The Charlie Kirk Show - March 11, 2022


Race, Feminism, and Christianity in the Conservative Movement—LIVE from the National Religious Broadcasting Conference


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In this episode, Dr. Paula Price joins me to talk about why the Black community is not as conservative as it has been in the past, and why that matters to her and why she thinks it s a good thing.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk Show starts a very interesting conversation with my friend Dr. Price.
00:00:04.000 Took me a little by surprise, but I think you'll enjoy the dialogue.
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00:01:15.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.
00:01:16.000 We're at the National Radio Broadcast Association here in Nashville, Tennessee.
00:01:21.000 And you meet all sorts of wonderful people at these types of conventions, and they come on your show and you learn from them.
00:01:26.000 So, with us right now is a new friend, Dr. Paula Price, founder of Price University.
00:01:30.000 Uh-huh.
00:01:31.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:32.000 Thank you for having me.
00:01:33.000 I'm looking forward to it.
00:01:35.000 Great.
00:01:35.000 You know, I've heard nothing but sparkling things about you, so we're going to have a blast.
00:01:38.000 You've been talking to my relatives.
00:01:39.000 Well, not actually, that's not true.
00:01:41.000 Not all my relatives would say that about me.
00:01:43.000 So, Dr. Price, introduce yourself to our audience.
00:01:46.000 Well, I am Dr. Paula Price.
00:01:48.000 I have a church and ministry called, well, actually called the Embassy.
00:01:52.000 I'm the pastor and founder of Congregation of the Mighty, where God stands.
00:01:57.000 And I am the founder of Price University, author of the Prophet's Dictionary, The Prophets Handbook.
00:02:02.000 I have a talk show called Taking It On with Paula Price.
00:02:06.000 I train leaders and ministers around the world.
00:02:09.000 So you're an underachiever, basically.
00:02:12.000 You have a school, you have a church, you have the whole thing.
00:02:14.000 So you're an outspoken Christian.
00:02:17.000 You believe in the natural law.
00:02:19.000 I'm also the state committee woman for the Republican Party, District 1 in Oklahoma.
00:02:25.000 In Oklahoma.
00:02:26.000 Oklahoma.
00:02:26.000 Well, that's awesome.
00:02:27.000 So let me just kind of ask you: we can kind of go from there, kind of go from this sort of topic, which is traditionally in the last couple decades, the black community is not conservative, not Republican.
00:02:39.000 What is your theory as to why that is the case?
00:02:41.000 Well, I actually have a historical fact on it that the black Americans were Republican until Nixon.
00:02:51.000 Nixon refused an audience with Martin Luther King, and because he did, Martin Luther King went to Kennedy.
00:02:58.000 And Kennedy gave them the platform.
00:03:01.000 So he took and brought black America under the mask. 0.97
00:03:04.000 So you mean when Nixon was vice president?
00:03:06.000 Yeah, well, when part of that Nixon was president after Kennedy was I know, but when he wanted to have a meeting for him to back them, according to a book I read, I could be wrong.
00:03:16.000 Maybe they didn't.
00:03:16.000 No, no, it would make sense because it would be in the 50s when Nixon was Eisenhower's vice president.
00:03:20.000 Right.
00:03:20.000 And the reason that I say that is because everybody talks about how we only voted Republican.
00:03:27.000 Yes, that's right.
00:03:28.000 Because of Martin Luther King, he shifted us to vote Democratic.
00:03:33.000 Got it.
00:03:34.000 So would you think that mainly in the black community their values are conservative in nature?
00:03:40.000 Yeah, we are very conservative.
00:03:42.000 But the issue is we don't, and I talk to us because I've been Republican since I was 18.
00:03:49.000 I've never been anything else.
00:03:51.000 I mean, I did not like the way the Democrats were running in my neighborhood, in my community, so I didn't.
00:03:56.000 But I do know that we feel like we're ignored or we're misunderstood or we are pretty much not invited.
00:04:04.000 I was on a recent show and I said many times when they bring it, when we're brought in, we're kind of like, see, we're not racist because we have three.
00:04:12.000 Like my least favorite comment is, I have a friend who is black. 1.00
00:04:16.000 I don't want to hear that.
00:04:17.000 I'm sorry.
00:04:17.000 You got my hot button.
00:04:18.000 Forgive me.
00:04:19.000 No, you're fine.
00:04:20.000 I mean, I just.
00:04:20.000 So what do Republicans have to do better to win over black voters?
00:04:24.000 I think a lot of this is conditioning.
00:04:27.000 So, and I have a teaching called Table Talk.
00:04:30.000 Pretty much everything we learned, we learned at the table.
00:04:33.000 Okay.
00:04:33.000 Whether it's the table in a restaurant, the table at a friend's house, it doesn't.
00:04:36.000 Radio table.
00:04:37.000 Radio table.
00:04:38.000 Look at this one.
00:04:38.000 And so the biggest issue is that there are ideas that have been inseminated in us that melded, I think, with our formative years.
00:04:47.000 I think that America right now is more race conditioned than racist.
00:04:50.000 So tell me what that means.
00:04:51.000 Well, racist means you want us out of your world.
00:04:54.000 You don't want us to ever have success. 0.96
00:04:56.000 You really wish we would be destroyed.
00:04:58.000 And if there was ever any way to purge the land of minorities, you would take it. 1.00
00:05:04.000 That's racism.
00:05:05.000 Race conditioning is, I grew up with comments and commentary that I didn't know were wrong, but they are part of my psyche and they are forming and shaping my reactions and my behaviors.
00:05:15.000 If someone makes me learn better, then I will make a decision of my own accord to no longer do that.
00:05:21.000 So give me some example of race conditioning.
00:05:24.000 Well, race conditioning is how we hear comments like, you're a credit to your race.
00:05:28.000 Yeah.
00:05:29.000 That's a conditionment.
00:05:30.000 That is not, you don't, I mean, because you don't even know my whole race.
00:05:33.000 You know what I mean?
00:05:34.000 So you know what we, what's accredited or not.
00:05:36.000 Race conditioning is, I want you to succeed. 0.63
00:05:39.000 I just don't want you in my neighborhood because I've heard you tear up neighborhoods.
00:05:43.000 Those are conditionings that don't wish us ill will, but they don't want to bring us into the fullness of the American dream in their neighborhood.
00:05:52.000 Big one is, if your daughter had a black child, how would you feel about it?
00:05:57.000 Well, I don't want my seed sully.
00:05:58.000 It's not that I don't believe in people being happy.
00:06:01.000 I don't want my seed sully.
00:06:03.000 I want my seed to stay pure white. 0.60
00:06:05.000 Those are conditionings.
00:06:06.000 Those are not, we wish you evil. 0.88
00:06:09.000 We want you to cease to exist. 0.93
00:06:11.000 Right. 0.97
00:06:11.000 So what do Republicans need to do better or conservatives to win over black voters? 0.97
00:06:16.000 They need to, right now, we don't really believe they want us to do better.
00:06:21.000 They want us that close in their world.
00:06:23.000 And I'm speaking as the collective, not me personally.
00:06:25.000 Blacks? 0.99
00:06:25.000 Yeah, blacks. 0.99
00:06:26.000 We don't really believe that.
00:06:27.000 Like, for example, we go to Republican meetings and they can have six, 700 people.
00:06:32.000 They have three black people who reached out to the black folks.
00:06:35.000 Nobody even knew the meeting existed.
00:06:37.000 So, or either we'll get, we'll have all of these talks.
00:06:40.000 You can, you know, sit at the table.
00:06:42.000 But when you're talking about being at the think table, being part of our thought, your thought structure, we're not invited.
00:06:48.000 Yeah.
00:06:49.000 You really think that's true?
00:06:50.000 Well, I'm in it now.
00:06:53.000 I recently said to someone, I got elected thinking that all of these great things were going to happen and that things had changed.
00:06:59.000 And I was told, nothing's changing.
00:07:02.000 We're going to stay the same.
00:07:03.000 We're glad you made it, but we already have something in play and we are not willing to have it stopped.
00:07:08.000 So in other words, don't bring your ideas.
00:07:10.000 Okay.
00:07:11.000 So what so what ideas do you think in particular would be able to win over the black community?
00:07:17.000 I think, first of all, learning us beyond black.
00:07:20.000 Like, I'll be glad when we stop being the black community and we start being part of the conservative structure or the thought like I need that. 0.89
00:07:28.000 I always ask a question, Charlie.
00:07:29.000 And you know what my favorite question is?
00:07:31.000 How do you find America without color?
00:07:33.000 How do I define it?
00:07:34.000 Yeah.
00:07:35.000 Well, I mean, I don't really care much about race, to be honest.
00:07:38.000 You may not, but America is defined by ethnicity and race.
00:07:42.000 According to who?
00:07:43.000 According to all of our literature.
00:07:45.000 Look at your commercials and look at all of the when we see if I look online when you look at the commercials online and they have a lot of them.
00:07:52.000 Very few of them are other.
00:07:54.000 And I'm not just fighting for blacks.
00:07:55.000 I'm just saying, can we have a one-minded America?
00:07:58.000 That's my passion.
00:07:59.000 Yes.
00:07:59.000 That's all I want is a one-minded America.
00:08:02.000 I'm not defining you.
00:08:04.000 You and I walk in a room and we say, I've invited the head of so-and-so.
00:08:08.000 They're going to call.
00:08:09.000 They're going to come to you.
00:08:11.000 Even if I am the person that happens to me all the time.
00:08:15.000 I'm not really tracking what you're saying.
00:08:16.000 In other words, if I'm brought in, if they say, I want to bring in Price University.
00:08:21.000 Okay.
00:08:21.000 Okay.
00:08:22.000 And I come and you come.
00:08:24.000 The person in the lobby is going to come to you.
00:08:26.000 You don't know that.
00:08:28.000 That's a stereotype.
00:08:29.000 You can't.
00:08:29.000 That's a prejudice.
00:08:30.000 No, no.
00:08:30.000 You cannot call a prejudice my experience.
00:08:33.000 You can, of course, but I live.
00:08:36.000 You can't talk to about my testimony.
00:08:38.000 Do you know what it's like to be a white man?
00:08:39.000 I don't know what it's like.
00:08:40.000 Oh, there you go.
00:08:41.000 So you don't know my experience.
00:08:42.000 I know what they've done.
00:08:44.000 But I know what it's like to work for one.
00:08:45.000 I know what it's like to have to stand in a room with one.
00:08:47.000 I know what's happening.
00:08:48.000 And I've had one experience.
00:08:49.000 What are you talking about?
00:08:50.000 I'll be very honest with you.
00:08:52.000 You think that white people have mistreated you?
00:08:54.000 Well, how would you know if you've never been mistreated?
00:08:56.000 You couldn't call, well, we live mistreatment. 0.99
00:08:59.000 I'm not really tracking your whole shit here. 0.99
00:09:00.000 I'll be very honest. 0.99
00:09:01.000 And I'm not tracking yours, but it's really.
00:09:03.000 I'm just listening to you. 0.99
00:09:05.000 No shit. 0.95
00:09:05.000 But you know, the thing that I want you to know, if you hear anything, the one thing that we have always been accused of is stereotyping, having an issue that doesn't exist, because that's what people who deflect. 0.95
00:09:18.000 I'm not accusing you of any of that.
00:09:19.000 But you just told me my experience wasn't real.
00:09:21.000 No, I said you can't formulate public policy on your experience.
00:09:25.000 But you don't know how big my experience is.
00:09:27.000 Well, like, let me give you an example.
00:09:28.000 A friend of mine's dad died because he was suffocated by a seatbelt.
00:09:32.000 You can't design policy based on that.
00:09:34.000 But we're not talking about seatbelts.
00:09:36.000 We're talking about it.
00:09:37.000 Your experience could be an exception.
00:09:38.000 It could be one-off.
00:09:40.000 It could be a misinterpretation.
00:09:42.000 It could be a feeling.
00:09:43.000 You're right.
00:09:44.000 My experience is still my life.
00:09:46.000 It's still an imprint in my soul.
00:09:47.000 It's still in my memory.
00:09:49.000 And you can't read my memory.
00:09:51.000 You can't wake my memory.
00:09:52.000 You can't gauge my memory.
00:09:54.000 You can't evaluate.
00:09:55.000 You're getting worked up here.
00:09:56.000 I'm having fun.
00:09:57.000 Did you tell me I was supposed to have fun?
00:09:58.000 Well, no, I said to let loose and make sense, which I'm not really understanding.
00:10:02.000 What's the point of your saying?
00:10:03.000 I asked how Republicans can win over black voters.
00:10:06.000 Let's back up.
00:10:07.000 Can we back up?
00:10:08.000 Sure.
00:10:09.000 I'm just listening.
00:10:10.000 You asked me for my experience, what I experienced, where I live.
00:10:13.000 You did ask me that.
00:10:14.000 Uh-huh.
00:10:14.000 Okay.
00:10:15.000 And I told you my experience, and you disagreed with it because you felt it was stereotypical.
00:10:19.000 Now, you disagreed with it without knowing the scope of where it came from or how it happened.
00:10:23.000 I pushed back on the generalization that if we both walked into the room, they would immediately assume the white man's in charge.
00:10:29.000 Well, I tell you what.
00:10:30.000 I disagree with you.
00:10:31.000 That's okay.
00:10:31.000 I'll tell you what we can do.
00:10:33.000 You want to know what we can do?
00:10:34.000 Ask 25 black people and ask 25 honest white people. 0.66
00:10:41.000 Because ask them if we were both in a room and somebody came in and went to the bathroom. 1.00
00:10:45.000 That's a ridiculous thing. 0.94
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00:12:02.000 You wanted to know about the Republican landscape?
00:12:04.000 Yeah, I was just kind of curious about it.
00:12:06.000 Or Tulsa or just generally, like, what are conservatives doing wrong or what they could do better?
00:12:11.000 First of all, I don't think, I think wrong is probably a little strong only because we do what we know.
00:12:16.000 And we do what we know because it's what we've been trained to do.
00:12:20.000 The only thing that I would look forward to is a rich, open dialogue.
00:12:24.000 For example, I have some powerful friends in Oklahoma, and they are part of how I got elected.
00:12:30.000 These people want to know how to fix the problem.
00:12:33.000 This is the counsel I give to everyone in this position.
00:12:37.000 My counsel is if you have a situation, you have a problem, if you acknowledge it and then take the lead in fixing it, you own the fix.
00:12:46.000 If someone has to fix it for you, then you've lost your grip.
00:12:50.000 So tell us more about Price University and the work that you're doing.
00:12:54.000 Well, Price University was born out of the idea that we could not accredit apostles and prophets and the five-fold and the threefold.
00:13:04.000 You can get a degree as an evangelist, pastor, or teacher.
00:13:08.000 You cannot get a degree in the traditional setting as a prophet or an apostle.
00:13:13.000 Yet we're supposed to be first and second.
00:13:16.000 Well, if we can't be accredited, if we can't be credentialed so that we sit at those tables and contribute to the decisions and the actions, then we're just figureheads.
00:13:25.000 And so I founded Price University curriculum.
00:13:29.000 I designed it for, it's taken me 25 years.
00:13:32.000 I designed it over 25 years.
00:13:34.000 I wrote most of the textbooks, and we're now en route to accreditation.
00:13:38.000 So, and this is in Oklahoma, is that?
00:13:40.000 Oklahoma.
00:13:40.000 But it's also online.
00:13:42.000 So talk to us just kind of in general about some of this kind of social decline we're seeing, the transgender movement, all of this. 1.00
00:13:50.000 Do you have comments on this?
00:13:51.000 Do you talk about this openly?
00:13:53.000 Yeah.
00:13:53.000 Now, come on, Charlie.
00:13:54.000 You know what I'm saying?
00:13:55.000 Tell me.
00:13:56.000 Literally, I talk about it, and I just got through discussing it.
00:13:56.000 Literally.
00:14:00.000 People ask, how did we get here?
00:14:02.000 We got here by first diminishing sex.
00:14:04.000 We took sex out of the sanctity.
00:14:06.000 I completely agree with that.
00:14:07.000 Then we went from there to we went from taking it out of marriage to making it, making it an obsession.
00:14:12.000 You have a pimple because you haven't had sex. 0.90
00:14:14.000 You know, you're cranky because you haven't had sex. 0.98
00:14:17.000 See, I'm old enough to remember those arguments.
00:14:19.000 No, that's exactly right.
00:14:20.000 So we went from there. 0.97
00:14:21.000 Then we moved forward to everybody needs sex just to feel good about themselves. 0.85
00:14:27.000 Now, all of that was opening the door. 0.79
00:14:28.000 But what really knocked down the gate was Woodstock.
00:14:33.000 Interesting.
00:14:33.000 Woodstock.
00:14:34.000 Because it's known as the free love, free sex. 0.91
00:14:34.000 Okay. 0.91
00:14:36.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:14:38.000 We've talked about Woodstock a lot on this program.
00:14:40.000 And so it knocked it down.
00:14:41.000 And what it did was it also ushered in a whole lot of unclean forces that made it, that's inseminated our entire environment, our psychic, if you will.
00:14:51.000 From there, we came up with the idea of what?
00:14:54.000 Merchandising it.
00:14:55.000 And you and I both know when you take an ideology and you merchandise it, it becomes an industry.
00:15:02.000 And so what do we have? 0.96
00:15:03.000 Sex on Wall Street. 0.96
00:15:05.000 Did we ever think we'd see that?
00:15:07.000 In my time, I never imagined we'd see that.
00:15:09.000 It is now an industry.
00:15:11.000 They call it the sex trade industry. 1.00
00:15:13.000 So once you add the financial or the money factor, it's not going to reverse.
00:15:18.000 Too many people are invested in it.
00:15:20.000 So now we've gotten sex out there. 0.94
00:15:22.000 So then, oh man, we're bored with just straight sex. 0.99
00:15:24.000 Let's go and bring up, as they say, let's let the homosexuals out of the closet because this is an industry. 1.00
00:15:30.000 And so can an industry define how we're going to do this?
00:15:33.000 So now we have them out of the closet.
00:15:35.000 Well, we've done that.
00:15:36.000 They're out of the closet.
00:15:37.000 We're giving them, you know, rights.
00:15:39.000 They have bought into everything because when you track their movement, they bought the right to say.
00:15:46.000 And they paid for their place.
00:15:48.000 So now we go there, and now we have the other last major milestone is what?
00:15:52.000 Transgenderism. 0.67
00:15:54.000 Let's just change our sex. 0.97
00:15:55.000 I remember when I grew up, an applications had gender on it, not sex.
00:16:00.000 Now, but they had to save that word for today.
00:16:03.000 So we have transgender, cosmetic transformation of your gender or your sexual orientation. 0.97
00:16:10.000 Because the transgender is a cosmetic version of God's creation. 1.00
00:16:15.000 So basically, your argument is that there's been this moral decline of the last couple decades, and Woodstock was really this kind of center point of a lot.
00:16:24.000 Is that right?
00:16:25.000 Yeah, I think it was, to me, it was the institutional trigger.
00:16:30.000 Its job was to tear down the institution of monogamy.
00:16:35.000 So Dr. Price, how could people follow you and your website or get behind you?
00:16:38.000 You can go to meetpaulaprice.com and you can find everything you need to know about me there.
00:16:43.000 Dr. Price, this was fun and lively.
00:16:46.000 And can get to another guest here, but I want to thank you for being honest and candid and God bless you.
00:16:52.000 Seriously, and thank you for your great work.
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00:19:08.000 With us right now is Cynthia Garrett, who is a TV host at TBN and also part of the Salem family and an evangelist.
00:19:14.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:19:16.000 Thanks.
00:19:16.000 It's good to be here.
00:19:17.000 How are you?
00:19:18.000 Thank you.
00:19:18.000 Good.
00:19:18.000 So just introduce yourself a little bit further to our audience.
00:19:21.000 Oh, gosh.
00:19:21.000 Let's see.
00:19:22.000 Well, it's great to be here.
00:19:23.000 I'm a fan of yours.
00:19:25.000 I love what you young Turks are doing, to be honest with you.
00:19:28.000 I've been a television host for a long time.
00:19:30.000 Yeah, you young Turks. 0.98
00:19:32.000 I don't know about you.
00:19:33.000 I'm not sure.
00:19:34.000 Oh, okay.
00:19:34.000 That's an insult, but okay.
00:19:36.000 All right.
00:19:37.000 It's not.
00:19:37.000 Oh, yeah, it is.
00:19:38.000 It's a compliment.
00:19:38.000 No, no, no.
00:19:39.000 The young Turks were like the Hitler youth, but that's okay. 1.00
00:19:41.000 We'll talk about that later.
00:19:42.000 Seriously.
00:19:43.000 Yes.
00:19:43.000 Okay, well, in Hollywood, where I grew up, young Turks were the guys that actually ran the industry.
00:19:48.000 Oh, really?
00:19:49.000 Yes.
00:19:50.000 Okay.
00:19:50.000 Got it.
00:19:51.000 Yeah, my son.
00:19:51.000 Because there's a left-wing organization called the Young Turks.
00:19:54.000 See, but Charlie, I'm not that hit.
00:19:56.000 That's okay.
00:19:56.000 You're good.
00:19:57.000 I'm not that cool.
00:19:57.000 I'm younger than you.
00:19:58.000 No, you're very cool.
00:19:59.000 I'm older than you by far.
00:20:01.000 That's okay.
00:20:01.000 No, I've been in television my entire life, to be honest with you.
00:20:06.000 I started out, I became the first woman of color to ever be given a network late night show.
00:20:10.000 I started out on VH1, went to NBC Network, and then have been under network contract for years.
00:20:16.000 My faith started me producing faith-based TV shows and content for TBN and other Christian platforms like Salem.
00:20:24.000 And, you know, I do publish my books through Salem.
00:20:28.000 I did my first book with them, well, my second book with them, actually.
00:20:31.000 My second book is called I Choose Victory: Moving from Victim to Victor, which was released at the height of the pandemic.
00:20:38.000 And not a lot of people wanted to talk about not being a victim through the last year.
00:20:42.000 But why do you think that is?
00:20:43.000 Why do people enjoy being victims?
00:20:45.000 Because I think there's something called poverty of the mind that has afflicted America.
00:20:49.000 What is that?
00:20:50.000 That's interesting.
00:20:50.000 What is it?
00:20:51.000 It's interesting.
00:20:52.000 It means I'm a victim.
00:20:53.000 I go to victims' groups because in the beginning, it makes me feel like I'm not a freak and I'm okay.
00:20:59.000 But then somewhere along the way, you get entrenched in being a victim and holding on to victimhood because it sort of releases you from taking responsibility for your own move from victimhood to victory.
00:21:13.000 And the choice is really ours individually to make.
00:21:16.000 A lot of bad crap has happened to me in my life, and I could certainly stop and be angry.
00:21:21.000 Or I could move forward and take the hand that life gave me and move into my own success. 0.85
00:21:27.000 And that's always been my choice.
00:21:29.000 So, what compelled you in your own personal journey to then become a victor?
00:21:33.000 I mean, because that's not a step a lot of people make people make.
00:21:37.000 No, my faith and my father.
00:21:39.000 My dad, Bernard Garrett Sr., became the first black man to ever own banks, white banks.
00:21:44.000 He owned and controlled seven white banks in America throughout the South and the state of Texas in the early 60s.
00:21:50.000 So imagine the frame of reference, right?
00:21:52.000 My dad had to disguise himself as a chauffeur or a janitor to get into his own board meetings.
00:21:57.000 There's a movie on Apple called The Banker.
00:21:59.000 Hollywood changed my mother to a black woman in the banker to keep the race narrative alive. 0.99
00:22:04.000 My mother's as white as you. 1.00
00:22:06.000 So they changed it to try to make it, what was the scheme there?
00:22:10.000 I think the steam there was they made an unauthorized film about a national treasure, my father.
00:22:16.000 And in order to deal with keeping the race divide alive in this nation, you couldn't be able to do that. 0.63
00:22:22.000 If there was a white mother, it becomes less of a thinking. 0.94
00:22:28.000 I agree.
00:22:29.000 That's fascinating.
00:22:30.000 I interrupted you, though.
00:22:30.000 So your father impacted you.
00:22:32.000 My father, yeah, my father said to me on his deathbed, you know, honey, life is going to deal you wrongs.
00:22:38.000 It's going to do you harm.
00:22:40.000 But you have a choice to make.
00:22:42.000 So you can take the first 20 minutes and grieve and get something bad out of your system. 0.99
00:22:47.000 But after 20 years, you're a fool because you are the only one that can make the choice to take the hand that you have and choose victory with it. 0.98
00:22:56.000 And so I was raised by parents. 0.99
00:22:58.000 I mean, my parents marched on Washington with Martin Luther King.
00:23:01.000 I was raised by parents who sacrificed to make sure that we could have advantages.
00:23:06.000 And even with disadvantages, I was raised by people who always said it's still my choice.
00:23:12.000 You know, it's my choice.
00:23:13.000 I mean, anger and unforgiveness will kill you.
00:23:16.000 And that's the problem we have in America today, unfortunately, is a lot of people don't want to forgive what's gone on in their past.
00:23:22.000 Yeah.
00:23:22.000 And you think that there's more comfort in being a victim?
00:23:27.000 You know, I do.
00:23:28.000 I think that there's more comfort in choosing to be a victim because then you don't have any responsibility.
00:23:34.000 You just, unfortunately, you just sort of drown, though, In anger and bitterness and entitlement, you know, and it's, yeah, I do think there's more comfort in it.
00:23:48.000 Charlie, I also think that a lot of people just don't know how to make the choice.
00:23:52.000 I don't think that people, you know, if you really explain to someone what living their life as a victim in their mind really does to them and what it does to their children and what it does to their communities and generation upon generation, I think that there could begin to be an understanding of the fact that you got to just at some point say, I got to get over this.
00:24:13.000 I got to get past this.
00:24:14.000 I have to take responsibility for myself.
00:24:17.000 And unfortunately, our country, especially our current administration, likes to basically keep victims victim because you can control people when they choose to identify with all these different victim groups.
00:24:31.000 That's exactly right.
00:24:32.000 So your faith helped you a lot as well.
00:24:34.000 My faith is everything.
00:24:36.000 Sure.
00:24:36.000 With God, all things are possible.
00:24:38.000 I mean, I don't take, I don't listen, I don't read the Bible and pick and choose what I believe.
00:24:44.000 I'm a literalist in terms of the word of God.
00:24:46.000 It is true.
00:24:47.000 If it is in the word of God, it is true.
00:24:49.000 And so I've lived my life taking him at face value.
00:24:53.000 And when I take him at face value, he never proves me wrong.
00:24:56.000 So I believe that I can do all things.
00:24:59.000 And you spread this message across the country.
00:25:01.000 Every chance I get.
00:25:03.000 I really, I left a very successful Hollywood career to make faith-based programming where there is no money.
00:25:08.000 You know, ministry is, will you do it for free?
00:25:11.000 Right.
00:25:12.000 But for me, I didn't need the money.
00:25:15.000 I needed people to understand the gospel that really has saved my life and has set me free in so many ways.
00:25:22.000 You know, and so that's, I love to share that with other people.
00:25:25.000 And I think it's what's missing even in the political landscape.
00:25:28.000 I often say we don't necessarily have a Democrat problem or a Republican problem.
00:25:31.000 We have a Jesus problem. 0.96
00:25:34.000 We had a real big Jesus problem in America. 0.98
00:25:36.000 And to think that this country wasn't founded on Jesus is to lie to yourself.
00:25:42.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.
00:25:44.000 So talk about the state of women in America right now. 1.00
00:25:47.000 We have a lot of female listeners. 0.98
00:25:49.000 We do believe in the differences between men and women. 0.79
00:25:52.000 So what's the state of women in America? 1.00
00:25:54.000 Are they in a healthy state or an unhealthy state?
00:25:56.000 Generally, of course.
00:25:57.000 Generally, I think women are in an unhealthy state again, but I think it's gone beyond unhealthy. 1.00
00:26:04.000 I think we're in a dangerous state.
00:26:06.000 Dangerous because when you start to embrace and support a culture that says to you, and to your little girl, she's cute, but now a guy can also be her.
00:26:17.000 That's a problem because now you're basically abusing her. 1.00
00:26:21.000 And I think what we're doing in terms of a lot of the issues to try to love and help the marginalized, you know, this whole transgender movement, I have compassion for anyone struggling with identity in any way.
00:26:36.000 Now, I happen to believe that all identities should be rooted in Christ.
00:26:39.000 Amen.
00:26:40.000 That said, I also have great compassion for little girls who are now being told you have to compete against men and they can be you because they identify with you.
00:26:51.000 And we're discounting science and biology.
00:26:54.000 I'm obsessed with what's going on with Leah Thomas, the transgender swimmer.
00:26:58.000 Sure, she's sweeping NCAA events. 1.00
00:27:02.000 Yeah, right.
00:27:03.000 She's sweeping these events.
00:27:04.000 He, right.
00:27:05.000 And he's beating these girls.
00:27:07.000 Of course, he is.
00:27:08.000 And these times and records that are being set, no woman can come along and break these times because they weren't set by a woman. 0.98
00:27:16.000 So why do you think there's large science, a lot of silence from most of the feminist groups on this? 1.00
00:27:21.000 Oh, feminists should be up in arms. 1.00
00:27:23.000 I think because feminists have backed themselves in a corner. 1.00
00:27:28.000 If they get up in arms and speak out against it, they're kind of going against a group, the LGBTQ, who's sort of lumped into their we're all marginalized, we all want to fight together group.
00:27:41.000 In reality, feminists really, feminists really have a big problem because if feminism is meant to protect women, just like Title IX, Title IX is really implemented to protect young girls in sports, right? 1.00
00:27:57.000 So, I mean, based on sex, we're not protecting them based on sex, not when we're letting men who identify as women compete against them.
00:28:04.000 So, I think, I think, look, I think feminism caused a lot of problems in our country. 1.00
00:28:08.000 I mean, I don't even know where to start.
00:28:10.000 I mean, let's face it, you know, I love being a woman, you know, and I've never felt marginalized or I've never felt less intellectual, less capable.
00:28:19.000 I've never felt unintelligent.
00:28:20.000 My husband supports me.
00:28:22.000 I'm a very strong, powerful, independent female.
00:28:26.000 However, I love my role as a wife and a mother.
00:28:30.000 I love them.
00:28:31.000 I embrace my God-given role.
00:28:33.000 And unfortunately, people don't understand what it means to sit under a proper male covering.
00:28:38.000 I do because I understand biblically that Jesus Christ is my proper covering.
00:28:43.000 And when I submit to a man who loves the Lord, guess what?
00:28:47.000 I'm okay.
00:28:48.000 A lot of female listeners we have struggle with that. 0.99
00:28:52.000 They say, I will never submit to a man. 0.97
00:28:54.000 Yeah, I hear you, sisters.
00:28:55.000 You know what?
00:28:56.000 I said the same thing.
00:28:57.000 I remember when my husband asked me to get married, and I looked at him and I said, Are you?
00:29:00.000 Listen, I got to tell you something.
00:29:02.000 I love you, but I will never submit.
00:29:04.000 I'm not down with that.
00:29:05.000 And he said to me, He goes, you know what?
00:29:07.000 You don't know the whole chapter.
00:29:09.000 You're stopping at part of the scripture.
00:29:11.000 Husbands love your wives like Christ loved the church.
00:29:14.000 Husbands, be willing to die for your wives the way Christ died for the church. 0.93
00:29:18.000 Now, listen, the problem for all you female listeners, the reason why you don't want to submit is you're probably dating a guy who not only wouldn't die for you, he doesn't know anything about.
00:29:29.000 He doesn't have any testosterone or anything else.
00:29:33.000 That's probably part of the problem.
00:29:34.000 I'm very honest.
00:29:35.000 The state of young men is a joke. 1.00
00:29:37.000 The state of young men is a joke. 1.00
00:29:39.000 Yeah, no, it's true.
00:29:40.000 Yeah, but, well, because if, listen, the agenda is clear.
00:29:44.000 If we can make all young men pansies, and we can release all young men from responsibility for men. 0.97
00:29:50.000 Women become men. 0.99
00:29:51.000 That's right.
00:29:52.000 So women become men. 0.98
00:29:53.000 And ultimately, it's an attack on marriage.
00:29:55.000 And if marriage is attacked, now this is going to maybe go a little bit further than a lot of your listeners can follow me, but try to hear me on this.
00:30:02.000 Marriage is the paradigm of what we as faith believers believe, that we're the bride.
00:30:09.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:30:10.000 The church.
00:30:10.000 That's what our listeners are tracking.
00:30:11.000 Okay, we're the bride, right?
00:30:13.000 We're the bride of Christ.
00:30:14.000 He's the bridegroom. 0.58
00:30:15.000 We're waiting for what?
00:30:16.000 The great wedding feast of the lamb.
00:30:19.000 If we destroy the concept of marriage here on earth, there's no understanding of any of that in the Bible.
00:30:25.000 It now sounds like malarkey.
00:30:27.000 That's so interesting.
00:30:28.000 So as marriage is destroyed, the theological significance of that illustration just goes away.
00:30:35.000 Absolutely.
00:30:36.000 And if the theological illustration and the significance of it goes away, what happens now to all the lost souls down here on this earth trying to find happiness outside of their actual identity as created by God?
00:30:49.000 They perish.
00:30:50.000 They do, and they are, unfortunately.
00:30:53.000 How could people follow you or support you?
00:30:55.000 www.cynthiagarrett.org.
00:30:58.000 Cynthia Garrett Garrett Ministries.
00:31:00.000 You have some very important things to say.
00:31:02.000 Thank you.
00:31:02.000 Yeah, it's very, especially in these confusing and turbulent times.
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00:32:12.000 We were just talking about the Apple TV film about your father and how they butchered the story.
00:32:17.000 I just find that so interesting because the narrative is a true one that your father had to go through incredible racial hurdles to accomplish success.
00:32:26.000 However, there is a factual component that they just revised that he was married to a white woman.
00:32:32.000 And I could just imagine the Apple TV screenwriters being like, yeah, that's an inconvenient fact.
00:32:37.000 It doesn't really fit the narrative.
00:32:39.000 Well, you know, it's interesting because the filmmaker is a guy named George Nolfi, who did the adjustment bureau, who was sued before for things like this, but whatever.
00:32:46.000 But in doing the film with my older half-brother, the big turning point in the whole thing, which is why Apple originally shelved the film, was because he sexually molested my sister and I. 0.78
00:33:00.000 So imagine you have this woman whose face is as white as yours. 0.92
00:33:03.000 Your father did?
00:33:04.000 Or the brother.
00:33:05.000 Oh, I'm sorry.
00:33:06.000 Okay, got it.
00:33:07.000 My mom took my father's son from his first marriage into our home for a few years when my sister and I were little girls at that point to help because he was having problems with his mom.
00:33:17.000 Imagine my mother's feelings.
00:33:19.000 Fast forward 30 years.
00:33:21.000 My father's not here.
00:33:22.000 My mother is the only person alive who can tell the story of what really happened because Melvin Belli, who defended my dad, is dead.
00:33:29.000 Joe Tunnehill, who also defended Jack Ruby, is now dead.
00:33:32.000 He defended my father.
00:33:33.000 I have letters from these men.
00:33:35.000 I have tons of it's it's a it's a crazy story Charlie because it I think about my mom looking at Nia Long, I think it is playing her and my mom's going, she's black.
00:33:47.000 Am I the inconvenient truth when I help you?
00:33:50.000 Well, the point is that they wouldn't want in a Hollywood film to show the protagonist that actually was treated well by white people and poorly.
00:33:59.000 Right.
00:33:59.000 Because that's life.
00:34:00.000 That was actually life in the 1950s and 60s.
00:34:02.000 And life is a big spag. 0.83
00:34:04.000 Complicated.
00:34:05.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:34:05.000 It's complicated.
00:34:06.000 It's true.
00:34:06.000 Race is not.
00:34:08.000 It wouldn't have made for the slam dunk story.
00:34:11.000 Exactly.
00:34:12.000 But actually, it would have been really interesting for the viewer, right?
00:34:14.000 It was so much more interesting, you would think, because especially today, what viewers need today is to see how complicated life actually is.
00:34:22.000 And how your mother fought for him, too.
00:34:23.000 My mother.
00:34:24.000 Against other white people.
00:34:25.000 My mother marched with King.
00:34:26.000 Yeah.
00:34:27.000 You know, I mean, totally.
00:34:28.000 Like, she's an amazing woman.
00:34:30.000 It's sick that they have to do that.
00:34:31.000 It really is.
00:34:32.000 That's such an important thing.
00:34:33.000 Anyway, I didn't mean to get sidetracked by that.
00:34:34.000 That's right.
00:34:35.000 A lot of young women are listening to this.
00:34:37.000 They say, I'll get married later in my life.
00:34:39.000 I'm going to put my career first.
00:34:41.000 You know, is there anything wrong with that?
00:34:44.000 What's your opinion on kind of that overdrive of career that seems the least married generation in history?
00:34:52.000 Yeah.
00:34:52.000 I mean, look, I understand it in a lot of ways.
00:34:55.000 I put my career first for many, many years.
00:34:58.000 I actually ended up, I mean, my first marriage was a disaster.
00:35:02.000 And so I use that to continue to put my career first.
00:35:06.000 And I'm married to an amazing man now.
00:35:08.000 I found him late in life at like 40.
00:35:10.000 Wow.
00:35:11.000 But, you know, I got to tell you, I understand what young women go through today, but it's really rooted in identity crisis.
00:35:22.000 You know, I think if I could say anything, and it's the thing I say to all young women, is that you're precious.
00:35:28.000 You're daughters of a king.
00:35:30.000 God loves you.
00:35:31.000 And your identity as written by him is that you're meant to be honored and loved.
00:35:39.000 And there's nothing wrong with needing or desiring to have a mate, a spouse, because when we're covered properly with love, it's a beautiful thing.
00:35:49.000 I don't understand why your generation is the least married generation.
00:35:54.000 I know why.
00:35:55.000 I mean, but I have my theories.
00:35:57.000 Well, when you decouple sex and marriage, then people think you can get pleasure without commitment, which is the hookup culture.
00:36:03.000 That's part of it.
00:36:04.000 But it's more than hookup.
00:36:05.000 It's people that are just dating for eight years because they feel as if I could do whatever I want to do without the commitment as well.
00:36:11.000 Right, right.
00:36:12.000 Which is a sister of the hookup culture.
00:36:14.000 Don't you think that has something to do with driving faith out of the dialogue?
00:36:19.000 Yeah, it's the least religious generation in history.
00:36:21.000 It's just scary.
00:36:22.000 Yeah.
00:36:23.000 It is.
00:36:23.000 It's terrifying.
00:36:24.000 And childless and all the others.
00:36:25.000 So we have to have you come speak at our Young Women's Leadership Summit.
00:36:28.000 I'd be on you.
00:36:29.000 In Dallas.
00:36:30.000 We have 3,000 young women that come every June. 0.99
00:36:32.000 Oh, conservative Christian women. 0.99
00:36:33.000 It's really special.
00:36:34.000 I do.
00:36:35.000 I speak at a lot of conferences, and I got to tell you, in South Africa, I'll go 40,000, 50,000 young women.
00:36:42.000 It's really powerful what you see sisterhood can do to really break down a lot of these.
00:36:48.000 Well, I'm a big believer in this.
00:36:49.000 I mean, we actually believe in the difference between men and women.
00:36:52.000 Yeah, there is a difference.
00:36:54.000 That's a thought crime to say in America.
00:36:55.000 You mean you don't want to arm wrestle me right now?
00:36:57.000 No, and I don't believe men can become pregnant. 0.88
00:37:00.000 I know that's a very difficult thing for people to hear.
00:37:02.000 Well, you ask people the apple.
00:37:04.000 They think they can.
00:37:05.000 They have the pregnant man emoji. 0.98
00:37:06.000 It's ridiculous. 0.87
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