Candace Owens joins Charlie Kirk on The Charlie Kirk Show to talk about her new book, Pronouns are Z-Zerzim, and why she thinks the FBI should be required to state their pronouns.
00:00:54.000We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:29.000If like you're in class or if you're-class or just some sort of like mandatory environment.
00:01:33.000I probably would drop the course because if you have a professor that's supposed to be teaching you that's asking you something that's that stupid, you're probably not going to get much out of the semester.
00:01:41.000You see the FBI Twitter file where the FBI agent Elvis Chan had his pronouns in the middle of it.
00:01:58.000People that are adversaries of the United States have to be sitting back and laughing, going this country maybe has 10 more years when they, when the FBI starts putting pronouns in their bios and emails like pretending to be important, we're not in a good spot.
00:02:13.000I mean, it is kind of the worst aspects of modernity.
00:02:16.000The Twitter files, what's your original, like, what's your initial takeaway from that?
00:03:31.000We talk about, we have not talked about this in a very long time, but I talk about it on my show.
00:03:36.000And I tell people, and I have so accurately assessed Jack Dorsey because I kept saying that I think people turned him into a boogeyman because he never really spoke out.
00:03:45.000Like Mark Zuckerberg is very in your face.
00:03:56.000I'm sorry you've interrupted my meditation hour.
00:03:59.000And I think that people thought that he was much more evil than he was.
00:04:02.000And that my take from having met him several times was that he was very much a person who does not like attention, a techie, like just exactly what you would imagine somebody who was just a pure techie to be.
00:04:14.000And he didn't know how to deal with this thing that he did create to make people more freer.
00:04:19.000And he was almost like held hostage at his own company.
00:04:23.000When you and I met with him that summer, I mean, you read him super well.
00:04:28.000And I remember afterwards, we were walking in that kind of Twitter headquarters area and you said... Nice campus, by the way.
00:05:42.000And Jack Dorsey is someone who has the, embodies the opposite of that spirit, who kind of probably wants to sit behind a computer and code, who created something that other people on the outside who were much more nefarious saw an opportunity.
00:05:56.000And he was essentially held hostage at his own company.
00:05:59.000And that's been Elon Musk's assessment too.
00:06:01.000He doesn't think Jack Dorsey is a bad guy.
00:06:34.000And I spoke about this on stage today.
00:06:36.000And then you have people that are telling you, rinse yourself of your superpowers and be something else, which renders you a weak fool.
00:06:41.000And men are suffering from the same thing.
00:06:43.000Where do you think that comes from on the woman's side?
00:06:46.000It's the dogmatic approach to the education system.
00:06:48.000It's the cultural understanding that there are different pillars.
00:06:52.000So I would say that culture and education are probably the two biggest pillars that contribute to that.
00:06:57.000And broken down families, I would say family is another pillar.
00:07:01.000And so when you don't see two parents that are together embodying what it means to be masculine, embodying what it begins to mean feminine and what it means to come together, right?
00:07:10.000How symbiotic the nature of those two things are.
00:07:12.000And you instead hail from a broken home and then you go into a broken education system, which is teaching you these principles that are so backwards and so wrong and are never going to make you happy.
00:07:21.000And then when you get out of the school system, it's reinforced by the culture, right?
00:07:24.000You're watching movies and woman king.
00:07:40.000And then as a body, and then it happens simultaneously with men, because then the excuse I get from some of the young ladies that we have at Turning Point USA is, I have to be strong because the men around me are weak.
00:08:06.000And so, despite the psychological conditioning that tells us you should want a man that's neutered, who wants like a dog that's walking around with this tail in between its legs?
00:09:06.000And the thing is, is that a part of that is because women aren't allowing men to lead because they're being taught not to allow men to lead.
00:09:13.000And I'm a firm believer that you let men lead.
00:09:15.000It's natural for men to lead in the world.
00:09:19.000And it's natural for women to, despite what people think that happens, women lead in the household.
00:10:37.000It's not because of the patriarchy or the matriarchy.
00:10:39.000It is natural and it is beautiful and it is wonderful and everybody should aspire to it.
00:10:43.000But isn't it just, I mean, this is, again, I'm kind of on this theme with a lot of our guests of how we've messed up modernity because there's some great parts of modernity, right?
00:10:52.000I mean, there's some great parts of being able to say, you know, I have a headache, I want an Advil, right?
00:10:56.000Or being able to have a refrigerator or air conditioning, right?
00:10:59.000But we're in a place now where we feel that we have to change nature.
00:11:05.000And I think that makes you deeply unhappy.
00:11:24.000Because we live in this tremendous time of privilege, right?
00:11:28.000There's no calling upon us, you know, as I always talk about my grandfather when he had to get up in the morning and in order to make a living.
00:11:35.000This is like, if you are going to eat today, to survive, here is what you have to do.
00:11:58.000And so that is a double-edged sword when it comes to technology is that it also renders us more lazy, where they were required to work hard.
00:13:21.000And these events, I think, are actually helping get the juices flowing and get the muscles improved.
00:13:27.000But the ability to kind of dialogue, it's if you were to have kind of like a secret camera, not a secret camera, but just like a 35,000-who camera of just the behavior, even our conference, 10 steps, look at the phone.
00:13:39.000Five steps, look at the phone, even around other people.
00:13:43.000Well, the thing is, you said an important word there.
00:14:35.000I mean, I just only hard is that because it seems like all even the homeschooling stuff, the curriculums on iPads and Chromebooks and just.
00:14:44.000And I think the greatest thing to tell people is that all of those people that are giving you these social media apps send their kids to schools where they're not allowed to have iPads.
00:14:52.000And that is something people don't know, that they all go to schools where they're not allowed to have iPads.
00:14:56.000They're not allowed to have smartphones because they know that these things are evil.
00:15:00.000And it makes it less likely that their children are going to become successful.
00:15:02.000Because if you don't know how to go out and communicate with people, what are your chances of becoming successful in society?
00:15:07.000Eventually, you are going to have to come out of your shell.
00:15:10.000And they don't have an ability to do it.
00:15:12.000So for me, I've always just been dead committed to not allowing my children to have smartphones.
00:15:20.000I'm not here to be your best friend, right?
00:15:21.000I'm here to parent you and to give you the best opportunities that I can in this world.
00:15:27.000And the best opportunities come from true self-growth, from being able to understand and to feel assertive in who you are in the world, right?
00:15:35.000Not to be on TikTok learning trends and dances and posting it for like dopamine hits that goes away because then you're going, oh, what's the next thing I have to do for this next hit?
00:18:01.000But you're right, because despite all the propaganda, all the incentives, all the force, tens of millions of people made a micro decision saying, I'm not going to take the mRNA gene altering shot.
00:18:52.000I was from day one, absolutely not way too educated when it comes to vaccines, properly educated, not what you learn in school and your doctor says educated, but properly.
00:19:02.000I mean, I say to people all the time, LOL, if you think El Chapo and Pablo Escobar are the problem, what they wanted to accomplish, our government did.
00:19:10.000They wanted a relationship so they could move drugs with the government.
00:19:13.000They wanted to be able to control congressmen and be able to control the president of Mexico so they could move their job in Colombia so that they could move their drugs.
00:20:03.000So I employed common sense and then I researched and it wasn't for me and it wasn't for my family.
00:20:08.000And shame on you if you think that the whole COVID thing was the first time that, you know, Big Pharma lied to you.
00:20:15.000It's time for you to wake up and go backwards and start to realize when did this start?
00:20:18.000Because when I say that there is a medical cartel, I mean it.
00:20:22.000When I say that Pablo Escobar's ambitions are now taking place in America, what El Chapo wanted to accomplish, we have accomplished in America between the FDA and the CDC and people whose pockets are being lined because they trade on that information, right?
00:21:41.000Look at what you've done with your life.
00:21:42.000Imagine if your mother had listened to that advice and had drugged you on Ritalin because, oh, well, he's not sitting down and he doesn't want to study math for three hours.
00:23:11.000And my dad drove all the way to pick me up from college, university.
00:23:15.000And they prescribed me Xanax for being sad over a breakup.
00:23:21.000And thank God I had a girlfriend at the time in my dorm when I came back with that prescription who said, why are you going to take this pill?
00:23:27.000And I said, because I'm really sad and I can't stop crying about this breakup.
00:23:32.000And she said, okay, but why can't you stop crying?
00:23:34.000I was like, oh, because I love him so much and I'm so sad.
00:23:36.000And she said, well, if you know why you're sad, it's just a human emotion, right?
00:23:40.000You're going to have to learn to deal with that human emotion.
00:23:42.000Every time you get a human emotion, you get to take a pill.
00:24:07.000And the clip is entitled, Why I Don't Allow My Children to Have Cell Phones.
00:24:13.000It's a wonderful clip of him talking about that.
00:24:17.000That you have this beautiful biological design that even he likes talks about how he pulled over, he just cried and he cried and he cried in his car for no reason.
00:24:24.000And then he said, And then right after he was done crying, this overwhelming relief and happiness came over him.
00:24:29.000Like your body, like the happy came to meet the sad, right?
00:24:53.000It is the closest thing to turning you into a zombie-like figure that we have in kind of just the modern, you know, it's not over the counter, but prescribed.
00:25:01.000And there are tens of millions of Americans.
00:25:06.000And then there are, and I've had mothers write to me because I've talked about that on my show because there's so many young girls that are taking this.
00:25:11.000And I think it's cool where it's like, oh, I need a Xanax.
00:25:16.000It's become this like culturally cool thing in a weird way to talk about the fact that you take Xanax and they don't realize how severe that is long term and that they're going to have to be able to deal with that emotion of anxiety that they have.
00:25:27.000And moms say to me, well, you don't understand.
00:25:28.000Like my daughter was going to kill herself.
00:25:31.000If your daughter, if you legitimately think that your daughter is going to kill herself over taking finals, you need to withdraw her from school.
00:26:02.000And you have from the vaccines to the pharmaceuticals to now, if you look, if you were to kind of be able to have a Project Veritas secret camera in New Jersey at Pfizer headquarters or wherever, they're sitting around a table and they're saying, okay, let's look at our 10-year growth trajectory.
00:26:23.000And wow, profits were really good these last couple of years because we were able to get everyone mandated on the vaccine.
00:26:29.000And then they say, well, you know, what's going to be the big growth opportunity?
00:26:38.000And in the Pfizer table, they say millions of kids are going to be taking sex-altering drugs that will then make them chemically imbalanced.
00:26:46.000And then we'll be able to give them all these other variety of drugs.
00:26:49.000I guarantee that conversation is happening.
00:27:25.000And then another huge thing that's coming that needs to be talked about, and I have been talking about this for the last year and it's getting more and more sinister, is the MAID program up in Canada.
00:28:20.000They're going to start killing people fully.
00:28:21.000And the fact that there are doctors that are signing off on this man did a whole article in the Daily Mail the other day about how he just got a sign-off from a doctor to die because he was poor.
00:28:30.000It's just like, I just don't want to be poor.
00:28:32.000Could you imagine a doctor signing off because you don't want to be poor?
00:29:00.000I mean, to hear the arguments that they're having in parliament about this, it's being argued in the UK as well.
00:29:05.000This is what is going to come down the pipeline of big pharma: they are going to be mass killing people, but they're going to convince people to kill themselves.
00:29:12.000And don't ever doubt their capacity to do this.
00:29:13.000They have just now convinced people that they can pick their gender.
00:29:16.000They convinced people that they should be afraid of a two-year-old breathing if it wasn't masked and to freak out on a plane if you saw a child breathing.
00:29:21.000If you don't think that that same new structure has the ability to convince people to kill themselves, they're already running commercials of people that have already killed themselves being like, they used a woman as a spokesperson for this, and they ran a beautiful commercial of her voice in the afterlife being like, This was the best decision I ever made.
00:30:41.000If they've already made it palpable for women to rip children out of their wombs, like it's nothing, like it's a form of birth control.
00:30:47.000Of course, they are going to also make it appetizing for people to kill themselves.
00:30:53.000And it's sort of like before the trans thing blew up, I was on it five, like, I mean, from the beginning, everyone was like, this is not a big deal.
00:31:42.000Well, we talk about it and we make people realize that the way that it's going to encroach its way into America is the same way that it encroaches its way into Canada.
00:31:49.000First, they say it's the terminally ill who are suffering and are in pain, and then they go back and they vote and they start to erase parts of that law.
00:31:55.000And then they run some fluffy commercials.
00:32:11.000And you, and again, it comes down to your own household.
00:32:15.000It's making sure that we as Christians have those conversations with our children and that we have that religious argument and that we make people understand how precious life is.
00:32:25.000And unfortunately, this has not been an argument that we have won up until now, really.
00:32:30.000I mean, the abortion, it feels like we finally scored a win with Roe v. Wade, but it's coming.
00:35:40.000That's a good thing is that we are so independent, but we come up short when it comes to elections and when it comes behind us needing to all support one another for the purposes of saving this country.
00:36:03.000I mean, we were asking some of the people outside and there was a lot of pro-Trump, but I mean, at least from our audience, it's increasingly split.
00:36:09.000And I've been saying this for last year because I speak all over the country.
00:36:12.000And then when I said it, when I said to people, hey guys, here's what I'm seeing, you know, like people that were Trump loyalists are splitting and they got angry at me.
00:36:36.000You were the one that went with me to UCLA while being screamed at by those apparatchiks and defending Trump during all the BLM stuff and during Floyd.
00:36:45.000And so I just think it's a little bit.
00:36:49.000And I say people, if you care about Trump.
00:37:08.000And the thing is, is people have listened to me one month before, we wouldn't have gotten here.
00:37:11.000My assessment has been that there are people that are around him, I don't know who they are, who are not looking out for his best interests.
00:38:18.000And it's just like the funny moments of like when they would make fun of his hair.
00:38:21.000And remember when he got off the plane, he's like, oh, he gave like a speech and he was like, you know, I think I do a good job combing my hair.
00:38:27.000He was just so funny and lighthearted.
00:38:30.000And you can sense a heaviness in him now.
00:38:55.000And that's why that was really largely bringing it back to my message on stage tonight, was I said to them to the students tonight was be happy, right?
00:39:26.000And so, you know, I say these things publicly because you just have to hope that he hears it and understands that it's coming from people that have loved him the most, that have supported him the most.