The Charlie Kirk Show - Public Nudity, Fentanyl, and the Queer Agenda—LIVE from On Campus at C.U. Boulder

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today the Charlie Kirk show my conversation from Boulder, Colorado.

00:00:04.000 Met with some disagreement and opposition and antagonism.

00:00:06.000 I think you'll enjoy my remarks, followed by the question and answer, which is always the most fun.

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00:00:32.000 Here we go.

00:00:33.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

00:00:35.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.

00:00:37.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.

00:00:40.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.

00:00:44.000 I want to thank Charlie.

00:00:45.000 He's an incredible guy.

00:00:46.000 His spirit, his love of this country.

00:00:48.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.

00:00:54.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.

00:01:03.000 That's why we are here.

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00:01:15.000 Welcome.

00:01:16.000 Thanks for being here.

00:01:17.000 And it's great to be in Colorado.

00:01:20.000 And it took you like 10 seconds, man.

00:01:23.000 I didn't even say hello yet.

00:01:23.000 Jeez.

00:01:25.000 At least make your heckling like decipherable.

00:01:28.000 What did you say?

00:01:29.000 Okay.

00:01:30.000 Great to be here.

00:01:31.000 And there will be an opportunity to ask a question.

00:01:50.000 That's a new record, I have to say.

00:01:52.000 It's like seven seconds.

00:01:53.000 They don't even let me get up on stage anymore.

00:01:56.000 It's amazing.

00:01:57.000 I wish we would have had a chance to talk, but speech is not a left-wing value.

00:02:02.000 It isn't, unfortunately.

00:02:04.000 So if anyone has any disagreements, there will be an opportunity to be able to voice them uninterrupted at some point.

00:02:11.000 But we're going to take the first 20 or 30 minutes to make sure you know a little bit of what I believe, why I believe what I believe.

00:02:16.000 First of all, thank you to our Turning Point USA chapter for putting this on.

00:02:19.000 God bless you guys.

00:02:20.000 You're doing such an amazing job.

00:02:22.000 And considering some of the nonsense you have to put up with that.

00:02:28.000 But I do want to thank this university for allowing this event to happen.

00:02:32.000 I don't make a habit out of thanking universities, but C Boulder deserves credit.

00:02:36.000 And thanks and gratitude for allowing this event to happen.

00:02:39.000 So thank you.

00:02:40.000 I bash universities a lot and they had a lot of reasons to try to pull the cord.

00:02:44.000 So thank you.

00:02:45.000 We deeply appreciate that.

00:02:47.000 My friend Victor Marks is here somewhere.

00:02:48.000 Where's Victor?

00:02:49.000 Victor's around here somewhere.

00:02:50.000 He's got an amazing dog around.

00:02:52.000 He's got Victor's back there, native Colorado.

00:02:52.000 There he is.

00:02:55.000 And I'm telling you, that guy, he does amazing work rescuing children who are being sex trafficked all around the world.

00:03:01.000 Victor is a great hero.

00:03:02.000 He does an amazing job.

00:03:07.000 So might as well get into the controversial stuff that gets people so fired up.

00:03:11.000 What is with this all-gender bathroom stuff? 0.99

00:03:13.000 Like, what on earth is that all about?

00:03:15.000 I mean, I live in Arizona.

00:03:17.000 We don't have that, obviously.

00:03:19.000 And so, you know, it's you go in there and it's like boys and girls both in the same restroom.

00:03:24.000 I got thinking to myself, how did this happen?

00:03:26.000 And it happened for a couple reasons.

00:03:28.000 One of the reasons is that, so we reconfigure society altogether to try to accommodate and pander to a hyper-vocal minority that itself will never actually be happy, regardless of how many kind of changes we make for the alphabet mafia. 0.59

00:03:44.000 It's never going to be enough, right?

00:03:46.000 So bathrooms, pronouns, whatever.

00:03:49.000 But then it's like, no, actually, now we have to teach your four-year-old all about whether or not they need to transition or not.

00:03:55.000 And that's a really good lesson for life, I think, right?

00:03:58.000 Which is just because you think you're going to pander to a certain force doesn't necessarily mean the issue is going to go away altogether.

00:04:06.000 And I just, I look at that example, and it could be a silly example.

00:04:08.000 I remember when the whole bathroom thing was going on, people said, you know, what difference does it make?

00:04:13.000 It's not that big of a deal.

00:04:15.000 And it does make a big deal, quite honestly, for the safety of women, which always used to kind of be an argument of feminism, right? 1.00

00:04:21.000 Which is feminism was always that we don't want to be exploited by men. 1.00

00:04:25.000 We believe men and women are different. 1.00

00:04:26.000 I look back and I say, boy, I kind of agree with a lot of the main tenets of like 1960s and 1970s feminism. 1.00

00:04:32.000 I think a lot of like putting your career over family is a bunch of nonsense, but like believing that men and women have fundamental biological differences, like I can sign up for that. 0.97

00:04:40.000 But kind of blending it all together in this kind of gender-fluid nonsense, it's not just bad for society, it's bad for women. 1.00

00:04:46.000 But of course, we can't define what a woman is anymore, including Katanji Brown Jackson, who's now going to be on the U.S. Supreme Court, asked a very simple question: What is a woman? 0.99

00:04:55.000 And she said, I'm not a biologist.

00:04:57.000 And so therefore, I'm not able to answer it.

00:04:59.000 So, look, I'm not a veterinarian.

00:05:01.000 I know a dog when I see one.

00:05:02.000 I'm not a weatherman.

00:05:03.000 I know when it's raining.

00:05:04.000 I know a woman when I see one as well. 1.00

00:05:06.000 You don't need to be a biologist to be able to decipher some very simple biological truths.

00:05:10.000 But it goes to this question, which is: so, you can have your own opinions on the trans issue.

00:05:14.000 We could talk about that all you want.

00:05:15.000 You can ask me anything you want about that.

00:05:17.000 But the question, the real question is: do you reconfigure society based on your hyper-radical minority opinion?

00:05:24.000 That's a separate question, right?

00:05:26.000 So, your own opinions aside, do you then start to change actually the way society is structured because you think it's actually going to accommodate people?

00:05:34.000 And the answer should probably be: well, it depends on what your goal is and what your outcome is.

00:05:39.000 And going into all gender restroom, I don't really know what the goal of that is. 1.00

00:05:42.000 I don't know how that makes anyone safer or happier, except people were tired of being screamed at in the legislature and they're like, okay, fine, I'll sign a bill.

00:05:50.000 And then they move on to the next issue.

00:05:51.000 That's the only thing I could possibly think of.

00:05:53.000 It doesn't make anybody happier or healthier.

00:05:55.000 It doesn't make America a freer country.

00:05:57.000 And it certainly is not something that I want to dedicate like our entire tour to.

00:06:01.000 We have serious problems in our country.

00:06:02.000 I'm not saying that's not a problem, but our borders wide open, inflation's double digits.

00:06:07.000 We'll talk about that tonight.

00:06:09.000 And so it's tempting not to want to talk about these issues, right?

00:06:12.000 Like, oh, Charlie, why do you spend so much time on the trans issue?

00:06:15.000 And I wish I wouldn't, honestly.

00:06:17.000 I wish I didn't have to, I should say.

00:06:18.000 But then I got to thinking: if we can't define what a man or a woman is, how could we ever answer the more complicated questions in society?

00:06:26.000 And this is one of my big arguments of why we shouldn't send U.S. troops to Ukraine, which is if we can't even get 90% agreement on like the most fundamental issues, how are we going to actually get into the more complicated things, such as combat of war, theaters of war, things of that nature?

00:06:40.000 And so these conversations are super important.

00:06:43.000 And it's a very interesting dynamic because 99% of Americans believe men cannot become pregnant, right?

00:06:49.000 That's 99% of Americans.

00:06:51.000 And if it makes you chuckle, it should, right?

00:06:54.000 But unfortunately, that's Apple, the company Apple, they come out with a pregnant man emoji, right?

00:07:00.000 They say, we don't take us, it's birthing people according to the White House, which, of course, is patently insane.

00:07:06.000 And so, but 99% of people are also afraid to talk about it, right?

00:07:11.000 So it's an issue that most people say, yes, I think this is crazy.

00:07:14.000 I know that men and women have biological differences.

00:07:16.000 I know it's wrong when a swimmer, you know, just instantly transitions from a man to a woman, is the 462nd best swimmer, then becomes an NCAA champion. 0.84

00:07:26.000 I know there's something wrong with that.

00:07:28.000 But it gets to kind of why it's happening.

00:07:31.000 And it's happening because the power of intimidation is the most powerful political weapon right now in America.

00:07:38.000 Is that people are afraid of losing their jobs?

00:07:40.000 I get it.

00:07:41.000 You're afraid of getting kicked out of school.

00:07:42.000 I get it.

00:07:43.000 You're afraid of being kicked out of fraternities or sororities.

00:07:46.000 I get it.

00:07:47.000 I understand all of that.

00:07:48.000 I would argue that contesting and fighting for the truth is more important than those things, but you make your own decision, obviously.

00:07:54.000 But they've basically wired society where if you violate one of these ever-changing rules, by the way, you're going to lose something that actually you might respect.

00:08:03.000 And so you have this situation.

00:08:06.000 And I know a lot of you are living under this right now.

00:08:08.000 A lot of you, right?

00:08:08.000 I mean, we just had a meeting before, and I won't say who I said this to.

00:08:12.000 She's probably super nervous because she could get kicked out of school if I dare said who I met with, right?

00:08:16.000 Is that she said to me, yeah, there's like this secret group of conservatives in our school that we're in here.

00:08:21.000 I won't say what school I don't want to, you know, out that person because it's your own decision.

00:08:25.000 You make whatever you want.

00:08:26.000 Kind of feels like homosexuality in the 1970s, by the way.

00:08:28.000 It sounds like super similar, right?

00:08:30.000 Like coming out of the closet.

00:08:31.000 I've said for a long time, I come under huge criticism that it's much harder to be conservative in America than to be gay in America right now.

00:08:38.000 It's not even close.

00:08:39.000 There's a lot of similarities.

00:08:40.000 People get so angry when I say that, but it's true. 1.00

00:08:43.000 Okay.

00:08:43.000 One of them, you have an entire month, one of them gets you fired from jobs and picked out of school.

00:08:48.000 So which one's easier?

00:08:48.000 Okay.

00:08:50.000 And so it's, I know a lot of you tonight come to these events and you're like, wow, I'm not the only person that thinks this way, right?

00:08:57.000 And I know there's some good professors here at CU Boulder, more bad ones than good ones, from what I can understand.

00:09:04.000 But it's an important moment.

00:09:06.000 And I believe this, and I have so much respect for Joe Rogan.

00:09:08.000 I don't agree with him on everything.

00:09:10.000 Obviously, you know, the unrestricted drug use, I'm not a big fan of.

00:09:13.000 But I have to say, Joe Rogan has had more courage than most people that call themselves conservatives over the last couple of years.

00:09:20.000 And Joe Rogan, what he's done, and I think a lot of you and a lot of young people in particular are now kind of part of this Joe Rogan political kind of moment where it's like, okay, I'm not a conservative.

00:09:30.000 I might be a libertarian.

00:09:31.000 I'm not libertarian in a lot of things, but that's fine.

00:09:33.000 But I don't like the woke stuff.

00:09:34.000 Don't tell me how to live my life and don't lie to me.

00:09:37.000 And, you know, don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining, right?

00:09:40.000 Like, don't do that.

00:09:41.000 And to like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk's credit, I think that there's this huge opportunity with young people in particular to try and communicate values that we would call conservative values rooted in free markets or private property rights or constitutional constitutional government that has now just been kind of characterized as like radical right-wing ideas.

00:10:01.000 And one of the most obvious ones, there was this huge study that came out from the National Bureau of Economic Research, is something that impacts all of you, which is our insane response to the virus over the last couple of years.

00:10:13.000 Now, this is something that drives me nuts, right?

00:10:15.000 And I'm sure CU Boulder participated in this, which is how we describe what happened the last couple of years, right?

00:10:22.000 So we can get into Chinese aspects of it and all that and how China's gotten away with it. 0.91

00:10:26.000 We could talk about that.

00:10:27.000 But more importantly, we say, well, the virus is the reason why unemployment went up or the virus.

00:10:32.000 No, it was our reaction to the virus.

00:10:34.000 Two totally different things.

00:10:36.000 Virus, reaction to the virus.

00:10:38.000 And what we saw at certain states, anyone from New Jersey or Illinois or California?

00:10:41.000 Probably a lot of Californians in here. 0.98

00:10:42.000 No, not so much.

00:10:44.000 Okay, couple.

00:10:45.000 That certain states decide, they made decisions, right, where they said that they were going to lock down the entire society, mask children, force vaccines on people.

00:10:58.000 And Colorado was bad with lockdowns.

00:11:00.000 You guys weren't the worst.

00:11:01.000 I'll just be very honest.

00:11:02.000 You were not the worst.

00:11:03.000 You're rated right in the middle.

00:11:04.000 I think it was way too draconian at times, especially with the vaccine mandates.

00:11:08.000 I'll get to that in a second because I know it's impacting some of our turning point USA chapter leaders here.

00:11:13.000 But all things being equal, all things being said, over the last couple of years, your life has been significantly impacted.

00:11:20.000 Those here, they're 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, by public health officials that were never elected, that were never voted for, that were largely unknown before.

00:11:28.000 And then a couple of years later, everything costs three times as much.

00:11:32.000 The society is completely and totally different, right?

00:11:34.000 And so I think, and I hope and I pray that the unintended consequence of our reaction to this virus can be hopefully millions of young people say, wait a second, like California, New York, New Jersey, Illinois were the worst performing states.

00:11:50.000 If you combine a blended number, according to the National Bureau of Economic Research, of lockdowns, jobs, death rates, virus transmission rates, and child educational outputs.

00:11:59.000 You can look at the study yourself, National Bureau of Economic Research, no political bias whatsoever.

00:12:04.000 And the top 10 best performing states are states like Utah, Florida, South Dakota, Nebraska.

00:12:09.000 Do you see kind of a commonality there?

00:12:11.000 One that believes that in this entire idea that men can become pregnant, and one that believes that businesses can become open. 0.73

00:12:17.000 And this is become open and you can flourish.

00:12:20.000 And this is, I think, the decision for our generation and something that we can explain, which is, do you apply the insane and quite honestly, easily disproven theory and ideology you're taught in college to the rest of the world?

00:12:35.000 Or do you actually believe you're lying on us?

00:12:37.000 And that is the moment that's happening right now in America where it's like, wait a second, I just watched the Super Bowl and Gavin Newsome and Matt Damon, they don't have to wear masks, but the kids in schools have to wear masks in California.

00:12:49.000 Or it's like, you know, you can march in the George Floyd parade, but you have to stay at home locked down with everything else.

00:12:55.000 And it's this inherent contradiction in a lot of these things.

00:12:58.000 We call it wokeism.

00:12:59.000 That's a good filler word for it, right?

00:13:01.000 And I believe firmly that a lot of younger people, they still want a part of their American dream.

00:13:06.000 They do.

00:13:06.000 And they feel as if they've been lied to and intentionally misled by these group of people in charge, which is why I think Joe Rogan resonates so much and Elon Musk resonates so much.

00:13:16.000 And so it really kind of goes to this question, which is what is the path forward that young people are going to choose?

00:13:22.000 We can talk politically if you want, but more importantly, it's like, what set of circumstances are you going to apply to your or set of principles you'll apply to your life to hopefully improve the conditions around you?

00:13:34.000 And so first I'll talk to the adults kind of 50 plus and then I'll talk to everybody else.

00:13:39.000 Students have been scammed the last couple of years.

00:13:41.000 They have.

00:13:42.000 It's been a raw deal and it needs to be said out loud and needs to be repeated.

00:13:46.000 I'm not blaming every person over 50.

00:13:48.000 That would be inappropriate, obviously.

00:13:51.000 But never before has a generation been so impacted for no good reason.

00:13:58.000 There's no good reason to do what we did to young people.

00:14:00.000 Zero whatsoever.

00:14:01.000 There is no good reason.

00:14:03.000 And yet, whether it be IQ development stunted, whether it be job openings that were thwarted, whether it be just the simple principle of can an average 28 something afford a home.

00:14:18.000 Young people now are being priced out of the housing markets in ways we have never seen before.

00:14:23.000 Rent in Phoenix, Arizona, I guarantee you it's very similar in Denver, right?

00:14:26.000 Very similar.

00:14:27.000 They're going up by six or $700, $800 a month.

00:14:30.000 And based on what I've heard, it's very similar in Denver.

00:14:33.000 And so we're creating a nation of renters, people that don't own stuff, which is less likely for a person to be conservative.

00:14:38.000 The longer you rent, the more likely you are to be a left-winger.

00:14:41.000 It's just true.

00:14:42.000 When you own something, you care about property values going up.

00:14:42.000 Think about it.

00:14:45.000 It's the tragedy of the commons.

00:14:47.000 When you're renting something, you don't feel the skin in the game.

00:14:50.000 The left talks about equity.

00:14:51.000 The equity I want to talk about is how can we make young people own homes easier?

00:14:54.000 It's a very important thing, and it's going down dramatically.

00:14:57.000 And so we shut down the country, we print $8 trillion of new money, we inject it into the economy, we lock everybody down, and specifically, and in a really cruel way, we lock down the portion of the population, the young people in this audience, that were not at any sort of significant risk from having a severe time or dying from this virus.

00:15:16.000 And so you look at this entire thing, you say, wait a second, this is generational theft.

00:15:21.000 This is the older generation that went and made a deliberate decision.

00:15:23.000 And I'm not blaming all the, I got these emails.

00:15:25.000 Oh my goodness.

00:15:26.000 Charlie, we've never done anything wrong.

00:15:28.000 Young people have to work harder and all that. 0.95

00:15:30.000 Okay, I get it.

00:15:30.000 There's some lazy young people out there.

00:15:32.000 But news flash, most young people aren't lazy, actually.

00:15:34.000 They're not.

00:15:35.000 They're just trying to figure out how to make their way in this world and not say something wrong that could get them fired.

00:15:39.000 How are they supposed to manage their $100,000 in student loan debt?

00:15:42.000 What are they supposed to do with this completely senseless degree that they were told to get?

00:15:46.000 And then what job are they supposed to find with that degree?

00:15:49.000 There's a lot of different circumstances for a college graduate today than there were in 1985.

00:15:54.000 It's just a fact.

00:15:55.000 And so the question is: what do younger voters then start to demand, or what do younger people start to demand?

00:16:00.000 They have two choices, right?

00:16:02.000 So the left, my speech would be super easy if I was on the left tonight, right?

00:16:05.000 But it would be untrue.

00:16:06.000 I'd be lying to you.

00:16:07.000 It'd be, okay, all these bad things happened to you.

00:16:09.000 Therefore, give me political power and I'm going to forgive your student loan debt.

00:16:13.000 I'll give you stuff for free and everything will be fine, right?

00:16:16.000 Now, why is first of all, I don't think there's any dignity in that.

00:16:19.000 I actually think it creates unhappy people to get stuff for free over a long period of time.

00:16:23.000 I think it actually deteriorates the individual capacity to flourish.

00:16:26.000 You know this.

00:16:27.000 You know, someone that gets everything for nothing. 0.99

00:16:29.000 They're some of the most miserable people in the world.

00:16:31.000 I think earned success is a moral good for a society.

00:16:34.000 We have to make it easier for young people to be able to have earned success.

00:16:37.000 However, I don't think, and this is the other side of the coin, I don't think it's helpful just to kind of condescendingly tell students and young people, like, I worked hard my way through college, so should you, and just figure it out.

00:16:50.000 Pull yourself up by the bootstraps.

00:16:52.000 There can be an element to that.

00:16:53.000 I'll talk to some, I'll talk to the students directly in a second, but it would be unfair.

00:16:57.000 It's just the numbers just don't add up, by the way.

00:16:59.000 If you look at how much it costs to get through four years at CU Boulder here versus how much it would have cost adjusted for inflation 35 years ago, it's like quadrupled minimum, not to mention room and board, not to mention the other costs associated.

00:17:14.000 And the college degree is actually worth less.

00:17:16.000 It's not worthless, but you could argue that.

00:17:18.000 It's actually worth less than it was 35 to 40 years ago.

00:17:22.000 And so you have a generation that I think it's a combustible engine.

00:17:27.000 I think it's about to take off.

00:17:28.000 Go either way, that's about to come out and say, and they're just waiting for the political leader to say it, I've done everything you've told me to do for the last decade, and I'm poorer than my parents.

00:17:37.000 I'm way more unhappy.

00:17:38.000 It's the most depressed, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, anxious generation, suicidal generation in history.

00:17:44.000 And the question would be like, why am I going to keep on just giving political power to the people that say I just have to work harder?

00:17:51.000 Okay, so working harder is good.

00:17:53.000 Don't get me wrong.

00:17:54.000 But the three things that we as conservatives should have a very meaningful conversation about is the three conservatizing events, right?

00:18:00.000 We have to make it easier to do these three things.

00:18:02.000 And restricting government spending in a very serious way and bringing down inflation can help all these three things happen, right?

00:18:08.000 Because inflation affects everybody in this room.

00:18:10.000 It's not a sexy topic, but it's something that's super important, especially if you drive, right?

00:18:10.000 We'll talk about it.

00:18:15.000 It costs like $900 to drive from Colorado Springs to Boulder now, right?

00:18:18.000 Or whatever, probably $150.

00:18:20.000 And that's somewhat of an exaggeration, depending on what you drive, which is we need to make it easier to buy homes and buy property.

00:18:26.000 We want young people to have skin in the game.

00:18:29.000 Here's a rule for life.

00:18:30.000 People that own property don't burn down Wendy's. 0.96

00:18:34.000 Okay?

00:18:35.000 When you own stuff, you don't want to see the society burn.

00:18:42.000 You got to keep getting a job, right?

00:18:43.000 Owning things is a moral good.

00:18:45.000 So if I asked some of the 50-plus people in this audience, you guys have, a lot of you have gotten double or triple, at least double wealthier as far as the proportion of your real estate value over the last couple of years because you print all this money, right?

00:19:00.000 And so big beneficiaries, right?

00:19:02.000 I'm a homeowner, actually, got a mortgage in 2018.

00:19:04.000 Pretty good decision, right?

00:19:06.000 It's gone up double in value.

00:19:07.000 But what about the recent college grad who's like, wait a second, like real wages are not keeping up with inflation.

00:19:13.000 How am I supposed to even make the down payment, let alone the mortgage payment?

00:19:16.000 That creates cynicism, okay?

00:19:19.000 Very quickly, that'll be translated into very radical left-wing politics, like very radical, where I'm talking like people are going to be saying outwardly, let's confiscate all the property from the baby boomers and give it to Gen X or Gen Z and millennials. 0.97

00:19:32.000 Now, I don't support that, but you can see there's a single person who's enthusiastic about that.

00:19:38.000 But I'm trying to warn you, especially if you care about like de-radicalizing American politics, which you should all care about, right?

00:19:46.000 You have not seen legit Marxism.

00:19:48.000 Well, we sort of have, but like communicated in the way that it happens in other countries where that sort of reverse redistribution message will be very, very compelling to a 30-year-old who did everything they were told to do.

00:20:02.000 I took the AP classes.

00:20:04.000 I took the honors classes.

00:20:05.000 I didn't totally screw up in high school.

00:20:07.000 I went to CU Boulder.

00:20:09.000 I had the job.

00:20:10.000 I studied what I was supposed to study.

00:20:12.000 Like, I got a degree in North African lesbian poetry.

00:20:15.000 I can't find.

00:20:17.000 I can't find a job, right?

00:20:19.000 I'm renting.

00:20:20.000 I'm still $120,000 in debt.

00:20:24.000 I demand a refund.

00:20:26.000 Now, how do you prevent against that?

00:20:29.000 You need to transition as many of the people as possible that were sold that lie.

00:20:34.000 And it was, by the way, the other rules they had to follow, stay at home, don't leave your home, wear a mask, get the vaccine, all this sort of stuff, right?

00:20:41.000 Rules, rules, rules, rules.

00:20:43.000 And they followed it.

00:20:44.000 That's what's so interesting.

00:20:45.000 I call it like the rule-following generation.

00:20:48.000 Every time a decree came forward, okay, I'll go to college.

00:20:50.000 Okay, I'll get the degree.

00:20:51.000 Okay, I'll take the honors classes.

00:20:52.000 Okay, I'll do this.

00:20:53.000 I'll stay at home.

00:20:54.000 I'll help stop the spread.

00:20:55.000 And then they enter into a world.

00:20:56.000 They're like, wow, everything's super expensive and really depressing and mean.

00:21:00.000 And there's 110,000 people dying from drug overdoses.

00:21:03.000 That's a problem.

00:21:04.000 And that's a problem that transcends politics, by the way.

00:21:07.000 But what's going to happen, because the left is really good at this, they're political predators, they are, they're going to come in and capture this suffering and promise things they can't deliver and try to weaponize it towards a very radical thing.

00:21:20.000 So what's the other two things we should argue for?

00:21:21.000 And this is something that I think is having a revival in this country in a good way.

00:21:25.000 You might not see it yet, which is we need to make it easier to buy property and own property, get married, and then have children.

00:21:33.000 Those three things we need to make it easier for.

00:21:35.000 Now, getting married.

00:21:37.000 Yeah, we can get into why I'm a big fan of getting married.

00:21:39.000 I'm married myself.

00:21:40.000 All young people should get married young and have lots of children. 0.91

00:21:43.000 Reject hookup culture and all this garbage they teach you on college campuses.

00:21:46.000 It'll make you a miserable person and potentially could create liabilities for the rest of your life. 0.71

00:21:51.000 So take that for whatever it's worth.

00:21:53.000 It might not resonate with you, but you'll be happier.

00:21:55.000 Your soul will be settled if you find a soulmate and you do life with that person.

00:22:00.000 So, however, with that being said, marriage rates are now going down dramatically.

00:22:05.000 I think because we have hyper-feminized the men and we have created women to be hyper-masculine. 0.91

00:22:12.000 So we have super angry, you know, 33-year-old women that have corporate success and they can't, they're like, where's all the men? 1.00

00:22:19.000 Well, they're playing video games, right?

00:22:20.000 Like that's what they're doing, right?

00:22:21.000 Nothing against that.

00:22:22.000 I'm all for that, whatever, sure.

00:22:25.000 Not exactly the way to make a society flourish.

00:22:28.000 Population rates are going down dramatically right now.

00:22:31.000 We're on the verge of a population collapse.

00:22:33.000 Fact.

00:22:34.000 We are having less babies than ever before per capita.

00:22:36.000 And this is what the most amazing thing is.

00:22:39.000 If you kind of look, you're like, wow, you're going to have 330 million people locked up, you know, during a pandemic.

00:22:47.000 Birth rates are going to skyrocket.

00:22:50.000 The opposite happened.

00:22:51.000 They went down, which goes to show people are choosing using technology, birth control, not to have children.

00:22:59.000 Why?

00:23:00.000 Well, the reason why most people choose not to have children is because of finances.

00:23:04.000 It's not that they don't want them.

00:23:06.000 It's just financially unattainable for a lot of families to be able to support children.

00:23:10.000 They're expensive.

00:23:11.000 And creating $8 trillion out of thin air didn't help that, by the way.

00:23:15.000 And so you have this moment where, of course, the political predators, the left is going to come in and they'll be like, vote for us, free stuff, all this.

00:23:23.000 Whoa.

00:23:24.000 So you got to think to yourself, which side should actually stand for family formation, getting married and having children?

00:23:31.000 Probably the ones that believe in men and women and believe in absolute truths and believe in actually defending the institution of marriage, right?

00:23:39.000 And so from my experience of young people and a lot of students, they say, I want to at least get a little bit of this aforementioned American dream that I was promised.

00:23:48.000 And here's the thing that I think gets totally misrepresented for any politician that wishes to listen to this, right?

00:23:53.000 Which is that it's not that they gravitate towards some of these left-wing policies out of totally their own choosing.

00:24:01.000 Some of it is because they've been convinced out of their necessity.

00:24:04.000 They're wrong.

00:24:05.000 Now, you got the apparatch, right, that believe outside. 0.91

00:24:08.000 That's a clown show, okay? 0.72

00:24:08.000 You saw that, right? 0.72

00:24:09.000 We could talk about that.

00:24:10.000 But a majority of young people support like Bernie Sanders, not because they find every idea super compelling, but they're like, he's going to set my, he's going to set me free.

00:24:20.000 It's not for free stuff.

00:24:21.000 They actually look at it as freedom.

00:24:22.000 I know that's weird to think about.

00:24:24.000 They're like, he'll get rid of my student loan debt because I got nothing out of college.

00:24:27.000 Like he's going to get rid of the scam that I was put into.

00:24:30.000 So how should conservatives meaningfully address these things?

00:24:33.000 First of all, addressing them, I think, is just first, a good first step to actually know young people, to tell young people you're talking about these things.

00:24:39.000 And then I'm open to any and all ideas that make those three things easier in a market-based way.

00:24:45.000 But then also, let's just take a step back from like the most simple, like and most obvious.

00:24:50.000 And one of the dumbest things we've ever done, and I've kind of mentioned this a couple times, which is when you have more dollar bills chasing, you have more dollar bills than you have value, it's a bad thing for society, okay?

00:25:02.000 Don't need to go into the deep economics of that. 0.94

00:25:04.000 We shouldn't have to spend two hours on it.

00:25:06.000 Yet your political leaders in both parties decided that was a good idea.

00:25:09.000 And so I'm talking about inflation, of course.

00:25:12.000 Inflation makes it harder to buy a home.

00:25:13.000 Inflation makes it harder to get married and have kids.

00:25:15.000 It just does.

00:25:16.000 Every single study shows that.

00:25:17.000 And so what happened during the lockdown, we locked down, never should have done that.

00:25:21.000 And then we say, okay, now when people are less productive than ever, let's go inject trillions of dollars that we don't have.

00:25:28.000 And that's like if you could not design a better equation for inflation.

00:25:32.000 Now, who actually benefits from inflation?

00:25:35.000 So a couple people, rich people do really well in inflation.

00:25:38.000 They can move their assets.

00:25:38.000 They do really well.

00:25:40.000 They could park their assets.

00:25:40.000 You know who else does really well in inflation?

00:25:42.000 People that have debt, also known as homeowners.

00:25:46.000 So if you have a mortgage, your mortgage has actually gone down in the last two years because $500,000 ain't what it used to be.

00:25:54.000 Every year, year over year, CPI is 13%, right?

00:25:57.000 So if you have a mortgage, your mortgage just went down by 13% because the mortgage doesn't change.

00:26:01.000 You signed on the dotted line.

00:26:02.000 It doesn't have your mortgage adjusted to inflation.

00:26:05.000 So as you print more money, if you borrow money, the people that borrow money actually benefit.

00:26:10.000 So for younger people, they're like, okay, the only debt I have is student loan debt, right?

00:26:15.000 And that should appreciate with value, right?

00:26:17.000 It's you.

00:26:17.000 You're investing in yourself.

00:26:19.000 But it really is questionable at times whether or not that actually happens.

00:26:22.000 So when you have more dollar bills and actual things of value in society, it creates this obviously price spike that's happening here.

00:26:32.000 But understand that we're so desensitized in America to believe that a stable currency is promised to us.

00:26:40.000 The dollar and the pound are the only two currencies over the last hundred years that have not been totally reset.

00:26:46.000 That resets of currencies happen all the time.

00:26:48.000 And so when you see, so for example, they came out today, they said the consumer price index is 13.8%, right, year over year.

00:26:54.000 Prices are up 13.8%.

00:26:56.000 I believe it's much higher than.

00:26:57.000 I think it's 25% minimum.

00:26:59.000 And I could prove it.

00:27:00.000 I think in Denver, it's definitely 25%.

00:27:02.000 I think in Phoenix, it's 25%.

00:27:04.000 And so what does that mean?

00:27:05.000 Let's just be very blunt.

00:27:06.000 You're poorer than you were last year, unless you are now earning 26% more than you were last year.

00:27:13.000 And so if you are, then you're probably a business owner that owns student housing, right?

00:27:19.000 Now that's important.

00:27:21.000 Why does student housing do really well?

00:27:23.000 Because you can adjust your rates.

00:27:25.000 So every month, you can say, anything that you can adjust your rates and you have the same basic structural overhead, you do really well in inflation.

00:27:35.000 So people that own property and rent it out, they just make a killing in inflation.

00:27:38.000 Now, who doesn't do well in inflation is people that have to buy substantial amounts of hard products, such as restaurants or fast food chains, and those prices go up by 20, 30%, and everything gets messed up.

00:27:50.000 Therefore, you go to a local bar here in Boulder and I saw it.

00:27:53.000 It was like $21 for chicken wings.

00:27:56.000 And it gets passed on to you, right?

00:27:59.000 And so a very simple way, and this needs to be demanded by every single person, is a clear message of Washington, D.C. is stop spending money you don't have, get closer to a balanced budget, and slow this down.

00:28:10.000 This is so fiscally reckless.

00:28:11.000 And I will say it's a moral injustice happening in America.

00:28:14.000 So inflation, I get so fired up about this.

00:28:16.000 I know it's not a topic people like, but the reason I don't, I get so angry about inflation is it by definition punishes good moral behavior.

00:28:24.000 So what is a good thing that you were told, hopefully, growing up from your parents?

00:28:27.000 Save money, right?

00:28:29.000 Well, guess what?

00:28:30.000 Inflation, by definition, punishes you if you save money.

00:28:34.000 Inflation, if you have money in your bank account, by definition, you're getting poor if that money's not working for you.

00:28:40.000 Therefore, you have to go towards riskier investments.

00:28:42.000 You have to go towards things that are more volatile.

00:28:44.000 And it creates all these other bad economic choices throughout society.

00:28:47.000 And the other thing I don't like about inflation is that it's a tax without your consent.

00:28:52.000 It's that year over year, you're doing your job.

00:28:54.000 You're going to school.

00:28:55.000 You're doing what you're told.

00:28:56.000 And without you ever approving it, it violated the moral principle that we in America are supposed to have, which is consent to the government.

00:29:03.000 Now, if there was a massive ballot referendum that said, yes, I want a 15% price hike and that won in a ballot referendum, then I think I'd be a little less fired up.

00:29:12.000 99% of Americans, well, they should have known in their political choices previously, it's a separate topic though, is they had no idea, despite them making the right choices.

00:29:22.000 Society properly organized will reward people that do the right thing and punish people that do the wrong thing.

00:29:29.000 That's not like overly complicated.

00:29:31.000 But inflation, people get so frenetic, they're like, wow, I have this money in my bank account.

00:29:35.000 I can't keep saving it because I'm losing 13% year over year.

00:29:38.000 And so I think it's a massive moral injustice.

00:29:41.000 And before anyone tries to over-politicize this, I'm going to be very honest.

00:29:44.000 It's both political parties that are to blame for our fiscal and our monetary policy in our country.

00:29:49.000 It's both political parties that have spent trillions of dollars we do not have to get you guys into debt to hyper-inflate our way out of it.

00:29:55.000 And so now we're at this circumstance where people say, you know, what's the solution?

00:29:59.000 Well, unfortunately, when you kind of get on the sugar high, which we have, inflation is a sugar high, you're only left with a couple options.

00:30:06.000 You can continue it.

00:30:06.000 You can keep on eating Twizzlers till you pass out.

00:30:09.000 Or you can actually take a second like, wow, we need to go take cough syrup and get interest rates up to 12 and 13% and slow this down.

00:30:17.000 Cough syrup tastes bad.

00:30:18.000 It's actually good for you long term if you obviously are suffering from something that could help.

00:30:18.000 It's actually bad.

00:30:22.000 The analogy is that we as a society want to keep the quote unquote good times going.

00:30:27.000 So therefore, you're going to see $10 gas.

00:30:29.000 If this continues, you will see $10 gas.

00:30:32.000 And not in like, that's not an exaggeration.

00:30:35.000 I remember last year, we did one of these events and I told people, you'll see $6 gas.

00:30:39.000 And the left wingers laughed in the back row.

00:30:41.000 Well, it's all across California now.

00:30:43.000 $6 is just the way to, I don't know what it is here, probably $450, $475.

00:30:46.000 I'm just guessing.

00:30:48.000 $425.

00:30:49.000 Okay, not too far off.

00:30:51.000 And so this is something that I think that transcends politics.

00:30:54.000 Okay, one or two more things, and we'll get to some questions.

00:30:56.000 Okay.

00:30:58.000 So, yeah, this is the last thing I'll talk about, which is, so what is a country versus a colony?

00:31:05.000 We as Americans are promised, thanks to the structure of government, we get to live in a country.

00:31:08.000 A country requires citizens.

00:31:10.000 In order to be a citizen, you of course need to have legal standing as a citizen.

00:31:14.000 But I also believe, and I will argue, that citizenship is also a cultural issue, that if you bring too many people into your country too quickly and there is no assimilation, in fact, there's an effort to not assimilate, then you're no longer a country, you're a colony. 0.85

00:31:26.000 And so what we're seeing happen on the southern border, if it keeps up, if it continues, one out of five people in America will be illegal in the next three years.

00:31:34.000 One out of five.

00:31:35.000 One out of five, if it continues.

00:31:37.000 So, and I've been down to Yuma, and I've seen it myself.

00:31:41.000 There are, there's a roughly, I'll make sure I get my math right.

00:31:43.000 In Yuma alone, 1,100 illegals coming into America every single day.

00:31:46.000 That's just Yuma, Arizona.

00:31:48.000 And this year it'll be 3 million people.

00:31:50.000 And so it really is a question, right?

00:31:51.000 So the people in charge, they want to turn America into a colony.

00:31:55.000 Kind of a hodgepodge of people that don't have anything in common.

00:31:57.000 You speak different languages.

00:31:58.000 You kind of trade.

00:31:59.000 And it's like, whatever.

00:32:01.000 I want to be a country.

00:32:02.000 I want to be a place where we agree that the Constitution is the greatest political document ever.

00:32:07.000 I want to be a country where a majority of Americans think what happened on Iwo Jima was heroic.

00:32:11.000 I want to be a country that people that know who George S. Patton was, who believe George Washington was an amazing historical figure.

00:32:16.000 And I don't want to have to guess in one in five if that person shares the same American story that I do.

00:32:21.000 And that is a fundamental moral good.

00:32:24.000 And so, again, the problem to kind of tie this all together is that people are afraid to say that because they're afraid of being called all these awful names like racist or whatever, all these sorts of things.

00:32:34.000 Borders are a moral good.

00:32:35.000 A country has a right to determine who comes in their country and when they come. 0.77

00:32:39.000 And it's not just illegal immigration.

00:32:41.000 It's legal immigration as well.

00:32:42.000 1.2 million green cards issued every single year, plus 3 million illegal people coming across the border.

00:32:48.000 And if Title 42 is repealed, it's a very wonky issue, which is basically a health thing that allowed us to deport more people in the last two years under a COVID thing on the southern border.

00:32:59.000 If that gets repealed, okay, you're going to see 5 million people come across the southern border this summer.

00:33:03.000 5 million people.

00:33:04.000 And yet, don't worry, everybody, we sent $14 billion to Ukraine really quick.

00:33:09.000 But for whatever reason, our southern border remains wide open.

00:33:11.000 Yeah, like, excuse me why I don't get enthusiastic about Zelensky while our country gets invaded. 0.65

00:33:14.000 Like, sorry, not on board.

00:33:16.000 You guys can have your own opinions about that, but I actually have a mandate to defend like this country.

00:33:22.000 And I think that every leader should as well.

00:33:24.000 And when they don't sprint to the House floor or the Senate floor to go vote for $14 billion to go secure our southern border, which is desperately needed, we do not have the agents to fulfill what's happening on the southern border.

00:33:34.000 I say that your priorities are all mixed up.

00:33:36.000 Like, I'm not going to call you any of the bad names that people call, but I'm also, I have a lot of doubt about you as a political leader in both parties, if you prioritize the needs and wants and interests of a foreign country over actually our own nation, especially when we are heading in the direction that we are heading on our southern border.

00:33:53.000 Okay.

00:33:55.000 Last, last thing, then we'll do some questions.

00:33:58.000 No student should be forced to get a vaccine against their will.

00:34:01.000 Let me say that again.

00:34:02.000 No student should be forced to get a vaccine against their will.

00:34:09.000 You can have your own opinion on the vaccine.

00:34:11.000 We could talk about it.

00:34:11.000 That's fine.

00:34:12.000 I decided not to get the vaccine.

00:34:14.000 I have learned that some of our turning point USA students are in a lot of trouble, I'm told.

00:34:19.000 I don't want to get into specifics because at CU Boulder, they're forcing the vaccine.

00:34:23.000 This is wrong.

00:34:24.000 Those of you that have influence over this university financially that might sit on whatever board, you need to stand up for these students because what I'm understanding, like student portals being held hostage, I want to speak out of turn.

00:34:34.000 You guys could talk about it, but it's a very serious issue where we think to ourselves, wait a second, we're now forcing a 21-year-old who's paying us tuition to go get a medical vaccine where it does not prevent infection, okay?

00:34:46.000 How many times do you have to read this just like nausea-invoking, cringe-inducing tweet every week?

00:34:54.000 I have tested positive for COVID.

00:34:56.000 But thankfully, I got the vaccine and was triple boosted, and therefore I'm okay.

00:35:01.000 If I have to read that tweet one more time, I'm going to lose my mind.

00:35:04.000 Nancy, it's like copy-paste every single one of them.

00:35:08.000 So you might think it's good and it helps against severity of infection.

00:35:11.000 There's data on both sides of that.

00:35:12.000 I have my own personal opinions about it.

00:35:13.000 Whatever.

00:35:14.000 Make your own choices.

00:35:15.000 It's super creepy and weird that we're now telling people what to do with their deeply personal medical decisions, especially young people at this now two-year phase.

00:35:23.000 And so let me just say again, thank you, CU Boulder, for having me.

00:35:26.000 But CU Boulder, you should be ashamed of forcing kids to get the vaccine against their will.

00:35:30.000 It is categorically and morally wrong.

00:35:35.000 All right, so let's do some questions as we line up.

00:35:40.000 So, a couple ground rules for the questions.

00:35:42.000 We want to do questions, not statements.

00:35:44.000 We reserve the right to interrupt and pull the mic.

00:35:47.000 This is obviously a predominant center-right audience, right?

00:35:51.000 If someone who disagrees, and it's obvious they disagree, the questions will be over there.

00:35:55.000 Is that right?

00:35:56.000 Both sides.

00:35:57.000 So, both sides of the room, you guys can start lining up.

00:35:59.000 If someone has the courage that disagrees to ask a question, please do not interrupt them.

00:36:05.000 Please do not mock them.

00:36:07.000 Please do not make fun of them.

00:36:08.000 We are going to give them the respect they never give us.

00:36:11.000 Okay?

00:36:11.000 That's what we're going to do tonight.

00:36:12.000 All right?

00:36:13.000 Okay.

00:36:15.000 All right.

00:36:15.000 We'll go as long as we can.

00:36:17.000 Both sides of the room.

00:36:18.000 Can you raise your hand too?

00:36:19.000 Okay.

00:36:20.000 We'll start over there.

00:36:22.000 Hi.

00:36:22.000 So I started a turning point chapter recently at my high school, and I got a huge turnout, like 60 people stuffed in one room.

00:36:30.000 And so, and a lot of those people were there to protest, and they brought up all of these claims about like turning point you, Candace Owens, like whatever.

00:36:37.000 And I knew it was like, this is definitely false.

00:36:40.000 Yeah.

00:36:40.000 But I have no evidence against it.

00:36:42.000 How do I respond to ridiculous claims in which I can't like say, ha ha, not true? 0.71

00:36:47.000 Well, I mean, I suppose it's like Charlie's a bad person. 0.65

00:36:50.000 Like, okay, well, the burden of proof's on them.

00:36:53.000 So go ahead, prove it.

00:36:54.000 Like, I mean, that's what I would use.

00:36:55.000 I mean, so I would just say, okay, prove to me exactly what it is.

00:36:58.000 So, I mean, you go through the, like, oh, yeah, turning point USA is racist.

00:37:02.000 Okay, prove it.

00:37:03.000 We're the ones that are going around the country arguing against black-only dormitories. 0.84

00:37:08.000 We're the ones going around the country saying that racial segregation is wrong.

00:37:11.000 We're the ones going around the country saying that we shouldn't care about people's skin color.

00:37:15.000 And so the burden of proof is on them.

00:37:17.000 So first, I want to just applaud you for starting a Turning Point USA group.

00:37:20.000 It's awesome.

00:37:22.000 And I want to second one thing, which is: I'm not surprised the politics of smear and slander are favorites of the left.

00:37:32.000 Instead of actually debating issues, they'll go right into accusations.

00:37:35.000 I'm happy to spend the next however long we have telling you why every one of those lies is incorrect.

00:37:41.000 Happy to do that privately or whatever.

00:37:42.000 Here's the most important thing: like, it's not up to you to actually go into that.

00:37:45.000 You should say, look at them in the eye and say, answer me this question.

00:37:48.000 What is your evidence for this claim?

00:37:49.000 And by the way, if you're saying, oh, they're racist, like, okay, which one's the racist movement?

00:37:54.000 The people that want to divide people racially or the people that actually want racial integration?

00:37:58.000 Just let them answer the question.

00:37:59.000 And then finally, don't let it get you down.

00:38:01.000 What you're doing at a high school level, starting a Turning Point USA group, is making a phenomenal, long-lasting change in the trajectory of your generation.

00:38:09.000 And the fact is, it puts them immediately on defense.

00:38:12.000 Like, really, it's the best you can do is like read a bunch of New York Times snippets about Turning Point USA.

00:38:16.000 Like, here's the thing: Turning Point USA, we are a diverse organization.

00:38:19.000 We're an inclusive organization.

00:38:21.000 We're a positive organization.

00:38:22.000 Regardless of what all the smear and the slander the media tells you, you could see it for yourself.

00:38:26.000 You can come to our events.

00:38:27.000 You could see our students.

00:38:28.000 You can see how they view the country and how we view things.

00:38:30.000 And we don't let that kind of negativity wear us down.

00:38:33.000 And my encouragement for you is don't let that for you either.

00:38:35.000 So, God bless you.

00:38:36.000 Thank you.

00:38:38.000 I want to say: if you disagree, you guys can go to the front of the line if that pertains to you.

00:38:43.000 Okay.

00:38:43.000 Hi, Charlie.

00:38:44.000 Thank you for coming tonight.

00:38:46.000 My question is about the fact that the founding fathers never envisioned the size and power of the unelected bureaucracy in Washington, D.C.

00:38:56.000 These are the people that are there for decades.

00:38:57.000 We have no chance to vote them out.

00:39:00.000 There's corruption throughout the government.

00:39:02.000 What practical changes can we hope to make when we get the White House back to stop that corruption and the usurping of power from the legislature that these bureaucratic departments have taken?

00:39:16.000 It's a great question.

00:39:17.000 You're right.

00:39:18.000 So a big republic is hard to sustain.

00:39:21.000 So to have a republic with this many people, we're not a democracy.

00:39:25.000 We're a republic.

00:39:26.000 I don't know how many times I have to keep on repeating that.

00:39:28.000 We are not a democracy, but to have a republic over this landmass and this many different types of people is very, very difficult to sustain.

00:39:36.000 So what could be done?

00:39:37.000 Well, first, I'll talk less about the White House side of it, which I think whoever ends up being president after this, boy, is there a mandate to clean out the FBI and the CIA and the Department of Justice?

00:39:47.000 I mean, unlike anything I've ever seen.

00:39:49.000 Whether that will happen or not, I don't know, but there's a huge mandate for that.

00:39:54.000 is I'm a big believer in states' rights.

00:39:56.000 And you read the founding fathers.

00:39:57.000 They believed the smaller, the better for the more important decisions.

00:40:02.000 We've gotten away from that.

00:40:03.000 Now, in Colorado, I'll say this.

00:40:06.000 This is what's so, the left is so clever.

00:40:08.000 I have to give them credit.

00:40:09.000 They hate states' rights unless it benefits them.

00:40:12.000 So they hate states' rights unless it's marijuana.

00:40:14.000 They hate states' rights unless it's for bathroom stuff. 1.00

00:40:17.000 They hate states' rights unless it's for gay marriage, right? 1.00

00:40:19.000 They'll use states' rights for their agenda. 0.99

00:40:21.000 But then the minute you're like, oh, we want to try to pass constitutional carry, they're like, you can't do that, right?

00:40:27.000 And so I'm a big believer in states' rights.

00:40:30.000 I believe in laboratories of democracy, as Justice Louis Brandeis said in the 1920s.

00:40:34.000 So what can meaningfully be done?

00:40:36.000 My advice, for whatever it's worth, is stop focusing so much on DC and start focusing on your city council, on your local town, because right now we're seeing a trend for the smaller the government, the more popular for the people.

00:40:51.000 You're seeing it all across the world, okay?

00:40:52.000 Brexit was kind of a beginning step of this.

00:40:56.000 There are more countries in the U.S. country and the U.N. country registry than there were even 10 years ago.

00:41:02.000 People are now saying, I want to just govern myself.

00:41:04.000 I want to be North Macedonian instead of just Macedonia.

00:41:07.000 Now, I'm not saying that America is going to secede or be splintered up.

00:41:09.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:41:10.000 What I'm saying is we're already kind of living in different Americas.

00:41:13.000 And you're fooling yourself if that's not the case.

00:41:15.000 If you think that the average Oklahoman has something in common besides a unified currency with the average person in Berkeley, California, where I'm going tomorrow, you're fooling themselves.

00:41:25.000 I'll prove it to you, right?

00:41:26.000 So the average person from Tulsa, Oklahoma believes the Constitution's wonderful.

00:41:31.000 The average person from Berkeley, California thinks the Constitution's awful.

00:41:34.000 The average person from Oklahoma believes in differences between men and women.

00:41:38.000 The average person from Berkeley does not.

00:41:39.000 I could go on, right?

00:41:40.000 One of them believes Thomas Jefferson is worthy of study and appreciation.

00:41:43.000 The other one wants to take down even the mention of Thomas Jefferson to children.

00:41:47.000 That's not really sustainable.

00:41:49.000 I want it to be sustainable.

00:41:50.000 I think that there's a opening and I think the Lord will provide a master statesman for this moment.

00:41:57.000 The level of statesmanship that is required right now is like beyond Winston Churchill and beyond Lincoln to keep this republic together.

00:42:04.000 But look, we're on fragile footing.

00:42:05.000 I'm not telling you anything you guys don't know.

00:42:07.000 You think the same things, right?

00:42:08.000 Like, what do I actually have in common with these people?

00:42:10.000 And guess what?

00:42:11.000 They acknowledge they don't want to live with us a lot of the times.

00:42:13.000 I don't want that to happen.

00:42:14.000 I want to de-radicalize.

00:42:15.000 I want to try to bring the country back together.

00:42:17.000 I actually think we have more in common than what separates us.

00:42:20.000 The only meaningful long-term solution, though, is local involvement.

00:42:24.000 That's the only thing where you know you can get involved and you know you can make a change.

00:42:28.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:42:29.000 Appreciate it.

00:42:36.000 So I just kind of wanted to come here to gain some perspective, but I am a disagreeable.

00:42:41.000 So seeing that we talked about the housing market and we talked about, you know, the price of college, right, going skyrocket in America.

00:42:51.000 If we look to our European neighbors, we're seeing them do a lot better in this sector.

00:42:55.000 And that's because of centralized policies that America hasn't even started on yet.

00:43:01.000 And yet you want like a free market kind of like solution.

00:43:06.000 So how are we failing?

00:43:09.000 And how is Europe succeeding?

00:43:11.000 Well, yeah, I don't accept the premise, but I appreciate the question.

00:43:14.000 I don't think Europe's succeeding.

00:43:15.000 But let me ask you, I ask you a question.

00:43:16.000 Do you think that there's too many people going to college in America?

00:43:19.000 I do not.

00:43:20.000 Okay.

00:43:21.000 So what's the national college graduation rate?

00:43:23.000 Ballpark.

00:43:24.000 What do you think of this?

00:43:26.000 People going in to how many people graduate?

00:43:28.000 Get a diploma.

00:43:28.000 Again, I'm not too familiar with the amount of time.

00:43:30.000 That's okay.

00:43:31.000 It's fine.

00:43:31.000 59%.

00:43:32.000 So 41% of people that go to college don't graduate.

00:43:34.000 By a show of hands, how many know people that dropped out of college?

00:43:37.000 Raise your hand.

00:43:37.000 Every single hand goes up.

00:43:39.000 Right.

00:43:39.000 So we have way too many people going to college in America.

00:43:42.000 So my first thing, my first belief is that we have to decline college enrollment dramatically in this country.

00:43:48.000 I'd say, well, Charlie, what are you going to do?

00:43:50.000 Well, I will agree with you on one thing.

00:43:51.000 It's where the Germans get right. 1.00

00:43:53.000 It's that we need more welders and plumbers, electricians, police officers, entrepreneurs, and people that work with their hands.

00:44:01.000 And a lot less people that are kind of in the cloud studying postmodernism, right?

00:44:07.000 So I think college is a racket largely.

00:44:09.000 I think it's a scam.

00:44:11.000 I think that young people are told to take classes that have no relevancy to their own degree.

00:44:15.000 So let me ask you: have you taken classes that just you think are kind of a waste of time, or do you think it's all just been phenomenally meaningful?

00:44:21.000 I feel like it's a step in like the right career, right?

00:44:25.000 You get the right amount of like technical skills and also the right amount of soft skills necessary for the career that you're going into.

00:44:33.000 And I feel like saying that people shouldn't be enrolling in college is actively saying that some people just don't deserve to go to college.

00:44:40.000 And I don't feel like that's not saying that at all.

00:44:42.000 I mean, I think college makes you poorer, makes you less happy, and less likely to flourish.

00:44:47.000 Let me ask a question: show of hands in the room.

00:44:49.000 We'll use the democracy thing, right?

00:44:51.000 How many of you have felt that you took a class that was a total waste of time, waste of money, and all that?

00:44:55.000 Okay.

00:44:55.000 I mean, so this is a scam, man.

00:44:58.000 Like, if I was a, if I was a financial regulator, I would, this is like Bernie Madoff stuff, man.

00:45:05.000 It's like every question I ask, yep, I know people that dropped out.

00:45:07.000 Yep, I took classes that don't have any relevance to your degree.

00:45:10.000 And so the question is: what is the purpose of college, right?

00:45:13.000 So if every college like Hillsdale College, I'd probably agree with you.

00:45:16.000 If you guys are studying Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, getting deep into the classics, rejecting postmodernism, understanding the beauty of the American founding, then so be it.

00:45:25.000 But like, if we have to have these like extended discussions of like Jacques Derrida and Michelle Foucault and black-only dormitories and what is critical theory, you guys are getting ripped off.

00:45:35.000 And I believe firmly that, so what is the market response first and foremost?

00:45:40.000 Get a massive, and this might be wishful thinking, get a massive portion of the population not to go to college, go into technical schools, learn to work with their hands and value muscular labor again in our country, which muscular labor is insulted, talked down to, and I could prove it to you.

00:45:54.000 Go to a suburban family, anyone, maybe in Cherry Creek or in Centennial or whatever.

00:45:58.000 If you go to a regular suburban family, if you've got a mom in private, she'll say, I just don't want my kid to work construction.

00:46:04.000 Every suburban mom will say that. 1.00

00:46:06.000 No matter what, I don't want my kid to sweat for a living.

00:46:08.000 And okay, that has created a hyper-educated, very unwise generation that's super in debt and has pieces of paper and they mean absolutely nothing, right?

00:46:17.000 So it's a generation that has borrowed money they don't have to study things that don't matter, to find jobs that don't exist.

00:46:23.000 So to answer your question, the whole thing's a racket from how we get young people from high school to try to go to college and all this.

00:46:29.000 We need to disrupt it completely, end federal subsidies, end state subsidies, make college support themselves on the own on their own.

00:46:36.000 Make colleges.

00:46:37.000 So make colleges go raise their own donor money for the, like, for example, if like feminist queer theory is super important to you, fine, go raise the money and support it on your own, right? 0.94

00:46:46.000 Don't ask the taxpayer to underwrite that.

00:46:47.000 And by the way, you look at Europe, just to finish the point, they're getting away from woke universities. 0.62

00:46:53.000 France has actually decreed, Emmanuel Macron ran on this.

00:46:56.000 He said that we need to try to reject American woke ideology that is seeping into French institutions.

00:47:02.000 So to kind of use your own example, Europe's rejecting the very same thing that I believe has infected American higher education.

00:47:07.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:47:08.000 I appreciate it.

00:47:09.000 Thoughtful question.

00:47:09.000 Thank you.

00:47:14.000 In America, the people are sovereign.

00:47:16.000 You know that when you study the Constitution, you don't have to study it.

00:47:19.000 You just look at it.

00:47:21.000 My go-to place for the news, my go-to place for what's happening at a deeper level is Hillsdale College.

00:47:27.000 Look, it's no secret that Americans are more divided than ever.

00:47:30.000 It's not just over policies, but what will improve our beautiful country?

00:47:34.000 Now, people are debating whether America is great at all.

00:47:36.000 And look, I got to say, Hillsdale, they go right into it.

00:47:40.000 They have Imprimus, and they send it to you, and it's unbelievable.

00:47:45.000 We get it sent here to our office.

00:47:46.000 I read every single word.

00:47:48.000 Hillsdale College, run by the great Dr. Larry Arn, and they have Imprimus, which is a digest of liberty, and it's so important.

00:47:55.000 Imprimus looks at the issues of the day from a constitutional perspective, reminding citizens always of our great heritage of liberty.

00:48:03.000 For 50 years, Imprimus has featured speeches given at Hillsdale events by the smartest conservative thinkers and writers.

00:48:10.000 These days, Hillsdale publishes people like Victor Davis Hansen, Molly Hemingway, Mark Stein, and Christopher Ruffo.

00:48:16.000 Over 6.2 million American households and businesses receive Imprimus absolutely for free.

00:48:22.000 And I know a lot of you are saying, how do I make sense of all the news?

00:48:24.000 How do I make sense of all this nonsense?

00:48:27.000 Well, Imprimus is the way to do that.

00:48:29.000 And I always look forward to receiving Emprimus, my friends at Hillsdale College, and I want you to get a free subscription.

00:48:34.000 It is free.

00:48:35.000 They send it to your house.

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00:48:42.000 What looks different right now is just a sign up for Imprimus landing page.

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00:49:00.000 Portions of this program, The Charlie Kirk Show.

00:49:05.000 First of all, I'd like to preface my question with two things.

00:49:09.000 Firstly, huge fan.

00:49:10.000 Secondly, I am a biologist in case anyone would like to refute me after that.

00:49:14.000 What is a woman? 1.00

00:49:16.000 That's what I'm graduating in this spring.

00:49:19.000 But so I would like to ask you regarding a logical fallacy that I've, sorry.

00:49:29.000 The idea of the slippery slope has largely been invalidated in conversations, especially today.

00:49:38.000 But I think one axiom that I've seen propagated throughout multiple mediums is that of went from let us get married to now we want to teach sexuality to your elementary schoolers.

00:49:57.000 And don't get me wrong, I don't care what you do with your life as long as it doesn't impact my life and those around me.

00:50:04.000 I like to consider myself an open-minded individual, but once you impede on my stuff, that's when I start to get a little, don't tread on me.

00:50:12.000 So I'm very curious as to your perception with regards to the idea of the fallacy.

00:50:24.000 And if someone were to use that is a logical fallacy against you, how would you refute that?

00:50:29.000 Yeah, I get that all the time.

00:50:30.000 So people will say that, look, it's not a logical fallacy that things go on a slippery, it is a logical fallacy slope.

00:50:36.000 I reject the premise.

00:50:37.000 I think slippery slopes are true.

00:50:39.000 You look at any sort of course of history, you do see incremental erosion of freedoms and liberties.

00:50:44.000 You do see small things become big things.

00:50:47.000 I'm not to say, now, the reason it's a logical fallacy, just so you understand, is it's not applicable to all things.

00:50:52.000 That's not to say, though, that slippery slopes don't happen.

00:50:55.000 Those are two different things, right?

00:50:56.000 So if you want to just like take a logic class 101, go through Aristotelian logic, you're right.

00:51:01.000 It cannot be applied to an argument every time because it's not scientific, right?

00:51:06.000 There are examples.

00:51:07.000 I could give you one, like seatbelt laws.

00:51:09.000 It stopped and it got kind of annoying, but it was kind of, it just kind of slowed down, right?

00:51:13.000 That doesn't, that's not the same thing as saying, though, that slippery slopes have not happened and they will continue to happen, right?

00:51:19.000 For example, in New York, they started with like, oh, we want abortions to be safe, legal, and rare.

00:51:24.000 And then it's like, oh, we want late-term abortions. 1.00

00:51:26.000 And now it's like we're entertaining post-birth abortions, which is what they're entertaining in California, where you can have abortion up to post-birth in Colorado?

00:51:37.000 Okay.

00:51:40.000 So that's a slippery slope, isn't it?

00:51:42.000 So I hope that helps a little bit, where technically it is a logical fallacy because it's not applicable to every issue.

00:51:48.000 However, you should isolate and say, how many slippery slopes have we lived through?

00:51:52.000 Because it's still a real thing, right?

00:51:54.000 Where the erosion of liberty can start at one thing or the erosion of decency or virtue or goodness, right?

00:51:59.000 So a great example is, okay, we start with, you know, same-sex marriage.

00:52:03.000 Okay, that was lost.

00:52:04.000 And then we went to, you're going to force a baker to make a cake. 1.00

00:52:07.000 Okay, that was lost.

00:52:09.000 And now it goes to we want to teach five-year-olds about very graphic sex education.

00:52:13.000 It's like, wow, we went a long way from just wanting people to have equal rights with marriage to now going to five-year-olds.

00:52:19.000 Now, the reason why they'll call it a logical fallacy is because you could not scientifically apply it that way or mathematically, because it wasn't assuredly going to be a sipperly slope, but there still exists.

00:52:30.000 So I would encourage you to kind of push back on and add some nuance to that, right?

00:52:35.000 And it's one of the most insane things.

00:52:37.000 Like study the history of the Soviet Union and tell me slippery slopes don't exist, right? 1.00

00:52:41.000 Study Cambodia.

00:52:42.000 Study Maoist China, right?

00:52:44.000 Look what's happening, you know, in Colorado with what you just said, the pro-life bill and some of these other things.

00:52:48.000 So I hope that's somewhat helpful to push back on that a little bit.

00:52:52.000 And it's a very thoughtful question.

00:52:53.000 So thank you.

00:52:54.000 Appreciate it.

00:52:59.000 Hey, Charlie.

00:53:00.000 I was told to keep it short, so I will.

00:53:03.000 So you've touched on LGBTQ rights a lot.

00:53:05.000 You've talked about, you know, trans bathrooms, you getting banned from Twitter.

00:53:09.000 Very, you know, awful.

00:53:11.000 But I'm wondering if I can get a straight answer, yes or no.

00:53:13.000 Do you think the acceptance of queer people in society is a good thing? 1.00

00:53:17.000 Well, define acceptance and define queer, because when I grew up, that was like a slander.

00:53:21.000 So I don't know, that's like a thing now.

00:53:24.000 Queer being lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender.

00:53:28.000 And acceptance?

00:53:30.000 What do you mean?

00:53:31.000 Acceptance being that, you know, society, you know, you know, accepts that, doesn't try to change that, doesn't try to say that it's not a social, like it's not a good thing for you to be gay.

00:53:41.000 It's not a good thing for you to be trans. 1.00

00:53:42.000 And, you know, in our institutions also just offering them resources to, you know, just come to terms with their sexuality, not feel bad about it.

00:53:52.000 Basically, by acceptance, I generally mean society shouldn't make people feel bad about who they are.

00:53:56.000 So do you agree with that?

00:53:58.000 No.

00:53:59.000 I mean, we should feel bad about all sorts of things.

00:54:01.000 So, I mean, yeah, happy to get the mic back up.

00:54:03.000 But I mean, I'll just ask you a very simple question, and this will tell, what is a woman? 0.91

00:54:07.000 A woman is someone who identifies as a woman. 0.99

00:54:09.000 Got it.

00:54:10.000 So can, so do you think a definition of someone able to become pregnant would be a woman?

00:54:18.000 I'm sorry, can you repeat the question?

00:54:19.000 So if someone can become pregnant, would that person be defined as a woman?

00:54:23.000 Depends on if they identify as a woman. 0.86

00:54:24.000 So, okay, we're now getting to the root of the issue.

00:54:24.000 Right.

00:54:27.000 So do you believe that truth is objective or subjective?

00:54:30.000 Do you believe in absolute truth?

00:54:32.000 Okay.

00:54:32.000 Sure.

00:54:33.000 So if you believe in absolute truth, shouldn't we have absolute terms of what a infant-bearing or infant-birthing person is, otherwise known as a woman?

00:54:42.000 No.

00:54:43.000 So let me ask you, let me ask you this a different way, I suppose.

00:54:43.000 Okay.

00:54:46.000 So if anyone can identify at anything at any time, correct?

00:54:50.000 Anyone can identify it as a woman or a man, you can just choose it anytime, right? 0.58

00:54:54.000 Gender?

00:54:55.000 Well, gender identity isn't switching genders all the time. 1.00

00:54:58.000 It just depends.

00:54:59.000 But that's your position, right?

00:55:00.000 That's sort of say that you could change your gender?

00:55:02.000 My position is that you should accept people's gender identity and you shouldn't machine them out.

00:55:07.000 So let me ask you, should we accept people that think they're younger than they actually are?

00:55:14.000 Because that is, that's a mental condition where people say, I identify as an eight-year-old, but they're really 50.

00:55:21.000 Should we accept someone be able to say they're younger?

00:55:25.000 No, but I think that's a very false equivalence.

00:55:27.000 Why is it a false equivalence?

00:55:28.000 Because there's scientific research supporting that gender identity is something that is, you know, like, there's scientific research that supports people and says that if you identify as a certain gender, then that is like your gender.

00:55:43.000 There's this paper on Scientific American that I found very interesting that said, like, you know, it has to do with like your brain formation in the womb where gender identity forms, but it's different from sex.

00:55:52.000 That's very different from a disorder where you say, I'm not actually my age.

00:55:58.000 Well, hold on.

00:55:59.000 You just, you disagreed with me.

00:56:00.000 You said it's a brain formation issue.

00:56:02.000 It's a brain formation.

00:56:03.000 I didn't say it was a disorder.

00:56:04.000 Well, so you don't think transgenderism is a disorder? 0.99

00:56:07.000 No.

00:56:07.000 What is gender dysphoria?

00:56:09.000 Gender dysphoria is when you're very uncomfortable with your own body, and that usually relates to gender, and that can usually be treated if you choose a transition to...

00:56:20.000 So it's a mental condition, right?

00:56:20.000 Right.

00:56:22.000 That's...

00:56:22.000 Well, gender dysphoria is, but transgenderism is not.

00:56:26.000 What's the difference?

00:56:27.000 The difference between gender dysphoria and transgenderism.

00:56:31.000 Being transgender means that you don't identify with the gender you're born with. 0.97

00:56:34.000 Gender dysphoria means you're uncomfortable with your body.

00:56:37.000 So they're two different things.

00:56:39.000 So you cannot be quote-unquote transgender without suffering from gender dysphoria.

00:56:44.000 So let me ask you one more question.

00:56:45.000 So you believe that we can dictate pronouns.

00:56:48.000 Can I choose my adjectives?

00:56:49.000 Can I decide to be like super rich?

00:56:51.000 Or like, can someone like, can I decide to be small?

00:56:54.000 Like, is there anything objective that we have to actually admit?

00:56:57.000 Or can you just change anything at any time?

00:56:59.000 I think people should have the right to determine their pronouns.

00:57:02.000 How about adjectives?

00:57:02.000 And I don't think...

00:57:04.000 I don't think people actually do that, so I don't know why that's something you're.

00:57:07.000 Well, of course, like if someone says, I declare I'm rich, it's no longer than saying, I'm declare I'm a man.

00:57:11.000 Your chromosomes aren't that way.

00:57:13.000 You don't get to choose what your reality is, do you?

00:57:17.000 Gender identity is reality.

00:57:20.000 Okay, so anyone could be anything.

00:57:21.000 Let me ask, how about species reality?

00:57:23.000 Can I change my species?

00:57:25.000 No.

00:57:26.000 Why?

00:57:26.000 There's people that identify as cats and dogs.

00:57:28.000 All time has a serious mental condition. 0.93

00:57:30.000 It is.

00:57:31.000 It's treated all the time.

00:57:32.000 Tens of thousands of cases every single year.

00:57:37.000 So basically, if you believe in absolute truth, which you say you do, why wouldn't you believe in absolute truth when it comes to chromosomal structure?

00:57:46.000 Because gender and chromosomal sex are two different things.

00:57:50.000 Right, according to your opinion.

00:57:51.000 Got it.

00:57:52.000 So now you want to impose that opinion on the rest of society, right?

00:57:56.000 You can have whatever opinion you want.

00:57:57.000 Here's our position.

00:57:58.000 That opinion should now not apply to all of a sudden saying that men and women's sports should be conflated.

00:58:04.000 Final question.

00:58:04.000 Did you find a moral problem with the University of Pennsylvania swimmer changing from a man to a woman and winning the NCAA championship, defeating other women?

00:58:13.000 Well, I'm not familiar, but I'm pretty sure that the NCAA has some rules that makes it so people who transition have like, you know, kind of a competitive fair thing.

00:58:21.000 So I haven't done much research into those rules, but let me set you up to speed.

00:58:26.000 460 second best male swimmer, best female swimmer, NCAA champion.

00:58:31.000 Do you see a problem with that?

00:58:34.000 Are you suggesting that she transitioned to a woman to get better at swimming?

00:58:39.000 Of course.

00:58:40.000 And we shouldn't allow that to happen.

00:58:42.000 Why would you transition yourself just to become better at a sport? 0.93

00:58:45.000 Because you're a narcissist. 0.97

00:58:46.000 That's why. 0.67

00:58:49.000 Because it's like saying, why would anyone steal anything?

00:58:55.000 Why would anyone cut in line?

00:58:57.000 People do bad things.

00:58:58.000 It's not up to us as society to accommodate the rules for your impulses to go do bad things.

00:59:04.000 Last question.

00:59:05.000 Do you think there's differences between men and women?

00:59:10.000 Was this the actual last question?

00:59:11.000 Yeah, last last question.

00:59:12.000 I'm curious.

00:59:13.000 No, I'm curious because I can't believe you're paying for this.

00:59:17.000 It's like so interesting.

00:59:20.000 Well, there are actual differences between men and women, yes, in terms of chromosomes, as you mentioned.

00:59:26.000 So, yeah, sure.

00:59:27.000 Okay, so therefore, we agree that men and women have differences.

00:59:30.000 We should define society around those differences.

00:59:33.000 And one of those differences is that women are, they have lower testosterone levels, and they could be easily exploited by men. 0.98

00:59:40.000 which is what happens far too often.

00:59:42.000 And it's incumbent on men who have higher testosterone levels, who are physically stronger, to protect women against the exploitation of men who think they are women.

00:59:51.000 That's a moral question and a moral claim.

00:59:54.000 Thank you for being here tonight.

00:59:55.000 I appreciate it.

01:00:05.000 Hello, Charlie.

01:00:06.000 Thank you for coming out tonight.

01:00:08.000 So I definitely wouldn't say I agree with you on a lot of things, but I guess just to kind of make it fun.

01:00:14.000 Something, well, not necessarily.

01:00:16.000 So, you know, I'm a guy.

01:00:19.000 I'm a plumber.

01:00:20.000 I work the trade.

01:00:21.000 I'm an anarchist.

01:00:22.000 We definitely agree.

01:00:24.000 We agree on a lot of stuff, but there's a couple of things we might disagree on, like secession and various things like that.

01:00:31.000 But really coming here, I wanted to, I guess, ask you, a guy like me, young guy, what, and I think there's a lot of people in the room that probably asked this exact same question who are more leaning on the right.

01:00:47.000 What can we do to help push the country in the direction that we want to see it?

01:00:55.000 Because I don't feel like voting is doing it for us.

01:00:59.000 That's what led me to women. 1.00

01:01:01.000 Voting's important, but what can you do?

01:01:03.000 We've got to have bigger families. 0.69

01:01:04.000 We've got to support our churches and support our pastors that are proclaiming truth.

01:01:08.000 See one in the back, fervent church.

01:01:09.000 Is that right?

01:01:10.000 Do I see?

01:01:10.000 That's amazing.

01:01:11.000 Great church in Colorado Springs.

01:01:12.000 They do such a great job.

01:01:16.000 Then we got to get to work.

01:01:18.000 We got to build things that last and matter.

01:01:20.000 So one of the things is we got to have more conservative businesses that are owned by us that share our values so that we're cancel-proof.

01:01:27.000 That's a real thing, regardless of what you think the future of the country looks like.

01:01:31.000 We got to start our own businesses.

01:01:32.000 Now, that doesn't excuse us from what I believe holding these current businesses accountable, like Disney, which has become a child predator operation, right?

01:01:40.000 And so it's inexcusable what Disney has.

01:01:43.000 It's unbelievable.

01:01:44.000 And what really frustrates me about Disney, just as a side small detour, is that they made billions being the safe haven for families for years.

01:01:52.000 And then they turn around and they use that against.

01:01:55.000 It's just so sick and so wrong.

01:01:56.000 But we got to build stuff.

01:01:57.000 We have to be positive and forward thinking.

01:01:59.000 And I have to say, in my kind of mixed bag of analysis, this is one thing I really appreciate about Elon Musk is he's a builder.

01:02:06.000 And I love builders.

01:02:08.000 There's complainers and there's doers.

01:02:10.000 And I got to say, I just stand in awe.

01:02:11.000 I'm like, this guy has how many companies?

01:02:13.000 He's trying to go to what planet?

01:02:15.000 It's remarkable.

01:02:17.000 And again, I'm against some of the moral and philosophical claims of what he does.

01:02:20.000 He does way too much business with China, all that stuff.

01:02:22.000 But I think that we as a movement would be better suited.

01:02:25.000 Like, what are we going to build that's ambitious and beautiful?

01:02:27.000 Are we going to build the next Disney?

01:02:28.000 I guarantee you someone in this room right now has the potential to build a multi-billion dollar company.

01:02:32.000 That's a real thing, right?

01:02:33.000 Like regardless, you might, you believe in no government, all that stuff, whatever, fine.

01:02:36.000 We could go over that.

01:02:37.000 Probably never.

01:02:38.000 But the point is that's a real thing.

01:02:41.000 So build things that last.

01:02:43.000 Build things that are beautiful.

01:02:44.000 Beautiful families, beautiful communities, beautiful churches.

01:02:46.000 Support good businesses.

01:02:47.000 Take risks.

01:02:48.000 Be an entrepreneur.

01:02:50.000 That's more important than voting.

01:02:52.000 So I want you to imagine if someone hears what I just said, they're like, I'm going to start the next Disney.

01:02:55.000 And they do it.

01:02:56.000 Imagine the cultural impact of that, right?

01:02:59.000 And you might say, oh, Charlie, that will never happen.

01:03:00.000 I disagree.

01:03:01.000 I think the spirit of American entrepreneur hasn't even started taking risks, especially on the center right.

01:03:06.000 It's like, no, I'm going to go start something big, bold, ambitious, and beautiful.

01:03:10.000 And we're starting to see more and more people start to do that.

01:03:12.000 Like, we're gonna start our own Starbucks.

01:03:13.000 I see some people pointing to themselves: good, I believe in you.

01:03:15.000 You can do it totally.

01:03:16.000 Like, only in America can you do really gritty, awesome things.

01:03:20.000 Like, and I'm living proof of this, right?

01:03:21.000 I started Turning Point USA 10 years ago when I was 18 years old in the suburbs of Chicago, no money, no connections, no idea what I was doing.

01:03:28.000 We're now on thousands of high school and college campuses across the country, over 250 people on staff.

01:03:33.000 I now have a podcast, a radio show, all this.

01:03:35.000 I look around, I'm like, only in America could a kid who didn't go to college, who no one believed in, and then people started to, and amazing generosity followed.

01:03:42.000 Is that possible, right?

01:03:44.000 And so, so for you, it's like you're a plumber, right?

01:03:49.000 Then go start an incredible, like, go start the next Task Rabbit.

01:03:54.000 I'm not kidding.

01:03:54.000 Like, go start a conservative tax rabbit.

01:03:56.000 Great, amazing idea for a company, by the way.

01:03:58.000 Whoever came up with TaskRabbit, I want to meet them.

01:04:00.000 It's a phenomenal.

01:04:00.000 I don't even know what that is.

01:04:01.000 It's, it's, you could hire somebody for a couple hours to go do like putting together a bed frame or like fixing a dishwasher.

01:04:07.000 It's a phenomenal idea.

01:04:09.000 Like, you could do that.

01:04:10.000 And that's what we need to start thinking of, right?

01:04:12.000 The positive, forward-thinking.

01:04:14.000 Because here's the thing: we're dealing with an incredibly suppressive and negative force over our country right now, right?

01:04:20.000 They want you to think that our country is going to fall apart.

01:04:22.000 And like, I just went through all the things wrong, okay?

01:04:24.000 But what are the risks we're going to take to make the country better?

01:04:27.000 And one of those are building better families, building bigger businesses, you know, better businesses, leaning into our local community, helping our local church.

01:04:34.000 Those are things that last regardless of the criminality of our political class, which I think you and I could have a lot of fun talking about.

01:04:41.000 So thanks for being here tonight.

01:04:42.000 Appreciate it.

01:04:49.000 First off, Charlie, thank you for coming out tonight.

01:04:52.000 I watch your videos all the time.

01:04:54.000 I got two quick questions.

01:04:56.000 I'm going to try and keep it as brief as I can.

01:04:58.000 Yeah.

01:04:59.000 So I live in Washington state.

01:05:01.000 So absolute chaos and all that kind of stuff with George Floyd. 0.94

01:05:05.000 When we announced lockdowns, one of my friends got raped right before it.

01:05:08.000 What do you think that did to her mental health? 0.64

01:05:11.000 Then a bunch of my friends, I had three commit suicide over quarantine. 0.91

01:05:15.000 I had multiple others get raped over quarantine.

01:05:19.000 And all of this is because Tacoma, Seattle, Olympia, they all take over the entire state.

01:05:24.000 What do you think of a proposed system where if only 41% of the state votes Democrat and 59 votes Republican, that that state puts 59% of the electoral votes into the electoral college and 41% of the electoral codes?

01:05:41.000 It's never going to happen.

01:05:41.000 It's too complicated.

01:05:42.000 However, I like your spirit.

01:05:43.000 Here's what I do support, and I think this is going to start happening.

01:05:45.000 I support Eastern Washington getting part of Idaho.

01:05:48.000 I support these kind of splinter movements, and you should too.

01:05:51.000 I supported breaking up California into five parts, even though it was totally unrealistic.

01:05:55.000 It got broken up in the courts.

01:05:56.000 Some of these states are too big.

01:05:58.000 They're just too big and they're not representing their voters.

01:06:00.000 You drive out of Seattle, Tacoma, and you go into the Heartland area with some of the most amazing people on the planet in Washington.

01:06:07.000 Now, some people say that's secession.

01:06:08.000 No, it's not.

01:06:10.000 It's actually not secession.

01:06:11.000 It's the opposite.

01:06:12.000 West Virginia was formed as a compact in like 1872, requires an act from Congress.

01:06:19.000 And here's a way to force the hand of this.

01:06:20.000 You might say, Charlie, would never happen.

01:06:21.000 Hold on.

01:06:22.000 So they want to add Puerto Rico and DC as a state.

01:06:24.000 Okay.

01:06:25.000 Give us Eastern Washington as a state and give us Southern Colorado as a state, right?

01:06:31.000 Like, why not?

01:06:32.000 Like, you guys want to add all these new states, then all these other pockets of America are going to start to get senators.

01:06:36.000 And they don't want that, right?

01:06:38.000 But so there is this tension of the rurals versus the urban.

01:06:41.000 The electoral college thing is way too complicated.

01:06:43.000 It's never going to happen.

01:06:43.000 What can happen?

01:06:44.000 It's already happening.

01:06:45.000 I think it's Western Idaho.

01:06:46.000 I can't remember.

01:06:46.000 It's Oregon.

01:06:47.000 It's Eastern Oregon that's done this.

01:06:47.000 It's Oregon.

01:06:49.000 And Jefferson, Southern Oregon, Northern California.

01:06:51.000 It's like, I support the principle of self-government.

01:06:56.000 I think that's a moral good and a necessity.

01:06:58.000 When self-government starts to become unrealistic, for example, Seattle just terrorizes the rest of the state, then you got to start entertaining other creative, peaceful options, which is, look, we've had states break.

01:07:10.000 You ever see how weird some of these states are?

01:07:11.000 Happen all across our, we don't cover that a lot, right?

01:07:14.000 Like, how are these states actually formed?

01:07:16.000 Like, very few states are like Wyoming, which is like a perfect square, right?

01:07:20.000 Like, a lot of these states are like a total mess, and it's either on a river or it's just kind of like, well, we used to, for example, a great, you should go look up the Northwest Territory used to be Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Wisconsin, and it was just basically they formed it on the rivers and they fought over it and they gave Ohio more.

01:07:36.000 And it was this idea that you have to always live in the same state you do, it's somewhat of a modern idea that I think we should challenge.

01:07:43.000 And I think it would be a very good thing and healthy thing.

01:07:45.000 And I think it would also push back against some of the tyranny and give people kind of an escape hatch.

01:07:49.000 Like, wait, I could still live in, you know, Pullman. 0.95

01:07:51.000 Well, Pullman, Washington's a bunch of crazy people.

01:07:53.000 But like, I could live outside of Pullman, Washington, right, and not have to leave.

01:07:57.000 So I'm a big believer in self-government.

01:07:59.000 I really am.

01:08:00.000 We got to get to the next question.

01:08:00.000 Thank you.

01:08:01.000 Thank you.

01:08:01.000 Appreciate it.

01:08:06.000 Hey, I have this one written down.

01:08:08.000 So you've been, I think there was a previous question.

01:08:10.000 We kind of talked about like bureaucracy and how that's a huge issue in America.

01:08:16.000 So let me just make sure I don't get my words twisted.

01:08:19.000 So the lobbyists, in my opinion, it's probably the most detrimental force in U.S. politics.

01:08:24.000 So given that Turning Point USA is also funded in large part by these groups, and you say that you support the American people.

01:08:32.000 What groups are you talking about?

01:08:33.000 Off the top of my head, I think the Independent Petroleum Association.

01:08:37.000 No, but we are supported by Wildcatters and beautiful people that work in the oil fields.

01:08:41.000 Well, yeah, that still goes with my point.

01:08:44.000 You are supported by big industry.

01:08:46.000 So with that said, do you support overturning Citizens United?

01:08:49.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that's, yeah, I do, but not for that reason.

01:08:49.000 Yes or no?

01:08:52.000 I mean, first of all, yeah, we get support from lots of people, a lot of entrepreneurs.

01:08:57.000 But yeah, I think Citizens United is generally unhealthy.

01:09:01.000 I do.

01:09:02.000 And I think that what's hilarious, though, I don't know your political persuasion, but I will say that the left has used Citizen United way more than the political right has.

01:09:11.000 When Mark Zuckerberg can put $400 million into an election to change the way we count votes, like that's a problem.

01:09:18.000 And so I used to be a purist on Citizens United.

01:09:20.000 Now, there's one carve-out that I will pause in Citizens United, which is I think we can all agree that there would be an over criminalization or over-regulation of political speech.

01:09:30.000 For example, so just you know, Citizens United, if you guys don't know, was a law issue came out like 2012, 13, 14, which was, should there be limits on political contributions?

01:09:39.000 Okay.

01:09:40.000 And so what won Clarence Thomas and Scalia, I think, was alive at the time, over was that the people that were trying to say no, they answered this question pretty scary.

01:09:50.000 And I got to be honest, this is what makes me pause.

01:09:52.000 They said, if a book was written negatively about Hillary Clinton, would that be considered political speech?

01:09:57.000 And they said yes.

01:09:58.000 And that's a problem for me.

01:10:00.000 Okay.

01:10:01.000 So if we're talking about overturning Citizens United to now restrict people like me from talking on radio and podcasting, no way.

01:10:07.000 But if you're talking, which I think is the spirit of your question, should there be a restriction on oligarchs running our elections?

01:10:13.000 Of course.

01:10:14.000 I think absolutely.

01:10:15.000 I think when Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg or Bill Gates can parachute in with $250 million and change the direction of election, I don't think that's healthy for the country.

01:10:23.000 I don't.

01:10:24.000 And the labor unions to the other side, I mean, you look at the Google people and Zuckerberg, I think that's wrong.

01:10:29.000 The way you regulate it is trickier, though, right?

01:10:32.000 So I just made a moral claim, but the actual regulation of this is a lot more complicated because then all of a sudden we'll go to, okay, if you, like, for example, Dinesh D'Souza comes out with a movie against Joe Biden, is that a political commercial?

01:10:45.000 Right?

01:10:46.000 Well, it's a movie.

01:10:47.000 So where does it cross the line?

01:10:49.000 And that was the question that the court ended up deciding on.

01:10:52.000 And so I would be probably in the camp of keeping it as it is if it were mean that people like me and like even Rachel Maddow would have to all of a sudden have her, you know, news brought news broadcast, you know, censored.

01:11:04.000 So that's the way I'd answer that question.

01:11:06.000 But to answer the final, this idea that oligarchs can control the future of our elections, I think is completely wrong, and I would stand against it.

01:11:13.000 Thank you for your question.

01:11:14.000 I appreciate it.

01:11:18.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:11:19.000 It's so cool to see you.

01:11:20.000 I remember watching you like 2016 on Lake Dave Rubin.

01:11:23.000 It's pretty dope. 0.99

01:11:24.000 You're a killer. 1.00

01:11:25.000 Thank you. 0.99

01:11:26.000 So in the beginning of your speech, you spoke on the conservatizing moments that happened to a person.

01:11:31.000 It's amazing.

01:11:31.000 I love that.

01:11:32.000 Marriage, kids, owning property.

01:11:34.000 The problem I see is the left has the progressivizing narratives of culture.

01:11:39.000 They have the climate change catastrophe.

01:11:42.000 They have the party switch, where supposedly the Republicans are the ones responsible for slavery.

01:11:46.000 And we go on and on.

01:11:47.000 I'm sure you more than I do.

01:11:49.000 How do conservative commentators and the conservative movement fight this mythological warfare they wage when us, as conservatives, can't even agree on whether we believe in anthropogenic or nuclear is the answer?

01:12:05.000 Or carbon capture?

01:12:06.000 Or maybe we were the racist, but now we're not.

01:12:08.000 But so how do we do?

01:12:09.000 Because we we are uh, conservatives are much more atomized.

01:12:12.000 So how does so?

01:12:13.000 My question is, is that, how does conservative media uh, create a like a media bastion to actually fight this?

01:12:18.000 That's a really good question.

01:12:19.000 So you're asking, how do we win?

01:12:20.000 That's basically the essence of your question right like, how do we create counter narratives that we all agree on?

01:12:25.000 We don't have a party line, so yeah, so the first thing is, is that the easiest way to create a counter narrative is thankfully, the insanity of the other side?

01:12:32.000 So they're doing a lot of it for us and i'll explain what I mean.

01:12:34.000 But the second part is, I completely agree and i'll kind of elaborate on the struggle. 0.99

01:12:38.000 The first thing is, I believe this woke stuff is so unbelievably stupid. 0.99

01:12:41.000 It's unpopular, doesn't work. 1.00

01:12:42.000 It just like doesn't make sense to normal people that they're going to be in for such a reckoning.

01:12:47.000 They're not even going to know what hit them.

01:12:48.000 I believe it will be an extinction event politically for anyone that associates with woke policies.

01:12:53.000 Defund the police, get rid of the prisons.

01:12:55.000 We just went into the whole thing.

01:12:55.000 You know this.

01:12:56.000 Can men become pregnant? 0.99

01:12:57.000 All this garbage, right, like that's the stuff where normal everyday people especially Hispanic voters, by the way um, which you're seeing the biggest shift in they're like. 1.00

01:13:05.000 This doesn't make any sense. 0.96

01:13:07.000 I want out of it totally.

01:13:08.000 So that's actually been keeping some of the conservative messaging unified, which is anti.

01:13:12.000 Now there's a lesson in this.

01:13:14.000 In the 1980s, conservatives were unified in messaging because we all hated the Soviet Union.

01:13:19.000 That's all we talked about right.

01:13:20.000 Hate communism, hate the Soviet Union.

01:13:22.000 Libertarians got along with conservatives, anarchists got along with whatever.

01:13:25.000 Everyone got along because we hate the Soviet Union.

01:13:27.000 You're starting to see a little bit that spirit renewed right now.

01:13:29.000 If you kind of see like we like even the people that are like Charlie might disagree with you on, like i'm a libertarian, but I hate the woke left, let's fight them.

01:13:36.000 That's good.

01:13:36.000 The second part is like we have to do some soul searching of what does it mean to actually be a conservative?

01:13:42.000 And that's the second part, right.

01:13:43.000 It's like what happens when you win, what happens when you govern.

01:13:46.000 So here's my, here's my standard opinion, without getting abstract in the theory, I have a test case now, a three and a half year test case, of what I believe a conservative looks like, Ron De Santis.

01:13:57.000 Ron De Santis is what a conservative looks like, and so we don't have to overthink it. 0.67

01:14:04.000 I think that's a unifying thing right, so we can go through it like, why, banning critical race theory, not allowing kids to be taught this garbage in schools? 0.54

01:14:11.000 Right, not allowing, you know?

01:14:12.000 No, no bail funding the police, funding fatherhood initiatives?

01:14:16.000 Anti-lockdowns, no vaccine mandates?

01:14:16.000 Right.

01:14:19.000 Right, pushing back against these ridiculous congressional maps like whoa, like that's. 0.68

01:14:23.000 So the question is, how do we do it? 0.55

01:14:23.000 That's a way forward. 0.55

01:14:25.000 I think we have to elevate and reward the people that do it in tough places and do it with articulation and charisma, and I would argue Ron De Santis has been probably America's greatest governor in the last 30 years, and I I I, I can't even think of a governor even close to it.

01:14:40.000 Truly, so we got to get to some other questions.

01:14:43.000 So thank you.

01:14:47.000 I just have one question.

01:14:49.000 So given the recent targeting of right-wing activists by the FBI, such as the mistreatment of the January 6th prisoners and the failed attempt at entrapping militia members into a plot to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, would you support defunding the FBI or even having it dissolved due to its politically motivated attacks on right-wingers?

01:15:13.000 I mean, like, that's an obvious.

01:15:15.000 So in theory, I think there's a role for an FBI idea, but in its current form, absolutely.

01:15:20.000 Yes, 100%.

01:15:22.000 But I do think that there is a need for a federal police force to be able to police interstate criminal activity.

01:15:28.000 I'm a fan when child sex traffickers get arrested.

01:15:31.000 Okay, let me be very clear.

01:15:32.000 Whatever you call that agency, the FBI, you know, is that.

01:15:36.000 But the way the FBI is now, they should have every single cent completely drawn away from them as it is right now.

01:15:41.000 It's politicized.

01:15:42.000 It's militaristic.

01:15:43.000 They call moms and dads who show up to school board meetings domestic terrorists.

01:15:47.000 Like, excuse me, you shouldn't get another red cent from the federal budget again if you're targeting moms and dads and you can't even bother looking at the southern border and what's happening there.

01:15:57.000 But it goes even worse than that.

01:15:58.000 You go into the history of the FBI.

01:16:00.000 J. Edgar Hoover, pretty questionable guy, but the FBI came into being because of bank robberies, okay?

01:16:06.000 The FBI came into being because interstate crimes with bank robberies.

01:16:09.000 It has evolved into other interstate type crimes.

01:16:13.000 I think that they've gone way overboard with actually what they should be doing.

01:16:17.000 I think a focused FBI on legit sex trafficking, financial crimes, international wire fraud, all these things.

01:16:24.000 But the problem is the FBI has incredible power, right?

01:16:28.000 And so how do you restrain that?

01:16:30.000 I don't know.

01:16:30.000 I'm not even going to pretend to tell you how.

01:16:32.000 But the more we talk about like, wow, the people with the guns are the ones that are willing to call moms and dads domestic terrorists.

01:16:40.000 What you just talked about in Michigan should be the front page of every newspaper, where you have people that were entrapped by the federal Bureau of Investigation for political reasons for election interference right before the election.

01:16:52.000 They all got acquitted, where they had no intent to kidnap Governor Whitmer, and they almost had their whole life thrown away for, I don't want to, people said they did nothing wrong.

01:17:00.000 I don't know if about the case.

01:17:01.000 They didn't do anything criminal, obviously.

01:17:03.000 And yet they were going to have their entire life destroyed and obliterated.

01:17:08.000 So yeah, strip them of their funding.

01:17:10.000 Realistic?

01:17:11.000 The right choice?

01:17:11.000 No.

01:17:12.000 Yes.

01:17:13.000 Thank you.

01:17:17.000 Hi, Mr. Kirk.

01:17:18.000 How are you?

01:17:19.000 So earlier in your speech, you said that one in five Americans, now one in five people in this country will be illegal.

01:17:24.000 Yes.

01:17:25.000 You were in three years.

01:17:27.000 You proposed that securing our borders will help this situation, but I also think that our green card slash citizenship problem processes a problem. 0.50

01:17:36.000 So how do you suggest that we make it easier for people who want to get in this country legally to do that?

01:17:41.000 Yeah, well, first of all, thank you.

01:17:43.000 I agree with part of that.

01:17:44.000 I don't think, so there's this idea that we have to make it easier to get into the country.

01:17:48.000 I probably agree with that.

01:17:49.000 So I think that we should have a moratorium on immigration right now.

01:17:51.000 I think we got to slow down.

01:17:53.000 We have way too many people coming into America. 1.00

01:17:55.000 We got to throttle back and digest the meal.

01:17:57.000 We got to allow assimilation to happen. 0.96

01:18:00.000 We have way too many people coming into America. 1.00

01:18:02.000 Now, that's not saying legal immigration shouldn't go up again. 0.52

01:18:05.000 I think it could be a phenomenal asset to America, and it has been a phenomenal asset.

01:18:09.000 But many times in American history, specifically the 1950s and early 1960s, we ratcheted back to almost zero immigration into America.

01:18:17.000 The reason is post-World War II, of course, there was a lot of damage in other places, but there was plenty of people that wanted to come to America in the 1950s, a ton.

01:18:25.000 Think about it.

01:18:26.000 Europe is destroyed.

01:18:28.000 But they said, we have a moral obligation to World War II veterans to make sure they have good wages, good jobs, and we're going to deliver for them.

01:18:34.000 That was a moral argument, right?

01:18:36.000 And so legal immigration should always be viewed to the prism.

01:18:39.000 Does it benefit the country and the citizens that are already here?

01:18:43.000 Currently, our legal immigration system is so messed up that we prioritize the people that don't share Western values, and we don't bring the people that could potentially share Western values.

01:18:53.000 I'll give you an example.

01:18:54.000 The best example of how our legal immigration system is messed up is Minneapolis.

01:18:59.000 Have you been to Minneapolis in the last five years?

01:19:01.000 It is unrecognizable.

01:19:02.000 Now, people call me a racist for saying this.

01:19:04.000 I'm not.

01:19:05.000 I don't care.

01:19:05.000 I'm going to say it anyway.

01:19:07.000 When you have a call to prayer approved by a Minneapolis city council, I'm going to tell you that does not mesh with American values.

01:19:13.000 I'm sorry, it doesn't.

01:19:14.000 And when you come into this country and you have someone like Elon Omar that talks endlessly about how awful America is, despite being a beneficiary of the generosity and benevolence of America, I say there's something fundamentally wrong with that, right?

01:19:28.000 Now, I contrast that with some amazing immigrants that come here legally that learn the pledge and they mesh beautifully into American society.

01:19:37.000 So where's the balance?

01:19:38.000 Right now, we have to slow down, throttle it back.

01:19:41.000 We're doing things way too quickly.

01:19:43.000 Our green car system has a million people coming in every single year.

01:19:46.000 So I think that we need to have an English test to come into America.

01:19:49.000 I think that there should be, that certain countries should be prioritized over other countries.

01:19:54.000 I think certain countries share Western values, and we should be unafraid to say that.

01:19:57.000 It's a thought crime.

01:19:58.000 I don't care.

01:19:59.000 All people are created equal.

01:20:00.000 All cultures are not created equal. 0.99

01:20:02.000 They're not.

01:20:03.000 The Chinese Communist Party is not an equal culture to America.

01:20:03.000 I'm sorry.

01:20:06.000 I think there should be a moratorium of Chinese Communist Party people coming into America.

01:20:10.000 Chinese Communist Party values are not synonymous with Western values.

01:20:14.000 They're not.

01:20:15.000 Instead, I want people that fit into the American experiment, fit into the story.

01:20:19.000 And that's not a racial thing, by the way, at all whatsoever.

01:20:22.000 I believe that Cubans can make some of the, have, and will make and do make the greatest Americans in America.

01:20:27.000 It's not a racial thing.

01:20:28.000 Instead, you look at it, you say, wow, is this actually making America more free and fulfilling our obligation to our fellow countrymen?

01:20:35.000 What I just said, I get attacked wildly for.

01:20:37.000 I don't care.

01:20:38.000 It's true and someone needs to say it.

01:20:40.000 And opening your borders, say anyone can come for any reason whatsoever, regardless if they speak the language, regardless that they agree with Western values, regardless of their belief in the Constitution is wrong.

01:20:49.000 And it's destroying the country from within.

01:20:51.000 It is.

01:20:52.000 And you see it in Minneapolis.

01:20:53.000 You have Elon Omar elected to public office.

01:20:55.000 She is the mascot for an immigration moratorium. 0.93

01:20:58.000 You see her, you're like, there's something wrong with that.

01:21:00.000 She has nothing but negative, vile, mean things to say about America when she was rescued in a Kenyan refugee camp and brought in by our own benevolence.

01:21:09.000 Our generosity has been taken advantage over the last 20 years.

01:21:09.000 Guess what?

01:21:12.000 It's time we put our citizens first.

01:21:14.000 Thank you.

01:21:20.000 Hi, Charlie.

01:21:21.000 Thanks for coming.

01:21:22.000 And thanks for everybody being in this room.

01:21:24.000 It gives me a little bit of hope.

01:21:25.000 But I got to say that I'm pretty discouraged.

01:21:28.000 57 House Democrats for the state of Colorado voted to make four grams of fentanyl.

01:21:38.000 That will kill 2,000 people.

01:21:39.000 It's basically a ticket now.

01:21:42.000 If we fill this bag with a pound of fentanyl, that would kill 198,000 people.

01:21:48.000 We collected 12,000 pounds at the southern border.

01:21:53.000 Colorado's the second highest state for drug overdoses from fentanyl.

01:22:01.000 And we have 57 state Democrats just passed the most expansive abortion bill in the country, allowing us to abort a baby right up until like one minute before they're born.

01:22:13.000 I'm discouraged.

01:22:15.000 You talked about the three things we need to do.

01:22:17.000 Sorry, sorry.

01:22:18.000 How do we make, how can I have an impact against these kind of odds?

01:22:24.000 And how do we make housing affordable when it's already gone past some crazy?

01:22:29.000 Two questions.

01:22:30.000 Okay, housing affordable.

01:22:31.000 You got to wage war against the environmentalists because you're not able to build enough homes.

01:22:34.000 I guarantee you that's happening in Denver.

01:22:36.000 It's absolutely happening in California and it's happening in Arizona.

01:22:39.000 The environmentalists want to have less new development because they think it disenfranchises some weird bird no one's ever heard of, right?

01:22:45.000 And so we need to build more homes and we have to build them quickly.

01:22:48.000 And we have a huge housing crisis in our country, the likes of which we have not seen in a long period of time.

01:22:53.000 But I believe that we need to build horizontally, not vertically.

01:22:56.000 It's one of my speeches.

01:22:57.000 Developers don't like it when I say this, but it's true.

01:23:00.000 The higher the building, the more liberal the voter.

01:23:02.000 It just is.

01:23:03.000 So, and if you are the closer to the ground you are, the more conservative you are.

01:23:08.000 We should encourage people to spread horizontally and not vertically.

01:23:11.000 Look at Denver.

01:23:12.000 The higher the high rises, has Denver become less free or more free?

01:23:16.000 It's become a dystopian nightmare.

01:23:18.000 Now, you might say, Charlie, that's a correlation of the causation.

01:23:18.000 You guys know that.

01:23:21.000 Think about it.

01:23:21.000 If you're on the 32nd floor renting, not owning, if you're not in the weeds and in the yard and understanding what it takes to grow food and to maintain the land, are you going to be more or less likely to actually be a conservative?

01:23:32.000 The higher the building, every single study shows they become more liberal over time.

01:23:35.000 It's happening in Phoenix, happened in Denver, happened in Atlanta, happened in Dallas, happened in Chicago, happened everywhere, and yet few people actually say that out loud.

01:23:42.000 Okay, that was housing.

01:23:42.000 Whatever.

01:23:43.000 Fentanyl, look, there's no redeemable value to fentanyl.

01:23:46.000 There isn't.

01:23:47.000 If someone said like fentanyl can help you with something, if you can articulate that for me tonight, what fentanyl helps you with, my mind will be blown.

01:23:54.000 It's a killer.

01:23:55.000 Okay.

01:23:56.000 And we have over 100,000 drug overdoses in our country for two reasons.

01:24:00.000 Number one, China makes the fentanyl and they bring it across our southern border here illegally. 0.65

01:24:00.000 Okay. 0.65

01:24:04.000 Okay.

01:24:04.000 We should sanction China until it stops and they would have it happen immediately.

01:24:08.000 Our leaders are bought by China, so they don't do it. 0.97

01:24:10.000 We secure the southern border.

01:24:11.000 We can restrict fentanyl.

01:24:13.000 And finally, we need to go more after the dealers than the users.

01:24:15.000 I'm going to have a big speech on this.

01:24:17.000 Users shouldn't be doing it, obviously.

01:24:18.000 Many of them don't get to use fentanyl more than once because they get knocked out so quickly.

01:24:23.000 But the dealers, this is why I'm such a big opponent to this like prison reform nonsense, bail reform.

01:24:28.000 Dealers should go to prison for a very long time. 0.99

01:24:30.000 You're trafficking that crap, jail, long time, private cell. 1.00

01:24:34.000 Done. 1.00

01:24:35.000 Thank you.

01:24:35.000 Okay.

01:24:36.000 All right.

01:24:37.000 I think we have time for a couple more.

01:24:40.000 Hey, Charlie.

01:24:41.000 Over the last two years during COVID, I've gotten more into politics and just realizing how important that is in my life.

01:24:47.000 As a Christian, I have friends that don't quite understand the gender ideology debate and how to interact with people of that community while being loving, but also being a fan of absolute truth.

01:25:00.000 How do you go about that?

01:25:01.000 Yeah, look, just don't lie, right?

01:25:03.000 We should want the best for all people.

01:25:05.000 I do not believe transitioning your gender is the right thing for people. 1.00

01:25:08.000 I don't.

01:25:08.000 I think it's a lie.

01:25:09.000 And I think that we should tell people that suicide rates are extremely high for people that transition.

01:25:14.000 There's 30,000 plus people in an open Facebook book, group, open Facebook group, I should say, that are regretting their transition and wish they could reverse it.

01:25:22.000 Transitional regret is a huge thing.

01:25:24.000 And I just think we have to stay very close to biological reality.

01:25:28.000 And this is one of the main reasons why we in the English lexicon in the Western world have messed up what love is.

01:25:34.000 Love is not giving people what they want.

01:25:36.000 It isn't.

01:25:37.000 Love is helping people get towards things that are true, good, and beautiful.

01:25:41.000 And I do not believe assisting or subsidizing someone to chemically castrate themselves is the right thing in any way, shape, or form.

01:25:48.000 Now, if you want to do that, you're like super like into that.

01:25:51.000 I guess there is a pocket to do that.

01:25:53.000 But especially when you look at children and then children without parental consent and then children without parental consent funded by the government, like what are we doing here?

01:26:00.000 So how do we talk about this as Christians?

01:26:01.000 We should want the best for everybody.

01:26:03.000 I pray that someone who's struggling with gender dysphoria can have a collision course with Jesus Christ and give their life to the Lord and realize that they have been living a lie. 1.00

01:26:13.000 I want that for them.

01:26:14.000 I do.

01:26:15.000 I don't wish harm upon them, but I'm also not going to lie.

01:26:17.000 Like I'm not going to do this weird thing that people do.

01:26:20.000 It's like, well, it's your truth.

01:26:21.000 It's actually not.

01:26:22.000 Like God made you a certain way.

01:26:24.000 He made you a certain chromosomes.

01:26:25.000 You might think you're something, right?

01:26:27.000 And so here's the other thing, which is that people say, well, it's what they want.

01:26:31.000 Look, we have societal boundaries against what people want all the time, right?

01:26:35.000 The law is the wise restraint that keeps you free.

01:26:38.000 Now, I'm not equating this morally, so I don't think they're exactly similar.

01:26:42.000 But if we allow people to do whatever they want, we wouldn't have pedophilia laws.

01:26:45.000 We wouldn't.

01:26:46.000 Okay, so we draw a line there.

01:26:47.000 All right, if we allow people to do whatever they want to do whenever they want to do it, then we wouldn't have public decency laws.

01:26:52.000 But they're getting rid of those too, by the way.

01:26:53.000 Like, you know, public nudity is allowed in San Francisco, which is like, of course, like the biggest problem, I guess, they're facing.

01:26:58.000 I don't know, to allow people to walk around that way.

01:27:01.000 So, look, it all comes down to the question of what is love, right?

01:27:04.000 So, we as Christians understand there's four different types of love in the Greek, right?

01:27:09.000 Eros agape, storge, and phileo, a brotherly love, a father and son love, or a mother and son love, or a fatherly, a kind of parental love, right?

01:27:18.000 A romantic love, or a sacrificial love, right?

01:27:20.000 And we conflate all those in the Western world all the time.

01:27:23.000 I believe firmly, and you look at the transition regret, and it will take your breath away at how many people wish they did not transition.

01:27:32.000 So, what happens is they get a transition and they're happy for like five years, and it goes off a cliff completely.

01:27:38.000 All the psychological data shows that.

01:27:40.000 So, the question really is, you know, Charlie, what do you think our role is this?

01:27:43.000 Look, I said it earlier.

01:27:45.000 You want to do whatever you want to do?

01:27:46.000 Like, you want to be a vegan?

01:27:47.000 You want, like, it's not my business, right?

01:27:49.000 However, don't ask me to now reconfigure society that's worked pretty brilliantly for the last 2,000 years because of your own personal opinion.

01:27:56.000 That is pandering to a hyper-vocal minority that will never be appeased.

01:28:01.000 Two separate issues, right?

01:28:03.000 So, I could go back and forth, like, what is good.

01:28:04.000 You saw that earlier.

01:28:05.000 But the separate issue that shouldn't be a question is what we actually do with society, okay?

01:28:09.000 Then, from a Christian perspective, all things with grace and all things with truth.

01:28:13.000 100% grace.

01:28:14.000 We want people to be born new, but do not lie.

01:28:17.000 Do not lie.

01:28:18.000 And that includes calling somebody something that they aren't.

01:28:21.000 Thank you.

01:28:21.000 I appreciate it.

01:28:29.000 Earlier, you mentioned the U.S. turning into the Soviet Union.

01:28:32.000 Given the meteoric rise of anti-white and anti-American rhetoric in left-wing circles, do you believe this language is being used with the intent to turn everyday Americans into kulaks?

01:28:42.000 Kulaks. 1.00

01:28:43.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:28:43.000 Let me tell people what a kulak is.

01:28:45.000 So a kulak was a farmer in the 1930s that owned like an acre of land in the Soviet Union.

01:28:52.000 And they were once friends of the regime, of the Stalin regime, and immediately they became enemies, where anyone that owned land immediately got thrown to gulags and thrown to all sorts of different types of areas.

01:29:04.000 Yeah, look, so I'll say this.

01:29:06.000 I oppose bigotry in every single form, and I also oppose bigotry against white people.

01:29:10.000 And it really bothers me how people are allowed to say that like openly, like the bigotry against white people. 0.96

01:29:15.000 Like, oh, yeah, stop acting so white. 0.97

01:29:17.000 Or I don't like white people. 0.99

01:29:18.000 I think that's wrong.

01:29:19.000 Like, we should, it's wrong against no matter what skin color you say with that. 0.85

01:29:22.000 So I just wanted to introduce with that.

01:29:23.000 Do I think it's a strategy to turn people into kulaks? 1.00

01:29:25.000 I don't know.

01:29:26.000 That might be a step too far.

01:29:27.000 It could be.

01:29:28.000 But do I think that there's a deliberate campaign to try to create an enemy?

01:29:33.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:29:34.000 Every Soviet, every Soviet or totalitarian or tyrannical movement needs an other, right?

01:29:39.000 It needs a movement where they can try and say they're the problem and we need to demonize them. 0.87

01:29:44.000 I believe it's less racial at times and it's more value-based and it's definitely Judeo-Christian.

01:29:50.000 They want anything that is rooted in Judeo-Christianity to be the enemy and to try to wipe it out altogether. 0.62

01:29:55.000 So kulaks are one of the worst, was one of the worst chapters in Soviet history. 1.00

01:30:00.000 So people could learn a lot from it.

01:30:02.000 Appreciate it.

01:30:03.000 Thank you.

01:30:07.000 We'll do three more.

01:30:09.000 Charlie, you spoke about immigration, about 20% of our population being Native Americans.

01:30:14.000 I've traveled to Sweden four times.

01:30:17.000 Yep.

01:30:17.000 And in 1970, he had a social prime minister by the name of Olaf Palm, who led a immigrant, in other words, Finland, from Somalia, from Iraq.

01:30:29.000 And the Malays could not be assimilated into Swedish society.

01:30:34.000 They form ghettos and it backfired on Olaf Palm. 0.96

01:30:37.000 He was assassinated by some male immigrant. 0.99

01:30:41.000 So, what's the question?

01:30:43.000 Don't you think that we need more immigration?

01:30:45.000 You know, do you think we need to find more border patrols?

01:30:50.000 Have our right of work?

01:30:52.000 Yeah, that's been my whole deal.

01:30:54.000 Yeah, look, I think we need restricted immigration. 0.99

01:30:56.000 I said that earlier.

01:30:58.000 And I think we need to take a pause to allow this mass influx of people into America an opportunity to assimilate and to see whether or not this is actually benefiting the American citizen, the American worker. 0.96

01:31:09.000 What you talk about in Sweden is absolutely true.

01:31:10.000 The Swedish Democrats, which is the conservative party in Sweden, is there set for a huge electoral landslide because of mass immigration.

01:31:17.000 Thank you for your question.

01:31:18.000 We got to get to the next one.

01:31:18.000 I'm sorry.

01:31:22.000 Thank you, Charlie, for coming.

01:31:24.000 I have edited this question down, and I'll try to get to the point.

01:31:28.000 What do you think is, what is your opinion about the use of psychedelic drugs in relative terms to therapy?

01:31:36.000 I know it's a controversial topic.

01:31:37.000 I don't know enough about it.

01:31:39.000 Let me be very clear.

01:31:40.000 I'm not in favor of the legalization of weed.

01:31:42.000 I was against it when it happened.

01:31:43.000 I'm against it now.

01:31:44.000 I think that weed does not improve the human condition.

01:31:47.000 I think it makes you less free, not more free.

01:31:49.000 Not a popular opinion to say here in Colorado.

01:31:51.000 I don't care.

01:31:52.000 I'm going to say things that are true.

01:31:54.000 I personally, visiting Colorado my whole life, the moment you legalize weed, this place becomes messier, dirtier, less enjoyable the minute that you guys legalize weed.

01:32:04.000 However, that's not the question, right?

01:32:06.000 I don't know enough about psychedelic drugs or their potential therapeutic sort of benefits.

01:32:12.000 I will say, ketamine therapy, which is intravenously administered, is a type of psychedelic.

01:32:17.000 It is a mushroom.

01:32:18.000 And there's some phenomenal data to show that ketamine therapy, given intravenously, can help people with alcohol addiction, depression, anxiety.

01:32:26.000 So in a controlled medical environment, I actually support the introduction of some of these, but that's not like some people will say like LSD. 0.98

01:32:34.000 I think that's all a bunch of garbage.

01:32:35.000 But ketamine in particular is technically a psychedelic, which is a very, very promising new kind of thing on the block, if you will, that's helping people break through depression, anxiety, and all of that.

01:32:45.000 But I think we got to be really careful going too far east, if you will, into some of this stuff.

01:32:49.000 I know people's lives that have been so damaged by ayahuasca.

01:32:52.000 It's not a joke, everybody.

01:32:54.000 Do not do it.

01:32:55.000 Ayahuasca is a psychedelic.

01:32:57.000 It's done in Central and South America.

01:32:58.000 People are opening up.

01:32:59.000 If you don't know what Ayahuasca is, watch the Vice documentary.

01:33:01.000 I bet a lot of the kids know who Ayahuasca.

01:33:03.000 I'm probably mispronouncing it, but that's a psychedelic.

01:33:06.000 And they say it's for medical purposes, and I'd seen it destroy people's lives.

01:33:09.000 I didn't anticipate talking about psychedelics tonight, but thank you for the question.

01:33:13.000 I appreciate it.

01:33:14.000 Okay, last question.

01:33:16.000 How are you, Charlie?

01:33:17.000 I wanted to ask you about last year's October surprise, the Hunter Biden laptop.

01:33:22.000 Okay, sure.

01:33:24.000 So now that we have liberal institutions like the New York Times recognizing its veracity, I think we know the content.

01:33:33.000 Hunter Biden receiving $4.8 million in consulting fees from a Chinese company and being part of a being a board member in Burisma, receiving $80,000 a month for a job that he's not qualified.

01:33:47.000 I was wondering, since you do a podcast, you're in contact with a lot of politicians and a lot of people active in the Republican movement.

01:33:55.000 I was wondering if, you know, given the trends that we see electorally, it does seem that the Republican Party is to win the House and the Senate back this upcoming election cycle.

01:34:09.000 I was wondering, what is the possibility that there isn't going to be a special counsel, a redux of the Mueller situation, if that does happen in this upcoming cycle?

01:34:19.000 Probably low.

01:34:20.000 It's definitely warranted.

01:34:22.000 So let me just kind of get into some palace intrigue, some stuff what's happening actually with this current regime.

01:34:27.000 Another thing you're seeing is by mistake, all the CNN headlines now covering the Hunter Biden thing extensively.

01:34:33.000 Joe Biden has become unuseful for the current power structure.

01:34:37.000 They gave him a year.

01:34:38.000 They'll see how he did.

01:34:39.000 His numbers are in the tank.

01:34:40.000 He's being blamed for everything.

01:34:41.000 And that's a reason why they are now resurrecting or it's not resurrecting.

01:34:45.000 They're accelerating this probe that was kind of on the fringes.

01:34:48.000 Look, the New York Times and CNN and all these news outlets didn't just come to one day say, you know what, we really messed up.

01:34:55.000 And we, no, they did it because there's a commandment that's been given from the interagency communication channels of people who actually went our government, like Barack Obama and Valerie Jarrett and these other people, where they got to be able to check and balance Biden.

01:35:08.000 My personal opinion, they're going to use the Hunter Biden probe that very well might implicate Joe Biden criminally as a way to get him not to run for a second term.

01:35:16.000 I don't think he was going to run anyway, but this is the way they can keep him in the box and either transition power to Kamala Harris eventually or have someone like Michelle Obama run.

01:35:24.000 Joe Biden is a problem.

01:35:25.000 It's not a problem that's getting better anytime soon.

01:35:27.000 So, and people don't give up power easily.

01:35:30.000 So they have to use the same deep state that spied on Trump, that went after Trump, the same deep state now to check and balance Biden to make sure that he's going to be completely obedient and not run for a second term.

01:35:40.000 We know that these people committed massive crimes.

01:35:42.000 It's just beyond comprehension.

01:35:44.000 There's three types of crimes that were committed.

01:35:46.000 Hunter Biden committed crimes.

01:35:47.000 Joe Biden committed crimes, in my personal opinion.

01:35:49.000 The third thing is even worse, though, that they made America's national security in jeopardy to make money.

01:35:55.000 That's worse than just corruption.

01:35:57.000 Okay.

01:35:58.000 There's a T word for that.

01:36:00.000 But you read the go read the emails, read it yourself.

01:36:03.000 They made policy changes based on contracts.

01:36:08.000 That's bad.

01:36:08.000 Okay.

01:36:09.000 That's not like I'm going to invite you to a state dinner at the White House and get a check.

01:36:13.000 Okay.

01:36:13.000 No, whatever.

01:36:14.000 Okay.

01:36:14.000 That's corrupt.

01:36:15.000 But no, this is like I'm going to change American policy based on a financial incentive that I'm receiving.

01:36:21.000 But don't be fooled, everybody.

01:36:22.000 The DOJ didn't wake up one day and all of a sudden say, you know, we should really go after the Hunter Biden thing.

01:36:27.000 This is done in harmony.

01:36:28.000 It's orchestrated to try and remove a deeply unpopular president who obviously doesn't speak well and all this.

01:36:35.000 We all know that stuff, right?

01:36:36.000 We all know that's happening.

01:36:37.000 And they're not seeing any sort of path towards resolution.

01:36:39.000 His numbers are at 38% approval rating, lower than any other president in recent memory or history.

01:36:44.000 They're not going up anytime soon.

01:36:46.000 And they're freaking out.

01:36:47.000 They want to try to have a reset of the American left-wing agenda.

01:36:51.000 And this is one of their ways to try to do it.

01:36:52.000 Thank you.

01:36:53.000 I appreciate that.

01:36:53.000 So, all right, everybody.

01:36:56.000 I want to reiterate: help out the students that are being forced to get vaccines.

01:37:00.000 Contact CU. 0.95

01:37:00.000 Ridiculous. 0.95

01:37:01.000 Stand up for them. 1.00

01:37:02.000 It's out of control.

01:37:03.000 Stand for what you believe in.

01:37:04.000 Do not allow the lies to impact your life or monopolize your life.

01:37:08.000 You have a decision to make?

01:37:09.000 Like, am I going to continue to conform and to kind of live in secret or in quiet?

01:37:14.000 Or did I hear something tonight that might compel me to be an outspoken conservative, libertarian, whatever patriot to fight for the country?

01:37:21.000 Turning Point USA, we're doing that every single day.

01:37:23.000 You guys can come to our events.

01:37:24.000 We have our Young Women's Leadership Summit, Biological Women Only, tpusa.com/slash YWLS.

01:37:30.000 You can guys come to our student action summit, tpusa.com/slash SAS.

01:37:34.000 I want to thank our amazing hosts that help make this happen.

01:37:38.000 It's very difficult to do this on a college campus.

01:37:40.000 Finally, if you guys want to rewatch this, you could do it on our YouTube rumble or subscribe to my personal podcast.

01:37:46.000 I feel the rise of the citizen all across the country, everybody.

01:37:49.000 Normal, everyday people of all ages, all backgrounds, all races are rising up in a meaningful and impactful way to take back what is rightfully theirs and ours, which is the country.

01:38:00.000 They work for us.

01:38:01.000 We do not work for them.

01:38:03.000 And if we keep on fighting and press forward, we're going to see some amazing results and we're going to see this country back to where it belongs.

01:38:09.000 God bless you guys.

01:38:10.000 Thank you so much.

01:38:16.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

01:38:17.000 Email us your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

01:38:20.000 Thank you so much for listening.

01:38:21.000 God bless.

01:38:25.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - April 30, 2022

Public Nudity, Fentanyl, and the Queer Agenda—LIVE from On Campus at C.U. Boulder

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