00:00:33.000And so maybe you are a young woman and you want to come to our Young Women's Leadership Summit and see Candace Owens and Kaylee McEnany and more.
00:00:43.000That's tpusa.com slash ywls to come to our young women's leadership summit.
00:00:48.000Or maybe you want to come to our student action summit in Tampa, Florida, where we now have President Donald Trump confirmed in Tampa, Florida in late July.
00:01:34.000He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:41.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:02:21.000Yeah, we started Students for Life about 15 years ago.
00:02:24.000We go to high school, college, mid-law school campuses, similar to Turning Point, and start pro-life groups in those campuses to change minds of those most directly targeted by the abortion industry and to help moms on the campus know that she doesn't have to choose between the life of her child and her education.
00:03:02.000So I want to get into all the specifics and all of that, but let me ask you a question that someone might not have asked you.
00:03:08.000Are we winning or losing this title right now?
00:03:10.000I actually think by the extremism that you're seeing from Nancy Pelosi and the Biden administration in Washington, D.C., it's actually a pretty good sign that we're winning the culture war here.
00:03:21.000That despite almost 50 years of legal abortion, of them throwing everything they can throw at this, every term that they try to use to, you know, never want to talk about what's inside of a mother, that they're still losing this battle.
00:03:35.000That this generation, when you poll this question, when you actually ask an honest poll question, you will see that the majority of people, regardless of how they view politics or what they call themselves or what isms or labels they give themselves, they're against abortion.
00:03:50.000That fundamentally we haven't lost our humanity and recognizing the humanity of the pre-born child.
00:03:55.000And I think you can see by the extremism and how insane they are.
00:03:58.000I mean, they want to pack the Supreme Court because of one issue.
00:04:25.000But what's the argument that you make that that which is wrong, termination of a life, should also be illegal?
00:04:31.000Because that's the kind of the escape hatch, isn't it?
00:04:33.000Like, oh, I don't like abortion, but I'm not going to tell you what to do with your life.
00:04:36.000And that's really the safe pansy answer to say, well, I don't personally like abortion, but I'm not going to tell you what to do.
00:04:45.000And that's, well, then you must not actually believe what happens inside of an abortion facility every single day is violence.
00:04:51.000Because if you saw the broken bodies of 2,700 human beings every night in the nightly news piled up outside of abortion facilities, you would say, my God, we have to end this.
00:06:57.000That is a human being that was alive, whole, unique, had a beating heart that wasn't doing anything to anybody else that you've terminated, that you've snuffed out.
00:07:40.000The reason is, is in order to justify the quote-unquote right to abortion, we have to dehumanize what is inside of a pre-born, inside of a woman.
00:08:08.000But we use those terms and the abortion industry has been using those terms now for almost five decades to try to, you know, really kind of conflate that.
00:08:17.000They actually know heartbeat is actually significant.
00:08:19.000We've been polling it with 18 to 34-year-olds.
00:08:22.000And when you even ask, you know, this what's quote unquote the most liberal voting block, a lot of people would say in the American electorate, when you poll, even you ask young women about the heartbeat and if abortion should be legal then, they'll all say, no, like, oh, abortion ends a beating heart.
00:08:40.000Now, the challenge is you have to educate and say, well, did you know that every single abortion ends a beating heart?
00:08:46.000And then it starts to, you know, cause them to question their previous statement because that might mean if they say they're against abortion, they might have to start changing some of their behavior and no one really wants to do that.
00:09:37.000And so a heartbeat is definitely an indication of life, but let's go a step before that, which is really what we believe, which is when DNA is created.
00:09:51.000Because there's never a moment before or after that a unique whole living human being has come into existence.
00:09:57.000There's like everything after, when egg and sperm unite is just development, is natural development.
00:10:04.000And it actually becomes a slippery slope, Charlie, because if you say, well, and often I'll hear this on campus, somebody will say, well, I don't think life begins until 21 weeks.
00:10:13.000And somebody else will say, I think life begins at 18 weeks.
00:10:20.000And we know, once again, looking at human history, that becomes a very slippery slope when you start theming when other people's lives or their worth or value begins.
00:10:29.000So we have an objective belief in our country of when life ends, but not when life begins.
00:10:43.000And we actually do not know perfect numbers, Charlie, because we do not have a national abortion reporting requirement.
00:10:48.000The abortion industry gets to voluntarily give their numbers to the Alan Gutmacher Institute, who's named after Eugenesis, the second president of Planned Parenthood.
00:10:56.000And that's the best numbers we can get as from the pro-abortion industry.
00:10:59.000What's amazing about the Guttmacher Institute, when you go to their website, they admit that 98% plus of all abortions are for no reason.
00:11:42.000So when Roe was handed down January 22nd, 1973, a lot of people do not know this, but Roe only legalized abortion the first trimester.
00:11:49.000The court made up this trimester system the first three months.
00:11:52.000And the same day they handed down a second decision, Doe v. Bolton.
00:11:56.000Doe v. Bolton allows abortion in all nine months of pregnancy for whatever reason, using a loose definition of a woman's health.
00:12:04.000So you can go in and say, I have mental anguish that's hurting my health.
00:12:09.000Therefore, abortion can happen up to the moment of birth.
00:12:12.000So people actually do not, like, I'll be on NPR and people will argue with me that abortions do not happen in ninth month.
00:12:18.000And you can go to Albuquerque, New Mexico, the late-term abortion capital of the world, and women fly, you fly across the globe to abort their children at 37 weeks.
00:12:26.000So Steve Smotherman's a good friend of mine.
00:12:28.000He runs a huge church there and he's been fighting against it.
00:15:07.000You know, KCV Planned Parenthood was one of the biggest challenges, as you know.
00:15:11.000And that was the first time the court said the states have an interest, a compelling interest, to listen, to allow some abortions to be restricted, to place some restrictions on abortion.
00:15:23.000The partial birth abortion case of 2007, Gonzalez v. Planned Parenthood, Gonzalez v. Carhartt actually banned for the first time a specific type of abortion.
00:15:34.000And what the court said there was, well, it doesn't infringe on Roe and Doe because you can still kill a baby late term.
00:15:39.000You know, you just induce a cardiac arrest, induce a heart attack, and kill a baby late term.
00:15:46.000So there have been challenges, but fundamentally, what the court has continued to say is access always Trump's safety, and you have to allow women the ability to end the life of their child.
00:15:57.000So Roe versus Wade says only the first trimester.
00:16:19.000If you see the AP or Royals will do a poll on abortion, they'll say, well, do you support Roe versus Wade?
00:16:24.000It allows abortion the first three months.
00:16:26.000And they'll never actually, you'll never hear them say Doe v. Bolton because they don't want they, Americans like to think of abortion as rare and only happening in certain circumstances and very early in pregnancy.
00:16:39.000No one likes to admit what we all know is that late-term abortions happen and it's certainly not rare and that it's certainly not safe as the FDA did just this week.
00:16:48.000I mean, I don't know if you saw what the FDA did this week, but they pulled the Johnson-Johnson vaccine for the COVID vaccine because a woman, a person died.
00:16:56.000Other people were facing life-threatening complications.
00:17:01.000It was already made out of abortive fetal stem cells, so the pro-life movement didn't even support the Johnson-Johnson vaccine.
00:17:06.000The same exact day, the FDA came out and said, we know about 24 women have died from chemical abortion pills.
00:17:14.000But we're going to let Planned Parenthood continue as they've been doing during COVID using COVID as an excuse to give out, dispense the abortion pill via webcam, via the mail, without testing and no-test abortion.
00:17:26.000So you don't even have to confirm you're pregnant before you have a chemical abortion.
00:17:29.000If you are pregnant and have an etomic pregnancy, when the child is lodged in the phlobian tube, it can kill a woman.
00:17:36.000You only have to test to see if you're RH negative, meaning if you have an abortion, you're RH negative, your blood type is RH negative, you will never be able to carry another child to term.
00:17:44.000The FDA doesn't give anything about that.
00:17:47.000They stopped the Johnson-Johnson vaccine because one person died and other people were seriously injured.
00:17:53.000And then in the same day, they turned around and said, yeah, well, access Trump safety.
00:17:57.000So let's talk about the incentive structure.
00:18:00.000The abortion industry is one where a lot of people make a lot of money.
00:18:33.000They get money through, President Trump had the Protect Life Rule, which was one of the most significant pro-life victories that banned Planned Parenthood from receiving family planning funds and said it's not fair if a woman goes into a family planning clinic that there's an abortion facility right nearby.
00:18:48.000And you're basically using these funds to sell your other procedure that you're charging her for.
00:18:54.000The Biden administration is already saying they're going to expand Title 10 funding for Planned Parenthood.
00:19:10.000You can ask Roo any question and then it can connect you to a medical professional.
00:19:14.000If you're, you know, if any question about sexuality, abortion, pregnancy, LGBTQ, transgender, which by the way, Planned Parents is the second largest distributor of transgender hormone replacement, whatever.
00:19:25.000Yeah, of course, because they make money.
00:19:26.000That's why they've been cozing up to the homosexual lobby for so many years.
00:19:31.000But Planned Parenthood, they meet your child at school.
00:19:34.000They teach the sex ed, offer to teach sex ed because they know the earlier they can have your young person, the young person in your life, get sexually active, the more they're going to come to Planned Parenthood for birth control, IUDs, which are carcinogenic, ST tests, which, by the way, they only treat 18% of STDs they diagnose.
00:19:52.000They always talk about how they treat STDs.
00:19:54.000Only 18% of STDs they diagnose do they actually treat.
00:19:58.000But their goal is to get her in the door as many times as possible.
00:20:01.000And then when she becomes pregnant, when the birth control fails, which birth control has a 9% annual failure rate, condoms have an 18% annual failure rate, then they know she's going to come back to them.
00:20:11.000I have a friend who operates several abortion facilities in Dallas, Carol.
00:20:15.000And Carol has said publicly for years that her goal when she ran her four abortion facilities, she had four or five abortion facilities there in the Dallas metro area, that they wanted four abortions for every woman in Dallas.
00:20:42.000I mean, think about Planned Parenthood is supposed to be this healthcare clinic that every single year nets hundreds of millions of dollars in profit.
00:20:51.000And now they turn around and they're one of the biggest lobbying forces in Washington, D.C.
00:20:56.000And they lead the charge on all of the messaging when it comes to promoting abortion and quote-unquote abortion rights in our country.
00:21:03.000It's Planned Parenthood, it's the independent abortionists.
00:21:06.000And they, you know, fund in turn the politicians who then go to Washington, D.C., fight for them, and fund them with more taxpayer dollars.
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00:23:01.000I guess what you're saying is we need more people to know.
00:23:03.000Yeah, we need to continue to raise awareness about the violence, the cruelty that happens within the abortion facility.
00:23:10.000Women who've been victimized by the abortion industry, they need to continue to talk about their abortions, how abortion never took her out of the poverty that she was living.
00:23:20.000Didn't end the abusive relationship she was living in.
00:23:23.000In fact, only allowed it to go on longer.
00:23:25.000And so we need women to continue to speak out.
00:23:28.000Science and technology has actually been incredibly helpful to the pro-life movement.
00:23:33.000The ultrasound, you know, the whole, you know, window to the womb.
00:23:37.000You cannot deny the humanity of the child.
00:23:40.000And we've all seen our brothers and sisters and nieces and nephews, sons and daughters via ultrasound.
00:23:46.000And you cannot deny that what is inside of that mother is not a unique whole living human being.
00:23:53.000I think for our generation, the biggest challenge we have in the pro-life movement right now is a branding challenge of the label pro-life.
00:24:01.000I actually use the label anti-abortion a lot more than I use pro-life because a lot of times people are like, I don't know what pro-life is, or they have a preconceived notion of what pro-life is.
00:24:11.000I am totally fine saying I'm anti-abortion.
00:24:13.000Sometimes people are like, no, you want to be positive.
00:24:21.000And the thing is, we have to say the word abortion, Charlie, because it doesn't matter how someone calls themselves pro-life or pro-choice.
00:24:28.000Number three, top three things people think about when they hear the word abortion are death-killing sadness, the top of the mind.
00:24:38.000And so it's good to say abortion because that makes people uncomfortable.
00:24:41.000We lose when we, you know, let them hide behind freedom of choice and these other euphemisms.
00:24:47.000But I think we have a branding problem in the movement.
00:24:49.000And I think what we've been doing in the pro-life generation and young people across the country of saying, look, we need to do a better job of talking about what resources we have available in a post-Roe world.
00:25:00.000The fact that there are 8,000 fairly qualified health centers.
00:25:03.000There's more than 3,000 pregnancy resource centers and maternity homes across the country.
00:25:07.000That we are the ones in the pro-life movement advocating for foster care reform, adoption laws in our state capitals.
00:26:25.000If someone gave me a billion dollars to end abortion today, I was saying this earlier, 900 million of it, I would put into marketing.
00:26:32.000It's actually pretty simple because no one actually ever wants abortion.
00:26:35.000When you're standing in front of a Planned Parenthood on a Saturday morning praying or witnessing to women, no one is ever excited to walk into that abortion facility.
00:26:43.000Say, oh, I'm just exercising my reproductive rights or my choice.
00:26:47.000Everyone is sad because that is the place of no hope.
00:26:59.000So if you think about the pro-life movement, starting in the 80s, the pro-life movement set up what's called pregnancy resource centers, pregnancy help centers, crisis pregnancy centers.
00:27:09.000We have like three different acronyms for these.
00:27:11.000But we have over 3,000 across the country today that are pregnancy resource centers, as well as maternity homes.
00:27:18.000Now, these are homes where women can go and live with their children, their other children, as well as when they're pregnant.
00:27:25.000They usually can live in the homes till the child they give birth to is one or two.
00:27:29.000We also have transitional homes for parents who still aren't up on their feet and need help.
00:27:35.000And those maternity homes provide job skill training and all those resources.
00:27:39.000But if a woman is pregnant in Dallas today, there are a number of amazing pregnancy centers I know of in Dallas she can walk into.
00:27:48.000And those women at the center who are volunteer for the most part, all volunteer, they will do everything possible to walk alongside her throughout the crisis of the pregnancy to get her out of the crisis to walk with her until she delivers and then after she delivers.
00:28:03.000If she wants to put it up for adoption or whatever.
00:28:06.000If she wants to place her child with an adoptive family, absolutely, they have the connections to help her walk her through that.
00:28:14.000That incredibly brave and self-sacrificial choice.
00:28:17.000But these are centers that do that and they're for free.
00:28:46.000We're knocking door by door and neighborhoods surrounding abortion facilities, educating people about the terror that's going in the abortion facilities and about the pregnancy centers.
00:28:56.000And none of the neighbors know the pregnancy centers even exist.
00:29:00.000The other place you can go to is findahealthcenter.hirsa, h-r-s-a.gov.
00:29:19.000These are community health clinics that the government already currently funds.
00:29:23.000They serve 21 million men, women, and children.
00:29:26.000They provide every single medical service that Planned Parenthood provides, plus way more services.
00:29:32.000I actually go to an FQHC back in Pittsburgh because I live in a rural neighborhood.
00:29:36.000They serve rural and urban underserved neighborhoods.
00:29:40.000And if you go to one of their centers and you need a medical service or a specialist that they don't have, they're actually legally obligated to make sure you get to a medical health center.
00:29:49.000If every single Planned Parenthood in America would shut down tomorrow, which is one of my objectives, these federally qualified health centers would only have to see two more patients per week.
00:31:03.000And these are pro-life competitors in a good way to Planned Parenthood where their whole setup for women that are pregnant and they're like, come to us, we're going to help you.
00:31:12.000And most people, just so you know, don't even know they exist.
00:31:17.000Our own polling that I was mentioning earlier, we polled on pregnancy centers.
00:31:21.000And we said, if you had a friend who is in a crisis pregnancy who didn't want to have an abortion, would you know where to send her?
00:31:26.000Less than two out of 10 knew that there was like an alternative.
00:31:29.000And by the way, if you're pregnant and you go to Planned Parenthood, there's like only one thing they can help you with, and that is an abortion.
00:31:37.00094, 96% of pregnant women who walk in Planned Parents' doors get an abortion.
00:31:43.000I went into Planned Parenthood several times when I was pregnant with my first child.
00:31:47.000They literally couldn't even offer me prenatal vitamins.
00:31:51.000They didn't even, I said, oh, what if I decide to keep this fetus?
00:31:54.000Like, what kind of, you know, OB care?
00:32:13.000So David DeLeiden founded a group, Center for Medical Progress.
00:32:17.000He went undercover for several years in the abortion industry and actually got an abortionist here in Phoenix on the record talking about crushing skulls.
00:32:25.000But he posed as a person who is setting up a fetal tissue stem cell bank where he was going to buy the children that are aborted.
00:32:34.000And this is actually something that the abortion industry doesn't want anyone to know.
00:32:38.000They have a major problem in that they don't know how to dispose of all the bodies that they kill.
00:32:43.000That's why they love chemical abortions because they tell a woman, just go home, sell in a toilet, don't flush.
00:33:00.000So David got Planned Parenthood's chief medical officer on tape negotiating rates.
00:33:07.000You know, Planned Parenthood is getting paid by the government and by her to kill a child.
00:33:12.000And then they were turning around, negotiating the rate with who they thought was this vendor to sell the broken bodies of children they aborted.
00:33:21.000And then she was Deb New Gatola, the head medical director of Planned Parenthood, was then like talking about how she would alter the late-term abortion procedure to keep the fetus more intact because there were certain pieces of tissue that he needed.
00:33:34.000And he went around, he went to the National Abortion Federation, which is like the union of the abortionists, and got films are there.
00:33:53.000Kamala Harris's attorney general raided his one-bedroom apartment with like nine agents with guns to take his server, his computer, all this stuff.
00:34:03.000Now, the videos are still out there, though, somewhere, right?
00:34:37.000So the argument against David in California is that the NAF National Abortion Federation conference and some of the conversations that he had with a Planned Parenthood facility workers, like the one with the abortionist in Pasadena, was saying she wanted a Lamborghini.
00:34:54.000Those were filmed in California, which is a two-party consent state.
00:34:57.000And so therefore, if you publicize it or whatever.
00:35:45.000I think that majority of women who have abortions, they'll tell the abortion vendor they're having the abortion because they lack partner support.
00:37:08.000And that means you have to speak up, whether it's like you listen to my podcast and get all the facts and then regurgitate it on your Facebook page later.
00:37:16.000You speak up in your church or your parish.
00:37:19.000I mean, I can't tell you if every Christian church in America acted like abortion was actually the violence and murder it really is, we would not have abortion.
00:37:28.000The majority of women who seek abortions say they've gone to church at least once in the past month.
00:38:18.000And it's now manifested itself because in 1860, in 1760, in 1660, the technology was not what it is today to be able to mechanize the destruction and the death of a million people every single year.
00:39:40.000So they say, Charlie, I agree with you on the abortion thing, but how could you also be pro-life and want stricter immigration or want more police?
00:39:51.000And I say, okay, every position I have is a pro-life position.
00:39:55.000It's about the welfare of the human being, every single position.
00:39:58.000So I want stricter immigration because it's happening on the southern border when women are getting raped when they cross the southern border, when they give birth control to 12-year-olds because they're likely to be kidnapped by cartel members.
00:40:10.000No, that's why I want stricter immigration.
00:40:13.000I also care about the welfare of my fellow countrymen.
00:40:15.000I want more police on the streets of Chicago because that means more people are going to live and not get shot on the way to school.
00:40:22.000I want school choice because I know that's going to result in a better life for human beings.
00:40:28.000Every position I have is a pro-life position, including my position on markets.
00:40:32.000So markets have been the best way to improve human flourishing and well-being.
00:40:39.000Now, with that being said, I do not believe in markets the way I believe in my religion.
00:41:10.000Founding fathers understood this, life, liberty, and private property, not pursuit of happiness.
00:41:14.000It was originally life, liberty, private property, as John Locke wrote it.
00:41:17.000It's because the Bible talks about this very clearly, your capacity to be able to own something is an extension of your consciousness, an extension of who you are, to be able to accumulate wealth, to be able to provide for your family.
00:41:33.000It says in the scriptures very clearly, a man does not work, he does not eat.
00:41:37.000And this is the best way to abolish poverty.
00:41:39.000It's the best way to lift people up from their current socioeconomic circumstances.
00:41:43.000And my belief system very clearly is that a socialist, communist, collectivist viewpoint, which is now happening very quickly, is directly tied together to the dehumanization movement of abortion.
00:41:55.000I love human beings so much, I believe that they're better than getting a government check.
00:42:31.000I think that there should be assistance.
00:42:33.000I just want it to be a safety net, not a hammock.
00:42:35.000And I believe that we have a whole culture of government dependency.
00:42:38.000But in your view, and this is for your listeners to think about, if deep down they're thinking themselves, I don't think they can make it.
00:42:46.000I don't think, I think that I think so lowly of that person in New York City that they, I must provide them a government subsidized check, that leads to abortion before you could ever believe.
00:42:58.000Because what you're really saying is that I don't actually think they can break out of their current circumstances.
00:43:03.000What you and I believe is actually the highest fulfillment and the flourishing of human beings.
00:43:08.000And that's a holistic pro-life stance.
00:44:01.000That's how we're going to get rid of abortion.
00:44:03.000And so I love markets because I love human beings.
00:44:06.000I love freedom because I care about the moral good of every human being that's right now in the womb that's getting crushed.
00:44:12.000No, the only way for them to be able to live a full life as Christ commanded us is if the government protects the freedoms that God grants them.