The Charlie Kirk Show - July 16, 2023


Reject Their Terms — LIVE from CLS in Florida


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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, happy Sunday.
00:00:01.000 My conversation, my speech at the Turning Point USA Chapter Leadership Summit.
00:00:05.000 Then I take questions from our amazing chapter leaders.
00:00:08.000 Our chapter leaders are America's last best hope.
00:00:11.000 Get behind them.
00:00:12.000 Support them.
00:00:13.000 Pray for them.
00:00:14.000 tpusa.com.
00:00:15.000 Start a high school chapter, college chapter.
00:00:18.000 These are the people that will stop the American cultural revolution.
00:00:22.000 tpusa.com that is tpusa.com.
00:00:26.000 Buckle up everybody.
00:00:27.000 Here we go.
00:00:28.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:30.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:00:32.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:36.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:39.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:40.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:41.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:00:50.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:00:58.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:02.000 Thank you.
00:01:03.000 Wow, this is by far the largest chapter leadership summit we have ever had.
00:01:07.000 Great to see all of you.
00:01:08.000 Been having a good day.
00:01:10.000 Good.
00:01:11.000 Yeah, well, I want to say thank you guys.
00:01:14.000 I see so many familiar faces.
00:01:16.000 We had a fun year this last year, didn't we, on tour?
00:01:20.000 Raise your hand if I came to a college campus near you.
00:01:22.000 And yeah, it's about half.
00:01:24.000 It's good.
00:01:25.000 From New Mexico to anybody, UC Davis?
00:01:29.000 Where's our UC Davis?
00:01:30.000 Yeah, that was quite a visit.
00:01:33.000 That was terrible.
00:01:35.000 But we survived.
00:01:37.000 And UC Santa Barbara, where's our that was also that was something.
00:01:42.000 And how about Ohio State, the Ohio State University?
00:01:46.000 You don't boo.
00:01:47.000 You don't boo our chapter leaders.
00:01:49.000 You don't do that.
00:01:51.000 Here's Danny doing a great job.
00:01:53.000 You guys are on the front lines.
00:01:55.000 Every day I get asked the question by people that are 30 or 40 years older than you, and they ask me, how can I save the country?
00:02:05.000 What can I do?
00:02:06.000 Some people have private jets, yachts, second or third homes.
00:02:11.000 Now, you are probably like, I want the private jet, the yacht, the second or third home.
00:02:15.000 You should want that stuff.
00:02:16.000 But guess what?
00:02:17.000 You have a thing that millions of people wish they had.
00:02:22.000 And that's you have something you can do every single day to help save the country.
00:02:26.000 You have an action item where you could say, you know what?
00:02:30.000 The country's falling apart.
00:02:32.000 It's collapsing.
00:02:32.000 We're seeing Western civilization basically be stolen from us by some really, really bad people.
00:02:40.000 But you're going to be able to say for the rest of your life that you took your college and high school years and you decided to stand for truth to save the greatest nation ever to exist in the history of the world.
00:02:54.000 And not only that, you give millions of people hope.
00:03:00.000 Literally millions of people.
00:03:02.000 Being part of Turning Point USA, we are the largest organization in the country of its kind.
00:03:08.000 Whether it be on social media, on campus, what we're doing with TPUSA Faith, you are all on the front lines and making a huge difference of that.
00:03:16.000 And we have now over 270,000 people that donate to Turning Point USA that help make this possible, that you guys get to stay in hotels, that you guys get to travel here, that you guys get to have meals.
00:03:28.000 Why do they give money?
00:03:29.000 Why do they give $10?
00:03:31.000 Some people give a lot more than $10 because they're betting on you.
00:03:36.000 Like, I'm a high school kid.
00:03:36.000 Like, what do you mean?
00:03:38.000 I'm a college kid.
00:03:39.000 It's because they know that the great hope to defeat these godless Marxists is joyful, strong conservatives on high school and college campuses pushing back against this Marxist garbage.
00:03:55.000 They're betting on you.
00:03:57.000 They're betting on your engagement, your activism, your recruitment, your courage.
00:04:03.000 That should give you, that should honestly give you some pride in a good way, not the pride that we had in the month of June.
00:04:11.000 Not good.
00:04:12.000 That should give you some gratitude as well.
00:04:15.000 That I'm sure you have a lot of friends that are very upset, neurotic, liberal, but I repeat myself.
00:04:24.000 And they're on the left and they're looking for purpose.
00:04:27.000 You have purpose.
00:04:28.000 You get to be part of a movement that is against everything the world tells you.
00:04:35.000 The world tells you, and that's fun actually when you're young.
00:04:38.000 What does the world tell you?
00:04:39.000 The world tells you your country sucks.
00:04:41.000 We say America's great.
00:04:44.000 The world says that your history is full of white men that you shouldn't study.
00:04:50.000 We believe that our history is beautiful and needs to be understood and passed down to future generations.
00:04:57.000 The world tells you, take any substance you want to take whenever you want to take it, and that will give you happiness.
00:05:04.000 We believe that that's an empty way to live your life.
00:05:07.000 And then if you experiment with that stuff, it's not going to end well for you.
00:05:10.000 And that hopefully one day you'll realize the people that are best at saying no actually are the happiest people in the world.
00:05:17.000 The rest of the world tells you that there is no such thing as biological men or women.
00:05:24.000 We think the trans people are tyrants and zealots and need to be repudiated from decent and civil society.
00:05:35.000 You get to now be part of something that is not just rebellious, but honestly, it's exciting.
00:05:42.000 It's exciting and it should be because you're fighting for things that will honestly decide whether or not this civilization continues.
00:05:50.000 And it all happens in the high schools and the college campuses.
00:05:53.000 You are the left's worst nightmare.
00:05:56.000 If you did not exist, which again, Turning Point USA, it's 11 years old.
00:05:59.000 When we first started, it was like three of us.
00:06:02.000 Not three staff members, like three of us.
00:06:06.000 And now we are a movement where we have 270,000 donors and millions of members and thousands of chapters.
00:06:12.000 And it's like beyond comprehension.
00:06:16.000 And before I go any further, I refuse to take credit for it.
00:06:21.000 You are blessed to have the best staff in the conservative movement that work their tail off to make what you do possible.
00:06:30.000 From the events team, from your regional managers, to your directors, to the people that show up on campus that are relentlessly nagging you.
00:06:38.000 Come on, let's go table.
00:06:39.000 Let's do this event.
00:06:42.000 They deserve your gratitude.
00:06:43.000 And we give you our gratitude as well.
00:06:46.000 And I'll get to that because what you do is very hard.
00:06:48.000 But now you're part of something that is not a question of if it will be.
00:06:52.000 Turning point will be in the history books.
00:06:55.000 Okay?
00:06:56.000 Turning point has already played a massive role over the last decade, is now being this unexpected force that's bigger than all of us to defend the values of Western society and civilization.
00:07:08.000 And we don't know how this story is going to end.
00:07:10.000 We have no idea.
00:07:12.000 Are we going to win or are we going to lose?
00:07:14.000 I have no idea.
00:07:16.000 No idea.
00:07:17.000 But here's what I can say.
00:07:18.000 And here's what you'll be able to say: is we gave it everything we possibly could.
00:07:22.000 And we did not sit on the sidelines as these people decided to try to ruin our home and destroy the country.
00:07:30.000 Because I'm sure you have a lot of friends that are enjoying their summer right now.
00:07:34.000 Losers?
00:07:36.000 You get to be part of something important.
00:07:39.000 And they're going to be complaining to you in October, November when you go back on campus, like, my life is no purpose.
00:07:45.000 Get me more antidepressants, or let's go do another weed, or like, think of weed or whatever.
00:07:50.000 Whatever.
00:07:52.000 And you're like, okay, hopefully you don't engage in that.
00:07:56.000 But you're doing something here at the Turning Point USA Chapter Leadership Summit that is good for your soul.
00:08:06.000 It's good for who you're going to be 20 or 30 years from now.
00:08:11.000 And never before has it been as important as it is to then send all of you back to your high school and college campuses to say that's a bad idea.
00:08:21.000 No, there's only two sexes.
00:08:24.000 No, I'm not going to call you by those pronouns.
00:08:27.000 No, America is actually a great country.
00:08:29.000 No, I'm not going to allow the chemical castration of children.
00:08:34.000 No, George Washington was a badass and I really like him.
00:08:37.000 No, like, I'm not going to go take down a statue because you're offended by history that you don't even understand.
00:08:43.000 No, I'm not going to stop saying that life begins at conception.
00:08:47.000 I'm not going to stop doing that.
00:08:51.000 And if every one of you take that cheerful, joyful attitude back to your campuses, we are going to be in a much better spot.
00:09:00.000 I'm not going to say we're going to save the country because I don't know.
00:09:02.000 We're up against some big forces.
00:09:03.000 You know it, right?
00:09:05.000 But there will always be a remnant.
00:09:08.000 Even if the bad guys win, we're young and we're going to have to live in this country and we're going to build something beautiful.
00:09:14.000 Whether it's now or in five years or 10 years or 20 years or in 30 years, I have no idea.
00:09:19.000 I don't know what this country is going to look like in 10 years.
00:09:22.000 I hope we can turn some things around.
00:09:23.000 Some ways it looks like the country is just like so far apart and people don't want to work anymore and all this.
00:09:29.000 But then I say, wait a second, there's a lot of goodness happening in the country.
00:09:33.000 We have 600 people under the age of 22 that are super activists that are deciding you are all voluntarily doing something where you're saying, I want my life to be harder.
00:09:45.000 It would be easier, any one of you, if you were here and, you know, instead of turning point USA, it was like transing the country USA.
00:09:55.000 You would get corporate donations.
00:09:57.000 You would get sponsorships with beer companies.
00:10:00.000 You would get, Target would want you to go model for them.
00:10:05.000 Your administration would give you special privileges.
00:10:08.000 You would be on the website of whatever godless college that you go to.
00:10:14.000 What college do you go to?
00:10:16.000 Suffolk.
00:10:17.000 You would be on the front page of Suffolk.
00:10:19.000 If you transitioned to a woman right now and wore a dress, you'd be on the front page of the Suffolk University website or whatever godless school you guys go to.
00:10:29.000 But you're saying, no, I think that's bad because I know what's right and I know what's good.
00:10:37.000 And so when you say, I want to start a turning point chapter leader, all of a sudden, I'm sure, raise your hands.
00:10:41.000 If you've been graded differently called names, smear, slandered, lost friends, every single hand goes up.
00:10:45.000 Guess what?
00:10:46.000 That means you're standing for something.
00:10:46.000 Good.
00:10:51.000 That means that you are not a coward.
00:10:56.000 That means your life has purpose and meaning.
00:10:59.000 Delight in them calling you names.
00:11:03.000 Find joy in the persecution because it will come and it will come more.
00:11:07.000 We live in a dark world right now.
00:11:10.000 It's not going to brighten unless we turn up the lights.
00:11:13.000 And the only way you do that is with courage.
00:11:16.000 And so I could be like, oh boy, life is so tough.
00:11:19.000 And, you know, keep your head down and do all this and, you know, say, you know, just try to lie to get a good grade.
00:11:25.000 Or I could tell you, you know what?
00:11:27.000 Life goes by like this.
00:11:29.000 And I don't want to live as a coward.
00:11:31.000 And I don't want that for you either.
00:11:33.000 Because you know what a coward is?
00:11:35.000 A coward is someone who is somebody different in public than they are in private.
00:11:41.000 They're different.
00:11:42.000 They have like a, like, well, I have to be somebody in my dorm room.
00:11:45.000 And then once I'm outside, I have to pretend like I'm through all the SJW nonsense.
00:11:51.000 What you're deciding to be is the same person in every environment, regardless of where you go all the time.
00:11:58.000 And that's some, you know who that is?
00:12:00.000 That's a person who's free.
00:12:03.000 That's a person who's free where you don't have to self-censor.
00:12:09.000 And yes, I'm sure we're going to get question after question.
00:12:12.000 We're going to do questions for some time.
00:12:13.000 But Charlie, how should I deal with a professor who's going to grade me differently?
00:12:18.000 You choose.
00:12:20.000 I have great respect for this man, but I disagree with him.
00:12:22.000 Ben Shapiro says you should lie your way through college.
00:12:26.000 He says that you should lie to the professor and write essays that pander them to just get good grades.
00:12:26.000 He does.
00:12:32.000 Some of you might decide to do that.
00:12:34.000 I think that if you lie little, you lie big, and you should never lie under any circumstances whatsoever when it comes to things that matter.
00:12:42.000 I think grades mean nothing.
00:12:44.000 I think courage and character means everything.
00:12:48.000 Now, some of you are like, but I want to go to law school.
00:12:52.000 Go to law school.
00:12:52.000 Don't lie.
00:12:53.000 Let me know how it goes.
00:12:55.000 Go pander to the corporations.
00:12:57.000 Go tell me how it works.
00:12:59.000 The rest of your life, though, you'll be looking around the shoulder.
00:13:01.000 I hope they don't find out that I like Trump.
00:13:03.000 I hope they don't find out that I'm a conservative.
00:13:05.000 I hope they don't find out I'm a Christian.
00:13:07.000 The earlier you proclaim to the world what you believe in, you won't have to worry about them coming after you.
00:13:18.000 But you say, well, my parents, this, make your own decisions, guys.
00:13:23.000 I'm not telling you what to do, but I will tell you this.
00:13:26.000 If you think that you're just going to kind of slow walk, no one's going to detect me, and I'm going to go become a partner at this law firm, and I'm going to go to Yale law and all this, fine.
00:13:37.000 If you can live that double life, but that's exhausting.
00:13:40.000 Why don't you use that energy to go fight these commies instead of having to like dodge their tyranny?
00:13:47.000 Reject the terms on face value and be who you are and what you believe.
00:13:54.000 So, and when I talk to our donors and I talk to the people that support us, they say, Charlie, what gives you hope?
00:14:03.000 And some of these people are afraid to voice their opinions to their neighbors or to their friends.
00:14:07.000 So, you know what gives me hope?
00:14:09.000 Gives me hope when thousands and hundreds of thousands of young people, the students of Turning Point USA, say, I will take the tough path, but I want a deep life.
00:14:22.000 Here's one of the things I want to share with you today.
00:14:23.000 You have a choice, and you've all made the right choice, but I hope you go even further in this direction.
00:14:29.000 I encourage for you to make a conscious decision to pursue depth over shallowness and to pursue things that matter over things that are easier comfortable.
00:14:43.000 That's what you're deciding to do.
00:14:45.000 Ease and comfort is just checking the boxes of what society wants for you.
00:14:50.000 Depth requires work.
00:14:53.000 Depth requires understanding why am I here?
00:14:57.000 Who created me?
00:14:59.000 Is there a God?
00:15:00.000 Why does this country matter?
00:15:02.000 Should I even care about how my fellow citizens are created?
00:15:05.000 Or should I just kind of just go through the motions and try to get the most stuff and kind of keep my head down?
00:15:10.000 A deep life means you're going to have to work for things.
00:15:14.000 But I think we all understand that your generation is the most suicidal, depressed, alcohol-addicted, drug-addicted, and pornography-addicted generation in history.
00:15:27.000 Why?
00:15:28.000 Why is that the case?
00:15:30.000 It's because we have told a generation of young people, no need to dive deep into big ideas.
00:15:36.000 Stay shallow.
00:15:38.000 Just kind of do what you're told.
00:15:41.000 Put on the mask.
00:15:43.000 15 days is slow to spread.
00:15:46.000 Take the shot.
00:15:47.000 Disagree, you're an anti-science bigot.
00:15:50.000 Where's your black square?
00:15:51.000 You don't support Ukraine?
00:15:53.000 What are you?
00:15:53.000 A Russian puppet?
00:15:59.000 Take a knee or else you're a bigot.
00:16:02.000 That's not deep life.
00:16:03.000 That's a boring, simple, robotic, regime-programmed life.
00:16:11.000 You have a different way.
00:16:13.000 You have an opportunity to say, you know what, I want to pursue what is good, true, and beautiful in the world.
00:16:17.000 I want to pursue what things that make my soul activated, not just that give me immediate pleasure or pursue licentiousness.
00:16:27.000 The mission that is in front of you, the charge for all of you is to go through your life in the next couple years.
00:16:33.000 And Turning Point will be a partner with you in this, is to say, you know what?
00:16:36.000 I want to be a leader in my community, a leader in my life, but I'm not just going to do the thing that is the most immediate or that of ease.
00:16:45.000 And so what does that look like practically?
00:16:50.000 It looks like, first and foremost, understanding that if it makes you feel good immediately in a quick rush, it's probably bad for you.
00:16:57.000 It's saying no to hookup culture and that trash that goes alongside of it.
00:17:05.000 It's understanding that if you're staring at your screen for hours and hours a day, that you're nothing more than a product of people who hate you and they're programming your behaviors and manipulating your brain neurochemistry from their dopamine, the noreperephrine, to your hormonal reactions.
00:17:24.000 Decide to be a human being.
00:17:25.000 What a concept.
00:17:27.000 And putting the things that matter that will matter in eternal consequence.
00:17:31.000 Last thing I'll say is this.
00:17:32.000 And I want to just tell you my gratitude and how important you are to what we do for your grit, for your hustle, for your stamina, and for your commitment.
00:17:40.000 Is one of the reasons that I'm not a big fan of college, and I know it's kind of weird because you guys are half in college, but just I'm honest, is because college does not, unless you go to anyone but Hillsdale?
00:17:54.000 We have any Hillsdale people here?
00:17:55.000 No?
00:17:56.000 No one?
00:17:57.000 Oh, there you go.
00:17:57.000 You guys are exempt from this.
00:17:59.000 So two out of 600.
00:18:00.000 Okay, good.
00:18:02.000 Unless there's another good school.
00:18:03.000 Any other good schools here?
00:18:06.000 Liberty's actually pretty good.
00:18:07.000 Anybody else?
00:18:09.000 UCF?
00:18:11.000 University of Central Florida?
00:18:14.000 Yeah, I don't know about that one.
00:18:16.000 So we'll find out.
00:18:18.000 I'm speaking there, I think, this semester.
00:18:20.000 I'm not, I don't know.
00:18:22.000 University of Georgia?
00:18:28.000 Here's the question.
00:18:29.000 What do you mean by a good school?
00:18:30.000 In their mission statement at Hillsdale, I'll brag on Hillsdale.
00:18:34.000 They say that our job is to make you wise and full of good character.
00:18:39.000 Most schools that you guys go to here in this room, that is not their mission statement.
00:18:44.000 It is to create worldly citizens, activists for a lifetime.
00:18:49.000 What is wisdom?
00:18:51.000 Wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.
00:18:56.000 Wisdom is to understand: are human beings naturally good or bad?
00:18:59.000 Is there a natural law?
00:19:00.000 How did this universe come into being?
00:19:03.000 Not everything can be decided through a study.
00:19:08.000 Not everything can be decided by scientists.
00:19:11.000 There is a thing called philosophy.
00:19:13.000 Now, some of you probably are like, oh, I take philosophy.
00:19:15.000 Yeah, it's probably trash.
00:19:18.000 You're probably learning Jacques Derrida, Herbert Marcuse.
00:19:22.000 We're going to go learn Machiavelli and Friedrich Nietzsche.
00:19:26.000 We're going to go learn about how the ancients and the classics were all wrong.
00:19:29.000 Like, how about you study the ethics closely?
00:19:32.000 Plato's Republic, Aquinas, Augustine, understanding the thinkers that built Western society.
00:19:42.000 Where does wisdom come from ultimately?
00:19:44.000 Wisdom begins with the fear of the Lord.
00:19:53.000 We are not raising a wise generation.
00:19:56.000 We're raising a cocky generation.
00:19:59.000 We are raising a fragile generation.
00:20:02.000 We are raising a comfortable generation, but we are not raising a wise generation.
00:20:10.000 A wise generation is a threat to tyranny everywhere.
00:20:15.000 You know why?
00:20:17.000 Wise people say, no, we're not locking down schools.
00:20:21.000 Wise people say, why do I need to take the shot?
00:20:25.000 That's weird.
00:20:26.000 Wise people say, no, I'm not putting on a mask.
00:20:29.000 Because wisdom is the knowledge of things that never change.
00:20:32.000 You could be full of data, full of studies, full of meaningless crap that they teach you in these colleges.
00:20:41.000 But if you have no understanding of what is a human being, are you inclined to terrorize another?
00:20:49.000 What is good?
00:20:50.000 What is evil?
00:20:50.000 Where does it come from?
00:20:51.000 Is there a hierarchy to the good?
00:20:53.000 Define courage, prudence, temperance.
00:20:56.000 Name five people before the year 1900 that were heroic, brave, and courageous.
00:21:01.000 Name a founding father that wrote something you can quote.
00:21:04.000 If you can't say those things, you're not going to an institution that is instilling you in wisdom, going deep, but you could do that yourself.
00:21:10.000 You don't have to go to college to do that.
00:21:12.000 You could be self-motivated and autodidactic.
00:21:16.000 You can listen to my podcast.
00:21:17.000 You could read the great books.
00:21:19.000 You don't need to go $200,000 in debt to do that.
00:21:22.000 You could decide to do it today.
00:21:25.000 To go find an answer to these questions, to dwell on the deeper things, where you stop in awe and wonder of things that are beautiful, that which is perfected in being.
00:21:33.000 What I'm getting at is the rest of your life, commit yourself to wanting to pursue wisdom because we need you wise, everybody.
00:21:42.000 We don't just need you activated.
00:21:44.000 We don't just need you motivated.
00:21:45.000 We don't just need you energized.
00:21:45.000 We need that.
00:21:47.000 We need you to be able to tell good from evil quickly because it's coming back and it's here right now.
00:21:54.000 We need you to be able to be like, yeah, it's kind of weird that we're chopping off the genitals of 12-year-olds.
00:22:00.000 Shut up, bigot.
00:22:02.000 No, that's not right.
00:22:04.000 Well, who are you to say what is good or evil or right or wrong?
00:22:08.000 That moral subjectivism that is being force-fed in many of the colleges that you go in.
00:22:13.000 And isn't it hilarious that the moral subjectivists, they're always actually the most moral absolutists?
00:22:18.000 Because then you say, wait a second, is there a moral standard?
00:22:22.000 No, of course not, but you're a bigot.
00:22:23.000 Okay, you call me a bigot means that there's an objective moral standard, obviously.
00:22:27.000 Because by some grading scale, you're calling me less than desirable.
00:22:32.000 You're a hater.
00:22:33.000 By what standard?
00:22:35.000 Everyone is using a standard to judge something every time.
00:22:38.000 By what standard is the most important question?
00:22:40.000 And so therefore, we need a wise generation.
00:22:44.000 Now, some people will say you can only get wisdom through life experience.
00:22:47.000 That is wrong.
00:22:49.000 You can get wisdom through study of the great thinkers and philosophers.
00:22:54.000 Philosopher literally means the love of wisdom.
00:22:56.000 Philos Sophos.
00:22:57.000 Sophos wisdom, philosoph.
00:22:59.000 The love of wisdom.
00:23:00.000 You should all love wisdom.
00:23:02.000 You should all yearn to wonder and to know and to dive deep in the things that capture your imagination.
00:23:07.000 Because when you do that, that will only intensify your resolve to fight to win this battle, to start a turning point group, to recruit more kids.
00:23:17.000 And then you'll find something that your counterparts on the left will never find.
00:23:21.000 I believe the scriptures will lead you to this.
00:23:23.000 You'll find joy.
00:23:27.000 You'll find peace.
00:23:32.000 And that is right there in front of you.
00:23:34.000 My message is not an easy message.
00:23:36.000 I'm not here to tell you to go follow your heart.
00:23:38.000 Bad advice.
00:23:39.000 Don't do that.
00:23:41.000 Do what you want to do.
00:23:43.000 No, don't do that either.
00:23:44.000 Press pause and realize you're young, but you're willing.
00:23:50.000 And I want to figure out if somebody before me wrote something that could be helpful to me.
00:23:54.000 It's kind of cool.
00:23:56.000 How often does a college tell you, hey, you're young and somebody 2,000 years ago might have been able to write something down so that you don't have to suffer as much?
00:24:03.000 No, instead, they'll say they're white, so don't read them.
00:24:06.000 It's probably a bad idea.
00:24:09.000 You guys are on the front lines.
00:24:11.000 I'm honored to fight alongside of you.
00:24:12.000 You are America's best hope.
00:24:15.000 The country is not in a good spot.
00:24:19.000 We're going to talk about that in the coming days.
00:24:21.000 And I know you guys are coming to ACTCON.
00:24:23.000 It's going to be pretty amazing.
00:24:24.000 Tucker and Bongino and all of that.
00:24:26.000 It's going to be great.
00:24:30.000 But you know the number one reason why these speakers want to come?
00:24:33.000 When I talk to Tucker, when I talk to President Trump, when I talk to Bannon, when I talk to Bongino, when I talk to Megan Kelly, it's because they say, Charlie, there is a grittiness.
00:24:44.000 There's an energy.
00:24:46.000 There's a focus.
00:24:47.000 There's an optimism with the turning point students that we don't see anywhere else.
00:24:52.000 They said, we're coming out of our schedule in the summer to Palm Beach because we want to speak to your students to tell them how important they are to save the civilization.
00:25:03.000 And I agree completely.
00:25:04.000 You guys are America's last best hope.
00:25:06.000 Let's do some questions, guys.
00:25:07.000 God bless you.
00:25:10.000 Okay, I don't know how we're doing it.
00:25:12.000 Is that Lacey back there?
00:25:13.000 I can't see anything.
00:25:14.000 So let's try to pepper it around the room somewhat.
00:25:18.000 I hate the word equitably.
00:25:19.000 What is this?
00:25:20.000 Equitably.
00:25:20.000 I hate that word.
00:25:23.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is Caden Smith.
00:25:26.000 Big fan of yours.
00:25:28.000 So at my college campus, we have about five people in my turning point chapter.
00:25:36.000 So what is your greatest advice to combat against people tearing down your table, breaking into your dorm room, and all this other crazy stuff?
00:25:47.000 Wow.
00:25:47.000 What school again?
00:25:48.000 Mid-Plains Community College in North Platte, Nebraska.
00:25:48.000 I'm sorry?
00:25:51.000 So I'm sorry you have to deal with the, boy, breaking into your dorm room.
00:25:56.000 That's, that's, I don't hear that one often.
00:25:59.000 First, how do you deal with it?
00:26:01.000 Attitude-wise.
00:26:02.000 This is another thing they don't teach you in college.
00:26:04.000 How do you handle negativity and suffering?
00:26:10.000 No.
00:26:12.000 Don't do that.
00:26:13.000 Don't do that.
00:26:15.000 Do you complain or do you look at it as a potential blessing in your life?
00:26:21.000 You are 100% in control of the attitude that you bring to things that are out of your control.
00:26:30.000 Secular society and modern society say that you are a victim of your circumstances.
00:26:36.000 I'm here to tell you that you get to choose how you handle your circumstances.
00:26:41.000 And so, for example, okay, our table gets torn down.
00:26:43.000 They break into your dorm room.
00:26:45.000 You have two choices.
00:26:46.000 I'm a victim.
00:26:47.000 Feel sorry for me.
00:26:49.000 I want special rights and privileges.
00:26:50.000 Number two, wow, this is making me tougher.
00:26:53.000 I'm going to grow closer to the people I care about.
00:26:55.000 Our five chapter members are going to be tighter knit than ever before.
00:26:58.000 I'm going to have some great stories.
00:27:00.000 And boy, I'm more motivated to defeat these Marxists than I was before I started my turning point group.
00:27:05.000 Boom!
00:27:05.000 Mindset shift.
00:27:07.000 You have a choice to do that.
00:27:08.000 And our society now is non-stop about something.
00:27:12.000 You are just the creation of the stuff.
00:27:14.000 No, you are a creation of who you choose to be.
00:27:18.000 You are a creation of the mindset you bring to the game.
00:27:21.000 And so, yeah, bad stuff can happen to you.
00:27:23.000 Sickness, death, unexpected car crashes, injury.
00:27:28.000 Do you view it as a chance to become better or not?
00:27:31.000 How many people have read Man's Search for Meaning by Viktor Frankl?
00:27:35.000 Well, that's actually more handy.
00:27:35.000 Anybody?
00:27:36.000 I think some of you want to ask questions, so I can't tell.
00:27:39.000 You should all read Man's Search for Meaning by Victor Frankl, Holocaust survivor.
00:27:43.000 No one can say that I'm suffering and then read Victor Frankl's book.
00:27:47.000 The guy lost his wife, concentration camp survivor.
00:27:50.000 And he says, if you go through life with an attitude that this is a chance to improve and become a better person, you have the agency to do that.
00:28:00.000 And so, how do you handle it?
00:28:02.000 Look at it as a blessing.
00:28:03.000 Get tougher, get stronger as a chance to grow your impact.
00:28:07.000 And I will say this again: if you're involved with Turning Point USA, the maggots will attack you.
00:28:12.000 Good.
00:28:13.000 You will become stronger while your counterparts grow weaker.
00:28:18.000 Next question.
00:28:22.000 Where are we at?
00:28:22.000 I have Mr. Kirk and the son are here.
00:28:25.000 Okay.
00:28:26.000 I'll stand up.
00:28:27.000 Mr. Kirk, how do we ascend to your level of basedom and also based on the that being based, essentially?
00:28:37.000 How do we make time in our busy schedule, or how would one make time in their busy schedules for the pursuit of wisdom and that sort of thing?
00:28:47.000 Can I great question?
00:28:48.000 What school do you go to?
00:28:50.000 I am the only member here from Westfield State University in Massachusetts.
00:28:53.000 Well, God bless you for being here.
00:28:55.000 I have no idea where that is in Massachusetts, but that any far west you get to Albany.
00:29:00.000 So even further west than Wooster.
00:29:02.000 Yes.
00:29:02.000 Okay, okay.
00:29:03.000 All right.
00:29:03.000 God bless you.
00:29:04.000 Thanks for being here.
00:29:04.000 I'm going to say this as non-braggadociously as a human being can.
00:29:10.000 You guys are not busier than I am.
00:29:12.000 Okay?
00:29:13.000 I'm just going to be honest.
00:29:14.000 We got 400 employees.
00:29:16.000 I got to raise $100 million a year.
00:29:18.000 I do three hours of radio.
00:29:19.000 I have a daughter, a wife, and I got to deal with the New York Times and whatever government agency wants to put me in prison.
00:29:25.000 Okay?
00:29:25.000 If you're busier than me, I'm going to meet you.
00:29:28.000 You make time for what you care about: podcasting, wake up earlier, stop doing drugs, stop drinking, listen to podcasts that matter or Hillsdale online courses, whatever it is.
00:29:40.000 You're not busy.
00:29:41.000 You think you're busy.
00:29:44.000 If I told you that your life will end in 30 days unless you run a mile, run for walk for an hour a day, you'd find time to do that.
00:29:54.000 It's a matter of what matters most to you.
00:29:57.000 So you're probably going to have to subtract something from that equation, okay?
00:30:01.000 The easy stuff to subtract: here's a super easy equation, okay?
00:30:05.000 You could do your own audit.
00:30:07.000 Are you spending time with people that gossip more than pursue beautiful things?
00:30:12.000 If yes, stop being friends with those people.
00:30:14.000 Waste of time.
00:30:15.000 Number two, are you looking at a screen of content that is not teaching you things or fulfilling things?
00:30:21.000 Stop it.
00:30:22.000 Do you have social media apps on your phone?
00:30:24.000 You shouldn't.
00:30:25.000 Number four, are you doing substances that do not make you feel good after you do them once the high wears off?
00:30:32.000 Stop doing those substances.
00:30:34.000 If you're doing those four things, you tell me you're busy, you're not busy.
00:30:39.000 You're distracted.
00:30:40.000 It's a big difference.
00:30:42.000 And so, what my advice to you is: you carve out the time.
00:30:45.000 Hillsdale online courses, CharlieForhillsdale.com.
00:30:48.000 You listen to the Charlie Kirk show, listen to the Matt Walsh show.
00:30:51.000 Listen, Victor Davis Hansen stuff.
00:30:53.000 Like, there's, I could give you 100 books, literally, 100 books to read that you guys could dive into, but you have to want it.
00:31:00.000 It's going to take a thousand hours of study within a couple years.
00:31:06.000 But here's the cool thing: once you go on this, there is no greater joy except getting married, having kids, and giving your life to Jesus.
00:31:14.000 So, like, no, no greater, like, daily joy, like, no, no greater daily joy than learning.
00:31:22.000 The first line of Aristotle's metaphysics: all men desire to know.
00:31:27.000 Dive deep, challenge yourself, read the great books, you'll start to get to a level of joy and understanding of wisdom that I think our generation is missing.
00:31:39.000 Thank you so much for being here with us today.
00:31:41.000 So, you mentioned how it's maybe not a good idea to go into law, but I'm someone who really enjoys law and I want to go to law school and be a constitutional lawyer.
00:31:50.000 And I think we owe a lot to conservative judges like Scalia, Alito, Thomas, even Rehnquist from the 70s.
00:31:56.000 So, do you think it's better to not abandon these fields and instead try to take over them?
00:32:02.000 As we see, the law has an effect on our daily lives, seen through recent Supreme Court decisions and even through COVID.
00:32:07.000 And what advice would you give to someone who wants to go into law and is a super staunch conservative?
00:32:12.000 No, I mean, look, if you have the temperament and the self-discipline, go do it.
00:32:16.000 I wouldn't be able to go through forced diversity, equity, inclusion courses at a law school.
00:32:22.000 That's what you're going to have to do, right?
00:32:24.000 To go to a respectable law school, you're going to have to write paper after paper on why the Constitution is trash.
00:32:30.000 I wouldn't be able to do that.
00:32:32.000 So, more power to you if you're willing to write that and do that.
00:32:36.000 Every law school is captured, basically, every single one.
00:32:39.000 But you're right.
00:32:40.000 We do need to have people go into elite society that actually love the country and share our values.
00:32:46.000 But everyone's wired differently.
00:32:48.000 I personally would not be able to go through that kind of humiliation exercise against my deeply, deeply held beliefs.
00:32:54.000 But yes, I mean, Amy Coney Barrett, Kavanaugh, Gorsuch is whatever.
00:32:59.000 Scalia is amazing.
00:33:02.000 We need a new wave of conservative legal scholars, and you seem like the type of person who needs to do it.
00:33:10.000 So, I'll back you 100% in that effort.
00:33:12.000 God bless you.
00:33:13.000 Great question.
00:33:14.000 Charlie, on your left, right here.
00:33:15.000 Guy standing up right here.
00:33:17.000 All right.
00:33:18.000 So, Charlie, my name's Charlie as well.
00:33:20.000 I'm from Seattle, Washington.
00:33:22.000 So, we are in the middle of a huge culture war.
00:33:24.000 And I really enjoy the point of view that every chapter is its own military base.
00:33:29.000 And so, every war needs a game-winning strategy.
00:33:32.000 And so, Charlie, as one of our great generals, what's our game-winning strategy?
00:33:37.000 All right, so it's going to be a long war.
00:33:40.000 Let me tell you that.
00:33:41.000 This is not going to end by the break of summer, to use a military analogy.
00:33:45.000 Number one, you do not apologize to the bad guys unless you know you've done something wrong.
00:33:53.000 You do not apologize to the bad guys by forced Maoist style indoctrination.
00:34:01.000 Number two, you never surrender to their will.
00:34:03.000 Number three, you must be happy.
00:34:06.000 Happiness is a choice.
00:34:09.000 You're like, what?
00:34:11.000 Do you know happiness does not happen to you?
00:34:14.000 You need to work on your happiness.
00:34:18.000 That's Prager's book, happiness is a serious problem.
00:34:20.000 It will change your life as soon as you recognize that.
00:34:23.000 Happiness does not happen to you.
00:34:25.000 You choose to be happy.
00:34:27.000 And if your college is not teaching you that, your college is doing a big disservice to you.
00:34:31.000 Why does happiness and joy matter?
00:34:34.000 Because they'll never be able to take that from you if you decide that's who you're going to be.
00:34:39.000 Ever.
00:34:40.000 And again, I believe the true joy comes from a relationship with the Lord.
00:34:43.000 I hope you guys make that same decision.
00:34:47.000 And so we must be joyful warriors.
00:34:50.000 What is the battle plan?
00:34:51.000 More than even law.
00:34:53.000 I'm so glad you're doing that.
00:34:54.000 But we need entrepreneurs.
00:34:56.000 We need some of you guys to go start the next Google, the next Salesforce, the next Ford Motor Company.
00:35:02.000 We need that badly.
00:35:03.000 Can one of you go become a billionaire in the next five years?
00:35:06.000 And we'll have a lot to talk about, okay?
00:35:09.000 Like somebody go found conservative Snapchat or something and like come back in five years.
00:35:15.000 I'll name the whole chapter leadership summit after you, okay?
00:35:20.000 Yeah, I won't have a problem with that 100 million a year.
00:35:22.000 Right, exactly.
00:35:22.000 One of you, please go get fabulously wealthy very quickly because we need our own George Soros, okay?
00:35:30.000 What is the battle plan?
00:35:32.000 We need you guys to go take risks and not just go work for people, but go employ people and go get very rich and then go give money to go defeat the maggots.
00:35:40.000 Okay?
00:35:41.000 So I got a lot more to that.
00:35:43.000 And then finally, in your own personal life, you need to be personally conservative.
00:35:48.000 Men, stop watching pornography.
00:35:49.000 Women, stop watching pornography because a lot of women are watching pornography.
00:35:53.000 Stop doing drugs, get married and save yourself for marriage and then have Mormon levels of children and then get rich and donate them back to 21 USA.
00:36:02.000 Okay.
00:36:06.000 Hi, Charlie.
00:36:07.000 And go to the men's summit, is right.
00:36:09.000 Yes.
00:36:10.000 Okay, so this is actually a really perfectly timed question for that response.
00:36:14.000 It's about mindsets, about happiness.
00:36:16.000 Last summer, I was assigned a book for a class.
00:36:18.000 Another reason to hate college with this one.
00:36:20.000 It was called Bright Sided, Why Positive Thinking is Undermining America.
00:36:25.000 I had to read this book.
00:36:26.000 It was torture.
00:36:28.000 The general assertion is that being hopeful, being positive, being happy, being satisfied with things, being grateful are toxic and are undermining America in a variety of ways, as you went in the book, all to make the not very subtle assertion that it's Republicans, it's conservatives because of all the data out there that we're.
00:36:47.000 We're too happy.
00:36:48.000 Yes.
00:36:49.000 So I wanted to know what your response is and why one of the main points is that we don't like demand enough.
00:36:55.000 We're not progressive enough.
00:36:56.000 We don't want more entitlements.
00:36:58.000 But I think we demand a lot in like a higher standard, not in like handouts.
00:37:04.000 I wanted to know like your thought on that assertion, that book that I had to read for class.
00:37:08.000 So first of all, you should, before you ever, this is a good life lesson, before you ever demand anything from your society or your government or from others, you must demand excellence from yourself.
00:37:22.000 Before you ever demand anything from society or others, you must demand excellence from yourself.
00:37:29.000 If you are unshaven and like waking up at 5 a.m. and doing drugs and being like, the world is so unjust, give me free stuff.
00:37:37.000 Like get your act together before you start to go tell other people to give up their liberty, freedom, and their stuff.
00:37:43.000 Okay?
00:37:44.000 So I want to be very clear.
00:37:46.000 Positive thinking has a bad rap in some way.
00:37:50.000 I think we should be accurate thinkers, but you should also understand that your attitude is 100% in your control.
00:37:59.000 100%.
00:38:00.000 The unhappy make the world worse.
00:38:03.000 The person who wrote that book is making the world worse.
00:38:06.000 But if you're a secular leftist, what do you have to be happy about?
00:38:11.000 Everything the left focuses on is a crisis that is unhappy.
00:38:16.000 The world is ending from climate change.
00:38:18.000 The world is ending from systemic racism.
00:38:20.000 There is no God.
00:38:22.000 Our history sucks.
00:38:23.000 I would be unhappy too.
00:38:25.000 We look at it like, okay, no, there's not a climate catastrophe.
00:38:28.000 We're not systemically racist.
00:38:30.000 We're the greatest nation ever to exist.
00:38:32.000 And I'm made in the image of God who loved me enough to send his son so that I could live eternal life.
00:38:38.000 Yeah, that would bring me a lot of joy, actually.
00:38:41.000 And so, but I don't love that term positive thinking because people think of it as like delusional thinking, where, you know, as Tony Robbins would say, you don't go into your garden and say, there's no weeds, there's no weeds, there's no weeds.
00:38:56.000 You go into your garden, you say, here's the weed, and let me pull it out so that you could live a better life and fix your thinking patterns.
00:39:04.000 And so we, Andrew Tate said this.
00:39:08.000 I'm not an apologist for Andrew Tate, by the way.
00:39:10.000 I think he's got a lot of problems, but I think he was totally right when he said this.
00:39:12.000 All the young men are like smiling now because it's just.
00:39:15.000 Take them to the men's.
00:39:16.000 Yeah.
00:39:17.000 Yeah, no, I like Andrew Tate.
00:39:20.000 I can't hear what you said, but okay.
00:39:21.000 Yeah, again, I'm not an apologist of Andrew Tate, but I think he was right when he said this, which is that society in general wants you depressed and they don't want you happy.
00:39:32.000 That if you're happy and joyful, people act as if there's something wrong with you.
00:39:36.000 But if you're depressed and angry or bitter, they're like, everything's right with you.
00:39:42.000 That's weird.
00:39:44.000 And totally understanding that depression is a real thing and that people can struggle with it and anxiety is a real thing, totally get it.
00:39:50.000 Happy to give you resources on that.
00:39:52.000 However, your attitude is still a choice, and how you act is a choice every single day.
00:39:59.000 Only you are to blame for whether you are happy or unhappy today.
00:40:04.000 That is completely on you, not on systemic racism, colonialism, misogyny, homophobia, or somebody calling you a bad name.
00:40:11.000 Next question.
00:40:12.000 Hey, Charlie, just want to start off by saying really big fan, but I'm trying to do a co-event with the student ministry I'm in, and the president is very adamant about not combining faith in politics.
00:40:24.000 He is conservative, but he, you know, he separation of church and state, he doesn't want to make it political, basically.
00:40:30.000 So, like, what are some ideas that I can propose to him to where we can do a co-event?
00:40:36.000 Yeah, I mean, you should ask him, where does it say separation of church and state in the Constitution?
00:40:40.000 And that'll make him fluster a little bit.
00:40:46.000 I'm pretty outspoken on this topic, as you can imagine.
00:40:50.000 Your friend is wrong.
00:40:51.000 What he's basically saying is he doesn't want to offend people.
00:40:54.000 Well, look, the gospel is offensive, okay, by definition.
00:40:59.000 And look, what is politics?
00:41:03.000 Politics is how we decide who gets power.
00:41:06.000 The Bible has a lot to say about that.
00:41:09.000 The Bible is largely a political document.
00:41:11.000 What is true?
00:41:12.000 What is good?
00:41:12.000 Should we protect children?
00:41:13.000 Who gets power?
00:41:14.000 Should it be separate?
00:41:15.000 The founding fathers quoted Deuteronomy more than any other book, religious or secular, in the formation of our government.
00:41:22.000 And so I understand campus ministry.
00:41:24.000 They're like, oh, we just want to focus on the gospel.
00:41:27.000 You are a weak person.
00:41:29.000 Good luck with your nine people.
00:41:30.000 How many campus ministries can get 6,000 people to show up to an event like we can this weekend?
00:41:36.000 They can't.
00:41:36.000 They're withering away.
00:41:37.000 They're dying.
00:41:37.000 Their membership is going down.
00:41:39.000 Why?
00:41:40.000 Because they're increasingly irrelevant, where they're like, well, we just want to love everyone.
00:41:44.000 Meanwhile, this trans zealotry is spreading the country and they're like, well, we don't take stances on that stuff.
00:41:50.000 Well, you're going to be irrelevant and your numbers are going to go down.
00:41:53.000 If you stand for truth, people will come.
00:41:56.000 If you stand for truth, people will come.
00:41:59.000 Happy to talk more privately with you, though.
00:42:01.000 Thank you.
00:42:02.000 On your left?
00:42:02.000 Yeah.
00:42:03.000 Hi, my name is Jude Carlson.
00:42:06.000 Unfortunately, not related to the notorious Tucker Carlson, but I come from a pretty conservative area, but my fellow high schoolers don't exactly have motivation for politics or getting involved at all.
00:42:20.000 So as having the privilege of being the president of the first chapter at my high school, what would you recommend me do to have the largest impact that I can and encourage my peers to be leaders while simultaneously leading them to Christ?
00:42:36.000 This is a question I get from people of all ages, which is someone who cares asking me, why do other people not care?
00:42:46.000 It's just the way that God made us.
00:42:48.000 A small percentage of the population will care while most people sit idly by and do nothing.
00:42:54.000 It's just the way it is.
00:42:56.000 So the trick and the challenge of the leader is how do we get those who usually won't care to care?
00:43:04.000 That's the challenge in front of all of you.
00:43:07.000 And the number one way is you yourself have to be joyful, enthusiastic, energetic, and you have to be a leader that is worth following.
00:43:17.000 If you are those things, then you have a chance to bring other people into those ranks, right?
00:43:22.000 But again, the majority of the population is just going to be indifferent.
00:43:27.000 Eh, whatever.
00:43:28.000 How many times do you guys hear that when you do this?
00:43:30.000 Ah, whatever.
00:43:31.000 I don't care.
00:43:32.000 Whatever.
00:43:33.000 I don't care.
00:43:34.000 You're going to have to just break through that.
00:43:36.000 Pierce that.
00:43:37.000 Try to make it relative.
00:43:38.000 Try to make it relevant, I should say.
00:43:40.000 Try to make it engaging, informational.
00:43:43.000 But more than anything else, people follow people.
00:43:48.000 And so if you are a leader worth following, who's interesting, who studies, who understands their stuff, that's a great way to pierce through a lot of the cynicism and a lot of the lack of engagement.
00:43:59.000 God bless you, men.
00:44:00.000 Thank you for leading your chapter two.
00:44:05.000 Hey, Charlie, my name is John Walker.
00:44:06.000 I'm the chapter president at Grand Canyon University chapter.
00:44:10.000 Yeah.
00:44:11.000 Nice to see you again.
00:44:12.000 So I had a question similar to the question that was asked over here, but with GCU being like a Christian campus, pretty conservative campus, there are a lot of students that I talk to, especially friends of mine that are like, hey, I respect what you're doing.
00:44:28.000 I don't really care about politics.
00:44:30.000 All I care about is the gospel.
00:44:32.000 You know, Jesus is going to win in the end.
00:44:34.000 So why should I care about America?
00:44:36.000 I hear that same thing from a lot of churches too.
00:44:38.000 So how do you suggest I go about going into these friend circles, going into these churches, and be like, hey, you should care about America because we know Jesus is going to come back and those believers are going to be saved.
00:44:50.000 But why should we care in the moment now?
00:44:53.000 Great question.
00:44:54.000 First and foremost, does the Bible ever instruct us to care about politics?
00:44:58.000 Yes.
00:44:58.000 Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare.
00:45:03.000 Daniel, Esther, Mordecai, Jeremiah, Nehemiah.
00:45:06.000 I could go through the list.
00:45:07.000 Joseph.
00:45:08.000 Joseph, one of my favorite characters of the Bible.
00:45:10.000 Bible trivia.
00:45:11.000 Only two Old Testament characters called righteous or who?
00:45:13.000 Anybody?
00:45:15.000 Who said that?
00:45:15.000 Noah.
00:45:16.000 Good for you.
00:45:17.000 And?
00:45:19.000 No, Abraham was never called righteous.
00:45:21.000 No, it's Noah and Joseph.
00:45:24.000 Abraham was called good, but he's not called righteous.
00:45:26.000 But close, though.
00:45:26.000 Yes, whoever said Noah, that's really good for you.
00:45:29.000 People usually, I've been to churches and they don't get that question right.
00:45:34.000 So Joseph called a righteous man.
00:45:35.000 He was also called handsome.
00:45:36.000 That's a separate issue.
00:45:37.000 Joseph was what?
00:45:38.000 What was Joseph?
00:45:39.000 Let's Bible trivia.
00:45:40.000 How could you describe Joseph?
00:45:41.000 Yes, he was young son, discarded all this.
00:45:43.000 What was his role in Egypt?
00:45:45.000 Anybody?
00:45:46.000 Second most powerful, but he was a what?
00:45:50.000 He was, what'd you say?
00:45:51.000 The accountant.
00:45:52.000 Accountant, yes, but he was a counselor to the king, right?
00:45:56.000 God's vision for his people is to be counselors to the king, to correct error into right, to correct lies into truth, right?
00:46:05.000 So should we delete?
00:46:07.000 Should we take scissors and remove Joseph, Daniel, Mordecai, Esther, Nehemiah, and Jeremiah?
00:46:11.000 No, we should look to Daniel.
00:46:13.000 What did Daniel do when a tyrannical government told him to stop praying?
00:46:18.000 What did Daniel do?
00:46:21.000 Kept praying and he opened up the window and he said, screw you, I'm going to keep on worshiping Hashem, Adonai, Jehovah, Elohim.
00:46:29.000 I am not going to listen to your tyrannical order.
00:46:32.000 We talk about Daniel in the lion's den, but we forget how he got in the lion's den.
00:46:36.000 He got in the lion's den because he did not put up with tyrannical government.
00:46:42.000 What does it say in Acts?
00:46:43.000 It says that we will not obey man, but we will obey God.
00:46:47.000 I can go on and on and on and on.
00:46:49.000 This is a luxury of modern Christians that are comfortable and cowards.
00:46:54.000 You shouldn't say that, but I'm being honest, okay?
00:46:56.000 These are modern Christians that have it so good, they don't understand that Christianity usually ends up in the gulag and the death camp and persecution.
00:47:05.000 If we do not stand and fight for liberty, which is God's idea, not man's idea, we will be having theological disputes from prison, and we're all gonna be running prison ministries.
00:47:17.000 But if we stand for self-government and the promise the founders handed down to us, there's a chance that we can continue to fight for righteousness, righteousness, and goodness.
00:47:26.000 And think about how selfish it is, though.
00:47:28.000 Oh, Jesus is coming.
00:47:29.000 I don't need to go fight for other people.
00:47:31.000 What were the two things that Jesus said were the most important teachings of the Old Testament?
00:47:34.000 Leviticus 19, which is love your neighbor as yourself.
00:47:38.000 You guys do know, you know, this is an impressive group.
00:47:40.000 And number two, Deuteronomy 20, which is love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, strength, and mind.
00:47:44.000 Good.
00:47:45.000 So, those two things.
00:47:46.000 How can you love your neighbor as yourself if you live under a tyrannical government?
00:47:52.000 I love, exactly, I love my neighbor so much, I want them to live in a free society.
00:47:58.000 That's what you should tell your friends.
00:48:00.000 That is exactly, it is the loving thing to do to give someone a free society.
00:48:06.000 It is the unloving thing.
00:48:08.000 It is against Leviticus 19.
00:48:10.000 It is against what Jesus told us is the greatest thing to have them live in a Stalinistic Mao-type government.
00:48:16.000 So, take whatever you want, maybe lower the temperature a little bit, and then park it and say, maybe we should think about this.
00:48:23.000 And finally, liberty is to be able to do what you ought to do.
00:48:27.000 We have this short guess where we live in a free society.
00:48:31.000 Does God want you to be free?
00:48:34.000 Yes.
00:48:35.000 God delivered his chosen people from bondage, the first chapter of Exodus.
00:48:41.000 And then rose a king over Egypt who did not know Joseph.
00:48:48.000 Forgets the memory of the history before them, terrorized.
00:48:50.000 Who are these Jews?
00:48:51.000 Imprisoned them, enslaved them.
00:48:53.000 They multiplied like cockroaches.
00:48:55.000 And God went to great lengths to deliver his people from bondage, from tyranny, into freedom.
00:49:03.000 But then what ends up happening?
00:49:05.000 Anyone read the book of Numbers?
00:49:07.000 Numbers 11?
00:49:09.000 They start complaining and they complain and they complain and they complain and they complain.
00:49:16.000 Numbers 11, God's chosen people, 10 plagues, parting of the Red Sea, 10 commandments.
00:49:23.000 Numbers 11, what was their complaint?
00:49:25.000 Hey, God, we want to go back to Egypt because we had, quote, cucumbers in Egypt.
00:49:31.000 You can look it up.
00:49:32.000 Fact, check me.
00:49:33.000 English Standard Version, Numbers 11.
00:49:35.000 They've said to God, We miss Egypt because we had meat, leeks, and cucumbers and melons in Egypt.
00:49:41.000 That's a good trivia question for your friends, right?
00:49:44.000 Name me a vegetable that is in the book of Numbers.
00:49:47.000 Many people don't know it's cucumbers.
00:49:48.000 It's like hilarious.
00:49:50.000 What were they saying?
00:49:51.000 I prefer to go be a slave than to be in the desert, even though coil is blown off course and manna comes from heaven.
00:49:58.000 It is in our soul and our broken spirit to want to be taken care of and live under tyranny.
00:50:05.000 It takes effort, effort of you to want to live free, to want to remind people that liberty and freedom is a value, which is God's plan for his people.
00:50:16.000 Our broken nature wants us to go live under a dictator.
00:50:19.000 That is the spiritual tension in front of us right now.
00:50:21.000 Next question.
00:50:22.000 To your right.
00:50:23.000 Yep.
00:50:24.000 Holy based.
00:50:25.000 Let's go.
00:50:25.000 Now, I just want to say for all Catholics and curious, we will be doing a rosary tonight.
00:50:29.000 We're trying to get a group together.
00:50:30.000 I have a lot of respect for Catholics.
00:50:32.000 God bless you.
00:50:32.000 Freaking go.
00:50:33.000 But anyway, please join.
00:50:35.000 We would love for everyone to come.
00:50:36.000 But so, what I want to know is: so I would argue that Turning Points rhetoric has gotten a lot better since the Culture War tour back in 2019.
00:50:45.000 And a lot of the arguments that have gone on within my chapter have been about what is Turning Point's real goal.
00:50:51.000 You know, people will tell me at least, they'll say, oh, this is all about economics, Gus.
00:50:55.000 You can't focus on the social issues.
00:50:57.000 And obviously, I think this discussion is proving that wrong right now.
00:51:01.000 I kind of want to, just because the rhetoric has shifted so much over the last few years, I want to know what is like Turning Point's definitive stance on social issues, both political, religious, and also how does that go into factoring in who can work at Turning Point USA?
00:51:16.000 Like, what is the standard for what someone should be practicing in their personal life?
00:51:20.000 Oh, I think that's a great question.
00:51:21.000 And so, first, I'll tell you what I believe, right?
00:51:22.000 I think it's rather well documented.
00:51:24.000 I think I've just gone through it, right?
00:51:26.000 Believe in marriage as one man, one woman, right?
00:51:28.000 I don't believe in any of this trans stuff, all that crap.
00:51:30.000 And so, but as far as where Turning Point stands, the most important way that I could address that is first and foremost, an understanding of the principles that allowed Western civilization to flourish and a commitment to the eternal natural law.
00:51:44.000 We go back to the Declaration of the Constitution, first and foremost, the laws of nature and nature's God.
00:51:50.000 How you read that and how I read that is there is a natural law and we should follow that.
00:51:54.000 So, if I were to, because you could go through a million different issues, right?
00:51:58.000 And then all of a sudden, you have like your mission statement ends up being 500,000 pages long.
00:52:02.000 So, I made a decision.
00:52:03.000 I said, you know what?
00:52:04.000 We had this at our training.
00:52:05.000 We believe in the promises of the Declaration of the Constitution, which does cover social issues, by the way.
00:52:11.000 The Declaration, God has mentioned four times that there is a supreme judge of the world, right?
00:52:17.000 And so, if you stay to just those two documents, what is Turning Point's mission?
00:52:21.000 To revive the promise of the American founding as articulated in the Declaration and the United States Constitution, aka get our country back from these people.
00:52:31.000 Now, you might say, Charlie, oh, you know, you're ramping up the intensity.
00:52:35.000 What has changed?
00:52:36.000 I got married and had a daughter.
00:52:38.000 That's what's changed.
00:52:38.000 You want to get radicalized?
00:52:40.000 Get married.
00:52:41.000 With that being said, some of our best activists, some of our hardest fighters in the trenches are people with other lifestyles than that.
00:52:50.000 You know what?
00:52:50.000 I think the world of them, and I'm happy to fight for liberty amongst people, even if I see differently on certain things that they might do in their personal life.
00:52:58.000 So, to answer that final part of your question, thank you.
00:53:00.000 Next question.
00:53:01.000 Yep.
00:53:01.000 Hi.
00:53:02.000 My name's Anne.
00:53:03.000 I go to Hillsdale College.
00:53:05.000 Greatest college in America.
00:53:06.000 It's a great place.
00:53:08.000 Thank you.
00:53:09.000 Okay.
00:53:10.000 So, first of all, I love the referencing to the obscure biblical passages.
00:53:14.000 My favorite one is the talking donkey in numbers.
00:53:17.000 Yep, that's a really good one.
00:53:18.000 Yep, that's really good one.
00:53:20.000 Lesser known one.
00:53:21.000 Okay, so I have been canvassing because there is an election this November in Ohio for something called reproductive health, and it's very vague and nonspecific.
00:53:31.000 But I was talking to somebody about how it is basically a bill that would allow children to get sex changes without telling their parents, and it would aid the people that helped them to do that.
00:53:43.000 And I was having a wonderful conversation with somebody.
00:53:45.000 He seemed like he really agreed with me.
00:53:48.000 And also, he was a trans man, a man who was turning into a woman.
00:53:52.000 But then, after he finished talking to me, he walked away and he told somebody that I initiated a conversation with him and that I was debating and arguing with him.
00:54:02.000 So, my question for you is: how do you respond when somebody is lying about what you've told them?
00:54:09.000 Because I didn't initiate a conversation, he started a conversation with me.
00:54:13.000 Yeah, I mean, look, you just got to be really careful.
00:54:15.000 Anytime you're dealing with activism or engagement with a trans group, they have deep-seated mental problems, and you got to be very careful, okay?
00:54:20.000 It's not a joke, I'm not trivializing it.
00:54:23.000 You got to be really careful, okay?
00:54:25.000 These people are not chemically balanced, they're on a cocktail of drugs.
00:54:29.000 I hope they get care compassionately, but this, you just got to be careful, right?
00:54:33.000 And so, I can't give you, you know, personal advice on that, except for the fact that I'm sorry that you were lied about.
00:54:39.000 I'm glad you're doing that kind of activism.
00:54:41.000 And if, look, if we cannot have a clear societal consensus that male and female, period, like you don't get to go after kids, especially in that regard, then like I don't even know what to tell you, right?
00:54:57.000 But happy to dialogue with you more privately.
00:55:00.000 But I will say I love that you go to Hillsdale, and I love that you're an activist simultaneously.
00:55:05.000 And tell Dr. Arne I say hi, okay?
00:55:07.000 Thank you.
00:55:07.000 Yes, where are we at?
00:55:09.000 Here?
00:55:09.000 How are you doing?
00:55:10.000 Charlie?
00:55:11.000 So, as I said earlier, I'm from Suffolk University.
00:55:13.000 It's in Boston.
00:55:14.000 You're going to transition so you can get on the website?
00:55:17.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:55:19.000 So, actually, my first exposure to Turning Point, there was one that you did a radio show with Dan Ray from WBZ.
00:55:27.000 That was like my first.
00:55:28.000 Oh, no way.
00:55:28.000 That's so good.
00:55:30.000 But so I'm studying broadcast journalism because I'd like to do something like what Dan Ray does one day.
00:55:36.000 And at my college, I write for my college paper, and I'm required to put my pronouns in my bio and my staff page.
00:55:45.000 And I really like the Tucker Carlson approach to like his whole approach.
00:55:50.000 Like, yeah, there's always going to be people that do that, but I'm that one guy that just doesn't want to do that.
00:55:54.000 I'm in one of the bluest cities in the country.
00:55:56.000 What's your advice?
00:55:58.000 If you stand for truth in that, your life's not going to be easy, right?
00:56:01.000 So you just have to know that.
00:56:03.000 It's going to be a non-stop terror campaign where they're like, why don't you do the pronoun?
00:56:07.000 Why don't you do the pronoun?
00:56:08.000 Why don't you do the pronoun?
00:56:09.000 Matt Walsh has the best progression on this, right?
00:56:11.000 It starts with mandatory tolerance, then acceptance, then celebration, then participation, right?
00:56:18.000 And so think about it.
00:56:19.000 First, you must accept the trans thing.
00:56:22.000 Let's tolerate it.
00:56:23.000 Then you must accept it.
00:56:24.000 Then you must celebrate it.
00:56:24.000 And now you have to participate it by the administration of pronouns.
00:56:28.000 Like, well, that's weird.
00:56:29.000 I thought it was all just about tolerance.
00:56:31.000 So I don't know if I want to give you advice or not, but I mean this seriously.
00:56:36.000 You might want to consider this eventually moving, right?
00:56:38.000 Like if you have a chance to get out of the Soviet Union, would you?
00:56:43.000 Right?
00:56:44.000 Because you live in Massachusetts, man.
00:56:46.000 Like, that's where you said you're, yeah, it's not good.
00:56:50.000 Like that, especially on the gender stuff, it is completely out of control, especially in Boston, which is the most academic clustered town in the country.
00:57:01.000 Yeah, it really is.
00:57:01.000 Thank you, man.
00:57:02.000 Appreciate it.
00:57:03.000 This will be the last question in the rank.
00:57:05.000 Okay.
00:57:06.000 Hello, Mr. Kirk.
00:57:07.000 My name is Abibal Hagen, and I am one of the co-presidents at Pepperdine University.
00:57:12.000 Pepperdine, yeah.
00:57:13.000 You answered my question last time about becoming a surgeon and also a mom at YWLI.
00:57:18.000 Oh, that went a little viral.
00:57:19.000 It did.
00:57:21.000 But thank you for reposting on your page.
00:57:22.000 It was super cool.
00:57:23.000 My family sent it to me, and they were like, whoa.
00:57:26.000 But anyway, I have a bit of a different question.
00:57:28.000 So at Pepperdine, there's a really big organization that's called the Global Justice Institute, and they're currently serving in Rwanda and Uganda, breaking people out of prison for crimes that they actually did not commit.
00:57:41.000 However, I joined as an ambassador to only advocate for PAUMEA negotiations in foreign countries because that's something that I'm actually passionate about.
00:57:51.000 I'm not necessarily passionate about the humanitarian acts.
00:57:53.000 I don't really have anything to do with our country.
00:57:56.000 Yeah.
00:57:56.000 So how, and there are many organizations at Pepperdine that are kind of conservative and also kind of liberal just because they have to swing both ways to have both sides of Christianity be service, like some of the students were saying.
00:58:11.000 So how should we as conservatives, conservative students, support these organizations?
00:58:17.000 Should we go all in and try to really maximize that conservative side or just not at all because they're not fully conservative?
00:58:24.000 Yeah, I mean, it depends.
00:58:26.000 I have nothing against helping people in, you know, Uganda or Rwanda.
00:58:31.000 I do, how do I say this gently?
00:58:34.000 There's a lot of good people that do that work, but I also think it's driven a lot by upper middle class white guilt in this country, where they refuse to actually recognize our own country as quickly becoming a third world country.
00:58:45.000 Like, get on a highway, any highway, and drive to the interior of the United States.
00:58:49.000 We have 110,000 people drug overdosing every single year in this country.
00:58:53.000 We have thousands of people being sex trafficked literally through our country every single day.
00:58:58.000 We're like, oh, I need to go to Rwanda or Uganda.
00:59:00.000 Like, no, okay, good on you.
00:59:03.000 But do you focus at all on your own country?
00:59:07.000 Jeremiah 29, 7, demand the welfare of the land of which you are in.
00:59:12.000 Not demand the welfare of a foreign-off land.
00:59:16.000 I'm not against it.
00:59:17.000 I'm sure they mean well, but I'm with you.
00:59:19.000 Like, can we fix our own country before we try to solve the ailments of the third world?
00:59:24.000 I just, I don't know.
00:59:27.000 So, how do you, I would involve the Paul Mia thing is really important.
00:59:31.000 The prisoners of war are missing in action.
00:59:32.000 I'm glad you're doing that.
00:59:33.000 So, that's where my own sentiment is at.
00:59:35.000 I'm not against international third world charity, but I feel as if it's been an overemphasis of Christian groups the last 20 or 30 years.
00:59:44.000 And there's kind of an indifference with the suffering that's happening in our own country.
00:59:49.000 Thank you.
00:59:49.000 Appreciate it.
00:59:50.000 Okay, a couple announcements, everybody.
00:59:53.000 The first of which, tonight, I think we have a couple slides here that I want to share.
00:59:57.000 Let's see.
00:59:58.000 The first one is tonight on this stage.
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01:00:06.000 I don't know if Jack, I think he's in Iowa or something.
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01:02:03.000 This is an extraordinary couple days.
01:02:05.000 I want to encourage you to go meet other chapter leaders from across the country.
01:02:11.000 What an amazing opportunity to go meet like-minded people, get to know them, and understand that you are in a fight for this republic with the highest possible stakes.
01:02:22.000 I'm thankful for you guys.
01:02:23.000 You guys are the fulfillment of 11 years of a vision of saying we're going to scrap, we're going to work to save Western society and Western civilization.
01:02:33.000 And guys, you are making it happen.
01:02:35.000 And I'm inspired by you.
01:02:37.000 We've had a very, very long week today.
01:02:39.000 We are up at like three o'clock this morning doing things and getting things ready for you.
01:02:43.000 And as you know, we have a little bit of a circus coming this weekend.
01:02:46.000 But this is the most important thing we are doing.
01:02:49.000 We care about you.
01:02:50.000 We're here for you.
01:02:51.000 And when the bad guys surround you on campus and call you names and try to cancel you and try to kick you off campus, we will have your back 100%.
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