The Charlie Kirk Show - Rep. Devin Nunes | How to Beat the Deep State, Big Tech, and Win the Propaganda War Waged Against America.

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00:00:09.000 On this episode of the Charlie Kirk Show, I have an amazing conversation with the courageous Congressman Devin Nunez.

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00:01:24.000 Hey, everybody.

00:01:24.000 Welcome to this special episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:27.000 I am joined by one of the few fighters and someone who is in the pursuit of truth in the halls of Congress, Congressman Devin Nunez.

00:01:37.000 Congressman, welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:01:39.000 Charlie, it's great to be with you.

00:01:40.000 Thanks for having me today.

00:01:41.000 Of course.

00:01:42.000 So, Congressman, you have been in an amazing leadership role uncovering, let's just say, the improprieties, the alleged crimes of the prior administration and the people at the highest levels of law enforcement.

00:01:55.000 There's a lot of conversations happening right now around abuses of power and law enforcement.

00:02:00.000 And connecting the two together, you've actually been trying to find out what happens at the top levels of our government when people abuse that power.

00:02:09.000 Who holds them accountable?

00:02:11.000 Congressman, to be honest with you, I follow this news every day.

00:02:14.000 I read hours and hours of newspapers and articles.

00:02:18.000 Even I have a hard time keeping up with all the developments, all of the documents, the arbitrage of information.

00:02:25.000 In fact, I think in some ways, it's made intentionally difficult for everyday citizens to keep up with what's happening.

00:02:32.000 Can we just start with what have we learned recently about the FISA abuse, the Clinton campaign, their involvement in funding the dossier?

00:02:41.000 What revelations have been made recently thanks to the terrific Rick Grinnell and the transparency campaign he was on?

00:02:48.000 Just catch us up the speed here because there's been so much else going on in the country.

00:02:53.000 Well, thank you.

00:02:53.000 And I think it's important to understand that last point that you made is that this is connected to political motives.

00:03:03.000 This isn't just about dirty cops, as I like to say, on either side of this.

00:03:08.000 It's not just about dirty cops on both of these issues that are in the news now.

00:03:13.000 What happened is, is you had a Democratic operation that was funded by the Clinton campaign that ends up spoiling somehow the FBI.

00:03:24.000 And that is what is still that remains out there that we have not solved, which is what the U.S. Attorney Out of Connecticut is looking at, Charlie, is how, what are the origins of this?

00:03:35.000 You know, what actually happened in late 2015 and early 2016, where you had a parallel investigation that was being run by both the FBI and the Clinton campaign, and it was really a smear job by the Clinton campaign, fed into the FBI.

00:03:50.000 At what time did that become the same investigation?

00:03:54.000 That is really at the origins of this and what we need to know about.

00:03:59.000 And so then you fast forward, I always look at this in kind of the second tranche, which is what happened after the election where the FBI decided to double, triple, quadruple down on this, involving other players that ultimately ended up with the Mueller special counsel.

00:04:16.000 So there are two U.S. attorneys that are looking at everything surrounding before the election, after election.

00:04:26.000 And look, I think the good news here, yes, what's the latest?

00:04:31.000 The good news is, is we don't know.

00:04:33.000 And I say that because that's how investigations are supposed to be run.

00:04:39.000 You know, we should not have any investigation going on in this country by federal or local law enforcement where the fake news media, which I know you cover a lot, and I'm sure we'll get into that on this show because I think it really is jeopardizing the future of this country right now.

00:04:56.000 But because we're not hearing anything come from Barr or Durham or the U.S. attorney out of St. Louis that's looking into the Michael Flynn investigation, this is all good news.

00:05:08.000 I think it means that they have a lot of evidence.

00:05:10.000 I think they're trying to figure out where they're going to bring indictments, and that's what we're waiting for.

00:05:16.000 Now, we have a separate investigation, House Republicans on the Intelligence Committee that we've been running since 2017 that hasn't stopped.

00:05:27.000 Now, a lot of people are frustrated because they always want us to do something, but you have to understand we're the legislative branch of government.

00:05:34.000 We don't have badges.

00:05:35.000 We don't have guns.

00:05:36.000 All we can do is make criminal referrals.

00:05:40.000 We've made a lot of criminal referrals.

00:05:42.000 More are in the process of being made.

00:05:44.000 And we've now kind of completed what I would say is kind of phase two of our investigation overall, where we've just completed in the last week kind of all of our unanswered questions that we expect the Department of Justice to get to the bottom of if Republicans and conservatives are ever going to have any faith in the system.

00:06:08.000 So that's kind of where we are today, and I'm sure we can go a lot of directions from there.

00:06:12.000 But hey, thanks for having me on, and we'll keep going here.

00:06:15.000 Yeah, some great points.

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00:07:14.000 But Congressman, you know, we had Tom Fitten on from Judicial Watch, who is a transparency crusader and has really, I think, delivered for the American people, as have you, to try to get to the bottom of this because there is a concerted effort by the media to cover this up and then also to legitimize the alleged criminal conduct that happened.

00:07:35.000 And what do I mean by that?

00:07:36.000 They've gone out of their way to platform and pay Andrew McCabe to platform and pay Lisa Page to actually incorporate the actors that were involved in this and bring them into the media enterprise to almost give them cover fire.

00:07:50.000 Hey, can I interrupt?

00:07:51.000 Don't forget, just in the last few days here, you had Twitter hire Jim Baker, who was as their deputy general counsel.

00:08:00.000 You really can't make this up.

00:08:02.000 And I think that part of it is that they want to make it even more difficult in the court of public opinion to go after some of these individuals to try to prevent that from actually happening.

00:08:12.000 And so, but Congressman, you mentioned something.

00:08:16.000 I want to dive into this because, you know, we get thousands of emails every single week from our listeners.

00:08:23.000 And they can email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:08:25.000 They say, Charlie, where are the indictments coming?

00:08:28.000 When are they coming?

00:08:29.000 I'm growing uneasy.

00:08:30.000 And Tom Fitton does not think that anything of significance is coming through.

00:08:35.000 And so, I mean, I've seen people prosecuted and convicted and sent to jail for far less on just circumstantial evidence of what we have on Peter Strzok and just what we know to be true about how the warrants were signed, about the abuse of power, about him bragging in those text messages.

00:08:56.000 I mean, you get a motivated prosecutor and, you know, a fair jury.

00:09:01.000 I think that some of these people definitely could end up in prison.

00:09:03.000 So I'm not exactly even sure what is needed beyond that, but I don't want to say that that's the extent of the investigation.

00:09:10.000 Can you give our listeners at least some comfort that justice will be served by this Durham probe?

00:09:17.000 Because we're in June now.

00:09:19.000 We're getting close to the election.

00:09:20.000 I don't want all of a sudden us to be in September.

00:09:23.000 And then they say, well, we don't want to interfere with the election.

00:09:25.000 We don't want to do what James Comey did in 2016.

00:09:28.000 Can you add some context there?

00:09:30.000 Because I get so many questions about this.

00:09:32.000 Well, look, that is, let's take that last question first.

00:09:37.000 That would be totally unacceptable to claim there's an election because nobody political, so to speak, is involved in this. 0.89

00:09:44.000 Hillary Clinton, her campaign's the one that paid for this. 0.95

00:09:47.000 She's not on the ballot.

00:09:49.000 And if you want to talk about political interference, the main reason why Republicans lost control and I lost control of the gavel is because they had this Russia hoax going.

00:10:01.000 It was direct interference by the FBI, by the Department of Justice, in the 2018 election.

00:10:08.000 So not only did they hurt Trump in 2016, ultimately he still prevailed, all through 2017 and 18, this was their fundraising tool that helped to allow them to throw us out of office because you still have in this country, and I want to get to this later, you have over half the people in this country who believe Trump had something to do with Russia.

00:10:30.000 When the reality is the only people that had anything to do with Russia were the dirty cops in the FBI that were supposed to be actually tracking the Russians and the Clinton campaign.

00:10:40.000 Those are the people that had anything to do with Russia.

00:10:43.000 So we have a collapse, and this is why I support what you're doing and I really respect what you're doing and I want to help you in everything you're doing because we have at least half the country, if not 60% of the country, that is getting news and information through a funnel.

00:11:00.000 But we'll come back to that.

00:11:01.000 So look, Tom Fitton is a good friend of mine.

00:11:07.000 We could not have done nearly what we did without him getting to the bottom of and opening up and getting transparency out, things that we needed for our investigation.

00:11:17.000 And we continue, as we need information, we publicly say it.

00:11:21.000 And hopefully groups like Judicial Watch go out and look at that information and try to get that information because I'm all for transparency too.

00:11:30.000 Look, I understand why Tom could be negative, that nobody's going to be held accountable, because that's what we've seen in this country for the last several years.

00:11:41.000 But look, I have to, you know, I'm a glass half full guy.

00:11:44.000 I have faith that this something's going to get done. 0.99

00:11:48.000 And I always say that nobody wants these bastards locked up more than me, except for maybe President Trump, because no one's been attacked like me. 0.98

00:11:57.000 I want to see these guys locked up, and I'm doing everything that I can in my power to make sure that that happens. 0.99

00:12:04.000 So I think the way you have to look at it is Tom and I see the world very, very similarly.

00:12:09.000 I'm just kind of a half glass full guy, and I've got to hold out faith in the justice system that justice will be served.

00:12:20.000 Yeah, well, that's well said.

00:12:21.000 I just want to be very specific.

00:12:22.000 Tom was talking about how risks are probably just going to be slapped, if at all, basically.

00:12:29.000 That if the idea of true justice towards this is not something that he was overly bullish on.

00:12:37.000 And that remains to be seen.

00:12:39.000 And I can sympathize with that because there are a lot of people that are growing impatient.

00:12:43.000 And I want to thank you for your commitment to that.

00:12:44.000 You made a great point, Congressman, which if we're talking about election interference, the one question we never got an answer to is when did Mueller know what he knew?

00:12:55.000 Because he published his report, if I remember correctly, in April or May of 2019.

00:13:03.000 And you don't just come to that conclusion.

00:13:07.000 I mean, he was basically writing the Encyclopedia Britannica.

00:13:10.000 I mean, it was an unnecessarily long report about an exoneration and about just innuendo around the president.

00:13:18.000 Well, I hate to correct you on your own show, but you can't call this like, I mean, don't, please don't disparage Encyclopedia Britannica.

00:13:27.000 They actually have a fairly good reputation.

00:13:31.000 This is more like Wikipedia on steroids, okay?

00:13:34.000 That's what Mueller put together. 0.99

00:13:36.000 Two volumes of it, two volumes of crap. 0.98

00:13:39.000 The first volume on Russian collusion, which failed. 0.96

00:13:43.000 It reads more like a fictional Russian spy novel than it does actually a report because they left out the people that were actually colluding with the Russians.

00:13:51.000 And that was the Clinton campaign and the FBI themselves that Mueller had to know about the day he walked in the door.

00:13:58.000 Then the second volume, the second book of Moeller, was a conspiracy theory about trying, it was an obstruction of justice trap that they were trying to trip up the Trump campaign into.

00:14:13.000 Now, let's just back up to Moeller.

00:14:17.000 At some point, if you watch the testimony of Moeller before our committee in Congress in July of 2019, after the report had been out for a few months, it's clear that Mueller didn't know what the hell was going on.

00:14:31.000 And so the question, you know, he has a lot of similarities to Joe Biden hiding in his basement.

00:14:36.000 Okay.

00:14:36.000 And I'm not, we're all going to get there at some point.

00:14:40.000 But clearly, something was not right with Moeller.

00:14:44.000 I don't know how far you have to go back to, you know, because when Mueller walks in the door in May of 17, okay, when they stand up the special counsel, there's no Russians to be found.

00:14:57.000 And in fact, there's hard evidence to the contrary.

00:15:01.000 So where does Mueller begin to fall apart and lose his mental capacity?

00:15:06.000 Did he have it on day one?

00:15:07.000 Did he lose it somewhere in the process there?

00:15:09.000 I don't know.

00:15:10.000 The only people that really have some insight into that is Trump's attorney, John Dowd, who's actually been pretty good on this.

00:15:18.000 He's done a few interviews on it.

00:15:19.000 You know, and he's talked about where, what's your evidence?

00:15:22.000 What's your evidence?

00:15:23.000 What's your evidence?

00:15:24.000 They never present any evidence.

00:15:26.000 And the Trump campaign and the Trump administration, I mean, they let them go through everything.

00:15:33.000 There's nothing that wasn't turned over in that first year when John Dowd finally goes to Mueller and says, what the hell do you have here?

00:15:42.000 Why do you have to interview the president of the United States?

00:15:44.000 And then John Dowd, thankfully, I think really probably saved the presidency because he resigned.

00:15:50.000 He quit as a lawyer for President Trump because President Trump and his other advisors had decided that President Trump was going to testify.

00:15:58.000 And John Dowd, to his credit, knew that was totally insane to have a president testify when there's no underlying crime whatsoever.

00:16:07.000 So he did the American people, I think, a big favor there.

00:16:10.000 And he would be the only one, Charlie, that I would know.

00:16:13.000 Because, you know, I never spoke to Mueller during that time period.

00:16:16.000 Rosenstein should know, right?

00:16:18.000 He had to have interactions with him.

00:16:21.000 He's the only one that really had interactions until, look, isn't it ironic that when we get a real attorney general, Attorney General Barr, who's a grown-up and a professional, I mean, he gets confirmed.

00:16:33.000 And look, maybe someday he'll write a book.

00:16:38.000 Maybe Attorney General Barr will write a book and we'll find this out.

00:16:42.000 But Mueller goes away.

00:16:44.000 Mueller runs into hiding.

00:16:45.000 All these guys run away.

00:16:46.000 Oh, we're finished.

00:16:47.000 Because I think probably Barr went in there and says, okay, where are the Russians?

00:16:51.000 What do you got?

00:16:52.000 Nothing.

00:16:53.000 I mean, it's just a matter of time.

00:16:54.000 They're closing this thing down.

00:16:56.000 And look, they were already just, I've talked about this a lot.

00:16:59.000 You've probably talked about it.

00:17:00.000 I mean, you've been in conservative circles for a while, Charlie, so you know this.

00:17:04.000 But when you get to the point where you're going after Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone, no offense, I'm not speaking ill to them or ill of them at all, but they're not exactly, I mean, they're just kind of, you know, they're like political gadflies.

00:17:20.000 These are never, these are not players in the Republican Party.

00:17:24.000 They're just people that go to conventions and they talk and they're pundits, but they're not leaders.

00:17:31.000 And the fact that, and I think I said this at the time, like, you know, Mueller completely went off the rails when he was trying to, when he was pitting Jerome Corsi versus Roger Stone, which are two guys that are notorious for just, you know, creating havoc and chaos and kind of being their own free agents.

00:17:49.000 But, you know, those guys never deserve to be investigated by Mueller for a crime that never had occurred.

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00:18:43.000 There's so much there, and it actually strikes interesting to me, Congressman.

00:18:48.000 You mentioned something that actually applies to the political area we're in.

00:18:51.000 And I encourage us to talk about it.

00:18:54.000 The Mueller model is you find someone that has a lot of prestige, that has a great resume, who's been around Washington, D.C. for 30, 40 years, mentally in decline, but can be a front of a broader movement.

00:19:09.000 Kind of sounds like what they're trying to do with Joe Biden.

00:19:11.000 And the Mueller model is: hey, how could you possibly impugn his amazing record?

00:19:16.000 But then you have these radicals underneath him like Weissman and all these other, let's just say, highly conflicted individuals that use Mueller as a front that almost make them untouchable in the eyes of the media and the public opinion and also in Congress.

00:19:35.000 And so it's really interesting when we get back to Mueller.

00:19:39.000 We forget this.

00:19:39.000 I mean, we've been through so much as a country in the last couple of years, Congressman.

00:19:44.000 It feels as if it's a couple decades worth of drama that has been fit into one term.

00:19:48.000 It's remarkable.

00:19:49.000 And how the president has sustained and is continually optimistic and positive is something that is so noteworthy and so historic.

00:19:58.000 But we forget that the Mueller investigation was supposed to be the leading indicator or the better way to word it would be, is supposed to be the reason for impeachment.

00:20:09.000 And it fell so flat.

00:20:11.000 And then they conveniently found a phone call with some whistleblower and all of that.

00:20:16.000 It was a premeditated impeachment.

00:20:18.000 And they went to a place they didn't want to go, but they wanted to impeach him at almost all costs.

00:20:25.000 And so, Congressman, I want to ask about kind of broadly, is there going to be continued investigations into the whistleblower, into the testimonies that you had to sit through in the minority, into Bob Mueller?

00:20:38.000 Because the way they went about their diabolical Trump destruction campaign was so out off the rails that if Republicans ever did what they did, I mean, it would be illegal.

00:20:51.000 Well, look, let me first say, Charlie, that we were guilty, Republicans in Congress, including me and all of us, we were guilty when they brought Mueller in.

00:21:02.000 We actually thought, okay, look, a figure that's been around a while.

00:21:07.000 He's trustworthy.

00:21:09.000 This will be great.

00:21:10.000 He'll get in there.

00:21:11.000 And within a month or two, I remember walking out of the meeting where Rosenstein sits down with, ironically, McCabe was in the room.

00:21:18.000 They've written about it in their book, talking about what happened in Gang of Eight meetings.

00:21:22.000 They actually tried to kick me out of the meeting, which is a whole other story.

00:21:28.000 And so, you know, which was clearly obstruction of justice, obstruction of our investigation.

00:21:32.000 You know, you only now learn about it later because I thought it was Pelosi that was complaining to Rosenstein to get me kicked out of the meeting.

00:21:38.000 I didn't realize it was McCabe.

00:21:40.000 So, you know, clearly they were, you know, doing something with me, corrupt, you know, looking at me.

00:21:44.000 Something was going on.

00:21:45.000 We'll probably never know the truth there.

00:21:48.000 But when they appoint Mueller that day, I remember walking out and we're like, okay, good.

00:21:51.000 Geez.

00:21:52.000 You know, we've been looking at this already for four months.

00:21:54.000 There's no Russians to be found.

00:21:56.000 I'm the chair of the intelligence committee.

00:21:58.000 I have access to all the information.

00:22:00.000 They've provided not one piece of evidence of any Russian anywhere around Trump.

00:22:07.000 So I look at the Mueller thing and I think, wow, this is great.

00:22:10.000 Mueller's going to come in, boom, boom, boom, it'll be done.

00:22:13.000 And then it just goes on and on and on, conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory that they chase down, where finally they're going after, you know, Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone.

00:22:23.000 It's quite phenomenal.

00:22:24.000 And I'll just tell you: look, we've looked closely at the Mueller team.

00:22:29.000 We continue to look closely at the Mueller team.

00:22:32.000 We will have criminal referrals on the Mueller team.

00:22:35.000 The challenge that we have overall is that you can maybe pick off ones and twos here and there for people that were really corrupt as it related to General Flynn, where you had the doctorine of evidence.

00:22:50.000 But the overall problem here is that Mueller operates with impunity because he was assigned to this by the federal government.

00:23:00.000 And so you can't indict somebody like that, which is too bad.

00:23:05.000 But look, Mueller deserves to be indicted, but the problem is that he has immunity and you can't, there's, you know, no court would hear that.

00:23:14.000 Well, it's the Mueller model they're going to try to replicate and duplicate.

00:23:17.000 So you use someone that has a resume a mile long, that knows every single player, that has friends on both sides, and then you staff them and you fill that infrastructure, that void, with 28-year-old campus radicals that were probably throwing Molotov cocktails.

00:23:32.000 And I kid you not, some of the people that were in New York City throwing Molotov cocktails were partners at law firms or potential partners that graduated from Princeton and Fordham.

00:23:40.000 And so I'm not out of bounds by saying that.

00:23:42.000 So you know what we could do?

00:23:44.000 We can tear down these statues of Abraham Lincoln and we'll erect statues of Robert Moeller somewhere.

00:23:49.000 Maybe that's what they want to do.

00:23:50.000 We're taking down.

00:23:51.000 They'll put a statue of Moeller right in Chaz, right in Seattle there.

00:23:55.000 Yeah, well, and I'll tell you, they still have the statue of Vladimir Lennon in downtown Seattle, but they're taking down statues of Abraham Lincoln.

00:24:04.000 It's not exactly a good leading indicator.

00:24:07.000 Pick that up.

00:24:07.000 I didn't even know there was a statue of us.

00:24:09.000 You said Stalin and Lenner are in Seattle.

00:24:12.000 Vladimir Lenin.

00:24:13.000 There's an untouched, not graffitied statue of Vladimir Lenin, the genocidal Marxist maniac in downtown Seattle.

00:24:23.000 And that one's not going to get torn down anytime soon.

00:24:25.000 In fact, it will probably be protected.

00:24:27.000 Probably so.

00:24:28.000 We'll get one of Chairman Mao next and put it right next to him. 0.95

00:24:32.000 They'll have their idols to worship there in Chaz.

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00:25:56.000 Congressman, Greg Jarrett recently came on our program and he hinted that additional criminal referrals are coming.

00:26:03.000 Did that happen?

00:26:04.000 And can you give us any hints?

00:26:05.000 And are you able to name names?

00:26:07.000 I know you have some restrictions on that.

00:26:08.000 Well, I mean, I don't have a restriction, so to speak, on naming names.

00:26:14.000 And I get this question a lot.

00:26:17.000 But I just like to believe that we're running a real investigation here.

00:26:22.000 And we've, House Republicans, Charlie, are the only ones that have run a real investigation.

00:26:28.000 And it goes back to what we were talking about earlier when you talked about Durham.

00:26:32.000 How do I know that Durham's doing a real job right?

00:26:34.000 He's not leaking.

00:26:36.000 And I think the only reason why we have credibility as House Republicans on the Intelligence Committee is because we never leave.

00:26:45.000 We never talked.

00:26:46.000 We did our business.

00:26:47.000 We went about our business.

00:26:49.000 We collected information.

00:26:50.000 We've processed it.

00:26:52.000 And as we, like I told you, we've just completed kind of the second kind of phase of our investigation.

00:26:59.000 It's now complete because we kind of keep a running total of unanswered questions, so to speak.

00:27:06.000 And then we'll make referrals as that goes.

00:27:08.000 So, you know, I'm never going to get into like who we name.

00:27:13.000 I just don't think it's appropriate because I don't have a badge and I don't have a gun.

00:27:17.000 But look, at some point, you can bet you can take this, is that for sure we have a volume of this.

00:27:24.000 And so, if Durham's not successful, and we don't want to jeopardize, the other reason is we don't want to jeopardize, we assume there's a real investigation going on.

00:27:32.000 Number one, we don't want to give, we have a lot of facts, we have a lot of evidence.

00:27:36.000 We don't want the guys who have done wrong and bad things to know what we have.

00:27:41.000 That's number one.

00:27:43.000 Number two, we don't want to spoil whatever Durham's going to come up with and make it political at all.

00:27:48.000 And so, it's not that I can't tell you.

00:27:51.000 I could name all the names now.

00:27:53.000 But look, you know who the names are.

00:27:55.000 I mean, I guarantee if you follow the Russia hoax, you know who the names are.

00:27:58.000 So, you don't need to hear it from me.

00:28:01.000 And the best thing for us to do is continue to do our investigation and not talk, you know, only talk about the things that I think generally people need to know.

00:28:09.000 Well, you're a decent human being, unlike Congressman Adam Schiff, who, when he goes to the bathroom, is leaking Donald Trump Jr.'s testimony illegally, allegingly.

00:28:18.000 And my phone number, and my phone number, too, by the way, in my phone calls.

00:28:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:28:22.000 Don't forget that.

00:28:23.000 Going to the telecom companies and with no real legal precedent doing what he did there.

00:28:29.000 So, Congressman, I want to get into the General Flynn situation.

00:28:33.000 You've been on top of this, and there's so many questions about it.

00:28:38.000 Can you explain to me how on earth this case has not been dropped yet?

00:28:45.000 I am failing to understand this, and a lot of concerned citizens are looking at this and they say, This doesn't seem right.

00:28:55.000 Who's even representing the prosecution?

00:28:57.000 How does that work if the government's dropped the case?

00:29:01.000 Well, look, what you've seen is everything's come full circle where you've had total takeover of the school systems, total takeover of all the universities, total takeover of the bureaucracy, kind of the creation of the deep state.

00:29:18.000 And now, what you've seen is it's finally spoiled and spilled over into the judicial system.

00:29:24.000 So, there's no question in my mind that this judge is a complete hack and totally out of bounds.

00:29:33.000 And I say that just to kind of back everybody up.

00:29:36.000 I've known General Flynn since 2005, 2006.

00:29:39.000 The guy is an American war hero.

00:29:41.000 He was the greatest intelligence officer in a generation.

00:29:47.000 He was revered.

00:29:50.000 So, the whole idea here that General Flynn was somehow some kind of Russian agent was preposterous on its face and would have been like the biggest scandal.

00:30:00.000 Can you imagine the head of our defense military intelligence was a Russian spy?

00:30:05.000 I mean, that would have been a scandal of all scandals for warfare for three or four hundred years.

00:30:11.000 I don't even know an example where you have the top military intelligence official being a traitor and going to the other side.

00:30:20.000 It just doesn't exist in history.

00:30:22.000 So, it would be a huge scandal.

00:30:26.000 But what's even worse is, you know, we knew early on because they came and testified to us that meaning the FBI and the DOJ testified to us about what the agents believed Flynn had said or not said.

00:30:41.000 And they didn't believe he was lying.

00:30:43.000 We knew about this in, I guess that would have been March, late February, early March of 17.

00:30:51.000 Then you fast forward when we put out our report, which I still tell people to go read because it's the gold standard report, our Russian active measures report.

00:31:00.000 We had a lot of people lost sight of this.

00:31:03.000 There were massive redactions made, things that were kept classified.

00:31:08.000 Okay, so they had initial, they declassified a report.

00:31:11.000 It took months.

00:31:12.000 Finally came out.

00:31:13.000 Guess what?

00:31:15.000 Guess what was still blacked out?

00:31:16.000 The part where we said, hey, General Friend, the agents didn't think that General Flynn had lied.

00:31:21.000 That was covered up.

00:31:22.000 I mean, there's just another crime right there.

00:31:25.000 Like, who was doing that in 2018?

00:31:28.000 Who made those decisions at the FBI and DOJ to keep that part blacked out about the agents not thinking General Flynn?

00:31:36.000 That was in our report.

00:31:38.000 So, you know, there's just so much here.

00:31:40.000 It's very, very frustrating with General Flynn.

00:31:44.000 I hope that this appeals court, you know, they really have to save this country.

00:31:49.000 The judges have to step up.

00:31:51.000 You know, whatever judges that are out there that are that are Clinton appointees and Obama appointees, if they want this to stop before we get into, I mean, because we are in a propaganda civil war right now.

00:32:04.000 And we are at a tremendous disadvantage, which is why I'm coming on your show because we have very few outlets where we get to actually talk and get this out to hundreds of thousands of people like you have the ability to do.

00:32:17.000 We just don't have those avenues.

00:32:19.000 In fact, so much so, and I'm not shamelessly plugging my podcast because I'm not, you know, I don't do it for a living.

00:32:26.000 I have a podcast for one reason, one reason only.

00:32:29.000 That is so that my constituents, number one, people of California, number two, people of the nation, number three, and people around the world, number four, can hear from me directly so that I'm not being interrupted by this propaganda news media that is essentially the state-run operation of the Democratic Party.

00:32:50.000 I mean, that's what we have to do now.

00:32:52.000 So, everyone should subscribe to the Devin Nunez podcast.

00:32:55.000 Type it in, subscribe.

00:32:58.000 Well, look, if you want to, and my only point is, I mean, I'm not like you, I'm not doing it every day, but I do it once or twice a week.

00:33:04.000 And it's the only venue that I have to get and reach the American people.

00:33:09.000 And, you know, look, and that's because it's not just that 90% of the media is controlled by the Democratic Party, including, by the way, Black Lives Matter.

00:33:20.000 Okay. 0.52

00:33:21.000 Black Lives Do Matter.

00:33:22.000 All Lives Matter.

00:33:24.000 But if you're giving money to Black Lives Matter, that's going directly to Act Blue.

00:33:27.000 It's going through Act Blue.

00:33:28.000 They're collecting all of your information.

00:33:30.000 And then guess what they're going to do?

00:33:32.000 They have all that data.

00:33:33.000 So the innocent person, I feel bad because a lot of people think they're giving to Black Lives Matter because it's going to the Floyd family, maybe going to pay the funeral expenses. 0.88

00:33:42.000 You know, people legitimately probably think that.

00:33:45.000 What they're doing is, is they're collecting all your information and they're going to market to you so that they can raise millions of dollars in the fall to support Democratic candidates.

00:33:55.000 That's what this is.

00:33:56.000 That's the best point I've heard about the Act Blue.

00:33:59.000 It's a very good point because Candace Owens and I were texting back and forth and Candace came out with the Act Blue revelation very early.

00:34:08.000 And it wasn't a surprise to me because I figured that's how they did it.

00:34:12.000 And she and both you said, and this is exactly right, the processing fee is marginal for Act Blue.

00:34:18.000 It's not about that.

00:34:19.000 They will use your email, your credit card information.

00:34:23.000 They'll save it within that portal.

00:34:25.000 And then they will hit you time and time again to say, hey, since you care about racial justice, Joe Biden is your guy.

00:34:32.000 Can you chip in $3?

00:34:33.000 Since you care about this, and so then the amount of data is easy.

00:34:37.000 It's like being part of Amazon.

00:34:39.000 That's how I describe it.

00:34:40.000 Once you're on Amazon, and the reason look that Amazon is such a successful company, they have all your information, and then it's just a single click.

00:34:48.000 So you can sit there on your iPad or your, you know, whatever you, or your, your personal device, and you just later, they'll be marketing to you, just like you said, Charlie B, you know, contribute to, you know, we got to defeat this guy.

00:35:01.000 And you said, it's a one click and done.

00:35:04.000 That's it.

00:35:05.000 You don't got to waste time with credit cards or anything like that.

00:35:08.000 And look, and the Republicans, we have something called Win Red.

00:35:12.000 We're way behind in our avenue.

00:35:17.000 But can you imagine if the money from Black Lives Matter was being funneled into Win Red, which is the Republican fundraising arm?

00:35:25.000 You know, it's just, it wouldn't even be intolerant.

00:35:28.000 I want you to imagine what if the lockdown protests were being funneled by WinRET through WinRED.

00:35:33.000 Let's just use something that was generally supported by the center right.

00:35:37.000 I mean, if WinRed was the processing arm of trying to get people back to work, forget it.

00:35:42.000 So I do want to talk about this, Congressman.

00:35:44.000 You represent a district in California, and California has made the decision to commit suicide as a state, metaphorically, of course.

00:35:53.000 The lockdown measures are so draconian.

00:35:55.000 The science does not dictate continually keeping people locked up.

00:35:59.000 But despite that, allegedly, this is the most woke virus on the history of the planet.

00:36:05.000 Where if you are protesting racial injustice, the health experts say go do that because it's actually a bigger threat than white supremacy. 0.99

00:36:12.000 In California, Los Angeles, you have the second worst govern governor, the second worst mayor, I should say, in the history of the world, Mayor Eric Garcetti, who is so weak, cowardly, hypocritical, it's hard to even be able to articulate it. 0.96

00:36:25.000 Where he's now said he's going to defund the Los Angeles police by $100 million and give it to, I don't know, where it's going. 0.95

00:36:33.000 So give us a status report on California.

00:36:35.000 It's the largest state.

00:36:36.000 It's a beautiful state.

00:36:38.000 That's a big question.

00:36:39.000 We could do a whole show on this, but I do think I have some good information.

00:36:43.000 So I'm halfway between Los Angeles and San Francisco.

00:36:47.000 I'm in the agricultural area.

00:36:48.000 I call it the breadbasket of the solar system.

00:36:51.000 So I'm really isolated from what we call kind of the Hollywood left and the Bay Area left.

00:36:59.000 But we have been under attack.

00:37:01.000 So the reason that I got into politics is because the environmental green movement, which is really a red movement, we always call it the watermelon movement because it's green on the outside.

00:37:11.000 Because everybody's for clean air, clean water, and all that.

00:37:14.000 But it's really a communist movement on the inside because we know that here in my area because they've been trying to take our water.

00:37:20.000 They shut down the timber industry here when I was just a kid, just killing thousands of jobs.

00:37:26.000 The place where a lot of these jobs should have been developed instead of being shipped off to China and other parts of Asia or other states, because Silicon Valley is a small place, but great technology.

00:37:37.000 They should have been building those plants in my area that's just a couple hours away where we have plenty of labor, plenty of land.

00:37:45.000 But look, it never happened.

00:37:47.000 We even have plenty of places for solar panels, so we could put solar panels.

00:37:50.000 I mean, it's just crazy that, you know, so why did that not happen?

00:37:54.000 Why were those jobs not created here?

00:37:55.000 Why has this area always been some of the highest unemployment?

00:37:58.000 It's because all those jobs, it's so expensive to live here that jobs have left, and you have to basically work for the government or you have to be a tech tech billionaire or you have some kind of legacy money.

00:38:13.000 But, you know, hardly anyone is trying to start up a small business here.

00:38:16.000 So the last week, I went around California a little bit.

00:38:21.000 And I will tell you this.

00:38:22.000 I mean, you see, for the most part, people are totally ignoring what this governor and mayor are saying, the mayor of LA.

00:38:30.000 They're totally ignoring it, okay?

00:38:32.000 And especially, and I think that's especially true, getting back to your point that you said when the protests and the riots and all that stuff happened.

00:38:39.000 I mean, you seldom see now anywhere people wearing masks, except where they have to wear a mask to get into the store.

00:38:47.000 But I was actually out on the beach a couple days ago, and I probably saw, I was just walking, I was just walking, it was early in the morning, and there was probably several thousand people out there.

00:38:59.000 I didn't see one mask.

00:39:00.000 I didn't see one mask on the central coast of California.

00:39:03.000 So I ran it the night before at dinner.

00:39:06.000 I had run into some folks that were from Los Angeles, and they're like, we just had to get out of Los Angeles. 0.62

00:39:11.000 We didn't want to be busted by the mask police.

00:39:15.000 And they were so thankful.

00:39:16.000 It was kind of funny to just to see me and they got nervous.

00:39:18.000 They put their masks on when they came in to see me.

00:39:20.000 And look, and I'm not against people wearing masks.

00:39:23.000 If you want to wear a mask, that's great.

00:39:24.000 But don't be confused by what Nancy Pelosi wears, which are really high-end women's scarves, okay, that designer scarves that match her outfit. 1.00

00:39:36.000 Those aren't masks, those aren't doing a damn thing. 0.95

00:39:39.000 And so, for the media and the left to let her get away with all those, you know, nice little pattern-design scarves that match her dress and pretend that that is something that's that's protecting you. 0.72

00:39:52.000 I'm sorry, that's not doing a damn thing for you.

00:39:56.000 And so, I think people are starting to slowly figure that out.

00:39:59.000 But I'll tell you, we have our work cut out for us because you know, the tech oligarchs, the tech tyrants, are really controlling.

00:40:08.000 They're that in it.

00:40:09.000 You have 90% of the content being developed that goes through a small funnel, which are Google and YouTube, one, Facebook and Instagram, two, and Twitter, three.

00:40:20.000 That's how the propaganda is being pushed through the system, funneled out to the people, which is why all these mistakes that from Garcetti, the mayor of LA, filling in a skateboard park, okay, that would be a fatal political mistake.

00:40:38.000 To, you know, what's happened to people here where, you know, some of these governors, Democratic governors or mayors have allowed their family to go to a state where they don't have to wear a mask and they can vacation.

00:40:50.000 That would be a fatal flaw to a Republican.

00:40:52.000 If I was wearing a fake designer mask around, that would be a fatal flaw to me.

00:40:57.000 You know, they'd be attacking me.

00:40:58.000 So, we have to find out as conservatives and as Republicans, if we're going to keep this Republican in this propaganda war, we have to find, I always call it one yard in a cloud of dust, right?

00:41:11.000 We've got to continue to wake up every day and fight and push and push because we can reach 40 to 45 percent of the people, but 55 percent of the people we can't reach.

00:41:24.000 And I'll just to finish this thought up: one of the reasons why the impeachment hoax imploded in their face.

00:41:33.000 Okay, if you remember in October, November, it by anybody's stretch of imagination, when it was before the House Intelligence Committee, it imploded in their face, the Democrats' face and the media space.

00:41:46.000 You know why that happened?

00:41:48.000 I'll give you a time exactly.

00:41:53.000 It was the first time you saw House Republicans more in that one week than you saw in the last 20 years.

00:42:04.000 And that's why ABC, CBS, they were all carrying it because it was Watergate is back.

00:42:10.000 We're going to carry this live.

00:42:11.000 Guess what?

00:42:12.000 They got to see Adam Schiff and all these lunatics for the first time, really, unfiltered.

00:42:19.000 And then they got to see me and Jim Jordan and Lee Stefanik.

00:42:22.000 And, you know, we weren't like these KKK, you know, wearing like white hats, you know, from the South.

00:42:28.000 You know, they realized that, well, okay, these guys actually seem pretty reasonable.

00:42:32.000 And the polling crashed for them.

00:42:34.000 And guess what they did?

00:42:35.000 That's why they took those hearings off the air.

00:42:38.000 And then it ended up at the end.

00:42:39.000 Like they did tremendous damage to themselves for four or five days by just allowing us, even though that was totally stacked against us.

00:42:47.000 And we only got to talk for five minutes at a time before we get shut down.

00:42:54.000 The reason why, the filter was off.

00:42:57.000 And so that's the evidence to me as to why it's why I'm doing a podcast, why I'm doing your podcast, why I want to get this message out. 0.98

00:43:05.000 I don't want to be filtered anymore by these bastards, and I'm not going to be. 0.96

00:43:08.000 It's why the Republicans, and they don't listen to me, but including the president, by the way, including President Trump, we should not be taking questions from 90% of the media. 0.99

00:43:24.000 Would you walk into the Democratic National Committee and sit before two or three or four of their best lawyers?

00:43:30.000 No, you wouldn't.

00:43:31.000 So don't talk to these people.

00:43:34.000 Republicans, conservatives should not be talking to the media because the media is the arm of the Democratic Party, period.

00:43:43.000 Totally agree.

00:43:44.000 And I mean, when I get reached out to by almost every single one of these outlets, I'm like, yeah, no comment, whatever.

00:43:49.000 Just have fun with that.

00:43:50.000 And by the way, they need us to.

00:43:51.000 But Charlie, you can't say no comment.

00:43:56.000 I had to teach some of my colleagues this, especially Republicans on the Intel Committee, because they would write things like, Republicans are beating their dogs again.

00:44:03.000 Congressman so-and-so, Republican, refused to comment.

00:44:08.000 You can't do that.

00:44:10.000 You can't even say no comment.

00:44:12.000 You have to say, I didn't acknowledge any question from you.

00:44:16.000 Well, first of all, if they email you, you throw it in the trash bin.

00:44:20.000 You never respond.

00:44:21.000 If they come up to you and they ask you a question like, oh, you know, how long are you going to keep kicking your dog?

00:44:27.000 You have to say, stop.

00:44:28.000 I'm not acknowledging any question that you've ever asked.

00:44:32.000 I won't acknowledge a question from you in this lifetime or the next lifetime.

00:44:36.000 And you have to say that because if you say no comment, they'll say, he didn't want to talk about kicking his dog.

00:44:43.000 That's well put.

00:44:44.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:44:45.000 And so you mentioned the tech companies.

00:44:47.000 Let's talk about this for a second, Congressman, because you call them the tech oligarchs.

00:44:51.000 And I've been waiting for Republicans to use this language.

00:44:54.000 The president has signed the executive order a couple weeks ago.

00:44:58.000 I think it's a good starting point.

00:44:59.000 But just to give you an idea of how powerful these social media tech giants are, the incoming appointed, still-to-be-confirmed FCC commissioner, of which is one of the agencies that's supposed to oversee this executive order, has said that I don't agree with the order.

00:45:16.000 I don't like it.

00:45:16.000 This is the president's pick, Congressman.

00:45:19.000 And I think that you should lead a charge to get this guy completely withdrawn from confirmation.

00:45:23.000 But can we talk about these tech companies?

00:45:25.000 Because I talked, quite honestly, Congressman, you get it, but a lot of the more seasoned members of Congress, let's put it that way, they have no understanding.

00:45:33.000 They think that this is like a life improvement tool that might be controlled by the left.

00:45:40.000 They don't understand that this is actually where public discourse is.

00:45:43.000 This is consciousness.

00:45:44.000 This is not just a, what's the best way to word it?

00:45:48.000 It's not like a fitness app.

00:45:50.000 Like, oh, it's too bad that it's there.

00:45:51.000 Like, no, this is life.

00:45:52.000 What can we do?

00:45:53.000 Because I say that real action needs to be taken against these tech companies.

00:45:57.000 We need to look at antitrust.

00:45:58.000 We need to look at platform access as a civil right.

00:46:00.000 We need to look at litigation.

00:46:01.000 We need to look at FTC.

00:46:02.000 Because if the way this is headed right now, Congressman, both you and I will either not be allowed on these platforms or they will suppress us so heavily, they will blacklist us so much that if we're on the platforms, we won't be able to get our stuff out and we'll just be put in the corner and disciplined every day.

00:46:18.000 Yeah, so there's two things you can do.

00:46:21.000 And not all of us can do it, but the first issue is we have to bring lawsuits forward to protect our rights.

00:46:31.000 I like that you use the term, you know, we have civil rights as conservatives and Republicans.

00:46:35.000 And the civil rights code needs to be enforced for all political ideologies, not just some.

00:46:43.000 And so, you know, I'm bringing a case against Twitter.

00:46:47.000 I'm bringing several cases against the media companies on a number, including Fusion GPS.

00:46:53.000 So, those of us that have the wherewithal to bring these cases through the courts, just like Tom Fitton and the Judicial Watch is doing, we politicians, people in politics or conservatives in the media, have to bring these cases to the courts to hold these people accountable.

00:47:10.000 Because, look, the one thing that I've learned through the lawsuits that I'm filing is that guess what they don't want to do?

00:47:18.000 They never want to meet me in court.

00:47:20.000 They dodge, they stall, they obstruct.

00:47:24.000 They don't want to get into discovery with me.

00:47:26.000 Okay.

00:47:27.000 And you would think that, you know, as much as I've been villainized by the left and the media, I mean, look, I'm there.

00:47:35.000 I mean, they can come in and get discovery on me.

00:47:37.000 They can subpoena me.

00:47:38.000 They can get anything they want.

00:47:40.000 They can get into everything that I have. 0.94

00:47:43.000 Isn't it ironic that as one of the top villains for these fools for the last four years, that none of them want to get into discovery with me on these cases? 0.92

00:47:53.000 It's because they have a lot to hide. 0.93

00:47:56.000 They don't want to get into discovery.

00:47:57.000 So first and foremost, those that have the wherewithal have to bring cases against them.

00:48:02.000 Secondly, we've got to go to other platforms, right?

00:48:06.000 So that's why I'm doing podcast.

00:48:08.000 But also, there's a new platform out.

00:48:11.000 I think you're on there.

00:48:12.000 I think.

00:48:13.000 Parlor.

00:48:14.000 Parlor.

00:48:16.000 Parlor is actually really good technology.

00:48:19.000 It's kind of a cross between Instagram and Twitter.

00:48:23.000 And after what happened to the president being, I joined about, I don't know, four or five, six months ago.

00:48:29.000 And then a few weeks ago when the president was, when they went after and started censoring his tweets, I just said, okay, that's it.

00:48:36.000 It's done.

00:48:36.000 And I'm going to be on.

00:48:37.000 So I'm on Parlor every day and I'm encouraging all my friends.

00:48:41.000 I talk about it on my podcast.

00:48:44.000 I want people to go to Parlor and it's so nice there.

00:48:49.000 I remember when I first went there four or five months ago, Charlie, it was so sad to see people say, oh, I'm so glad you're there because I got kicked off of Twitter and Instagram a year ago.

00:49:03.000 These people are, they want to hear from us and they can't even get on the platforms.

00:49:08.000 Well, and Congressman, there's so many legal questions that have gone unanswered.

00:49:14.000 I've tweeted 42,700 times.

00:49:16.000 I have 1.7 million followers on Twitter.

00:49:18.000 I started in 2011.

00:49:20.000 If they digitally assassinate me, what happens to all my followers?

00:49:23.000 What happens to all my intellectual property that I've put on there?

00:49:26.000 My thoughts, my videos, my images, everything.

00:49:29.000 They all of a sudden can just make all that disappear?

00:49:33.000 That's more of a moral question.

00:49:35.000 Like, that's my stuff.

00:49:36.000 I don't care what user agreement I sign.

00:49:38.000 Fine, whatever.

00:49:39.000 But there's no way you can say, Twitter, that's your stuff just because I put it on your platform.

00:49:44.000 Those are my thoughts that I contributed to your social media company.

00:49:51.000 So in closing, Congressman.

00:49:55.000 Before we close on that, I just want to make sure you know you're now going to be protected, Charlie, because they have James Baker from the FBI now as the deputy counsel, deputy general counsel for Twitter.

00:50:08.000 I mean, I'm sure, I mean, just like Carter Page was protected in the Trump campaign, you know, all those clean great people, the dirty cops of the FBI, they're now at Twitter.

00:50:17.000 So have comfort.

00:50:18.000 You're going to be protected.

00:50:19.000 Yeah, right, sure.

00:50:20.000 But I have advised.

00:50:21.000 A little bit of sarcasm.

00:50:22.000 I have advised the president both publicly and privately that one day he should wake up and not use his Twitter.

00:50:31.000 Post somewhere else.

00:50:32.000 Do it for a day.

00:50:33.000 Do it for a week.

00:50:35.000 Watch Twitter's stock price plummet.

00:50:37.000 Now, I'm not advocating for stock manipulation at all, but that would just be a reality, a reality of what would happen because these tech companies need us too.

00:50:46.000 And conservatives have to recognize that people say, well, there's no price to it.

00:50:52.000 If you can't find out the price, that means you're the product, not the customer.

00:50:56.000 They're selling you.

00:50:57.000 They're selling your data and your information to the big company.

00:51:01.000 So I'm actually just shocked too, Charlie, by people's pensions in this country.

00:51:09.000 I bet nearly every major pension owns Twitter stock.

00:51:13.000 The board members of Twitter have a responsibility here.

00:51:17.000 And look, I think you like the platform.

00:51:19.000 I like the platform.

00:51:20.000 That's why you've been on it for so long.

00:51:22.000 It was a great platform until they started to develop content.

00:51:27.000 You know, if they would just, if they would just leave everybody alone, they'd have a great company.

00:51:32.000 But they haven't done that.

00:51:34.000 They've decided to get in and create content and to shadow ban guys like me to decide what's going to be acceptable and not.

00:51:45.000 I mean, it's just, it's absolutely incredible that, I mean, look, it's one thing to have a CEO and people that are making these horrible political decisions, but they have board members too.

00:51:57.000 They have a stock price like you bring up.

00:52:00.000 What the hell are the board members of Twitter doing?

00:52:04.000 This is total insanity.

00:52:07.000 They're going to take a great company and they're going to destroy it and they're going to wipe out people's life savings.

00:52:13.000 And it'll be a sad day when that happens.

00:52:16.000 Well, I'll tell you what.

00:52:17.000 I like the technology.

00:52:18.000 I do not like the company.

00:52:20.000 They do have a good user interface.

00:52:21.000 They've spent a lot of money on it and they have geniuses that have created a good technology.

00:52:26.000 However, where they have gone, they've now decided to be a social justice social media company.

00:52:32.000 So to close this, Congressman, just a couple minutes remaining.

00:52:35.000 I know you have a hard stop.

00:52:37.000 Give us a quick analysis.

00:52:38.000 Where are we heading in November?

00:52:40.000 There's a lot of pessimism going around.

00:52:41.000 The country is burning.

00:52:42.000 To be honest with you, Congressman, I have, you're one of the few people that stand up and fight.

00:52:46.000 One of the few.

00:52:47.000 Senator Tom Cotton is also one of them.

00:52:49.000 Congressman Matt Gates.

00:52:51.000 But quite honestly, the list is very short.

00:52:53.000 People are losing faith in the Republican Party, and I don't blame them because so few fight.

00:52:57.000 So few actually do what you do and play offense.

00:53:00.000 Where are we going here?

00:53:01.000 A lot of our listeners are saying, I feel like I'm fighting alone.

00:53:04.000 Where are our leaders?

00:53:06.000 Well, the main thing I have to always tell everybody is: remember, we're in the trenches.

00:53:11.000 We're all together.

00:53:12.000 There's very few of us.

00:53:14.000 As I talked about earlier, when you have 55% of the American people, they're not necessarily against us, but that information is being funneled to them, and they're being spoon-fed this propaganda.

00:53:26.000 We have to remember, Charlie, and I understand you like some of us that fight, but it's also our job.

00:53:31.000 It doesn't mean the rest of the Republicans or conservatives are bad people.

00:53:35.000 Now, there are some, but for the most part, they're really good people.

00:53:38.000 And there's a lot of people out there.

00:53:40.000 And the story I told you about the people that are on parlor that need help, that wanted to be part of the system and part of the process that now people are going to parlor and joining it.

00:53:51.000 It's the same true.

00:53:52.000 I talked about my frustration with my colleagues who still talk to these media companies.

00:53:57.000 It's frustrating, but it's up to those of us who have the ability, like you, with your Twitter following and your podcast and the things that I'm trying to do and other people that are trying to do these things.

00:54:11.000 We've got to show the way because I don't think it's necessarily that Republicans don't want to fight.

00:54:17.000 Sometimes they don't know how.

00:54:19.000 And look, you have to understand, remember what I told you earlier in this podcast in your audience?

00:54:25.000 I believed in Moeller at first.

00:54:28.000 You know, we all make mistakes, right?

00:54:29.000 If I had to, if I could go back, I mean, from day one when I was in that room when they tried to kick me out of it, you know, I should have said, what the hell are you doing open in a Russia investigation with a special prosecutor? 0.54

00:54:41.000 You know, F off.

00:54:42.000 That's what I should have said, but I didn't know at the time.

00:54:45.000 So I think what we have a responsibility to do, if I had to try to prioritize it, is we got to figure out how we're going to get from that 45% to 50%, how we're going to communicate that message to people.

00:54:58.000 And we've got to get everybody that's in the trenches with us.

00:55:01.000 We've got to get them on the team and show them how to get out of the trenches to reach those, that 5% or 10% or 15% of the people that we can reach.

00:55:11.000 The second thing that has to be done is... is we talked a little bit about Win Red.

00:55:16.000 We've got to be able to raise money.

00:55:18.000 I don't think people understand what the Democrats have figured out.

00:55:21.000 $5 a month, $20 a month, $50 a month makes all the difference in the world.

00:55:27.000 You know, we have 10 Senate races that really could use some help right now.

00:55:33.000 And we're going to have a playing field of about 30 to 50 Republicans that can beat Democrats that are going to be on the field this fall.

00:55:43.000 Imagine if everybody listening right now went out, joined Win Red, okay, and you just decided, hey, I'm going to adopt these 10 candidates.

00:55:52.000 I'm going to give them five bucks a month.

00:55:54.000 If everybody that was listening to you and all the other conservatives, just the podcast alone, went out and did that, we will have funded our races to where these candidates can be out there and they don't have to go to their local fake news outlet.

00:56:10.000 They don't have to rely on CNN.

00:56:12.000 They would have the money and the resources to do what I'm doing, which is to go around over the top below the media.

00:56:19.000 And I just had, I did an interview a couple of weeks ago, and maybe you've had him on your show, but if you haven't, you should.

00:56:25.000 He's in the Virginia state legislature right now.

00:56:27.000 His name is Nick Freitas.

00:56:29.000 He's running for Congress.

00:56:30.000 He has a really good shot to win right in the belly of the beast.

00:56:33.000 I mean, just below Washington, D.C.

00:56:35.000 He has a hell of a shot to win.

00:56:37.000 Military veteran, he's doing it.

00:56:40.000 He went out and created, he figured out he's not going to rely on the local media or the D.C. media. 0.64

00:56:44.000 He knows he's screwed there.

00:56:46.000 He created a podcast.

00:56:48.000 So, and it's not that every member of Congress, everybody running for Congress can create a podcast or even should, you know, but those are the types of things that have to be done between now and the election.

00:57:00.000 It's all of us realizing we're in the fight to save the soul of this country.

00:57:06.000 And two, making sure that the candidates that are out there on the front lines have the resources.

00:57:11.000 Well said, Congressman.

00:57:12.000 Well, you've been so generous to your time.

00:57:14.000 We have your back.

00:57:15.000 Please keep fighting.

00:57:16.000 And we're going to keep on trying to save our country.

00:57:19.000 So thanks so much, Congressman.

00:57:20.000 Charlie, and thank you for everything that you're doing.

00:57:23.000 Turning point and all that is just awesome.

00:57:25.000 You guys do a hell of a job.

00:57:26.000 And whatever I can do to be helpful, please, you can count on me and call me up.

00:57:31.000 Awesome.

00:57:31.000 Thanks, Congressman.

00:57:32.000 Talk to you soon.

00:57:33.000 Thank you.

00:57:33.000 All right.

00:57:34.000 Thank you.

00:57:37.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 18, 2020

Rep. Devin Nunes | How to Beat the Deep State, Big Tech, and Win the Propaganda War Waged Against America.

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