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00:02:09.000Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
00:02:12.000I got to admit, you look like you've been running around quite a bit.
00:02:16.000I know we had to reschedule a couple of times, and while I can appreciate that, but it seems like you're a busy man these days.
00:02:23.000Yeah, doing two podcasts a day, one on Saturday, one on Sunday, trying to get the president re-elected and still run Turning Point USA and Turning Point Action and speaking.
00:02:32.000And so, but we're glad we made this work.
00:04:48.000And it sounds like you're very integrated with your work and your life.
00:04:52.000And there's not a bunch of different hats.
00:04:54.000Like a lot of men will talk about hats.
00:04:55.000I got to wear the family hat, the dad hat, the work hat.
00:04:58.000And I found in my own personal life that if I don't pretend like I'm wearing different hats, but instead say I'm one man, whether I'm at work, whether I'm with my family, whether I'm with my friends or in my own leisure activities, there's a lot of congruency and integration between the way I live my life.
00:05:13.000And that's much more efficient than trying to put on different hats and pretend like I'm somebody different in each circumstance.
00:05:20.000Yeah, and I have the opportunity to not have to be somebody different.
00:05:23.000I mean, one of the greatest gifts that God has given me is I say the same things publicly as I do privately because that's I'm in the business of speaking and I'm in the business of idea advancement.
00:05:35.000So people come to me and they say, Charlie, you know, I'm in a lawyer at this law firm, a partner.
00:05:40.000I own this business and I wish I could be you because you're able to say the same thing in a work setting that you're able to say in a private setting.
00:05:47.000And so that kind of, as you say, congruency, it's actually very liberating.
00:05:52.000I don't have to pretend to be somebody in a different environment.
00:05:55.000And also, I just have decided to completely disassociate myself with anyone that has any form of nastiness or vitriol just as a compulsory friendship.
00:06:31.000Like, what keeps you going in those hostile environments?
00:06:36.000Yeah, I don't find, I actually kind of enjoy the idea collision because I actually think it's good for our country to have different ideas be presented against each other.
00:06:46.000I don't love being screamed at by some of these apparatches.
00:06:48.000I mean, I'm not a sociopath, so it's not something I find enjoyment about.
00:06:53.000But I will say that I do think that it's beneficial when those conversations are occurring and happening, the millions of people that might be watching them in the future.
00:07:03.000So when I go to a campus and some lunatic is screaming in my ear and about how awful of a person I am and all these sorts of things, at least I can have some form of peace that if I'm filming it, somebody might learn something from this in the future.
00:07:19.000And so that kind of makes it in some ways worthwhile.
00:07:22.000However, I wish what I was saying wasn't so deemed disagreeable.
00:07:27.000I actually think what I'm saying is pretty normal stuff.
00:07:30.000And it's just the Overton window has changed so dramatically in our country that if you dare say there are only two genders or that there's a war on men or that we shouldn't judge people based on their skin color, you're all of a sudden deemed worthy of cancellation and outrage.
00:07:46.000And I obviously don't subscribe to that.
00:07:49.000So I think, again, it's a mission-driven thing.
00:07:52.000I actually really believe in this stuff, which is what drives me to continue to do it.
00:07:58.000You know, it's funny you talk about these ideas that I think, you know, 30, 40, 50 years ago weren't controversial.
00:08:10.000I believe men are men and women are women.
00:08:12.000I believe in traditional family values.
00:08:15.000I wouldn't have thought that that would be counterculture.
00:08:17.000I've never considered myself a rebel, but it seems to me that more now more than ever that I'm the rebellious one because I have all of these traditional values.
00:08:26.000And it's a very interesting thing that these types of things that we know with 100% certainty lead men and families and women and society to a better life have become controversial.
00:08:40.000And now all of a sudden, those of us that believe in taking responsibility for yourself and for your family, not blaming other people for your circumstances, applying yourself correctly, finding a good and moral aim, all of a sudden this is considered to be controversial.
00:08:58.000And I think it's actually really dangerous for our country to do that and for our civilization to do that.
00:09:03.000I mean, if you get, if you're now married and you are faithful, that person, with children, you are now the exception, not the rule.
00:09:22.000I haven't had a drink in a very, very long time.
00:09:25.000You know, I think that we, if you look at successful people, obviously don't do drugs or any of that.
00:09:31.000But for myself, I would not be able to do what I do if I were to be doing the substances that most of the people in this world do.
00:09:37.000And I think that there's a lesson here that a lot of people need to realize that there's a reason why they're trying to tell you to do alcohol all the time.
00:09:45.000There's a reason why they're trying to do that.
00:10:00.000But I don't think I biochemically would be able to do what I do if I indulge in the same form of casual drinking that most of the country has been the last six months in particular.
00:10:12.000I think what a lot of men do is they sedate themselves because, you know, the reality of their situations are difficult and demanding.
00:10:20.000And they learn from their parents and they learn from society because we have this entire generation of fatherless homes how to respond to difficult circumstances.
00:10:31.000You know, and all of us have difficult circumstances, whether it's the wake of COVID or, you know, we've lost a job or we deal with a family with a medical condition.
00:10:42.000It's such a travesty that so many men have not learned to address this in a positive manner and instead have learned that the way you deal with it is to sedate yourself.
00:10:53.000And that's what I see more and more of.
00:10:56.000Yeah, and nothing good happens after you're drunk.
00:10:58.000And that a lot of people that make it is it is truly, and I hate to use this term because it's overused, it's a gateway to other bad things.
00:11:05.000You will make other discussions, you have to say things you don't mean.
00:11:08.000You might hurt somebody you don't mean to hurt, both physically or otherwise.
00:11:13.000And then it also makes you less responsible, more likely to fall into a pattern of behavior that you're not going to be able to take responsibility for your actions.
00:11:22.000And again, I'm not morally against it.
00:11:24.000I'm not trying to make anyone feel worse if they're doing that thing.
00:11:28.000I'm just saying it actually will make you in the long term a much unhappier, much more unhappy and less likely to be able to take the meaningful type of responsibility you need to in your life to be able to succeed.
00:11:42.000Yeah, I like this because I think what we hear a lot from, you know, the quote-unquote self-help gurus is: here's what you need to do: have a schedule, work a plan, be disciplined, and all the things that you should do.
00:11:54.000But we don't hear from those of us who tell us, okay, well, here's what you need to eliminate from your life: eliminate the sedation, eliminate the toxicity, eliminate those friends who aren't serving you so you can free up a path to be able to pursue, like you talked about, your mission, whatever it is for you.
00:13:25.000All I know is that I have known nothing my entire life other than being hyperactive and apps.
00:13:31.000And there's one, there's a really important thing, though.
00:13:34.000Some of these people will go to some of these conferences that you just mentioned and they'll be fired up and they will start putting in those long hours.
00:13:40.000But the minute that any sort of adversity hits them, it's brittle and they shatter.
00:13:45.000And so it's not just being able to put in the long hours and work till 11 p.m. every single night and wake up at 6 a.m. and work Saturdays and work Sundays and do not drink and don't do drugs and stop watching mindless television and get rid of your video games, all that sort of stuff, right?
00:14:03.000Again, if you're able to do a great life with those things, terrific.
00:14:07.000I'm just telling you what works for me, right?
00:14:09.000And so I don't mean this in a way where I'm trying to make someone feel bad or you're a bad person.
00:14:13.000I'm going to keep saying that because sometimes people read into it too much.
00:14:17.000I think our listeners here are a little bit more aware than that, where they're willing to take these in context.
00:14:26.000I've got these messages where people say, well, you know, people say, well, Charlie, do you think I'm a bad person because I have a beer once a week?
00:14:37.000And so, but to go to go a step further and a level deeper on this, though, if we kind of look at what, so people use self-help exercise and they have no capacity to withstand suffering.
00:14:50.000The hardest thing to do is to keep going when you really come across something that requires perseverance, when you have someone betray you, when you have someone come after you that wants to destroy your career, when you have a contract fall through, when you have a project that doesn't go the way you wanted it to, when you get a very angrily worded email from a donor in our world, you know, in our nonprofit world, that's who we raise money from.
00:17:48.000But it would be a shame if I saw my young boys grow into adult age without learning how to mature.
00:17:56.000The question I have is: how do we begin to foster this in a generation of young boys and girls who are growing up without fathers?
00:18:08.000Yeah, it's really hard because then the women have no aim to go marry and the men have no aim to go to basically harmonize with or try to embody, right?
00:18:19.000So women need strong fathers because they want a role model to be able to eventually go marry somebody like that.
00:18:26.000And then men, and that's not the only reason, by the way.
00:18:29.000That's just a very, that's one of the most important reasons.
00:18:32.000And then a man needs, a young boy needs a male father figure so he knows what to aspire to, so he knows what to try to become.
00:18:41.000And when you break that down, your civilization will start to fall apart.
00:18:45.000But it's also, I see two parent households where the roles are reversed, where the female has become the male and the man has become the woman.
00:18:55.000And it is masculine women and feminine men.
00:18:59.000And you kind of hear the stereotype on some comedy shows and stuff, but it's actually really true, which is the kind of metropolitan beta male, where if you looked hard, you couldn't find an ounce of testosterone in some of these men.
00:19:12.000And they take responsibility for nothing.
00:19:14.000And they've almost kind of turned themselves into this androgynous, very unclear form of a once man, now newly found woman.
00:19:25.000And that's a very dangerous thing for a country and for a civilization.
00:20:02.000And that's how a lot of young boys are.
00:20:03.000But my parents, to their credit, despite the pill pushers and people trying to intersect themselves, said, We are not putting our kid on medication.
00:20:13.000That was the best thing they could have done for me.
00:20:15.000Whereas now, someone like me, you know what should worry everyone?
00:20:19.000There are thousands of people like Charlie Kirk that are being medicated right now because parents are not holding the line against the over-medication push in our country.
00:20:30.000And I would say, Charlie, on that is: I know you're a big fan of making sure we use the right verbiage.
00:20:59.000Let's strip away a little bit of that passion by popping you full of pills so that you'll conform and toe the line and do what you're supposed to be doing.
00:21:09.000And look, if someone has a legitimate medical condition, unrelated to your capacity and not focus, but what happens is these entire school systems have been feminized.
00:21:18.000It's designed for women by women to be taught by women and for women.
00:21:29.000They need to be involved in the learning process.
00:21:32.000That's why recess is important for young boys and not as important for young women.
00:21:36.000And so young women are thriving in our country.
00:21:39.000And in fact, I would make the argument that every metric that they're thriving at is not, it's actually in some ways at the expense at times of men.
00:21:48.000And that I'm not saying that women are the problem, but the fact when 60% of college graduates are now women, there's no equilibrium there.
00:21:57.000And that comes at some expense because the school system has been so hyper-feminized, where young women are more than willing to sit and go through an entire class without moving.
00:22:09.000A fourth grader, a young boy, forget it.
00:22:11.000That's not what for two hours, that's asking a lot out of a young boy.
00:22:15.000I mean, I can't even know, I can't even do that as an almost 40-year-old man at this point.
00:22:36.000We're hyper-feminizing their learning environment.
00:22:39.000And also, the way that we educate them just to the curriculum is absolute garbage.
00:22:43.000Young men from a very young boys from a young age are being taught that men are the enemy and women are good and you must make yourself more feminine in nature.
00:24:02.000This is why football is such an important part of our country and they're trying to destroy that too.
00:24:05.000I don't think football is for everyone, but it was important for me.
00:24:08.000I could tell you in my life, when I was an eighth grader, football really made me grow up very quickly.
00:24:14.000Saying yes, sir, no, sir, to a strong male figure that made you be on the line at the exact time, being able to run wind sprints, hierarchy, order, discipline.
00:24:22.000For me, football really got me in the line.
00:24:25.000For all that distracted energy that I had in the classroom, football was, I had meaning.
00:25:50.000And so what happens without that clear male, masculine, authoritative figure is they begin to take it upon themselves.
00:25:58.000And this is, I think, a big reason why we see the rioting and the vandalism and the violence and the looting, because these young men, these boys, regardless of what age they are, have never learned to toe the line.
00:26:12.000I had a football coach who got on my face.
00:26:14.000I remember when I went to basic training, I saw the guys that I went to basic training with.
00:26:19.000I could tell you, just in the first 24 hours, who was accustomed to having another grown man up in their face yelling at them and who was never accustomed to that.
00:26:32.000I could tell because they broke within a 24-hour timeframe versus the men who played sports, who had dads in their lives, were unbreakable, were unshatterable at that point.
00:27:06.000The vast majority of the coaches I had, they pushed me to the level to make me better.
00:27:11.000When they screamed and yelled at me, it wasn't that I was scared.
00:27:14.000It was they wanted you to get to that next level.
00:27:17.000They wanted you to become a stronger person.
00:27:18.000They expected you to take responsibility for yourself.
00:27:21.000And so what the feminists have done is they say all of that moral discipline, all of that male involvement, all of it is wrong because of the few examples of abuse.
00:27:32.000Therefore, we must feminize everything.
00:29:18.000And I think that critique is a valid one by the people that are saying, I think a critique either internally or externally, that's a valid one.
00:29:25.000What I think the prescription to try to fix it is to abolish all hierarchies of male pouring into young people is a disaster.
00:29:36.000But anyway, the same can be said, though, for terrorizing women, where women can terrorize other women and where teachers or whatever, older sisters to younger sisters, girlfriends to girlfriends, or for women teachers to male students.
00:29:53.000So it's not exclusively elusively this idea.
00:29:56.000The emotional manipulation that I've seen in some women, just in hearing conversations with men, is absolutely insane.
00:30:02.000And frankly, society has bought into that generally.
00:30:05.000You know, you look at, for example, the family court system and this level of emotional manipulation from women to ostracize men from their children, for example, is a real threat, not only to those men and their children, but to society in general.
00:30:22.000And I'm not putting it all on them, but just as guilty of emotional manipulation as any man could be.
00:30:28.000Yeah, and the idea that one sex or one gender has a monopoly on the manipulation exercise is foolish and it doesn't look at any sort of reality or empirical experience at all.
00:31:01.000These things are designed and programmed to have you be slaves to the Silicon Valley tech oligarchs.
00:31:08.000They are designed to be biochemically addictive, no different than big tobacco.
00:31:12.000They've admitted this in congressional testimonies, that they have created these devices to be addictive for young people.
00:31:17.000If you're a parent out there, take the phone away from your kid if they are not 16 years old and go buy them a jitterbug, which is just a phone that they can call you in a time of emergency.
00:31:42.000They're synced to our data plan or whatever.
00:31:45.000And they can call me, my wife, and maybe two or three other people.
00:31:48.000And there's a few little minor games, but all of the games on there are centered around physical activities.
00:31:53.000So it's like, how many jumps can you do in 60 seconds, right?
00:31:56.000But outside of that, no access to anything else because I just think there is a larger plan at play here to stray or to have our children stray away from their mothers and their fathers.
00:32:12.000And so here's what it seems to be working.
00:32:23.000When we have seen a 200% increase in suicide for pre-teen women since the smartphone mobile age, we have seen a dramatic increase in teenage suicides, self-harm, hospitalizations, cocaine, alcohol usage, glorification, glorification of the worst aspects of society, the objectification of women.
00:33:27.000As long as they have the structure, the guidance, the discipline, and everything that goes behind it, it's not, yes, technically it is a weapon, but also it's known as a tool.
00:33:37.000But you have to know how to use the tool effectively.
00:33:40.000And I agree with that with smartphones, internet, et cetera, et cetera, that it's only as effective as you use it.
00:33:46.000And our children are not mature enough to be able to use this effectively.
00:33:50.000No, but I just want to reinforce the point, though.
00:33:52.000And you might have seen the documentary, a Netflix Social Dilemma.
00:34:04.000These social media platforms are way more dangerous than you realize.
00:34:08.000They have algorithms that manipulate, monitor screen time, listen to your conversations, and track 12, 13, and 14-year-olds' needs, wants, interests, desires, anxieties in a very, very manipulative way.
00:34:20.000And they are social programming our children.
00:34:33.000And that's the type of level that we have to have at this because I'm telling you that we are creating a more anxious, depressed, and suicidal generation because of these devices.
00:34:49.000I see my kids as friends who are involved in these things that, you know, are seemingly, you know, innocuous or, you know, not that dangerous.
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00:36:54.000So, I mean, we've been given this incredible from, boy, from people who are not grateful that they live in this country.
00:37:03.000I mean, we have a counterinsurgency ideologically and culturally that quite honestly have a completely different vision for America.
00:37:11.000And I'm trying to save it from, I hate to be this political about it.
00:37:16.000I'm trying to save it from the bitterness and ingratitude of the left.
00:37:20.000I'm trying to save it from people that, quite honestly, they're angry that they live in America, not thankful that they live here.
00:37:27.000And I also believe very firmly that a country's ability or inability to communicate our founding values, our core values, and morals to young people, that will basically predict or be the judge of whether or not your country will continue to exist.
00:37:46.000And we have things so good in this country.
00:37:52.000It's so easy that we have no idea how easy this thing can all crumble.
00:37:58.000And I deal with the most radical voices on the left.
00:38:02.000I see their ideas being mainstreamed and platformed on a daily basis, where police departments are being defunded in Minneapolis and murder rates are up 40%, where pedophilia is being decriminalized in California, where Section 145 decriminalizes pedophilia, where I see cuties on Netflix.
00:38:20.000If this is not a fire alarm, for those of us that just believe in decency and believe in normal American values, I'm obviously a conservative and I'm not unafraid to talk about it.
00:38:30.000However, if you're not even political, this should concern you because there's a disintegration happening in front of our very eyes.
00:38:37.000And so, I mean, I hate to put it in those terms, you know, save the country, but that's basically what I try to do.
00:38:43.000Yeah, I don't think that's off, you know, and I don't think you need to hate putting it in those terms because, you know, I believe a lot of people.
00:38:50.000I just don't want to make myself seem like I'm an Avenger character or something, but yeah, it's like I am trying to save the country.
00:38:55.000I mean, let's be honest, you know, a lot of us are in the industry, not only of informing, but entertaining too.
00:39:00.000And so, you know, maybe we use some of that hyperbolic language, but I believe when you say something that you don't mean it to be inflammatory, you don't mean it to grandize.
00:39:13.000You're doing it because you genuinely believe it.
00:39:18.000Look, there's going to be people who don't agree with me or you.
00:39:20.000I know you're a polarizing figure, but at least there's some integrity here.
00:39:24.000Now, you don't try to be, but just through the nature of society, you are, right?
00:39:29.000And I think anytime you find somebody who's convicted so strongly as you are, there's going to be people who are strongly convicted and the exact opposite.
00:39:42.000Well, my question is, why the hostility?
00:39:45.000You know, like, now look, I happen to agree with a lot of what you have to say, probably 99% of what you say.
00:39:51.000But let's take the 1%, or even if it was more, I can't imagine myself being so hostile towards you or anybody else that, you know, I'd wish you violence or death or any catastrophe to fall upon you.
00:40:03.000But it seems to me that not only are we polarized, we wish violence on people.
00:40:08.000I don't understand where this is stemming from.
00:40:13.000I mean, it's part of a belief that has grown from postmodernism in our country where they believe dialogue and discussion is dangerous and not just dangerous.
00:40:28.000We as human beings are the speaking beings.
00:40:31.000So Aristotle, of course, the student of Plato, who is the student of Socrates, the ancient classics that built ancient Rome, kind of the birthplace of a lot of the ideas that we discuss here in the West.
00:40:43.000Aristotle famously said, what makes us different than any other creature on the planet is we can talk.
00:40:53.000One way is through talking and speaking, convincing, reasoning, getting together in a room and coming together and saying, this is a bad idea.
00:41:38.000They believe that if they come talk to me, they're validating a dialogue that will only make the country less likely from being made in their image.
00:41:48.000So I want to make the differentiation between leftists and liberals.
00:42:00.000I was going to say, Charlie, it's funny you say this because I know as we release this conversation between each other, I'm going to get a lot of messages like, I can't believe you give him a platform.
00:42:28.000I mean, just to reinforce it, I go to a college campus.
00:42:31.000I sit down there for three hours and anyone can come up to me with their own camera and film me and make me look like an idiot at any time.
00:43:11.000Because again, you read their literature, read Michelle Foucault, you read Jacques Derrida, you read Herbert Makusa, you read the Frankfurt School literature.
00:44:20.000You know, I mean, I think about it, for example, when people say, Oh, Ryan, you're in an echo chamber.
00:44:24.000And yeah, I actually agree with that to some to some degree because those who view things differently than me, and I'm sure you're experiencing this as well, like you just said, they won't talk to you, right?
00:44:37.000And so, like, I'll have you on, and guys will say, Well, why don't you have somebody from the left on?
00:45:58.000Back in the 80s and 90s, a big fear from the left is they would say, We can't give power to all those Christians because they're going to be fundamentalists and they're going to come after us.
00:47:35.000And so when you say I'm convinced, you're right.
00:47:38.000I've been fighting these people for quite some time.
00:47:41.000Yeah, I think I saw, it must have been a couple of years ago, you and Judith Owens, if I believe.
00:47:47.000Yeah, were you in a restaurant or you were in a break?
00:47:49.000Yeah, we were in a breakfast together in Philadelphia.
00:47:51.000Yeah, the Green Eggs Cafe, minding her own business, and Antifa came mobilized, came into the restaurant, ran us out of the restaurant, threw objects at us.
00:48:00.000Police had to come, you know, and all white liberal, white, white Antifa liberals screaming at a black conservative, saying that she's not black.
00:48:16.000You know, I think a lot of this is, you know, the powers that would be trying to light a fire a little bit and to instigate.
00:48:27.000And you see these type of conversations.
00:48:28.000I'm really curious about your take on race just in society in general as it is currently.
00:48:35.000Yeah, I think we're actually a lot less racist and more decent to each other than BLM Incorporated and any of the activist media would ever lead you to believe.
00:48:42.000In fact, I'll go to say that we're the least racist, most accepting country ever to exist in the history of the world, ever.
00:48:49.000And let me just go back by saying I grew up in an America in 2008 to 2012.
00:48:54.000I went to high school in the suburbs of Chicago, a 53% English as a second language high school.
00:48:59.000So I went, I was, as a white person, I was a minority as a white person in my high school, Wheeling High School.
00:49:58.000You mean that if you look at the data, a black child married to, a black child who is raised by a mother and father who stay loyally married is far more likely to succeed than a white kid that is raised by a single mother.
00:51:18.000In fact, I could read an article from Ozzy.com, Ozzy.com, which is a left-wing publication generally.
00:51:25.000They're partners with Vox and many others, where they say we need more Nigerian immigrants in America because they succeed at such high rates.
00:51:33.000So either Aussie, the far left-wing publication, either they hate Nigerian immigrants because they want them to come to a systemically racist country, or they actually might be looking at the same data that I am, which is that we're not systemically racist.
00:51:46.000Why do Nigerians do so well in this country?
00:51:49.000In the Nigerian culture, family is everything, everything.
00:51:53.000In Nigeria, they have the highest birth rates of any country in Africa.
00:51:56.000They're the most populated country in Africa.
00:51:58.000The Nigerian culture, for whatever reason, and there's plenty of good books written on this, is a country and a culture of monogamous marriage, of intergenerational families supporting and living with each other, of working hard, of valuing education.
00:52:13.000So if Nigerians can do so well in this country with coming with nothing and entering with nothing, and these are liberal publications that are saying this, by the way, Bloomberg, Ozzy, Vox, you name it.
00:52:28.000They do better than white Americans in our country.
00:52:30.000Maybe the country's not rigged for just a skin color.
00:52:33.000Maybe the country's set up to reward choices.
00:52:36.000And so I just, I am really exhausted looking and viewing it.
00:52:43.000Personal Pilot do not understand the landscape.
00:52:46.000They don't understand the statistics or data, but they're incredibly driven emotively by a couple issues in the news that they're supposed to be outraged about, even though they know nothing about it, like the Breonna Taylor case, which is ridiculous.
00:53:00.000Happy to dive into that if you want to, where you're told to be mad about something when the data does not reflect any bit at all whatsoever.
00:53:08.000Well, you know, the hard part is, is that most of us, and look, I've fallen prey to this as well.
00:53:16.000And so you look at these titles and it's like, oh, I got everything I need.
00:53:20.000Well, no, you actually don't because not only is there not more information buried in the article, there's more information that goes on behind the scenes that is not even in the article.
00:53:30.000Yeah, I mean, let me tell you something we should be worried about in our country right now.
00:53:33.000We're on pace to have 500,000 less children next year than this year.
00:53:37.000That warrants a nationwide conversation.
00:53:39.000Let me tell you a real crisis in our country.
00:53:41.000It's not police officers killing black people, okay?
00:53:44.000That happens less likely than you are to be struck by lightning, just so you understand, statistically.
00:53:49.000A real crisis, one in four young people have contemplated suicide in the last 90 days, according to CDC.
00:53:55.000When no real crisis, antidepressants are now the most prescribed medication for the people under the age of 30.
00:54:00.000Alcoholism, cocaine, self-harm, hospitalizations, they're all up.
00:54:05.000100,000 small businesses have gone under since March.
00:54:09.000So the media, in their hypnotic ways, the simulation, as I like to call it, they're telling you to believe the sequence of lies.
00:54:18.000And this is propagated by LeBron James and by the National Basketball Association and the National Football League and our major corporations that we're systemically racist.
00:55:48.000I've talked with people who are very, very concerned about bringing kids into the world in this environment.
00:55:54.000And I can't personally think of a better way to reverse the trend of society than to bring an army of young men and women who are raised in righteousness into this world to reverse the trends that we're seeing in society right now.
00:57:26.000You know, one of the things I'm seeing, and I think this is very deliberate and intentional, is a dismantling not only of the family unit, but also of the church.
00:57:34.000And I think the church, in a lot of ways, has replaced the family unit.
00:57:37.000That's where people gain a lot of their values from and understand how we operate successfully in society.
00:57:44.000You know, and I've heard people that you're connected with talk about how culture precedes politics, right?
00:57:51.000And this is exactly what we're talking about: a culture of family, a culture of values through the church, whether that's the LDS church or the Catholic church or some denomination of Christianity.
00:58:01.000This is where our values are derived from, and it's being dismantled right before our eyes.
00:58:06.000And the church is now playing in a lot of different churches.
00:58:10.000And obvious, you know, exceptions are my pastor, Rob McCoy, and many others that do such a great job, you know, communicating these values.
00:58:17.000Is now a lot of them are complicit in these disintegrationist movements of our country.
00:58:22.000So, um, well, I think we bought into the notion as a Christian that somehow I don't think it would be this this deliberate, but almost that we're supposed to be weak as opposed to meek.
00:58:35.000And that's actually the reason I reached out to you.
00:58:37.000I've had you on my radar for a long time because I followed what you're doing.
00:58:40.000And I listened to the conversation last week or a couple of weeks ago that you had with Pastor Rob.
00:58:44.000And I thought, man, I really got to pull the trigger on this and get Charlie on the podcast.
00:58:52.000And I love to hear not only from you, but from Pastor Rob, strong Christian men who are unafraid to share your perception of the way that we can make this society better.
00:59:06.000And it seems like there's a lot of Christians out there who are afraid to do it.
00:59:10.000And it's a question of how do you want yourself to be governed?
00:59:13.000It's a question of civil society is not a place where Christians should compartmentalize our worldview.
00:59:21.000And so in California, when they're passing SB 145, which decriminalizes pedophilia, and the American church is generally silent on that, we'll be judged for that.
00:59:30.000Oh, my goodness, will we be judged for that?
00:59:33.000And so, you know, I can go through a variety of different reasons and disappointments and struggles with that, but the American church needs to rise up in huge numbers right now.
00:59:41.000And if your pastor still has your church closed or is bowing to BLM Incorporated or this lie of systemic racism or critical race theory, leave that church.
00:59:49.000Do it respectfully and do it lovingly.
00:59:52.000It is not worthy your time or your tithes.
00:59:55.000I actually saw a video just before you and I hopped on the call of, he must have been a pastor of a church and he was outside in what looked like a parking lot and there was circles spray painted in the parking lot and they were distanced.
01:00:19.000Okay, because apparently because he had, I don't know, no mask on or because he congregated all these people or whatever, whatever the reason was.
01:00:28.000And look, this is, they're going to keep, and by the way, BLM Incorporated can march through the streets and destroy and savage our cities and act like thugs and criminals.
01:01:59.000Obviously, you're an intelligent human being.
01:02:01.000How do you balance being well researched, but then also taking so much time to be able to articulate and communicate that with the public?
01:02:10.000Because sometimes it seems like those are at odds with each other.
01:02:13.000I can either research or I can communicate.
01:02:15.000How do you balance that out for yourself?
01:02:17.000Yeah, every night I turn off my phone and I do at least an hour and a half to two hours of reading and research, watching lectures, reading great books, listening, you know, reading good articles and thoughtful scholarship.
01:02:28.000And then I try to bring that over into the next day.
01:02:31.000And so just was working through Aristotle recently, which is where I kind of derived some of my comments today, where I found what he taught, taught, you know, spoke about speaking, kind of funny, so important.
01:02:41.000And so I tell everyone, read more and speak less.