The Charlie Kirk Show - December 05, 2025


Redistricting Wins Wars


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In this episode of The Charlie Kirk Show, host Charlie talks about the importance of Redistricting in the upcoming election cycle, and why it will be a game changer for both parties in the midterms and beyond.

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00:01:09.000 Hello, happy Friday.
00:01:11.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:12.000 We're going to be talking all about redistricting in this first hour.
00:01:18.000 This is a big passion of Charlie's throughout this year, and it's going to be a very important topic for all of 2026 and beyond.
00:01:27.000 We have, we got something very special.
00:01:30.000 We got a very special opportunity for our country last November, and that opportunity was a trifecta in government.
00:01:36.000 It was a House majority, a Senate majority, and the White House.
00:01:40.000 That is, in these days, it's basically what you need to get anything done in Washington.
00:01:46.000 And we fought very hard for that.
00:01:48.000 And if you lose even one part of that, possibly the House, it greatly limits what a president is able to do, what is plausible for you to do.
00:01:56.000 And so we have to be looking ahead to the 2026 elections.
00:02:00.000 And what's so useful about President Trump, what has made him such a formidable political figure, is he's very good at poking up against a lot of things that are just traditionally done in Washington and saying, wait, why are we doing that?
00:02:16.000 Why aren't we seizing a bigger advantage?
00:02:19.000 We say this country is in a big state of crisis because it is.
00:02:22.000 We've talked about the border.
00:02:24.000 We've talked about the foreign wars we're enmeshed in.
00:02:26.000 We've talked about the rapid decline of a lot of things in American life that need big resolutions.
00:02:31.000 So if the state of the nation is in a crisis, are you going to treat it like a crisis?
00:02:36.000 And President Trump has looked at that and said, okay, it's a crisis.
00:02:39.000 We should try to get political wins.
00:02:42.000 And one of the most obvious is he looks at the House map and says, well, okay, they say we could draw House maps to win more seats for our party.
00:02:53.000 It's legal to do that. 0.66
00:02:55.000 It's not a violation of democracy in any way.
00:02:59.000 Why aren't we doing that?
00:03:00.000 And Trump is the one who finally had that light bulb moment.
00:03:03.000 Wait, we should do it.
00:03:05.000 And so throughout this year, we've seen campaigning in red states around the country, in Texas, in Florida, and we're going to be covering Indiana in just a moment here, where we look at a map and say, well, okay, if we were to move these districts around, instead of having 60% of House seats, we could have 65, 70, 75% of the House seats in this state.
00:03:29.000 And we know Democrats already do this.
00:03:31.000 They've done it in New York.
00:03:32.000 They did it just this last cycle.
00:03:34.000 They've done it in Maryland.
00:03:35.000 They've done it in California.
00:03:37.000 They call it nonpartisan districting, yet they found a magical way to make it incredibly partisan how many Democrats are in California's seats.
00:03:45.000 And so President Trump looked at that and said, we should behave the same way because if we lose the House in 2026, we're going to get a new order in Washington where it's going to be endless subpoenas, endless investigations, probably endless impeachments.
00:04:00.000 You know, why not go for a third, a fourth, a fifth, a 10th impeachment of Donald Trump?
00:04:04.000 Just impeach him every single week.
00:04:05.000 Impeach him every single day.
00:04:06.000 They would love to do that.
00:04:08.000 It would be a distraction from the things we need to do for the country.
00:04:11.000 And it would mean no more reduxes on the big beautiful bill.
00:04:15.000 No more, no more passing anything.
00:04:17.000 Let's say Trump wins over Republicans to getting rid of the filibuster.
00:04:20.000 Well, if you don't have the House, you still can't pass legislation because Democrats can block it.
00:04:25.000 So we've been fighting to change House seats to get more Republican seats so that we have more of a potential margin in these upcoming midterms.
00:04:34.000 We'll be having Ken Paxton on.
00:04:36.000 He had a big win, a very important win for the state of Texas.
00:04:39.000 Texas lawmakers got their ducks in a row.
00:04:42.000 They passed a new map that looks like it should be able to deliver Republicans four or five extra seats in the House of Representatives.
00:04:50.000 Now, that was very predictably blocked by a federal court judge who said, actually, you can't do that.
00:04:59.000 Democrats are allowed to do it, but you're not allowed to do it, basically.
00:05:02.000 But the Supreme Court yesterday struck that back and said, nope, Texas's maps are good to go for this election.
00:05:08.000 And we're going to talk to Ken Paxton about how that happened and what we'll have moving forward.
00:05:15.000 But there's still unfinished business.
00:05:17.000 And one of the biggest sources of unfinished business is in Indiana.
00:05:22.000 In Indiana, we've had more difficulty, unfortunately.
00:05:26.000 There, you're not going to get as big of a win, but you have a state that is very Republican, one of the most Republican states in the country, but they have a House map that has carved out safe seats for Democrats.
00:05:38.000 It would be doable in the state of Indiana to make a fully Republican state.
00:05:44.000 And just so far, they have chosen not to do this.
00:05:48.000 And so we're putting pressure on them to change their minds.
00:05:53.000 Charlie's point of view was always we should have state lawmakers and federal lawmakers who are as conservative as the voters that they represent.
00:06:03.000 And if you talk to rank and file Republicans in Indiana, conservatives in Indiana, Trump voters in Indiana, they want to have a House majority that can enact what President Trump ran on in 2024.
00:06:17.000 And if they can redo their House maps in order to do that, they will support that.
00:06:23.000 If they can do that, they want it to happen.
00:06:26.000 And so I think we reasonably believe rank-and-file voters in Indiana want a new house map.
00:06:33.000 Yet, state Republicans have so far declined to do that.
00:06:37.000 They've come up with excuses for why it can't happen, why they're failing to do it, why they're refusing to do it.
00:06:43.000 And so we have a story in Politico today that turning point action, we've always said we are going to put pressure on Republicans to reform themselves.
00:06:52.000 And so we are prepared to back primary challengers to Republicans who are not willing to assist the president by redoing our house maps.
00:07:06.000 And let me get this up.
00:07:07.000 I know Andrew was just sending it to me.
00:07:10.000 Do we have Andrew, by the way?
00:07:12.000 Yes, you do.
00:07:13.000 I'm here.
00:07:13.000 We have him.
00:07:14.000 Oh, we've had him.
00:07:15.000 Andrew, welcome.
00:07:16.000 Welcome from Mar-a-Lago.
00:07:18.000 Andrew, I was just telling them about this politico story that we're taking action in Indiana.
00:07:23.000 Yes, we are.
00:07:24.000 It's a huge deal.
00:07:25.000 We have a big rally today.
00:07:26.000 So that's happening right now.
00:07:28.000 Turning point action is at the Capitol in Indiana.
00:07:30.000 And Blake, this is one of these dynamics that is really, I think, going, you're going to see it shift.
00:07:35.000 Yeah, we still have to keep a focus on, you know, the swing states.
00:07:40.000 That's what you got to do to win a national election.
00:07:42.000 But what I have observed, what Charlie knew, was that the fact that we had spent so much time in swing stakes is sometimes these solid red, predictably red states have not gotten enough attention, especially nationally.
00:07:55.000 And what happens when you see that dynamic play out is that the voting public, the grassroots, the base begins to sometimes get out of alignment with their elected people, right?
00:08:06.000 You have incumbent political machines, you have incumbent elected leaders that just sort of stay entrenched.
00:08:11.000 And so you get this Bush-era early 2000s conservatism in a MAGA world where Trump is the president and there's a misalignment.
00:08:18.000 And so when President Trump says, hey, let's get these maps so that we're more competitive in 2026, you see senators in the state of Indiana that are standing in the way.
00:08:28.000 And so this is a rally to say, listen, the base is on board.
00:08:31.000 The grassroots is on board.
00:08:32.000 The president's on board.
00:08:34.000 Many, many organizations, C4s, PACs across the board are on board to get this done.
00:08:39.000 We see the importance.
00:08:40.000 And we're going to, you mentioned your audio was cutting in and out for me, but I heard you mentioned Texas.
00:08:45.000 We're going to have Ken Paxton on with a huge win on the Texas redistricting maps.
00:08:51.000 But we have to all be rowing in the same direction.
00:08:53.000 And so when you see senators, for whatever reason, whether it's because Trump used a naughty word and he didn't like it or whatever the reason is that they want to give, we have 40 Republican senators in the Hoosier state.
00:09:06.000 We only need 26.
00:09:07.000 So, you know, this is something we should be able to get done, Blake.
00:09:10.000 And this is the message we're sending.
00:09:12.000 It said, hey, get on board, or we're going to use the levers at our disposal at turning point action.
00:09:18.000 We're going to align with other groups that are like-minded within the Trump ecosystem to primary you if you don't get on board.
00:09:26.000 And that's politics.
00:09:27.000 It's not personal.
00:09:28.000 This is just simply politics.
00:09:29.000 It's what Charlie would say.
00:09:30.000 We need Republicans as conservative as the people who elected them.
00:09:34.000 Bingo.
00:09:35.000 Bingo.
00:09:36.000 Absolutely right.
00:09:37.000 And that's what we're committed to.
00:09:38.000 And, you know, honestly, our people are ready for this.
00:09:43.000 They're excited about a new challenge like this.
00:09:45.000 And so bring it on, Indiana.
00:09:47.000 We hope you get on board.
00:09:48.000 There's still time to do it, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen.
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00:11:01.000 So Blake got it.
00:11:04.000 The event is just getting started in Indiana, and it's amazing.
00:11:08.000 I guess like MSNBC, now called MS Now, is covering it, and they're very upset about it.
00:11:12.000 And so I'm getting that clip in just a second.
00:11:14.000 It's going to be great.
00:11:15.000 They're very, very upset that we could be pushing forward with a redistricting plan in Indiana.
00:11:21.000 But you got to check this energy out.
00:11:23.000 This energy is amazing.
00:11:25.000 390, Brett Galaszewski, our national enterprise director at Turning Point Action, is kicking things off 390.
00:11:33.000 You cannot afford to give power back to Nakeem Jeffries, AOC, Alan Omar, and all the radical leftists that will stop our ability to make this country great.
00:11:46.000 Yeah, and so Blake, I mean, I'm told the energy in the room is like through the roof, and that on MS Now, you can barely hear the reporter over the roars of the rally in that state house.
00:11:58.000 That's great.
00:11:59.000 That's great.
00:11:59.000 You know, when we tell you the grassroots is fired up, they are fired up.
00:12:03.000 They want to get wins.
00:12:04.000 We see this so often.
00:12:05.000 We saw this with a lot of our discussion this week over the Heg Seth and the boat drama where you have some Republicans that say, oh, we might need this investigation of this whole thing.
00:12:17.000 We might have to spend weeks, maybe two years investigating this.
00:12:20.000 And then the response from the people who email us, Freedom at Charlie Kirk, is overwhelmingly, no, I support them taking out drug boats.
00:12:28.000 I support them being able to execute their agenda.
00:12:32.000 I definitely don't want Republicans getting in the way of something that, reminder, we ran on.
00:12:39.000 And I think it's the same thing with this.
00:12:41.000 The rank and file would say, we want our side to win and to get wins.
00:12:46.000 Why would we not do things that get us wins?
00:12:50.000 Well, you mentioned drug boats, Blake, and I just have to give a shout out to our good Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth.
00:13:01.000 He gave a little shout-out yesterday.
00:13:03.000 And so I saw a tweet from Chuck Schumer, and Chuck Schumer said, Pete Hegseth has to resign now.
00:13:12.000 And I replied to Chuck Schumer.
00:13:13.000 I said, every new attack aimed at Pete Hegseth makes me want another narco drug boat blown up and sent to the bottom of the ocean.
00:13:21.000 And as if it was like Christmas morning, Secretary of War, Pete Hegseth, replied to yours truly and said, your wish is our command, Andrew.
00:13:29.000 Just sunk another narco boat. 0.78
00:13:32.000 So, you know, there you go.
00:13:35.000 We have a very responsive administration.
00:13:38.000 The feedback loop is working.
00:13:40.000 And you guys tell us that you are supportive of the immigration moratorium. 0.75
00:13:44.000 When you guys tell us that you are in support of President Trump blowing up these narco boats before they can deliver poison to our shores, when you guys tell us that you're actually pretty supportive of this forward-facing, more, I would say, aggressive posture when it comes to the Western hemisphere, we communicate that back. 0.99
00:14:03.000 The feedback loop is working.
00:14:04.000 It's alive and well.
00:14:05.000 That was something Charlie was really good at.
00:14:07.000 That's something we want to be really good at.
00:14:09.000 So please keep sending your emails.
00:14:10.000 What do you want to see get accomplished?
00:14:12.000 What do you want to see get done in this country?
00:14:13.000 Freedom at CharlieKirk.com, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:14:16.000 We're listening.
00:14:17.000 Blake literally spends the entire show, and I spend large chunks of the show looking at that inbox.
00:14:22.000 So that is a really important touch point for you guys.
00:14:25.000 So what do you think about Indiana?
00:14:26.000 Do you want to see Indiana senators get on board with this?
00:14:30.000 Are you skeptical in some way?
00:14:32.000 I don't know.
00:14:33.000 I would assume you're supportive.
00:14:34.000 And if you are supportive, this is what I want you to do.
00:14:37.000 If the team could put the URL up on the bottom, so we have a URL, tpaction.com forward slash act Indiana.
00:14:46.000 So again, that's tpaction.com forward slash act Indiana.
00:14:50.000 You can send emails.
00:14:51.000 You can send notes.
00:14:53.000 You can send this to your friends in Indiana if you're listening in Indiana.
00:14:56.000 I know Citizen Free Press could probably blast this out if he's listening.
00:15:02.000 That we want as many people sounding the alarm, raising their voices and saying that we, the grassroots, demand action.
00:15:09.000 We demand counteroffensive against the Democrats' power grab.
00:15:13.000 If this was happening in a blue state, they would absolutely do it.
00:15:17.000 Look what they did in California.
00:15:18.000 Look what the New England area is basically blue.
00:15:21.000 There's conservatives up there.
00:15:22.000 It doesn't matter.
00:15:23.000 There's no congressional representation if you're conservative.
00:15:26.000 We absolutely have to get this done.
00:15:27.000 And here's the last thing I'll say.
00:15:29.000 And Blake, I'll give you the last minute.
00:15:30.000 Charlie was big on this, huge on the redistricting fight, which is why we had Ken Paxton booked this morning after his big win at the Supreme Court.
00:15:39.000 This was something he was absolutely committed to, and this was something he was messaging on in the final days before he was taken from us far too soon.
00:15:47.000 Exactly.
00:15:48.000 Charlie was a fighter.
00:15:50.000 Charlie was a guy who always wanted to be in the trenches.
00:15:54.000 He would always want to ask, what can I do to help meaningfully to change things?
00:15:58.000 It's very easy to, it's very easy to talk.
00:16:01.000 It's very easy to tweet.
00:16:03.000 It's very easy to have an opinion on issues.
00:16:06.000 Charlie would say, what can we actually do to get wins on the board?
00:16:10.000 Whether that was in legislation, whether it's in elections, whether it is laws we can change.
00:16:15.000 One of my favorite Charlie moments was when he went out to Nebraska to try to get them to change their electoral vote map.
00:16:20.000 Another, a thing that should still happen, a thing we have not forgotten about.
00:16:24.000 We are going to keep nagging you, Nebraska, about this.
00:16:28.000 But Charlie would say, pick up your political wins at the state level.
00:16:31.000 Make your red states red.
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00:17:39.000 So I am very, very excited about this conversation.
00:17:41.000 This was a really big win.
00:17:42.000 It was what we were talking about in the first few segments.
00:17:45.000 We want to see wins on the board.
00:17:47.000 And Attorney General of the great state of Texas, Ken Paxton, joins us now.
00:17:51.000 Welcome, sir.
00:17:52.000 We're grateful to have you.
00:17:54.000 Well, thanks for having me.
00:17:55.000 It is a big win, and it's like an early Christmas present, not just to the state of Texas, but the entire country.
00:18:01.000 Yeah, absolutely.
00:18:02.000 So this went all the way up to the Supreme Court.
00:18:06.000 I mean, we don't have to get into the legal weeds here, but they granted an emergency stay, correct?
00:18:11.000 So this had been blocked by a federal judge.
00:18:16.000 And then so you took it from there, and that's how we got the big win last night.
00:18:21.000 Yeah, so we were sued of our maps, which we always are.
00:18:23.000 They claimed it was based on race.
00:18:26.000 We said, no, it's political, just like all these other Democratic states around the country that are gerrymandering based on political points of view.
00:18:34.000 And we had a three-judge panel rule against us 2-1, arguing that because there was some letter from DOJ that it was based on race, we said no.
00:18:42.000 Our legislature had no intent.
00:18:44.000 It was all based on political considerations.
00:18:49.000 And that's the truth.
00:18:50.000 And when we lost at the lower court level with the three-judge panel, we appealed to the U.S. Supreme Court directly.
00:18:58.000 And fortunately, we got a stay, which means that the original court, the three-judge panel, had put a stay on our maps, and it threw our primary into chaos because our filing deadline ends December 8th.
00:19:09.000 It's been open since November 8th.
00:19:11.000 So it would have been really crazy trying to figure out what happens next if the three-judge panel had gotten their way.
00:19:16.000 And fortunately, the U.S. Supreme Court blocked it, saying a couple of things.
00:19:20.000 One is they hadn't shown enough evidence of any race-based decisions.
00:19:24.000 And two, A federal court was now interfering with state elections at a very late, very late in the game.
00:19:32.000 And so they blocked that block.
00:19:35.000 And so now we can go forward, at least for 2026, we can go forward with these maps and hopefully we'll resolve this over the next year and we'll be able to keep the maps for at least the next two elections.
00:19:45.000 That's great news, huge news, especially after the news out of California.
00:19:50.000 So it was basically a wash if you look at it that way.
00:19:53.000 I have to have, just have to ask, are there any remaining legal challenges the Dems can mount to block this, at least for 2026?
00:20:02.000 Well, the good thing is we went to the highest court and it was our request.
00:20:05.000 There's nowhere for them to go on this appeal.
00:20:08.000 They can fight the maps in future elections, 2028 and 230, which I expect they will.
00:20:14.000 But I feel pretty confident we're going to win in the long run.
00:20:17.000 It's just we have to go through the process of actually having the actual case on the merits.
00:20:21.000 And that's just for the future to deal with.
00:20:23.000 But for now, these maps should be set for the 2026 elections because our primary is March 3rd and early voting starts February 17th.
00:20:31.000 So if we had been thrown off and had to open filing back up and use the old maps, it would have been delayed for months and months and months.
00:20:40.000 Wow.
00:20:41.000 So maybe just help.
00:20:43.000 So there's this issue of precedent.
00:20:45.000 I know this particular case was not about racial gerrymandering that we've heard so much about.
00:20:53.000 Explain how significant this win is, I think politically, but also legally.
00:20:59.000 And is there an effort maybe in the future to set legal precedent that we can't have these racially gerrymandered maps?
00:21:07.000 Yeah, I mean, legally, it's important because we were able to establish this as political.
00:21:11.000 I mean, we have Democratic and politically important because all these Democratic states have been doing this for years and years and years.
00:21:16.000 I think the entire New England state delegation is all Democrat.
00:21:21.000 They've gerrymandered.
00:21:22.000 They've done it.
00:21:23.000 They've gotten away with it.
00:21:24.000 It's been accepted.
00:21:25.000 The Republican states have not done that.
00:21:27.000 We're finally stepping up to the plate and getting it done.
00:21:30.000 Our legislature did a great job in putting these maps forward.
00:21:33.000 And our entire state leadership team was behind it, including the governor.
00:21:38.000 And so I think if we're going to have a fair playing field, we in Republican states need to be able to do exactly what the Democrats have done.
00:21:47.000 And that's exactly what happened in Texas.
00:21:48.000 And hopefully Indiana and Missouri and other states can follow.
00:21:51.000 If we don't, we're playing on a very unfavorable playing field where the Democrats gerrymander based on political considerations.
00:21:58.000 And we just stay on the sidelines and let them win the House.
00:22:01.000 Yeah, I mean, I think I speak for all this audience where we're just super grateful for your dogged pursuit of this, Mr. Attorney General.
00:22:08.000 You have done a fantastic job pursuing this and being dogged.
00:22:12.000 But there is this memory I had.
00:22:14.000 As soon as I saw this news report last night about these Texas Democrats who fled the state when this whole process was unfolding, could you just remind us, you know, has any have any of them been held accountable?
00:22:28.000 How did that resolve itself?
00:22:30.000 Or is it not resolved?
00:22:31.000 It's still unresolved.
00:22:32.000 We're still in, that just takes time.
00:22:35.000 But we went after them.
00:22:36.000 First of all, we went after Bet O'Rourke, who was funding the whole thing through a private charity.
00:22:41.000 And so we started investigating him.
00:22:43.000 We were able to get an injunction to stop him from paying because he was funding it all.
00:22:47.000 He was paying for their fines.
00:22:49.000 There was a daily fine.
00:22:50.000 He was paying for their hotel rooms.
00:22:52.000 He was paying for their meals and their transportation.
00:22:54.000 We got an injunction.
00:22:55.000 As soon as we got an injunction to stop him from paying out of this charity, then they came back.
00:23:00.000 So it was, I think, important to stop the funding.
00:23:02.000 Now we're dealing with the consequences of whether these legislators are going to be punished under state law for abdicating their responsibility.
00:23:11.000 We're trying to get some of them removed for leaving the state when they were supposed to be in the state voting.
00:23:16.000 That's still up to the courts.
00:23:18.000 We're going to continue to pursue that until it's over.
00:23:21.000 Good.
00:23:22.000 I'm glad to hear that because I think we need to ensure accountability when people are being lawless in all cases.
00:23:28.000 So switching over to politics a little bit.
00:23:31.000 And by the way, your website, you're running for Senate in the state of Texas, kenpaxton.com.
00:23:38.000 I believe I got that right.
00:23:39.000 Pretty easy one.
00:23:41.000 Kenpaxton.com.
00:23:43.000 And, you know, so there's political questions.
00:23:45.000 And this is not necessarily relevant for your statewide race, but is there any concern in the state of Texas that these new maps are going to be, I guess, maybe too tightly drawn, that if we see a pullback of Hispanic support in future races, that we might be actually jeopardizing some of these gains?
00:24:06.000 Yeah, you never know.
00:24:07.000 I mean, the future is always unknown, right?
00:24:10.000 So we don't know with certainty how elections are going to turn out.
00:24:13.000 We certainly have to continue to send our message to not just Hispanics, but all voters that the type of Republican politics of low taxes, border control, protecting the border, giving opportunity for everyone to do well in Texas by creating opportunity instead of taxation and regulation and allowing small business owners to create jobs, that that message will continue to resonate with our voters.
00:24:38.000 It has in the past.
00:24:39.000 People have fleed other Democratic states, including California, New York, Illinois.
00:24:44.000 Name the Democratic state that people aren't leaving to come to Republican states.
00:24:47.000 So people are voting with their feet.
00:24:49.000 I envision that helping Republican states.
00:24:51.000 We're going to grow both wealth and with population.
00:24:55.000 And in the end, I think it's going to benefit our voting base and we're going to become stronger, not weaker.
00:25:00.000 Yeah, I actually, you know, something Charlie talked a lot about was how this move to the Sunbelt is changing the electoral math of the United States.
00:25:12.000 And Blake knows this well because he was the one that did the research when we went into winner-take-all, Nebraska, because we were seeing the math.
00:25:17.000 This is only going to continue on as new censuses are done.
00:25:22.000 And frankly, this is unrelated, but Blake would probably agree.
00:25:26.000 We should redo the census.
00:25:27.000 The 2020 census was botched.
00:25:29.000 I think states like Texas would pick up additional seats. 0.99
00:25:32.000 What's your message, sir, to the states like Indiana right now?
00:25:36.000 We have a rally going on, turning point action at the state house rotunda, pushing those senators to pursue this redistricting fight.
00:25:44.000 What's your message to them?
00:25:45.000 You've just had a huge legal win that's going to benefit the entire country.
00:25:49.000 What's your message to these states considering doing the same?
00:25:51.000 I say get in the water.
00:25:52.000 It's warm.
00:25:54.000 We just forged the trail for everyone else.
00:25:56.000 So we know what the results will be if they do it the right way and they do it on political considerations.
00:26:02.000 They're going to win.
00:26:03.000 And they want to even have the controversy that we had.
00:26:05.000 It's already been settled by the U.S. Supreme Court.
00:26:08.000 So I would encourage them to go forward.
00:26:10.000 We need to make this a fair process as fair as we can, given that the Democratic states have already gone down this path and California is trying to add to that.
00:26:19.000 So we might as well play the same game.
00:26:21.000 If we don't play the same game they're playing, we are going to lose.
00:26:24.000 And so it's a simple choice.
00:26:26.000 Do you want to win or lose?
00:26:27.000 We can win just by doing our job of redrawing some of these maps so that we have a chance to have fairness in this country.
00:26:35.000 Yeah, I mean, that's so right.
00:26:37.000 So well said.
00:26:38.000 So well said.
00:26:39.000 We either win or we lose.
00:26:40.000 It really is on this sort of thing, it's that simple, especially because California has already acted.
00:26:47.000 That's what really grates on me about so much of this debate is some people are mad that we that President Trump chose to fight this battle, but the left embraced fighting that battle.
00:26:58.000 They have redrawn their lines in California with their rushed ballot measure there.
00:27:03.000 So at this point, you have just decided if you are sitting out this fight, you have just decided, no, I want to sit out.
00:27:10.000 I want to let us lose.
00:27:11.000 I want to let us get run over. 1.00
00:27:13.000 And that's frankly not just politically stupid. 0.99
00:27:18.000 I would say it's morally indefensible. 0.99
00:27:21.000 I agree.
00:27:22.000 And listen, you've got a big race ahead of you.
00:27:24.000 Give us the state of your Senate race.
00:27:27.000 How are things looking?
00:27:28.000 And how can people support you?
00:27:29.000 Look, I get in April the 8th.
00:27:31.000 We've been up in the polls ever since I got in.
00:27:34.000 We're running against an incumbent who's been in office since I was in college and I'm about to turn 63.
00:27:39.000 And when I go around the state and ask, what has he accomplished?
00:27:42.000 No one has an answer.
00:27:43.000 Not one single accomplishment that's good.
00:27:46.000 We certainly have him fighting Donald Trump on the border wall, constantly voting for amnesty, spending his time not supporting President Trump running for re-election or in 2016.
00:27:57.000 And then, of course, siding with Joe Biden on Second Amendment restrictions.
00:28:00.000 So this is not a Republican that should be re-elected in Texas.
00:28:04.000 And so we just need help financially.
00:28:05.000 KenPaxon.com, they have huge fundraising advantages.
00:28:09.000 We're out raising them in Texas, but the Washington money isn't limited like it is for challengers.
00:28:15.000 We're limited to $7,000 per person, $14,000 a couple.
00:28:19.000 They have special committees that can allow them to leverage literally hundreds of thousands of dollars more.
00:28:24.000 So we need all the help we can get from grassroots supporters.
00:28:27.000 Well, congratulations, Mr. Attorney General, on the huge Supreme Court win.
00:28:33.000 This will ripple across the nation, and it couldn't have come at a better time.
00:28:36.000 We've got this rally in Indiana.
00:28:38.000 We hope that they will find their courage.
00:28:40.000 And as you said, we hope they jump in.
00:28:42.000 The water is warm.
00:28:43.000 Thank you so much for making the time.
00:28:45.000 Hey, have a great Christmas season, and we'll talk to you soon.
00:28:48.000 Thank you.
00:28:49.000 Thank you, sir.
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00:29:54.000 Blake, I have to.
00:29:55.000 I know there's like weird reports swirling about this guy, but I just have to play these two clips because they're just too good.
00:30:01.000 This is Jake Tapper calling the suspected pipe bomber a white man.
00:30:06.000 374.
00:30:07.000 Ryan Cole Jr., a 30-year-old white man from the D.C. suburbs, is charged with transporting an explosive device in interstate commerce and with malicious destruction.
00:30:18.000 Well, you see, it's like whiteness. 0.92
00:30:20.000 You become white by becoming a pipe bomber, basically. 0.88
00:30:23.000 I think that's CNN.
00:30:24.000 Is it because he had glasses on?
00:30:26.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:30:26.000 This is ridiculous. 0.99
00:30:28.000 Definitionally, if he's doing bombings at CNN, he's got to be a white guy. 0.99
00:30:33.000 Even if he's black, he's been infected with some form of whiteness is probably what Jake Tapper meant because he's a criminal because CNN, there's no other option here. 0.73
00:30:47.000 I think it's because he's in a, I don't want to, I don't want to say, I'm going to get myself in trouble. 0.89
00:30:51.000 I just, it's humorous to me how badly these people want to want this man to be white.
00:30:57.000 He just like Freudian slip.
00:30:59.000 He couldn't help it.
00:31:00.000 Blake, this is one of the most rich videos clips that you will ever see in the history of media.
00:31:09.000 387.
00:31:10.000 I gotta tell you, it kind of makes me looking at this crowd doing a victory lap when all the senior FBI officials across all key divisions have been fired for political purposes.
00:31:23.000 When in some field offices, up to 45% of the FBI officers who were doing things like counter-espionage and cyber have been assigned to do immigration cases, it's a little rich that they're saying they're America safer.
00:31:40.000 How much earlier could we have caught this guy if resources hadn't been diverted?
00:31:44.000 It's a little rich, Blake.
00:31:47.000 They could have caught him right away if they hadn't done anything at the FBI.
00:31:52.000 We would have caught him last February if they hadn't shaken up the FBI upon taking over.
00:31:56.000 Huge lack of awareness.
00:31:58.000 They had literally a full four-year term to find him, and they got nowhere with it.
00:32:05.000 And then even in the New York Times reporting, it says the way they were actually able to get it is they shook up the case.
00:32:12.000 They re-looked at old leads.
00:32:14.000 They actually kind of did a whole new push on the case to try to solve it.
00:32:19.000 And they were able to do so.
00:32:21.000 Imagine that.
00:32:22.000 Yeah, well, and so that's the key here.
00:32:24.000 So we, and maybe you, I'll throw it to you, Blake.
00:32:27.000 What do we know about this guy? 0.97
00:32:29.000 You know, it turns out he's a black guy.
00:32:31.000 Yesterday we were hearing reports that he was connected to anarchist movements.
00:32:35.000 There was some reporting, maybe Antifa.
00:32:37.000 What do we know today?
00:32:38.000 So we don't know too much yet.
00:32:40.000 What is being reported is that he has told authorities, or it's been reported that he's told authorities that he was upset about the 2020 elections.
00:32:51.000 So he may have believed there was sort of a conspiracy to take it away from President Trump.
00:32:57.000 Now, if he was leaving pipe bombs at the RNC, he clearly is not blaming only Democrats for this.
00:33:03.000 He may have had a very broad vision of who was to blame for his grievance.
00:33:08.000 But also, if this is just him telling it to authorities now, who knows?
00:33:12.000 It could be, you might already have the case where he would want this to be his statement because he wants to link the case to what else happened in D.C. that day.
00:33:24.000 Because what has already been brought up is President Trump's J-6 pardon was quite broad.
00:33:29.000 It basically just said he is issuing a full pardon for everyone linked to the events around the Capitol on January 6th.
00:33:37.000 So it's inevitable his defense is going to say he's covered by that pardon.
00:33:41.000 This case needs to be dropped immediately.
00:33:43.000 And so it would be useful for him to construct a motive that links to that.
00:33:47.000 We also have some funny information.
00:33:49.000 Just real quick, real quick, I just want to make a note on that image that's up on your screen right now.
00:33:53.000 That's actually his father.
00:33:56.000 I think this is Daily Wire article.
00:33:57.000 They've updated it since with a new image of him.
00:34:00.000 So I just want to be editorially clear.
00:34:03.000 That was the original image, but they've updated it.
00:34:05.000 The image there is actually his father.
00:34:06.000 Yeah, the other image is the one you saw during the tapper clip earlier.
00:34:10.000 But what's also very funny is just because we have a very small world.
00:34:14.000 So this is reported by the Daily Wire that this alleged bomber's family had sued the Trump Department of Homeland Security over illegal immigration-related things.
00:34:26.000 They basically asked the Biden DOJ to arrest, to address alleged racism against them.
00:34:31.000 And the best part is to do this, as you saw in that photo of his father, the other man there was attorney Benjamin Crump, who's practically this forest gump of every racial grievance story in America over the past decade.
00:34:46.000 He was Trayvon Martin's family attorney.
00:34:49.000 He was involved in a lot of BLM stuff.
00:34:51.000 He showed up in the George Floyd extravaganza.
00:34:53.000 He's just been this guy who appears in every one of these cases.
00:34:57.000 And so naturally, he was already involved with the family of the alleged pipe bomber.
00:35:02.000 It's just, it's very...
00:35:04.000 It just shows Ben Krump calling the DOJ to open an investigation into the actions of John Zimmerman.
00:35:10.000 I mean, this is, you know, Ben Crump is a piece of work.
00:35:14.000 They ran a bail bonds company helping, you know, people that were detained by ICE, this suspect and his father.
00:35:21.000 Pretty wild twist to that story.
00:35:23.000 Blake, if you would have given me a thousand bucks to bet on which direction that was going to go or to make up what the suspect would look like, sound like, be involved with, this would not have been on my bingo card.
00:35:35.000 That is a complete surprise.
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