Democrats in the state of Pennsylvania voted for him blindly.
00:32:21.000I think 22 should have woke people up, but they didn't.
00:32:24.000Still, it really does depend who the nominee is, considering I think it's overwhelming.
00:32:31.000Look, Trump is a former president, and people ask me all the time, but the early frontrunner in the primary polling doesn't go on to be the nominee.
00:32:39.000That's not always true, but it has typically been true.
00:32:41.000The problem here is we're making that the historical comparison.
00:32:46.000We don't have one, Charlie, for people.
00:32:49.000And we hear DeSantis supporters, Haley supporters use this argument.
00:32:52.000We don't have a historical comparison with a former president who's still largely beloved by the party, who they now just turned into a martyr.
00:34:44.000And by the way, that's even cooler than anything Democrats can do by calling up their Hollywood friends.
00:34:50.000I mean, you really touched on something before, which is why I think he is competitive in these states, you know, Wisconsin, looking at how poorly Dan Kelly did.
00:34:59.000We went over these maps in great details.
00:35:04.000How does Donald Trump do so well in what we call lumberjack country in Wisconsin?
00:35:08.000While Democrats still can crush a Republican like Romney, like Dan Kelly, you know, where they pegged him in the 30s in these counties, in Douglas, in Bayfield, and Ashland, right?