The Charlie Kirk Show - January 06, 2022


Ray Epps, Pipe Bombs, and Unpacking the "Insurrection" with Darren Beattie


Episode Stats


Length

40 minutes

Words per minute

168.13489

Word count

6,731

Sentence count

489

Harmful content

Misogyny

3

sentences flagged

Toxicity

1

sentences flagged

Hate speech

10

sentences flagged


Summary

Summaries generated with gmurro/bart-large-finetuned-filtered-spotify-podcast-summ .

On this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie Kirk is joined by Darren Beattie of Revolver News to discuss the events that took place on the streets of New York City on the morning of January 6th, 2019.

Transcript

Transcripts from "The Charlie Kirk Show" are sourced from the Knowledge Fight Interactive Search Tool. Explore them interactively here.
Misogyny classifications generated with MilaNLProc/bert-base-uncased-ear-misogyny .
Toxicity classifications generated with s-nlp/roberta_toxicity_classifier .
Hate speech classifications generated with facebook/roberta-hate-speech-dynabench-r4-target .
00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today on the Charlie Kirk show, Darren Beattie from Revolver.news goes to the truth of January 6th.
00:00:06.000 Rayeps, who is he?
00:00:07.000 If you don't know that name, you should get to know.
00:00:10.000 It really opens a lot of eyes.
00:00:11.000 If you want to support our show, go to charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:00:14.000 We're one of the few podcasts willing to take on issues like this, also with vaccines and everything else.
00:00:18.000 We're willing to go where it matters, regardless of corporate pressure or the potential silencing campaign of Silicon Valley.
00:00:24.000 That means something to you, please consider supporting us at charliekirk.com/slash support.
00:00:28.000 If you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, start a high school or college chapter today, go to tpusa.com.
00:00:34.000 Darren Beattie is here.
00:00:35.000 Buckle up. 0.96
00:00:36.000 Here we go.
00:00:37.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:39.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:41.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:44.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:48.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:49.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:50.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:00:51.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created.
00:00:57.000 Turning point USA.
00:00:58.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:07.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:10.000 Brought to you by the Loan Experts I Trust, Andrew and Todd at Sierra Pacific Mortgage at andrewandTodd.com.
00:01:18.000 I just want to play some of this tape here, and I want to also make our position clear.
00:01:21.000 I've said this earlier, and I'm going to repeat it for all the scum that watch our show, Media Matters.
00:01:28.000 I don't like what happened on January 6th in regards to the property destruction. 0.86
00:01:32.000 Anyone that lays a hand on a police officer should serve a prison sentence, period, hard stop.
00:01:38.000 It's that simple.
00:01:39.000 But I believe in the Equal Protection Clause of the U.S. Constitution, and I believe that disproportionately and intentionally using the criminal justice system and security apparatus to go after political opponents, all the while you allowed Floyd Palooza to basically unfold is bad for our country.
00:01:56.000 It's bad for our republic, not a democracy.
00:02:00.000 And we were denouncing what happened on air right now, right here, right as it happened.
00:02:06.000 In fact, we got some hate for that.
00:02:08.000 Remember, Connor?
00:02:09.000 We got hate from some of our listeners as we were denouncing it in regards to what was happening.
00:02:15.000 Okay, AOC, never to miss an opportunity to embellish and indulge in hyperbole, said that half of the Congress could have died.
00:02:25.000 Cut 77.
00:02:28.000 If this was the journey that my life was taking, that I felt that things were going to be okay and that, you know, I had fulfilled my purpose.
00:02:42.000 But half of, we came close to half of the house nearly dying.
00:02:47.000 Half of the house nearly dying.
00:02:50.000 Well, unless AOC was wearing a MAGA hat that day, then I don't know who would have shot her.
00:02:56.000 Because the only person that was shot and killed was a woman wearing a MAGA hat that supported Donald Trump, Ashley Babbitt.
00:03:04.000 And let us not forget Ashley Babbitt, who was shot by Lieutenant Michael Bird.
00:03:09.000 That's his name, right?
00:03:11.000 And we're not going to show the video or else YouTube's going to take us down on all this.
00:03:15.000 You guys can see the video on yourself, Ashley Babbitt shooting.
00:03:18.000 But I've seen it probably 30 times.
00:03:20.000 It's super horrific.
00:03:21.000 Ashley Babbitt pokes her head up through the window and gets basically executed by Michael Bird.
00:03:32.000 Darren, Revolver.news does a great job.
00:03:36.000 Darren Beattie, how are you doing?
00:03:37.000 Great.
00:03:38.000 I'm thrilled to be here.
00:03:39.000 Thanks for having me, Charlie.
00:03:40.000 You deserve a huge praise and thank you.
00:03:43.000 You have done legitimate investigative work, and it's really extraordinary, Darren.
00:03:48.000 It really is.
00:03:49.000 So I just want to make sure you know that.
00:03:50.000 Thank you very much.
00:03:51.000 Before we get into the specifics, what's your analysis of how the media is covering this day?
00:03:56.000 And just kind of just tell us your take on the significance of why we get this story right.
00:04:01.000 Right.
00:04:01.000 Well, it's pretty remarkable, although sadly, it's not terribly surprising how the media is covering it.
00:04:07.000 The media, which is the mouthpiece of the regime, is echoing the words of Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris: that January 6th is a day that will live in infamy.
00:04:17.000 It's an attack on democracy because it was this giant coordinated terrorist event on the part of Trump supporters, effectively.
00:04:25.000 And for that reason, they think that January 6th deserves to be uttered in the same sentence in the same realm as Pearl Harbor and September 11th, which is ludicrous, but it's also very dangerous.
00:04:41.000 And it shows you what their political agenda is.
00:04:44.000 If January 6th is really that serious, you can only imagine the severity of the response they're calling for for the national security state to crush Trump supporters and anyone adjacent to the alleged threat that Trump supporters and populism pose to our national security.
00:05:03.000 Really well, well said, and you're right.
00:05:04.000 And it's intentional.
00:05:05.000 And we said in our show, of course, it's outrageous.
00:05:08.000 We could have done the typical talk radio thing.
00:05:10.000 We're like, oh, yeah, how dare you compare it to Pearl Harbor and 9-11? 0.55
00:05:14.000 Obviously, that's easy.
00:05:15.000 That's low-hanging fruit.
00:05:16.000 But you make the more important point, which is they're doing that on purpose.
00:05:19.000 They're doing that so then they can provoke a response that it's kind of one of those days that will live in infamy where you get a Department of Homeland Security because of 9-11.
00:05:30.000 Start the new year off with free meat.
00:05:32.000 Look, everybody, Good Ranchers is amazing.
00:05:34.000 And Good Ranchers is giving away 40 free chicken breasts to every order that use my promo code Charlie.
00:05:40.000 Whoa, 40 free chicken breasts? 0.92
00:05:43.000 It's a lot.
00:05:43.000 That's $150 for free.
00:05:45.000 You could feed a church, a family, a village, 40 free chicken breasts.
00:05:50.000 It's amazing.
00:05:51.000 Where are you going to put all those?
00:05:52.000 Well, you can eat them because they're really good.
00:05:54.000 They want to help you kick the new year off right with a box of 100% American, 110% delicious, chicken, beef, and seafood.
00:06:00.000 Eat better, eat healthier, cook more meals at home, and enjoy loads of flavor with one of their many boxes.
00:06:06.000 This is pasture-raised, antibiotic-free, better than organic chicken, and it comes individually packaged, vacuum, sealed, pre-trimmed.
00:06:14.000 And best of all, right now, it's totally free.
00:06:16.000 Meal prep and mealtime may have never been easier because of their pre-season flavors that go straight into the pan and taste so amazing.
00:06:23.000 Every Good Ranchers Order, all American Ranchers, by the way, order supports American farms and ranches, donates meals to food banks, and helps you reach your new goals.
00:06:31.000 Take advantage of this limited time offer today.
00:06:33.000 Use promo code Charlie at checkout or visit goodranchers.com/slash Charlie for your 40 chicken breasts for free.
00:06:40.000 Save $150 with this deal.
00:06:41.000 It's a great way to start off the year.
00:06:43.000 Stock up on quality beef, chicken, and seafood that makes a difference in your life and others.
00:06:47.000 Go to goodranchers.com/slash Charlie to start 2020 on the best possible note: free, delicious meat.
00:06:54.000 40 free pieces of chicken, delicious, tender, juicy, better than organic, $150, value totally free, antibiotic-free, hormone-free, pasture-raised, pre-season flavors.
00:07:05.000 Go right now to goodranchers.com/slash Charlie.
00:07:11.000 Let's go to Cut 69.
00:07:13.000 This was really bizarre.
00:07:14.000 So, on January 5th, the day before January 6th, Ray Epps, this man who was once on the FBI's watch list, said that we need to go into the Capitol.
00:07:24.000 Super oddly specific.
00:07:26.000 So, here's someone that has kind of an alpha male presence, almost a military-style presence, who says, We need to go into the Capitol.
00:07:35.000 He said this the night before, Cut 69.
00:07:39.000 In fact, tomorrow, I don't even like to say it because I'll be arrested.
00:07:43.000 Well, let's not say it.
00:07:45.000 We need to go.
00:07:46.000 I'll say it.
00:07:47.000 We need to go in to the Capitol.
00:07:51.000 We need to go into the Capitol.
00:07:53.000 We need to go into the Capitol.
00:07:59.000 And then they start saying Fed, Fed, Fed.
00:08:03.000 And so Ray Epps has not been arrested, even though he did far more than other people that have been arrested, such as going into the Capitol, instigating and agitating, awfully specific about going into the Capitol.
00:08:15.000 So the question is, who is Ray Epps?
00:08:19.000 Well, Darren Beattie's been looking into that.
00:08:20.000 Rand Paul asked the question, Cut 71.
00:08:24.000 He questioned Merrick Garland on the Ray Epps video and the involvement of the Justice Department on January 6th, play cut 71.
00:08:31.000 As far as we can determine, the individual who was saying he'll probably go to jail, he'll probably be arrested, but he wants every, but they need to go into the Capitol the next day, is then the next day directing people to the Capitol.
00:08:45.000 And as far as we can find, this individual has not been charged with anything.
00:08:49.000 You said this is one of the most sweeping investigations in the history.
00:08:53.000 Have you seen that video or those frames from that video?
00:08:57.000 So as I said at the outset, one of the norms of the Justice Department is to not comment on impending investigations.
00:09:07.000 Yeah, that's just not true.
00:09:08.000 They comment on pending investigations all the time.
00:09:10.000 Merrick Garland literally gave a speech about a pending investigation yesterday.
00:09:14.000 Now, next time, I'm going to text Tom.
00:09:16.000 That was Thomas Massey, not Rand Paul.
00:09:17.000 They're both from Kentucky, but whatever.
00:09:19.000 So I'm going to text Thomas Massey.
00:09:21.000 I'm going to say, next time, play the video.
00:09:23.000 Literally make Merrick Garland watch the video of this guy, Ray Epps.
00:09:29.000 And so you have this strange pattern of behavior where this guy that hasn't been arrested, hasn't been subpoenaed by the committee, was instigating and agitating and leading the activity of what happened on January the 6th.
00:09:46.000 It's very suspicious.
00:09:48.000 Now, what's most interesting, though, is that he was at one time on the federal government FBI's watch list for the events that surrounded January 6th.
00:09:57.000 And so when he was on the January 6th website, no one really thought much of it, but then they removed him.
00:10:04.000 We don't know what's happened to Ray Epps.
00:10:06.000 Maybe Darren does.
00:10:07.000 Who is Ray Epps?
00:10:09.000 So it's a great question.
00:10:12.000 Ray Epps is the singular soul, only individual in the mountains of video documentary evidence of 1.6, the only person caught dead to rights promoting an explicit mission to go into the Capitol.
00:10:29.000 He did so on January 5th, the evening of January 5th, so the day before.
00:10:35.000 And this wasn't just some one-off of a drunk who has a crazy idea and we don't hear from him again.
00:10:40.000 No.
00:10:41.000 He follows up on his stated mission the next day.
00:10:44.000 He's a veritable Where's Waldo of January 6th?
00:10:48.000 And if your listeners go to revolver.news and look at our first bombshell report on Epps, they can watch all the comprehensive video for themselves.
00:10:57.000 He's everywhere.
00:10:58.000 He's telling the crowds, after the Trump rally, be sure to go to the Capitol.
00:11:03.000 Everyone's going to the Capitol.
00:11:05.000 That's where our problems are.
00:11:07.000 Our enemy is the Capitol.
00:11:09.000 And then sure enough, right before the initial decisive breach of Capitol grounds, that video that everyone's seen of the metal barricades being busted down by rioters mowing it down, running through the barriers, right before that occurs on 12.53 p.m., Ray Epps is right there, right by the barricade.
00:11:33.000 He whispers in a certain individual's ear, and that individual, two seconds later, carries on with that initial and decisive breach.
00:11:41.000 And this person, Ray Epps, although, as you mentioned correctly, he was originally on the FBI's top 20 most wanted list.
00:11:50.000 The FBI claimed to have tremendous interest in him.
00:11:53.000 They wanted help identifying him.
00:11:56.000 Then, when the internet identified who he was, there's crickets from the FBI until Revolver.news ran a major piece exposing likely FBI involvement in January 6th.
00:12:08.000 Then the next day, the FBI scrubbed Epps' name and face from their public database.
00:12:15.000 And the only thing that we've heard from since from FBI agents pertaining to Ray Epps is for an FBI agent of the Phoenix Field Office to deny knowledge that he even exists.
00:12:30.000 So it's just like so much.
00:12:33.000 What's his background?
00:12:35.000 Because he seemed as if to be this kind of like alpha male figure, as you put in one of your pieces at Revolver.news.
00:12:41.000 He wasn't just kind of like the chewbaker guy who was kind of a joke. 0.57
00:12:45.000 This guy kind of seemed like he knew what he was doing. 0.99
00:12:48.000 Oh, yes.
00:12:49.000 And, you know, these are intangibles.
00:12:51.000 These are subjective factors.
00:12:53.000 And that's why I think it's so crucial.
00:12:55.000 Our analysis is very powerful and very important.
00:12:58.000 But what's so good about the Epps case is that the video really sells itself.
00:13:04.000 And I think if anyone who has, you know, an objective approach to the issue, I challenge you, go and watch the video itself.
00:13:12.000 It's on the Revolver.news report and then ask yourself whether this makes any sense.
00:13:18.000 Because it's one thing to get caught up in the emotions of a riled up crowd and just go wild and get into a frenzy.
00:13:27.000 The case of Ray Epps and certain other key individuals we cover in our report is quite the opposite.
00:13:33.000 He's cool.
00:13:35.000 He's detached.
00:13:36.000 He's cold.
00:13:37.000 He's methodical.
00:13:39.000 He is professional.
00:13:40.000 He conducts himself like a professional doing a job who wants to do no more and no less.
00:13:47.000 He repeatedly encourages people to take certain precautions.
00:13:50.000 He wants them to go into the Capitol, but he doesn't want them to get hurt.
00:13:54.000 One guy he talks to right before the initial breach, he's known to researchers as Maroon Proud Boy.
00:14:02.000 Ray Epps tells him, leave this here before we go in.
00:14:06.000 I don't want you to get shot.
00:14:08.000 So that acknowledges that Ray Epps knew people are going into the Capitol, but he's there to do a job, and that's to get people into the Capitol.
00:14:16.000 And he doesn't want any more damage than necessary.
00:14:18.000 Leave this here.
00:14:20.000 I don't want you to get shot.
00:14:22.000 Just throughout the entire event, he's cool.
00:14:25.000 He's calm.
00:14:25.000 He's collected.
00:14:26.000 He's detached.
00:14:27.000 He's methodical.
00:14:29.000 He's a professional doing a job.
00:14:31.000 Yeah, it was surgical.
00:14:34.000 The real estate market is extremely hot right now.
00:14:37.000 People are taking advantage of low interest rates and economic uncertainty by investing in real assets.
00:14:41.000 Whether you are a first-time buyer or just looking to make a change, the key is to getting the property you want is being pre-qualified and having cash in hand.
00:14:48.000 That's why you guys, all of us, myself included, I had to stop doing this.
00:14:52.000 I had to stop using the big banks.
00:14:54.000 I used a big bank for a loan previously.
00:14:56.000 It was a disaster.
00:14:57.000 It took forever.
00:14:58.000 Not to mention, I go look at their score on secondvote.com.
00:15:01.000 Like, wow, my loan helped fund abortions, BLM Incorporated, burning down of Wendy's, the destruction of our society. 0.66
00:15:08.000 I'm done with it.
00:15:10.000 Then I met Andrew and Todd, Andrew Dell Ray and Todd of Aiken, who become great friends of mine, AndrewandTodd.com.
00:15:16.000 They are with Sierra Pacific Mortgage.
00:15:18.000 My producer, Andrew, he's working with them right now, and he tells me they are part counselors, part financial planners, and they're really helping them.
00:15:23.000 And I'm about to use them for something.
00:15:24.000 I've been so impressed by them.
00:15:26.000 But they are bankers, not brokers.
00:15:28.000 That means that they can help you start to finish.
00:15:30.000 But quite honestly, let's divest and take all of our money out of these woke banks. 0.65
00:15:35.000 So maybe you're buying a new home.
00:15:36.000 Maybe you're refinancing.
00:15:37.000 Whatever process you're going through, just fill out a couple of simple questions online at andrewandodd.com.
00:15:42.000 They can assess your situation right over the phone.
00:15:44.000 Go to AndrewandTodd.com or call 8888 1172.
00:15:47.000 That's AAA 888 1172.
00:15:49.000 Even if you have a friend who's buying a home, I'm sure every single person knows someone that's buying a home.
00:15:53.000 Just put your arm around him and say, hey, go to AndrewNTodd.com.
00:15:55.000 Charlie Kirk speaks favorably of them.
00:15:57.000 Here's what I can guarantee you with AndrewandTodd.com.
00:16:00.000 Zero of the proceeds will go to fund abortion.
00:16:03.000 Zero will go to fund BLM. 0.76
00:16:05.000 Zero will go to fund the woke industrial complex instead.
00:16:08.000 Andrew and Todd, they support shows like ours.
00:16:11.000 They want to help patriots, Christians, and people that love their country and love the Lord take out loans and do it correctly.
00:16:18.000 So go to AndrewandTodd.com.
00:16:20.000 Call 888 888 1172.
00:16:22.000 That's 888 888 1172.
00:16:24.000 AndrewandTodd.com.
00:16:26.000 Support the good guys and stop supporting companies and banks that hate you.
00:16:31.000 The banks have waged war on our values.
00:16:33.000 Time to say Sayonara via Condios.
00:16:36.000 Alvita Sane.
00:16:37.000 I'll be going to andrewandod.com.
00:16:42.000 Darren, tell us about the Ray Epps Gate Proud Boys issue.
00:16:47.000 I got part of it, but build that out for our audience.
00:16:50.000 The official story of January 6th basically says that the whole event, that initial breach that I mentioned, where Ray Epps was right there at the barricades, that's for the most part attributed to the Proud Boys who arrive at the Peace Monument by the Capitol.
00:17:09.000 And that's, you know, that's the full story.
00:17:12.000 Well, the bombshell piece that Revolver.news ran tells a dramatically different story and we tell it with unquestionable video evidence.
00:17:22.000 And that is this: we identify key players who go on to play decisive, essential roles in cutting down fencing, removing fencing, breaking down barriers, instigating the crowd.
00:17:38.000 And all of these people are hanging out, coincidentally, perhaps, hanging out right by the peace monument before the Proud Boys even get there.
00:17:49.000 They're all at the same place, and they all go on to play decisive, key roles in engineering a situation such that January 6th can turn from a rally into a riot.
00:18:03.000 And I think it's very plausible that, you know, the Proud Boys is itself a heavily infiltrated group.
00:18:11.000 We know that its head, Enrique Tario, has a history of being an FBI informant.
00:18:16.000 We know that Joe Biggs, who leads the Proud Boy contingent to the Peace Monument, where the other individuals I just mentioned are already hanging out.
00:18:24.000 Joe Biggs has admitted that he's in regular communication with the FBI to give the FBI visibility as to the Proud Boys' activities.
00:18:33.000 So I think it's very likely that the feds knew that the Proud Boys were going to be at this specific location at a specific time.
00:18:41.000 The feds called various informants and agents and people working for them and said, we need you to be there too to help amplify and intensify whatever is going on.
00:18:52.000 And I think that's the best explanation to account for the fact that not only are there a bunch of these players unmentioned by the media who play decisive roles, as I mentioned, but that all of these people were loitering at the same place that the Proud Boys got to before the Proud Boys got there.
00:19:11.000 And they play the part in this initial breach.
00:19:14.000 And so I think that's what's significant for people to understand.
00:19:17.000 Beside the fact that all of this occurred, very important, all of this occurred far before Trump's speech even ended.
00:19:26.000 So all of these shenanigans are going on while the crowd is still far away from the Capitol, listening to Trump, going about their business, being peaceful.
00:19:35.000 But a whole different story was happening by the Capitol, setting the table for the event to turn out the way it did.
00:19:43.000 And the people who are the key table setters, as I mentioned, are unindicted, unapprehended, in many cases, not even searched.
00:19:53.000 And in one case, we know that the feds know who the guy is, and he's still not arrested, apprehended.
00:19:59.000 And so those are really the most damning and pressing open questions that must be answered by officials like Merrick Garland if he would dare to do so.
00:20:10.000 Yeah, even more than that.
00:20:12.000 I mean, we still don't know the full extent.
00:20:15.000 And just so everyone knows, if you look at the map, and that was a great explanation, that's on the northwest corner, if I'm not mistaken.
00:20:22.000 And so it would have been the proud boys that were marching down Pennsylvania Avenue or in a Kinn Street to it.
00:20:28.000 And then that's where Ray Epps was doing all these weird games with the gates, as if he was trying to provoke and instigate, you know, trying to get people to go to that next interval up.
00:20:40.000 I want to get into the pipe bomb issue with you, which I think is really interesting that you have also been covering.
00:20:47.000 But let me ask you just in one minute, have you started to see a change in how some conservatives are talking about this?
00:20:54.000 Because when you first probably started about this, people were pretty hands-off.
00:20:57.000 Are you starting to see the Overton window change a little bit?
00:21:01.000 You know, that's a great question.
00:21:02.000 And unfortunately, not everyone is sort of as brave and discerning as you are.
00:21:06.000 And, you know, I give you tremendous credit for really having the discernment and courage to pick this up from the very beginning.
00:21:13.000 And there are very few people who fit into that category.
00:21:16.000 Tucker, Carlson, Steve Dannon, a handful of others.
00:21:21.000 As for the Overton window, one thing I've found to be tremendously encouraging is actually people who are traditionally associated with the left, but who understand the history of the government performing exactly these types of operations have embraced revolvers reporting.
00:21:38.000 So Glenn Greenwald has been a big champion of our reporting.
00:21:42.000 Just earlier today, I did a podcast session with Aaron Matte of the Gray Zone, who's also somebody of the left and a leftist critic of the national security state.
00:21:54.000 As for kind of mainstream conservatism, and in certain cases, I mean, it's not a clear definition as to what constitutes mainstream, but I was very encouraged that Mike Huckabee did cover our reporting.
00:22:09.000 Glenn Beck has had me on several times, and I'm grateful for that.
00:22:14.000 And many congressmen from Thomas Massey, who's generally quite strong.
00:22:22.000 And of course, we have our fighters like Matt Gates, MTG, and so forth.
00:22:29.000 And so we've got a good group of people covering it.
00:22:33.000 I was very disappointed, though, the other day to hear what Ted Cruz had to say about the event, in which he completely, it wasn't only that he refused to cover the revolvers reporting indicating the likelihood of federal involvement.
00:22:52.000 It's that he completely leaned into the left and regime's narrative of January 6th as this large-scale, evil terrorist event of MAGA people.
00:23:04.000 So that's an area where I think we should be rightly disappointed, if not surprised, certainly disappointed.
00:23:12.000 Yeah, and you've seen Thomas Massey, who's been really good.
00:23:15.000 He's used your reporting directly in a hearing, Rand Paul as well.
00:23:20.000 You're seeing a really interesting coalition that you articulated of libertarians that you and I aren't always playing nice with on certain issues, like on trade and immigration, that have been really good on this, actually, because they've actually been through the security state being used to weaponize dissident groups.
00:23:38.000 Okay, so now I want to ask you, who planted the pipe bombs, Darren?
00:23:42.000 That's a great question.
00:23:43.000 And I'm really glad that this issue is sort of revived itself on the anniversary of January 6th, because I think talk about the pipe.
00:23:52.000 There's so much going on that it's understandable the pipeline, the pipe bomb people would forget about it.
00:23:58.000 And we still don't know who planted the pipe bombs, but there are some relevant factors that I would like to enter into the discussion to discourse that are covered more extensively in a Revolver.news piece, specifically on the pipe bomb that we put out shortly after the pipe bomb issue was a thing in the media.
00:24:18.000 Now, one thing I think is important to note to tie it in with the Rayeps breach and everything like that is that the word of the existence of these pipe, the pipe bombs at the RNC and the DNC buildings, the word spread almost simultaneously to the initial breach of the Capitol grounds, which is quite remarkable.
00:24:43.000 And it was remarkable because, whether intentional or not, it was the perfect diversionary event to marshal what limited law enforcement resources existed at the time at the breach location to have them go and tend to this so-called pipe bomb threat just at that decisive minutes of the initial breach.
00:25:07.000 The timing is interesting enough that I think it's worth remarking upon, even though I can't say anything definitive based on the timing.
00:25:15.000 Maybe it's just a coincidence.
00:25:17.000 Another thing that I think is really interesting about this pipe bomb, and again, it's covered extensively in the Revolver report on it, is it's very clear that despite the FBI's claim that they're so interested in getting to the bottom of this, all they release is very truncated, abbreviated, selective, highly distorted, grainy footage.
00:25:42.000 Now, there's no way that they don't have more footage of this alleged pipe bomber.
00:25:49.000 There's no way they don't have more evidence, forensic evidence, fingerprints, all kinds of things that they can release to the public.
00:25:57.000 And so I think it's worth pointing out just the discrepancy of how they claim to be so interested in finding out who this person is, and yet they don't give the public any reasonable basis on which to make that identification, even though we know that they have more information they're putting out.
00:26:14.000 And it's worth comparing that to the way that the feds initially responded to Rayeps.
00:26:20.000 Remember, we covered the fact that right after Ray Eps, they put him on their most wanted list.
00:26:25.000 They said, We need your help, Americans, in identifying this man.
00:26:30.000 And sure enough, the internet sleuths identified who he was, and the feds were not interested.
00:26:36.000 I think you see a similar type of charade here with the pipe bomb scenario, where this kind of false display of interest that really does not comport with the level of information that they've given to the public that could be very useful.
00:26:53.000 And there's a final point, and that is this.
00:26:56.000 Initially, the person who was appearing in all these public pronouncements saying we need your help in identifying this guy, it's a very interesting individual.
00:27:05.000 His name is Stephen D'Antuono.
00:27:07.000 Now, he was calling for help identifying the pipe bomber in his capacity as an agent of the DC FBI field office.
00:27:17.000 But what many people don't know is just weeks before that, he had a different role and a very important role.
00:27:25.000 And that is that he headed up the Detroit FBI field office, where he was the guy leading the infiltration operation into what is usually known as the Michigan kidnapping plot.
00:27:38.000 A plot that we now know is overwhelmingly infiltrated by the feds that has such a strong entrapment case that the defense counsel for the defendants there are using an entrapment defense.
00:27:54.000 We know that 12 out of the 26 of these so-called plotters were either informants or agents.
00:28:00.000 And it's conveniently the guy who oversaw all of that in his new capacity as the investigator for January 6th, calling for information about the pipe bombs.
00:28:11.000 Give me a break.
00:28:12.000 And to add to that, there's a couple very obvious things about the pipe bomb story that never made sense to me, which is they weren't detonated, which thankfully, but that's interesting, but they were placed.
00:28:26.000 Right.
00:28:27.000 It's both the RNC and the DNC.
00:28:29.000 Right.
00:28:30.000 So it was both parties.
00:28:32.000 And the person who put the pipe bombs, we never triangulated their position with the cell phone.
00:28:39.000 Is that right?
00:28:41.000 Presumably, like, who knows what the feds have done themselves, but that just goes to show there's a tremendous amount of information that could be useful to the public in identifying this person that has not been made public.
00:28:54.000 And so it really calls into question the sincerity of the FBI when it says, We really need your help.
00:29:01.000 We really have an interest in identifying this person.
00:29:04.000 And we've seen this pattern before with Ray Epps and others, this kind of false, performative gesture of, oh, we really want to get to the bottom of it, where every other indication shows that they have zero interest in getting to the bottom of it, possibly because the actual truth of it is very damning to these agencies themselves.
00:29:26.000 Yeah, I mean, so what would potentially want to speculate what it could be, but you know, if someone's going to call January 6 a terrorist attack, the only thing that could really justify is planting bombs at a political office.
00:29:40.000 I mean, I want to know who did that.
00:29:42.000 And if it wasn't, if it was just faulty bombs that were planted to try to create a diversionary attack or to try to create a different news story, it's so it's it's a it's its own universe from what happened at the Capitol, right?
00:29:58.000 It right.
00:29:59.000 I don't even want to speculate because we don't know, but if you're looking at this just objectively, it looks as if it might have been a right-hand, left-hand thing.
00:30:10.000 It might have been just some sort of operation that went wrong.
00:30:15.000 But you would think that with all the technology at our disposal, we'd be able to find the people that did that.
00:30:21.000 It's really stunning.
00:30:22.000 So I want to ask you, Darren, in closing, we have about three to four minutes left here.
00:30:28.000 Kind of more broadly, you've been on the leading charge of really discovering and revealing this.
00:30:34.000 Do you think there's more?
00:30:36.000 Does your intuition, does your suspicion believe that there's even more that you have not yet, let's say, verified in regards to the federal government's involvement on 16?
00:30:49.000 Oh, absolutely.
00:30:50.000 I mean, there's There's more in just things that our research team has discovered that we simply haven't had time to put in publishable form yet.
00:31:00.000 There's absolutely more.
00:31:02.000 It's just as, in some cases, even more damning than what we've already reported.
00:31:08.000 And as for what we've already reported, there's a lot more in this sense, that this story now has enough weight and momentum that it's not going away.
00:31:17.000 And I'm tremendously encouraged by the fact that the defense counsels in many of the January 6th cases have taken Revolver's investigative reporting seriously and have taken the steps to use their legal authority to subpoena people like Ray Epps, to subpoena people like Stuart Rose, because we all know that we're never going to get that from the January 6th Committee, at least in its present composition.
00:31:43.000 And so the best bet to actually getting to the truth of these characters that are already covered extensively and we know there's something suspicious, we need answers, we can get this from the Defense Council using their legal authorities.
00:31:57.000 And an off chance, I've said this before publicly, and I think it's worth saying again, we have people like Ray Epps.
00:32:04.000 We have other people who likely have a story to tell.
00:32:08.000 And the feds and their handlers, in many cases, they treat their informants and even some agents like Pons, and they're deceived as well.
00:32:18.000 And I think there's a good chance that if not Ray Epps, some of these people are having a crisis in conscience or they feel tricked or what they ended up partaking in turned out to be not what they wanted to partake in.
00:32:30.000 And I would call on at least one of these people to step forward, do the right thing.
00:32:36.000 You're now involved and complicit in one of the biggest scandals in American history, and you have the opportunity to become one of the biggest American hero whistleblowers in American history.
00:32:46.000 So I hope at least one person will do the right thing, stand up, speak out, and tell the American people the truth that they deserve to hear.
00:32:54.000 The truth will come out.
00:32:55.000 And if Republicans take back the majority, I said this to Kevin McCarthy. 1.00
00:32:59.000 I said, you need to have a church and pike committee. 1.00
00:33:02.000 It is out of control. 1.00
00:33:03.000 You have to get to the bottom of this.
00:33:04.000 There will be somebody, a secretary, a desk worker, an email that will show that there was some sort of concerted effort to instigate or to propel forward.
00:33:17.000 And the Ray Apps, the Ray Apps video, which you found, Darren, is like as close to a smoking gun as you can get, where you repeatedly say the night before, we have to go into the Capitol, we have to go to the Capitol.
00:33:27.000 That's bizarre.
00:33:29.000 So if this is Pearl Harbor, then we have a video of the general of the armed forces of Japan saying we're going to go bomb Hawaii.
00:33:40.000 That would probably, if it is, right?
00:33:42.000 Under the new rules of engagement of the regime, you have a video of someone saying they want to do the man.
00:33:48.000 I would think that would probably be important.
00:33:50.000 So revolver.news, so much more I want to discuss with you.
00:33:53.000 Everybody, go support Revolver if you can.
00:33:56.000 We got an email, Darren, which is a compliment.
00:33:58.000 Someone says, please tell this guy to get a bodyguard because you're barking up some pretty powerful trees here, Darren.
00:34:05.000 You really are.
00:34:05.000 But we have your back.
00:34:06.000 You have a home here to be able to break the news and explore it factually.
00:34:10.000 And Darren, you've also been super disciplined.
00:34:12.000 I want to compliment you to not overly speculate.
00:34:14.000 It's tempting to want to do that.
00:34:16.000 It's tempting to want to use buzzwords that are always trying to get clicks, but you've been so focused on the reporting.
00:34:20.000 You're doing a great job.
00:34:21.000 Darren, come back.
00:34:21.000 Thanks so much.
00:34:22.000 Revolver.news.
00:34:23.000 Talk to you soon.
00:34:26.000 Look, everyone out there has been asking me, Charlie, how do I get more pillows?
00:34:30.000 Well, that's mypillow.com.
00:34:32.000 And my pillow doesn't have their box stores anymore, so we got to help them out.
00:34:35.000 And part of them being canceled, they want to give you the lowest price yet.
00:34:39.000 So you can get the lowest price in the history of my pillow for their classic standard MyPillow regularly, $69.98.
00:34:46.000 Now only $19.98 with the promo code.
00:34:49.000 They also have queen size, regularly $79.98 and $24.98 with a promo code or king size, usually $89.98, only $29.98 with your promo code.
00:34:59.000 MyPillow is not just pillows.
00:35:01.000 They have over 150 products, everything from sleepwear to new beds.
00:35:04.000 Go to mypillow.com or call 800-875-0425 and use promo code Kirk to take advantage of Mike's special offer on his standard MyPillow.
00:35:12.000 That's mypillow.com, promo code Kirk, or call 800-875-0425, mypillow.com, promo code Kirk, mypillow.com, promo code Kirk.
00:35:24.000 It's literally theater.
00:35:27.000 Nancy Pelosi has, I want to make sure I get this right.
00:35:30.000 It's almost hard to believe.
00:35:31.000 Nancy Pelosi has called out the cast of Hamilton to sing Broadway on the January for her January 6th Memorial.
00:35:42.000 Am I reading that right?
00:35:43.000 It's literally theater.
00:35:47.000 Part of her January 6th remembrance is a song by Lynn Manuel Miranda performed by the cast of Hamilton.
00:35:57.000 If they only knew anything about Alexander Hamilton, I think that would probably change their opinion, but they don't really care, obviously.
00:36:07.000 That was a great conversation with Darren Beattie, and he really is doing a great job.
00:36:11.000 And he brought up a really interesting point.
00:36:13.000 And Glenn Greenwald is someone that I've been emailing back and forth with.
00:36:16.000 I really want to get on the program for a different reason because Glenn Greenwald has been part of someone who has really changed my perspective and my opinion on a lot of different issues, especially when it comes to domestic surveillance.
00:36:28.000 And he's been very consistent on this.
00:36:29.000 And he was the one, just so everyone knows, Glenn Greenwald worked for the intercept or the Guardian.
00:36:34.000 Where's Connor?
00:36:34.000 I can't see him.
00:36:36.000 One of the two.
00:36:37.000 I think it was the Intercept.
00:36:40.000 The Guardian.
00:36:40.000 It was The Guardian.
00:36:41.000 You're right.
00:36:41.000 It was The Guardian.
00:36:43.000 And Andrew says it was the Intercept.
00:36:46.000 Okay, so maybe it was both.
00:36:47.000 Who knows?
00:36:48.000 All right.
00:36:49.000 The point is that Glenn Greenwald was the guy that was with Edward Snowden in Hong Kong or Singapore or Malaysia or whatever when Edward Snowden fled Hawaii, had all the uploads of documents from the NSA, and really showed in phenomenal detail the power of the domestic surveillance apparatus.
00:37:10.000 And again, I always kind of took more of a national security side, like, oh, we need this to keep ourselves safe.
00:37:18.000 And then you saw the corruption with the FISA courts.
00:37:20.000 You start to see what these federal agencies are capable of.
00:37:23.000 You see John Brennan saying that we should use the national security apparatus to go after Christians, religious fundamentalists. 0.56
00:37:30.000 I'm one of those, I guess, whatever that means, religious fundamentalist.
00:37:33.000 And you start to say, wait a second, if we're really in the business of constitutional guardianship and respect for the rule of law and individual liberty, then we need to say, we don't believe that these federal agencies should just be able to run roughshod over the Fourth Amendment, the Fifth Amendment, due process.
00:37:51.000 And that's precisely what happened.
00:37:53.000 But what Darren Beattie was articulating that I found to be really profound is that there is kind of this fusionism that's happening between people that care about civil liberties and care about restraining the size and scope of the federal government and its potential abuses, especially when it comes to the security apparatus against domestic political organizations and kind of Trump supporters.
00:38:14.000 And this is something that kind of Trump's instincts were always right about.
00:38:17.000 Obviously, Trump was largely targeted by the domestic security apparatus.
00:38:22.000 He was spied on by the FBI.
00:38:24.000 Michael Flynn was entrapped by Peter Struckstroke Smirk and Peter Struckstroke Smirk with his lover and him being an adulterer with Lisa Page went after the entire Trump regime before they basically even started within like two weeks.
00:38:41.000 And that very same intelligence agency, we shouldn't be stunned if they were trying to do whatever they could.
00:38:46.000 There's so many questions.
00:38:47.000 And Darren worded it right.
00:38:49.000 We don't know.
00:38:50.000 There's a lot we don't know.
00:38:52.000 Maybe Ray Epps was just one of the instigators, but it really does beg the question of why hasn't he been arrested?
00:38:58.000 Why was he removed from the FBI site as Darren Beattie broke the story?
00:39:01.000 Like, who is this guy?
00:39:02.000 And why don't we have elected officials? 0.98
00:39:04.000 And if they want to get to the bottom of January 6th, which I'm all for, by the way, I want to get to the bottom of it.
00:39:09.000 I want to know who planted the pipe bombs.
00:39:10.000 I think it's awful.
00:39:11.000 You plant pipe bombs on a political party's office?
00:39:15.000 You should be arrested for that.
00:39:16.000 We don't know who it is.
00:39:17.000 No suspects, no updates, no information, nothing.
00:39:19.000 Kind of like the Las Vegas shooter.
00:39:21.000 Largest mass shooting in American history.
00:39:23.000 No motive.
00:39:24.000 No idea why he did it.
00:39:25.000 Case closed.
00:39:26.000 Go find another.
00:39:28.000 Go get a life is what we were basically told.
00:39:30.000 Okay.
00:39:32.000 Very few people are willing to actually do the research and get to the bottom of it.
00:39:35.000 So you kind of got the three big ones.
00:39:37.000 Darren Beattie, Julie Kelly, Ben Weitgarten.
00:39:40.000 But Darren's definitely been the one that's been on this Ray Epps potential federal involvement on it.
00:39:44.000 If you guys want to support, again, it's Revolver.news.
00:39:47.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
00:39:48.000 Email us your thoughts.
00:39:49.000 It's always freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:39:51.000 If you want to support our show, go to charliekirk.com slash support.
00:39:54.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
00:39:55.000 God bless.
00:39:58.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.