The Charlie Kirk Show - REWIND — Charlie at 18, Newly Unearthed

00:00:03.000 My name is Charlie Kirk.

00:00:05.000 I run the largest pro-American student organization in the country fighting for the future of our republic.

00:00:11.000 My call is to fight evil and to proclaim truth.

00:00:14.000 If the most important thing for you is just feeling good, you're gonna end up miserable.

00:00:19.000 But if the most important thing is doing good, you'll end up purposeful.

00:00:24.000 College is a scam, everybody.

00:00:26.000 You gotta stop sending your kids to college.

00:00:27.000 You should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible.

00:00:31.000 Go start attorney point, you would say college chapter.

00:00:33.000 Go start attorney point, you'll say high school chapter.

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00:00:37.000 Sign up and become an activist.

00:00:38.000 I gave my life to the Lord in fifth grade.

00:00:41.000 Most important decision I ever made in my life, and I encourage you to do the same.

00:00:45.000 Here I am, Lord use me.

00:00:48.000 Buckle up, everybody.

00:00:49.000 Here we go.

00:00:57.000 Good morning and welcome to another great edition of Champion News Talk Radio, brought to you by Champion News.net.

00:01:04.000 We are your choice for the conservative voice.

00:01:07.000 Uh today, our founder Jack Roser and myself have Charlie Kirk with us, and Charlie Kirk is a young man from Turning Point.

00:01:17.000 He's the founder of the organization.

00:01:19.000 And uh Jack, how are you today?

00:01:21.000 Well, I'm fine, but uh they've seen me before, but they haven't seen him.

00:01:25.000 And uh this guy is a mover and shaker of young years that uh marvelous experience uh you've done with your life.

00:01:33.000 And uh I understand that you're a bit of a critic of the school system.

00:01:38.000 Uh well, what is the matter with you that you're criticizing the system that has made you so wonderful?

00:01:44.000 Well, you know, it's not all because of the school system.

00:01:46.000 There have been some very good teachers, and uh through my years at Wheeling High School, I enjoyed my time, but there were a lot of times where I felt that the teachers were pushing an alter alternative agenda and that our textbooks were written in certain ways to make us think uh things that were not true.

00:02:01.000 Uh they were trying to remove the founding documents from the U.S. history classes, they said they were not relevant.

00:02:07.000 Um they try really spent a lot of time on the Progressive Era, and our economics textbook was written by Paul Krugman from the New York Times, and in it was factually incorrect data.

00:02:16.000 I stood up to my teachers several times, and uh I tried to get other students to do the same.

00:02:20.000 Yeah, I have a question for you.

00:02:22.000 What do you mean they removed our founding documents?

00:02:24.000 But they made a document who tried to remove it.

00:02:26.000 It did not pass in the school board, but they tried to remove it from our U.S. history class.

00:02:30.000 Specifically our Constitution, our Declaration of Independence.

00:02:33.000 They tried to remove for our U.S. history classes everything before 1860, saying it was not relevant.

00:02:38.000 That's stunning to me.

00:02:39.000 Now it did not pass.

00:02:41.000 It was did not make the news, of course, but it was it showed that some people found that our founding documents no longer had relevancy in our schools, which is really concerning.

00:02:51.000 That is extremely concerning.

00:02:52.000 Why what was the teacher's reasoning, Charlie, for our founding documents not having relevancy to our country right now?

00:03:03.000 Some educational people in our district said that we need to have a more progressive view of our country and that everything post-1860 was more relevant to what the kids need to be learning.

00:03:13.000 And I found that alarming, and um again, that wasn't all the teachers in the district, but it was a select few, and even a few, if they are teaching that way, it's very concerning.

00:03:22.000 Uh now uh you may or may not know this.

00:03:26.000 What was the pair parental involvement in something like that?

00:03:29.000 Or first of all, the awareness level of parents, and then the involvement.

00:03:34.000 It was minimal, and uh parents have not been involved in school boards like they need to be.

00:03:38.000 Uh, they do not run for school board, they don't show up to the meetings.

00:03:41.000 Just the fact that Paul Krugman had economics textbook approved and put into our public high schools is inexcusable.

00:03:47.000 And that's who is Paul Krugman and why is he relevant to this conversation?

00:03:51.000 What type who is he?

00:03:53.000 Okay, Paul Krugman is a nationally known Nobel uh prize winning economist from the New York Times.

00:03:57.000 He writes a daily column.

00:03:59.000 He also wrote the book, Conscious of a Liberal.

00:04:01.000 And he's a he's a renowned collectivist.

00:04:04.000 Obama was given the the uh prize in the same organization.

00:04:08.000 Right.

00:04:08.000 Uh, the right judgment wasn't so good there either.

00:04:11.000 And the uh the school board decided to put uh Paul Krugman's textbook into the public school system, where in quote it said the Reagan tax cuts did not accelerate economic growth.

00:04:21.000 Really public schools.

00:04:23.000 I wrote a piece for Breitbart.com exposing this lie in our public education school system, and it encourages the progressive train of thought into our students?

00:04:32.000 And it's unfortunate because if a young person wants to get into economics, they're probably gonna look as Paul Krugman as a credible figure.

00:04:39.000 But he's not economically viable.

00:04:41.000 His st his statistics do not add up, and he writes for a very partisan news source, the New York Times.

00:04:46.000 He should not be in our public school system.

00:04:48.000 And we need more students to stay.

00:04:51.000 Very similar to it.

00:04:52.000 He said that 9-11 was a stimulus and created jobs.

00:04:56.000 He thinks that a broken window creates jobs.

00:04:59.000 This is not this is an economic myth called the broken window fallacy.

00:05:03.000 And it's what is being taught in our schools and unfortunately being pushed onto fellow students.

00:05:08.000 Well, I do know that the some of the textbooks.

00:05:12.000 I have a 15-year-old son, and I've got a lot of friends whose kids go to even some private schools.

00:05:18.000 But there's they talk about communism versus capitalism.

00:05:23.000 And capitalism is somebody having the whole cow to themselves.

00:05:27.000 And communism is where everybody shares this cow.

00:05:31.000 Do they embellish in theory?

00:05:34.000 In theory, do they do they make communism and socialism sound like a more desirable way to live where it's just fairer?

00:05:41.000 Well, they they do put a very big emphasis on the progressive era in the early 1900s where they say that oh, there's a problem, there must be a government to fix it.

00:05:50.000 For example, you know, Upton King uh Upton Sinclair's book, The Jungle, you know, we had all the terrible meat factories, well, then we had to create the FDA.

00:05:57.000 We had an unstable currency, we had to create the Fed.

00:05:59.000 So the kids start to subconsciously feel that, oh, the government solves every problem.

00:06:04.000 And we did a poll in our in our high school in the local area.

00:06:07.000 Which economic system would be most prosperous to create wealth for the middle, lower, and upper class for all people over the next hundred years.

00:06:15.000 Twenty-eight percent said capitalism, forty percent said socialism, the rest said they don't know the difference between socialism and capitalism.

00:06:24.000 Really?

00:06:24.000 Which was really the more intelligent answer.

00:06:27.000 Right.

00:06:28.000 And um Well, yeah, at least yeah, I'd rather have them not know because there's opportunity for education.

00:06:33.000 That's exactly what our group is doing is getting these kids understanding the morality of free markets, the immorality of excessive borrowing.

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00:06:46.000 It has been an honor and a privilege to partner with Turning Point and for Charlie to endorse us.

00:06:51.000 His endorsement means the world to us, and we look forward to continuing our partnership with Turning Point for years to come.

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00:07:50.000 So your group, what is it specifically?

00:07:52.000 What does that mean?

00:07:53.000 You have a group.

00:07:53.000 What is it?

00:07:54.000 Turning point USA is turned into a national movement.

00:07:56.000 It was launched uh June 5th.

00:07:58.000 We have over 20 to 25 national chapters, and we have 30 to 50 uh student columnists from all over the country that contribute to our website.

00:08:06.000 We give them a platform of empowerment so they can write something, they can publish it, they can show their friends, their family.

00:08:12.000 But let me ask you a question.

00:08:13.000 Do you organize that when you were still in high school?

00:08:15.000 Uh at the at the ends of high school and then throughout the summer, yes.

00:08:18.000 But you have a website.

00:08:20.000 How are you how specifically are you reaching out to this percentage?

00:08:25.000 I think it's 40 percent that don't know the difference.

00:08:28.000 Right.

00:08:29.000 How specifically do you reach out to that 40 percent that's unsure and then re-educate that other 40 percent that is obviously misled.

00:08:39.000 We're doing it in three specific ways.

00:08:40.000 Uh, number one is Facebook and Twitter.

00:08:42.000 Social media is extremely important.

00:08:44.000 We have 12,000 likes, we're on the cutting edge of social media for young people.

00:08:48.000 The second of which is in July, we're hosting hopefully one of the biggest debate tournaments in the Midwest.

00:08:52.000 We're we're planning to have three to four hundred high school debate teams come and debate fiscal policy. 0.98

00:08:58.000 The third is a very innovative way that we came up with, and it's to read that reach that 40 percent of kids that usually don't care about politics.

00:09:05.000 We're hosting a three-on-three basketball tournament to get young people to come and play basketball, they leave with our t-shirt and they leave with a little bit of literature.

00:09:12.000 It's innovative, it's new, it's fresh.

00:09:14.000 Not many think tanks think to do a basketball tournament.

00:09:18.000 And that's the way we reach kids that are usually apathetic or they don't know because we go to where they are.

00:09:23.000 And that's that's what's innovative and creative about Turning Point USA.

00:09:27.000 So you you're trying to do an outreach.

00:09:29.000 Now do you ever do I mean do we have things right affiliated with the school?

00:09:33.000 Because I know there are some um young folks out of the Will County area too that have a youth program and they reach out and they have meetings and they've really tried to they actually do walk precincts and things like that.

00:09:47.000 No, we do not we do not do sp do specifically for any candidate, at least this last election cycle.

00:09:51.000 And the reason is is we go at it in a nonpartisan point of view.

00:09:55.000 Now we believe in fiscal uh responsibility, free markets, but instead of we we encourage uh civic participation, we encourage people to be interns.

00:10:03.000 A majority of our uh people in our group were interns for Joe Walsh or Congressman Dold.

00:10:07.000 We love that.

00:10:08.000 But also we educate in meetings and debates.

00:10:11.000 Like we hosted a debate at the University of Wisconsin Madison, and we're starting a chapter there.

00:10:16.000 We have 20 high schools and colleges representative where they have meetings and they they gather and they educate their peers in innovative ways, like through basketball tournaments.

00:10:25.000 Or one of the chapters they emailed me, they said, could we do an ultimate frisbee competition for turning point?

00:10:31.000 Like how cool is that?

00:10:32.000 Who would have thought of that otherwise?

00:10:34.000 That's how you get college kids engaged in politics.

00:10:36.000 You know, it's good to have the slideshow and the graphs, but we have to get them through the door first.

00:10:41.000 But do you get them through the door and you do this frisbee thing and you give them literature?

00:10:46.000 What's enticing them to even open this up?

00:10:48.000 They they give us their email, they have to like us on Facebook, they like us on Twitter, we tie them in perfectly because through social media, it's kind of you last sue them in and then you reel them in later.

00:10:58.000 Because these kids have their their minds going in so many different directions that once you tie them in, they're going to uh be educated.

00:11:05.000 What topics are you mainly interested there?

00:11:07.000 Mm-hmm.

00:11:08.000 What topics are you?

00:11:09.000 The debt and the deficit, we think it's extremely relevant to our generation.

00:11:13.000 We're gonna have to pay it off.

00:11:14.000 And it's immoral.

00:11:18.000 We we think that it's immoral and we do call it socialistic behavior, absolutely.

00:11:22.000 And we also focus on education.

00:11:24.000 We think that every student should have a six uh chance to learn, and we think that teachers are not being held accountable in our public school education system.

00:11:33.000 To give some perspective, uh, fifty teachers in the district two fourteen area earn 150,000 or more with no accountability.

00:11:40.000 And you ask these students.

00:11:42.000 That's uh that'd be Arlington Night.

00:11:43.000 Right, the Arlington Heights area, Mount Prospect, Elk Grove, and Wheeling area.

00:11:47.000 And most of the students even believe that's excessive.

00:11:50.000 When the students believe it's excessive, you know that we need reform.

00:11:53.000 And a lot of the there are some great teachers that I've had in my life, but they're also teachers that take advantage of the system.

00:11:58.000 And we need private sector reforms to make sure our education system is better for the students.

The Charlie Kirk Show - October 03, 2025

REWIND — Charlie at 18, Newly Unearthed

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