The Charlie Kirk Show - Ray Epps Files Suit...and Gets Arrested? with Darren Beattie and Nick Ayers

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Tanner Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:01.000 Darren Beattie joins us and Nick Ayers joins us.

00:00:04.000 Nick Ayers has a big announcement from Public Square in everylife.com.

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00:00:31.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:14.000 Welcome to the program, Nick Ayers.

00:01:15.000 Nick Ayers is a great American.

00:01:17.000 I've known Nick for years, and we've done a lot of things together.

00:01:21.000 And Nick has a really exciting announcement, a huge announcement with our friends at Public Square, publicsq.com, being a new father and spending the GDP of Kenya on diapers.

00:01:33.000 I totally understand that this is a necessary announcement to no longer fund the woke weasels that run most of the diaper companies.

00:01:41.000 Nick Ayers, what is going on?

00:01:43.000 Charlie, it's always great to be with you.

00:01:45.000 Congratulations on all you're doing.

00:01:47.000 And we have known each other for a decade now.

00:01:50.000 And I'm proud of how you fought the good fight and how you've managed to go about your business and the difference you're making.

00:01:56.000 And yeah, today's an exciting day.

00:01:58.000 You know, the most important thing in my life outside of my faith in Christ that happened in high school is when Jamie and I had a miraculous pregnancy.

00:02:08.000 And Charlie, I think you know a little bit about our story, but we were promised that it was medically impossible that we would never have our own children.

00:02:15.000 And a few years later, truly had a miracle in every respect.

00:02:22.000 And we found out that she was pregnant with three babies.

00:02:26.000 And very quickly after that, we were also then assured that one of them, referred to as Baby C, had a 0% chance of life.

00:02:36.000 And the doctors strongly encouraged us, not only very early in the pregnancy, at seven and eight weeks, but as late as six months into the pregnancy, they pleaded and begged with us to terminate Baby C because they said Baby C had a 0% chance of life and it would cost us the opportunity to have healthy twins.

00:03:00.000 And Jamie and I, in a way that only can be attributed to our faith, had a peace that surpassed all understanding.

00:03:08.000 And we just, we felt like we knew we were not the author or the creator of life.

00:03:13.000 This was not our decision to make.

00:03:15.000 And we trusted the Lord with any outcome.

00:03:18.000 And he blessed us beyond, as he usually does, what we deserve and what we could have ever imagined.

00:03:24.000 And so those three children, for me, are living stones of the sovereignty of God and how he honors obedience.

00:03:32.000 And I cannot think of any more mission critical, especially where our nation is today, than to give parents, grandparents, and people who believe what you and I believe an opportunity to align their values with a company that cares that much about the innocence of every life.

00:03:50.000 And that's exactly why we launched Every Life this morning was to give every baby a chance to say that we cherish and protect and celebrate every baby, irrespective of race, of gender, that we want them all to have an opportunity.

00:04:06.000 And you would think, Charlie, that that would be something that's like, well, yeah, that's great.

00:04:10.000 That's what every diaper company should do.

00:04:14.000 But your listeners, your viewers won't be surprised to learn that, in fact, it's not.

00:04:19.000 There are a litany of, you know, every household diaper brand name that you and I could rattle off are very public about and proud of the fact that some support their employees by matching their donations to Planned Parenthood, or they pay for them to travel and have abortions.

00:04:36.000 And look, the great thing about our country is that we're free.

00:04:41.000 People are free to make their own decisions and determinations.

00:04:45.000 I think that's crazy for especially a diaper company.

00:04:49.000 And it's exactly why we launched Every Life this morning.

00:04:53.000 So, for example, there is a company, Cordier or something like that, Cordier, I don't know how to pronounce it.

00:05:01.000 Apparently, you know, we buy diapers from them a lot.

00:05:05.000 We get these like big shipments of them, but apparently they are like pro-abortion.

00:05:12.000 I mean, how could I just hope everyone understands these for every parent out there that every major diaper company out there is pro-abortion, pro-abortion.

00:05:12.000 It's amazing.

00:05:24.000 And so you would think that if you're in the diaper business, you would want more babies.

00:05:29.000 Like of all the businesses where you would want more children, Procter Gamble said its new travel policy will cover workers who can't access care from a provider to terminate their pregnancy and kill their baby.

00:05:42.000 The conglomerate, which makes household products such as Pampers and Tide, employs 26,000 people in the United States and is based in Ohio, which has an abortion ban.

00:05:51.000 And so this is extraordinary to me.

00:05:53.000 It's everylife.com.

00:05:55.000 My wife and I were already placed our order.

00:05:57.000 You guys should too.

00:05:58.000 Everylife.com.

00:06:00.000 I want to play a clip here.

00:06:01.000 Let's play Cut 87.

00:06:04.000 While so many companies are promoting what is wrong, we choose to celebrate what is right.

00:06:13.000 Life.

00:06:17.000 Every miracle from God.

00:06:20.000 Boy and girl.

00:06:22.000 Black, tan, and white.

00:06:26.000 Planned and unplanned.

00:06:32.000 Gifted and special.

00:06:37.000 Every one of them is celebrated here.

00:06:42.000 Every life.

00:06:44.000 We're changing diapers changes lives.

00:06:49.000 It's so simple.

00:06:50.000 If you're a mother out there, if you're buying diapers and you've got to go to Every Life.

00:06:55.000 Otherwise, you are funding pro-abortion companies with your diaper purchases.

00:07:00.000 Nick Airs.

00:07:01.000 Charlie, what I would tell you about the product, you know, the mission almost makes me tear up.

00:07:08.000 I've gotten very soft as a father.

00:07:11.000 This is a very emotional and joyful subject for me.

00:07:16.000 While I know our values are excellence, you know, we celebrate life.

00:07:20.000 We stand with integrity.

00:07:22.000 We're going to champion parenthood.

00:07:23.000 And this company is rooted in faith.

00:07:25.000 I would put our values and our mission and our vision, which is all available on the website, up against any company in the world.

00:07:32.000 I'm so proud of them and I'm so excited about it.

00:07:35.000 But sometimes you and I have seen companies that are grounded in some wonderful things have cut corners when it comes to the delivery or the excellence of the product.

00:07:44.000 And what your listeners, hopefully our future customers have our commitment on is that there were no corners cut.

00:07:52.000 This is a premium diaper where we eliminated the plastics and the toxins and the chemicals that moms especially rightly really care about, things that affect or could affect the development of the baby's brain and body.

00:08:05.000 All of that was eliminated.

00:08:06.000 This is a premium diaper at an affordable price.

00:08:10.000 You can order it directly from EveryLife.com, Charlie.

00:08:13.000 And I think you all have a promo code.

00:08:15.000 We're offering a big discount to your listeners, and then we ship it.

00:08:19.000 Any order over $50 or ship directly to your customer's door.

00:08:23.000 And you're exactly right.

00:08:24.000 Look, the conviction I had after leaving the White House was a simple one.

00:08:29.000 Winning elections every two or four years is not enough.

00:08:34.000 You know, all of us are participating in the electoral cycle, and we're voting.

00:08:39.000 That's great.

00:08:40.000 That's one day every two years or one day every four years.

00:08:45.000 So the question becomes, what are we doing with all of our other time?

00:08:49.000 Look, I'm a happy person.

00:08:51.000 I'm full of joy.

00:08:52.000 I love my family.

00:08:53.000 I love this nation.

00:08:55.000 I love life.

00:08:56.000 I don't want to go around and be downtrodden about the future of the company.

00:09:00.000 And we could focus on all the negative things.

00:09:03.000 And there's some really dark things.

00:09:05.000 We want people to have products and companies and causes that bring joy and hope and unity.

00:09:12.000 And that's exactly what Every Life sets out to do, which brings me to this point.

00:09:16.000 Voting is not enough.

00:09:18.000 You should do that.

00:09:19.000 But every time you swipe your card, every time you pay with your phone or hand somebody a dollar bill in this economy, based on ESG and DEI and what's going on in corporate boardrooms, you're voting with your dollars, whether you like it or not.

00:09:36.000 So if you're not researching the companies, like you just went through a lot of research on Coterie and Procter ⁇ Gamble and Unilever and that's just publicly available information.

00:09:46.000 If consumers who share our values are not wising up and researching, who am I sharing my hard-earned capital or hard-earned money with?

00:09:55.000 Because these companies, they are aggressively using their profits for social engineering, politics, and things way outside what built a lot of these great companies, which were Judeo-Christian values, American values, and excellence.

00:10:11.000 They're far more concerned with appeasing the CPP and how to become a global company.

00:10:17.000 And they have detached themselves from the values that built this country.

00:10:22.000 And so the opportunity that we have with Every Life and companies like this is to vote every day with our dollar.

00:10:31.000 Vote with your card, vote with your feet.

00:10:33.000 Every single day is a test.

00:10:35.000 We cannot afford to just not care.

00:10:38.000 It can't happen because the bad guys care more than we do right now.

00:10:41.000 They diabolically care.

00:10:43.000 If you don't care, you are collaborating in your slow motion destruction.

00:10:47.000 PublicSQ.com is the mothership.

00:10:50.000 Everylife.com is where you go.

00:10:52.000 Promo code Charlie10.

00:10:54.000 I want everybody in the audience to buy diapers for either your, if you need them in the immediate or send them to your daughter who has a kid.

00:11:02.000 Send them to your granddaughter that has a kid. 0.98

00:11:04.000 Everylife.com and say enough funding these pro-abortion diaper companies.

00:11:09.000 I mean, could you think of something sicker?

00:11:11.000 Everylife.com is a terrific website.

00:11:15.000 You guys can check it out.

00:11:16.000 Clean premium diapers for every miracle.

00:11:19.000 And Nick is not kidding.

00:11:20.000 This is a high-quality product.

00:11:22.000 This is not some sort of toxin-filled stuff.

00:11:24.000 It is the best stuff.

00:11:25.000 It's really good.

00:11:27.000 So it's everylife.com.

00:11:28.000 So, hey, Nick, can you just build out even further the big picture vision, the telos of public square to be the navigational tool, to be the place where we can shop our values?

00:11:42.000 There's 75 to 80 million people that we know are on the center right that, let's just say, vote Republican, and they are not represented at all in corporate America.

00:11:52.000 In fact, they are antagonized daily.

00:11:55.000 Talk about the market opportunity and how publicsq.com seeks to solve that.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, what Michael Seifert and the team at Public Square has built, Charlie, as you know, is absolutely amazing.

00:12:08.000 It's why I invested in the company last year.

00:12:10.000 It's how they've achieved supernatural growth in the last year, jumping to over 1.1 million people on the platform, over 55,000 businesses on the platform.

00:12:21.000 And as we thought about launching Every Life, you know, the question was really who better in the world to co-found this company with than Public Square, which is the wholly owned subsidiary.

00:12:33.000 So just as you mentioned, Unilever or excuse me, Kimberly Clark and Procter Gamble own Pampers and Huggies.

00:12:40.000 We have the benefit of being wholly owned by Public Square, which means our values, our mission, our vision for life, and the desire to protect every innocent child from above and consider them all a miracle from God.

00:12:52.000 That'll never be changed in a boardroom.

00:12:55.000 And yet, Public Square is on a rocket ship trajectory of its own.

00:12:58.000 Next week, they'll be listed on the New York Stock Exchange.

00:13:02.000 Michael, Omid, myself, many other early investors in the company will ring the opening bell of the stock exchange next Tuesday morning, which is a sign of just the incredible momentum Public Square has around it.

00:13:16.000 Look, corporate boardrooms have written off half the country who share our values, who love this country and who love capitalism.

00:13:26.000 That creates a huge opportunity for a platform like Public Square to create a market of commerce of like-minded people so that if you believe what you believe, Charlie, if you believe what I believe, we can go to Public Square to the app or publicsq.com and find 55,000 plus other businesses like EveryLife.

00:13:49.000 And the miracle of EveryLife, and there are many of them, is that we didn't guess about creating this business.

00:13:56.000 We knew there was a demand.

00:13:57.000 We knew there was a need, especially in the backlash of Target.

00:14:01.000 Michael could see that there were many, many searches of usually moms out there looking for alternatives to Hello Bellow, Honest, Pampers, and Huggies.

00:14:13.000 They did not want to shop at retail stores like Target where they were buying the diapers.

00:14:18.000 And so we know that there are, you know, 75 to 100 million plus Americans who share these values and who are looking for companies that will affirm that while delivering excellent products at fair prices.

00:14:32.000 And that's exactly what EveryLife will do.

00:14:35.000 Everylife.com.

00:14:36.000 Nick Ayres, you're doing a wonderful job.

00:14:38.000 Michael Seifert is doing a great job.

00:14:40.000 Public Square is going to have a big presence here.

00:14:42.000 I'm going to reiterate the call to action.

00:14:45.000 If you're a mom, if you're a grandma, if you are part of a pro-life clinic, a church, diapers are an annuity.

00:14:53.000 And the big uglies, Procter Gamble and all these people, they are funding abortions while also selling diapers.

00:15:00.000 It's unsustainable.

00:15:01.000 Got to stop it.

00:15:02.000 Promo code Charlie10.

00:15:03.000 Let's have everybody in the audience go to everylife.com, promo code Charlie10.

00:15:08.000 Nick, do you have a final thought?

00:15:09.000 One minute remaining?

00:15:10.000 Yeah, I have one final thought, which is while these companies are giving to organizations and causes that destroy innocent life, I want to be clear about something.

00:15:19.000 Look, we want to run a great business and we will do that.

00:15:22.000 But we're also going to be charitable and we're going to put our money where our mouth is.

00:15:26.000 And so we are already proud to support, and that support's only going to grow as a business grows.

00:15:31.000 Incredible organizations like what Lila Rose is doing at Live Action, incredible organizations like Save the Storks.

00:15:38.000 There's an unbelievable nonprofit in just north of Atlanta, Georgia, called Faithbridge that recruits and trains godly foster parents to take in the neediest and most vulnerable children.

00:15:50.000 EveryLife wants to provide nonprofits like that with premium diapers at no cost.

00:15:56.000 So every time people buy from us, not only are they going to get an excellent product in return, they're going to empower us to share those products with the brave mothers out there who have chosen life.

00:16:07.000 Nick Ayers, everybody, everylife.com promo code Charlie10.

00:16:10.000 Call to action.

00:16:11.000 Let's go.

00:16:12.000 Let's sell them out.

00:16:13.000 Let's sell them out of everylife.com.

00:16:13.000 Okay.

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00:16:16.000 Nick, thank you so much.

00:16:17.000 No, thank you, Charlie.

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00:17:25.000 Joining us now is Darren Beattie.

00:17:27.000 There's a new lawsuit that's been filed.

00:17:29.000 Ray Epps has now filed a lawsuit against Fox News saying that his life is ruined and damaged because Tucker Carlson alluded to the fact that he might have been a federal agent, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly.

00:17:42.000 He says, I'm not a federal agent.

00:17:44.000 And in his lawsuit, he says, by the way, I'm going to get arrested soon by the Department of Justice because of Tucker Carlson.

00:17:50.000 Because a journalist did his job and exposed that I was in the capital.

00:17:52.000 I shouldn't have been there.

00:17:53.000 It is one of the weakest, strangest lawsuits that I have ever seen.

00:17:57.000 I believe it is composed with the intent to try to scare Fox into settling into another Dominion-style settlement.

00:18:06.000 Darren Beattie from Revolver.news joins us.

00:18:08.000 Darren, your reaction to the Ray Epps lawsuit and walk our audience through it.

00:18:12.000 Great to be here, Charlie.

00:18:14.000 And yes, there are many important dimensions to this case.

00:18:17.000 We did a full treatment of it, so people should go to Revolver.news and read the definitive analysis of this development.

00:18:23.000 There are a couple of things I should say off the bat.

00:18:26.000 For one, technically speaking, this is a lawsuit from Ray Epps, his lawyers, against Fox News.

00:18:35.000 Although I am named extensively in the complaint, including as the chief purveyor, they basically blame me for the Epps story, which I suppose is correct.

00:18:44.000 And the Epps story does come from Revolver News.

00:18:47.000 So they're correct, at least as far as that.

00:18:51.000 And of course, Tucker is prominently featured.

00:18:53.000 Tucker himself and myself and Revolver News, we are not defendants in this complaint.

00:18:58.000 It is technically now just a complaint against Fox News, which is kind of ironic.

00:19:04.000 You mentioned the possibility that Fox would settle.

00:19:08.000 I think it is overwhelmingly likely that Fox News will settle.

00:19:14.000 We saw that Fox was a soft target with Dominion.

00:19:17.000 They settled unnecessarily for an insane amount, close to a billion dollars.

00:19:21.000 They didn't have to, by the way.

00:19:23.000 They just chose to do that.

00:19:25.000 So I think Epps' lawyers decided Fox is going to be a soft target and want to settle.

00:19:29.000 And when you think about it from Fox's standpoint, weirdly enough, it is kind of in their interest to settle because by doing so, they can reinforce the narrative that Tucker was indeed a liability for them and that they made the right decision in firing.

00:19:47.000 So there's that dimension.

00:19:48.000 So if Fox were to settle, it would serve Fox's interests in that respect.

00:19:53.000 It would also serve the regime's interests because the regime janitors in the media could report incorrectly, but they could report on the basis of a settlement that the EPS reporting of Revolver News that Tucker amplified, that this has been discredited in court.

00:20:14.000 And of course, the chilling effect is very real.

00:20:16.000 I already know firsthand of at least one major conservative media institution, not Fox, that has decided not to report on Epps at all due to fear of a lawsuit.

00:20:30.000 So a settlement in Fox's case would simply intensify the chilling effect.

00:20:36.000 So that's sort of contextually something important to put out there.

00:20:40.000 Then there's the substance of the case, which is ridiculous.

00:20:44.000 And in fact, we're working on a follow-up piece that should be out either this evening or tomorrow morning, which will absolutely eviscerate the legal foundations of this claim as a matter of defamation law. 0.62

00:20:58.000 It's ridiculous. 0.52

00:21:00.000 There's no defamation coming from Tucker. 0.97

00:21:02.000 There's no defamation coming from Revolver News.

00:21:05.000 All of the reporting was absolutely legitimate.

00:21:08.000 And, you know, if you can't ask questions about this guy, Ray Epps, go and read the original Revolver.news piece and watch the video and then tell yourself this is the only January 6th participant that the DOJ has been protecting for over two and a half years,

00:21:26.000 that the New York Times writes a fully dedicated tough piece on that's continued to this more recent coverage, that 60 Minutes did a sympathy segment on where they wouldn't even have me on to offer the opposing viewpoint.

00:21:40.000 They led me on.

00:21:42.000 The producer said, oh, yeah, we're going to have you on, you have you on.

00:21:45.000 And then I guess they realized even with their splice and dice, even with their editorial tactics, it would be too dangerous to have me on because the case against him is so overwhelming.

00:21:57.000 So he's got a 60 minutes sympathy piece.

00:22:02.000 And of course, he's the only January 6th participant that Adam Kinsinger, a man who spends a lot of the day on all fours and who's never met a January 6th participant he didn't want to see in jail for over 50 years.

00:22:14.000 Epps is the only January 6th guy that Adam Kinsinger will defend.

00:22:18.000 And to add to the list of unusual and perhaps suspicious bedfellows for Epps, let's look at the legal representation for Epps in this defamation tour that he's doing.

00:22:31.000 He is represented by none other than Michael Cater, who is an individual who comes from deep within the bowels of the Democrat establishment's nexus with the national security state.

00:22:44.000 He's an employee of the notorious Democrat hatchet man David Brock.

00:22:50.000 He is a former employee of the notorious and disgraced law firm Perkins Coi, that was basically the laboratory out of which the whole Russia hoax and steel dossier was concocted.

00:23:04.000 And so the political motivations for these individuals clear.

00:23:09.000 They want to take out Tucker and they want to take out me.

00:23:13.000 But the first step will be Fox News and get the settlement and then they'll decide whether it's worthwhile going after me and Tucker.

00:23:21.000 But it's obviously an evolving story and it's one of great interest.

00:23:26.000 And I mean, what more example do you need of the level of sensitivity that Gray Epps introduces for the regime?

00:23:37.000 They are really pulling out all of the stuffs to prevent anyone from talking about EPS and from amplifying the coverage on EPS that Revolver.news and Tucker Carlson have already done.

00:23:49.000 So, Darren, help me understand how could it be defamation to say that someone might work for the federal government.

00:24:00.000 That's not like calling somebody a Nazi or a rapist.

00:24:04.000 His claim that I'm not a Fed since you could see I'm getting arrested and therefore pay me money because my life is ruined because you said I might be on federal government payroll.

00:24:19.000 Help me understand this claim, Darren.

00:24:21.000 Well, as I said, we're working on the definitive takedown of Epps's claim from a legal perspective.

00:24:21.000 Right.

00:24:27.000 It gets into some of the intricacies of defamation law, which are very interesting.

00:24:32.000 And the questions you raise are very interesting and legitimate.

00:24:37.000 The idea of defamation is reputational damage.

00:24:41.000 That's the underlying principle of defamation.

00:24:44.000 And there's a principle called defamation per se, which means it's the nature of the alleged libel is so severe that it's in a special category where you don't even have to prove damages.

00:24:58.000 There's no claim of defamation per se here.

00:25:01.000 Even, you know, you and I, anyone who, you know, tries to defend America has been called a Nazi white supremacist, everything.

00:25:09.000 Unfortunately, those accusations, which really do incur severe reputational damage in modern United States, those are not considered defamation per se, which I think they should be, but they're not.

00:25:23.000 And so they're not claiming defamation per se in the case of these claims that he may have been a federal agent or working on behalf of a third party and so forth.

00:25:32.000 And so they have to claim damages as well and also claim intentional malice because he's a public figure.

00:25:42.000 So they have to meet all of those standards.

00:25:44.000 But back to your original question, which gets to the core of their claim here, is that is it reputationally worse for Epp to be what it seems from the video that he is an active participant in what the regime calls an insurrection and one of the worst terrorist attacks in American history, domestic terror attacks, in American history?

00:26:09.000 Is that reputationally worse for him than saying, oh, he was actually working on behalf of the government in some capacity?

00:26:17.000 Seems at the very least that reputationally he'd be worse off to be the criminal domestic extremist rather than somebody working with some kind of imprimater from the government.

00:26:30.000 So it's kind of an interesting question in that respect.

00:26:34.000 And like I said, it's a question that we will address comprehensively in a forthcoming piece that gets into the weeds of the legal question, which is actually very fascinating.

00:26:45.000 I wish we had more time.

00:26:46.000 Everyone, check out Revolver.news.

00:26:48.000 Darren, you're doing a wonderful job.

00:26:49.000 And if the bad guys try to sue you or whatever, we have your back 100%.

00:26:53.000 And I know the millions of people in our audience do as well.

00:26:57.000 Darren, you've done great work and you're asking the right questions and you're getting closer to the truth.

00:27:01.000 Darren, great job.

00:27:02.000 Thanks so much.

00:27:03.000 Thank you.

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00:28:11.000 Yesterday, I didn't get a chance to dive into this comprehensively with the Andrew Tate stuff.

00:28:17.000 I was saying, and we had the interview with Paul Manafort, so I was starting and stopping and starting and stopping.

00:28:21.000 So Andrew Tate is one of the most hated men in the world.

00:28:26.000 We're supposed to hate him. 1.00

00:28:28.000 I don't know if he did rape a woman. 0.99

00:28:33.000 I doubt it.

00:28:34.000 I don't know if he trafficked people.

00:28:36.000 I doubt it.

00:28:38.000 But that's what he's under accusations of.

00:28:40.000 I'm told that he ran a cam girl business.

00:28:42.000 I don't like that, obviously.

00:28:44.000 But let's put that in its own bucket and just listen to what he says because it's not as if, I mean, sex traffickers and human traffickers unfortunately kind of don't really get much scrutiny in the media.

00:28:56.000 So why are we supposed to hate him?

00:28:58.000 And none of those things are why he's infamous nationwide, worldwide.

00:29:01.000 We have plenty of human traffickers and smugglers.

00:29:03.000 We had Epstein gallivanting around America for 30 years.

00:29:07.000 And many of them we actually treat as heroes.

00:29:09.000 So that's not the issue.

00:29:10.000 And I'm not defending it.

00:29:11.000 Let's just be honest.

00:29:12.000 Andrew Tate is hated because he's an incredibly articulate, forceful defender of traditional masculinity.

00:29:22.000 So Andrew Tate talks about things you're not supposed to talk about, which is improving your life, becoming a strong man, learning how to say no to temptations and pleasures and impulses.

00:29:34.000 Andrew Tate, in his own words, I listened to the whole thing and I didn't quite understand the Andrew Tate phenomenon beforehand.

00:29:42.000 And then I was like, oh, now I get it.

00:29:46.000 Now I see why you hate him.

00:29:48.000 Play cut 57. 0.99

00:29:50.000 When you want to conquer a society, you kill the military-age males. 0.99

00:29:53.000 That's what you do. 0.97

00:29:54.000 That's the first thing they've ever done. 0.99

00:29:55.000 They walk in and all the men have to have their throats cut. 1.00

00:29:58.000 They can't perhaps do that, but they can certainly cut your balls off. 1.00

00:30:01.000 And then you can't resist. 0.97

00:30:03.000 And I think there's certainly a movement to ensure that there's very little resistance left inside of the number one demographic which is required to resist oppression, which are military-age males.

00:30:14.000 And they don't want those kind of people waking up with any kind of self-respect or standards or to say, no, I don't accept this.

00:30:20.000 I do not need a ninth injection.

00:30:22.000 They don't want that.

00:30:23.000 They want you to sit and say, hmm, I don't need it, but the news said so.

00:30:28.000 This is profound what Andrew Tate is saying.

00:30:31.000 What Andrew Tate is saying is that we are currently being colonized.

00:30:36.000 It's 100% correct, that we are being taken over.

00:30:40.000 And the group that is most disagreeable are testosterone-filled young men of military age.

00:30:48.000 Isn't it interesting that those are the people that they had to kick out of the military?

00:30:51.000 The people that said, I do not want to take the mRNA gene altering vaccine, kick them out.

00:30:55.000 Alpha men are a threat to the regime, and Andrew Tate is pinpointing it.

00:31:00.000 Andrew Tate received multi-institutional social media blacklisting and targeting overnight.

00:31:10.000 Every institution came together and gave him like the Donald Trump Alex Jones treatment.

00:31:16.000 We have obese trans drag queen jobs coming into the military. 1.00

00:31:23.000 We are funding transgender surgeries in the military. 0.98

00:31:28.000 And the person we're supposed to get really angry about is Andrew Tate.

00:31:34.000 I'm not an apologist for Andrew Tate.

00:31:37.000 I don't know everything he's ever said.

00:31:40.000 He has some views on depression that I certainly don't agree with.

00:31:44.000 I think he actually makes a really good point here, which is this, Play Cut 60, which is it's fashionable to be depressed.

00:31:52.000 I'm not saying that people become depressed because it's fashionable.

00:31:54.000 I actually don't believe that.

00:31:56.000 But it is acceptable to say you're depressed.

00:31:59.000 What's unacceptable is say I'm joyful, excited, I say no to pleasure, and I have purpose in my life.

00:32:05.000 Which one of those actually comes under criticism in the media?

00:32:08.000 Being happy or being depressed?

00:32:10.000 It's almost what they want you to be.

00:32:12.000 Play cut 60.

00:32:13.000 And the reason they don't like me attacking that is because depression is a fantastic way to subdue a population.

00:32:19.000 Right?

00:32:20.000 If everybody's depressed, it's hard to have a revolution.

00:32:22.000 You're depressed.

00:32:23.000 Depression's a fantastic tool of population control. 1.00

00:32:26.000 They have no problem with you being depressed.

00:32:28.000 They have a problem with you being the opposite, principled and energetic.

00:32:32.000 No, you don't want principled, energetic people.

00:32:34.000 That's a problem.

00:32:34.000 A bunch of depressed people?

00:32:36.000 Easy.

00:32:36.000 If you had to invade a country, would you rather the opposing army be principled and energetic or depressed?

00:32:43.000 I'll tell you, I would not want to be invaded by a cheerful army.

00:32:46.000 Absolutely, Gary.

00:32:47.000 They're having too much fun.

00:32:49.000 People have become wound collectors. 0.82

00:32:52.000 Valorizing, flamboyant helplessness, passive, aggressive loserdom.

00:33:00.000 They hate Andrew Tate because he was reaching hundreds of millions, billions of people on a message of self-sovereignty, masculinity, and victor, not victimhood culture.

00:33:10.000 And that's why they had to de-platform him and take him out and accuse him of a sex crime, whether or not he committed or not.

00:33:16.000 Doesn't matter.

00:33:17.000 They had to smear him.

00:33:18.000 He was far too effective.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - July 13, 2023

Ray Epps Files Suit...and Gets Arrested? with Darren Beattie and Nick Ayers

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