The Charlie Kirk Show - July 28, 2025


RFK Jr. is Making Massive MAHA Moves ft. Sec. Bobby Kennedy Jr.


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Bobby Kennedy breaks some major news on our show. The vaccine injury compensation program has been around since 1986, but now it is no longer available in court to parents of vaccine-injured kids. The government has taken control of the program and turned it into an adversarial process.

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00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here live from the Bitcoin.com studio.
00:00:04.000 Bobby Kennedy breaks some major news on our show.
00:00:07.000 That's right.
00:00:08.000 Bobby Kennedy joins us exclusively, makes some big news.
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00:01:24.000 Joining us now is a phenomenal person who's doing a great job as Secretary of Health and Human Services.
00:01:31.000 It's Secretary Bobby Kennedy Jr.
00:01:33.000 Mr. Secretary, thank you so much for joining us today.
00:01:36.000 You have some news to share.
00:01:37.000 I just saw the tweet regarding the VICP going all the way back to the 1986 Vaccine Act.
00:01:46.000 Mr. Secretary, please tell our audience about this breaking news.
00:01:49.000 Yeah, the vaccine injury compensation program, which was part of the Vaccine Act that was passed in 1986.
00:01:57.000 And you know what happened back then, Charlie?
00:02:00.000 The vaccine companies said they were paying, they were getting sued at that point, and they were paying $200 in downstream liabilities, according to them, for every dollar that they made selling vaccines.
00:02:13.000 And they went to Congress and said, we're going to stop making vaccines unless you give us immunity from liability.
00:02:20.000 And Congress worked with the parents of vaccine-injured kids to come up with a solution because the court solutions were not good for the vaccine injured either because they took so long.
00:02:32.000 And so many of these parents are very, very desperate to get compensation and care for these, you know, very, very needy kids.
00:02:40.000 So they worked out a compromise solution where they would give the vaccine companies immunity from liability.
00:02:46.000 So no matter how negligent they are, no matter how reckless, no matter how unnecessary their ingredients or their quality control, you can't sue them.
00:02:55.000 But Congress made up for that by saying that we're going to create a compensation program and a procedure by which parents can come in and quickly, generously get compensation without having to go through this whole court process.
00:03:14.000 So it was well-intentioned.
00:03:15.000 And in that, the tie was supposed to go to the runner.
00:03:18.000 So if there was a question about whether the injury was vaccine-related or not, they were supposed to compensate the child.
00:03:28.000 It's turned out to be, and at that point, under the original act, the children, if they didn't like the settlement they got from the vaccine court, they could go to a real court and vindicate their claim.
00:03:41.000 What's happened is the act has changed.
00:03:44.000 So you can no longer go to you can no longer go to another court.
00:03:48.000 It is your exclusive remedy.
00:03:51.000 And they've made it, you're not suing the vaccine company that made the brought the defective product.
00:03:58.000 You're suing instead me, the Department OF Health AND Human Services, and we're represented by DOJ lawyers.
00:04:07.000 So you're facing the the awesome, the deep pockets and the awesome power of the federal government.
00:04:12.000 There's no discovery, they they can't look at the, the vaccine safety data link, which is the attorneys are not allowed to look at it and independent external researchers can't get in there.
00:04:24.000 And that's the record.
00:04:25.000 You know the data sets for all the vaccine injuries they've.
00:04:30.000 The Justice Department attorneys have turned this into historically, not under Pambony.
00:04:36.000 She's trying to fix this into a very adversarial proceeding so that, on average, half the cases get dismissed.
00:04:45.000 The average length of adjudication is five years.
00:04:49.000 Some of these parents who are desperately needy to have, uh have, care for their kids take 10 years and these kids some of them, you know it's a million dollars a year to care for them.
00:05:00.000 And so the the system has been, has been turned into this kind of morass where vaccine cases go to die and most vaccine cases, particularly the serious ones, simply don't get compensated.
00:05:14.000 They've also changed the rules to abolish vaccine injury by fiat.
00:05:20.000 So they took the age-old definition of encephalopathy, which is brain injury, brain damage, and they made it so that there's no way that you can prove it.
00:05:30.000 You have to prove your child lost consciousness for 24 hours and then was hospitalized, and um, and then they have to jump through a bunch of other hoops.
00:05:41.000 You can't prove it, so each case goes in and has to be proven like a regular court of law.
00:05:47.000 And it's evolved into this very, very um cruel, heartless system that is designed to deny vaccine injury and to deny uh compensation to people who who badly need it.
00:06:06.000 And we are about to fix all that.
00:06:09.000 And I want to get into the fixing.
00:06:10.000 But just to reiterate it, immunity is a blank check to be careless.
00:06:14.000 Look, i'm not a huge fan of all the trial lawyers or attorneys, but over time they do make products safer, whether it be, you know, faulty engines in cars or whether it be problems with food.
00:06:26.000 Again, the over litigious nature of part of our society probably needs to be restrained. 1.00
00:06:30.000 But when you have no capacity to be able to sue when a product is faulty, then it's just a blank check to be careless.
00:06:38.000 And so, secret secretary Kennedy, what are you doing to fix this?
00:06:42.000 Because I know a ton of families that have submitted reports to Vares, the vaccine adverse event reporting system, and for years and years.
00:06:50.000 They can't get any progress at all with the Vicp, the vaccine injury compensation program.
00:06:57.000 How are you fixing this?
00:06:58.000 Because this is a broken system that that overwhelmingly benefits Astrazeneca Moderna, Pfizer and Johnson AND Johnson, secretary Kennedy yeah, I mean those companies, Companies, you know, we have a free market system in those countries, and part of that is that there's consequences if you make a bad product.
00:07:20.000 And, you know, vaccines are particularly exempt from that because there's no free market economy.
00:07:25.000 Normally, if you get poisoned by Coca-Cola, you can stop drinking Coca-Cola.
00:07:30.000 But if you get poisoned by a vaccine, your kids still have to take that vaccine to get to the school.
00:07:35.000 If your doctor tells you your child will die because you can look and see what happened to elder siblings, there's some kind of genetic vulnerability that's affected the older siblings.
00:07:47.000 And the doctor wants to tell you your third child should not take this vaccine.
00:07:53.000 He's going to be punished for that.
00:07:55.000 But also, the schools won't let you go to school no matter what.
00:07:59.000 So in New York and California, there's not only no religious exemptions, there's no philosophical exemptions, but there also effectively is no medical exemption.
00:08:10.000 So these kids, it's mandated.
00:08:12.000 And because it's mandated, there's no market forces that tell you, that allow you, if you don't like the product, if you have reservations about it, you can't stop using it.
00:08:23.000 You got to take it anyway.
00:08:25.000 So the things that, and then, you know, you have, of course, the mainstream media is bought and brain dead when it comes to these issues.
00:08:33.000 They will not criticize, they will not report vaccine injury.
00:08:37.000 The Congress is very with the, so you have none of the market forces that apply that make other products safe.
00:08:48.000 There is zero incentive for these companies to make them safe.
00:08:52.000 And they don't get punished for it in the market.
00:08:54.000 They don't get punished for it in the court.
00:08:57.000 And so, you know, what we're going to try to do is to make sure that the parents who do get injured get compensation, that they get it very quickly.
00:09:06.000 And they get it without the kind of adversarial impediments that have now been erected over the past 40 years.
00:09:13.000 So, Secretary Kennedy, just I looked at some of these numbers previously.
00:09:18.000 The counter argument is like, oh, this barely ever happens.
00:09:20.000 Now, just in 2021, there were 1.3 million reports that came into the vaccine adverse event reporting system.
00:09:27.000 Now, of course, there might be some people lying and there's some fraud or there might be other issues.
00:09:32.000 So let's just cut that in half.
00:09:35.000 That's 650,000 Americans that very well might have been harmed by a vaccine.
00:09:42.000 How many people, Secretary Kennedy, do you think have legitimate claims?
00:09:46.000 I know it's a tough question or approximation, but can you at least reiterate this is a major issue, a potentially affecting millions of Americans that I'm ignored by their government.
00:09:56.000 Secretary Kennedy.
00:09:57.000 Well, first of all, you should know that when somebody wins a case in the vaccine court, they're not compensated by the company that injured them.
00:10:07.000 They're compensated from a trust fund that is endowed with a 75 cent surcharge on every vaccine.
00:10:17.000 Oh, that trust fund is sitting there.
00:10:18.000 It's got a couple of billion dollars in it.
00:10:20.000 It's paid out to date about $5.6 billion.
00:10:25.000 And 12,000 people have recovered.
00:10:28.000 Well, about 13,000 have cases been dismissed.
00:10:33.000 But there's no advertising for this program.
00:10:37.000 Doctors are not trained how to recognize vaccine injuries.
00:10:41.000 So if your child gets an allergy, for example, or asthma or seizures when they're four or five years old, there's no way that your doctor is ever going to say, hey, that might have come from the vaccine.
00:10:55.000 I'm going to report it to VARES.
00:10:57.000 So there's chronic undercounting in VARES.
00:11:00.000 You said a million rise.
00:11:02.000 Well, in 2010, CDC did a study of VARES.
00:11:07.000 And what they found in their own study is that fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries are reported.
00:11:15.000 So most people who get a vaccine injury don't even know it.
00:11:21.000 And they never report it.
00:11:22.000 And there's a lot of penalties against doctors who do report them.
00:11:27.000 It's time consuming.
00:11:28.000 They're not compensated for the time they get.
00:11:31.000 Medical boards frown on them for doing that, and they're not trained in medical school to recognize the injuries.
00:11:38.000 So Secretary Kennedy, what do you say to those who just say this is just more anti-vaccine propaganda and that this will only further deteriorate people's trust in vaccines?
00:11:50.000 I mean, my job as Secretary of HHS is to restore trust in the vaccine program so that parents know that we're telling them the truth, that we tell them the things that we know.
00:12:03.000 We tell them the things that we don't know.
00:12:06.000 And we tell them the things that, you know, are both good and bad about vaccines.
00:12:10.000 Vaccines are very, very useful in many cases, but they do cause injuries occasionally.
00:12:17.000 And we need to be frank about that.
00:12:19.000 And we need to have compassion toward the children who are injured.
00:12:24.000 We can't gaslight the parents.
00:12:26.000 We can't gaslight the children.
00:12:28.000 We can't marginalize and vilify the doctors and delicense the doctors who report injuries.
00:12:35.000 We can't punish and retract articles by the scientists who document those injuries.
00:12:41.000 We have to start being honest again with the American public.
00:12:45.000 And my philosophy is that public health officials should never lie.
00:12:49.000 They should never, you know, Anthony Fauci used to talk about the noble lie.
00:12:53.000 He would tell people things to get them to do things that were good for them.
00:12:58.000 Well, we're going to start trusting the American public, that they're the best judges of what's good for them, what's good for their kids, and what they need is good information that they can believe, not information that they've been fed by public health agencies to try to manipulate their behavior.
00:13:15.000 Secretary Kennedy, we have to let you go.
00:13:17.000 Thank you so much for all of your leadership and your courage on this.
00:13:20.000 Any final thoughts, one minute remaining on this major announcement?
00:13:24.000 I mean, we're a nation of compassion.
00:13:27.000 And, you know, my uncle helped write this bill.
00:13:30.000 And when during the Senate debate, he said in America, we are not going to ignore people who are left behind.
00:13:37.000 We're not going to try to advance an agenda or advance the American people by leaving the vulnerable, the injured behind.
00:13:46.000 Every child who takes one of these vaccines is entitled to compensation if they get injured.
00:13:53.000 And we need to, as a nation, commit ourselves to compensating them justly, generously, and quickly.
00:14:00.000 Secretary Kennedy, thank you so much.
00:14:02.000 You're welcome anytime.
00:14:03.000 And thank you for doing what you said you were going to do.
00:14:06.000 Thank you so much, Secretary Kennedy.
00:14:08.000 Thank you, Charlie.
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00:15:34.000 Many Gen Z men, especially, were raised in homes without strong fathers or any dads at all.
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00:16:34.000 They want to look up.
00:16:36.000 Almost every generation until Gen Z has become less and less religious.
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00:16:43.000 And make no mistake, post-COVID, there's so much bad came out of COVID.
00:16:47.000 But God will use something evil for good, as he beautifully says in the scriptures, Genesis 50, 20.
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00:16:58.000 Romans 8, 28, which is, God will use all things for good for those who love him.
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00:17:07.000 And we are now in this moment, this incredible moment, where millions of young people are giving their life to Jesus.
00:17:15.000 One of the top songs out there is a song by a very impressive young man, Forrest Frank.
00:17:20.000 People love this guy.
00:17:22.000 And he is a Christian music artist.
00:17:26.000 He actually shared our video from Fox and Friends Weekend of me and Ali B. Stuckey.
00:17:32.000 And Forrest Frank, if you listen to his music, the theology of Forrest Frank's movement is terrific.
00:17:40.000 It's very good.
00:17:41.000 I was even listening with an analytical eye.
00:17:43.000 I said, okay, is this going to be a little bit kind of like narcissism?
00:17:47.000 Me, I'm going to get rich with Jesus.
00:17:48.000 Nope.
00:17:49.000 His number one song is Your Way is Better.
00:17:52.000 It's all about how Jesus has a way.
00:17:54.000 And the profundity of what Forrest Frank is saying in that song is very, very significant.
00:18:00.000 It goes back to what C.S. Lewis would talk about, which is the Tao.
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00:18:15.000 The theology and the actual wording of the songs is terrific.
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00:18:52.000 It's very, very difficult to summarize that in a short period of time.
00:18:56.000 But we're seeing the music revelation, the Renaissance, and the church renaissance.
00:18:59.000 It's a beautiful thing.
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00:20:59.000 Okay, I'm very interested in this story because I hate being lied to and I hate being propagandized.
00:21:05.000 And this weekend, there was an all-out propaganda campaign trying to make it seem as if Israel is intentionally starving the people of Gaza.
00:21:16.000 I hate being lied to, especially by the media networks.
00:21:19.000 They lied to us about COVID.
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00:21:22.000 They lied to us about open borders.
00:21:23.000 They lied to us on Hunter Biden laptop.
00:21:25.000 Joining us now is Rabbi Willicki, a great friend.
00:21:29.000 And thank you so much for defending me the other day.
00:21:31.000 Rabbi Willicki, you're also the YouTube, people can find you on YouTube, Israel365.
00:21:36.000 Rabbi, let's just go to the facts here and then let's get into the lies.
00:21:40.000 What is the situation in Gaza as the truth would bear it out?
00:21:43.000 Not the New York Times propagandist network.
00:21:46.000 Well, if we're talking about the starvation lie, and thank you, Charlie.
00:21:49.000 Thank you for having me on to talk about this.
00:21:51.000 It's so important because this is really pure, pure propaganda, as you say.
00:21:56.000 So since the beginning of the war, since October 7th, the whole issue of the food getting into Gaza and how much food is getting in has been weaponized by Hamas and by the whole pro-Hamas crowd.
00:22:09.000 And what they're doing most recently is claiming that there's a starvation crisis.
00:22:13.000 The quantities of food, I'm not going to get into the weeds of the numbers, but the quantities of food that have been brought into the Gaza Strip since the beginning of the war and month over month is enough to feed the Gaza Strip according to the World Food Program's numbers for what it takes to feed people for longer than this war has gone on, for about 27 months worth of food.
00:22:33.000 And there's plenty of food getting into the Gaza Strip.
00:22:37.000 But what's happening is that Hamas is trying to perpetuate this narrative that Gazans are starving because starting about two months ago, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which is run by Americans and is in cooperation with the Israelis, has started distributing food, started distributing humanitarian aid directly to the people of Gaza.
00:23:00.000 And why is that important?
00:23:02.000 Because until they started doing that, the only way for Gazans to get food was to get it from Hamas. 0.87
00:23:08.000 All of the tons and tons of food, all the truckloads of food that have been coming into the Gaza Strip as humanitarian aid since the beginning of the war until two months ago, were brought in by United Nations organizations that were working hand in glove with Hamas.
00:23:24.000 It was going directly to Hamas, and then Hamas would sell it at exorbitant prices to the people, hoard it for themselves, take all the fuel to fuel their war machine, use it to recruit new recruits into Hamas. 0.57
00:23:37.000 And it was basically Hamas's oxygen. 0.83
00:23:41.000 The estimates now by the United States, by the State Department, is that Hamas has made approximately $500 million just from selling aid to the people of the Gaza Strip since the war has began.
00:23:54.000 So Israel has realized for a long time that this is a problem because while the aid has to get to people, the aid is also fueling Hamas. 0.75
00:24:01.000 So two months ago, they started this new program where in areas that are under Israeli security control on the Gaza Strip, they distribute the food directly to the Gazan citizens.
00:24:11.000 All the aid is supposed to be free.
00:24:13.000 In fact, there are videos and pictures online of packages marked not for sale being sold by Hamas vendors to the people of the Gaza Strip.
00:24:25.000 So what's happening now is because food is being distributed directly to the Gazan citizens at these distribution centers, that's cutting off Hamas's oxygen because the people can get food directly from the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation.
00:24:38.000 They don't have to pay exorbitant prices to Hamas. 0.84
00:24:41.000 And Hamas is both losing control of the population and also losing their cash flow.
00:24:46.000 So they started perpetuating this starvation narrative a few, really just over the course of the last couple of weeks.
00:24:53.000 It has no basis, in fact.
00:24:54.000 We see this even from the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas's own numbers for casualties for deaths throughout this war.
00:25:02.000 There's nobody dying of starvation in the Gaza Strip.
00:25:05.000 But you could also see it looking at the pictures on your screen right now.
00:25:08.000 We know what starving people look like.
00:25:09.000 These are Gazans. 0.88
00:25:10.000 They're not emaciated.
00:25:11.000 They're not starving.
00:25:12.000 The people of Gaza are not starving.
00:25:15.000 But Hamas needs to perpetuate this narrative so that the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation is discredited and they could go back to the old system of all of the food and aid going through the UN to Hamas so they can retain control over the population and keep their cash flow going. 0.75
00:25:33.000 There's a lot more to the story than that.
00:25:34.000 I don't know how into the weeds you want me to go, but if people go to our YouTube channel, Israel365 YouTube, we've been covering this for months.
00:25:41.000 Yes, so let's just put this picture up here.
00:25:43.000 This is what really set me off.
00:25:45.000 And these lies against Israel are relentless.
00:25:48.000 This is a mother holding a baby.
00:25:50.000 And by the looks of it, this is pure visual warfare.
00:25:55.000 Plug a 309.
00:25:56.000 This is all this is.
00:25:57.000 This is propaganda, emotional, visual, optical warfare, optical warfare.
00:26:03.000 And so no one likes to see what you're looking at here.
00:26:05.000 Looks like a kid who's starving to death, right?
00:26:07.000 So the whole story says this.
00:26:09.000 The story says young, old, and sick starved to death in Gaza.
00:26:14.000 That is the front page of the New York Times.
00:26:17.000 And so the picture they're using is of Muhammad al-Mutawak, a child with a muscular disorder, and they're using that as the face of famine in Gaza.
00:26:29.000 And so what you are saying, Rabbi, just to respond to the New York Times here, I'm going to read the New York Times just for people understand.
00:26:37.000 Israel, I can't, it's got a little blurry, but it says that trading of blame and chaos as violence hit aid routes.
00:26:45.000 There is nothing here.
00:26:47.000 They are starving to death.
00:26:49.000 And then the picture they are using is a young kid who tragically is suffering from a muscular disorder, but he's not starving to death.
00:26:58.000 So just to repeat what you're saying, Rabbi, you're saying that there is no starvation in Gaza.
00:27:03.000 Is that correct?
00:27:04.000 Look, it could be that in certain areas under Hamas control where they still control things and are hoarding the food, that they're not distributing it in order to create more of a starvation and a desperation problem so that Gazans could be going hungry so that they can perpetuate the narrative. 0.65
00:27:21.000 And that's not just a conspiracy that I'm saying.
00:27:25.000 Just the other day, there was drone footage released by the Israelis to debunk the whole starvation narrative of 1,000 truckloads of humanitarian aid that had been delivered into the areas that are still under Hamas control that were sitting on the other side of the Gaza border, meaning on the Gaza side of the border, a thousand truckloads sitting there for weeks and weeks.
00:27:49.000 No one was coming to pick it up.
00:27:52.000 And the UN was saying they had logistical problems.
00:27:55.000 And then as soon, but right after Israel released that drone footage of these 900 truckloads over the last couple of days, hundreds and hundreds of those truckloads have been picked up because they were humiliated by the release of this drone footage that showed that they simply weren't taking the aid into the Gaza Strip.
00:28:14.000 Now, let me make it clear.
00:28:14.000 A thousand truckloads of aid is about what it takes to feed the entire Gaza Strip for two weeks.
00:28:21.000 And a significant portion of the Gaza Strip is being fed now by this other organization, the American organization, the Gaza Humanitarian Fund.
00:28:28.000 So for the Gazans who remain under Hamas control, this thousand truckloads is probably a month's worth of food, and Hamas was simply not picking it up.
00:28:37.000 Listen, I'm going to play this piece of tape here live from Mount Aid.
00:28:41.000 This is quite a video.
00:28:42.000 But you think about it from Hamas's perspective.
00:28:45.000 Hamas would want the people of Gaza to starve.
00:28:48.000 Number one, they don't care about their own people. 0.93
00:28:50.000 They're just cannon fodder for their radical Islamic aims. 1.00
00:28:53.000 But secondly, if they can starve their people, then they can get a media narrative in the West to try to end the brokering of the war. 0.84
00:29:04.000 So it's a circuitous way.
00:29:06.000 It is a loophole way of them to use their own kids to starve, blame the Israelis for the starvation to get the war against the terrorists to stop. 0.71
00:29:16.000 Let's play Cut 312.
00:29:18.000 This is from someone, Fish Berger.
00:29:22.000 I want to make sure I get that Fish Burger, who literally sees a thousand things of aid.
00:29:26.000 Look at all the aid that is not being distributed to the people of Gaza.
00:29:32.000 Play Cut 312.
00:29:34.000 I don't know if you guys have ever seen what 600 trucks worth of aid looks like.
00:29:42.000 But this is what it looks like.
00:29:44.000 It is a lot of aid.
00:29:48.000 Wow.
00:29:50.000 It's all going to waste because the UN refuses to distribute it.
00:29:53.000 Unbelievable.
00:29:56.000 Unbelievable.
00:29:57.000 Look at this.
00:30:00.000 Look at all that.
00:30:03.000 Literally mountains of aid.
00:30:06.000 Literally, look, standing on it.
00:30:08.000 Standing on mountains of aid.
00:30:15.000 I mean, that is an extraordinary amount of food and aid.
00:30:18.000 So is the UN intentionally allowing the kids of Gaza to starve?
00:30:22.000 What is going on here?
00:30:24.000 When you talk about the UN in Gaza, you're not talking about the people sitting in the United Nations in New York.
00:30:31.000 The UN in Gaza is Hamas. 0.91
00:30:34.000 It has been for a long time.
00:30:36.000 If you remember all of the flab earlier on in the war about UNRWA, the UN Relief Works Agency, which it turned out that a lot of their employees were actually members of Hamas who even participated in October 7th.
00:30:48.000 Because the UN employees in Gaza are all locals, and Hamas controls the UN in Gaza.
00:30:57.000 So when you hear about the schools, for example, that Hamas uses as military sites, so that when Israel bombs a military installation and they say, oh, you bombed a school, those schools are UN schools.
00:31:09.000 So there really is no distinction.
00:31:11.000 It's kind of a fictional distinction between the UN and Hamas.
00:31:15.000 When it comes to the Gaza Strip, the UN is just kind of a cover for Hamas.
00:31:20.000 Yeah, and it's just, it's just such a lie, and it's creating so much hysteria here in the United States.
00:31:29.000 And just so we are clear again, this is the only way that Hamas can quote unquote survive the war is through a narrative war where they win sentimentality in the West. 0.83
00:31:40.000 So they are willing to have their people starve.
00:31:44.000 They're willing to have invoked famine so that they can win points in the West and then blame it on Israel. 0.78
00:31:52.000 These are the very same people that did this on October 7th against the innocent Israelis on October 7th.
00:31:58.000 Why wouldn't they also do it to their own people?
00:31:59.000 But they are.
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00:32:58.000 We're going to play a word association test.
00:33:00.000 What's the first word that comes to mind when you hear Israel?
00:33:02.000 Judaism.
00:33:02.000 Aid.
00:33:03.000 Aid.
00:33:03.000 Nanyahu.
00:33:04.000 Tax dollars.
00:33:05.000 Liability.
00:33:05.000 Sacred.
00:33:06.000 Tax dollars.
00:33:07.000 Conflict.
00:33:07.000 Complex.
00:33:08.000 Controversial.
00:33:09.000 Scary.
00:33:10.000 Strategic.
00:33:10.000 Massage.
00:33:11.000 There is a lot there with this Israel focus group.
00:33:15.000 We'll get to that with Rabbi Willicki in a second.
00:33:17.000 This has gone viral, and it's worthy of your attention.
00:33:21.000 You guys can watch it on our YouTube page.
00:33:24.000 I have a lot of people texted to me, and some people were very upset about it.
00:33:27.000 And we just did an entire segment defending Israel against the lies.
00:33:34.000 You guys know where I stand on this.
00:33:36.000 But also, I am here as an interlocutor to try to explain what is coming next and what is real.
00:33:43.000 Don't be upset just because someone is reporting the information.
00:33:46.000 Anyway, there's also been a lot of positive on it as well.
00:33:48.000 So you guys can check it out on the YouTube panel page, Charlie Kirk YouTube page, and I think you'll really enjoy it.
00:33:53.000 Rabbi Willicki is with us.
00:33:55.000 Rabbi, I want to play this piece of tape here, and then I want to give you some time to react to just the entire focus group.
00:34:01.000 Let's go to Cut 302.
00:34:03.000 This is with our turning point, you'll say, students, they say that anti-Semite is becoming the new word racism, which means almost nothing, unfortunately.
00:34:09.000 Play cut 302.
00:34:11.000 You're not anti-Israel.
00:34:12.000 You don't wish them harm.
00:34:14.000 You're not, you know, like cheering on Iran.
00:34:16.000 No, I support Israel.
00:34:17.000 I think there are ally.
00:34:18.000 I want them.
00:34:19.000 But you would be called an anti-Semite by some people for saying this. 0.98
00:34:22.000 And I think that's ridiculous. 0.93
00:34:23.000 I don't hate Jews because I think a nation should defend themselves. 0.97
00:34:27.000 Exactly. 0.99
00:34:29.000 I think that's the most ridiculous thing ever. 0.96
00:34:31.000 I feel like it's becoming like the word racism. 0.98
00:34:33.000 Like we just disagree with them, so we just have to call them a name.
00:34:36.000 I don't think they're actually anti-Semitic.
00:34:39.000 I think people just can't agree with them and they can't prove them wrong.
00:34:42.000 So they just throw a word out and be like, you're anti-Semitic because you think that we should stop sending our money there.
00:34:48.000 Rabbi Williki has asked, Rabbi, what was your reaction of our focus group?
00:34:52.000 Well, Charlie, first of all, I commend you for doing it.
00:34:54.000 And the fact that you're getting criticized by those who support Israel and by those who are anti-Israel, I think shows that you did something very important.
00:35:03.000 And really just listening to what these kids have to say.
00:35:05.000 And if much of what they have to say or some of what they have to say is based on misconceptions or incorrect information, that just tells me as an Israeli and as someone who is an advocate for Israel that we have more work to do.
00:35:20.000 But what I was really thinking as I watched this is that there's a question that's been on my mind really for more than a year now, almost since the beginning of the war here in Israel, which is, and I don't mean this as a criticism of anyone, this question.
00:35:34.000 If you look around the world at populist, nationalist, Christian conservatives, right-wing Christian conservatives everywhere else in the world, whether it's Viktor Orban's supporters in Hungary, Geert Wilders supporters in the Netherlands, the Bolsonaro supporters in Brazil, and you go around the horn, virtually everywhere, those populist, nationalist, Christian conservatives are pro-Israel, almost lockstep, pro-Israel in this war. 0.59
00:36:04.000 And yet somehow in America, things are a lot more mixed.
00:36:07.000 And again, I'm not saying that as a criticism at all.
00:36:09.000 It's something I've been thinking about.
00:36:10.000 Like, what is it?
00:36:11.000 What is it that young Americans are seeing that the rest of the world isn't seeing?
00:36:15.000 And I believe that the answer is right there in your focus group.
00:36:19.000 In all those other countries I mentioned, their tax dollars are not going to Israel in the form of aid.
00:36:25.000 And the fact that aid was the most popular answer in your word association at the beginning there really speaks to the fact that the entire relationship of America giving foreign aid, military aid to Israel, is it clouds the vision of young Americans about what they're seeing in the Israel conflict.
00:36:44.000 It ends up becoming what the Israel issue is all about, their own tax dollars.
00:36:48.000 And the second issue that I think is part of this mix is that there are organizations in America, the vast majority of American Jews are progressive left liberals, what we used to call liberals.
00:37:02.000 They're part of the progressive left.
00:37:06.000 By polling, over 70% of American Jews identify with the left.
00:37:11.000 And what that means is that if I'm a young Christian conservative in America, unfortunately, a lot of the leading Jewish organizations and the Jewish establishments are on the other side of the issues that I care about most.
00:37:27.000 Organizations like the ADL, who, in my opinion, promote anti-Semitism more than they fight it, end up demonizing anyone who is out of step with their viewpoints.
00:37:38.000 Now, let me also say parenthetically, that that same Jewish establishment is also increasingly over the last few decades uncomfortable with the state of Israel because Israel has become more right-wing, more religiously observant, more faithful to God.
00:37:53.000 And Israel hasn't had a left-wing prime minister in over 20 years, and we're not going to have one for a while.
00:37:58.000 Young Israelis are more conservative than their parents and grandparents were. 0.53
00:38:04.000 But that, I think the combination of the Jewish establishment in the United States and the aid issue end up dominating the thoughts about Israel of young American conservatives.
00:38:17.000 Now, the flip side to all of this is that it is worthwhile.
00:38:21.000 It's important for young American conservatives, even as they have these issues, to also think about what is it that their counterparts around the world are seeing that make them pro-Israel.
00:38:33.000 Because for the rest of the world, for the rest of the conservative, Christian, populist, nationalist world, they see in Israel a nation state that is Jewish, that is based on the Judeo-Christian civilization, that is fighting against an Islam that is trying to destroy it, and that the Red-Green Alliance's number one enemy is the state of Israel. 0.86
00:38:57.000 They see that war, and it's obvious to them to back Israel. 0.90
00:39:01.000 Got a dash.
00:39:02.000 Rabbi Willicki, it's well said.
00:39:04.000 The young students that we talked to, they were not anti-Israel.
00:39:07.000 They were Israel fatigued.
00:39:09.000 We have to be on team civilization.
00:39:11.000 We're up against the Marxists and the Islamists to stand for the West. 0.95
00:39:15.000 Rabbi Willicki, thank you so much.
00:39:16.000 Thanks so much for listening.
00:39:17.000 Everybody, email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:39:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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