00:00:50.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:34.000It's certainly futile in regard to, say, Russia or China or any other systems that may exist out there.
00:01:39.000But, you know, actually, I'm going to add something else to this.
00:01:44.000Right now, they've got the Commerce Department working on this, right?
00:01:47.000They solicited the public opinion so people can email in or message their complaints or their worries or what they think that can be done.
00:01:58.000But the fact that it's the Commerce Department, right as we see the Restrict Act moving through with a lot of really potentially damaging civil liberties violations, I think that's a real, real problem.
00:02:11.000So as far as regulation goes, I mean, I would love to see some sort of cap put on the power of artificial intelligence.
00:02:18.000And I'd love to see the implementation of data privacy and data ownership.
00:02:24.000But even then, I really do think that it would only slow things down in America.
00:02:29.000I think other countries would continue racing forward.
00:02:32.000Yeah, so Elon was a little bit, he wasn't as clear as I would have liked.
00:02:39.000He was a little opaque in his interview with Tucker.
00:02:41.000So Tucker said, okay, be specific, what exactly could be done?
00:02:44.000And Elon said, well, imagine a machine that could write very persuasively and know exactly how to communicate with the audience.
00:02:54.000He meant that a machine's going to run for political office or be able to communicate in massive channels in a way that is incredibly persuasive.
00:03:06.000So one of the AI doom scenarios is that an artificial superintelligence would come to the point that it would be indetectable to the normal human eye and that its goals would be either misaligned from human goals or its goals would include something that would be like on the level of kill all humans, right?
00:03:31.000Now, what he meant is that right now we have all of these chatbots swarming the internet and filling the internet full of content.
00:03:41.000And you have systems like Auto GPT, which are made to interact with the Internet.
00:03:47.000If you had enough of those, or if you had a system that was influential enough, that was sophisticated enough, I think he said convincing or persuasive, and it was misaligned, and human beings didn't realize they were being manipulated, either really important and influential people being manipulated, or millions, billions of people being manipulated all at once.
00:04:10.000And if it starts some sort of squabble, be they local or international, then that would be kind of the beginnings of an AI run amok and causing damage to human society.
00:04:23.000If I could just add one thing to that, though, Charlie, the solution, the proposed solution, Elon Musk wants basically mandatory verification to prove that you're a human to be on Twitter.
00:04:38.000So let's assume that Elon Musk is the cyborg savior that he's positioning himself as.
00:04:44.000You're still at the mercy of Elon Musk in that system.
00:04:48.000And Elon Musk now has, to some extent or another, your payment data and therefore your identity.
00:04:54.000And I think that anonymity on the internet, especially in an age of mass political correctness, anonymity on the internet is necessary for certain truths to be voiced by very, very important people who would be basically canceled, so to speak, from their position should they tell the truth under their own names.
00:05:45.000You know, in superintelligence, Nick Bostrom, Superintelligence is a 2014 book, very, very influential on Elon Musk and his way of thinking about this.
00:05:55.000But in superintelligence, Nick Bostrom talks about an artificial intelligence system that is in control of or has access to some critical infrastructure.
00:06:06.000And so it could be anything from a weapon system, right?
00:06:10.000It could be dropping airplanes out of the sky, shutting off power grids, or it could be a system that's in charge of a biolab.
00:06:19.000And so you've got biofoundries all over the place now.
00:06:21.000And these are basically automated bio labs.
00:06:25.000You've got robots that are doing most of the work in these labs to either do genome sequencing or active mutation for different sorts of kind of designer microbes.
00:06:37.000And so if a system like that were to start creating pathogens and release them, then obviously that's the end of the world for at least some portion of us, not all of us.
00:06:49.000Another thing that Nick Bostrom talks about too, though, is the possibility that a system would just simply manipulate human beings to do much the same thing.
00:06:57.000And I would also add that, I mean, I think that let's just forget about runaway artificial general intelligence or some kind of super intelligent system.
00:07:05.000Human beings have that power at their fingertips right now in high places.
00:07:10.000And another fear is that as these technologies are democratized, the possibility of a terrorist getting a hold of a really, really advanced artificial intelligence system or some kind of a similar system to what is out there now and doing the same sorts of things.
00:07:28.000And of course, now that you have machines that can code effectively, cyber attacks, mass cyber attacks become at least a much greater possibility.
00:07:37.000So I can just see this happening now because the government is a bunch of power-hungry maniacs that we don't almost do anything effectively right now because our elites are awful.
00:07:49.000They could use the anxiety about AI to actually create an even bigger government that would restrict our liberties and freedoms, and then we'd be even less freedom.
00:07:57.000I mean, is the option, is the best option then to do nothing and create our own and just game out all the doom scenarios similar to kind of how we used to live when we used to think Russia was going to launch nuclear weapons at us.
00:08:09.000I mean, is that now the prudent approach?
00:08:12.000It's like, let's go create our own patriotic AI-based AI, if you will, in the AI arms race and do no regulation because at least we'd have a fighting shot.
00:08:23.000I'm just trying to think rationally here.
00:08:26.000And I think it's definitely a rational argument.
00:08:29.000And I wish that I could make some sort of really coherent argument against it.
00:08:33.000The only argument I have against it is that it's much more of a philosophical argument that as these technologies progress, human freedom and human dignity and certainly privacy will tend to recede.
00:08:45.000And so these systems, as this AI arms race is ramping up, these systems are getting better and better.
00:08:52.000So maybe you can trust Elon Musk with our fate, right?
00:08:58.000I want to preserve humanity in the face of these evil artificial gods as I create a digital god myself.
00:09:05.000But really, I think the question has to be asked: what sort of humanity is Elon Musk talking about?
00:09:10.000And of course, a big part of his philosophical approach to how to deal with artificial intelligence is to link the brain directly to it.
00:09:19.000But one other thing about this tension, that anxiety that you're talking about, that is definitely rippling through the population, it will be seized upon by people in government to secure more power.
00:09:33.000And, you know, Nick Bostrom, the guy, the author of Superintelligence, he recommends a global government with mass wall-to-wall surveillance everywhere to stop technological progress outside of the hands of those that can be trusted, so to speak.
00:09:48.000And there are a number of others who make that same argument in that camp, right?
00:09:52.000Hugo DeGuerras, Ben Goertzel, they both made these arguments before.
00:09:56.000And so Elon Musk has come out, said, global government is not what I want.
00:10:00.000You ball Noah Harari has said the same.
00:10:58.000And they are much more fatalistic about this in some ways than I or certainly Steve.
00:11:05.000Steve Bannon comes out very strong on the point that we just got to stop this.
00:11:10.000We have to, if not smash up the machines, halt their progress.
00:11:16.000Polos and Harrington, I think, are more fatalistic.
00:11:18.000And what they describe, really, in essence, is a situation in which we in the West have a choice between two types of worldly power.
00:11:29.000The kind of borg that you see represented by people like Google or Facebook or Microsoft, the sort of corporate, politically correct Borg that is set up as a sort of police state over the rest of us, or an emperor model, which Musk represents.
00:11:46.000He's much more of a Caesar Augustus type character.
00:11:50.000And so it's really a choice, though, not between transhumanism or not transhumanism.
00:11:58.000It's the style of transhumanism because the future that Musk foresees and is actively crafting with his billions is one in which we do create a godlike artificial general intelligence system that is smarter than human beings.
00:12:16.000And you hope that it's benevolent towards human beings.
00:12:18.000And humans connect their minds, or maybe he would even say their souls to the extent the brain is equated with the soul in the scientific realm.
00:12:27.000You fuse your soul with that God through things like Neuralink.
00:12:31.000You have servant robots everywhere that do all the work.
00:12:35.000And you just assume that like human beings, and this is an example he used on Tucker, and a lot of transhumanists use this, that human beings would at least have the same kind, or just as human beings have the kindness and sentiment to keep chimpanzees and gorillas around, you hope you'll build a digital god that would have the same values and would keep us around.
00:12:58.000Ben Goertzl describes it as though we would be squirrels in the park.
00:13:03.000We would be squirrels in the park, and the digital gods would go on to develop themselves into something much grander.
00:13:12.000I mean, there's really no way to stop us from getting there, right?
00:13:15.000I mean, someone is going to create something that is so advanced beyond humanity.
00:13:19.000Or this is a theory that is less articulated, that there's the theory of technological plateau that you might get really good at word processing.
00:13:31.000This is a theory that's gaining some steam right now, where there is no guarantee the parabola continues.
00:14:17.000In the same way, we don't have flying cars and we don't have cold fusion that works well enough.
00:14:23.000We won't have anything like artificial general intelligence.
00:14:27.000I do think, though, that the never say never principle should at least hold for keeping the possibilities open for something like an AGI appearing.
00:14:37.000It doesn't have to be like they describe it.
00:14:39.000It just has to be powerful enough to give some worldly institution or power a leg up on its competitors.
00:14:47.000And very few people are actually talking about it.
00:14:50.000And so what do you think the next one year calendar, one minute remaining, will look like with artificial intelligence?
00:14:56.000Without a doubt, you're going to see the rollout of these chatbots all across different institutions from education to corporations.
00:15:03.000You're going to see more and more different areas of science advance because of the useful elements of these.
00:15:10.000And what I think the biggest thing you're going to see is the fusion of human beings to artificial intelligence through mechanisms like these devices we're speaking on now.
00:15:20.000Human AI relationships are forming as we speak.
00:15:24.000And so you're going to get two classes of society that are starting to become self-conscious, those who want the technological revolution and those who don't.
00:15:34.000We have an email here from someone with a PhD.
00:15:36.000You're going to have AI with PhD in data science, AI-driven, personalized propaganda that will control enough of the masses so the elites can achieve any policy at will.
00:15:46.000That's very, that's that's very that's exactly what Elon and you are warning about.
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00:17:00.000We're going to see the same way you saw a movement for organic food, grass-fed, fair trade, made in America.
00:17:08.000You're going to see news items, newscasts, like, for example, five years from now, the Charlie Kirk Show, produced by humans, for humans, by humans.
00:17:18.000It's going to be a real thing because they already have AI newscasters.
00:17:21.000They're going to have, I mean, not to mention the 40 to 50 million people that are going to lose their jobs in the next decade if this thing really ramps up.
00:18:16.000I heard, I think, but I think this poll has probably been outsourced to AI, at least by the way it has been presented, by the way it has been repeated across a certain ecosphere on the right in the last 24, 48 hours.
00:18:30.000You would think, I mean, it sounds very NPC.
00:18:33.000And so, you know, when anything's sus, I think you and I probably do the same thing, right?
00:18:38.000We think, well, if it sounds sus, probably is sus.
00:18:41.000And you only need to sort of take one, two, three different research actions to prove a thesis out.
00:18:47.000So yesterday morning, I wake up and I say to my team, I said, this poll seems sus to me.
00:18:52.000Let's start looking into it within about, I don't know, what is the poll?
00:19:56.000All reputable polling companies release the cross-tabulations that underlie the polling arguments that they are making, but this one didn't.
00:20:18.000Well, POS is public opinion strategies.
00:20:20.000And public opinion strategies, I quickly found out, has been around since the early 90s.
00:20:25.000They're based just down the road from Washington, D.C., in a little suburb called Alexandria in Virginia.
00:20:32.000And then we started to look into the staff.
00:20:34.000And all of the staff come from Romney campaign, Ryan campaign, Bush Jeb campaign, George Bush campaign, and their latest clients of this polling firm are American Crossroads, Karl Rove's organization.
00:20:52.000Then you start to look into, okay, all right.
00:21:06.000And you start to see pharmaceutical companies, Procter ⁇ Gamble, Pharma Lobby, American Medical Association, Bill Gates Foundation.
00:21:14.000And I start to think, oh my goodness, we've hit the mother load with this.
00:21:17.000And just before I think it can't get any worse, we find out that this POS polling has actually recently been submerged into this wider corporate apparatus in the last couple of years, a company called GP3.
00:21:32.000And the head of GP3, the CEO of GP3, he is actually somebody who worked directly for Golden Telecom.
00:21:43.000And Golden Telecom was owned by George Soros.
00:21:47.000So it's interesting to me that at the same time we've seen, and by the way, there are so many more angles to this story.
00:21:54.000Paul Ryan's brother and Paul Ryan himself now work for this company that is invested in this GP3.
00:22:02.000And you start to see that there are layers upon layers upon layers of anti-Trump, like hardline, committed, ideological and financial anti-Trump interests at play here.
00:22:15.000The funniest part about it, I suppose, to me is that even with all of that mentioned, they could only rig the poll to show that DeSantis was a couple of points ahead of Donald Trump.
00:22:26.000You can't, you know, because you can't be too clever with these things.
00:22:29.000Otherwise, people, you know, otherwise the whistles really blow on it, right?
00:22:34.000But they could only push those numbers a tiny, tiny percentage point over the top of where Trump was.
00:22:40.000I got to tell you, when it comes to these things, you know, I take the Christopher Hitchens view of polling.
00:23:29.000And I was saying to somebody earlier on Twitter, I was saying, look, I will report into this stuff because it's important for people to understand where the information is coming from.
00:23:39.000This is not Raheem Kassam trying to destroy Ron DeSantis.
00:23:57.000This is the people that are sort of surrounding Ron DeSantis right now, using Ron DeSantis as their mechanism to get their ideology over the line.
00:24:06.000And all of those people have the same thing in common.
00:24:09.000They are frothing at the mouth, never Trumpers.
00:25:17.000They believe that if you throw enough money at it, if you throw enough fake polls at it, if you throw enough misdirection at it, then support for Trump will wane.
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00:28:54.000Lots of emails on artificial intelligence.
00:28:58.000People say, Charlie, you're forgetting the point.
00:29:01.000The so-called AI tech emperor that could get in control is still in a machine or on the internet.
00:29:06.000If things ever get bad, actual humans could go on and smash the hardware and disconnect the wires.
00:29:11.000Humans would still maintain ultimate control in the physical realm.
00:29:15.000You know, that would actually be a smart solution, right?
00:29:17.000That would be a smart regulation if our leaders were in charge.
00:29:19.000There should be a kill switch mandatory.
00:29:21.000There needs to be a plug that could be pulled.
00:29:24.000Again, if we actually lived in a sane country, which we don't, with leaders that actually cared about issues that matter, which we don't, wouldn't a kill switch be rational?
00:29:32.000Is there a kill switch right now of the artificial intelligence at Google?
00:29:58.000We're going to get into the dialogue with the thug that runs the Department of Education.
00:30:03.000Penguin, which is a publisher, has announced they're making major revisions to 1984.
00:30:13.000Quote, the novel requires updating in line with progressive sensibilities, said a consultant, for anti-exclusionary minds, a group engaged by Penguin to moderate Orwell's critique of totalitarianism.
00:30:28.000For those of you that have ever read 1984, the irony is rich here.
00:32:04.000I think that's almost secondary to the important role that I have as Secretary of Education.
00:32:08.000What does HHS say the definition of a woman is?
00:32:12.000I lead the Department of Education, and my job is to make sure that all students have access to public education, which includes co-curricular activities.
00:32:30.000They get overheated when you ask them a very simple question: what is a woman?
00:32:32.000Because they know that if they actually answered the question, it would either upset the trans lobby or upset one of their core constituencies.
00:32:41.000They cannot answer a question of what is a woman.
00:32:44.000Isn't it amazing all these godless, miserable, upper-middle-class, secular, white liberals that go around and be like, yeah, I vote for Democrats for women's rights.
00:34:48.000You guys can email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:34:50.000How do we stop it before it takes us off?
00:34:53.000I asked our friend here, any good news?
00:34:55.000He said, well, potentially, it can help us be a hedge against tyranny if it enables humans to parse information faster and hence forces governments to be transparent.