00:00:09.000Special treat for you today, an exclusive interview with Roger Stone, who just had his sentence commuted by President Trump.
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00:02:03.000Roger, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:05.000Charlie, I'm really very glad to be here.
00:02:08.000And right off the top, I have to tell you that I really appreciate the fact that you were among a handful of conservatives who were willing to go to bat when you saw the epic injustice in my situation.
00:02:20.000I mean, it is clear to any reasonable person who will look that I was targeted for strictly political reasons, because I had a 40-year relationship with the president, because I recognized as early as 1988 that he had the capacity to not only be a great candidate for president, but actually be a great president because of his courage and his independence and his guile.
00:02:45.000I thought he would be a terrific candidate and a terrific president.
00:02:48.000And he has more than fulfilled my expectations in that regard.
00:02:52.000He's a man of enormous stamina, enormous courage.
00:02:55.000He's very bold, and he's interested in results.
00:02:59.000And unlike any other president in recent time, he doesn't answer to any special interests.
00:03:05.000This guy answers only to the American people, not Wall Street, not the oil and gas industry, not banking, not insurance, not the deep state, not the defense contractors, but only the American people.
00:03:19.000And it brought us not only the strongest economy in our history, but he rebuilt our military, and he continues to fight to keep our borders secure.
00:03:29.000The central question for 2020 to me is an obvious one.
00:03:33.000Who better now to rebuild our economy?
00:03:35.000A man who's already proven that he knows exactly how to do it, or a man whose prescription will make the patient even sicker.
00:03:43.000It's pretty obvious to me that Trump knows precisely how to rebuild the economy.
00:03:46.000In fact, because his underlying policies of cutting taxes and regulation and cutting better trade deals for America is already in place, the economy is already on its way back despite COVID-19.
00:04:02.000But it really was a handful of people who had the courage to, you know, to call the left out, to call the deep state out, and to criticize what was being done to me because I was being lynched.
00:05:46.000He changed that from Russian intelligence officers known to us to a known Russian intelligence officer, making it sound like I willfully contacted somebody that I knew was in Russian intelligence, not the fact.
00:06:02.000That guy Rosenstein, he is the slimiest of the swamp creatures.
00:06:05.000He's responsible for this entire hoax.
00:06:08.000And now we have Andrew Weissman saying, oh, we've got to drag Stone in front of the grand jury.
00:06:14.000And the whole meme here, which has to be addressed, is, let me be as clear as I can.
00:06:19.000It is not a question of my possessing any knowledge or evidence of any misconduct or wrongdoing by the president, which I withheld in an effort to cover up for him and got a commutation of my sentence in return.
00:06:36.000What I have said on the record over and over, which my lawyers will attest to, is that I was approached by the special counsel and they solicited me to tell lies about the president, to bear falsehood against the president, to re-remember.
00:06:52.000Now, sure, they were very clever in the way they couched it.
00:06:55.000It's time for your client to come clean.
00:07:27.000If they had any evidence of Russian collusion or coordinating with the Russian state to obtain and disseminate emails or any connection with WikiLeaks in which there was evidence of that, they would have charged me with it.
00:07:42.000They had every scrap of evidence in my possession.
00:07:46.000They went through all my cell phones, all my electronic devices, my computer, my laptop.
00:07:52.000They had full access to all my paper records.
00:07:55.000And all they could do was to hoke up this really thin lied to Congress indictment, an indictment in which I've continued to argue that none of the misstatements that I made to Congress were either material and therefore they had no intent.
00:08:29.000I don't possess any information detrimental to the president.
00:08:33.000And when Rick Gates, Paul Manafort's former bagman, and he must be very strong because those bags were heavy, and Michael Cohen, the turncoat, who was convicted of multiple financial crimes, came forward and said they overheard telephone conversations between myself and candidate Trump, in which we discussed WikiLeaks.
00:08:55.000There's no corroboration of that anywhere.
00:08:58.000Gates said he heard it in a moving car in an SUV, that there were two Secret Service agents present in early August, but there's no telephone record and there's no evidence of testimony by the Secret Service agents.
00:09:11.000So it is the corroborated, plea bargain-induced testimony of a convict.
00:09:19.000In the case of Michael Cohen, he first said the conversation happened in July, and he said that Stone told Trump Wikileaks will soon be dumping a bunch of data.
00:09:30.000So theoretically, it would have been before the Democratic primary.
00:09:34.000But then he changed his story and said, no, it was in August, just before the Republican convention.
00:09:40.000Well, Wikileaks didn't dump any information in August, nor September, nor until the beginning of October.
00:10:16.000They're out for blood, and they have me in mind.
00:10:20.000Well, Roger, one of the reasons why I was thrilled to see the president commute your sentence, and I tweeted multiple times in favor of that.
00:10:27.000I tweeted for a pardon, just so we're clear, but I'll take a commutation, is because I understood exactly what they were trying to do to you.
00:10:37.000It's a Soviet-style show trial where they wanted to try to make an example out of anyone that dares support this president, goes against a ruling class and the elites.
00:10:47.000And they said, well, here's one guy that we really have a disdain for.
00:10:52.000And they decided to try to punish you and make a public example of that.
00:10:57.000What is it, 23 FBI agents that looked like they could have staged a coup in a Central American country showed up at your doorstep at 6 a.m. and CNN happened to be there.
00:11:08.000And this is something that bothered me at such a fundamental level where I started to speak out more forcefully and more publicly when I saw, Roger, the jury forewoman for your trial was an individual that I believe shared social media posts against you and against the president and lied on her jury form.
00:11:57.000We had you on our podcast previously, and you were so careful with what you could say and couldn't say because of what the judge disallowed you from making your own case publicly.
00:12:06.000Roger, can you walk us through that experience?
00:12:09.000Yeah, I mean, the trial has a number of flaws with it.
00:12:12.000To begin with, the judge rules for the government in a number of pretrial motions where she limits my avenues of defense.
00:12:20.000So, for example, the judge ruled that I could not raise the issue of the misconduct of the special counsel, the Department of Justice, the FBI, or any member of Congress.
00:12:31.000Had this ruling been in place in Judge Flynn's case, we still wouldn't know how those entities sabotaged him, set him up for a political and baseless prosecution.
00:12:42.000That's unconstitutional, by the way, under Kyles v. Whitley, but that didn't stop the judge.
00:12:48.000She also ruled that I could not challenge the underlying premise of my indictment, that the Russians hacked the DNC and gave the information to WikiLeaks.
00:12:57.000Now, that's an assertion by the Department of Justice.
00:13:00.000It's an assertion by the intelligence agencies.
00:13:05.000There's more forensic evidence to the contrary.
00:13:08.000And I was prepared to put up expert testimony and forensic evidence to prove that that didn't happen.
00:13:15.000But that was really not allowed because at that juncture, the three legs of Robert Mueller's stool, two of them had already been removed.
00:13:22.000The Steele dossier had been exposed as a fraud.
00:13:26.000And the Russian troll case had turned out to be a dud.
00:13:29.000So now we're down to one final falsehood.
00:13:32.000The Russians hacked the DNC, gave the information to WikiLeaks, and the information theoretically was passed from Wikileaks to the Trump campaign.
00:13:40.000The problem is there was no evidence presented at my trial.
00:13:43.000No evidence exists that I ever had either possession of or knowledge of the Wikileaks disclosures in terms of either their source or their content prior to them being published.
00:13:58.000I mean, the sad truth here is that all I did was to take a tip, which was very general in scope, that the WikiLeaks material was significant, that it would cause an uproar because it really did not hold Hillary and her campaign in the best light, and that it would come in October.
00:14:16.000I'm sorry, regardless of what the outcome of my trial was, Randy Credico was the source who told me that.
00:14:22.000Jerry Corsi was not the source who told me that.
00:14:25.000They found that that was not the case, but Credico perjured himself on the stand, as did every witness in this case.
00:14:34.000It was outrageous to kind of sit there and see each one of them lie.
00:14:38.000The most stunning one, I must tell you, was Steve Bannon, because months after the trial, the House Intelligence Committee released his sworn testimony.
00:14:48.000And then when you put it side by side with his testimony in my trial, it's inescapable.
00:14:54.000He either perjured himself at my trial or he perjured himself in the House Intelligence Committee.
00:15:00.000Now, he told the House Intelligence Committee that he never discussed Wikileaks or Julian Assange with me at all.
00:15:08.000Then at my trial, he said we discussed it in virtually every conversation we had in 2016 and that he considered me the campaign's access point to WikiLeaks.
00:15:18.000Well, if that's true, I don't know it.
00:15:20.000So I don't know whether he was threatened.
00:15:23.000I don't know the circumstances, but I was stunned when he said that.
00:15:28.000This is, it's like a nightmare where you realize the makeup of the jury.
00:15:33.000Not a single Republican, not a single military veteran, not a single registered independent, not a single conservative, not a single evangelical Christian.
00:15:44.000But it could have been the Clinton-Obama administration alumni reunion.
00:15:52.000It was overwhelmingly people from previous Democratic administrations, not civil servants, but political appointees.
00:16:00.000You had people with ties to the Justice Department, people with ties to the FBI.
00:16:05.000You had Democratic activists like the jury for woman.
00:16:08.000The other juror who was questioned by the judge was active in the campaigns of Jill Stein and then Beto O'Rourke.
00:16:16.000He doesn't sound terribly objective to me.
00:16:18.000He had donated to Beto Rourke's presidential campaign.
00:16:21.000So he's already against the president.
00:16:23.000Now, the judge held that opposition to Donald Trump was not a reason to be struck from the jury, as if my trial was not about politics.
00:16:35.000In fact, the chief prosecutor in my case, Jeannie Ree, represented Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation in the illegal email server and missing email case.
00:16:47.000Yet the judge said in her tongue-lashing about me and sentencing that that's what this case was about.
00:16:55.000Well, if that's true, then she should have been eliminated on the basis of a conflict of interest.
00:17:00.000In fact, she was working for Robert Mueller's law firm at the time.
00:17:04.000And by law, therefore, they had a joint conflict, but that was, of course, never raised.
00:17:15.000I did ask her to recuse herself after she praised the juror and the jury for doing a terrific job.
00:17:22.000Then we learned that there was juror corruption, but she wouldn't recuse herself from making the decision.
00:17:28.000And you'll like this one particularly.
00:17:30.000When we had a hearing and we learned that she had through 2019 posted attacks on me personally as well as the president.
00:17:40.000And on one occasion, she had actually linked to a story that outlined my indictment.
00:17:46.000Yet she said in jury questioning, her questionnaire is not public, and I'm not going to comment on that, but during the public portion of jury selection for deer, she said she didn't know what I'd been charged with and she wasn't familiar with me or she couldn't recollect who I was.
00:18:01.000Yet she linked to an article that featured my indictment.
00:18:05.000And when my lawyer sought to ask her about that, the judge stopped him and said, just because she linked to an article on Twitter doesn't mean she read it.
00:18:15.000I mean, that's how Kafka-esque this gets.
00:18:19.000When we tried to ask her about her comment that all supporters of the president were racists, the judge said there's no reason to believe that Ms. Hart knew that Roger Stone was an associate or supporter of the president prior to her being selected for this trial.
00:18:35.000Well, then she had to be living under a rock.
00:19:01.000And then some people started using the Wayback Machine and were able to find these various tweets, which during the jury selection and during the trial, it's not that we didn't look at every juror, which we're entitled to do, but these had to be on a private setting at that time because they did not readily come up.
00:19:21.000And therefore, when the judge ruled that my lawyers have an obligation to know this, first of all, under the law, they don't.
00:19:27.000They're entitled to believe that the juror is being honest, but they weren't available at that time.
00:19:32.000And then after the trial, she deleted them.
00:20:27.000And there was substantial misconduct by everybody in this trial.
00:20:31.000The prosecutors defrauded the court on several points, specifically insisting that they had evidence beyond the crowd strikes report that the DNC was hacked by the Russians.
00:20:43.000And I was prepared to produce the expert witnesses like Bill Binney and Ray McGovern and others with an NSA background or a CIA background who know the facts and could have presented forensic evidence to dispute that.
00:21:08.000So at the end, as you may or may not know, the judge sentenced me and the Bureau of Prisons was preparing to send me to a prison in Georgia.
00:21:20.000And they were prepared to do this in violation of their own DOJ Bureau of Prisons policy under which inmates convicted of nonviolent crimes are moved to home confinement.
00:21:35.000They were doing this despite the precedent because in every circuit, people in the same situation as I was had gotten the courts to order them either to home confinement or to a delay in their incarceration because of the uncertainties of COVID virus.
00:21:52.000The prison in question now has over, I think, 80 confirmed COVID virus cases and more outstanding tests.
00:22:04.000And then lastly, although I don't look at it, I'm 67 years old and I have a history of respiratory problems, including asthma, which I almost died of as an infant.
00:22:15.000So I would have been a sitting duck in jail.
00:22:17.000I don't think I would have lived to my appeal.
00:23:27.000It is a draining experience to be politically targeted like this.
00:23:31.000I could have made it go away by agreeing to lie, not by agreeing to uncover information I had against the president that would have led to his impeachment, but I was hiding because no such information exists.
00:23:47.000I could have lied, but then I couldn't live with myself.
00:23:51.000And I would not be in a position to change the course of history.
00:23:55.000Donald Trump, in my opinion, saved this country from hurtling over the cliff to globalism.
00:24:01.000He is the last thing standing between us and total, complete anarchy.
00:24:06.000What we see in the streets today is not peaceful democratic demonstration.
00:24:12.000It is a violent, well-organized, well-funded socialist revolution.
00:24:17.000These people want to overthrow our democratic institutions, our form of government, our U.S. Constitution, and all of our basic values and freedoms.
00:24:27.000What is the sense of tearing down statues of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln because they're racists?
00:25:56.000And in every twist and turn, he would go on his show and use it as a platform to keep Americans aware of what was being done behind the scenes to destroy me.
00:26:15.000And I will never forget what he's done for me and my family.
00:26:18.000Sean Hannity, who was great and really pounded away using his platform so people understood how outrageous this case was.
00:26:28.000Congressman Matt Gates from my home state of Florida, a great advocate who I know was out there when Kevin McCarthy and Elise Stefanik were arguing against any clemency for Roger Stone because it might cost the Republicans seats.
00:26:46.000I know that Matt Gates was standing tall, both privately and in public, on my behalf.
00:26:53.000Mark Levin, Mark Levin and I have never been friends.
00:27:07.000But nobody broke the case down against me better than Mark Levin on his radio show.
00:27:12.000And I really owe him a great debt of gratitude.
00:27:16.000Conservatives like Reverend Darrell Scott, Reverend Mark Burns, Reverend Franklin Graham, all many, many people in the evangelical Christian community, both African-American and not African-American, saw this injustice and called it out.
00:27:35.000Bernie Carrick, the former New York police commissioner, a great guy, gave me a huge amount of strategic advice because he's lived this nightmare and he understood it.
00:27:45.000My friend Kristen Davis, who went on CNN, went on MSNBC, went right into the lion's den and defended me fearlessly and effectively.
00:27:55.000Members of my family, of course, my wife, Nidia, my daughter, Audrey, my son, Scott, who through thick and thin, through my temper tantrums and through my ups and downs, you know, stuck with me and kept insisting this would all turn out all right.
00:28:09.000Now, I've told you that back in January, I had the opportunity to meet privately with Franklin Graham, Reverend Randy Coggins, a very dynamic young evangelist preacher, really a terrific guy, somebody I could call late at night who would really help me through the rough spots here and point me to places in the Bible where there were specific things that would give me solace.
00:28:32.000And I had an opportunity to meet with Reverend Graham.
00:28:35.000I'd seen his father, Franklin Graham, preach when I was 12 years old in a tent revival in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
00:28:41.000It's one of the most memorable things in my life.
00:28:44.000It was a dramatic, extraordinary experience.
00:28:47.000And I had met Reverend Graham's daughter, Sissy, on the Republican circuit when I was speaking, and she's a terrific person.
00:28:54.000And Reverend Graham was the one who told me that when I asked him if he would speak to the president on my behalf, he said, well, you know, I'll do what I can there, but there's a bigger solution here.
00:29:05.000And he said, it's time for you to reaffirm your belief in Jesus Christ.
00:30:18.000I knew that there were plans to ship me to a prison today.
00:30:22.000But I knew that God would provide, that he would protect me from those who would persecute me.
00:30:27.000And he did, because I believe that the president was guided by the Lord to do the right thing, just as he's guided in all his acts as president.
00:31:02.000They are already trying to censor us across every social media platform.
00:31:07.000Just before they were to execute me, they wanted to silence me while I was being lynched.
00:31:12.000So they banned me for life on Facebook and Instagram based on the entirely false allegation that I owned and manipulated 100 fake Facebook pages.
00:31:31.000The problem with it is it isn't accurate.
00:31:34.000I don't know that I have ever had a Facebook page in the name of any other person or even any person who doesn't really exist.
00:31:42.000I've never set up a Facebook page for a political organization that didn't actually exist.
00:31:49.000I do have pages for myself and my two blogs, The Stone Cold Truth and StoneZone.com, where I was prohibited from posting anything by Judge Jackson for the last 16 months.
00:32:01.000And I have pages for each one of my books, but, you know, they argue that it's about spreading falsehoods.
00:32:08.000So if they don't agree with the premise of your book, you're pushing false information.
00:32:17.000And Roger, it seems that the tech companies are a huge issue here.
00:32:21.000And the fact that you're not even allowed to have a Facebook or Instagram page is remarkable to me.
00:32:26.000When Instagram had a sticker yesterday that said mute white people, I tweeted this out, by the way, where I said, you're not allowed to have an Instagram page, but Instagram provides to young people a sticker that they can provide that literally says mute white people.
00:32:42.000I mean, it's just whoever's making the decisions there, let's just say they're incredible, you know, they're trying to divide our country in a variety of different ways.
00:33:16.000Now, the telephone companies are privately owned, but they're regulated.
00:33:20.000And these companies are privately owned.
00:33:22.000And I'm not a big fan of regulation, but I'm a bigger fan of free speech.
00:33:28.000I must tell you, we've gotten to a dangerous area.
00:33:31.000I've signed up on Parlor, and I must say I really like it because you have a sense of freedom.
00:33:35.000You know you're not going to be decapitated just because you're a Christian or a conservative or a libertarian or a Trump supporter or a non-liberal.
00:33:44.000And every once in a while, you know, some liberal will post something in opposition to what I write.
00:33:53.000But now Twitter has just descended into be a cesspool of hate.
00:33:57.000You know, my granddaughter gave birth to my first great-grandchild several months ago, a great-grandson, and the torrent of hateful email and text messages that she got via social media, wishing that her child be stillborn or accusing saying your child is the product of incest between you and your own grandfather, saying that they would murder her and the baby.
00:36:33.000Donald Trump is interested in the welfare of all Americans.
00:36:36.000He's interested in having a rising tide lift all boats.
00:36:41.000And he proved that in the way he revived our economy, rebuilt our military, and negotiated better trade deals so that we would have a job boom in this country and that everybody would have the opportunity and the promise of America.
00:36:53.000So it can't really be seen on a Republican-Democrat divide, other than to say that there are no Democrats in the outsider camp, or to the extent that they are, there are Bernie Sanders, who is a communist posing as a socialist and an outsider because he got slammed dunked twice by his own party.
00:37:12.000They will cheat this guy as many times as they need to, not because they don't agree with his underlying philosophy, but they recognize that he is too blunt.
00:37:20.000They don't need a candidate who comes right out and says, oh, by the way, I'm a communist.
00:37:24.000They need one who hides their communism and claims to be a moderate Democrat.
00:37:29.000The other problem here, I think the other opportunity is Joe Biden cannot pass for a civil rights advocate.
00:37:54.000He is the father of the failed war on drugs, which has been an ignominious failure.
00:38:01.000It has been a social, economic, and racist failure.
00:38:06.000We are incarcerating people who are not violent criminals for the first time nonviolent crime of possession of small amounts of drugs using these mandatory penalties where a judge has no discretion.
00:38:20.000So if you have a single mother with three children struggling to provide for them, working two jobs, but she's caught with a small amount of marijuana in her purse, putting her away for 25 years does not make sense.
00:39:21.000He's a sleazy dealmaker who has enriched himself and his family in every shady operation in Ukraine, in China.
00:39:30.000And when you look, you'll find a lot more.
00:39:32.000Also, back in Delaware, I'm going to disclose more about this, probably make some videos.
00:39:39.000Former Vice President Biden and his wife have this extraordinary habit of not paying their bills, of stiffing small business people, merchants, hairdressers, dentists, landscaping people, fencers,
00:39:55.000all these individual purveyors of small goods and services run up by the Bidens, then the Bidens stiff them on payment and dare these people, you know, who are small businessmen and women struggling to get by, dare them to sue, saying, you'll never get anywhere suing a U.S. senator.
00:40:12.000You'll never get anywhere suing a sitting vice president.
00:41:38.000That's not the guy you want running the finances of the country.
00:41:42.000You want somebody who plays by the rules as they're written.
00:41:45.000Now, if Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff and the rest of their ilk doesn't like the tax code as it's written, sponsor legislation to change it.
00:41:54.000But don't come back after the fact and say, oh, Trump took a giant tax deduction.
00:42:04.000It outrages me that they keep making insinuations about the president's tax returns when they know nothing about it and they have no evidence of wrongdoing.
00:42:29.000A guy named Gerald Lefcourt pops up and says New York State can now indict Roger Stone.
00:42:36.000Now, Gerald Lefcourt's a very interesting guy.
00:42:38.000He's the attorney who got the state of Florida to give Jeffrey Epstein a break on his first round of child exploitation and child sex trafficking, where Jeffrey Epstein was simply charged with one count of solicitation so that he could immediately get out of jail and go right back to exploiting and sex trafficking and raping children.
00:42:59.000So Mr. Lefcourt's quite a sponsor for that notion.
00:43:03.000Now we have two other fuzzy-headed liberal law professors who don't know my case.
00:43:08.000And I asked them, do you think that had the ruthless Andrew Weissman and the rest of Mueller's incredibly ruthless henchmen and women, including this bumbling, arrogant bully, Aaron Zelinsky, who went before the House Judiciary Committee in an extraordinary blend of hearsay, perjury, and obfuscation, kept insisting that he'd been pressured to give me a special treatment when I didn't get special treatment.
00:43:39.000The sentencing guidelines for the crimes I was wrongly convicted of were 18 months.
00:44:14.000They had to manufacture the ones that they have.
00:44:16.000So this idea that we can now look for this, we can look for that, we can look for this, which is the theme of the Atlantic piece, believe me, had they been able to charge me for any of those crimes, I would have been charged.
00:44:27.000Now, are they so vengeful that they may do this if a Democrat is elected president?
00:44:43.000Yet another reason why our president has to be re-elected.
00:44:46.000I have no doubt, by the way, that these very same people will seek to prosecute our president on some trumped up, pardon the expression, but some phony charge.
00:44:56.000There's no doubt that the attorneys at the Southern District of New York have been digging deeply into the president's business past, looking for something, anything, to try to bring him down.
00:45:08.000So it is even more important that this reign of terror be ended with the reelection of the president.
00:45:14.000And this time, perhaps he will clean out the Justice Department.
00:45:19.000Because I believe once you get beyond the top level, and even at the top level, there are too many Obama holdovers.
00:45:26.000Right here in our home state of Florida, there is a prosecutor, a U.S. attorney for Central Florida that covers the area of Seminole and Orange counties, which is the Orlando area, who's going out of way to indict Trump supporters on essentially fabricated charges.
00:46:15.000She was preaching hatred of our president.
00:46:18.000She should have been removed immediately.
00:46:19.000The crime was leaving her there as long as we did.
00:46:23.000So should the president be re-elected, I hope that he will clean house and start fresh with an entirely new team of people who are not swamp creatures.
00:46:32.000Yeah, and just so the audience knows what was being argued, Joshua A. Geltzer argued in The Atlantic that you could be retried is basically what he was saying, just so that the audience is clear on it and that the commutation may be null and void if Trump carried it out to protect himself.
00:46:48.000I've never seen such mental and legal gymnastics, Roger, as this.
00:46:55.000I saw it just before I came on, and I'm actually here with one of my lawyers, and I said, this is really extraordinary.
00:47:02.000I mean, they just they come nine different ways to get at Roger Stone.
00:47:05.000First of all, believe me, if they could have indicted me for a number of these other crimes, they would have, but there is no evidence.
00:47:11.000And again, just to make sure we've covered this, there is no evidence or truth to the fact that I had and withheld any negative information or information of misconduct or illegal conduct by Donald Trump, the President of the United States, or Donald Trump, the candidate.
00:47:27.000When I said I refused to roll over on the president, I didn't mean that I was lying about something that happened to protect him in return for a commutation.
00:48:02.000I know of no misconduct by the president or candidate Trump, and I was hiding nothing.
00:48:08.000They were the ones who were fabricating testimony on the stand, and they did it repeatedly.
00:48:13.000Well, and I'll tell you, Roger, the reason they did this was because they were trying to cover up for the failed Mueller investigation.
00:48:19.000That's why they will not let go of this, because if they were to walk away from this, it would continue to invalidate the illegal, unconstitutional, and immoral special prosecutor that was the reason that you were looked into so aggressively.
00:48:36.000And Republicans never should have authorized that, yet they did.
00:48:40.000And look, because of it, we probably lost the House because of this appointment of Bob Mueller back in 2018.
00:48:47.000So, Roger, in closing, how can people assist you?
00:48:50.000I know you had a lot of legal bills and still do because they're still going after you.
00:48:54.000And any other thoughts that you have for our audience?
00:49:45.000I must either sue Facebook or the company that created the report that said I had 100 fake Facebook pages.
00:49:54.000By the way, this is the same company that was retained by the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee to produce a report about Russian troll farms and the use of bots.
00:50:06.000That report was just as phony as the report that they did on me.
00:50:11.000These two reports make the steel dossier look like the Bible when it comes to truth.
00:50:42.000And then lastly, as I indicated, this has been financially, completely debilitating.
00:50:48.000My wife and I are struggling, and we need help.
00:50:52.000So those who want to help us on that side, and really it's just basic expenses of rent and groceries, utilities, gasoline, some medical expenses.
00:51:22.000I will always keep insisting that the president is a great man who's done a great thing.
00:51:27.000It takes an enormous amount of courage.
00:51:29.000The president told me when he called, you know, a lot of people, he said, told me not to do this.
00:51:33.000A lot of people told me not to do this.
00:51:36.000But on the other hand, he said, you have a lot of really good friends because some very good people told me that I should do this, that it was the right thing to do.
00:51:43.000And I've decided that it is the right thing to do.
00:51:46.000He said the first lady was among those who agreed that it was the right thing to do.
00:52:31.000You know, anything I can do for you or for your organization, you know I'm there in a heartbeat.
00:52:37.000Well, you keep fighting, Roger, and fight against the bad guys that are trying to still make an example out of you.
00:52:43.000And so I was pleased to see the president do the right thing.
00:52:46.000I was disappointed more Republicans didn't come to your defense, but we're starting to see who the good guys are and who the weak guys are and the people that just pretend to be good.
00:53:53.000Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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