The Charlie Kirk Show


Putting the Heat on GOP Senators ft. Megyn Kelly


Summary

Tulsi Gabbard and RFK discuss the hearings and what happened over the Potomac. Megynkellek gives her thoughts on the hearings, and why she thinks Tulsi will get a fair chance to vote yes.


Transcript

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00:01:43.000 So yesterday we had hearings for Kash Patel, Tulsi Gabbard, and the second day for RFKJ. I sat in for an hour plus of the Tulsi hearing, and it was rather disheartening.
00:01:55.000 I did not feel encouraged about her chances by the time I was done.
00:01:58.000 But then later I felt encouraged when I heard what Susan Collins, who is this, you know, kind of Democrat masquerading as a Republican from Maine, said about her impressions.
00:02:11.000 I mean, Trump lost her.
00:02:13.000 I don't think he's going to get her on RFKJ. I don't know.
00:02:16.000 But here's what I saw when she cross-examined Tulsi yesterday.
00:02:21.000 Let's start there.
00:02:22.000 Look at this exchange in SOT9. Have you ever knowingly met with any members, leaders, or affiliates of Hezbollah?
00:02:36.000 No, and it is an absurd accusation.
00:02:41.000 Okay, so there's Tulsi pushing back on her.
00:02:44.000 The cross-examination by Susan Collins wasn't particularly aggressive, but it kind of sounded like that.
00:02:49.000 You could argue that she was just giving her a chance to respond to the things that have been alleged about her, but you could hear Tulsi sort of taking issue with even the suggestion.
00:02:59.000 Well, after the fact, Collins said, I was happy with her responses to my questions.
00:03:07.000 That, too, is a little ambiguous.
00:03:08.000 What does that mean?
00:03:09.000 Like, you were happy she fully answered them?
00:03:11.000 Or you liked what you heard?
00:03:14.000 But I think it's somewhat positive.
00:03:16.000 Net-net, I don't think she would have used the word happy if she were going to vote against her.
00:03:21.000 Now, that doesn't answer the question of whether Tulsi gets through, because there were a lot of Republican senators there who seemed not like fans of Tulsi's.
00:03:32.000 Cornyn of Texas.
00:03:33.000 Lankford of Oklahoma, they did not seem like fans, Charlie, and she certainly had a few Democrats who seemed very against her.
00:03:41.000 So what do you think is going to happen with Tulsi?
00:03:44.000 So a couple thoughts on this.
00:03:46.000 I will defend Susan Collins.
00:03:48.000 She represents a very, very difficult state.
00:03:51.000 She's almost always there when we need her, and that's an important thing.
00:03:56.000 And so I think she's getting the call of like, hey, we might need you for this one.
00:03:59.000 Understand, we did not need her for Hegseth.
00:04:01.000 And so, I mean, of course, we got to a tie.
00:04:04.000 We had J.D. Vance break the tie.
00:04:05.000 Pete Hegseth is now the Secretary of Defense.
00:04:07.000 And she represents a goofy state.
00:04:09.000 For some of these other senators that represent deep red states, there is no excuse and there is no place to hide.
00:04:15.000 But let's understand what she's actually trying to become or what she's applying for.
00:04:20.000 The Director of National Intelligence.
00:04:22.000 This is a relatively new role.
00:04:24.000 It hasn't been around for very long.
00:04:26.000 It was created post 9-11 to actually be the connective tissue between all of the intelligence agencies.
00:04:33.000 It actually is above the Central Intelligence Agency, above the CIA. It has power that has not really been exercised for quite some time.
00:04:42.000 DNI is the custodian of the nation's secrets.
00:04:46.000 It is the keeper of secrets from all the things that our government is doing that They don't want us to always know what they're doing.
00:04:53.000 And the most pressing, of course, that matters to those of us that are Trump supporters is, is there another soft coup being run through five eyes to try to thwart a sitting president of the United States, like what happened during the first administration during Russiagate with Christopher Steele and the dirty dossier to spy on President Trump to try to go after him?
00:05:11.000 And using the FBI and using secret skips and using outside firms like Fusion GPS, is something like that happening again?
00:05:20.000 And the director of national intelligence will be able to tell you yes or no and stop it if it's actually happening in real time.
00:05:27.000 Tulsi Gabbard is an extraordinary person.
00:05:29.000 Her vet file came back like clean, clean, clean.
00:05:32.000 She actively has a top-level security clearance, a TSSCI. She serves in the military.
00:05:38.000 She was a former Democrat, which makes this even more interesting because she has been so focused on...
00:05:45.000 Trying to reorient American foreign policy to an America-first standpoint, not one of neo-globalist, internationalist wars and nation-building at every single corner and every turn.
00:05:57.000 Now, why is it that her confirmation is the hardest of all of them?
00:06:01.000 Well, because the intel agencies...
00:06:04.000 Are so resistant to any change.
00:06:07.000 And a lot of these senators, to be perfectly honest, have been fed BS by these intel agencies for so long and acting as if that they've done nothing wrong and we can't reform them and it's jeopardizing national security.
00:06:19.000 Well, on the other side of it, how much damage has our intel agencies done?
00:06:24.000 We invaded Iraq wrongly, by the way, because of faulty intelligence on weapons of mass destruction.
00:06:30.000 We got involved in Libya, something we never should have gotten involved in, which turned into Libyan civil war because we were told Muammar Gaddafi is like the worst person on the planet.
00:06:39.000 Or how about all the faulty intelligence in the Russian-Ukrainian war?
00:06:42.000 Or the faulty intelligence that we've seen all across the Middle East and Syria or in parts of Lebanon?
00:06:49.000 What Tulsi Gabbard wants to do is restore the integrity of the nation's intelligence service.
00:06:54.000 Now, there's some interesting elements in here, and I've been really hammering this unsuccessfully, by the way.
00:06:59.000 I think it's outrageous that they're not doing this vote in public.
00:07:02.000 It is the only agency official, I think the CIA maybe, but that one wasn't as controversial, where they go into a SCIF, a secure compartmentalized information facility, and they do this vote outside of the public eye.
00:07:16.000 And I think that's outrageous.
00:07:18.000 I think when you're trying to elect somebody who's a lifelong transparency advocate, and you're going to go into a secret facility and we can't see how the actual members vote, I find that to be repulsive.
00:07:30.000 I think people should be incensed about that.
00:07:33.000 I think that our elected officials should not operate in the shadows, that they should tell you how they vote.
00:07:38.000 And so just to reiterate, when they actually end up voting for Tulsi Gabbard.
00:07:44.000 This will not be like how they vote for Bobby Kennedy, where they sit out and they say, I, I, nay, I, okay, the ayes have it, goes out of committee.
00:07:52.000 They go into a secret room where no cell phones, no staff, only members are allowed in a secure compartmentalized information facility, and they'll say, well, what do we think about Tulsi?
00:08:04.000 And they'll take the vote, and they could decide to make the results public, or they could lie about the results, or they could do vote trading.
00:08:12.000 I mean, I think the front page of a certain newspaper says democracy dies in darkness.
00:08:18.000 Hey, Washington Post, any interest in this one?
00:08:21.000 Where our elected senators are going into a skiff to go determine the future of who is the custodian of our nation's secrets?
00:08:28.000 If that is not darkness, what is darkness?
00:08:31.000 Because we don't know how Mike Rounds is going to vote.
00:08:33.000 Or Todd Young, please, yes.
00:08:35.000 The risk in them doing it is, you know, what we think is that if she if they sink her nomination, it will be the Republicans who sink her.
00:08:41.000 I mean, that's that's what's going to happen here because they have the majority.
00:08:44.000 And we won't know.
00:08:45.000 But they were even harder on her yesterday than the Dems.
00:08:48.000 Honestly, it was like it was tough to find somebody who sounded like they were going to defend her.
00:08:52.000 She handled herself.
00:08:54.000 Beautifully.
00:08:55.000 I mean, she was articulate and poised and strong and unflappable.
00:09:00.000 It was to the point where I was there and I brought my assistant, Abby, who comes with me pretty much everywhere.
00:09:05.000 And Abby's got two young daughters and she said, I'm going to make my daughters watch this.
00:09:08.000 I want them to see this.
00:09:09.000 She always looks for strong, articulate women so she can show her young girls, look at that.
00:09:15.000 Like, that's possible.
00:09:16.000 You can be that.
00:09:16.000 That's so great.
00:09:17.000 That's how strong she was.
00:09:19.000 She never, never lost her cool.
00:09:22.000 I mean, it was actually an example in how to handle yourself.
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00:10:29.000 There was absolutely no warmth coming her way from the other side of the aisle.
00:10:32.000 I mean, I should mean, I mean, across the hearing room, whether you were on the left or the right.
00:10:36.000 So I left worried and my pal Glenn Greenwald, who's a big Tulsi advocate.
00:10:41.000 Is worried, too.
00:10:42.000 And I just don't even know what to do to help her, Charlie.
00:10:45.000 I'm not sure how we help her.
00:10:47.000 The one element of hope is that the chairman of the Senate Intel Committee is Tom Cotton.
00:10:53.000 He has voice support, and he went on Sean Hannity's program, and he said that he thinks Tulsi's going to get confirmed.
00:11:01.000 So here is my hope.
00:11:03.000 My hope is that senators who really don't like Tulsi are going to go in this skiff, and they're going to feel all the public pressure.
00:11:10.000 And they'll say, guys, let's just vote to put her on the floor.
00:11:13.000 Now, understand, you can vote for her in committee and then vote against her in the floor, which is probably the deal that they're brokering with Susan Collins, to be perfectly honest, right?
00:11:21.000 That they say, hey, just get her out of committee.
00:11:24.000 Now, once it's on the floor, there is no skiff.
00:11:26.000 There is no hiding.
00:11:27.000 That is in public.
00:11:29.000 My hope is that these senators will all talk a really, really good game.
00:11:34.000 But when that roll call actually starts to come, that they might falter.
00:11:38.000 So we have a 53 Senate majority.
00:11:40.000 So you kind of go with this.
00:11:41.000 Okay, McConnell is probably a no because he's just the worst.
00:11:45.000 Let's just say that John Curtis from Utah is a no.
00:11:49.000 That gets us down to 51. So you could lose one more.
00:11:52.000 Will Susan Collins come through for us in the end?
00:11:54.000 Will Murkowski come through for us?
00:11:57.000 How will Lankford vote?
00:11:58.000 How will Todd Young vote?
00:12:00.000 We don't know.
00:12:01.000 Yeah, Cornyn.
00:12:02.000 I think Cornyn will end up voting for her.
00:12:03.000 Look, if Cornyn does not vote for her, he is done.
00:12:07.000 No, he is done in Texas, by the way, if he does not vote for Bobby Kennedy.
00:12:11.000 And that's not a veiled threat.
00:12:13.000 I can tell right now there is very well-funded opposition that is being mounted.
00:12:16.000 He's in a deep red state.
00:12:18.000 He's already, in a lot of ways, deeply unpopular.
00:12:21.000 We've said at Turning Point Action that if you oppose President Trump's nominees and you are from one of these red states, we are going to fund a primary challenge against you.
00:12:28.000 We've been very open about that.
00:12:30.000 And in fact, we were unafraid to issue those kinds of salvos during the whole Pete Hegseth situation in December and obviously helped contribute to the reversal and the pivot from that.
00:12:42.000 I mean, Pete Hegseth went down from like a 1% to 2% chance of becoming secretary of defense to now just doing an extraordinary job.
00:12:48.000 So I don't want to say, OK, what is the percentage chance of Tulsi advancing?
00:12:53.000 If she gets out of committee, her chances will improve dramatically.
00:12:57.000 Her fight is in the committee, which of course happens in the shadows and in the darkness.
00:13:01.000 All right, let's talk about RFKJ. So I didn't get to the soundbite yesterday, but there was a pretty extraordinary, there were a couple of extraordinary exchanges in his day two in front of the health committee confirmation hearing.
00:13:15.000 He had to go through two.
00:13:16.000 And Rand Paul is just a star.
00:13:18.000 I mean, he, like...
00:13:19.000 Good luck challenging Rand Paul on medical issues.
00:13:22.000 Just ask Dr. Fauci how that went.
00:13:25.000 Rand Paul is one of the reasons Dr. Fauci felt he needed a pardon, because it seemed clear that Dr. Fauci lied to Rand Paul's face repeatedly while under oath about his gain of function, involvement, and so on.
00:13:37.000 And Rand Paul just knew the questions to ask Dr. Fauci during the relevant time.
00:13:41.000 He's been very fearless.
00:13:44.000 So he...
00:13:45.000 Used his time at this confirmation hearing to respond to Senator Cassidy, who also is a doctor.
00:13:51.000 And Senator Cassidy of Louisiana...
00:13:53.000 Cassidy's a problem.
00:13:54.000 He's a problem.
00:13:55.000 He's a pivotal, pivotal vote on this.
00:13:58.000 So I'm going to set it up by showing you Cassidy and RFKJ on vaccines.
00:14:02.000 And then I'm going to show Rand Paul using his time to respond to it.
00:14:06.000 I mean, it may all come down to this.
00:14:08.000 So take a look at Cassidy in SOT20. If you are...
00:14:15.000 Will you reassure mothers unequivocally and without qualification that the measles and hepatitis B vaccines do not cause autism?
00:14:28.000 Senator, I am not going into the agency with any...
00:14:32.000 That's kind of a yes or no question.
00:14:34.000 Because the data is there.
00:14:39.000 And that's kind of a yes or no.
00:14:40.000 And I don't mean to cut you off, but that really is a yes or no.
00:14:43.000 If the data is there, I will absolutely do that.
00:14:47.000 Now, there is the data just because I used to do hepatitis B, as I've said.
00:14:52.000 I know the data is there.
00:14:54.000 Well, then I will be the first person, if you show me data, I will be the first person to assure the American people that they need to take those vaccines.
00:15:06.000 So in response to that, Here's Rand Paul, Saat 21. The reason you have distrust from people at home, why they don't believe anything you say, they don't believe government at all, is you're telling my kids to take a hepatitis B vaccine when he's one day old.
00:15:20.000 You get it through drug use and sexually transmitted.
00:15:23.000 That's how you get hepatitis B. For the record, if a child is born to a hepatitis B mother, that child may have a 95% chance of becoming a chronic carrier.
00:15:33.000 And we vaccinate those people, and nobody's against that.
00:15:36.000 That's a very small percentage in the red area.
00:15:39.000 That is not what we're talking about.
00:15:41.000 99.9% of kids don't have a hepatitis B mom, and could they wait a while?
00:15:46.000 Could they get vaccinated three months or a year?
00:15:48.000 Yes.
00:15:50.000 I mean, that's what Rand Paul understands.
00:15:52.000 But Bill Cassidy is being so stupid.
00:15:55.000 We test for hepatitis B in utero, so we know if the mom has hepatitis B. That's how we're talking about.
00:16:02.000 It is a mandatory, like, minute one vaccination in certain states.
00:16:07.000 Thankfully, in Arizona, even the nurses are like, smart decision when we say no, hepatitis B. I mean, it has lost all trust and credibility in the rank and file.
00:16:17.000 A lot of progress is made on that one.
00:16:19.000 But this is a deeper question.
00:16:21.000 Can we even criticize the child vaccination schedule at all?
00:16:25.000 Like, you're trying to tell me I have to give my eight-month son the COVID vaccine?
00:16:30.000 Why?
00:16:31.000 Prove it to me.
00:16:32.000 No, I'm not doing that.
00:16:34.000 So Senator Cassidy should really, I mean, again, I hope he comes and votes for Bobby Kennedy, but he should be challenged as well.
00:16:42.000 The childhood vaccination schedule has become insane.
00:16:46.000 I can say this as a father of two kids, the rapidity and also what they are vaccinating for are things that I think...
00:16:56.000 A, are not necessary to be inoculated against always.
00:17:00.000 I mean, chickenpox is debatable.
00:17:01.000 I had chickenpox growing up.
00:17:02.000 I can understand the argument both ways.
00:17:04.000 But what is the safety and the efficacy of these vaccines?
00:17:07.000 Is it necessary?
00:17:08.000 Do you have to go through the entire schedule?
00:17:11.000 Are there any side effects?
00:17:12.000 And it almost gets to this place where it's like, we shall never question vaccines.
00:17:17.000 They're nothing but great.
00:17:18.000 Megan, I'm sure you know people that have been vaccine injured, and it's a very serious thing.
00:17:22.000 And they are treated as if they are like modern-day cultural lepers.
00:17:26.000 They're not allowed to be talked to.
00:17:28.000 You're not allowed to be considered.
00:17:30.000 And the COVID vaccine in particular, we had Nancy Mace who came out and said that she's had health problems that have never changed since she got the COVID vaccine.
00:17:39.000 And we were told that it was safe and effective.
00:17:41.000 And yet when we look at all these studies that they reference, it turns out that there's a lot of corruption in the medical and scientific literature.
00:17:48.000 A lot of these pharmaceutical companies are funding these studies.
00:17:51.000 Again, All of us are pro-vaccine.
00:17:54.000 We want vaccines to be safe and effective, obviously.
00:17:57.000 But I'm also a free thinker, and I'm not just going to carry the water for people that have done nothing to earn our trust.
00:18:04.000 And so I hope we can win over Senator Cassidy.
00:18:07.000 I find his comments to just be laughable in some ways because anyone knows that, okay, the hepatitis B vaccine in particular, yes, if a mom has hepatitis B, which we test for, then give the kid the vaccine.
00:18:21.000 But within minutes of a child's birth, you're trying to tell me that there's no side effect for pumping them with a hepatitis B vaccine, which is completely unnecessary, I think is wrong.
00:18:30.000 I think it's one of the reasons why we need Bobby Kennedy so badly.
00:18:33.000 So I certainly hope he'll end up voting for RFK. To me, it's so infuriating.
00:18:37.000 I give my kids all the vaccines.
00:18:39.000 They're not vaccine injured, thank God.
00:18:41.000 By the way, highly recommend the shingles vaccine as an adult because you can get it in your eye.
00:18:46.000 It's just disgusting.
00:18:48.000 Anyway, apparently it's very, very painful too, but that's an adult.
00:18:51.000 That's an adult decision.
00:18:52.000 You can decide whether you want these vaccines or not.
00:18:55.000 Bobby Kennedy, they were all over him on the vaccines.
00:18:57.000 As the audience now knows, he was on the show for four hours.
00:19:00.000 We just spent two, two full hours on vaccines.
00:19:03.000 And not COVID vaccines.
00:19:05.000 These vaccines that he's getting cross-examined over.
00:19:07.000 MMR vaccine.
00:19:08.000 And his long history of alleged vaccine denialism that he got cross-examined over, over and over and over and over again.
00:19:13.000 And the long and the short of it is Bobby Kennedy jumped up and down and said, there's mercury in these vaccines and I don't know that it's safe.
00:19:21.000 And they said, you're crazy.
00:19:22.000 It's totally safe.
00:19:23.000 You're a nutcase.
00:19:25.000 And what wound up happening?
00:19:26.000 They took it out.
00:19:28.000 And we went to all of Bobby Kennedy's critics who said, he's got this problem with mercury in the vaccines.
00:19:33.000 Mercury is totally safe.
00:19:34.000 It's safe.
00:19:34.000 It's safe.
00:19:35.000 And then Bobby Kennedy came out and he explained this all on our show about how it was methylmercury that they were saying was safe.
00:19:41.000 But and they said that it was problematic, but it was this other ethyl mercury.
00:19:44.000 And long story short, the one that they said.
00:19:47.000 It was totally unassailable, stayed in the brain of the monkeys that were tested for months afterward.
00:19:54.000 He explains it all, all right?
00:19:55.000 Good luck challenging him on the science behind the vaccines.
00:19:58.000 The bottom line is they took out the mercury.
00:20:00.000 The same group that had been saying it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, it's safe, took it out.
00:20:04.000 Not because of him.
00:20:05.000 They had a closed-door meeting and they said, you know what, let's remove it.
00:20:08.000 But there's nothing to see here.
00:20:09.000 There's nothing to see here.
00:20:10.000 And then they put aluminum in these vaccines, which works.
00:20:13.000 It's not exactly a preservative.
00:20:14.000 It does something else for the vaccines.
00:20:16.000 But that, too, is a potential neurotoxin.
00:20:18.000 And then they say, it's nothing, it's nothing, it's nothing.
00:20:20.000 Just shove it in your baby and don't give it two thoughts.
00:20:23.000 All of this is going on while the toxic stew that our children are swimming in was growing exponentially from the pollutants in their water and the fluorine and the chloride to the pollutants in their food to the pollutants that is on your sofa and the baby toys and the baby bottles and all around them.
00:20:41.000 And Bobby Kennedy has been saying, can we just pause a little to figure out...
00:20:46.000 What's causing this?
00:20:48.000 Why are the allergies doing this?
00:20:49.000 Why are the ticks doing this?
00:20:50.000 Why is the autism doing this?
00:20:52.000 Why was this something you never even heard of when I was a child to something that is 1 in 30 now?
00:20:58.000 And they look at him and they say, you're a kook.
00:21:01.000 You're dangerous.
00:21:02.000 You, you're dangerous.
00:21:04.000 It's infuriating.
00:21:06.000 It's infuriating to be standing on my side of the aisle with children or yours.
00:21:10.000 And again, with God...
00:21:13.000 Thank God, perfectly healthy children, to say, why are you so determined to stop the questions?
00:21:20.000 And the COVID vaccine is even a more persuasive case where you've got young boys, 15-year-old boys with myocarditis dying, dying, and they won't acknowledge it.
00:21:34.000 I have two questions for you.
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00:22:36.000 By the way, the COVID vaccine is now on the childhood vaccination schedule.
00:22:43.000 So there are 18 months olds that are getting the COVID vaccine.
00:22:46.000 Like, yeah, that's never going to happen.
00:22:49.000 We're not doing mRNA gene-altering technology.
00:22:51.000 By the way, what is the risk if my kid gets COVID? Incredibly low.
00:22:55.000 Like, remarkably low for infants and for kids that get COVID. So there's a lot to unpack there.
00:23:01.000 But I think also, shouldn't the broader question be, okay, vaccines causing autism, whatever, fine.
00:23:07.000 Not going to get into that.
00:23:08.000 But what does cause autism then?
00:23:10.000 Why is it 1 in 30?
00:23:12.000 Can we have a discussion of that?
00:23:14.000 Are there other environmental pollutants?
00:23:16.000 Are there other neurotoxins that we haven't addressed?
00:23:18.000 Is it our diet?
00:23:20.000 Is it radioactivity?
00:23:22.000 I don't know, but something is causing it.
00:23:24.000 Something is causing this massive spike, and yet Bobby is the criminal for noticing.
00:23:31.000 You see, Bobby is the enemy for noticing, and the old expression goes, to find out who controls you, find out what you can't criticize.
00:23:39.000 And we cannot criticize our public health authorities.
00:23:42.000 And the media is so in bed with it for a very simple reason, which I hope the president and Bobby Kennedy get rid of, is you're allowed to advertise on these networks so shamelessly that they have bought the entire media industrial complex.
00:23:54.000 I was laughing.
00:23:55.000 I was watching the Bills-Chiefs game, and I was watching a football game doing work, and all of a sudden, the most ridiculous commercial ever pops up, where it's like some guy running through a meadow, and they list all the side effects of these drugs.
00:24:08.000 You know, might cause sudden death and might cause all these different things.
00:24:11.000 And I said to myself, there's no way that this ad is persuasive.
00:24:14.000 There's no way that there's some guy in Buffalo, New York, watching the Bills game, being like, you know what, now I need to go buy that drug.
00:24:20.000 No, it's part of a broader strategy, which, by the way, pharmaceutical advertisements is actually the lowest cost-per-dollar return of anything.
00:24:28.000 No, it's part of a broader strategy where they're trying to win the goodwill and control these media companies so they get favorable coverage.
00:24:35.000 Yes, that's what it's all about.
00:24:37.000 It's not about promoting their drug.
00:24:39.000 No one cares about it.
00:24:40.000 These are awfully produced commercials.
00:24:41.000 They don't put any energy into it, right?
00:24:44.000 They go through whatever DEI thing of some, you know, black dad playing baseball with his kid in the yard.
00:24:50.000 Like, okay, whatever.
00:24:52.000 It's like nothing against that.
00:24:53.000 And then they say, okay, here's it.
00:24:55.000 Jardians or whatever, you know, get this drug.
00:24:57.000 Ask your doctor about it.
00:24:58.000 Okay, no one actually ends up doing it.
00:25:00.000 Instead, what it does is it gives them air cover against any of the journalist class and any of the people making the decisions at these media companies that could potentially investigate them or yes, or give them a scintilla of negative coverage.
00:25:14.000 It's truly like the warning labels are like, you could try this to decrease your skin itchiness, but it may cause testicular boils.
00:25:22.000 It's like, wait, whoa, whoa, what?
00:25:24.000 Oh, really?
00:25:25.000 That's nice.
00:25:26.000 Who in their right mind would sign on to that?
00:25:28.000 I do want to say this to Senator Cassidy, whose vote we really need, with all due respect.
00:25:33.000 And by the way, I asked the audience to call his office yesterday and gave him the number.
00:25:37.000 And I said I would call, and I did.
00:25:39.000 I personally called.
00:25:40.000 It was actually very funny.
00:25:40.000 They took the number down.
00:25:42.000 The guy was like...
00:25:43.000 The Megan Kelly?
00:25:44.000 I'm like, yes, the Megan Kelly.
00:25:45.000 I want you to...
00:25:47.000 And he was like, do you live in Louisiana?
00:25:48.000 I'm like, no!
00:25:49.000 But I have a loud mouth and I have a lot of listeners who do.
00:25:52.000 Okay, they took the number down, but here's the email that you're supposed...
00:25:54.000 I asked and they told me.
00:25:55.000 The email is Hannah, H-A-N-N-A-H underscore bar, B-A-R-R at Cassidy dot Senate dot gov.
00:26:05.000 Hannah underscore bar.
00:26:06.000 H-A-N-N-A-H underscore B-A-R-R at Cassidy dot Senate dot gov.
00:26:11.000 And I think with all due respect to Hannah, and I'm sure she's a lovely person, and Senator Cassidy follows me on X, so I'm sure he saw the posts I sent his way yesterday.
00:26:19.000 They need to hear from us directly.
00:26:20.000 And here's why I feel so passionately about it, Charlie.
00:26:22.000 Forget all that stuff about MMR vaccine, which will not be banned.
00:26:25.000 Trump has said it will not be banned.
00:26:27.000 Bobby has said it will not be banned.
00:26:28.000 Bobby's past work to ask questions about it is in the past.
00:26:31.000 He's not going to make this an issue.
00:26:32.000 He's made that really clear.
00:26:34.000 He has his beliefs about it, but...
00:26:36.000 Trump is the boss.
00:26:38.000 Look at the COVID vaccine and what you said.
00:26:41.000 No one's allowed to ask questions about it.
00:26:43.000 One of the people I ran into when I showed up at the RFKJ hearing was a guy named Carl Warner.
00:26:48.000 And I know Kyle, Kyle Warner, because he came on the show.
00:26:52.000 He's a mountain biker.
00:26:54.000 Exactly right.
00:26:55.000 He's a mountain biker.
00:26:55.000 And he came on the show during the height of the COVID nonsense and told his story.
00:27:00.000 He lives in Oregon.
00:27:01.000 This is not some far-right dude.
00:27:03.000 And talked about what happened to him after this vaccine.
00:27:07.000 And here's a clip of it.
00:27:09.000 Watch.
00:27:09.000 When I went into the hospital, I said, I don't know what's going on with my heart.
00:27:12.000 I think it may be a reaction to the vaccine because I got the Pfizer vaccine about a month ago.
00:27:18.000 And I've never had heart issues before.
00:27:21.000 So I'm just kind of ruling things out.
00:27:22.000 I don't know if you guys have seen this, but they are linking a heart issue.
00:27:25.000 I'm having this new heart issue after getting the shot.
00:27:27.000 And the guy was...
00:27:28.000 Super dismissive about it and said, no, you're not.
00:27:32.000 Yeah, it was interesting because then the doctor came in and was talking to me about how he said, hey, when I was in medical school, I had a lot of workload.
00:27:38.000 I was really stressed out and I got put on antidepressants and kind of anti-anxiety medication and it really helped me a lot.
00:27:44.000 And I think that would be beneficial for you too.
00:27:46.000 And I was like, thank you, but no, thank you.
00:27:50.000 I think this is just a heart thing I'm dealing with.
00:27:52.000 I'm only anxious now because my heart is racing and I'm worried about my heart.
00:27:56.000 It's episode 222. It's very worth your time to go back and listen to Kyle's story.
00:28:00.000 There's a reason he showed up.
00:28:02.000 This is about more than the MMR vaccine, which is fine.
00:28:05.000 It's in place.
00:28:06.000 It's not going anywhere.
00:28:08.000 It's about a whole, I know it gets overused, but medical industrial complex that cares more about hooking you on drugs like SSRIs and taking every single vaccine so that they can make a ton of money like Pfizer did, like Moderna did.
00:28:23.000 They cannot be sued.
00:28:25.000 And then they don't care.
00:28:26.000 When you get vaccine injured like Kyle, they don't give a shit.
00:28:30.000 Well, RFKJ cares.
00:28:31.000 Jay Bhattacharya is going to care.
00:28:33.000 Marty McCary, ideally at FDA, is going to care.
00:28:36.000 And you need a disruptor like RFKJ at the top to run herd on it.
00:28:42.000 Someone who will not be bullied by these behemoths who have more money than God.
00:28:49.000 That monetize the sickness of the country every day.
00:28:52.000 And we are the sickest we've ever been.
00:28:54.000 We are the least healthy we've ever been as a country.
00:28:57.000 So think about it.
00:28:57.000 We're the most technologically advanced.
00:28:59.000 We have the most breakthroughs.
00:29:01.000 We have AI doing half of our work for us right now.
00:29:04.000 Stock market at record highs.
00:29:05.000 Yet we're the sickest we've ever been.
00:29:07.000 So how does that exactly work?
00:29:09.000 We're the most overweight, the most alcohol addicted, the most drug addicted, the most suicidal, the most anxious, the most depressed that we've ever been.
00:29:18.000 And so something is fundamentally wrong.
00:29:21.000 And of course, you've heard this before.
00:29:23.000 We have a sick care system, not a health care system.
00:29:26.000 And these major conglomerates have no interest in actually having a healthy population.
00:29:32.000 In fact, a healthy population is a threat to the bottom line of Eli Lilly.
00:29:37.000 A healthy population is a threat to the bottom line of Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Moderna, and Johnson& Johnson.
00:29:44.000 A healthy population means that you don't have to have 13-year-olds.
00:29:47.000 Get on Ozembic.
00:29:49.000 As we are having this chat right now, there is a simultaneous congressional debate to put Ozembic on the Medicaid schedule so that teenagers, instead of healthy lifestyle or eating better, can do an injection every week, pill for every ill, and that will solve obesity.
00:30:06.000 And if you look carefully on cable news, because I know all the interest groups behind it, they're running very persuasive ads.
00:30:12.000 They say obesity is killing Americans.
00:30:14.000 Call your senator to say that our government should stand up against obesity.
00:30:19.000 So what they're saying is they're framing obesity as this big problem.
00:30:23.000 We'll call this number to support this bill.
00:30:26.000 They don't tell you what's in the bill.
00:30:27.000 The bill is to put Ozembic on the Medicaid schedule, which would then have kids across the country not pursue healthier lifestyles, but instead have to do an injection for the rest of their life, which has all of these terrible side effects.
00:30:40.000 Oh, and you have gallbladder issues and kidney stones and digestive problems.
00:30:45.000 And only also, by the way...
00:30:46.000 Supports and reinforces all of your other unhealthy habits, right?
00:30:51.000 Eating, exercise.
00:30:53.000 They are now looking at obesity as a permanent genetic condition, not lifestyle choices.
00:30:59.000 They're saying that, well, it's just the way that you were born, and there's nothing that you can do.
00:31:03.000 And what is RFKJ doing?
00:31:03.000 What is Callie Means saying?
00:31:05.000 What is Dr. Casey Means behind him saying?
00:31:07.000 They are talking about the toxins all...
00:31:10.000 Throughout our society, Nicole Shanahan, who was RFKJ's running me, all these people are talking about what causes the obesity.
00:31:16.000 You know, you may be right that it's not entirely your fault, but the solution for a 13-year-old is not Ozempic.
00:31:21.000 It's to get him off of nonstop processed foods, which make you more fat, to get him off of seed oils, which, I mean, go back, and there's a lot of medical research on this now that talk about how that makes you more prone to hold onto your fat.
00:31:35.000 Why are we demonizing meat, right?
00:31:40.000 Lionizing bread for these kids.
00:31:42.000 This team is going to stop all of that, and they're just whistling into the wind right now because they're being painted as a bunch of new-age kooks.
00:31:51.000 I totally agree with you, and honestly, I know Ozempic has helped a lot of people, but it is a totally different game when you are an adult and you are capable of assessing risk versus being a child.
00:32:02.000 I also want to say something else.
00:32:03.000 There was a...
00:32:04.000 Singer?
00:32:05.000 I saw her video on X. I didn't know this young woman.
00:32:08.000 But she said she was only like 19 or 20 and she went on Ozempic and she was warning everybody that it caused massive bone density loss.
00:32:13.000 That she was already suffering from osteoporosis and osteoporina.
00:32:18.000 I forget the word.
00:32:19.000 I know a lot of people that have been hospitalized for.
00:32:22.000 I know people that are getting surgery because of it.
00:32:25.000 Oh, big time.
00:32:27.000 I suffered from osteoporosis years ago.
00:32:30.000 This is even before Ozempic was a thing.
00:32:33.000 Wound up having kind of old lady bones.
00:32:35.000 I don't know why.
00:32:36.000 It happens a lot to thin women who aren't like, it can be helpful to be a heavier person because like you're pounding your bones while you walk and a lot of thin women wind up with this condition.
00:32:44.000 Anyway, not for nothing, I've said this before, but I did go on this once a month injectable drug called E-Venity for whatever it's worth for 12 months and truly it like cured.
00:32:57.000 The osteoporosis.
00:32:58.000 It was gone.
00:32:59.000 And yeah, I got to do a maintenance routine for like a year, the three years I think it is.
00:33:04.000 But it's a miracle.
00:33:05.000 For me, it was a miracle drug.
00:33:07.000 Check with your own doctor.
00:33:08.000 Do all that.
00:33:09.000 But I just wanted that young woman.
00:33:10.000 I don't know how to reach this young woman, but I'm like, she should know about this.
00:33:12.000 Not everybody knows about this drug.
00:33:13.000 Okay, so anyway, that's RFKJ. I don't know what's going to happen with him.
00:33:18.000 Do you want to handicap that one?
00:33:20.000 I give RFKJ a 60-70% chance of getting confirmed.
00:33:25.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:33:27.000 Email us, as always, at freedom at charliekirk.com.