The Charlie Kirk Show - Remembering Two Heroes, New York Times Anti-News, and AMA 258

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00:01:09.000 All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:11.000 It's March 20th, 2026.

00:01:13.000 Blake, how are we doing today?

00:01:15.000 You know, I was doing pretty well.

00:01:17.000 And then I received news that is devastating for all late millennials like myself.

00:01:23.000 We'll get to it later, I'm sure, but the Chuck Norris news.

00:01:26.000 That is the first internet meme I remember getting reported on in a newspaper, which is this paper thing that had stories in it that used to exist.

00:01:35.000 Let's start there.

00:01:36.000 Chuck Norris died to, well, at least I guess we found out about it today.

00:01:40.000 I think he died yesterday at the age of 86.

00:01:43.000 He was in Hawaii surrounded by family.

00:01:47.000 He's one of the last great action stars.

00:01:52.000 Yeah.

00:01:54.000 I think he was a lot.

00:01:54.000 He was older than people expected.

00:01:56.000 I mean, late 80s.

00:01:58.000 I feel he became super.

00:02:01.000 I feel like I associate him with the 90s, Walker, Texas Ranger.

00:02:05.000 I associate him, of course, with a lot of the internet humor that happened in the mid-2000s.

00:02:09.000 And by then, he was already a pretty old guy.

00:02:12.000 Quite the impressive figure.

00:02:14.000 Yeah, so The Octagon, 1980, Eye for an Eye, 1981, Silent Rage, 1982, Lone Wolf, Wolf McQuaid, 1983, Missing in Action, 1 through 3, and that was from 85 to 88.

00:02:26.000 Code of Silence, Invasion USA. 0.77

00:02:29.000 Andrew.

00:02:29.000 It's Walker, Texas Ranger, man.

00:02:31.000 Well, that was the 90s.

00:02:34.000 But that's because of your age.

00:02:35.000 So he actually, he was one of the most accomplished karate champions in the history of the sport, became a star with Good Guys Wear Black.

00:02:44.000 He actually was in scenes with Bruce Lee.

00:02:47.000 Bruce Lee cast him in the 1972 film Way of the Dragon.

00:02:52.000 So there's those clips right there.

00:02:54.000 So he was a phenomenal athlete and actually an accomplished martial artist.

00:03:01.000 And then he became a star.

00:03:05.000 And then he took it to Walker, Texas Ranger, which ran 200 episodes on CBS, which is pretty remarkable.

00:03:12.000 And even up until his 86th birthday, he posted a video training and sparring at 86.

00:03:18.000 So the guy was just special.

00:03:20.000 I mean, to be doing that at 86 is special.

00:03:23.000 But obviously, we don't just like him because he was a martial arts, a movie star guy.

00:03:29.000 We like to highlight these guys.

00:03:31.000 He was a patriot, and I think I remember it actually catching a lot of people off guard because this was the Bush era, which was a peak of everyone in Hollywood, every celebrity being left-wing.

00:03:44.000 And this is when all the jokes are going on the internet.

00:03:46.000 If you're under 20, you may not know these things.

00:03:48.000 There was this whole trend of making, you know, viral Chuck Norris jokes.

00:03:52.000 When Chuck Norris does a push-up, he's not pushing himself up.

00:03:55.000 He's pushing the earth down.

00:03:57.000 When Chuck Norris jumps in water, he doesn't get wet.

00:04:00.000 The water gets Chuck Norris.

00:04:01.000 There's like a hundred of these different jokes.

00:04:03.000 And this is what passed for humor in the Bush era.

00:04:06.000 But as I said, it was a very liberal time then.

00:04:10.000 Very few celebrities, even if they were right-leaning, would openly say so.

00:04:16.000 And then it's 2000, it's early 2008.

00:04:19.000 It's the primaries for the presidency.

00:04:21.000 And Mike Huckabee is running for president, making a long shot bid, and he's campaigning in Iowa.

00:04:29.000 And it turns out that Chuck Norris is a Mike Huckabee supporter, and they cut one of the more memorable ads I think we will ever see in the history of American politics.

00:04:40.000 Should we just play it?

00:04:41.000 It's clip number one.

00:04:43.000 My plan is secure the border.

00:04:45.000 Two words.

00:04:46.000 Chuck Norris.

00:04:51.000 Mike Huckabee's a lifelong hunter who'll protect our Second Amendment rights.

00:04:56.000 There's no chin behind Chuck Norris's beard, only another fist.

00:05:00.000 Mike Huckabee wants to put the IRS out of business.

00:05:03.000 When Chuck Norris does a push-up, he isn't lifting himself up.

00:05:07.000 He's pushing the earth down.

00:05:09.000 Mike's a principled, authentic conservative.

00:05:13.000 Chuck Norris doesn't endorse.

00:05:15.000 He tells America how it's going to be.

00:05:20.000 I'm Mike Huckabee, and I approve this message.

00:05:23.000 So did Chuck.

00:05:24.000 Chuck Norris approved, and it's pretty good for 2008 Yeah, and I should add, you know, he was, Chuck Norris was a Christian. 0.94

00:05:37.000 I think he wrote several, I think he wrote Christian books, you know, in addition to any memoirs.

00:05:43.000 He also came, he wrote eloquently about his political beliefs for years.

00:05:47.000 And in 2016, he actually tried to rally everybody around President Trump.

00:05:52.000 Obviously, this was an era of never Trumpism.

00:05:55.000 The party was very divided.

00:05:56.000 It was sort of a hostile takeover of the conservative movement.

00:05:59.000 And he said, if reluctant Republicans and other freedom-loving citizens don't rally now behind GOP nominee Donald Trump, we could elect Hillary Clinton by default or by those who merely stay home on election day.

00:06:13.000 And he said he'd only met Trump once, 42 years prior during his retirement event at the World Martial Arts Champion.

00:06:20.000 That was it, quote, I haven't seen or spoken to him since.

00:06:23.000 However, I will tell you I liked him.

00:06:25.000 He was very friendly and sincere.

00:06:27.000 I truly believe that the people who have a negative view of Trump will be pleasantly surprised when he becomes the leader of our country.

00:06:34.000 So Chuck Norris was not only courageous when it came to fighting in the octagon.

00:06:40.000 Well, it wasn't the octagon.

00:06:42.000 It was martial arts.

00:06:43.000 He was a karate champion.

00:06:45.000 But he was courageous when it came to expressing his own beliefs.

00:06:48.000 A true American icon dead at 86.

00:06:51.000 He will be missed.

00:06:52.000 I also want to pay attention to or draw some of your attention to Jeff Webb.

00:06:58.000 Jeff Webb was the founder of Varsity Brands.

00:07:01.000 He was a friend of Charlie's, a friend of Turning Points.

00:07:04.000 He died at 76 yesterday, tragically, sporting accident.

00:07:08.000 And he is just a dear, dear friend of mine for years, always faithful, always kind, always generous with his time.

00:07:17.000 Let's go ahead and play some clips.

00:07:19.000 We actually did a Only in America documentary about Jeff Webb at one point.

00:07:24.000 Play Cut 4.

00:07:25.000 Jeff Webb is kind of the personification of the American dreams.

00:07:29.000 I'm joined now by Jeff Webb, who is the founder and creator of Varsity Spirit.

00:07:34.000 Providing a platform and a showcase for outstanding young people to really present as they can do.

00:07:44.000 He created a whole brand where none existed around high school cheer, created competitions, didn't do it to get rich.

00:07:53.000 He just wanted to give young people an opportunity where they could have community, where they could share values, where they could compete.

00:08:01.000 And he's truly an all-American story of success.

00:08:04.000 Let's play cut five. 0.92

00:08:05.000 What drives us is doing something great and building a great organization and really making a contribution to young people in this country.

00:08:14.000 Young people today are not lazy, as some people like to say.

00:08:17.000 Millennials, just they're not lazy.

00:08:19.000 I work with thousands of them every year.

00:08:21.000 They're not lazy.

00:08:23.000 They just, they just, they need some help in finding their way and they need some help with our institutions and making them more available to everybody.

00:08:32.000 Yeah, that was a real big loss for the Turning Point family.

00:08:37.000 Jeff Webb, been around for years.

00:08:40.000 As a matter of fact, the first event I ever went to with Turning Point and Charlie, Jeff was there.

00:08:46.000 So Jeff predates my time with Charlie and Turning Point.

00:08:49.000 And it's just a genuinely good-hearted, kind man, generous man.

00:08:56.000 And again, passed away too soon at 76, a sporting accident.

00:09:00.000 And it's a reminder that we never know when your time is going to come and to live each day to the fullest and be grateful for the time that we have with the people that we love.

00:09:13.000 A terrible reminder of it, genuinely.

00:09:15.000 He also, at one point, was the publisher and owner of the post-millennial and human events.

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00:10:35.000 Blake, there is a story that you are very passionate about out of the New York Times.

00:10:39.000 And by the way, I'm passionate about one I just saw, so we don't have it prepped for the show, but leave it to this small tease.

00:10:47.000 There will be no post-presidential peace for Donald Trump.

00:10:50.000 They are actively plotting to impeach presidential projects.

00:10:52.000 We'll get into that.

00:10:55.000 Because I mean, we've got a lot.

00:10:57.000 So the one I want to hit, there's endless reasons to fixate on the press, but this is the one that got my attention because it was going around today.

00:11:05.000 It's actually from a couple days ago, but it's getting attention today.

00:11:09.000 It's an essay in the New York Times.

00:11:11.000 We study mass shooters.

00:11:13.000 Something terrifying is happening online.

00:11:16.000 And when I first saw the headline, I thought, oh, well, this is great.

00:11:19.000 Maybe the New York Times, because the New York Times will sometimes come in very belatedly and they will admit a trend that is going on and like give for the left to notice things.

00:11:29.000 And we've noticed a certain trend among shooters, which is we have transgender shooters right now that are radicalized on Discord, on Tumblr, on Reddit, on these various spaces. 0.53

00:11:43.000 They're getting more violent. 0.98

00:11:44.000 They're getting more demented. 0.87

00:11:45.000 They're really being enabled.

00:11:46.000 But the New York Times summarizes it this way.

00:11:49.000 I'm going to read a pretty extended excerpt from this.

00:11:52.000 We are witnessing the emergence of a new paradigm.

00:11:55.000 A mass shooter, no less despairing about life's hardships, but younger, highly connected to online social networks, and seemingly convinced that in acting violently, he or she is carrying out the only meaningful act possible in a world devoid of meaning.

00:12:11.000 Consider a recent example.

00:12:13.000 Last month in Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia, an 18-year-old killed her.

00:12:19.000 mother and half-brother at home, then opened fire at a secondary school.

00:12:23.000 She attended, killing five students and an educator.

00:12:27.000 In the aftermath of the shooting, amid expected evidence of the shooter's despair, there emerged an alarming trail of online activity.

00:12:33.000 On Roblox, the shooter had created a game simulating a mass shooting.

00:12:37.000 Her TikTok account reportedly featured reposted videos of a mass shooter.

00:12:42.000 She belonged to a gore forum where users can post uncensored videos of violence and so on and so on.

00:12:50.000 Never mentioned anywhere in this article is the syllable trans.

00:12:57.000 Never mentions that this woman who did this shooting was actually a biological male who had become convinced that she was a woman and then also became convinced that she had to do a mass shooting.

00:13:08.000 Later in the article, there was, they mention in the Annunciation Catholic School, last August, a 23-year-old fired through the windows of Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis.

00:13:21.000 She killed two children and wounded more than 20 others.

00:13:24.000 The inscriptions on her weapons told the story of the online community of which she had been a part.

00:13:31.000 And then they mention quoting the Columbine shooters and so on.

00:13:34.000 Again, never mentions this is a transgender shooter.

00:13:38.000 Never once.

00:13:39.000 So, Andrew, this is just, it's such a perfect example of this pattern that exists in the modern press and call it, you might call it boring news, anti-news.

00:13:51.000 You can read all of this.

00:13:52.000 You can learn all of these facts.

00:13:54.000 And yet, unless you're like us where you know the background of this, you're basically being actively misled because they are not telling you something the authors of this story 100% knew and they are taking efforts to avoid sharing it with you.

00:14:08.000 It's like when you read a New York Times article that'll talk about a major crime that's committed and they have to wait until 18 paragraphs in before you tell them they mention their name or they might mention that they're a migrant, they're not from the United States.

00:14:24.000 It's just, it's truly unbelievable.

00:14:26.000 It kind of reminds me of our conversation with Lydia Moynihan from the New York Post yesterday because she has to face these people on CNN every day where she described some of the reporting that you had to do in the mainstream press to ultimately tell the truth.

00:14:42.000 You had to eventually acknowledge the truth.

00:14:45.000 And all these journalists were loath to do it.

00:14:47.000 Nobody wanted that assignment because they would essentially not be allowed back into polite society and the cocktail parties in the Acela corridor.

00:14:57.000 So this is one thing to understand about the mainstream news media is it's like a giant mean girls club at a high school. 0.87

00:15:05.000 So these people refuse to acknowledge a basic fundamental biological truth that these are not women that are shooting up these schools or houses or whatever. 0.99

00:15:15.000 These are men.

00:15:16.000 These are violent men that have been deluded by a brain rot to think that they are women and by lots and lots of medications that are being pumped into their body, twisting their brain, twisting their mind, and they won't admit a basic fundamental truth that could actually get to the bottom of it and maybe make it stop.

00:15:34.000 So if your goal in reporting is to expose truth and to affect the world and make it a better place, you're abandoning your central reason for being simply because you want to keep getting invited to other cocktail parties or get that next job.

00:15:48.000 It's actually pretty disgraceful the amount of lying that goes on and the propaganda, the agit prop here.

00:15:55.000 And at some level, you just have to say, are you doing this intentionally to upset us?

00:16:00.000 Because you know the underlying truth of this story and refuse to report it.

00:16:06.000 It's a bastardization of the calling, which is a high calling to report truth.

00:16:12.000 And most of these people have no concept of what that truth is. 0.89

00:16:14.000 And it's disgusting.

00:16:17.000 I'm not shocked, though, Blake, to be fair.

00:16:20.000 Yeah, no, I mean, it's not shocking.

00:16:22.000 It's a core element of the press, especially if you're the New York Times, because a lot of news outlets, they're just scrambling to get whatever clicks they can.

00:16:31.000 The New York Times actually has the institutional power and it is well aware of it to shape what it is okay to believe, what it's now acceptable to talk about, what it's unacceptable to talk about.

00:16:45.000 And Charlie himself, he liked to point out that this is like the big sacred cow is this like transgender cult that is devouring the nation's children. 1.00

00:16:56.000 And even when they're willing to come out and say so and say that there's this new dark shooting online, they can't mention the giant elephant in the room.

00:17:05.000 In fact, let's play that very quick before the break.

00:17:08.000 Clip 10.

00:17:09.000 Trans people have been made into kind of the sacred cow of American politics.

00:17:13.000 You can't question it.

00:17:16.000 You can't criticize it.

00:17:19.000 They believe they can threaten whoever they want.

00:17:21.000 This is the ultimate top of the Impression Olympics. 0.81

00:17:24.000 How many dead kids is it going to take for us to say we've probably gone too far here and we should just ask a couple questions?

00:17:30.000 How many mass shootings have to happen where we probably say, wait a second, you know, can we just calm down?

00:17:37.000 All right, without further ado, Steve Dace is the man, a really just become a great friend and a trusted voice sounding board.

00:17:45.000 So, Steve, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:17:47.000 Welcome back.

00:17:49.000 I'm tempted to ask you about your bracket because you are a big sports guy, but we already know it's disaster because everything's terrible on the bracketology this year.

00:17:59.000 Everything's blown up.

00:18:00.000 So we'll just skip that.

00:18:01.000 I want to know: how are you interpreting this moment that we are in, right?

00:18:06.000 There is a big debate about how divided MAGA is.

00:18:08.000 What do you think?

00:18:09.000 I think on a high level, we're the last outpost of Western civilization.

00:18:15.000 We're all that's left.

00:18:16.000 Or, you know, sometimes we used to call it Christendom before we gave it that term.

00:18:20.000 And so I think that there is a unique spiritual war happening right now for the direction of this country.

00:18:27.000 And I think that's the backdrop of everything.

00:18:29.000 And then I think we're coming out of really maybe since you have that period during the 60s, Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, MLK assassinations, RFK assassinations.

00:18:41.000 That's before any of our lifetimes.

00:18:42.000 I wasn't alive yet.

00:18:43.000 My mom was just a teenager when all that was going on.

00:18:46.000 So in our era, this is the last five years beginning with the events of COVID on March 16th, 2020.

00:18:54.000 The last five years collectively is the most that any of this generation of Americans has been systemically lied to.

00:19:01.000 That's broken a lot of our abilities to trust and to think.

00:19:05.000 Skepticism and nihilism often get confused for one another.

00:19:08.000 One is healthy, one is not.

00:19:10.000 And then on top of that, we have this last generation of the church just kind of took the generation off.

00:19:17.000 Kind of from the original religious right in Francis Schaefer.

00:19:21.000 We decided to sell Hawaiian shirts with Rick Warren and books with Joe Losteen and plant churches in cities like New York, like Tim Keller, and have like no cultural influence at all, okay?

00:19:33.000 In the most important city in America, and now it's an Islamist refuge, right? 1.00

00:19:37.000 So, and then the schools decided we can't critically think anymore because then the kids may outthink us and the very dogmas we're trying to impress upon them.

00:19:45.000 So, when you stir all of that into a witch's brew and into a cauldron, guys, and you pour it out, I think you have the current ecosystem that we're all operating in.

00:19:54.000 And then, on top of that, we had who many of us thought was going to be our generational leader here assassinated.

00:20:00.000 And so, when you throw that, so now the fulcrum of this, the plum, the plumb line, you know, that I've talked about that, I think, every time I've been on here with you guys since Charlie's murder, that meme of Charlie is the giant Hoover-like dam holding back right-wing retardation. 0.93

00:20:15.000 And then, so we can learn to unite and win.

00:20:17.000 And so, when you throw all that in here, I think that's where you have this witch's brew that explains a lot of the various trend lines and headlines that we're seeing right now.

00:20:27.000 Blake, your thoughts?

00:20:29.000 I mean, I don't want to muscle in on your guys' Protestant territory here, but Catholics have long had a different approach, obviously.

00:20:39.000 I mean, obviously, we want to affect the culture, but there's much more, of course, unity of organization.

00:20:44.000 But I guess what I have definitely appreciated in this cultural moment is like we've had that, we've had that discussion, especially on the Thursday show.

00:20:54.000 Like, is America culturally a Protestant country, or should it be?

00:21:00.000 Even kind of among the Catholics.

00:21:01.000 And I actually think it basically is.

00:21:03.000 One thing I've become very alert to is the way that Catholics in America are very different from Catholics abroad. 0.99

00:21:12.000 Like, we'll have our sort of special Latin parishes and all of the Latin-only ones, like where you definitely get groups that still want to affect the culture by breaking away from it a little more and being more assertive.

00:21:24.000 And we do need to have that.

00:21:28.000 Yeah, I mean, it's interesting.

00:21:30.000 I wasn't even interpreting anything of what Steve said in a Protestant versus Catholic sort of bifurcation.

00:21:35.000 I was thinking of the Rick Warren, the church planning stuff.

00:21:37.000 I guess you don't have a Catholic church plant operation.

00:21:40.000 And it's kind of funny.

00:21:42.000 Like, there is a lot of chatter about it, how that works, and like, you know, the flow, but you know, churches rise and fall and decay.

00:21:48.000 It's just, it's, it's, it's something I've become very alert to just really in the past year learning about it.

00:21:53.000 And so I was, you know, I was listening to a podcast about the history of that.

00:21:56.000 It's just, it's very new to me.

00:21:58.000 You know, it's interesting.

00:21:59.000 I did Ross Dalthit's podcast, a New York Times columnist.

00:22:02.000 He wrote a book called Bad Religion, and he talked about the vibrancy of the American church throughout the years has been the fact that there is this sort of competition for Pew seats, right?

00:22:15.000 So when one denomination sort of falls off and loses their way, then another one will tend to fill the gap.

00:22:22.000 And that has been basically marked by Reform theology.

00:22:26.000 It's been marked by charismatics.

00:22:28.000 Different denominations and church movements would come up and fill that void.

00:22:33.000 And so, yeah, America does retain its Protestant sort of ethos, its character.

00:22:40.000 And I think that we have remained as vibrant as we have while the rest of the Western world has sort of fallen off because we have a competition for eyeballs.

00:22:48.000 I hate to put it that bluntly, but that's essentially what it is.

00:22:52.000 And I think, you know, you think of the book of Revelation when you talk about the God will snuff out the lampstands and, you know, ones that are preaching the truth and lifting up the name of Jesus will take its place.

00:23:06.000 I sort of am still holding on to the fact that there are revival type energies that we are seeing.

00:23:13.000 And you've seen some of this in your neck of the woods as well, Steve.

00:23:17.000 You know, you've seen, we did the pick up the mic tour that's come near near your home.

00:23:22.000 And we've done where we've got these make heaven crowded tour stops that are going all across the country.

00:23:27.000 They're all packed out.

00:23:29.000 And I mean, at some level, I hate to devolve the conversation to such a place, but we are at a point where we either get revival or I'm afraid of what the future will hold.

00:23:39.000 I think we are firmly ensconced in revival or bus territory.

00:23:43.000 Now, the form of it, you know, we have a tendency, you know, there's a difference, I always say, between tradition and nostalgia.

00:23:49.000 Tradition is where you look back on how, you know, truth, what's good, true, and beautiful has worked itself out throughout human history.

00:23:58.000 What the Creator has revealed are those things.

00:24:02.000 And those things give you confidence that if applied in a contemporary way for the time in which you live, they're timeless and can work again.

00:24:11.000 Right.

00:24:11.000 And so I view tradition as a motivating factor.

00:24:14.000 I view nostalgia as a paralyzing one.

00:24:16.000 So it's got to look exactly the same way that it looked before.

00:24:19.000 Otherwise, it's very foreign to us and this can't be how things work.

00:24:23.000 And so, you know, when I say without another great awakening, long term we're doomed, it doesn't mean that it has to be the exact same playbook as the great awakenings of the 18th century.

00:24:34.000 But without that sort of systemic revival, I don't disagree.

00:24:38.000 I mean, the systems are too far gone.

00:24:41.000 We have, and now a lot of our own people, I was with Lucas Miles, my good friend from TPUSA Faith yesterday at Alan Jackson's church in Nashville and spoke to a group of pastors there.

00:24:54.000 And what I said to them, the number one thing we need you guys to do right now, frankly, is to teach our people how to think.

00:25:00.000 That even before now we get to what I want to do, which is worldview formation and belief installation.

00:25:06.000 Do I have permission to think?

00:25:09.000 And we're kind of in this era right now where I've been so betrayed by official sources that even when the guys I voted for now control the official sources, I still think they're betraying me.

00:25:18.000 I mean, they might be.

00:25:19.000 I mean, I don't know.

00:25:20.000 But, you know, what would be the metric?

00:25:22.000 You can't skepticism in and of itself.

00:25:24.000 No, some reactionaryism is good, right?

00:25:26.000 Someone breaks into your home and wants to harm you and your family, react, right?

00:25:30.000 Don't just pontificate, react, right?

00:25:32.000 But if reactionaryism is all you do, right?

00:25:35.000 Well, so Lindsey Graham likes shamrock shakes too, so I'm just not going to have them anymore.

00:25:39.000 I mean, we've got to have a more contemplate, you know, a more complicated and sophisticated epistemology than that.

00:25:47.000 And I think that a lot of us in America right now don't know what to think or how to think.

00:25:53.000 We just think we can't trust any of our thinkers.

00:25:56.000 And we've got to fix that.

00:25:58.000 Otherwise, I'm not sure how we can sustain ourselves moving forward.

00:26:01.000 I mean, I tend to think that we're in a sifting moment.

00:26:04.000 Totally agree.

00:26:05.000 Totally agree.

00:26:06.000 I think this is why so many people look around and they don't know what to make of it.

00:26:10.000 It's because it hasn't settled yet.

00:26:12.000 I agree.

00:26:12.000 And sometimes that just takes some time.

00:26:15.000 Yeah.

00:26:16.000 And, you know, we went from a point where we said you can't trust the experts to we're going to only trust people that are not experts.

00:26:24.000 Right.

00:26:25.000 I mean, if you think about that.

00:26:26.000 There's downsides to that.

00:26:27.000 Yeah, there's downsides.

00:26:29.000 You know, at some point, I remember I'm reminded of a moment after Student Action Summit last year where Charlie took a bunch of incoming because at Student Action Summit, we basically were as loud as anybody in the country about the Epstein files. 0.56

00:26:42.000 We wanted to see transparency.

00:26:44.000 It was basically what the whole event became about.

00:26:47.000 And then on Monday, Charlie told me, he's like, you know, I think they got the memo.

00:26:53.000 And he said on the show, we're going to trust our friends in the government, meaning people that we helped get in place and we're going to give them some bandwidth to go.

00:27:02.000 Man, the blowback was instantaneous.

00:27:05.000 And what he was saying is like, at some point, we have to empower the people that we helped elect, that we helped put into positions of power to get this done and get it done the right way.

00:27:15.000 We could argue until we're blue in the face whether that happened or not.

00:27:18.000 But at some point, there has to be a middle ground where people use common sense.

00:27:23.000 And I don't know that we're at a point where anybody's ready to do that yet.

00:27:27.000 And I love what you're saying, Steve, is that we need to teach a whole generation to think again, to use their common sense.

00:27:33.000 I want to get into two things here in this segment.

00:27:36.000 I want you to distill that idea more, why it's so important in this sifting moment that we find ourselves in.

00:27:43.000 And then I want to lay out the stakes because there's a chilling new article out of New Republic, which is a far-left rag.

00:27:51.000 But they lay out the stakes here pretty clearly.

00:27:54.000 They say there will be no post-presidential peace for Donald Trump.

00:27:58.000 They even compare his sins and scandals and crimes with the shocking likeness. of the charges laid out in the Declaration of Independence against the last American king.

00:28:10.000 So the stakes could not be higher right now.

00:28:12.000 And yes, there's the graphic.

00:28:14.000 There will be no peace for President Trump.

00:28:17.000 My question to you is this sifting moment.

00:28:20.000 What should our audience do with this moment of angst?

00:28:25.000 Well, let's talk about what we think the sifting is first.

00:28:28.000 I think what you're seeing is I think COVID was a sifting.

00:28:31.000 I think George Floyd was a sifting.

00:28:33.000 I think the latest sifting was Charlie's assassination.

00:28:37.000 And whenever you see, I think that's God moving.

00:28:40.000 You see this throughout the biblical narrative.

00:28:43.000 I mean, the greatest sifting of all, the formation of the Christian church, right?

00:28:47.000 Okay.

00:28:47.000 And so whenever there's a sifting, it's because a mobilization is about to happen.

00:28:52.000 But first, all right, the gardener is going to prune his garden.

00:28:55.000 We're going to pluck some weeds out.

00:28:56.000 First, you know, the general is going to make sure that he has the right troops that are actually trained for the battle ahead.

00:29:02.000 And that's a painful process.

00:29:03.000 And we are undergoing this right now.

00:29:05.000 And I think the sifting is, will you put your faith in God and in his word?

00:29:12.000 And then will you follow facts?

00:29:15.000 I think that's the sifting that is taking place right now.

00:29:18.000 Okay.

00:29:19.000 Because there's some real Matthew 2024 stuff going on right now, which is, man, if those days were not shortened, even the elect would be deceived.

00:29:25.000 I mean, the amount of AI and everything else that's going on right now, the amount of false headlines that's going on that it's exposed right now, we've never been more bombarded with information in human history and more of it wrong than we are right now.

00:29:37.000 Right.

00:29:38.000 And, you know, I sometimes get these perpetual reactionaries to come back at me and say, well, we're only doing what you did during COVID.

00:29:45.000 All right, Steve.

00:29:46.000 And I'm like, no, you're not.

00:29:47.000 What I did during COVID was actually take the government's own data and show they were lying to you.

00:29:51.000 They weren't showing you their own data.

00:29:53.000 I can't do a seroprevalence exam.

00:29:55.000 I don't know how to do a study like that.

00:29:57.000 I can't give you, you know, itemized mortality data on COVID, you know, broken down by demographic.

00:30:03.000 I don't have that data.

00:30:04.000 I took it from the CDC.

00:30:06.000 I took it from foreign government departments of health, and then I shone the light on their data that they didn't want to show people.

00:30:12.000 In other words, I used facts.

00:30:14.000 I didn't do endless contemplative speculations and, well, just asking questions and maybe so's and did God really says.

00:30:23.000 And that's what we're all kind of undergoing right now.

00:30:26.000 And we're calling that critical thinking.

00:30:27.000 And so I think we're watching a very painful sifting process go through on our side.

00:30:32.000 And on their side, they are in lockstep right now.

00:30:35.000 I mean, you have a fully formed, weaponized religion of the state, the spirit of the age manifested in government.

00:30:41.000 It has done this all throughout human history.

00:30:43.000 It has manifested itself in human governments all throughout history.

00:30:47.000 And you're watching that now happen in our history as well.

00:30:51.000 And so I think what we should be praying for, frankly, guys, is for the sifting to speed up a little bit.

00:30:55.000 All right, Lord, can we get this sifting?

00:30:57.000 Can we reach its conclusion?

00:30:59.000 All right, so that we don't fear that we are falling so far behind here to the organized, to the organized evil we're up against that we can't possibly catch up.

00:31:07.000 Well, Steve, what I kind of find myself thinking in terms of the great sifting, it's, as you say, we have the sifting in terms of what, you know, are people able to maintain their, call it maybe mental composure, mental discipline to not fall for fake things on one end or complete propaganda on the other end.

00:31:25.000 But I also think of the sifting like in society itself, that everything is so disordering and disorienting to people.

00:31:32.000 A lot of people are kind of crashing out of society.

00:31:35.000 That's the, you know, the aimless lost youth.

00:31:37.000 They're not able to get careers off the ground.

00:31:40.000 They're not able to have families.

00:31:41.000 They're not able to really muster communities together.

00:31:43.000 And where I think a real sifting is taking place is people who are able to attach to a community like that.

00:31:50.000 That used to be almost everyone.

00:31:52.000 There was some sort of community you could attach to.

00:31:55.000 But now there are people who are just going to never have that happen.

00:31:58.000 They will live their whole lives that way.

00:31:59.000 And then they'll basically select out because they'll never have families.

00:32:03.000 They'll never have kids.

00:32:04.000 And the little communities, which in many cases will be Christian communities, will be churches. 0.85

00:32:09.000 They're going to have immense outsize importance, immense outsize power in the future, just because they will be the ones who held together while everything else was flying apart.

00:32:20.000 I think that's an absolute answer to that.

00:32:22.000 I think that's a brilliant observation and forecast, Blake.

00:32:26.000 I completely agree.

00:32:27.000 And I think on one hand, the older men, those of us entering our third act play a huge role in this.

00:32:35.000 You know, I've seen it with my own son.

00:32:37.000 All right.

00:32:38.000 He went looking for a job, didn't like this job, didn't like that job.

00:32:41.000 Now he lies a job that he really likes.

00:32:43.000 Right.

00:32:43.000 And his entire perspective on I'm doing something that I enjoy.

00:32:49.000 I'm contributing something.

00:32:50.000 I'm earning a living.

00:32:52.000 It's completely just, I mean, he's gotten reconnected back into the church again.

00:32:58.000 He's involved in a really good young adults group.

00:33:01.000 He's actually going to a young adults group at another church.

00:33:04.000 And so why is he doing that?

00:33:05.000 Well, you use that.

00:33:06.000 That's the word that you use, community.

00:33:08.000 All right.

00:33:08.000 And so now he has found a work environment that he can be productive and rewarded for being productive and doesn't shame him for his belief system.

00:33:16.000 And then he's going to places where he has peer groups that share his belief system.

00:33:20.000 And that sense of community, that sense of attachment, I mean, I can just see his entire outlook on things has dramatically improved just in the last couple of months because of everything that you just said.

00:33:31.000 And I think it is imperative for us as older men now.

00:33:34.000 We have to finish.

00:33:36.000 I know I keep harping on this too because I think it keeps being true. 0.99

00:33:39.000 We have to finish well.

00:33:41.000 We have to show the younger men that if you stick to it, I mean, my wife wants to write an autobiography.

00:33:46.000 I married a mailroom clerk.

00:33:47.000 That's what I was when we got married.

00:33:49.000 All right.

00:33:50.000 The idea that I was going to do this for a living or get to write best-selling books or produce a movie.

00:33:55.000 No one would have looked at the man that she married 28 years ago and thought that's how this was going to turn out.

00:34:00.000 Right.

00:34:01.000 And all of us have some kinds of those success stories unless we truly are born into a handful of elite families.

00:34:07.000 And so I think for the younger men to see us finish well, to finish the race, not train in our wives for the 39-year-old or 42-year-old assistant, all right? 0.98

00:34:16.000 Not do something stupid or reckless with their inheritance. 0.63

00:34:18.000 And in fact, maybe give it to them early when they're young and married and they're struggling, when they really need it then, not when they're 40, 45 and I'm dead. 0.99

00:34:25.000 And by then they're probably are hopefully established.

00:34:28.000 These are things that as the older generation, we need to be looking for what are opportunities now to backfill retcon, the American dream, so that when we then say to the younger generation, hey, you know, sack up, get tougher, stick in there, we give them evidence of how you can still be successful if you do that.

00:34:46.000 Yeah, I think that's beautiful.

00:34:48.000 I couldn't agree more because everything that you both just described is going to be countered with countless online communities that will lead to brain rot, lead young people astray.

00:35:01.000 And we have to be leading forth.

00:35:02.000 Education is leading forth, leading towards the truth, the truth of scripture, the truth of our faith.

00:35:08.000 Steve Dace, thank you so much, my friend.

00:35:10.000 I think this was actually a really important conversation.

00:35:13.000 I hope the audience got a lot out of it.

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00:36:33.000 First question is Caleb and Michelle.

00:36:37.000 Love Caleb and Michelle.

00:36:38.000 How are you guys?

00:36:39.000 Welcome to the Charlie.

00:36:40.000 Oh, and we have Danny.

00:36:40.000 I've had the one before, but not in a while.

00:36:43.000 It's been a while.

00:36:44.000 Caleb, relatively recently.

00:36:45.000 Yeah.

00:36:46.000 How are you, Caleb?

00:36:47.000 Hey, we're doing really, really well.

00:36:49.000 Thank you.

00:36:50.000 How are you guys?

00:36:52.000 Oh, we're doing great.

00:36:53.000 Doing great.

00:36:54.000 It's Friday.

00:36:55.000 So it is Friday.

00:36:57.000 So a year ago, a year ago, we called in and we talked to Charlie about his March Madness bracket.

00:37:04.000 And we're watching the tournament right now.

00:37:07.000 We're doing a Charlie thing.

00:37:08.000 It's on over there while we're on the stream here.

00:37:11.000 And missing him more at this time because I loved hearing him talk about how much he loved basketball.

00:37:16.000 So anyway, the question is: who do you have winning in your tournament and how are your brackets doing?

00:37:22.000 I'm really glad we have Danny for this.

00:37:24.000 You refuse to join our office brackets.

00:37:26.000 I am a huge Scrooge on March Madness.

00:37:29.000 I am, this is an underrated fact about me.

00:37:31.000 I'm kind of a basketball hater.

00:37:32.000 I don't, I like, don't like it as a sport.

00:37:35.000 Like, you know, I have my little bit of sort of autism and J stuff.

00:37:38.000 I don't like the design of the sport.

00:37:39.000 I don't like watching basketball.

00:37:41.000 And so I like revolt against March Madness and refuse.

00:37:45.000 I don't know who the number one seeds are.

00:37:47.000 I don't know who's in the tournament.

00:37:49.000 Oh, my goodness.

00:37:49.000 No winner.

00:37:50.000 I'm a big Scrooge.

00:37:52.000 You have Duke that taking fun.

00:37:54.000 Michelle Tyler.

00:37:55.000 Duke taking it all.

00:37:56.000 Yeah, that's Michelle's.

00:37:58.000 You have Duke.

00:37:59.000 There's like a guy in every pool, Andrew, who has Duke taking it all every single year.

00:38:03.000 I've never, ever, in any bracket I've ever built had Duke taking it all.

00:38:08.000 They lost yesterday, though.

00:38:10.000 They probably should have lost yesterday.

00:38:12.000 They should have.

00:38:13.000 But, Danny, who do you got?

00:38:15.000 Danny's a big sports guy.

00:38:17.000 Yeah, I have Arizona winning it all.

00:38:18.000 How hard did you have?

00:38:20.000 Do you actually believe that?

00:38:21.000 Or is it because you live in Arizona?

00:38:24.000 No, they're a one seed.

00:38:25.000 Like, I actually believe that.

00:38:26.000 They're pretty good.

00:38:27.000 I had Ohio State losing in the second round to Duke.

00:38:30.000 I was pretty honest there.

00:38:31.000 I didn't have him going too far.

00:38:33.000 I'm a big Ohio State fan, but yeah, they're not a basketball school right now.

00:38:37.000 Yeah, TCU.

00:38:38.000 Are they a basketball school?

00:38:40.000 They were a powerhouse about 10 to 15 years ago.

00:38:43.000 Oh, how many titles did they win?

00:38:45.000 They went to a few Final Fours.

00:38:47.000 Titles, not so much, but yeah.

00:38:52.000 That's all right.

00:38:52.000 Caleb, who do you got?

00:38:54.000 Who you got taking it all?

00:38:59.000 I didn't pick a winner yet.

00:39:00.000 I have like, I don't know.

00:39:02.000 This is probably a long shot, but Gonzaga or Yukon.

00:39:06.000 Wait, how do you not pick a winner after the tournament?

00:39:08.000 That's not how the bracket works.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, Caleb.

00:39:12.000 You're doing it wrong.

00:39:14.000 I am doing it wrong.

00:39:16.000 You're doing it wrong.

00:39:17.000 This sounds like how do you think about Michigan?

00:39:19.000 I'm going to have a secret bracket, and then I can reveal it after the tournament is over and thereby.

00:39:24.000 Oh, yeah, like we totally trust that.

00:39:26.000 Sounds like the way Democrats like to do it.

00:39:28.000 Do you want to lie about that sort of thing, Andrew?

00:39:31.000 Well, I don't know.

00:39:33.000 Yeah, Michigan could do really well.

00:39:35.000 Yeah.

00:39:36.000 Interesting to see.

00:39:37.000 If Arizona wins, we're basically not going to have a studio when that day comes.

00:39:42.000 Michael's already saying he's wilding out.

00:39:45.000 We're going to lose him.

00:39:46.000 We might not have a show if Arizona wins.

00:39:49.000 Our team's going to lose it.

00:39:52.000 Caleb, thank you for calling in, my friend.

00:39:54.000 And thank you for bringing in a little bit of Charlie's spirit.

00:40:00.000 Charlie did not like the NBA, but he loved college basketball.

00:40:03.000 He liked the Bulls, 90s Bulls, and he liked college basketball, the bracket.

00:40:08.000 So I'm into it.

00:40:10.000 All right.

00:40:11.000 Next up, we have Anthony.

00:40:13.000 Anthony, what's going on?

00:40:15.000 What's up, guys?

00:40:16.000 Blake, I can kind of agree with you.

00:40:18.000 I don't watch basketball, but if I have to.

00:40:21.000 Nope, Danny, hold on.

00:40:23.000 I work in the industry.

00:40:24.000 Working it is more fun than watching it.

00:40:27.000 Oh, working?

00:40:29.000 That is absurd.

00:40:30.000 What does that mean?

00:40:31.000 Like, the players are interesting or like the shoot?

00:40:34.000 Well, I work on the communications and marketing side.

00:40:36.000 So you're always interacting with players, media, game notes.

00:40:40.000 I've worked a Sweet 16 in an Elite A regional back in 2010 when it was at Syracuse.

00:40:44.000 So I had Cornell, Kentucky, Washington, and West Virginia.

00:40:49.000 So working it as a person is a lot more fun than just sitting on your couch or out with friends watching it.

00:40:56.000 So you're more into it.

00:40:57.000 Like I have guys in mind right now are in different regionals working on staff.

00:41:03.000 So Anthony, I totally agree with this.

00:41:05.000 I went to my first NBA game like close to the court.

00:41:09.000 I went to a son's game.

00:41:11.000 Somebody invited me and it was really cool in person.

00:41:14.000 I hate watching basketball.

00:41:15.000 Oh, NBA.

00:41:16.000 I like watching March Madness.

00:41:18.000 I hate watching NBA at home.

00:41:21.000 It just like you don't have any sense of the size and athleticism of the players.

00:41:26.000 But up close, you do.

00:41:27.000 And it really is remarkable.

00:41:29.000 They are tremendous athletes.

00:41:31.000 Got to give them to give them their due.

00:41:34.000 What makes March Madness great is the upsets, though.

00:41:36.000 Like the NBA, there's no such thing really as an upset because they're all professionals, which again, why college football is better than the NFL, because in college football, you also have the upsets.

00:41:45.000 College sports are better than professionals.

00:41:47.000 My problem with basketball is just I don't think the design of the game is good.

00:41:50.000 Like the incentives to foul and distract at the end of a game.

00:41:55.000 So it slows down to a haul and they're just shooting all the free throws.

00:41:59.000 And I feel like there's not that much strategy.

00:42:03.000 Like they, it took them 40 years to figure out a three-point shot was worth more than a two-point shot.

00:42:09.000 So you should shoot a three-point shot.

00:42:11.000 And then once they did that, it just totally wrecked the strategy.

00:42:13.000 Guys are just chucking threes or they're doing layups.

00:42:16.000 Nobody's ever trying to set up an isolation mid-range jumper anymore.

00:42:20.000 I just, I think it's awful.

00:42:22.000 Stephon Curry did kind of ruin the sport.

00:42:25.000 Can you say his name again?

00:42:27.000 What do you call him?

00:42:28.000 What did I say it wrong?

00:42:29.000 Curry?

00:42:30.000 I thought you said that.

00:42:31.000 He's named Stefan Curry.

00:42:32.000 He did.

00:42:33.000 He did stay Stephon Curry.

00:42:34.000 It's Stephanie.

00:42:34.000 Oh, Stephan Curry?

00:42:36.000 Yeah.

00:42:37.000 There's not a lot of ball knowledge, Anthony, on this.

00:42:39.000 Call him Steph Curry.

00:42:40.000 Think down.

00:42:41.000 Even I know that.

00:42:42.000 Well, hold up.

00:42:43.000 Before I get to my question, Andrew, I can agree with you on one thing.

00:42:46.000 I used to work in the NBA for two years.

00:42:48.000 So I've seen the difference in pro and college.

00:42:51.000 And my picks to win it.

00:42:52.000 If I had a pick right now, I didn't do a bracket.

00:42:54.000 Arizona, Michigan, Duke, or Florida are my top four.

00:42:57.000 But I think Arizona is going to take it.

00:43:00.000 Yeah, anybody but Michigan.

00:43:01.000 I'm a hater of Michigan at all costs.

00:43:05.000 Yeah, we're aware.

00:43:06.000 Yeah.

00:43:07.000 Yeah.

00:43:08.000 Okay, Ohio State.

00:43:09.000 All right, Anthony, what's your other question?

00:43:12.000 And we can maybe go into the other side.

00:43:14.000 This is my real question.

00:43:16.000 How can you tell who's a good influencer on social media in politics?

00:43:21.000 Because there's a lot of them that just create podcasts, create short memes, animations, that kind of stuff, interviews where they just want clicks.

00:43:29.000 And we know with AI these days, you can create a lot of fake propaganda.

00:43:33.000 We see it all over.

00:43:35.000 So like outside of you guys, Brandon Tatum and others, like how can you figure out who is a good one to follow?

00:43:41.000 Because I think a lot of people don't, the average person doesn't know who to follow and they'll just follow everybody.

00:43:47.000 And some of the information is not true.

00:43:50.000 A lot of it's not true.

00:43:51.000 That is a complicated question.

00:43:52.000 I will answer it succinctly like this, but we can build this idea out.

00:43:56.000 One of the main things I look for, Anthony, is does that person have skin in the game?

00:44:01.000 Is there any cost for being wrong?

00:44:04.000 That could mean they get involved in local elections.

00:44:06.000 They're actually working the system to try and affect change from a grassroots level.

00:44:12.000 That's the one thing that kept Charlie grounded more than anything else is that he had touch points with the students.

00:44:18.000 He had touch points with the voters.

00:44:20.000 We have that turning point action.

00:44:22.000 Everything we do, we're trying to advance the football, another sports analogy, to make sure that the country's a better place, that we're leaving it a better place.

00:44:30.000 And I will tell you, that grounds you.

00:44:33.000 It focuses you like nothing else.

00:44:35.000 Blake, I know you have many, many thoughts when it comes to which influencers you should follow and trust and which you should not.

00:44:42.000 Yeah, I mean, so it's a, first of all, it's just a great question.

00:44:45.000 I think it's an important one, and a lot of people are becoming aware of it.

00:44:49.000 I think, as you said, an important thing is skin in the game.

00:44:52.000 Not just are they doing actual work out there, but sort of is there any accountability if they're wrong about things?

00:45:00.000 And more to the point, you should just, even if they don't, you should look for signs that like if they make predictions, do you have to look, sorry, I'm stumbling over my words.

00:45:10.000 You want to look for a long-term pattern here.

00:45:13.000 You should see, does this person offering like consistent takes on things?

00:45:17.000 That doesn't mean they have to be right all of the time, but are they clearly coming from some sort of ideological foundation?

00:45:23.000 Can you anticipate how this person will react to things in a way that isn't just chasing after clicks?

00:45:30.000 Another thing I think that's worth looking towards is if a person is often alluding to having secret knowledge or foreknowledge of things, does that actually pan out?

00:45:41.000 Because a very common way to sort of grift or attention bait is to suggest you have secret sources about stuff and then nothing ever comes of it.

00:45:50.000 Nothing ever emerges from this.

00:45:52.000 A lot of people like to say, oh, you know, I have a lot of, you know, I have secret info that something big is going to drop in next week.

00:45:59.000 And if it never happens, most people forget about it because the memory is like a goldfish.

00:46:03.000 But you should watch those things.

00:46:05.000 And if they are doing that consistently, one of the great things on X, you can actually make lists of different users and you can put someone on your list of this person actually BS's me a lot.

00:46:15.000 Or you could put someone else, this person actually has been reliable.

00:46:18.000 You can bookmark posts.

00:46:20.000 Using those tools is a good way to keep track of who's reliable, who's honest, and who's less reliable.

00:46:27.000 Another thing I like to look for is sort of emotional balance.

00:46:31.000 I find that people who are less reliable, they tend to get insanely worked up about things.

00:46:36.000 And it's always a new thing this week because emotional overload is very, it is clickbaity.

00:46:42.000 It's very satisfying to people.

00:46:44.000 People enjoy getting really worked up about things.

00:46:47.000 And if a user is deliberately feeding that, if they're encouraging you to get really, really angry all the time about every new thing, if they're encouraging really drastic action all of the time, I find that's a sign that they're often just chasing after the most clicks that they can get rather than trying to lead you in a good direction.

00:47:07.000 And I think Charlie was good about that.

00:47:08.000 Charlie could be very strong in his views, but he wasn't endlessly having meltdowns about things.

00:47:16.000 Well said.

00:47:18.000 Anthony, thank you for your question.

00:47:19.000 I think it was a really, really good one.

00:47:21.000 Unless, Danny, you want to add anything to it?

00:47:24.000 No, I just think staying consistent, if you continue to just keep going back and forth on different issues and keep contradicting yourself, then you can't really be trustworthy.

00:47:32.000 I appreciate it, guys.

00:47:34.000 And I'm going to send something to you guys so you can watch basketball a different way like I watch it.

00:47:39.000 All right.

00:47:40.000 I don't think I'm going to be sold.

00:47:42.000 I have become an enemy of the b-ball.

00:47:43.000 Blake, be open-minded.

00:47:45.000 I'm going to side with the Dodger fan.

00:47:48.000 I'm going to have to six or eight men show up at my house and beat me up now or something.

00:47:51.000 He's siding with the Dodger fan.

00:47:53.000 That's how you know I made a good point.

00:47:55.000 By the way, I think the Dodgers team could beat Venezuela nine out of ten times.

00:48:00.000 That's what I'm going to say.

00:48:01.000 All right.

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00:49:14.000 Michael, you're up next.

00:49:15.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:49:17.000 Thanks, Anthony.

00:49:18.000 Oh, Ian is.

00:49:18.000 Ian.

00:49:19.000 Sorry, Ian is.

00:49:21.000 We'll get to you in a second, Michael.

00:49:21.000 Sorry about that.

00:49:22.000 Ian.

00:49:23.000 Ah, you're trying to trick me here.

00:49:26.000 All right.

00:49:26.000 Hello, guys.

00:49:27.000 How you doing?

00:49:28.000 Good, good.

00:49:29.000 How you doing, Ian?

00:49:30.000 What's your question?

00:49:32.000 Yeah, it's been, this has been good.

00:49:33.000 I love hearing this.

00:49:34.000 Also, basketball, I mean, Michael Jordan's the go.

00:49:37.000 Charlie was spot on the nose with that.

00:49:39.000 But yeah, anyways, don't get me started on basketball.

00:49:42.000 I'll talk for hours on that.

00:49:43.000 But I really, I've been working on gratitude this year.

00:49:46.000 That's been a really big thing for me.

00:49:48.000 And I just wanted to know what are some things you guys are grateful for in your lives.

00:49:52.000 And also, secondly, what's something that Charlie taught you about gratitude?

00:49:55.000 Because I know he was big on that too.

00:49:58.000 Yeah.

00:49:58.000 I had a reminder of this last night, actually, Ian.

00:50:02.000 You know, without getting into the gory details, yesterday was an adventure personally for me for a very variety of reasons.

00:50:11.000 Blake knows a little bit about it.

00:50:12.000 Sorry to be vague.

00:50:14.000 But anyways, the point is, I was talking with my wife, and she looked at me and she just kind of like threw up her hands and she goes, Isn't it great that you and me are good and that our kids are healthy?

00:50:26.000 Like, isn't it good that doesn't matter like what's going on, what challenges that we have each other and that our relationship is strong?

00:50:34.000 And I just thought, you know what?

00:50:36.000 That's exactly right.

00:50:37.000 It doesn't matter all the noise.

00:50:39.000 It doesn't matter everything that's swirling, all the tension, all the conflict.

00:50:43.000 You know, I'm grateful for my wife and my family.

00:50:46.000 And I'm grateful that I have a Christian faith that has, you know, guarded my heart and has guarded my life and helped me make better decisions.

00:50:55.000 And, you know, it was interesting.

00:50:57.000 There's a pastor that I used to download his podcast all the time and listen to him.

00:51:03.000 And he would acknowledge the fact he's kind of a blunt guy.

00:51:08.000 And he said, you know, if I didn't have, if I wasn't saved by Jesus Christ, I'd be drunk, alone, divorced, and alone in some basement somewhere.

00:51:19.000 And, you know, it was kind of, it's a blunt way to put it, but I do think that there is an element of all of our lives that if we didn't, if we weren't grounded in something eternal and something true and something that is tried and tested over the years and the millennia, that we would find ourselves in a really, really terrible spot.

00:51:36.000 Sometimes you still find yourself in a really terrible spot, but I'm grateful for those lasting things and those good things.

00:51:42.000 And anyways, that's my answer.

00:51:44.000 Blake, what about you, Danny?

00:51:46.000 Charlie was very good about gratitude, even in even in defeat.

00:51:50.000 I remember he was going on about the importance of gratitude right after the 22 midterms, which were very rough.

00:51:54.000 And he did a great bit on Thanksgiving.

00:51:56.000 Like, we have the most gratitude right now because we recognize the stuff that is truly central to us, which is faith, which is family, which is the immediacy around us, everything God's given us.

00:52:07.000 I'm very grateful for those basic things.

00:52:10.000 I am personally very grateful.

00:52:11.000 I know there's a lot of doomerism about the U.S. I'm kind of grateful.

00:52:14.000 Like, I think about the very basic things that I can still, as much as people complain, I can count on like a functional country, the rule of law.

00:52:24.000 I can easily obtain food over time.

00:52:27.000 I try to always take myself back to those very root things.

00:52:31.000 Like, as much as we are worried about this country, we have a very nice one, and we see a lot of things breaking down all around the world.

00:52:37.000 And as much as we're annoyed by things that unfold around the world, for example, there's this war in the Middle East, and I don't think any of us like that it's happening.

00:52:47.000 We do live in a country that is basically at peace.

00:52:50.000 But I wanted to get more on that because I wanted to ask you, Danny, are you grateful?

00:52:54.000 Do you have gratitude for Ohio State football?

00:52:57.000 Well, first off, I'm grateful.

00:52:58.000 I call it the four F's: faith, family, freedom, and friends.

00:53:02.000 So I'm not football.

00:53:04.000 Football's not football.

00:53:05.000 It's kind of just something fun on the side.

00:53:07.000 It's not the main thing.

00:53:08.000 I'm grateful we beat Michigan this year.

00:53:10.000 I am not grateful that there was a disaster game in Miami that I attended and they lost pretty bad.

00:53:18.000 But you're feeling a little fair weather fan here to me.

00:53:21.000 They've won a title.

00:53:22.000 They've won, what, three titles in the last two years.

00:53:25.000 Well, see, we demand excellence, Blake.

00:53:27.000 So we're not satisfied with losing.

00:53:29.000 So it's a different type of breed.

00:53:30.000 I will say, I am grateful the Packers won a Super Bowl, and I'm like, I want them to win more, but I'm glad we got one, which Minnesota Vikings fans will never get to experience.

00:53:39.000 Sorry, guys, it's true.

00:53:41.000 But yes, now we can move on to the next question.

00:53:44.000 Can you hear me?

00:53:45.000 Yeah, Michael.

00:53:46.000 Michael, what's your question?

00:53:47.000 Hey, first off, I want to say thank you for helping to call attention to the issues we have in trucking.

00:53:54.000 I called in and talked to Charlie last time.

00:53:55.000 I called in and talked to Charlie.

00:53:57.000 He actually helped me over the break to discuss it.

00:54:00.000 And, you know, unfortunately, we've had some tragedies between here and there in trucking, but I'm thankful that we're getting stuff done.

00:54:09.000 My question is that with all of the talk about an immigration freeze, I was curious if there was any hope of keeping fiancé visas open.

00:54:20.000 And as I said in the question, you know, limited to one per one per citizen, a lifetime limit of one per citizen.

00:54:30.000 Jefferson.

00:54:30.000 Is this like a marriage visa?

00:54:32.000 Yes.

00:54:32.000 All right.

00:54:33.000 All right.

00:54:33.000 Lifetime limit of one per citizen sounds like a good idea.

00:54:36.000 It seems like very straightforward.

00:54:38.000 You should not, it would be a good check on fraud at a minimum.

00:54:42.000 Exactly.

00:54:42.000 That's what I'm thinking.

00:54:44.000 I've been talking to a from South America for a while, looking to bring her up here.

00:54:51.000 And that whole immigration freeze thing would be a little bit of a kink in the net.

00:54:54.000 Oh, well, yes.

00:54:56.000 So I don't know if there's a discussion of a freeze on all spousal visas.

00:55:01.000 I imagine even if we were to do a well, I go back and forth on this because obviously we've talked about a moratorium.

00:55:07.000 It would feel extreme to say, oh, you can't bring your spouse in from abroad.

00:55:11.000 I also have to, we also have to be very aware.

00:55:13.000 If we were to crack down in all other forms, it would encourage a big increase in, let's be frank, fraudulent marriage visas because people will find any means they can to get into the U.S. If you want an example, Ilhan Omar.

00:55:25.000 Yeah, I mean, if you want an example, we also have a visa for victims of crimes who can stay in the U.S. so they can testify in a case or whatever.

00:55:33.000 And just the other day, we had yet another indictment.

00:55:36.000 We've had many of these where they've caught rings of people faking crimes against their friends so that those friends can then get that visa and stay in the U.S.

00:55:45.000 I think your idea of a one-person limit is or a one-lifetime limit is a good idea.

00:55:53.000 Another one might be you maybe have to add some like threshold expense to it, which I know is a pain, but it would encourage you to be very serious about those things.

00:56:03.000 There's ways we can go about it, but the truth is $15,000 expense.

00:56:06.000 Oh, is there?

00:56:07.000 All right.

00:56:08.000 Yeah, it's a $10,000 to $15,000 expense once.

00:56:10.000 And that doesn't include travel or anything else because I've already game planned all this stuff out.

00:56:14.000 And I'm looking at about a $10,000 to $15,000 expense just to get her up here, which I'm fine with paying.

00:56:20.000 My goal in life has always been to get married and have kids.

00:56:22.000 And my generation has been absolutely horrible at that.

00:56:25.000 So come peck or high water.

00:56:27.000 I'm pushing.

00:56:29.000 Me and her are focused on getting this done.

00:56:32.000 It's just that, you know, the same as illegal deport all means all.

00:56:37.000 You know, when someone says we want to halt all immigration, okay, all means all. 1.00

00:56:42.000 There is a hard stop and no one passes go.

00:56:44.000 And I would like to, I would like to, you know, I'll teach her the citizenship test myself, but it's not that hard.

00:56:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:56:50.000 It's just not.

00:56:51.000 I will teach her that stuff.

00:56:53.000 I'm active in my community.

00:56:54.000 I will take her through that stuff.

00:56:56.000 I just need to be able to get her up here.

00:56:58.000 All right.

00:56:58.000 Well, what country is she coming from?

00:57:01.000 Venezuela.

00:57:01.000 She's more based than I am, though.

00:57:04.000 Yeah, there's a lot of really patriotic Venezuelans, actually.

00:57:08.000 And by the way, we've endorsed on this show a net zero moratorium, which would essentially mean there will be some spots.

00:57:18.000 And maybe we need to prioritize some of these marriage visas if they can be properly vetted for patriots like yourself.

00:57:24.000 I'm open to that.

00:57:25.000 But a net zero would essentially be about 200, 250,000 people would still be admitted because that's how many people are leaving the country every year.

00:57:34.000 So as soon as the spot opens up, it opens up, right?

00:57:37.000 To Blake's point, though, the second that you start making exceptions or carve-outs, people will exploit them.

00:57:44.000 And so you've got to, the starting point needs to be very firm, very rigid, and very exacting.

00:57:50.000 And the point is, is because we've just been so taken advantage of. 0.97

00:57:55.000 We are the suckers. 0.95

00:57:56.000 We are the marks for the entire world that wants to flood in here. 0.94

00:57:59.000 And, you know, it's basically arbitrage.

00:58:02.000 Yeah.

00:58:02.000 Trust me, I know.

00:58:03.000 That's why it says one per native born citizen, lifetime limit of one per native born citizen.

00:58:08.000 Not you came in here and you became a citizen.

00:58:10.000 You had to be born here.

00:58:11.000 Natural born citizen.

00:58:13.000 I think that's a good, that might be a good start, but it's a complicated topic.

00:58:18.000 And I think to kind of put a bow on it, a big thing to remember here is there's so many ways our system is just constantly exploited because we don't take the idea of having a good immigration policy seriously.

00:58:30.000 And if we really did that, if we were serious about any immigrant who comes to the U.S. should be improving the country, we should not be allowing criminals.

00:58:37.000 We should not be allowing dependents.

00:58:39.000 We should not be allowing problems to come into America.

00:58:43.000 We can instantly make a vastly smarter system.

00:58:47.000 And we mostly refuse to do it.

00:58:49.000 And I think marriage visas for clear cases where it makes sense to allow it is one of the less damaging things that we can have compared to the just endless importation of foreign farm workers, tech workers, and so on. 0.97

00:59:05.000 One person, you're not bringing your family up here.

00:59:07.000 You can go down there and visit.

00:59:09.000 I think that's very reasonable.

00:59:10.000 And endless family reunification has been a disaster for America, very bluntly.

00:59:15.000 But thank you for your question.

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01:00:21.000 Elizabeth, unmute yourself. 1.00

01:00:23.000 What's your question?

01:00:24.000 Hi.

01:00:24.000 Yes.

01:00:25.000 So mine's also about immigration as well.

01:00:29.000 I don't know if you were aware that Ali Largiani, who was a senior Iranian official in the Supreme Leaders National Guard, he was basically the guy who got the 40,000 protesters killed.

01:00:44.000 He's like a truly evil person and he was recently wiped out by Israel. 1.00

01:00:48.000 His daughter is a professor, well, was a professor at Emory University and had gotten her green card in 2021. 0.80

01:00:55.000 I don't know if you guys, not 2010, I think it was 2020.

01:00:59.000 No, yeah, 2021 under Biden.

01:01:02.000 And there was an article in the post about all of these Iranian leaders and their kids getting visas and green cards educated here.

01:01:09.000 There was that terrorist in Michigan who was here legally, whose brother was a leader in Hezbollah.

01:01:17.000 There was a terrorist attack over in Austin, Texas.

01:01:21.000 And it's just astounding that these people aren't getting vetted.

01:01:24.000 We have people filing for asylum claims.

01:01:28.000 And it's like four years later, they say, no, you're declined asylum.

01:01:31.000 They get to appeal.

01:01:32.000 They get to stay here.

01:01:33.000 It's 20 years later before you can legally get them out.

01:01:36.000 And everyone's yelling at you, oh, they've been here for 20 years.

01:01:39.000 How can you make them leave now?

01:01:41.000 Meanwhile, they don't even speak the language still.

01:01:44.000 Like, is there any possibility of one, vetting these people better?

01:01:48.000 And then, two, if you are claiming asylum, that you have 14 days for your trial.

01:01:55.000 And then there's a process where they can just sort of basically vet you out one way or the other.

01:01:59.000 And if you don't qualify, they have to leave the country within another two weeks.

01:02:04.000 And that's it.

01:02:05.000 And if they want to appeal it, they can appeal it, but not on American soil.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just the whole story with this like man's daughter.

01:02:12.000 Yeah, you're correct.

01:02:13.000 She was, she had a faculty position at Emory.

01:02:16.000 And I don't know exactly how that came to pass, but this is a guy who's senior in a regime that is an enemy of the United States.

01:02:23.000 And it seems like something broke if she's able to just very easily come here, unless we have hard proof that she's like basically a huge opponent of everything, you know, of the regime.

01:02:35.000 Like if she was an action, if she had skin in the game as someone who'd like fought against the regime.

01:02:38.000 She's flying back over there.

01:02:40.000 Yeah, but I don't, yeah, it seems like she's flying back over there.

01:02:42.000 And frankly, just looking at her faculty portrait, I don't think that she's an enemy of the regime.

01:02:47.000 It just, it gets back to what we said with the last segment.

01:02:49.000 We have such an unserious immigration policy.

01:02:52.000 We just casually bring in people who are hostile to America, who are scamming America, who are plundering America.

01:02:59.000 And as soon as we make it a priority to not let that happen, there's so many benefits we can build up for the United States.

01:03:07.000 By the way, the White House announced a review of all immigration benefits granted to Iranians, which has been labeled a country of concern.

01:03:15.000 So there has been movement.

01:03:17.000 Yeah.

01:03:18.000 Has been movement on that.

01:03:19.000 We'll see what happens there.

01:03:20.000 Blake, you got an interesting email question.

01:03:22.000 I think it deserves answering.

01:03:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:03:24.000 We got one from Kelsey, and she asked a few weeks ago, Mikey posted some great pictures and videos of Charlie.

01:03:29.000 And in one video, Charlie was eating in and out, which made me wonder what was his go-to order at In-N-Out.

01:03:38.000 Thank you, Kelsey.

01:03:38.000 That's a fun one.

01:03:39.000 And we actually had to do some research because the truth is, Charlie didn't eat In-N-Out a lot.

01:03:43.000 He loved In-N-Out the company.

01:03:45.000 He loved their Christian Foundation.

01:03:47.000 I think he even interviewed the founder at one point.

01:03:49.000 Lindsay.

01:03:52.000 So he really loved it.

01:03:53.000 That was kind of our go-to.

01:03:54.000 If we were ordering food for the office, it would be In-N-Out.

01:03:58.000 But obviously, I'm not a big fast food guy.

01:03:59.000 So we asked, and Erica tells us his default order was a protein-style double-double.

01:04:05.000 So I think that's two patties, two pieces of cheese, the two by two.

01:04:09.000 And that didn't surprise me because Charlie only ate about four foods and bread wasn't one of them.

01:04:13.000 So you never really see him eating a burger patty.

01:04:16.000 And cheese, I think cheese would be a luxury.

01:04:19.000 You very rarely saw him eating cheese.

01:04:21.000 The go-to was beef, chicken, avocado, olive oil, and sort of green vegetables.

01:04:27.000 We'd say like lettuce or cabbage.

01:04:29.000 Any green vegetable he could kind of do.

01:04:31.000 And those are basically the only things he ate.

01:04:33.000 And so that cheese on the In-N-Out burger, that was a very special luxury for him.

01:04:38.000 Okay, Mick, you're up next.

01:04:40.000 Oh, Mick also wanted us to read it.

01:04:42.000 Yes.

01:04:42.000 So Andrews.

01:04:43.000 My guy's not feeling great.

01:04:45.000 Please read for me.

01:04:46.000 There was a clip played during one of the breaks where Charlie was talking with a gentleman from Oregon, where I'm from, who wasn't sure if he should get involved in his local election.

01:04:55.000 I myself am looking to move to South Carolina.

01:04:57.000 What did Charlie, and what do you guys think about conservatives moving from blue states to deep red states?

01:05:04.000 I think he was basically pro.

01:05:07.000 He, you know, oftentimes he would tell Californians, like, your vote will go further in Arizona if you want to move here.

01:05:13.000 But he was also pro Usang.

01:05:15.000 You know, if you made the decision to stay and fight in Oregon or California, he was pro that.

01:05:21.000 And he said, you know, but fight to win.

01:05:22.000 And you don't fight because you know you're going to win.

01:05:25.000 You fight because it's the right thing to do.

01:05:27.000 So wherever you are at, you need to find wins and ways to get involved that will move the needle.

01:05:31.000 That's the main point.

01:05:33.000 But if you're going to move and your vote's now going to count for more, by all means, don't vote for Lindsey Graham.

01:05:39.000 That's all I can tell you.

01:05:40.000 Yeah.

01:05:41.000 South Carolina.

01:05:41.000 I mean, I'd add Charlie, for example, at the memorial, Stacey spoke.

01:05:46.000 She was a member of our team who was in California, and Charlie was always pushing her to move to Arizona.

01:05:52.000 And thankfully, she finally did.

01:05:55.000 Of course, Andrew, you've also come out to Arizona.

01:05:59.000 I think in general, another reason, besides just political calculations, Charlie would want people to move to red states because you can live a better life in a red state.

01:06:07.000 It's more affordable.

01:06:08.000 You're more likely to be able to have a home space.

01:06:11.000 You're less likely to be taxed to death.

01:06:13.000 You're more likely to be able to practice your faith as you wish, to go to the school where your children can learn the way you want. 0.55

01:06:19.000 You don't have to worry that insane people might abduct your children for the transgender cult. 1.00

01:06:24.000 There's a million reasons to live in a red state that are not just who I'm going to vote for, who I can help elect.

01:06:31.000 But that does matter as well.

01:06:33.000 The movement of people to red states has been hugely helpful for us.

01:06:37.000 We're better able to win elections because red states are growing, blue states are shrinking, and as long as we keep our states on side, that's going to produce a lot of benefits for us.

01:06:47.000 Big if in places like North Carolina and Georgia.

01:06:49.000 Those are the two I'm most worried about.

01:06:51.000 Yeah, I mean, they love to bluify our red states.

01:06:55.000 It's a huge hazard.

01:06:56.000 But our states are well run.

01:06:58.000 They are better, and that's something we can brag about.

01:07:00.000 The vindication of red state government has been a big story of the past decade.

01:07:05.000 It really has, actually.

01:07:06.000 I'm glad you said that because it kind of flows into our next question.

01:07:10.000 Mark, unmute yourself.

01:07:13.000 Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

01:07:15.000 Okay.

01:07:16.000 Thanks for taking my call, guys.

01:07:18.000 Absolutely.

01:07:19.000 One of the main reasons.

01:07:20.000 Yeah, one of the main reasons why I started listening to Charlie Kirk, and I loved this about Charlie, was his obsession with winning elections.

01:07:30.000 One of the main reasons why I donate to you guys is because turning point action.

01:07:36.000 And I don't want to say I'm a what do you guys call them the black pillars of the doomers, right?

01:07:42.000 I don't know what you guys call it, but basically, I'm extremely worried about the midterms.

01:07:47.000 But what I would like to see is, and I'm going to use, I think, Blake's term because he's a Catholic guy, the conservative conclave.

01:07:56.000 I'm going to call it the, I'm kind of calling it the conservative conclave, where we focus energy comparing policy from Dems to Republicans.

01:08:08.000 There's a book called Questioning to the Close.

01:08:11.000 If you look at the response from Amiga Spamberger after the State of the Union, she just kept asking three questions: what has Trump done?

01:08:22.000 Blah, blah, blah.

01:08:23.000 What has Trump done?

01:08:23.000 Well, she didn't.

01:08:24.000 I mean, basically, she was lying, but the concept is the same.

01:08:28.000 We need the independent voters.

01:08:30.000 And what I don't see hardly anywhere in conservative media is what is there, there's no comparison between policy.

01:08:40.000 Like the Republican policy is superior to the Democrats have.

01:08:47.000 This is interesting.

01:08:48.000 It ties into two of the other questions.

01:08:50.000 Who are the podcasters you can trust?

01:08:52.000 Yeah.

01:08:52.000 You trust the ones that have skin in the game and that are actually working elections and trying to get the right people elected.

01:08:57.000 It got me thinking about this because a reason they wouldn't be comparing Republican policies to Democrat ones is if they're just promoting conflict within the movement.

01:09:05.000 And that's something we should have said about who you can trust.

01:09:08.000 Look at who you're picking fights with.

01:09:10.000 You want, I love the, I love to talk about the words that are on a Claymore mine for military lingo: front towards enemy.

01:09:16.000 They should be facing the enemy, which is the left.

01:09:19.000 And if instead they're facing your own guys and finding reasons to stoke conflict with other Republicans without really good reason, like, okay, we attack Lindsey Graham for reasons that we hope we're very clear on.

01:09:31.000 But if they're constantly finding new Republicans to beef with, that's not a good thing.

01:09:35.000 And so you're very right.

01:09:37.000 We need our communicators talking about elections and talking about what Democrat rule means.

01:09:41.000 And what Democrat rule means is training in your kids, crime, filth, disorder in the streets, higher taxes, like unlivability.

01:09:50.000 It's California spending $40 billion on a train that will never carry anyone anywhere.

01:09:56.000 I agree 100%.

01:09:57.000 And this is why I was so adamant about getting through, right?

01:10:00.000 It's like I get so angry when this infighting is not helping anybody.

01:10:08.000 But this is kind of why I'm calling it the conservative conclave, because it's like we're grabbing people from this space and saying, look, guys, if we lose the midterm in the Senate and the House, Trump is done.

01:10:22.000 If we lose the House, he's not out of office.

01:10:25.000 But if he loses both, he's done.

01:10:27.000 And so, and if we lose both, yes.

01:10:31.000 And if he loses the House, Senate, and we lose in 28, if JD doesn't win, they're coming after you guys.

01:10:36.000 I mean, I hate to say it, right?

01:10:38.000 Because I mean, this is, I mean, this is what I loved about Charlie.

01:10:43.000 He was so fearless.

01:10:45.000 And the thing that I love, he went, he did his own RNC convention right next to the RNC convention.

01:10:51.000 I was like stoked when he did that.

01:10:54.000 And this is why when I see conservative talks, I get angry.

01:10:59.000 So I'm just asking you, do you think that's the first time?

01:11:01.000 We got to wrap the show.

01:11:03.000 We got to wrap the show.

01:11:04.000 I hate to cut you off, but you're absolutely right.

01:11:07.000 The Claymore mind is a great analogy, Blake.

01:11:10.000 I think that was a great way to end it.

01:11:15.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 20, 2026

Remembering Two Heroes, New York Times Anti-News, and AMA 258

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