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00:01:42.000So, Congressman, you have been in an amazing leadership role uncovering, let's just say, the improprieties, the alleged crimes of the prior administration and the people at the highest levels of law enforcement.
00:01:55.000There's a lot of conversations happening right now around abuses of power and law enforcement.
00:02:00.000And connecting the two together, you've actually been trying to find out what happens at the top levels of our government when people abuse that power.
00:02:53.000And I think it's important to understand that last point that you made is that this is connected to political motives.
00:03:03.000This isn't just about dirty cops, as I like to say, on either side of this.
00:03:08.000It's not just about dirty cops on both of these issues that are in the news now.
00:03:13.000What happened is, is you had a Democratic operation that was funded by the Clinton campaign that ends up spoiling somehow the FBI.
00:03:24.000And that is what is still that remains out there that we have not solved, which is what the U.S. Attorney Out of Connecticut is looking at, Charlie, is how, what are the origins of this?
00:03:35.000You know, what actually happened in late 2015 and early 2016, where you had a parallel investigation that was being run by both the FBI and the Clinton campaign, and it was really a smear job by the Clinton campaign, fed into the FBI.
00:03:50.000At what time did that become the same investigation?
00:03:54.000That is really at the origins of this and what we need to know about.
00:03:59.000And so then you fast forward, I always look at this in kind of the second tranche, which is what happened after the election where the FBI decided to double, triple, quadruple down on this, involving other players that ultimately ended up with the Mueller special counsel.
00:04:16.000So there are two U.S. attorneys that are looking at everything surrounding before the election, after election.
00:04:26.000And look, I think the good news here, yes, what's the latest?
00:04:33.000And I say that because that's how investigations are supposed to be run.
00:04:39.000You know, we should not have any investigation going on in this country by federal or local law enforcement where the fake news media, which I know you cover a lot, and I'm sure we'll get into that on this show because I think it really is jeopardizing the future of this country right now.
00:04:56.000But because we're not hearing anything come from Barr or Durham or the U.S. attorney out of St. Louis that's looking into the Michael Flynn investigation, this is all good news.
00:05:08.000I think it means that they have a lot of evidence.
00:05:10.000I think they're trying to figure out where they're going to bring indictments, and that's what we're waiting for.
00:05:16.000Now, we have a separate investigation, House Republicans on the Intelligence Committee that we've been running since 2017 that hasn't stopped.
00:05:27.000Now, a lot of people are frustrated because they always want us to do something, but you have to understand we're the legislative branch of government.
00:05:36.000All we can do is make criminal referrals.
00:05:40.000We've made a lot of criminal referrals.
00:05:42.000More are in the process of being made.
00:05:44.000And we've now kind of completed what I would say is kind of phase two of our investigation overall, where we've just completed in the last week kind of all of our unanswered questions that we expect the Department of Justice to get to the bottom of if Republicans and conservatives are ever going to have any faith in the system.
00:06:08.000So that's kind of where we are today, and I'm sure we can go a lot of directions from there.
00:06:12.000But hey, thanks for having me on, and we'll keep going here.
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00:07:14.000But Congressman, you know, we had Tom Fitten on from Judicial Watch, who is a transparency crusader and has really, I think, delivered for the American people, as have you, to try to get to the bottom of this because there is a concerted effort by the media to cover this up and then also to legitimize the alleged criminal conduct that happened.
00:07:36.000They've gone out of their way to platform and pay Andrew McCabe to platform and pay Lisa Page to actually incorporate the actors that were involved in this and bring them into the media enterprise to almost give them cover fire.
00:08:02.000And I think that part of it is that they want to make it even more difficult in the court of public opinion to go after some of these individuals to try to prevent that from actually happening.
00:08:12.000And so, but Congressman, you mentioned something.
00:08:16.000I want to dive into this because, you know, we get thousands of emails every single week from our listeners.
00:08:23.000And they can email us, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:08:25.000They say, Charlie, where are the indictments coming?
00:08:30.000And Tom Fitton does not think that anything of significance is coming through.
00:08:35.000And so, I mean, I've seen people prosecuted and convicted and sent to jail for far less on just circumstantial evidence of what we have on Peter Strzok and just what we know to be true about how the warrants were signed, about the abuse of power, about him bragging in those text messages.
00:08:56.000I mean, you get a motivated prosecutor and, you know, a fair jury.
00:09:01.000I think that some of these people definitely could end up in prison.
00:09:03.000So I'm not exactly even sure what is needed beyond that, but I don't want to say that that's the extent of the investigation.
00:09:10.000Can you give our listeners at least some comfort that justice will be served by this Durham probe?
00:09:49.000And if you want to talk about political interference, the main reason why Republicans lost control and I lost control of the gavel is because they had this Russia hoax going.
00:10:01.000It was direct interference by the FBI, by the Department of Justice, in the 2018 election.
00:10:08.000So not only did they hurt Trump in 2016, ultimately he still prevailed, all through 2017 and 18, this was their fundraising tool that helped to allow them to throw us out of office because you still have in this country, and I want to get to this later, you have over half the people in this country who believe Trump had something to do with Russia.
00:10:30.000When the reality is the only people that had anything to do with Russia were the dirty cops in the FBI that were supposed to be actually tracking the Russians and the Clinton campaign.
00:10:40.000Those are the people that had anything to do with Russia.
00:10:43.000So we have a collapse, and this is why I support what you're doing and I really respect what you're doing and I want to help you in everything you're doing because we have at least half the country, if not 60% of the country, that is getting news and information through a funnel.
00:11:01.000So look, Tom Fitton is a good friend of mine.
00:11:07.000We could not have done nearly what we did without him getting to the bottom of and opening up and getting transparency out, things that we needed for our investigation.
00:11:17.000And we continue, as we need information, we publicly say it.
00:11:21.000And hopefully groups like Judicial Watch go out and look at that information and try to get that information because I'm all for transparency too.
00:11:30.000Look, I understand why Tom could be negative, that nobody's going to be held accountable, because that's what we've seen in this country for the last several years.
00:11:41.000But look, I have to, you know, I'm a glass half full guy.
00:11:44.000I have faith that this something's going to get done.
00:11:48.000And I always say that nobody wants these bastards locked up more than me, except for maybe President Trump, because no one's been attacked like me.
00:11:57.000I want to see these guys locked up, and I'm doing everything that I can in my power to make sure that that happens.
00:12:04.000So I think the way you have to look at it is Tom and I see the world very, very similarly.
00:12:09.000I'm just kind of a half glass full guy, and I've got to hold out faith in the justice system that justice will be served.
00:12:39.000And I can sympathize with that because there are a lot of people that are growing impatient.
00:12:43.000And I want to thank you for your commitment to that.
00:12:44.000You made a great point, Congressman, which if we're talking about election interference, the one question we never got an answer to is when did Mueller know what he knew?
00:12:55.000Because he published his report, if I remember correctly, in April or May of 2019.
00:13:03.000And you don't just come to that conclusion.
00:13:07.000I mean, he was basically writing the Encyclopedia Britannica.
00:13:10.000I mean, it was an unnecessarily long report about an exoneration and about just innuendo around the president.
00:13:18.000Well, I hate to correct you on your own show, but you can't call this like, I mean, don't, please don't disparage Encyclopedia Britannica.
00:13:27.000They actually have a fairly good reputation.
00:13:31.000This is more like Wikipedia on steroids, okay?
00:13:36.000Two volumes of it, two volumes of crap.
00:13:39.000The first volume on Russian collusion, which failed.
00:13:43.000It reads more like a fictional Russian spy novel than it does actually a report because they left out the people that were actually colluding with the Russians.
00:13:51.000And that was the Clinton campaign and the FBI themselves that Mueller had to know about the day he walked in the door.
00:13:58.000Then the second volume, the second book of Moeller, was a conspiracy theory about trying, it was an obstruction of justice trap that they were trying to trip up the Trump campaign into.
00:14:17.000At some point, if you watch the testimony of Moeller before our committee in Congress in July of 2019, after the report had been out for a few months, it's clear that Mueller didn't know what the hell was going on.
00:14:31.000And so the question, you know, he has a lot of similarities to Joe Biden hiding in his basement.
00:14:36.000And I'm not, we're all going to get there at some point.
00:14:40.000But clearly, something was not right with Moeller.
00:14:44.000I don't know how far you have to go back to, you know, because when Mueller walks in the door in May of 17, okay, when they stand up the special counsel, there's no Russians to be found.
00:14:57.000And in fact, there's hard evidence to the contrary.
00:15:01.000So where does Mueller begin to fall apart and lose his mental capacity?
00:15:26.000And the Trump campaign and the Trump administration, I mean, they let them go through everything.
00:15:33.000There's nothing that wasn't turned over in that first year when John Dowd finally goes to Mueller and says, what the hell do you have here?
00:15:42.000Why do you have to interview the president of the United States?
00:15:44.000And then John Dowd, thankfully, I think really probably saved the presidency because he resigned.
00:15:50.000He quit as a lawyer for President Trump because President Trump and his other advisors had decided that President Trump was going to testify.
00:15:58.000And John Dowd, to his credit, knew that was totally insane to have a president testify when there's no underlying crime whatsoever.
00:16:07.000So he did the American people, I think, a big favor there.
00:16:10.000And he would be the only one, Charlie, that I would know.
00:16:13.000Because, you know, I never spoke to Mueller during that time period.
00:16:21.000He's the only one that really had interactions until, look, isn't it ironic that when we get a real attorney general, Attorney General Barr, who's a grown-up and a professional, I mean, he gets confirmed.
00:16:33.000And look, maybe someday he'll write a book.
00:16:38.000Maybe Attorney General Barr will write a book and we'll find this out.
00:17:00.000I mean, you've been in conservative circles for a while, Charlie, so you know this.
00:17:04.000But when you get to the point where you're going after Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone, no offense, I'm not speaking ill to them or ill of them at all, but they're not exactly, I mean, they're just kind of, you know, they're like political gadflies.
00:17:20.000These are never, these are not players in the Republican Party.
00:17:24.000They're just people that go to conventions and they talk and they're pundits, but they're not leaders.
00:17:31.000And the fact that, and I think I said this at the time, like, you know, Mueller completely went off the rails when he was trying to, when he was pitting Jerome Corsi versus Roger Stone, which are two guys that are notorious for just, you know, creating havoc and chaos and kind of being their own free agents.
00:17:49.000But, you know, those guys never deserve to be investigated by Mueller for a crime that never had occurred.
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00:18:54.000The Mueller model is you find someone that has a lot of prestige, that has a great resume, who's been around Washington, D.C. for 30, 40 years, mentally in decline, but can be a front of a broader movement.
00:19:09.000Kind of sounds like what they're trying to do with Joe Biden.
00:19:11.000And the Mueller model is: hey, how could you possibly impugn his amazing record?
00:19:16.000But then you have these radicals underneath him like Weissman and all these other, let's just say, highly conflicted individuals that use Mueller as a front that almost make them untouchable in the eyes of the media and the public opinion and also in Congress.
00:19:35.000And so it's really interesting when we get back to Mueller.
00:19:49.000And how the president has sustained and is continually optimistic and positive is something that is so noteworthy and so historic.
00:19:58.000But we forget that the Mueller investigation was supposed to be the leading indicator or the better way to word it would be, is supposed to be the reason for impeachment.
00:20:18.000And they went to a place they didn't want to go, but they wanted to impeach him at almost all costs.
00:20:25.000And so, Congressman, I want to ask about kind of broadly, is there going to be continued investigations into the whistleblower, into the testimonies that you had to sit through in the minority, into Bob Mueller?
00:20:38.000Because the way they went about their diabolical Trump destruction campaign was so out off the rails that if Republicans ever did what they did, I mean, it would be illegal.
00:20:51.000Well, look, let me first say, Charlie, that we were guilty, Republicans in Congress, including me and all of us, we were guilty when they brought Mueller in.
00:21:02.000We actually thought, okay, look, a figure that's been around a while.
00:21:11.000And within a month or two, I remember walking out of the meeting where Rosenstein sits down with, ironically, McCabe was in the room.
00:21:18.000They've written about it in their book, talking about what happened in Gang of Eight meetings.
00:21:22.000They actually tried to kick me out of the meeting, which is a whole other story.
00:21:28.000And so, you know, which was clearly obstruction of justice, obstruction of our investigation.
00:21:32.000You know, you only now learn about it later because I thought it was Pelosi that was complaining to Rosenstein to get me kicked out of the meeting.
00:22:00.000They've provided not one piece of evidence of any Russian anywhere around Trump.
00:22:07.000So I look at the Mueller thing and I think, wow, this is great.
00:22:10.000Mueller's going to come in, boom, boom, boom, it'll be done.
00:22:13.000And then it just goes on and on and on, conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory that they chase down, where finally they're going after, you know, Jerome Corsi and Roger Stone.
00:22:24.000And I'll just tell you: look, we've looked closely at the Mueller team.
00:22:29.000We continue to look closely at the Mueller team.
00:22:32.000We will have criminal referrals on the Mueller team.
00:22:35.000The challenge that we have overall is that you can maybe pick off ones and twos here and there for people that were really corrupt as it related to General Flynn, where you had the doctorine of evidence.
00:22:50.000But the overall problem here is that Mueller operates with impunity because he was assigned to this by the federal government.
00:23:00.000And so you can't indict somebody like that, which is too bad.
00:23:05.000But look, Mueller deserves to be indicted, but the problem is that he has immunity and you can't, there's, you know, no court would hear that.
00:23:14.000Well, it's the Mueller model they're going to try to replicate and duplicate.
00:23:17.000So you use someone that has a resume a mile long, that knows every single player, that has friends on both sides, and then you staff them and you fill that infrastructure, that void, with 28-year-old campus radicals that were probably throwing Molotov cocktails.
00:23:32.000And I kid you not, some of the people that were in New York City throwing Molotov cocktails were partners at law firms or potential partners that graduated from Princeton and Fordham.
00:23:40.000And so I'm not out of bounds by saying that.
00:23:51.000They'll put a statue of Moeller right in Chaz, right in Seattle there.
00:23:55.000Yeah, well, and I'll tell you, they still have the statue of Vladimir Lennon in downtown Seattle, but they're taking down statues of Abraham Lincoln.
00:24:04.000It's not exactly a good leading indicator.
00:26:52.000And as we, like I told you, we've just completed kind of the second kind of phase of our investigation.
00:26:59.000It's now complete because we kind of keep a running total of unanswered questions, so to speak.
00:27:06.000And then we'll make referrals as that goes.
00:27:08.000So, you know, I'm never going to get into like who we name.
00:27:13.000I just don't think it's appropriate because I don't have a badge and I don't have a gun.
00:27:17.000But look, at some point, you can bet you can take this, is that for sure we have a volume of this.
00:27:24.000And so, if Durham's not successful, and we don't want to jeopardize, the other reason is we don't want to jeopardize, we assume there's a real investigation going on.
00:27:32.000Number one, we don't want to give, we have a lot of facts, we have a lot of evidence.
00:27:36.000We don't want the guys who have done wrong and bad things to know what we have.
00:27:55.000I mean, I guarantee if you follow the Russia hoax, you know who the names are.
00:27:58.000So, you don't need to hear it from me.
00:28:01.000And the best thing for us to do is continue to do our investigation and not talk, you know, only talk about the things that I think generally people need to know.
00:28:09.000Well, you're a decent human being, unlike Congressman Adam Schiff, who, when he goes to the bathroom, is leaking Donald Trump Jr.'s testimony illegally, allegingly.
00:28:18.000And my phone number, and my phone number, too, by the way, in my phone calls.
00:28:23.000Going to the telecom companies and with no real legal precedent doing what he did there.
00:28:29.000So, Congressman, I want to get into the General Flynn situation.
00:28:33.000You've been on top of this, and there's so many questions about it.
00:28:38.000Can you explain to me how on earth this case has not been dropped yet?
00:28:45.000I am failing to understand this, and a lot of concerned citizens are looking at this and they say, This doesn't seem right.
00:28:55.000Who's even representing the prosecution?
00:28:57.000How does that work if the government's dropped the case?
00:29:01.000Well, look, what you've seen is everything's come full circle where you've had total takeover of the school systems, total takeover of all the universities, total takeover of the bureaucracy, kind of the creation of the deep state.
00:29:18.000And now, what you've seen is it's finally spoiled and spilled over into the judicial system.
00:29:24.000So, there's no question in my mind that this judge is a complete hack and totally out of bounds.
00:29:33.000And I say that just to kind of back everybody up.
00:29:36.000I've known General Flynn since 2005, 2006.
00:29:50.000So, the whole idea here that General Flynn was somehow some kind of Russian agent was preposterous on its face and would have been like the biggest scandal.
00:30:00.000Can you imagine the head of our defense military intelligence was a Russian spy?
00:30:05.000I mean, that would have been a scandal of all scandals for warfare for three or four hundred years.
00:30:11.000I don't even know an example where you have the top military intelligence official being a traitor and going to the other side.
00:30:26.000But what's even worse is, you know, we knew early on because they came and testified to us that meaning the FBI and the DOJ testified to us about what the agents believed Flynn had said or not said.
00:30:43.000We knew about this in, I guess that would have been March, late February, early March of 17.
00:30:51.000Then you fast forward when we put out our report, which I still tell people to go read because it's the gold standard report, our Russian active measures report.
00:31:00.000We had a lot of people lost sight of this.
00:31:03.000There were massive redactions made, things that were kept classified.
00:31:08.000Okay, so they had initial, they declassified a report.
00:31:51.000You know, whatever judges that are out there that are that are Clinton appointees and Obama appointees, if they want this to stop before we get into, I mean, because we are in a propaganda civil war right now.
00:32:04.000And we are at a tremendous disadvantage, which is why I'm coming on your show because we have very few outlets where we get to actually talk and get this out to hundreds of thousands of people like you have the ability to do.
00:32:19.000In fact, so much so, and I'm not shamelessly plugging my podcast because I'm not, you know, I don't do it for a living.
00:32:26.000I have a podcast for one reason, one reason only.
00:32:29.000That is so that my constituents, number one, people of California, number two, people of the nation, number three, and people around the world, number four, can hear from me directly so that I'm not being interrupted by this propaganda news media that is essentially the state-run operation of the Democratic Party.
00:32:50.000I mean, that's what we have to do now.
00:32:52.000So, everyone should subscribe to the Devin Nunez podcast.
00:32:58.000Well, look, if you want to, and my only point is, I mean, I'm not like you, I'm not doing it every day, but I do it once or twice a week.
00:33:04.000And it's the only venue that I have to get and reach the American people.
00:33:09.000And, you know, look, and that's because it's not just that 90% of the media is controlled by the Democratic Party, including, by the way, Black Lives Matter.
00:33:33.000So the innocent person, I feel bad because a lot of people think they're giving to Black Lives Matter because it's going to the Floyd family, maybe going to pay the funeral expenses.
00:33:42.000You know, people legitimately probably think that.
00:33:45.000What they're doing is, is they're collecting all your information and they're going to market to you so that they can raise millions of dollars in the fall to support Democratic candidates.
00:33:56.000That's the best point I've heard about the Act Blue.
00:33:59.000It's a very good point because Candace Owens and I were texting back and forth and Candace came out with the Act Blue revelation very early.
00:34:08.000And it wasn't a surprise to me because I figured that's how they did it.
00:34:12.000And she and both you said, and this is exactly right, the processing fee is marginal for Act Blue.
00:34:40.000Once you're on Amazon, and the reason look that Amazon is such a successful company, they have all your information, and then it's just a single click.
00:34:48.000So you can sit there on your iPad or your, you know, whatever you, or your, your personal device, and you just later, they'll be marketing to you, just like you said, Charlie B, you know, contribute to, you know, we got to defeat this guy.
00:35:01.000And you said, it's a one click and done.
00:35:17.000But can you imagine if the money from Black Lives Matter was being funneled into Win Red, which is the Republican fundraising arm?
00:35:25.000You know, it's just, it wouldn't even be intolerant.
00:35:28.000I want you to imagine what if the lockdown protests were being funneled by WinRET through WinRED.
00:35:33.000Let's just use something that was generally supported by the center right.
00:35:37.000I mean, if WinRed was the processing arm of trying to get people back to work, forget it.
00:35:42.000So I do want to talk about this, Congressman.
00:35:44.000You represent a district in California, and California has made the decision to commit suicide as a state, metaphorically, of course.
00:35:53.000The lockdown measures are so draconian.
00:35:55.000The science does not dictate continually keeping people locked up.
00:35:59.000But despite that, allegedly, this is the most woke virus on the history of the planet.
00:36:05.000Where if you are protesting racial injustice, the health experts say go do that because it's actually a bigger threat than white supremacy.
00:36:12.000In California, Los Angeles, you have the second worst govern governor, the second worst mayor, I should say, in the history of the world, Mayor Eric Garcetti, who is so weak, cowardly, hypocritical, it's hard to even be able to articulate it.
00:36:25.000Where he's now said he's going to defund the Los Angeles police by $100 million and give it to, I don't know, where it's going.
00:36:33.000So give us a status report on California.
00:37:01.000So the reason that I got into politics is because the environmental green movement, which is really a red movement, we always call it the watermelon movement because it's green on the outside.
00:37:11.000Because everybody's for clean air, clean water, and all that.
00:37:14.000But it's really a communist movement on the inside because we know that here in my area because they've been trying to take our water.
00:37:20.000They shut down the timber industry here when I was just a kid, just killing thousands of jobs.
00:37:26.000The place where a lot of these jobs should have been developed instead of being shipped off to China and other parts of Asia or other states, because Silicon Valley is a small place, but great technology.
00:37:37.000They should have been building those plants in my area that's just a couple hours away where we have plenty of labor, plenty of land.
00:37:55.000Why has this area always been some of the highest unemployment?
00:37:58.000It's because all those jobs, it's so expensive to live here that jobs have left, and you have to basically work for the government or you have to be a tech tech billionaire or you have some kind of legacy money.
00:38:13.000But, you know, hardly anyone is trying to start up a small business here.
00:38:16.000So the last week, I went around California a little bit.
00:38:32.000And especially, and I think that's especially true, getting back to your point that you said when the protests and the riots and all that stuff happened.
00:38:39.000I mean, you seldom see now anywhere people wearing masks, except where they have to wear a mask to get into the store.
00:38:47.000But I was actually out on the beach a couple days ago, and I probably saw, I was just walking, I was just walking, it was early in the morning, and there was probably several thousand people out there.
00:39:16.000It was kind of funny to just to see me and they got nervous.
00:39:18.000They put their masks on when they came in to see me.
00:39:20.000And look, and I'm not against people wearing masks.
00:39:23.000If you want to wear a mask, that's great.
00:39:24.000But don't be confused by what Nancy Pelosi wears, which are really high-end women's scarves, okay, that designer scarves that match her outfit.
00:39:36.000Those aren't masks, those aren't doing a damn thing.
00:39:39.000And so, for the media and the left to let her get away with all those, you know, nice little pattern-design scarves that match her dress and pretend that that is something that's that's protecting you.
00:39:52.000I'm sorry, that's not doing a damn thing for you.
00:39:56.000And so, I think people are starting to slowly figure that out.
00:39:59.000But I'll tell you, we have our work cut out for us because you know, the tech oligarchs, the tech tyrants, are really controlling.
00:40:09.000You have 90% of the content being developed that goes through a small funnel, which are Google and YouTube, one, Facebook and Instagram, two, and Twitter, three.
00:40:20.000That's how the propaganda is being pushed through the system, funneled out to the people, which is why all these mistakes that from Garcetti, the mayor of LA, filling in a skateboard park, okay, that would be a fatal political mistake.
00:40:38.000To, you know, what's happened to people here where, you know, some of these governors, Democratic governors or mayors have allowed their family to go to a state where they don't have to wear a mask and they can vacation.
00:40:50.000That would be a fatal flaw to a Republican.
00:40:52.000If I was wearing a fake designer mask around, that would be a fatal flaw to me.
00:40:58.000So, we have to find out as conservatives and as Republicans, if we're going to keep this Republican in this propaganda war, we have to find, I always call it one yard in a cloud of dust, right?
00:41:11.000We've got to continue to wake up every day and fight and push and push because we can reach 40 to 45 percent of the people, but 55 percent of the people we can't reach.
00:41:24.000And I'll just to finish this thought up: one of the reasons why the impeachment hoax imploded in their face.
00:41:33.000Okay, if you remember in October, November, it by anybody's stretch of imagination, when it was before the House Intelligence Committee, it imploded in their face, the Democrats' face and the media space.
00:42:57.000And so that's the evidence to me as to why it's why I'm doing a podcast, why I'm doing your podcast, why I want to get this message out.
00:43:05.000I don't want to be filtered anymore by these bastards, and I'm not going to be.
00:43:08.000It's why the Republicans, and they don't listen to me, but including the president, by the way, including President Trump, we should not be taking questions from 90% of the media.
00:43:24.000Would you walk into the Democratic National Committee and sit before two or three or four of their best lawyers?
00:43:51.000But Charlie, you can't say no comment.
00:43:56.000I had to teach some of my colleagues this, especially Republicans on the Intel Committee, because they would write things like, Republicans are beating their dogs again.
00:44:03.000Congressman so-and-so, Republican, refused to comment.
00:44:59.000But just to give you an idea of how powerful these social media tech giants are, the incoming appointed, still-to-be-confirmed FCC commissioner, of which is one of the agencies that's supposed to oversee this executive order, has said that I don't agree with the order.
00:45:16.000This is the president's pick, Congressman.
00:45:19.000And I think that you should lead a charge to get this guy completely withdrawn from confirmation.
00:45:23.000But can we talk about these tech companies?
00:45:25.000Because I talked, quite honestly, Congressman, you get it, but a lot of the more seasoned members of Congress, let's put it that way, they have no understanding.
00:45:33.000They think that this is like a life improvement tool that might be controlled by the left.
00:45:40.000They don't understand that this is actually where public discourse is.
00:46:02.000Because if the way this is headed right now, Congressman, both you and I will either not be allowed on these platforms or they will suppress us so heavily, they will blacklist us so much that if we're on the platforms, we won't be able to get our stuff out and we'll just be put in the corner and disciplined every day.
00:46:18.000Yeah, so there's two things you can do.
00:46:21.000And not all of us can do it, but the first issue is we have to bring lawsuits forward to protect our rights.
00:46:31.000I like that you use the term, you know, we have civil rights as conservatives and Republicans.
00:46:35.000And the civil rights code needs to be enforced for all political ideologies, not just some.
00:46:43.000And so, you know, I'm bringing a case against Twitter.
00:46:47.000I'm bringing several cases against the media companies on a number, including Fusion GPS.
00:46:53.000So, those of us that have the wherewithal to bring these cases through the courts, just like Tom Fitton and the Judicial Watch is doing, we politicians, people in politics or conservatives in the media, have to bring these cases to the courts to hold these people accountable.
00:47:10.000Because, look, the one thing that I've learned through the lawsuits that I'm filing is that guess what they don't want to do?
00:47:40.000They can get into everything that I have.
00:47:43.000Isn't it ironic that as one of the top villains for these fools for the last four years, that none of them want to get into discovery with me on these cases?
00:48:44.000I want people to go to Parlor and it's so nice there.
00:48:49.000I remember when I first went there four or five months ago, Charlie, it was so sad to see people say, oh, I'm so glad you're there because I got kicked off of Twitter and Instagram a year ago.
00:49:03.000These people are, they want to hear from us and they can't even get on the platforms.
00:49:08.000Well, and Congressman, there's so many legal questions that have gone unanswered.
00:49:55.000Before we close on that, I just want to make sure you know you're now going to be protected, Charlie, because they have James Baker from the FBI now as the deputy counsel, deputy general counsel for Twitter.
00:50:08.000I mean, I'm sure, I mean, just like Carter Page was protected in the Trump campaign, you know, all those clean great people, the dirty cops of the FBI, they're now at Twitter.
00:50:37.000Now, I'm not advocating for stock manipulation at all, but that would just be a reality, a reality of what would happen because these tech companies need us too.
00:50:46.000And conservatives have to recognize that people say, well, there's no price to it.
00:50:52.000If you can't find out the price, that means you're the product, not the customer.
00:51:34.000They've decided to get in and create content and to shadow ban guys like me to decide what's going to be acceptable and not.
00:51:45.000I mean, it's just, it's absolutely incredible that, I mean, look, it's one thing to have a CEO and people that are making these horrible political decisions, but they have board members too.
00:51:57.000They have a stock price like you bring up.
00:52:00.000What the hell are the board members of Twitter doing?
00:53:14.000As I talked about earlier, when you have 55% of the American people, they're not necessarily against us, but that information is being funneled to them, and they're being spoon-fed this propaganda.
00:53:26.000We have to remember, Charlie, and I understand you like some of us that fight, but it's also our job.
00:53:31.000It doesn't mean the rest of the Republicans or conservatives are bad people.
00:53:35.000Now, there are some, but for the most part, they're really good people.
00:53:38.000And there's a lot of people out there.
00:53:40.000And the story I told you about the people that are on parlor that need help, that wanted to be part of the system and part of the process that now people are going to parlor and joining it.
00:53:52.000I talked about my frustration with my colleagues who still talk to these media companies.
00:53:57.000It's frustrating, but it's up to those of us who have the ability, like you, with your Twitter following and your podcast and the things that I'm trying to do and other people that are trying to do these things.
00:54:11.000We've got to show the way because I don't think it's necessarily that Republicans don't want to fight.
00:54:28.000You know, we all make mistakes, right?
00:54:29.000If I had to, if I could go back, I mean, from day one when I was in that room when they tried to kick me out of it, you know, I should have said, what the hell are you doing open in a Russia investigation with a special prosecutor?
00:54:42.000That's what I should have said, but I didn't know at the time.
00:54:45.000So I think what we have a responsibility to do, if I had to try to prioritize it, is we got to figure out how we're going to get from that 45% to 50%, how we're going to communicate that message to people.
00:54:58.000And we've got to get everybody that's in the trenches with us.
00:55:01.000We've got to get them on the team and show them how to get out of the trenches to reach those, that 5% or 10% or 15% of the people that we can reach.
00:55:11.000The second thing that has to be done is... is we talked a little bit about Win Red.
00:55:18.000I don't think people understand what the Democrats have figured out.
00:55:21.000$5 a month, $20 a month, $50 a month makes all the difference in the world.
00:55:27.000You know, we have 10 Senate races that really could use some help right now.
00:55:33.000And we're going to have a playing field of about 30 to 50 Republicans that can beat Democrats that are going to be on the field this fall.
00:55:43.000Imagine if everybody listening right now went out, joined Win Red, okay, and you just decided, hey, I'm going to adopt these 10 candidates.
00:55:52.000I'm going to give them five bucks a month.
00:55:54.000If everybody that was listening to you and all the other conservatives, just the podcast alone, went out and did that, we will have funded our races to where these candidates can be out there and they don't have to go to their local fake news outlet.
00:56:48.000So, and it's not that every member of Congress, everybody running for Congress can create a podcast or even should, you know, but those are the types of things that have to be done between now and the election.
00:57:00.000It's all of us realizing we're in the fight to save the soul of this country.
00:57:06.000And two, making sure that the candidates that are out there on the front lines have the resources.