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00:01:09.000All right, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:17.000And then I received news that is devastating for all late millennials like myself.
00:01:23.000We'll get to it later, I'm sure, but the Chuck Norris news.
00:01:26.000That is the first internet meme I remember getting reported on in a newspaper, which is this paper thing that had stories in it that used to exist.
00:02:14.000Yeah, so The Octagon, 1980, Eye for an Eye, 1981, Silent Rage, 1982, Lone Wolf, Wolf McQuaid, 1983, Missing in Action, 1 through 3, and that was from 85 to 88.
00:03:31.000He was a patriot, and I think I remember it actually catching a lot of people off guard because this was the Bush era, which was a peak of everyone in Hollywood, every celebrity being left-wing.
00:03:44.000And this is when all the jokes are going on the internet.
00:03:46.000If you're under 20, you may not know these things.
00:03:48.000There was this whole trend of making, you know, viral Chuck Norris jokes.
00:03:52.000When Chuck Norris does a push-up, he's not pushing himself up.
00:04:19.000It's the primaries for the presidency.
00:04:21.000And Mike Huckabee is running for president, making a long shot bid, and he's campaigning in Iowa.
00:04:29.000And it turns out that Chuck Norris is a Mike Huckabee supporter, and they cut one of the more memorable ads I think we will ever see in the history of American politics.
00:05:56.000It was sort of a hostile takeover of the conservative movement.
00:05:59.000And he said, if reluctant Republicans and other freedom-loving citizens don't rally now behind GOP nominee Donald Trump, we could elect Hillary Clinton by default or by those who merely stay home on election day.
00:06:13.000And he said he'd only met Trump once, 42 years prior during his retirement event at the World Martial Arts Champion.
00:06:20.000That was it, quote, I haven't seen or spoken to him since.
00:07:25.000Jeff Webb is kind of the personification of the American dreams.
00:07:29.000I'm joined now by Jeff Webb, who is the founder and creator of Varsity Spirit.
00:07:34.000Providing a platform and a showcase for outstanding young people to really present as they can do.
00:07:44.000He created a whole brand where none existed around high school cheer, created competitions, didn't do it to get rich.
00:07:53.000He just wanted to give young people an opportunity where they could have community, where they could share values, where they could compete.
00:08:01.000And he's truly an all-American story of success.
00:08:05.000What drives us is doing something great and building a great organization and really making a contribution to young people in this country.
00:08:14.000Young people today are not lazy, as some people like to say.
00:08:23.000They just, they just, they need some help in finding their way and they need some help with our institutions and making them more available to everybody.
00:08:32.000Yeah, that was a real big loss for the Turning Point family.
00:08:40.000As a matter of fact, the first event I ever went to with Turning Point and Charlie, Jeff was there.
00:08:46.000So Jeff predates my time with Charlie and Turning Point.
00:08:49.000And it's just a genuinely good-hearted, kind man, generous man.
00:08:56.000And again, passed away too soon at 76, a sporting accident.
00:09:00.000And it's a reminder that we never know when your time is going to come and to live each day to the fullest and be grateful for the time that we have with the people that we love.
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00:10:57.000So the one I want to hit, there's endless reasons to fixate on the press, but this is the one that got my attention because it was going around today.
00:11:05.000It's actually from a couple days ago, but it's getting attention today.
00:11:13.000Something terrifying is happening online.
00:11:16.000And when I first saw the headline, I thought, oh, well, this is great.
00:11:19.000Maybe the New York Times, because the New York Times will sometimes come in very belatedly and they will admit a trend that is going on and like give for the left to notice things.
00:11:29.000And we've noticed a certain trend among shooters, which is we have transgender shooters right now that are radicalized on Discord, on Tumblr, on Reddit, on these various spaces.
00:11:46.000But the New York Times summarizes it this way.
00:11:49.000I'm going to read a pretty extended excerpt from this.
00:11:52.000We are witnessing the emergence of a new paradigm.
00:11:55.000A mass shooter, no less despairing about life's hardships, but younger, highly connected to online social networks, and seemingly convinced that in acting violently, he or she is carrying out the only meaningful act possible in a world devoid of meaning.
00:12:13.000Last month in Tumblr Ridge, British Columbia, an 18-year-old killed her.
00:12:19.000mother and half-brother at home, then opened fire at a secondary school.
00:12:23.000She attended, killing five students and an educator.
00:12:27.000In the aftermath of the shooting, amid expected evidence of the shooter's despair, there emerged an alarming trail of online activity.
00:12:33.000On Roblox, the shooter had created a game simulating a mass shooting.
00:12:37.000Her TikTok account reportedly featured reposted videos of a mass shooter.
00:12:42.000She belonged to a gore forum where users can post uncensored videos of violence and so on and so on.
00:12:50.000Never mentioned anywhere in this article is the syllable trans.
00:12:57.000Never mentions that this woman who did this shooting was actually a biological male who had become convinced that she was a woman and then also became convinced that she had to do a mass shooting.
00:13:08.000Later in the article, there was, they mention in the Annunciation Catholic School, last August, a 23-year-old fired through the windows of Annunciation Catholic School in Minneapolis.
00:13:21.000She killed two children and wounded more than 20 others.
00:13:24.000The inscriptions on her weapons told the story of the online community of which she had been a part.
00:13:31.000And then they mention quoting the Columbine shooters and so on.
00:13:34.000Again, never mentions this is a transgender shooter.
00:13:39.000So, Andrew, this is just, it's such a perfect example of this pattern that exists in the modern press and call it, you might call it boring news, anti-news.
00:13:54.000And yet, unless you're like us where you know the background of this, you're basically being actively misled because they are not telling you something the authors of this story 100% knew and they are taking efforts to avoid sharing it with you.
00:14:08.000It's like when you read a New York Times article that'll talk about a major crime that's committed and they have to wait until 18 paragraphs in before you tell them they mention their name or they might mention that they're a migrant, they're not from the United States.
00:14:26.000It kind of reminds me of our conversation with Lydia Moynihan from the New York Post yesterday because she has to face these people on CNN every day where she described some of the reporting that you had to do in the mainstream press to ultimately tell the truth.
00:14:42.000You had to eventually acknowledge the truth.
00:14:45.000And all these journalists were loath to do it.
00:14:47.000Nobody wanted that assignment because they would essentially not be allowed back into polite society and the cocktail parties in the Acela corridor.
00:14:57.000So this is one thing to understand about the mainstream news media is it's like a giant mean girls club at a high school.
00:15:05.000So these people refuse to acknowledge a basic fundamental biological truth that these are not women that are shooting up these schools or houses or whatever.
00:15:16.000These are violent men that have been deluded by a brain rot to think that they are women and by lots and lots of medications that are being pumped into their body, twisting their brain, twisting their mind, and they won't admit a basic fundamental truth that could actually get to the bottom of it and maybe make it stop.
00:15:34.000So if your goal in reporting is to expose truth and to affect the world and make it a better place, you're abandoning your central reason for being simply because you want to keep getting invited to other cocktail parties or get that next job.
00:15:48.000It's actually pretty disgraceful the amount of lying that goes on and the propaganda, the agit prop here.
00:15:55.000And at some level, you just have to say, are you doing this intentionally to upset us?
00:16:00.000Because you know the underlying truth of this story and refuse to report it.
00:16:06.000It's a bastardization of the calling, which is a high calling to report truth.
00:16:12.000And most of these people have no concept of what that truth is.
00:16:22.000It's a core element of the press, especially if you're the New York Times, because a lot of news outlets, they're just scrambling to get whatever clicks they can.
00:16:31.000The New York Times actually has the institutional power and it is well aware of it to shape what it is okay to believe, what it's now acceptable to talk about, what it's unacceptable to talk about.
00:16:45.000And Charlie himself, he liked to point out that this is like the big sacred cow is this like transgender cult that is devouring the nation's children.
00:16:56.000And even when they're willing to come out and say so and say that there's this new dark shooting online, they can't mention the giant elephant in the room.
00:17:05.000In fact, let's play that very quick before the break.
00:17:49.000I'm tempted to ask you about your bracket because you are a big sports guy, but we already know it's disaster because everything's terrible on the bracketology this year.
00:18:16.000Or, you know, sometimes we used to call it Christendom before we gave it that term.
00:18:20.000And so I think that there is a unique spiritual war happening right now for the direction of this country.
00:18:27.000And I think that's the backdrop of everything.
00:18:29.000And then I think we're coming out of really maybe since you have that period during the 60s, Gulf of Tonkin, JFK, MLK assassinations, RFK assassinations.
00:19:10.000And then on top of that, we have this last generation of the church just kind of took the generation off.
00:19:17.000Kind of from the original religious right in Francis Schaefer.
00:19:21.000We decided to sell Hawaiian shirts with Rick Warren and books with Joe Losteen and plant churches in cities like New York, like Tim Keller, and have like no cultural influence at all, okay?
00:19:33.000In the most important city in America, and now it's an Islamist refuge, right?
00:19:37.000So, and then the schools decided we can't critically think anymore because then the kids may outthink us and the very dogmas we're trying to impress upon them.
00:19:45.000So, when you stir all of that into a witch's brew and into a cauldron, guys, and you pour it out, I think you have the current ecosystem that we're all operating in.
00:19:54.000And then, on top of that, we had who many of us thought was going to be our generational leader here assassinated.
00:20:00.000And so, when you throw that, so now the fulcrum of this, the plum, the plumb line, you know, that I've talked about that, I think, every time I've been on here with you guys since Charlie's murder, that meme of Charlie is the giant Hoover-like dam holding back right-wing retardation.
00:20:15.000And then, so we can learn to unite and win.
00:20:17.000And so, when you throw all that in here, I think that's where you have this witch's brew that explains a lot of the various trend lines and headlines that we're seeing right now.
00:20:29.000I mean, I don't want to muscle in on your guys' Protestant territory here, but Catholics have long had a different approach, obviously.
00:20:39.000I mean, obviously, we want to affect the culture, but there's much more, of course, unity of organization.
00:20:44.000But I guess what I have definitely appreciated in this cultural moment is like we've had that, we've had that discussion, especially on the Thursday show.
00:20:54.000Like, is America culturally a Protestant country, or should it be?
00:21:03.000One thing I've become very alert to is the way that Catholics in America are very different from Catholics abroad.
00:21:12.000Like, we'll have our sort of special Latin parishes and all of the Latin-only ones, like where you definitely get groups that still want to affect the culture by breaking away from it a little more and being more assertive.
00:21:59.000I did Ross Dalthit's podcast, a New York Times columnist.
00:22:02.000He wrote a book called Bad Religion, and he talked about the vibrancy of the American church throughout the years has been the fact that there is this sort of competition for Pew seats, right?
00:22:15.000So when one denomination sort of falls off and loses their way, then another one will tend to fill the gap.
00:22:22.000And that has been basically marked by Reform theology.
00:22:28.000Different denominations and church movements would come up and fill that void.
00:22:33.000And so, yeah, America does retain its Protestant sort of ethos, its character.
00:22:40.000And I think that we have remained as vibrant as we have while the rest of the Western world has sort of fallen off because we have a competition for eyeballs.
00:22:48.000I hate to put it that bluntly, but that's essentially what it is.
00:22:52.000And I think, you know, you think of the book of Revelation when you talk about the God will snuff out the lampstands and, you know, ones that are preaching the truth and lifting up the name of Jesus will take its place.
00:23:06.000I sort of am still holding on to the fact that there are revival type energies that we are seeing.
00:23:13.000And you've seen some of this in your neck of the woods as well, Steve.
00:23:17.000You know, you've seen, we did the pick up the mic tour that's come near near your home.
00:23:22.000And we've done where we've got these make heaven crowded tour stops that are going all across the country.
00:23:29.000And I mean, at some level, I hate to devolve the conversation to such a place, but we are at a point where we either get revival or I'm afraid of what the future will hold.
00:23:39.000I think we are firmly ensconced in revival or bus territory.
00:23:43.000Now, the form of it, you know, we have a tendency, you know, there's a difference, I always say, between tradition and nostalgia.
00:23:49.000Tradition is where you look back on how, you know, truth, what's good, true, and beautiful has worked itself out throughout human history.
00:23:58.000What the Creator has revealed are those things.
00:24:02.000And those things give you confidence that if applied in a contemporary way for the time in which you live, they're timeless and can work again.
00:24:16.000So it's got to look exactly the same way that it looked before.
00:24:19.000Otherwise, it's very foreign to us and this can't be how things work.
00:24:23.000And so, you know, when I say without another great awakening, long term we're doomed, it doesn't mean that it has to be the exact same playbook as the great awakenings of the 18th century.
00:24:34.000But without that sort of systemic revival, I don't disagree.
00:24:41.000We have, and now a lot of our own people, I was with Lucas Miles, my good friend from TPUSA Faith yesterday at Alan Jackson's church in Nashville and spoke to a group of pastors there.
00:24:54.000And what I said to them, the number one thing we need you guys to do right now, frankly, is to teach our people how to think.
00:25:00.000That even before now we get to what I want to do, which is worldview formation and belief installation.
00:25:09.000And we're kind of in this era right now where I've been so betrayed by official sources that even when the guys I voted for now control the official sources, I still think they're betraying me.
00:26:29.000You know, at some point, I remember I'm reminded of a moment after Student Action Summit last year where Charlie took a bunch of incoming because at Student Action Summit, we basically were as loud as anybody in the country about the Epstein files.
00:26:44.000It was basically what the whole event became about.
00:26:47.000And then on Monday, Charlie told me, he's like, you know, I think they got the memo.
00:26:53.000And he said on the show, we're going to trust our friends in the government, meaning people that we helped get in place and we're going to give them some bandwidth to go.
00:27:05.000And what he was saying is like, at some point, we have to empower the people that we helped elect, that we helped put into positions of power to get this done and get it done the right way.
00:27:15.000We could argue until we're blue in the face whether that happened or not.
00:27:18.000But at some point, there has to be a middle ground where people use common sense.
00:27:23.000And I don't know that we're at a point where anybody's ready to do that yet.
00:27:27.000And I love what you're saying, Steve, is that we need to teach a whole generation to think again, to use their common sense.
00:27:33.000I want to get into two things here in this segment.
00:27:36.000I want you to distill that idea more, why it's so important in this sifting moment that we find ourselves in.
00:27:43.000And then I want to lay out the stakes because there's a chilling new article out of New Republic, which is a far-left rag.
00:27:51.000But they lay out the stakes here pretty clearly.
00:27:54.000They say there will be no post-presidential peace for Donald Trump.
00:27:58.000They even compare his sins and scandals and crimes with the shocking likeness. of the charges laid out in the Declaration of Independence against the last American king.
00:28:10.000So the stakes could not be higher right now.
00:29:19.000Because there's some real Matthew 2024 stuff going on right now, which is, man, if those days were not shortened, even the elect would be deceived.
00:29:25.000I mean, the amount of AI and everything else that's going on right now, the amount of false headlines that's going on that it's exposed right now, we've never been more bombarded with information in human history and more of it wrong than we are right now.
00:30:59.000All right, so that we don't fear that we are falling so far behind here to the organized, to the organized evil we're up against that we can't possibly catch up.
00:31:07.000Well, Steve, what I kind of find myself thinking in terms of the great sifting, it's, as you say, we have the sifting in terms of what, you know, are people able to maintain their, call it maybe mental composure, mental discipline to not fall for fake things on one end or complete propaganda on the other end.
00:31:25.000But I also think of the sifting like in society itself, that everything is so disordering and disorienting to people.
00:31:32.000A lot of people are kind of crashing out of society.
00:31:35.000That's the, you know, the aimless lost youth.
00:31:37.000They're not able to get careers off the ground.
00:32:04.000And the little communities, which in many cases will be Christian communities, will be churches.
00:32:09.000They're going to have immense outsize importance, immense outsize power in the future, just because they will be the ones who held together while everything else was flying apart.
00:32:20.000I think that's an absolute answer to that.
00:32:22.000I think that's a brilliant observation and forecast, Blake.
00:33:08.000And so now he has found a work environment that he can be productive and rewarded for being productive and doesn't shame him for his belief system.
00:33:16.000And then he's going to places where he has peer groups that share his belief system.
00:33:20.000And that sense of community, that sense of attachment, I mean, I can just see his entire outlook on things has dramatically improved just in the last couple of months because of everything that you just said.
00:33:31.000And I think it is imperative for us as older men now.
00:34:01.000And all of us have some kinds of those success stories unless we truly are born into a handful of elite families.
00:34:07.000And so I think for the younger men to see us finish well, to finish the race, not train in our wives for the 39-year-old or 42-year-old assistant, all right?
00:34:16.000Not do something stupid or reckless with their inheritance.
00:34:18.000And in fact, maybe give it to them early when they're young and married and they're struggling, when they really need it then, not when they're 40, 45 and I'm dead.
00:34:25.000And by then they're probably are hopefully established.
00:34:28.000These are things that as the older generation, we need to be looking for what are opportunities now to backfill retcon, the American dream, so that when we then say to the younger generation, hey, you know, sack up, get tougher, stick in there, we give them evidence of how you can still be successful if you do that.
00:34:48.000I couldn't agree more because everything that you both just described is going to be countered with countless online communities that will lead to brain rot, lead young people astray.
00:41:31.000Got to give them to give them their due.
00:41:34.000What makes March Madness great is the upsets, though.
00:41:36.000Like the NBA, there's no such thing really as an upset because they're all professionals, which again, why college football is better than the NFL, because in college football, you also have the upsets.
00:41:45.000College sports are better than professionals.
00:41:47.000My problem with basketball is just I don't think the design of the game is good.
00:41:50.000Like the incentives to foul and distract at the end of a game.
00:41:55.000So it slows down to a haul and they're just shooting all the free throws.
00:41:59.000And I feel like there's not that much strategy.
00:42:03.000Like they, it took them 40 years to figure out a three-point shot was worth more than a two-point shot.
00:42:09.000So you should shoot a three-point shot.
00:42:11.000And then once they did that, it just totally wrecked the strategy.
00:42:13.000Guys are just chucking threes or they're doing layups.
00:42:16.000Nobody's ever trying to set up an isolation mid-range jumper anymore.
00:43:16.000How can you tell who's a good influencer on social media in politics?
00:43:21.000Because there's a lot of them that just create podcasts, create short memes, animations, that kind of stuff, interviews where they just want clicks.
00:43:29.000And we know with AI these days, you can create a lot of fake propaganda.
00:44:22.000Everything we do, we're trying to advance the football, another sports analogy, to make sure that the country's a better place, that we're leaving it a better place.
00:44:30.000And I will tell you, that grounds you.
00:44:35.000Blake, I know you have many, many thoughts when it comes to which influencers you should follow and trust and which you should not.
00:44:42.000Yeah, I mean, so it's a, first of all, it's just a great question.
00:44:45.000I think it's an important one, and a lot of people are becoming aware of it.
00:44:49.000I think, as you said, an important thing is skin in the game.
00:44:52.000Not just are they doing actual work out there, but sort of is there any accountability if they're wrong about things?
00:45:00.000And more to the point, you should just, even if they don't, you should look for signs that like if they make predictions, do you have to look, sorry, I'm stumbling over my words.
00:45:10.000You want to look for a long-term pattern here.
00:45:13.000You should see, does this person offering like consistent takes on things?
00:45:17.000That doesn't mean they have to be right all of the time, but are they clearly coming from some sort of ideological foundation?
00:45:23.000Can you anticipate how this person will react to things in a way that isn't just chasing after clicks?
00:45:30.000Another thing I think that's worth looking towards is if a person is often alluding to having secret knowledge or foreknowledge of things, does that actually pan out?
00:45:41.000Because a very common way to sort of grift or attention bait is to suggest you have secret sources about stuff and then nothing ever comes of it.
00:46:05.000And if they are doing that consistently, one of the great things on X, you can actually make lists of different users and you can put someone on your list of this person actually BS's me a lot.
00:46:15.000Or you could put someone else, this person actually has been reliable.
00:46:44.000People enjoy getting really worked up about things.
00:46:47.000And if a user is deliberately feeding that, if they're encouraging you to get really, really angry all the time about every new thing, if they're encouraging really drastic action all of the time, I find that's a sign that they're often just chasing after the most clicks that they can get rather than trying to lead you in a good direction.
00:47:07.000And I think Charlie was good about that.
00:47:08.000Charlie could be very strong in his views, but he wasn't endlessly having meltdowns about things.
00:47:19.000I think it was a really, really good one.
00:47:21.000Unless, Danny, you want to add anything to it?
00:47:24.000No, I just think staying consistent, if you continue to just keep going back and forth on different issues and keep contradicting yourself, then you can't really be trustworthy.
00:48:28.000And for those under 16, direct messages are turned off.
00:48:32.000Only their friends can comment on their videos.
00:48:34.000And that kind of approach matters because feeling confident and comfortable about these platforms your teenagers are on shouldn't mean digging through a bunch of menus and trying to set everything up yourself and worrying that you got it wrong.
00:48:46.000TikTok is taking a proactive approach.
00:48:49.000Their protections are built in from the moment those teenagers join so that safety and peace of mind for parents is there right from the start.
00:48:57.000All of this is to say, when safety comes first, discovery and creativity can follow without fear.
00:49:03.000Learn more by going to tick tock.com/slash guardiansguide.
00:50:14.000But anyways, the point is, I was talking with my wife, and she looked at me and she just kind of like threw up her hands and she goes, Isn't it great that you and me are good and that our kids are healthy?
00:50:26.000Like, isn't it good that doesn't matter like what's going on, what challenges that we have each other and that our relationship is strong?
00:50:39.000It doesn't matter everything that's swirling, all the tension, all the conflict.
00:50:43.000You know, I'm grateful for my wife and my family.
00:50:46.000And I'm grateful that I have a Christian faith that has, you know, guarded my heart and has guarded my life and helped me make better decisions.
00:50:57.000There's a pastor that I used to download his podcast all the time and listen to him.
00:51:03.000And he would acknowledge the fact he's kind of a blunt guy.
00:51:08.000And he said, you know, if I didn't have, if I wasn't saved by Jesus Christ, I'd be drunk, alone, divorced, and alone in some basement somewhere.
00:51:19.000And, you know, it was kind of, it's a blunt way to put it, but I do think that there is an element of all of our lives that if we didn't, if we weren't grounded in something eternal and something true and something that is tried and tested over the years and the millennia, that we would find ourselves in a really, really terrible spot.
00:51:36.000Sometimes you still find yourself in a really terrible spot, but I'm grateful for those lasting things and those good things.
00:51:46.000Charlie was very good about gratitude, even in even in defeat.
00:51:50.000I remember he was going on about the importance of gratitude right after the 22 midterms, which were very rough.
00:51:54.000And he did a great bit on Thanksgiving.
00:51:56.000Like, we have the most gratitude right now because we recognize the stuff that is truly central to us, which is faith, which is family, which is the immediacy around us, everything God's given us.
00:52:07.000I'm very grateful for those basic things.
00:52:11.000I know there's a lot of doomerism about the U.S. I'm kind of grateful.
00:52:14.000Like, I think about the very basic things that I can still, as much as people complain, I can count on like a functional country, the rule of law.
00:52:27.000I try to always take myself back to those very root things.
00:52:31.000Like, as much as we are worried about this country, we have a very nice one, and we see a lot of things breaking down all around the world.
00:52:37.000And as much as we're annoyed by things that unfold around the world, for example, there's this war in the Middle East, and I don't think any of us like that it's happening.
00:52:47.000We do live in a country that is basically at peace.
00:52:50.000But I wanted to get more on that because I wanted to ask you, Danny, are you grateful?
00:52:54.000Do you have gratitude for Ohio State football?
00:53:30.000I will say, I am grateful the Packers won a Super Bowl, and I'm like, I want them to win more, but I'm glad we got one, which Minnesota Vikings fans will never get to experience.
00:54:56.000So I don't know if there's a discussion of a freeze on all spousal visas.
00:55:01.000I imagine even if we were to do a well, I go back and forth on this because obviously we've talked about a moratorium.
00:55:07.000It would feel extreme to say, oh, you can't bring your spouse in from abroad.
00:55:11.000I also have to, we also have to be very aware.
00:55:13.000If we were to crack down in all other forms, it would encourage a big increase in, let's be frank, fraudulent marriage visas because people will find any means they can to get into the U.S. If you want an example, Ilhan Omar.
00:55:25.000Yeah, I mean, if you want an example, we also have a visa for victims of crimes who can stay in the U.S. so they can testify in a case or whatever.
00:55:33.000And just the other day, we had yet another indictment.
00:55:36.000We've had many of these where they've caught rings of people faking crimes against their friends so that those friends can then get that visa and stay in the U.S.
00:55:45.000I think your idea of a one-person limit is or a one-lifetime limit is a good idea.
00:55:53.000Another one might be you maybe have to add some like threshold expense to it, which I know is a pain, but it would encourage you to be very serious about those things.
00:56:03.000There's ways we can go about it, but the truth is $15,000 expense.
00:57:25.000But a net zero would essentially be about 200, 250,000 people would still be admitted because that's how many people are leaving the country every year.
00:57:34.000So as soon as the spot opens up, it opens up, right?
00:57:37.000To Blake's point, though, the second that you start making exceptions or carve-outs, people will exploit them.
00:57:44.000And so you've got to, the starting point needs to be very firm, very rigid, and very exacting.
00:57:50.000And the point is, is because we've just been so taken advantage of.
00:58:13.000I think that's a good, that might be a good start, but it's a complicated topic.
00:58:18.000And I think to kind of put a bow on it, a big thing to remember here is there's so many ways our system is just constantly exploited because we don't take the idea of having a good immigration policy seriously.
00:58:30.000And if we really did that, if we were serious about any immigrant who comes to the U.S. should be improving the country, we should not be allowing criminals.
00:58:49.000And I think marriage visas for clear cases where it makes sense to allow it is one of the less damaging things that we can have compared to the just endless importation of foreign farm workers, tech workers, and so on.
00:59:05.000One person, you're not bringing your family up here.
01:00:25.000So mine's also about immigration as well.
01:00:29.000I don't know if you were aware that Ali Largiani, who was a senior Iranian official in the Supreme Leaders National Guard, he was basically the guy who got the 40,000 protesters killed.
01:00:44.000He's like a truly evil person and he was recently wiped out by Israel.
01:00:48.000His daughter is a professor, well, was a professor at Emory University and had gotten her green card in 2021.
01:00:55.000I don't know if you guys, not 2010, I think it was 2020.
01:02:13.000She was, she had a faculty position at Emory.
01:02:16.000And I don't know exactly how that came to pass, but this is a guy who's senior in a regime that is an enemy of the United States.
01:02:23.000And it seems like something broke if she's able to just very easily come here, unless we have hard proof that she's like basically a huge opponent of everything, you know, of the regime.
01:02:35.000Like if she was an action, if she had skin in the game as someone who'd like fought against the regime.
01:02:40.000Yeah, but I don't, yeah, it seems like she's flying back over there.
01:02:42.000And frankly, just looking at her faculty portrait, I don't think that she's an enemy of the regime.
01:02:47.000It just, it gets back to what we said with the last segment.
01:02:49.000We have such an unserious immigration policy.
01:02:52.000We just casually bring in people who are hostile to America, who are scamming America, who are plundering America.
01:02:59.000And as soon as we make it a priority to not let that happen, there's so many benefits we can build up for the United States.
01:03:07.000By the way, the White House announced a review of all immigration benefits granted to Iranians, which has been labeled a country of concern.
01:04:46.000There was a clip played during one of the breaks where Charlie was talking with a gentleman from Oregon, where I'm from, who wasn't sure if he should get involved in his local election.
01:04:55.000I myself am looking to move to South Carolina.
01:04:57.000What did Charlie, and what do you guys think about conservatives moving from blue states to deep red states?
01:05:55.000Of course, Andrew, you've also come out to Arizona.
01:05:59.000I think in general, another reason, besides just political calculations, Charlie would want people to move to red states because you can live a better life in a red state.
01:06:33.000The movement of people to red states has been hugely helpful for us.
01:06:37.000We're better able to win elections because red states are growing, blue states are shrinking, and as long as we keep our states on side, that's going to produce a lot of benefits for us.
01:06:47.000Big if in places like North Carolina and Georgia.
01:06:49.000Those are the two I'm most worried about.
01:06:51.000Yeah, I mean, they love to bluify our red states.
01:07:20.000Yeah, one of the main reasons why I started listening to Charlie Kirk, and I loved this about Charlie, was his obsession with winning elections.
01:07:30.000One of the main reasons why I donate to you guys is because turning point action.
01:07:36.000And I don't want to say I'm a what do you guys call them the black pillars of the doomers, right?
01:07:42.000I don't know what you guys call it, but basically, I'm extremely worried about the midterms.
01:07:47.000But what I would like to see is, and I'm going to use, I think, Blake's term because he's a Catholic guy, the conservative conclave.
01:07:56.000I'm going to call it the, I'm kind of calling it the conservative conclave, where we focus energy comparing policy from Dems to Republicans.
01:08:08.000There's a book called Questioning to the Close.
01:08:11.000If you look at the response from Amiga Spamberger after the State of the Union, she just kept asking three questions: what has Trump done?
01:08:52.000You trust the ones that have skin in the game and that are actually working elections and trying to get the right people elected.
01:08:57.000It got me thinking about this because a reason they wouldn't be comparing Republican policies to Democrat ones is if they're just promoting conflict within the movement.
01:09:05.000And that's something we should have said about who you can trust.
01:09:08.000Look at who you're picking fights with.
01:09:10.000You want, I love the, I love to talk about the words that are on a Claymore mine for military lingo: front towards enemy.
01:09:16.000They should be facing the enemy, which is the left.
01:09:19.000And if instead they're facing your own guys and finding reasons to stoke conflict with other Republicans without really good reason, like, okay, we attack Lindsey Graham for reasons that we hope we're very clear on.
01:09:31.000But if they're constantly finding new Republicans to beef with, that's not a good thing.
01:09:57.000And this is why I was so adamant about getting through, right?
01:10:00.000It's like I get so angry when this infighting is not helping anybody.
01:10:08.000But this is kind of why I'm calling it the conservative conclave, because it's like we're grabbing people from this space and saying, look, guys, if we lose the midterm in the Senate and the House, Trump is done.
01:10:22.000If we lose the House, he's not out of office.