Dr. Larry Arden sits down exclusively with our friends in San Diego. We talk about President Trump, artificial intelligence, education, and what we can do about it. Dr. Arden brings ancient wisdom to modern problems and I really encourage you to listen to this conversation intently and text it to your friends.
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00:01:48.000I want to continue a conversation you and I are having backstage about artificial intelligence.
00:01:54.000And you said something important where you said that in the next year or two, people are going to really realize the power of this stuff and its societal and civilizational implications.
00:04:15.000So the first question, an urgent question at Hillsdale College is, what's this going to mean for young people?
00:04:21.000And next year, we're going to finalize our plans about that.
00:04:26.000And what they are is that they're going to have to sit for two weeks, twice in their four years, with a pen and a paper, And write out everything they know.
00:04:41.000And in other words, they still have to suffer.
00:08:29.000And if I meet him again, I'm going to tell them the Cybertruck is great, and an easy life is not the purpose of life, and you show that in your life, but you ought not to say that to others.
00:08:44.000Sorry, only to interject, the problem then of education and the society is you're right.
00:08:50.000Things are going to become too easy, and I can see this sometimes when I go to these campuses, and a student will come up and read their phone when they want to debate me.
00:09:50.000If they fall down, then you should pick them up or, in my particular case, get somebody nicer than I to do it.
00:09:58.000Yeah, and you know, I can tell you, because I have the closest experience, probably more than anybody alive, with highly motivated 18 to 21-year-olds.
00:10:10.000And you can do anything with them, if they have agreed in advance, and if they think you love them.
00:10:18.000And if either of those conditions is not met, there's a complete rebellion immediately.
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00:14:30.000Every serious person has that in them, right?
00:14:35.000And, you know, like when J.D. Vance, I've never met J.D. Vance, but Charlie knows him, and I was pulling for him to be the Veep last time because he sort of has a vogue going on in Hillsdale among all the hard men and women who run the place.
00:14:58.000He goes over to Europe, and he gives two extremely unsettling speeches.
00:15:04.000And the one that was simply unsettling was about AI.
00:15:22.000The more unsettling was about defense, because what they thought he was going to do was ask them to get their defense budgets up, and he did do that for about three minutes.
00:15:34.000Offended and frightened them so that they could hardly sit still in the room by saying, it's not clear we stand for the same thing anymore because you're not respecting the will of the people you govern.
00:15:49.000Well, that's a fundamental issue, right?
00:15:53.000And that's, I mean, look, don't mistake, we're in the middle of a struggle for the preservation of human freedom.
00:17:06.000And don't you know that to do that you have to work?
00:17:10.000And if you don't know that, then you won't be a better person tomorrow, and tomorrow will be disappointment, and the day after, and the day after.
00:17:18.000Well, young are doing that really fast, so we have to challenge people to produce.
00:17:27.000There is a model, I think, operating that way, I know too.
00:17:33.000You should come visit Hillsdale College.
00:18:04.000See, I am deeply concerned for our country, and I have been for 50 years, because I see that it's a house divided, and I just happen to have got the education to understand that, think it's true.
00:18:23.000Well, if I start noticing that a bunch of tank gazillionaires are going MAGA, I think that's a...
00:18:49.000And here's the phenomenon, and it's very important.
00:18:54.000If I'm right, and I claim that I am, the philosophers and saints are the highest and statesmen are the next and the builders are the third.
00:22:59.000And our living well consists in facing them well.
00:23:06.000With the sense of God, because God is the perfect being, implied by any perfection we have above the animal, the other animals, and also implied by our imperfections.
00:23:20.000So, if you're not doing that, You're not living well.
00:26:29.000Well, so in your classical philosophy, you learn that if you want to understand any being, animate or inanimate, you have to look to the four things that cause it.
00:26:41.000Because there are four things that cause every being to be a being.
00:26:44.000And those four things are the material cause.
00:30:49.000The question today is, shall we be governed by our consent and toward our rights, or are we subjects of an engineering project to remake the society?
00:31:17.000And it's like another sign that we're in a time of a revolutionary time is that these questions come up that are as long as there's been law.
00:31:31.000So the habeas corpus of Latin present the body.
00:31:34.000And the basic structure of the Constitution is provided by there being three separate branches.
00:31:40.000And in the Declaration of Independence, by the way, God appears four times.
00:31:45.000Once is each branch, and one is the creator, the founder.
00:31:48.000And the lesson of the Declaration is only in the hands of God would you combine all those branches.
00:31:54.000So habeas corpus means if an executive reaches out his hand, grabs you by the neck, and says, you've got to do what I say, he's got to haul you in front of a judge who's independent of him to make the judgment in your particular case.
00:32:09.000Fundamental to constitutional law and English common law.
00:32:15.000Well, somebody lets 10 million or 12 million of them in here and gives themselves security cards, a lot of them, and got a plot to let them vote and puts them on benefits, and now you can only get them out one at a time?
00:32:29.000And the particular law that Trump has appealed to, the Alien Enemies Act, It was passed in 1798, one of four laws called the Alien and Sedition Acts, and those laws destroyed, and it's the only one of the other three had sunsets on them, but this one didn't and has never been repealed.
00:32:55.000But that's the law that John Adams, president, fostered when Congress passed.
00:33:01.000Alexander Hamilton, secretary of treasury, resisted it.
00:33:06.000And in 1800, Thomas Jefferson and James Madison had resisted it and started their own political party, and it destroyed the Federalist Party.
00:33:14.000They founded the country, and then they never won another election.
00:33:19.000And that means this is a fundamental fight.
00:33:38.000So the first thing is, these district judges issuing nationwide injunctions that stop federal policy, that hardly happened at all before 1960.
00:33:49.000It's unprecedented to be unbelievable.
00:33:52.000Yeah, and since the 60s, and every decade since the 60s, there's been more of it, but never so much as in the last three years.
00:34:42.000I mean, because you can't have consent of the governed.
00:34:44.000You don't have a country at that point.
00:34:45.000Unless you have a people, right, who are defined, and they're in control of who joins them.
00:34:53.000What does a mechanic and auto shop owner in Georgia, a taco restaurant operator in Arizona, and a life-saving medical innovator in Tennessee have in common?
00:35:01.000They're all small business owners, and they're all thriving on TikTok.
00:35:05.000Across the U.S., over 7.5 million businesses, from family-owned shops to entrepreneurs, are using TikTok to compete and grow.
00:35:12.000We use TikTok all the time on the Charlie Kirk show.
00:35:14.000In fact, 74% of businesses on TikTok say TikTok has allowed them to scale their operations, increasing sales and expanding to new locations.
00:36:16.000And in Article 3, what it says is, the judicial power shall be vested in a Supreme Court and such subordinate courts as the Congress may create.
00:36:29.000And then it says that the jurisdiction, the original jurisdiction of the Supreme Court shall be, and there's a list of things, about four things, And such appellate jurisdiction as the Congress shall define.
00:36:47.000And that means they have complete power over that.
00:36:52.000And why they don't, it's a mystery to me.
00:36:57.000And just to understand that in different words, the injunction is usually just for the district that the offense occurs in, if there will be an injunction at all.
00:37:44.000If Abrego Garcia gets in front of a judge and the judge says, bring him home, well, first of all, that's demanding a positive action by the President of the United States, and there's a limit on how much of that they can do.
00:38:51.000So the Republican Party is born with a plan, and it cracked the code.
00:38:59.000In the slavery crisis, because in the Constitution, the federal government has no power to interfere with slavery in the states where it exists, and ought not to have that power, by the way, because local things being local is fundamental to the constitutional system.
00:39:14.000And so what are we going to do about it?
00:40:19.000That's one of the causes of the American Revolution, by the way.
00:40:22.000The king drew a line west of the Appalachian and said you can't have any land beyond it.
00:40:26.000That's one of the reasons we had the American Revolution.
00:40:29.000So, and slavery is not the kind of thing where, you know, it turns out that although the claim was by the Confederacy, the slaves like their servitude, they were always trying to get away.
00:40:45.000And that meant you had to have a police state to keep them.
00:40:49.000The Alabama Slave Code is in our Constitution reader, and it provides that every free white male...
00:40:55.000Slaveholder or no has to ride posse one night a month looking for runaways.
00:41:01.000So people start rushing to Kansas and the pro-slave guys start taking their slaves and they take guns and they're shooting people and they put in a phony constitution to make it a slave state and that stunk to high heaven so they had to repeal it.
00:41:17.000So now what the Republican Party did was it figured out That we don't have power over slavery in the states where it exists, but we have municipal authority in the federal territories, which at that time was most of the Union, and we will forbid slavery from going there altogether.
00:41:45.000I will tell you that I'm proud that the two people who wrote that first are named Edmund Fairfield and Austin Blair.
00:41:54.000Later, the Civil War governor and lieutenant governor of Michigan, members of the Hillsdale College faculty.
00:42:11.000But then, the Supreme Court of the United States ruled five to four, led by a man named Roger Taney, the most notorious of all our Supreme Court justices, He was Chief Justice, that the federal government does not have power to do that.
00:42:30.000And that's rather parallel to the situation today, because the Republican Party was born to do a thing, and a court says that strips the heart out of your platform.
00:42:40.000And today, Donald Trump gets elected, saying, we're going to control the border, and we're going to send those people home.
00:42:53.000So how do we resolve it without a war?
00:42:55.000The answer is, you read, because it turns out to be handy that Abraham Lincoln addressed this at length and brilliantly in a series of speeches, especially the one on the Dred Scott decision.
00:43:10.000And what he said was, it's a divided court.
00:43:16.000The decision was that Dred Scott, who'd been taken into a free state, remains a slave.
00:43:22.000And Lincoln said, Dred Scott remains a slave.
00:43:26.000The highest court in the land has said so.
00:43:51.000An important mugger guy whom I admire, I won't say who it was, said the other day, is an example to Donald Trump that Lincoln shredded the Constitution.
00:44:10.000And so, Donald Trump should have a powerful constitutional argument why, in the executive authority, He can continue, maybe under this Alien Enemies Act.
00:44:27.000And remember, we all need here the rule of law.
00:44:34.000I don't want Joe Biden, you know, I mean, Lord, it makes me mad.
00:44:39.000Congress is talking about taxing college endowments.
00:44:43.000Well, first of all, that's a transfer of wealth from private resources into the public, and that's the wrong direction.
00:44:48.000And second of all, I don't want them taxing mine.
00:44:51.000And I'm the only one that doesn't take the money from the government that has enough endowment to pay the tax right now, and they're talking about increasing it.
00:45:13.000So the point is, however, I don't want Joe Biden or Kamala Harris or whatever the next one is with the power to take my tax exemption or to tax my endowment.
00:45:26.000We all need the rule of law, and I support Donald Trump because I believe he is standing up for that, and he should be double sure to make that claim all the time.
00:45:40.000Well, he's very resolute in using the executive power.