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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:27.000And upon Rush's passing, Catherine, Rush's widow, gave Charlie permission to reveal that, make that public, as Charlie wanted to honor Rush Limbaugh in a very special way.
00:02:41.000And so I wanted to play just quickly here at the outset a clip from Rush Limbaugh describing the first time that he met Charlie Kirk.
00:02:54.000They brought Charlie Kirk to the golf course to meet me about a month ago.
00:03:01.000He was in town to set up this turning point thing.
00:03:03.000And I spoke with him for about a half hour.
00:03:05.000This is the kind of guy that you can see really becoming big in politics as he gets older.
00:03:15.000He just has the carriage, the personality, the charisma.
00:03:22.000You may think this sounds weird, but I remember when Bill Clinton became president, people were saying that they just knew Bill Clinton was going to be president someday in college.
00:04:16.000Remember during the World Cup and he was watching on his phone in the middle of segments in the show and he would get distracted while doing the segment?
00:04:25.000I'll never forget when we started the show and Charlie said that he aspired to be more like Rush Limbaugh and that that was sort of a northern star for Charlie.
00:04:35.000And then obviously that picture that you see on screen was.
00:05:20.000And so that's why you would see funny aspects of this.
00:05:23.000Like you'd always call him Barack Hussein Obama because Rush Limbaugh called him Barack Hussein Obama when he was listening to it in high school.
00:05:29.000Yeah, I think Lady Graham is also one of the greatest.
00:07:58.000We wanted to talk about this, of course.
00:08:00.000It's horrifying, but we've really been, we've just last week we were saying there have been a wave of transgenderism related shootings, and we said there is likely to be more.
00:08:10.000His is a little different from some of the other ones we've seen.
00:08:14.000Because it wasn't a young person who, you know, was diverted into this when they were unwell in high school.
00:08:21.000It was, it seems like it was more of a midlife crisis type thing, like, which is another type.
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00:11:53.000So they document a new report from Chapman Center on Demographics and Policy, da For the first time in decades, Pew Research notes that in the U.S., at least, Christianity has stopped its nosedive as more people begin to see the efficacy and the rewards of religious faith and practice.
00:12:49.000And yet, if you talk to people, if you're in DC, if you're in, for example, like organized conservative circles, everyone can see that there is some, there's like this revival that young people are joining in.
00:13:04.000And what I think you're seeing is you're seeing a big preference shift among the biggest kind of cultural influencers, things that go downstream.
00:13:14.000So if this was 20 years ago, you'd be saying, oh, all the highly educated are bailing on religion.
00:13:53.000A lot of, you know, the guy who cracked the human genome, devout Christian.
00:13:57.000So, this doesn't surprise me in the one sense because the gospels and the scriptures are as deep and as wide and as complex as you can go.
00:14:06.000You can take it at a 101 level, which is deeply profound, certainly.
00:14:10.000But the deeper you go into scriptures, the more tie ins, the more parallels, the more the richness just expands and explodes, the deeper you're willing to go with it.
00:14:20.000And I think there's so much, there's such rising awareness of just.
00:14:26.000I remember 20 years ago so much smugness because people had grown up in such a culturally Christian environment that it could all be thrown away.
00:14:35.000You know, we can use reason to do all these things.
00:14:37.000And the past 20 years have seen that total vindication of how important faith is as the scaffolding for life to keep everything from going to hell, basically.
00:14:48.000I think people took it for granted that the culture was sort of stable and roughly, approximately Christian.
00:14:56.000Participate in a weekly service, for example, you would still go out into the world and it would still feel approximately Christian because all of society is blessed by the Christian faith.
00:15:05.000All of Western society is blessed by the Christian faith.
00:15:07.000A lot of people have seen families' disintegration.
00:15:11.000They're seeing, actually, it is, you kind of need that, like I said, that faith scaffolding to really flourish to the maximum of your abilities in many cases.
00:15:19.000And I think for a lot of people, that's the kernel of, well, if it's so much better to have faith, I think that, especially among the highly educated, helps lead that process to, well, then.
00:15:38.000And we are going to hit the CNN doc hard.
00:15:43.000There's a new piece that CNN just released this morning attacking the Charlie Kirk Memorial as sort of ground zero of Christian nationalism rising up.
00:15:52.000As if, by the way, as if that was a bad thing.
00:15:54.000If that hits to be a ground zero for any revival, then God bless that memorial and we'll wear that with honor.
00:16:01.000And by the way, Our society, detached from the Christian faith, is like a flower in a vase.
00:16:10.000It might look beautiful for a short time, but if it's disconnected from the roots, it will die.
00:16:16.000And the same is true for the American culture, for Western civilization writ large, that if we do not reestablish a connection with the root, the tree will wither, the fruit will be bad.
00:16:29.000So this is one of the most important positive signs that you could see in the news today that young people, especially young men, because I believe.
00:16:39.000Young men going back to church, wanting to get married, wanting to have families, wanting to build a life of purpose is one of the truly most positive signs that you could see in any news clipping across the landscape of the media.
00:16:52.000The fact that it won't get more press coverage is a darn shame, but we are going to cover it here because it's truly important.
00:16:57.000It's something Charlie poured his life into, and I'm so glad to see Real Clear Investigations highlight this truly important development.
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00:18:33.000We're covering this story, though, and I thought of you because you are one of the leading voices when it comes to, I would say, the mental illness of the trans insanity that has taken over women's sports, that has taken over so many aspects of our public dialogue and discourse.
00:18:49.000And now we're seeing this repeated, troubling, you know, one after the other, incidents of shootings involving trans shooters.
00:18:57.000And it's kind of like, when are we going to.
00:19:01.000Actually, raise the alarm, call it what it is that this is an epidemic of trans violence.
00:19:05.000I wanted to get your opinion on this of how we even got here.
00:19:09.000You know, I said, I joked with you, Riley.
00:19:11.000I said, You're not a doctor, but you know, you've been studying this issue.
00:19:42.000We saw in Nashville, my backyard, where three little nine year olds, I think three adults as well, in that scenario.
00:19:49.000We saw obviously what happened in Canada, what happened in Minneapolis, and just in Rhode Island this week.
00:19:54.000This is a very destructive mental illness disease, as you said, epidemic, social epidemic, and contagion that is infecting, plaguing society.
00:20:03.000You don't have to be a doctor to speak to this.
00:20:07.000Which is the million dollar question, but I think pretty plainly, pretty simply, and at least how I understand it, I think there's a couple routes you could go here.
00:20:16.000But I think what would resonate with most people is the problem.
00:20:20.000This is the problem with the affirmation model that we have been seeing being used, whether it's the medicalization side of things, whether it's the respecting pronouns.
00:20:29.000This is the problem because think about what we are affirming.
00:20:33.000By being accepting and affirming of this, we are really only deepening the eventual damage that is lurking.
00:20:43.000And I say underneath the surface because when we're talking about this demographic, oftentimes these are people with underlying conditions such as depression, anxiety, other personality or mood disorders.
00:20:56.000And those aren't the things that are being treated by these doctors or surgeons or healthcare professionals or therapists.
00:21:02.000No, they're being affirmed to believe that they were correct to feel as if they're born wrong.
00:21:08.000And that's a horrible message that anyone, of course, children, but even adults for that matter, That's the message that they're receiving is that they're correct to feel as if they're born wrong.
00:21:18.000So it's a really horrible, horrible thing.
00:22:32.000And they believe they can threaten whoever they want.
00:22:34.000This is the ultimate top of the Impression Olympics.
00:22:37.000How many dead kids is it going to take for us to say we've probably gone too far here and we should just ask a couple questions?
00:22:44.000How many mass shootings have to happen where we probably say, wait a second, you know, can we just calm down?
00:22:50.000Yeah, you asked the same question, right?
00:22:52.000How many of these incidents is it going to take before we say the most mentally unstable, unwell, Upset, bitter, whatever the diagnosis is, how many incidents is it going to take before we stop pouring SSRIs down these people?
00:23:07.000How many hormone replacement therapies, this cocktail of drugs that we are giving the most unstable people in our society?
00:23:41.000But yeah, and talking about the SSRIs, I think that's another reason why we haven't seen, especially those who call themselves healthcare professionals, really question administering synthetic and unnatural chemicals and substances to those who identify as trans because it opens the door for broader questions to.
00:24:03.000Those SSRIs, SNRIs, you know, antidepressant medication that are overly diagnosed and overly prescribed.
00:24:12.000Now, that is not me saying that antidepressants aren't useful and beneficial for some people, but they are being prescribed at an alarming rate, especially to people among my generation.
00:24:24.000And when you look at things, and going back to talking about administering these chemicals and hormones to minors or adults for that matter, when you look at the effects of something like testosterone, what that has.
00:24:37.000Increased impulsivity, increased aggression, short temper.
00:24:41.000It really only magnifies the issues that are there as opposed to creating new ones or diminishing them.
00:24:49.000So, again, when you're talking about, which is a commonality, someone with underlying mood disorders such as OCD, such as bipolar disorder, or ADHD, whatever it is, depression, anxiety, that's what's being magnified here.
00:25:03.000And again, I think a large part of why we're seeing so many horrible tragedies committed.
00:25:08.000Yeah, and you asked a question earlier.
00:25:24.000They're going to choose what they're going to choose.
00:25:25.000But one of the storylines that we saw this morning that I think is tied into this when we talk about solutions is the rise in faith.
00:25:33.000And it's not, this is not the kids are not flocking back to watered down Christianity, they're flocking back to, The old, the good, the true, those faiths that have stood the test of time for millennia.
00:25:44.000And the Protestant churches, maybe newer, but that are preaching a strong gospel, a masculine gospel, a just straightforward, unapologetic gospel of Jesus Christ.
00:25:57.000That, I believe, is what you're starting to see in culture this pushback to this destabilization, this societal anarchy that we're seeing.
00:26:06.000And maybe speak to that, Riley, because you're a Christian, you're seeing this with young people that you speak to.
00:26:13.000Why are people flocking back to the faith, especially young people?
00:26:16.000Well, I think when analyzing religion, and I'll just speak pretty personally here, I feel a total sense of serenity and calmness and security and confidence in the stance that I've taken despite the constant attacks or death threats that are hurled my way.
00:26:35.000And honestly, Charlie was this way too.
00:26:38.000And I think that was very evident in how he conducted himself, how he's still willing to go out there knowing that threats existed.
00:26:44.000It's because he knew that what he was fighting for was the hope and the promise of eternal life.
00:26:48.000That is the only place you will ever find satisfaction.
00:26:51.000And I think oftentimes, especially when dissecting gender ideology, these people are desperately looking for their identity.
00:26:58.000They're looking for a place to find that identity.
00:27:00.000Well, I know as a Christian that the only place that you will find pure and total satisfaction is in placing your identity in Christ.
00:27:09.000And I think a lot of young people are becoming to understand that.
00:27:15.000And in that, you're seeing a shift back to.
00:27:18.000Developing that relationship with Christ, seeking salvation.
00:27:21.000And a large part of that is the legacy that Charlie Kirk left.
00:27:25.000And honestly, like, I hate talking about it like this because it seems as if, you know, in speaking of the good things that happened following Charlie's death, selfishly, like, I'd rather him still be here.
00:27:37.000But it was one of the consequences that we saw this revival, especially of young people going to church that Sunday after Charlie Kirk's assassination.
00:30:10.000Yeah, I mean, it's that classic thing where Antifa will post these World War II, like Antifa in World War II, when they would have all considered their great grandfathers the worst fascists imaginable.
00:30:31.000So CNN does a piece, Pamela Brown, who I know, talking about the radicalization of people.
00:30:39.000At Charlie's memorial, because Charlie was assassinated by a radical, by, as we talked about with Riley, somebody that was animated, at least in part, by his love affair with somebody that was trans.
00:30:54.000And instead of burning down the country, like the real radicals did, we held vigils and memorials, and people bought Bibles and they got baptized.
00:31:10.000And if you don't get as ticked off as I do watching this, I don't know.
00:31:14.000This is just really infuriating stuff.
00:31:16.000384. Memorial service was one of the most potent examples of this shift in our culture that we're experiencing right now, where a large segment of American Christians are being activated by these ideas, radicalized by these ideas that say that they are the persecuted ones and that they need to stand up for Christians' rights.
00:31:41.000Well, you know, Charlie did get assassinated.
00:31:44.000You do realize that, whoever this guy is.
00:32:06.000By the way, the only true form of Christianity is radical Christianity.
00:32:10.000There's Bible verses talking about if you're a lukewarm Christian, you will be spit out.
00:32:14.000And it's one of those books Charlie liked Tom Holland's Dominion, that we, because we swim in the ocean of.
00:32:22.000Even if you're not religious, actually, we don't recognize how fundamentally radical Christianity was from its very beginnings.
00:32:29.000That it totally remade the moral order of the Roman Empire, of the other Europeans that converted to it, of the Middle Easterners who converted to it.
00:32:38.000That everyone who ran into Christianity in the first century, the second century, the third century, for the first time, they're thinking, what in the world is this?
00:33:28.000They want radical Christianity that's boldly standing up for the principles of Jesus Christ and his death on the cross, risen from the dead on the third day, appearing before the apostles, and then 500, and then 5,000.
00:34:00.000John Adams seamlessly said the Constitution was only written for immoral and religious people.
00:34:04.000It was wholly inadequate for the people of any other.
00:34:07.000The body politic of America was so Christian and was so Protestant that our form and structure of government was built for the people that believed in Christ our Lord.
00:34:15.000One of the reasons we're living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government, and they're incompatible.
00:34:23.000So you cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population.
00:34:26.000Our little thing that we were discussing has made its way to Fox News, 394.
00:34:30.000Young men report feeling culturally dislocated or villainized by progressive secular discourse regarding masculinity.
00:34:37.000Traditional forms of Christianity, particularly Catholicism and Orthodoxy, offer a narrative of responsibility, sacrifice, and hierarchy that appeals to men seeking a defined role in a fluid world.
00:34:48.000Now, the report also breaks down weekly religious attendance by education level, and those with postgraduate degrees are at 30%.
00:36:42.000You are blessed by the fact that Christians are still driven to lead purposeful lives and get into politics, to get into business, to have families.
00:36:51.000If they don't like Christian nationalism, they are not going to like whatever comes out.
00:37:13.000Christian nationalism, I do not agree with at all.
00:37:16.000I think it's antithetical to the values of the early church.
00:37:20.000And I think, how do you reconcile the, especially white Christians in this America, marrying politics and power with their faith in this country?
00:37:37.000And then right there, that and nationalist.
00:37:39.000Where in the scriptures does a Christian, Jeremiah 29 7, demand the welfare of the nation that you are in because your welfare is tied to your nation's welfare?
00:38:01.000And this is, you know, a lot of these people that don't believe in.
00:38:05.000You know, being proudly nationalistic or patriotic, I see them as basically bleeding into the same concept.
00:38:12.000What the left wants to do is create a boogeyman that never existed until they sort of invented the term and then they use it as a cudgel to try and scare you and make you distance yourself from it.
00:38:23.000Well, listen, we're Christians and we love our nation.
00:38:26.000There's not much more to it than that.