The Charlie Kirk Show - Republican Capitulation and the Case Against Red Flag Laws

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today I'm the Charlie Kirk Show, a new quote-unquote bipartisan gun framework bill.

00:00:04.000 What does it mean?

00:00:05.000 Why are Republicans always capitulating yet calling it negotiation?

00:00:08.000 We'll go through that and more.

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00:00:26.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:02:10.000 There's almost no good way to get out of it except be in an 18 to 24 month recession depression.

00:02:16.000 So we're going to get into that in great detail as our show progresses.

00:02:20.000 I know that impacts a lot of you directly.

00:02:23.000 I've told the story many times, but I was condescendingly lectured by people in Wall Street.

00:02:29.000 There is no inflation, Charlie.

00:02:30.000 We look at all the numbers.

00:02:32.000 We know exactly what's happening here.

00:02:34.000 And I pushed back, this was back in February of last year.

00:02:36.000 I said, no, we're seeing inflation on the front lines.

00:02:39.000 Inflation is a very real thing.

00:02:41.000 We just created $7 trillion out of thin air.

00:02:44.000 How are we not going to see inflation?

00:02:45.000 I'm already starting to see it in grocery and lumber.

00:02:47.000 Oh, Charlie, leave it to us experts, is what I was told time again by people on the right, by the way, not just people on the left.

00:02:56.000 The people running our country, they have no idea what they're doing or they're doing intentionally.

00:03:05.000 I think it's a mixture of both.

00:03:07.000 But I first want to get into some of the breaking news around the Second Amendment.

00:03:13.000 Do you notice that we are always surrendering to the left when it matters?

00:03:19.000 Do you notice that they never capitulate to anything that we ask for?

00:03:23.000 How many Democrats went out of their way to go vote for the border wall?

00:03:28.000 How many Democrats went out of their way to go vote for increased border security?

00:03:35.000 How many Democrats went out of their way to try to give Donald Trump anything that he asked for back in 2016, 17, or 18?

00:03:44.000 How many?

00:03:45.000 None.

00:03:46.000 Zero.

00:03:46.000 They held the line.

00:03:49.000 Well, Chris Murphy from Connecticut has now come out and he has said, quote, we have a deal.

00:03:55.000 Today, a bipartisan group of 20 senators, 10 Democrats and 10 Republicans, is announcing a breakthrough agreement on gun violence, the first in 30 years that will save lives.

00:04:07.000 I think you'll be surprised at the scope of the framework.

00:04:10.000 Yeah, before I go any further, I actually agree with you, Senator Murphy from Connecticut.

00:04:13.000 I am pretty surprised.

00:04:15.000 I am surprised that Republicans from deep red states continually are able to betray their voters.

00:04:21.000 I am surprised that they're able to tell their voters one thing when it comes to size and scope of government, federal overreach, the Second Amendment, and they're coming to the table to even begin the quote-unquote negotiation process with you.

00:04:34.000 This is not a negotiation.

00:04:36.000 This is a capitulation.

00:04:39.000 I'm going to read through what Chris Murphy tweeted here, but there is not one concession from the Democrats.

00:04:48.000 Not one.

00:04:49.000 There's not one dollar bill that's going to be sent for armed security.

00:04:53.000 There's not one dollar bill here to try to harden our schools.

00:04:56.000 There's not one piece of appropriation to try to make it harder to get into our schools.

00:05:03.000 No, this is not a negotiation.

00:05:06.000 This is not coming to a middle ground.

00:05:08.000 This is Republicans agreeing with what the Democrats want to do.

00:05:11.000 Maybe not all that Democrats want to do, but part of what Democrats want to do.

00:05:16.000 Why is our country less free than it was 30 or 40 years ago?

00:05:21.000 It's because one side capitulates while calling it compromise.

00:05:27.000 Our side, the Republicans, they'll go to Washington, D.C. under the framework that they never have to try to drag Democrats to try to agree with them, but instead they have to go out of their way to try to agree at Democrats.

00:05:39.000 Why is that?

00:05:40.000 I think there's a deeper psychological issue of Republicans that just want to be liked.

00:05:48.000 I know that might sound as an oversimplification.

00:05:50.000 I know that might sound as kind of too easy of an answer, but it comes down to it.

00:05:55.000 You have people that in their life, they live very sad and miserable personal lives.

00:06:02.000 Very few of them have large families.

00:06:06.000 Very few of them would be content building communities or attending church services.

00:06:12.000 They want something more, and some of that is to get a sign of approval from the New York Times that I have here on my right hand.

00:06:18.000 Part of it is this deep yearning to be in the cool kids club.

00:06:23.000 The psychology of what drives a high school is no different than the psychology of what drives Congress.

00:06:29.000 The only difference is that you're appropriating trillions of dollars and the people are older.

00:06:37.000 The desire to be liked by the regime is a temptation that very few Republicans are able to resist.

00:06:48.000 And credit to Rand Paul and Mike Lee and Ron Johnson for their ability to consistently push back against this temptation.

00:07:00.000 Because when they come to you, it sounds like you get to be the bigger person.

00:07:03.000 Ooh, you get to be part of a bipartisan framework.

00:07:06.000 You're going to get a nice article here.

00:07:08.000 Here's how the New York Times wrote it.

00:07:10.000 Front page, by the way, and I'm sure they wake up early and they get their little latte and they feel so good about themselves.

00:07:17.000 Senators agree on framework for gun safety.

00:07:20.000 Rare bipartisan deal.

00:07:22.000 Narrow set of measures secures the backing of 10 Republicans.

00:07:28.000 Senate negotiators, see, it's not a negotiation.

00:07:31.000 It should be Senate surrenderers.

00:07:34.000 There's no negotiation.

00:07:36.000 The only negotiation is Republicans saying, well, we don't want to go that far.

00:07:40.000 We didn't want to go that far.

00:07:41.000 You know what a negotiation is?

00:07:42.000 Say, okay, we'll give you federal law against gun trafficking and straw purchasing, which we'll get into, by the way, a little bit later in the show.

00:07:52.000 We'll give you that if you give us money for armed guards at schools.

00:07:56.000 We'll give you this if you give us better training for teachers to be able to have firearms at their disposal.

00:08:03.000 That's a negotiation.

00:08:04.000 It's a give and take.

00:08:06.000 It's an ebb and flow.

00:08:08.000 A negotiation is that we are going to have new standards.

00:08:10.000 If you receive federal funding from schools, you're going to have to have a certain standard that you're going to have hardened schools, single point entry, that schools could potentially be fined if they leave doors open erroneously, if they don't have certain checks and balances.

00:08:31.000 These would be very, that would be a good negotiation.

00:08:34.000 Now, I wouldn't support some of this nonsense in this bill, this soon-to-be bill that they're announcing, but that would at least be a good faith negotiation.

00:08:43.000 Okay, you want to have billions of dollars in new funding for mental health.

00:08:46.000 I'm fine for that, including money for national build-out community mental health clinics.

00:08:52.000 Now, part of it is they say they have mental health and school safety.

00:08:55.000 We don't really know what that means.

00:08:57.000 It's not clear yet.

00:08:58.000 So we'll have to see in the bill.

00:09:00.000 Then it's very vague.

00:09:02.000 School safety could be masks for children.

00:09:05.000 School safety could be increased vaccination capacity.

00:09:10.000 You think I'm joking.

00:09:10.000 These people, these open-ended grants could be used for anything.

00:09:15.000 But the thrust of it, the backbone of this soon-to-be authored bill is the red flag laws.

00:09:23.000 It's the first thing.

00:09:24.000 Chris Murphy is enthusiastic to announce from Connecticut, the gun-grabbing Democrat, that he was able to swindle Republicans to come alongside of it.

00:09:35.000 Now, again, some of this is not that interesting.

00:09:38.000 Some of the stuff in this bill is, quite honestly, it's rather banal.

00:09:41.000 It's kind of boring.

00:09:42.000 It's very simple.

00:09:43.000 Some of this is horrifying and needs to be talked about.

00:09:46.000 In particular, the first item.

00:09:49.000 The first item around red flag laws.

00:09:53.000 We're going to build that out.

00:09:54.000 But if you want an answer as to why our country is significantly less free than when you grew up, it's because one side capitulates while they call it negotiation.

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00:10:55.000 Okay, so, I mean, you look, you read this bill from Murphy.

00:10:57.000 Some of this is fine.

00:10:59.000 Some of it I support, like billions and dollars for mental health.

00:11:01.000 Like, okay, absolutely.

00:11:02.000 I think that's necessary.

00:11:04.000 Some of it is rather banal.

00:11:06.000 Clarification of the laws regarding who needs to register as a licensed gun dealer to make sure all truly commercial sellers are doing background checks.

00:11:15.000 I have my skepticism of trusting the government to do that.

00:11:20.000 But the one that I really want to focus on is this red flag law thing.

00:11:24.000 I am enthusiastically against red flag laws. 0.99

00:11:27.000 Now, let me be very clear.

00:11:28.000 The people that support red flag laws or pushing for red flag laws largely, I think, have good intentions.

00:11:36.000 There are the gun grabbers that support red flag laws, and we know who they are.

00:11:41.000 Chris Murphy is one of them.

00:11:43.000 But I think that the general population, when they hear about a red flag law, they said, yeah, that's a great idea. 0.59

00:11:49.000 And so I want to kind of just level and just say, I hear you, but I see it completely differently.

00:11:57.000 And I'm going to tell you why.

00:11:59.000 Well, most Americans think that, yeah, we should have the ability to be able to throw a flag down, red flag, and prevent a firearm purchase if someone is deemed to be dangerous to themselves or the community.

00:12:12.000 So, for example, terrorists shouldn't be able to own guns, right?

00:12:16.000 I mean, terrorists are super dangerous.

00:12:18.000 We don't like terrorists.

00:12:20.000 And everyone would say, yes, of course, including most Republicans.

00:12:23.000 We don't want terrorists to own guns.

00:12:25.000 But what is a terrorist?

00:12:28.000 Now, it might be obvious to some people what a terrorist is.

00:12:30.000 You think of maybe ISIS or Al-Qaeda or an Islamic fundamentalist that wants to blow up the World Trade Center, or you think of Timothy McVeigh.

00:12:38.000 Those are all terrorists, or Eric Rudolph or Ted Kaczynski.

00:12:40.000 But what about your FBI or Department of Justice that calls you a terrorist?

00:12:45.000 Because they do.

00:12:47.000 The Department of Justice had a memo that said very clearly that if you show up to a school board meeting, you might be engaging in domestic terrorism.

00:12:56.000 According to an FBI whistleblower, the Federal Bureau of Investigation engaged in spying and surveillance against a mom from Moms for Liberty for simply owning a firearm.

00:13:06.000 So while it might sound good to have red flag laws against terrorists, what is a terrorist?

00:13:16.000 Well, if you turn on any news network right now, every single one has the January 6th committee, where they are not so subtly calling half the country terrorists.

00:13:27.000 Remember the Department of Homeland Security memo that came out many months ago?

00:13:31.000 The Department of Homeland Security that said people that challenge COVID mandates or vaccine mandates are the greatest threat to American national security in the homeland, that they might be engaging in terrorism?

00:13:45.000 Moms for Liberty co-founder is coming on the program this week.

00:13:49.000 She'll tell us all about it.

00:13:50.000 So here's what Chris Murphy said.

00:13:53.000 Major funding to help states pass and implement crisis intervention orders, red flag laws, that will allow law enforcement to temporarily take dangerous weapons away from people who pose a danger to others or themselves.

00:14:06.000 And that all sounds very fine and good.

00:14:09.000 What is the definition?

00:14:12.000 How do you clarify that?

00:14:13.000 Because, and how naive, honestly, for the Republicans that were capitulating, not negotiating, to not say, hold on a second, Chris Murphy, what do you have to say about the Department of Homeland Security saying that if you push back against mask mandates, you're a domestic terrorist?

00:14:30.000 You have an entire committee right now that is calling half the country coup sympathetic, insurrectionist, all this very, very heavily charged language.

00:14:43.000 So simultaneously, you have the Democrat Party and some Republicans via a committee accusing millions of people being potentially dangerous to not just themselves or their communities, but to the entire civilization.

00:14:59.000 And then we're supposed to just kind of take it that the federal government is now going to have increased red flag laws.

00:15:07.000 You see, I used to believe in these types of programs.

00:15:12.000 I remember being in eighth grade and a freshman in high school, passionately defending the Patriot Act.

00:15:20.000 The Patriot Act, which was, of course, increased domestic surveillance against terrorists.

00:15:25.000 Now, what was hilarious is that it was Democrats mostly that were the ones that were defending the civil liberties.

00:15:31.000 It was a very bizarre time.

00:15:32.000 And this is even weirder, I should say.

00:15:34.000 No one really knows what team they're on.

00:15:37.000 Points are made up and nothing matters.

00:15:39.000 I think that's the expression, as Drew Carey would say, from Whose Lions It Anyway.

00:15:42.000 It's all a fantasy land.

00:15:44.000 But I used to be a passionate defender of the Patriot Act.

00:15:47.000 Know a lot of you used to as well.

00:15:50.000 Yeah, we got to spy on the terrorists.

00:15:52.000 We got to hold them accountable.

00:15:53.000 And Ron Paul, to his credit, and previously Bernie Sanders, who used to actually be good on civil liberties, believe it or not, said, hold on a second, be careful of the government that calls you, that calls something a terrorist because you might one day be called a terrorist.

00:16:08.000 Now, Bernie Sanders believed that for a specific reason, because communists used to be called terrorists in the 60s and 70s.

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00:17:42.000 Charlie, just like the bots took over social media for their own agenda, red flag laws are likely to attract the same spurious abuse with organized anti-gun groups targeting people.

00:17:51.000 Larry from Yakima.

00:17:52.000 I totally agree.

00:17:55.000 So we have one side that continually capitulates, Republicans and Democrats that know they can always just kind of bring us over.

00:18:04.000 Now, who are the Republicans that did this?

00:18:06.000 Before I go further into the argument against red flag laws, John Cornyn from Texas.

00:18:13.000 I'd love anyone listening right now in Texas, feel free to email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:18:17.000 Did you go elect John Cornyn to try to make it harder for people to own weapons?

00:18:24.000 Tom Tillis from North Carolina, I can't imagine North Carolina is on board for this.

00:18:30.000 Senator Toomey, now I will say something about Senator Toomey.

00:18:35.000 Not a big fan of his, but it's a very interesting argument, which is, I'll be very honest, I'm a huge fan in theory of term limits.

00:18:49.000 I think term limits in theory are great, but I think it's actually a little bit messier when it comes to the topic of term limits than people realize.

00:19:02.000 Because Toomey, he can vote for whatever he wants to vote for right now, largely because he doesn't have an upcoming election.

00:19:10.000 He doesn't care.

00:19:10.000 He's retiring.

00:19:12.000 So for people that think that term limits is our ultimate salvation structurally, I push back against it.

00:19:18.000 Now, if you were to say, Charlie, would you support term limits?

00:19:22.000 I would.

00:19:23.000 But I just want to say it's a little bit messier than people might take when it comes to term limits.

00:19:30.000 Senator Joe Manchin, no surprise.

00:19:32.000 Senator Blumenthal is still serving in Vietnam.

00:19:36.000 Senator Collins, no surprise.

00:19:38.000 Lindsey Graham of South Carolina.

00:19:42.000 What is going on with Lindsey Graham lately?

00:19:47.000 Lindsey Graham.

00:19:49.000 So let me get this straight.

00:19:50.000 Lindsey Graham is enthusiastic about arming Ukrainians, but is trying his best to put forth red flag laws that very well could disarm his own voters. 0.55

00:20:02.000 And then Bill Cassidy, Bill Cassidy is basically an independent moderate at this time.

00:20:08.000 Bill Cassidy, it's too bad.

00:20:10.000 I've known Bill Cassidy for a while and he's just become more and more liberal throughout the years.

00:20:16.000 He didn't start as a liberal, but he's just become this very moderate senator from Louisiana.

00:20:23.000 And isn't it interesting?

00:20:24.000 You look at Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, and Louisiana.

00:20:34.000 So let's just take those states: Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Louisiana.

00:20:39.000 Outside of North Carolina, Texas, South Carolina, Louisiana, I would imagine those three states, let's just take that.

00:20:44.000 Texas, South Carolina, and Louisiana.

00:20:47.000 Donald Trump, on average, probably won those states by eight to 10 points on average.

00:20:53.000 Now, mind you, this bill is probably going to get even more votes.

00:21:00.000 Mitt Romney, Murkowski are probably going to vote for it as well.

00:21:04.000 Murkowski is going to be interesting, though, actually.

00:21:07.000 I might stop myself.

00:21:08.000 She's in a very contentious primary right now against Tishbaca. 0.98

00:21:14.000 Oh, Romney signed on to it already.

00:21:16.000 Of course, he did.

00:21:17.000 But in Alaska, Alaska is a strange state in the sense that, not in a bad way, they're okay with more social benefits and social welfare.

00:21:26.000 In fact, they almost have a state-based equivalent of universal basic income, but do not touch Alaskans' guns.

00:21:32.000 Don't even talk about it.

00:21:34.000 Don't even mention it.

00:21:35.000 Don't even get in the room to negotiate it in Alaska.

00:21:39.000 So I'm going to read this again.

00:21:41.000 Chris Murphy says, these red flag laws will allow law enforcement to temporarily take dangerous weapons away who pose a danger to others or themselves.

00:21:51.000 So here's the steps.

00:21:52.000 It takes three steps.

00:21:54.000 Number one, which we've been living through the narrative, the government makes widespread accusations of who is dangerous.

00:22:05.000 Terrorists.

00:22:06.000 The Republican Party is dangerous.

00:22:09.000 Connor, can you get Brennan calling half the country terrorists?

00:22:13.000 That one clip, please, or insurrectionists, including libertarians.

00:22:17.000 You could find that clip.

00:22:18.000 I know we have it somewhere.

00:22:19.000 It just perfectly proves my point.

00:22:22.000 Step two is then pass a piece of legislation that then fits in this widespread criteria.

00:22:31.000 Then step three is then you enforce it.

00:22:37.000 So in Texas, Donald Trump won by six points.

00:22:40.000 Alaska, Donald Trump won by five points.

00:22:42.000 In Utah, Donald Trump won by 21 points, to give you an example.

00:22:48.000 What point does that prove?

00:22:50.000 The argument I'm making is that people in Alaska 10% is that the point that I'm making is that these politicians are so disconnected from their voters and almost defiantly so.

00:23:05.000 I mean, Senator Collins, I'm okay with, honestly, because remember, it takes 10 to break the filibuster.

00:23:12.000 Senator Collins has always been very honest how she's a moderate.

00:23:15.000 She's not a conservative.

00:23:17.000 She's going to D.C. to negotiate. 0.93

00:23:18.000 That's what she runs on.

00:23:20.000 That's what she wins on. 0.87

00:23:21.000 It helps Republicans get the majority.

00:23:23.000 That is not what Lindsey Graham runs on. 1.00

00:23:26.000 Lindsey Graham runs on being this hard-right conservative.

00:23:29.000 John Cornyn runs on being this hard-right conservative.

00:23:32.000 What I'm getting at is that you cannot have a functioning republic if politicians and decision makers are two totally different things when it comes to their voters.

00:23:44.000 In the defense of Susan Collins, she's always said she's a moderate.

00:23:48.000 To everyone in Maine, she's known as a moderate.

00:23:51.000 She campaigns as a moderate.

00:23:53.000 Her kind of major selling point is that she's a moderate in Maine. 0.99

00:23:57.000 I spend a lot of time in Maine.

00:23:58.000 I have.

00:23:59.000 I love Maine.

00:24:00.000 It is not Texas.

00:24:02.000 It isn't.

00:24:04.000 Okay.

00:24:05.000 But Tom Tillis, did Tom Tillis go to the people of North Carolina, especially in a Republican primary, and say, vote for me so I can put red flag laws in?

00:24:15.000 North Carolina, by the way, that has some of the largest military bases in the country.

00:24:21.000 And these red flag laws disproportionately impact veterans.

00:24:29.000 One part of this that I find to be fascinating.

00:24:35.000 Will this bill do everything we need to end our nation's gun violence epidemic?

00:24:39.000 No.

00:24:40.000 But it is real, meaningful progress.

00:24:43.000 And it breaks a 30-year log jam, demonstrating Republicans and Democrats can work together in a way that truly saves lives.

00:24:49.000 What Chris Murphy is admitting here at the end of his tweet is that this is just a start.

00:24:57.000 That finally he has broke the log jam towards gun confiscation and gun registration.

00:25:03.000 And instead of holding the line, now the wheels are in motion.

00:25:10.000 And I just, I just, I'm fascinated.

00:25:12.000 I would just love to talk to some of these people.

00:25:14.000 And honestly, I do get a chance to meet some of these senators.

00:25:18.000 And I'll be honest with you guys, I struggle with this because part of me wants to show them respect of the office, respect of the institution.

00:25:27.000 But now part of me is just like, I'm just going to be blunt and I just don't care anymore.

00:25:31.000 Those conversations usually don't go well.

00:25:33.000 I ran into a certain elected official recently in the House of Representatives.

00:25:39.000 And I just kind of blurted out basically impulsively.

00:25:42.000 I'm like, why did you send $40 billion to Ukraine?

00:25:44.000 Like, why did you do that?

00:25:45.000 And they were like so taken back that I wasn't just like kissing their shoes and asking for selfies.

00:25:51.000 I was like, why did you do that?

00:25:52.000 Like, we don't send you there to do that.

00:25:54.000 And their response was so terrible.

00:25:56.000 It was horrific.

00:25:58.000 So at least wherever it's worth, I'm kind of losing my patience with the respect of the institution.

00:26:08.000 Actually, you know, the institution, it's broken.

00:26:11.000 It's been broken for a while.

00:26:13.000 Democrats know how to play it.

00:26:15.000 So step one, the government makes widespread accusations to call everyone they don't like political or domestic terrorists.

00:26:21.000 Step two, they pass laws to be able to take guns away from people that fit that criteria.

00:26:26.000 Step three, they enforce it.

00:26:29.000 Somebody asked me a question the other day.

00:26:30.000 I was doing an event with James Lindsay, a phenomenal event, by the way, with the organization Sovereign Nations.

00:26:36.000 It was terrific, all about Marxism and the theology of Marxism.

00:26:39.000 It was terrific.

00:26:40.000 And somebody asked, they said, Charlie, what's the criteria you look at when it comes to supporting certain Republican politicians?

00:26:46.000 It's very simple.

00:26:47.000 One thing.

00:26:48.000 Can they answer the question of what time is it?

00:26:53.000 Not what time is it?

00:26:53.000 Is it 9.45 or 1045?

00:26:55.000 No.

00:26:55.000 What time is it metaphorically, meaning, do you know what moment our country is in?

00:27:01.000 Do you still think we're in the 1980s of a boom cycle and LGBT radicalism and CRT is nothing more than an academic fringe theory and a book you could barely find in a library in a far-off distant corner that you have to dust it off and read it and like, oh, wow, that's what critical race theory is.

00:27:15.000 No, what time is it?

00:27:18.000 And this is something that bothers me so much as these quote-unquote principled conservatives.

00:27:22.000 They act as if you must act the same regardless of what time it is.

00:27:25.000 Ask Churchill.

00:27:25.000 That is insane.

00:27:27.000 We have a picture of Great Oak Churchill here.

00:27:30.000 When the stakes are higher, it requires urgent action, immediate and courageous action.

00:27:35.000 This is the story of the West.

00:27:37.000 You do not defeat evil if you are not willing to ramp up the action and the stakes when it comes to things that are beautiful and good and true.

00:27:44.000 That is why Churchill is the greatest man to live in the 20th century.

00:27:47.000 And our Republican Party still thinks it's in the 1980s.

00:27:50.000 What time is it?

00:27:50.000 They can't tell you.

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00:29:19.000 Okay, I want to play some sound here.

00:29:22.000 Let's go to cut 16, Senator Chris Murphy, the ability to help states pass red flag laws.

00:29:27.000 And let me just say, I know I said this before, but I know a lot of people in our audience, we have a mixed opinion on the red flag issue.

00:29:35.000 I get it.

00:29:36.000 I totally disagree.

00:29:37.000 Disagreement is fun.

00:29:38.000 It's part of what makes a lively civilization.

00:29:41.000 If you all agreed with everything, that would be very Soviet. 0.95

00:29:44.000 I think a lot of people that want red flag laws mean well. 0.85

00:29:48.000 I think you want the right thing.

00:29:51.000 And I also think, and I will agree with this, there are people that I know, or at least I knew, that I was like, that person probably should not anytime soon be getting an AR-15.

00:30:04.000 I understand that.

00:30:06.000 People that had a track record of hurting themselves and people that quite honestly needed very significant mental intervention or mental health intervention.

00:30:17.000 So I understand it.

00:30:19.000 But the kind of through line that we are hitting here and that we have is a line that we have coined that actually a friend from Chicago helped me workshop about 10 years ago, which is good intentions do not result in good public policy.

00:30:31.000 Is that in life, good intentions can matter with how you make judgment calls, right?

00:30:38.000 Does that person mean well?

00:30:40.000 In politics, you have to, you have to judge the result, not the intention.

00:30:47.000 Well-intentioned people that do terrible, there's plenty of Democrats that quote unquote mean well, less and less, by the way.

00:30:55.000 A lot of these Democrats mean terribly.

00:30:57.000 I don't care about your intentions when it comes to this.

00:31:01.000 I care about whether or not the policy themselves is going to make us freer, make our country stronger, make us less likely to have another biomedical fascist episode. 0.53

00:31:12.000 These are things that I'm worried about.

00:31:13.000 Play cut 16.

00:31:15.000 The ability to help states pass red flag laws will stop thousands of suicides and homicides.

00:31:21.000 The closing of the boyfriend loophole means that domestic abusers, boyfriends that beat up their girlfriends won't be able to buy guns.

00:31:29.000 The protections for 21 and under buyers, that means that there's a pause for any 18 to 20 year old who's going into a store to try to buy an AR-15 like the Uvalde shooter and ability for the police department to intervene.

00:31:43.000 And then the question also is who can actually put down a flag?

00:31:47.000 One of our listeners in Custer, South Dakota on the Flag Radio Network said, Charlie, as a retired cop 30 years in Fargo, I could tell you red flag laws are terrible.

00:31:56.000 As they are written now, they give way too much power to people who may just have a grudge against someone.

00:32:02.000 Plus, there's no clear path for the gun owner to get the guns back.

00:32:06.000 Really, really bad idea, kind of like mail and voting.

00:32:09.000 So, for example, you know, we get death threats here on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:32:13.000 I get death threats, unfortunately, pretty regularly.

00:32:16.000 We also get people just wishing us to die, which is not exactly a death threat.

00:32:19.000 But I could imagine it's conceivable that left-wing activist groups would put forward massive amount of flags against me, against my family, against my coworkers.

00:32:30.000 How about if they put flags against everyone at Turning Point USA?

00:32:33.000 They would spam the flag system.

00:32:35.000 And that's not inconceivable.

00:32:36.000 They do that anyway.

00:32:39.000 They would flood the system.

00:32:42.000 It's a way to begin to disarm peaceful, law-abiding individuals.

00:32:49.000 And I just want to kind of just broaden this question, which is, and I would love your thoughts.

00:32:55.000 Email me, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:32:58.000 What is it about a moderate Republican that makes them so motivated to try to concede to the left?

00:33:09.000 And yes, it is the desire to be liked, but let me add an asterisk to that, just a little kind of amendment.

00:33:17.000 It is difficult to be pounded by the media every single day.

00:33:23.000 Eventually, the metaphorical media waterboarding that Republicans have to experience, where they get dunked under and they can't breathe, and they get dunked under, all metaphorical, of course.

00:33:35.000 Eventually they say, if I just concede on this one thing, will you just give us a nice article, please?

00:33:39.000 Will you just let up a little bit?

00:33:41.000 It really goes to show the power of the media and the narrative industrial complex.

00:33:47.000 We've talked about the military industrial complex, but the media industrial complex, I would argue, has far more power.

00:33:53.000 They're able to shape opinion, manipulate human behavior, and get even Republicans to betray their voters to pass wide overreaching gun confiscation legislation.

00:34:04.000 Again, some of the parts of the bill, not that controversial, fine.

00:34:08.000 But the part about red flag laws, be careful.

00:34:13.000 And in fact, these Republicans should be opposed by you, and you should contact every single one of them and say, wait a second, why didn't you run on this?

00:34:20.000 Why would you give more power to the government that calls us terrorists?

00:34:26.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:27.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com or support the Charlie Kirk Show at charliekirk.com slash support.

00:34:33.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:34:34.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - June 13, 2022

Republican Capitulation and the Case Against Red Flag Laws

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