The Charlie Kirk Show - July 15, 2020


Roger Stone | An Interview With A Free Man


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Roger Stone joins Charlie to discuss his recent release from prison, his new life in the White House, and why he thinks Donald Trump should be the next president of the United States. He also talks about his new found freedom from prison and how he plans to run for president in 2020.

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00:01:09.000 Roger Stone on the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:01:11.000 Buckle up, everybody.
00:01:12.000 Here we go.
00:01:14.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:01:15.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campuses.
00:01:17.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:01:21.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:01:24.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:01:25.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:01:26.000 His spirit, his love of this country.
00:01:28.000 He's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:34.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
00:01:43.000 That's why we are here.
00:01:46.000 Hey, everybody.
00:01:47.000 We have a special guest here on the Charlie Kirk Show, someone that I have been advocating for his freedom for quite a while now.
00:01:55.000 And President Trump did the right thing and commuted his sentence.
00:02:00.000 None other than Roger Stone.
00:02:03.000 Roger, welcome back to the Charlie Kirk Show.
00:02:05.000 Charlie, I'm really very glad to be here.
00:02:08.000 And right off the top, I have to tell you that I really appreciate the fact that you were among a handful of conservatives who were willing to go to bat when you saw the epic injustice in my situation.
00:02:20.000 I mean, it is clear to any reasonable person who will look that I was targeted for strictly political reasons, because I had a 40-year relationship with the president, because I recognized as early as 1988 that he had the capacity to not only be a great candidate for president, but actually be a great president because of his courage and his independence and his guile.
00:02:45.000 I thought he would be a terrific candidate and a terrific president.
00:02:48.000 And he has more than fulfilled my expectations in that regard.
00:02:52.000 He's a man of enormous stamina, enormous courage.
00:02:55.000 He's very bold, and he's interested in results.
00:02:57.000 He's interested in what works.
00:02:59.000 And unlike any other president in recent time, he doesn't answer to any special interests.
00:03:05.000 This guy answers only to the American people, not Wall Street, not the oil and gas industry, not banking, not insurance, not the deep state, not the defense contractors, but only the American people.
00:03:17.000 It's very refreshing.
00:03:19.000 And it brought us not only the strongest economy in our history, but he rebuilt our military, and he continues to fight to keep our borders secure.
00:03:29.000 The central question for 2020 to me is an obvious one.
00:03:33.000 Who better now to rebuild our economy?
00:03:35.000 A man who's already proven that he knows exactly how to do it, or a man whose prescription will make the patient even sicker.
00:03:43.000 It's pretty obvious to me that Trump knows precisely how to rebuild the economy.
00:03:46.000 In fact, because his underlying policies of cutting taxes and regulation and cutting better trade deals for America is already in place, the economy is already on its way back despite COVID-19.
00:03:59.000 Look at these last two job reports.
00:04:00.000 They're off the charts.
00:04:02.000 But it really was a handful of people who had the courage to, you know, to call the left out, to call the deep state out, and to criticize what was being done to me because I was being lynched.
00:04:14.000 And it continues to this day.
00:04:16.000 You have Robert Mueller out in an op-ed in the Washington Post recycling the same old falsehood.
00:04:24.000 No, Bob, I'm sorry, but I was not in touch with a Russian intelligence officers.
00:04:29.000 I was in touch with some guy on Twitter direct messages, and that exchange was entirely released by me to the media in 2017.
00:04:40.000 The content of it is entirely benign.
00:04:43.000 It has no evidence of collusion or collaboration.
00:04:47.000 And it happened after, long after, the WikiLeaks had released all of his documents.
00:04:53.000 So chronologically, collusion would be impossible.
00:04:57.000 And while we're at it, there is no evidence that Gooseford 2.0, that persona, you say it's a Russian intelligence asset.
00:05:05.000 There's a lot more forensic evidence that indicates that it's an American intelligence asset.
00:05:10.000 I've written about this extensively at the Stone Cold Truth.
00:05:13.000 At a minimum, it is a disputed matter, but these folks believe just because John Brennan says something is true, that makes it true.
00:05:20.000 Like the steel dossier is real.
00:05:23.000 That makes it real.
00:05:24.000 It doesn't work that way.
00:05:25.000 So they recycle this.
00:05:27.000 Then the best part of this is Rod Rosenstein jumps on.
00:05:30.000 He takes a paragraph from Mueller's op-ed, but then he very deceptively edits it.
00:05:36.000 And he says, Stone was in touch with a known Russian intelligence officer, officers.
00:05:44.000 And then he changes that.
00:05:46.000 He changed that from Russian intelligence officers known to us to a known Russian intelligence officer, making it sound like I willfully contacted somebody that I knew was in Russian intelligence, not the fact.
00:06:02.000 That guy Rosenstein, he is the slimiest of the swamp creatures.
00:06:05.000 He's responsible for this entire hoax.
00:06:08.000 And now we have Andrew Weissman saying, oh, we've got to drag Stone in front of the grand jury.
00:06:14.000 And the whole meme here, which has to be addressed, is, let me be as clear as I can.
00:06:19.000 It is not a question of my possessing any knowledge or evidence of any misconduct or wrongdoing by the president, which I withheld in an effort to cover up for him and got a commutation of my sentence in return.
00:06:34.000 I never said anything of the kind.
00:06:36.000 What I have said on the record over and over, which my lawyers will attest to, is that I was approached by the special counsel and they solicited me to tell lies about the president, to bear falsehood against the president, to re-remember.
00:06:52.000 Now, sure, they were very clever in the way they couched it.
00:06:55.000 It's time for your client to come clean.
00:06:57.000 It's time for your client to confess.
00:07:00.000 It's time for your client to re-remember.
00:07:02.000 But the intent was clear.
00:07:04.000 And I said, no, absolutely not.
00:07:07.000 So right now, the left, led by Howard Feynman, who texts me and says he's not doing it.
00:07:12.000 And then I read what he's saying.
00:07:14.000 And he's out there implying constantly that I'm hiding.
00:07:17.000 I had nothing to hide.
00:07:19.000 Every fuzzy-headed leftwood law professor in the country is now saying Stone can be retried for this, that, and the other thing.
00:07:26.000 Let's be clear.
00:07:27.000 If they had any evidence of Russian collusion or coordinating with the Russian state to obtain and disseminate emails or any connection with WikiLeaks in which there was evidence of that, they would have charged me with it.
00:07:42.000 They had every scrap of evidence in my possession.
00:07:46.000 They went through all my cell phones, all my electronic devices, my computer, my laptop.
00:07:52.000 They had full access to all my paper records.
00:07:55.000 And all they could do was to hoke up this really thin lied to Congress indictment, an indictment in which I've continued to argue that none of the misstatements that I made to Congress were either material and therefore they had no intent.
00:08:13.000 There was no reason to lie.
00:08:15.000 None of the misstatements hid an underlying crime.
00:08:18.000 This was the best Andrew Weiss could come up with.
00:08:21.000 But now he's saying, let's drag Stone in front of the grand jury and we can get to the bottom of the Russian collusion hoax.
00:08:27.000 It's a hoax.
00:08:28.000 There is no more.
00:08:29.000 I don't possess any information detrimental to the president.
00:08:33.000 And when Rick Gates, Paul Manafort's former bagman, and he must be very strong because those bags were heavy, and Michael Cohen, the turncoat, who was convicted of multiple financial crimes, came forward and said they overheard telephone conversations between myself and candidate Trump, in which we discussed WikiLeaks.
00:08:55.000 There's no corroboration of that anywhere.
00:08:58.000 Gates said he heard it in a moving car in an SUV, that there were two Secret Service agents present in early August, but there's no telephone record and there's no evidence of testimony by the Secret Service agents.
00:09:11.000 So it is the corroborated, plea bargain-induced testimony of a convict.
00:09:19.000 In the case of Michael Cohen, he first said the conversation happened in July, and he said that Stone told Trump Wikileaks will soon be dumping a bunch of data.
00:09:30.000 So theoretically, it would have been before the Democratic primary.
00:09:34.000 But then he changed his story and said, no, it was in August, just before the Republican convention.
00:09:40.000 Well, Wikileaks didn't dump any information in August, nor September, nor until the beginning of October.
00:09:47.000 Again, no witnesses.
00:09:48.000 The female secretary said, came into the room and said, you know, Mr. Stone, Roger Stone's on line one.
00:09:55.000 No corroboration from her.
00:09:57.000 That's because neither one of these conversations ever happened.
00:10:01.000 I said that under oath to the House Intelligence Committee.
00:10:04.000 The president said it in his written answers under oath to Robert Mueller.
00:10:08.000 There's no evidence to the contrary because both of us are telling the truth.
00:10:12.000 But the truth doesn't matter to the crazed left.
00:10:14.000 These people are hysterical.
00:10:16.000 They're out for blood, and they have me in mind.
00:10:20.000 Well, Roger, one of the reasons why I was thrilled to see the president commute your sentence, and I tweeted multiple times in favor of that.
00:10:27.000 I tweeted for a pardon, just so we're clear, but I'll take a commutation, is because I understood exactly what they were trying to do to you.
00:10:35.000 It was a show trial.
00:10:37.000 It's a Soviet-style show trial where they wanted to try to make an example out of anyone that dares support this president, goes against a ruling class and the elites.
00:10:47.000 And they said, well, here's one guy that we really have a disdain for.
00:10:52.000 And they decided to try to punish you and make a public example of that.
00:10:57.000 What is it, 23 FBI agents that looked like they could have staged a coup in a Central American country showed up at your doorstep at 6 a.m. and CNN happened to be there.
00:11:06.000 And then it went to the trial.
00:11:08.000 And this is something that bothered me at such a fundamental level where I started to speak out more forcefully and more publicly when I saw, Roger, the jury forewoman for your trial was an individual that I believe shared social media posts against you and against the president and lied on her jury form. 0.80
00:11:31.000 That is banana republic stuff.
00:11:33.000 I don't care if some individual says, I don't like Roger Stone.
00:11:37.000 Completely irrelevant.
00:11:39.000 Every person deserves a fair trial in this country.
00:11:42.000 And where was the ACLU?
00:11:43.000 Where is the American Civil Liberties Union?
00:11:46.000 They're out there arguing for fair trial for Boston bomber, yet they were silent, Roger, when it came to your trial.
00:11:53.000 That was rigged with a judge that wanted to muffle you and silence you.
00:11:56.000 You know, I got a kick out of it.
00:11:57.000 We had you on our podcast previously, and you were so careful with what you could say and couldn't say because of what the judge disallowed you from making your own case publicly.
00:12:06.000 Roger, can you walk us through that experience?
00:12:09.000 Yeah, I mean, the trial has a number of flaws with it.
00:12:12.000 To begin with, the judge rules for the government in a number of pretrial motions where she limits my avenues of defense.
00:12:20.000 So, for example, the judge ruled that I could not raise the issue of the misconduct of the special counsel, the Department of Justice, the FBI, or any member of Congress.
00:12:31.000 Had this ruling been in place in Judge Flynn's case, we still wouldn't know how those entities sabotaged him, set him up for a political and baseless prosecution.
00:12:42.000 That's unconstitutional, by the way, under Kyles v. Whitley, but that didn't stop the judge.
00:12:48.000 She also ruled that I could not challenge the underlying premise of my indictment, that the Russians hacked the DNC and gave the information to WikiLeaks.
00:12:57.000 Now, that's an assertion by the Department of Justice.
00:13:00.000 It's an assertion by the intelligence agencies.
00:13:03.000 It hasn't been tried in any court.
00:13:05.000 There's more forensic evidence to the contrary.
00:13:08.000 And I was prepared to put up expert testimony and forensic evidence to prove that that didn't happen.
00:13:15.000 But that was really not allowed because at that juncture, the three legs of Robert Mueller's stool, two of them had already been removed.
00:13:22.000 The Steele dossier had been exposed as a fraud.
00:13:26.000 And the Russian troll case had turned out to be a dud.
00:13:29.000 So now we're down to one final falsehood.
00:13:32.000 The Russians hacked the DNC, gave the information to WikiLeaks, and the information theoretically was passed from Wikileaks to the Trump campaign.
00:13:40.000 The problem is there was no evidence presented at my trial.
00:13:43.000 No evidence exists that I ever had either possession of or knowledge of the Wikileaks disclosures in terms of either their source or their content prior to them being published.
00:13:57.000 And I never claimed I did.
00:13:58.000 I mean, the sad truth here is that all I did was to take a tip, which was very general in scope, that the WikiLeaks material was significant, that it would cause an uproar because it really did not hold Hillary and her campaign in the best light, and that it would come in October.
00:14:16.000 I'm sorry, regardless of what the outcome of my trial was, Randy Credico was the source who told me that.
00:14:22.000 Jerry Corsi was not the source who told me that.
00:14:25.000 They found that that was not the case, but Credico perjured himself on the stand, as did every witness in this case.
00:14:34.000 It was outrageous to kind of sit there and see each one of them lie.
00:14:38.000 The most stunning one, I must tell you, was Steve Bannon, because months after the trial, the House Intelligence Committee released his sworn testimony.
00:14:48.000 And then when you put it side by side with his testimony in my trial, it's inescapable.
00:14:54.000 He either perjured himself at my trial or he perjured himself in the House Intelligence Committee.
00:15:00.000 Now, he told the House Intelligence Committee that he never discussed Wikileaks or Julian Assange with me at all.
00:15:07.000 That's the truth.
00:15:08.000 Then at my trial, he said we discussed it in virtually every conversation we had in 2016 and that he considered me the campaign's access point to WikiLeaks.
00:15:18.000 Well, if that's true, I don't know it.
00:15:20.000 So I don't know whether he was threatened.
00:15:23.000 I don't know the circumstances, but I was stunned when he said that.
00:15:28.000 This is, it's like a nightmare where you realize the makeup of the jury.
00:15:33.000 Not a single Republican, not a single military veteran, not a single registered independent, not a single conservative, not a single evangelical Christian.
00:15:44.000 But it could have been the Clinton-Obama administration alumni reunion.
00:15:52.000 It was overwhelmingly people from previous Democratic administrations, not civil servants, but political appointees.
00:16:00.000 You had people with ties to the Justice Department, people with ties to the FBI.
00:16:05.000 You had Democratic activists like the jury for woman.
00:16:08.000 The other juror who was questioned by the judge was active in the campaigns of Jill Stein and then Beto O'Rourke.
00:16:16.000 He doesn't sound terribly objective to me.
00:16:18.000 He had donated to Beto Rourke's presidential campaign.
00:16:21.000 So he's already against the president.
00:16:23.000 Now, the judge held that opposition to Donald Trump was not a reason to be struck from the jury, as if my trial was not about politics.
00:16:32.000 But that's exactly what it was.
00:16:35.000 In fact, the chief prosecutor in my case, Jeannie Ree, represented Hillary Clinton and the Clinton Foundation in the illegal email server and missing email case.
00:16:47.000 Yet the judge said in her tongue-lashing about me and sentencing that that's what this case was about.
00:16:55.000 Well, if that's true, then she should have been eliminated on the basis of a conflict of interest.
00:17:00.000 In fact, she was working for Robert Mueller's law firm at the time.
00:17:04.000 And by law, therefore, they had a joint conflict, but that was, of course, never raised.
00:17:11.000 I did move for a change of venue.
00:17:13.000 That was rejected by the judge.
00:17:15.000 I did ask her to recuse herself after she praised the juror and the jury for doing a terrific job.
00:17:22.000 Then we learned that there was juror corruption, but she wouldn't recuse herself from making the decision.
00:17:28.000 And you'll like this one particularly.
00:17:30.000 When we had a hearing and we learned that she had through 2019 posted attacks on me personally as well as the president.
00:17:40.000 And on one occasion, she had actually linked to a story that outlined my indictment.
00:17:46.000 Yet she said in jury questioning, her questionnaire is not public, and I'm not going to comment on that, but during the public portion of jury selection for deer, she said she didn't know what I'd been charged with and she wasn't familiar with me or she couldn't recollect who I was.
00:18:01.000 Yet she linked to an article that featured my indictment.
00:18:05.000 And when my lawyer sought to ask her about that, the judge stopped him and said, just because she linked to an article on Twitter doesn't mean she read it.
00:18:15.000 I mean, that's how Kafka-esque this gets.
00:18:19.000 When we tried to ask her about her comment that all supporters of the president were racists, the judge said there's no reason to believe that Ms. Hart knew that Roger Stone was an associate or supporter of the president prior to her being selected for this trial.
00:18:35.000 Well, then she had to be living under a rock.
00:18:38.000 Well, and I want to zero in on this.
00:18:41.000 This is a juror that you're talking about.
00:18:43.000 This was someone who was the for woman. 0.98
00:18:46.000 And we only were able to talk about her, which otherwise would have been a crime because she outed herself. 0.72
00:18:53.000 Is that correct, Roger?
00:18:54.000 She wrote an op-ed.
00:18:55.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.95
00:18:56.000 She did an op-ed for CNN. 1.00
00:18:58.000 That made her name known.
00:19:01.000 And then some people started using the Wayback Machine and were able to find these various tweets, which during the jury selection and during the trial, it's not that we didn't look at every juror, which we're entitled to do, but these had to be on a private setting at that time because they did not readily come up.
00:19:21.000 And therefore, when the judge ruled that my lawyers have an obligation to know this, first of all, under the law, they don't.
00:19:27.000 They're entitled to believe that the juror is being honest, but they weren't available at that time.
00:19:32.000 And then after the trial, she deleted them.
00:19:35.000 So she had a Facebook page.
00:19:38.000 Her MO was to post something on Facebook and then take the Facebook link and post it on Twitter.
00:19:43.000 She did that repeatedly.
00:19:45.000 But at the end of the trial, she deleted both her Twitter feed and her Facebook page, which she had had since 2008.
00:19:52.000 And when asked by my lawyer why she did that, she said, well, I just wanted to take a break from social media.
00:19:57.000 Well, people who take a break don't close their page.
00:20:00.000 They just suspend it.
00:20:02.000 Or they just stop posting and looking at it.
00:20:04.000 But in this case, she deleted everything.
00:20:07.000 When we asked Judge Jackson for permission to subpoena that information from Twitter or Facebook, it was denied.
00:20:13.000 I think that's called a cover-up.
00:20:15.000 I believe that's what it's called.
00:20:17.000 So no person in their right mind can believe that I had a fair trial.
00:20:22.000 Tired of reading on social media.
00:20:24.000 Stone was convicted by a jury of his peers.
00:20:26.000 I wasn't.
00:20:27.000 And there was substantial misconduct by everybody in this trial.
00:20:31.000 The prosecutors defrauded the court on several points, specifically insisting that they had evidence beyond the crowd strikes report that the DNC was hacked by the Russians.
00:20:41.000 That is not actually possible.
00:20:43.000 And I was prepared to produce the expert witnesses like Bill Binney and Ray McGovern and others with an NSA background or a CIA background who know the facts and could have presented forensic evidence to dispute that.
00:20:58.000 That was, as I said earlier, denied.
00:21:00.000 So, no, it was a Soviet-style show trial.
00:21:03.000 It wasn't a trial.
00:21:04.000 It was a lynching.
00:21:06.000 And, you know, it never ends.
00:21:08.000 So at the end, as you may or may not know, the judge sentenced me and the Bureau of Prisons was preparing to send me to a prison in Georgia.
00:21:20.000 And they were prepared to do this in violation of their own DOJ Bureau of Prisons policy under which inmates convicted of nonviolent crimes are moved to home confinement.
00:21:35.000 They were doing this despite the precedent because in every circuit, people in the same situation as I was had gotten the courts to order them either to home confinement or to a delay in their incarceration because of the uncertainties of COVID virus.
00:21:52.000 The prison in question now has over, I think, 80 confirmed COVID virus cases and more outstanding tests.
00:22:02.000 The judge insisted there were none.
00:22:04.000 And then lastly, although I don't look at it, I'm 67 years old and I have a history of respiratory problems, including asthma, which I almost died of as an infant.
00:22:15.000 So I would have been a sitting duck in jail.
00:22:17.000 I don't think I would have lived to my appeal.
00:22:19.000 That was the exact point.
00:22:21.000 And I think this is one of the major reasons why the president felt compelled as in a humanitarian act of mercy to commute my sentence.
00:22:30.000 I think he knew it was a death sentence.
00:22:33.000 He very much wants me to pursue my appeal and win exoneration.
00:22:38.000 I would like to do that.
00:22:39.000 But I learned only yesterday that if the appeals court does award me a new trial, it would be before Judge Jackson.
00:22:47.000 Once again, I don't believe that she can be objective.
00:22:51.000 She made that pretty clear in her speech at the end of my trial.
00:22:55.000 So it's a legal conundrum I have to study and make a decision on.
00:23:00.000 The president didn't pardon me specifically so I could fight on, which I'm prepared to do, but it's draining.
00:23:08.000 It's financially draining.
00:23:09.000 As you know, I've lost everything.
00:23:11.000 I had to borrow a computer to do this broadcast because my computer finally gave up.
00:23:18.000 This is the computer, by the way, that the FBI smashed and took and returned to me.
00:23:23.000 So God knows what's in it.
00:23:27.000 It is a draining experience to be politically targeted like this.
00:23:31.000 I could have made it go away by agreeing to lie, not by agreeing to uncover information I had against the president that would have led to his impeachment, but I was hiding because no such information exists.
00:23:44.000 Let me say it for the 1,000th time.
00:23:47.000 I could have lied, but then I couldn't live with myself.
00:23:51.000 And I would not be in a position to change the course of history.
00:23:55.000 Donald Trump, in my opinion, saved this country from hurtling over the cliff to globalism.
00:24:01.000 He is the last thing standing between us and total, complete anarchy.
00:24:06.000 What we see in the streets today is not peaceful democratic demonstration.
00:24:12.000 It is a violent, well-organized, well-funded socialist revolution.
00:24:17.000 These people want to overthrow our democratic institutions, our form of government, our U.S. Constitution, and all of our basic values and freedoms.
00:24:27.000 What is the sense of tearing down statues of Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln because they're racists?
00:24:33.000 Please, this makes no sense.
00:24:35.000 Their whole thing doesn't make any sense.
00:24:37.000 And now, on top of it all, we're tearing down statues of Jesus Christ.
00:24:41.000 We're tearing down statues of the Virgin Mary.
00:24:44.000 You know, this has gone way, way too far.
00:24:47.000 And those who are urging restraint, I respectfully disagree with them.
00:24:53.000 At some point, you have to demonstrate to the anarchists that you will not put up with lawlessness.
00:24:59.000 It is just not acceptable.
00:25:01.000 So, Charlie, you made a good point before we went on the air, and that is how few conservatives were willing to stand up.
00:25:11.000 And therefore, I've got to go through a short list because there's a number of Americans who really need credit.
00:25:17.000 First of all, there is you, and you did a great job.
00:25:20.000 You never wavered.
00:25:21.000 You never flagged.
00:25:22.000 You were one of my most articulate advocates.
00:25:25.000 You followed the case carefully.
00:25:27.000 I know you spoke to the president on my behalf.
00:25:29.000 I know you were hitting Twitter every week to remind everybody that this was going on.
00:25:34.000 And I'm deeply grateful.
00:25:36.000 Ryan Fournier with students for Trump, strong supporter, a great guy, really helpful.
00:25:43.000 Tucker Carlson, I mean, what else can you say?
00:25:46.000 He had a deep sense of injustice about this entire thing.
00:25:50.000 He was outraged.
00:25:51.000 He was infuriated.
00:25:52.000 And he would never let go.
00:25:54.000 He followed the case.
00:25:56.000 And in every twist and turn, he would go on his show and use it as a platform to keep Americans aware of what was being done behind the scenes to destroy me.
00:26:05.000 We've been friends for 30 years.
00:26:07.000 You can have no more loyal friend than Tucker Carlson.
00:26:10.000 He is a man among men.
00:26:12.000 He's an extraordinary individual.
00:26:15.000 And I will never forget what he's done for me and my family.
00:26:18.000 Sean Hannity, who was great and really pounded away using his platform so people understood how outrageous this case was.
00:26:28.000 Congressman Matt Gates from my home state of Florida, a great advocate who I know was out there when Kevin McCarthy and Elise Stefanik were arguing against any clemency for Roger Stone because it might cost the Republicans seats.
00:26:46.000 I know that Matt Gates was standing tall, both privately and in public, on my behalf.
00:26:53.000 Mark Levin, Mark Levin and I have never been friends.
00:26:56.000 We have had tussles in the past.
00:26:58.000 Looking at them in retrospect in my new form, in my new perspective as a Christian, I was wrong.
00:27:04.000 He was right. 0.99
00:27:05.000 And I've apologized for that.
00:27:07.000 But nobody broke the case down against me better than Mark Levin on his radio show.
00:27:12.000 And I really owe him a great debt of gratitude.
00:27:16.000 Conservatives like Reverend Darrell Scott, Reverend Mark Burns, Reverend Franklin Graham, all many, many people in the evangelical Christian community, both African-American and not African-American, saw this injustice and called it out.
00:27:35.000 Bernie Carrick, the former New York police commissioner, a great guy, gave me a huge amount of strategic advice because he's lived this nightmare and he understood it.
00:27:45.000 My friend Kristen Davis, who went on CNN, went on MSNBC, went right into the lion's den and defended me fearlessly and effectively.
00:27:55.000 Members of my family, of course, my wife, Nidia, my daughter, Audrey, my son, Scott, who through thick and thin, through my temper tantrums and through my ups and downs, you know, stuck with me and kept insisting this would all turn out all right.
00:28:09.000 Now, I've told you that back in January, I had the opportunity to meet privately with Franklin Graham, Reverend Randy Coggins, a very dynamic young evangelist preacher, really a terrific guy, somebody I could call late at night who would really help me through the rough spots here and point me to places in the Bible where there were specific things that would give me solace.
00:28:32.000 And I had an opportunity to meet with Reverend Graham.
00:28:35.000 I'd seen his father, Franklin Graham, preach when I was 12 years old in a tent revival in Bridgeport, Connecticut.
00:28:41.000 It's one of the most memorable things in my life.
00:28:44.000 It was a dramatic, extraordinary experience.
00:28:47.000 And I had met Reverend Graham's daughter, Sissy, on the Republican circuit when I was speaking, and she's a terrific person.
00:28:54.000 And Reverend Graham was the one who told me that when I asked him if he would speak to the president on my behalf, he said, well, you know, I'll do what I can there, but there's a bigger solution here.
00:29:05.000 And he said, it's time for you to reaffirm your belief in Jesus Christ.
00:29:10.000 It's time for you to be reborn.
00:29:12.000 He asked me about my religious background, and I told him that I was a Roman Catholic, that I had received the sacraments in that church.
00:29:18.000 I'd had a Catholic education.
00:29:20.000 But I admitted I had fallen away.
00:29:22.000 I had fallen from God's path.
00:29:25.000 And he said, well, you need to get back on the path.
00:29:26.000 You need to confess your sins.
00:29:28.000 You need to pledge not to sin anymore to the best of your ability.
00:29:33.000 You need to rededicate your life to Christ.
00:29:36.000 You need to ask him to come into your heart.
00:29:38.000 And I absolutely guarantee you, if you will do that, God will see you through this.
00:29:42.000 He will protect you.
00:29:43.000 He will never abandon you.
00:29:45.000 And he was absolutely right.
00:29:47.000 That was on a Saturday when I stood up with 500 other Christians and I took the pledge.
00:29:51.000 I confessed.
00:29:52.000 I witnessed to Christ.
00:29:53.000 I cleansed my soul.
00:29:55.000 And the very following Monday, the story about the corrupt juror hit the fan big time across the United States.
00:30:02.000 It was like overnight.
00:30:04.000 Now, you can say that's a coincidence, but I don't believe it is a coincidence.
00:30:08.000 I believe it is the divine hand of God.
00:30:11.000 And that's why even up to Friday night, Charlie, I wasn't worried.
00:30:16.000 I wasn't nervous.
00:30:17.000 I wasn't panicked.
00:30:18.000 I knew that there were plans to ship me to a prison today.
00:30:22.000 But I knew that God would provide, that he would protect me from those who would persecute me.
00:30:27.000 And he did, because I believe that the president was guided by the Lord to do the right thing, just as he's guided in all his acts as president.
00:30:36.000 I know Donald Trump.
00:30:37.000 I've known him for 40 years.
00:30:38.000 He is a deep believer in the Lord.
00:30:41.000 And you couldn't do that job unless you believed in God and unless you believed in divine guidance.
00:30:46.000 It's why we have, we must re-elect him.
00:30:49.000 And I think it's going to be much more difficult than many of our supporters think.
00:30:54.000 Because the other side cheats.
00:30:54.000 Why?
00:30:56.000 That's why.
00:30:57.000 Because they will engage in ballot fraud.
00:31:00.000 We know that from history.
00:31:02.000 They are already trying to censor us across every social media platform.
00:31:07.000 Just before they were to execute me, they wanted to silence me while I was being lynched.
00:31:12.000 So they banned me for life on Facebook and Instagram based on the entirely false allegation that I owned and manipulated 100 fake Facebook pages.
00:31:24.000 It's just not true.
00:31:26.000 Again, an allegation that falls out of the Mueller investigation.
00:31:30.000 Some witness told them that.
00:31:31.000 The problem with it is it isn't accurate.
00:31:34.000 I don't know that I have ever had a Facebook page in the name of any other person or even any person who doesn't really exist.
00:31:42.000 I've never set up a Facebook page for a political organization that didn't actually exist.
00:31:49.000 I do have pages for myself and my two blogs, The Stone Cold Truth and StoneZone.com, where I was prohibited from posting anything by Judge Jackson for the last 16 months.
00:32:01.000 And I have pages for each one of my books, but, you know, they argue that it's about spreading falsehoods.
00:32:08.000 So if they don't agree with the premise of your book, you're pushing false information.
00:32:13.000 Who's to say what the truth is?
00:32:14.000 Not them, that's for sure.
00:32:17.000 And Roger, it seems that the tech companies are a huge issue here.
00:32:21.000 And the fact that you're not even allowed to have a Facebook or Instagram page is remarkable to me.
00:32:26.000 When Instagram had a sticker yesterday that said mute white people, I tweeted this out, by the way, where I said, you're not allowed to have an Instagram page, but Instagram provides to young people a sticker that they can provide that literally says mute white people.
00:32:42.000 I mean, it's just whoever's making the decisions there, let's just say they're incredible, you know, they're trying to divide our country in a variety of different ways. 0.50
00:32:50.000 And so it was.
00:32:52.000 But the better question, Charlie, is who at the Justice Department is watching this violation of the law and doing nothing?
00:32:57.000 Because it's not a First Amendment issue.
00:32:59.000 Unfortunately, the First Amendment litigations against the tech giants have not gone very far.
00:33:05.000 The issue here is antitrust and monopolistic activities.
00:33:10.000 If they want to be the public square, then they have to be open to everyone.
00:33:14.000 You can't have it both ways.
00:33:16.000 Now, the telephone companies are privately owned, but they're regulated.
00:33:20.000 And these companies are privately owned.
00:33:22.000 And I'm not a big fan of regulation, but I'm a bigger fan of free speech.
00:33:28.000 I must tell you, we've gotten to a dangerous area.
00:33:31.000 I've signed up on Parlor, and I must say I really like it because you have a sense of freedom.
00:33:35.000 You know you're not going to be decapitated just because you're a Christian or a conservative or a libertarian or a Trump supporter or a non-liberal.
00:33:44.000 And every once in a while, you know, some liberal will post something in opposition to what I write.
00:33:48.000 That's fine.
00:33:49.000 In other words, that was why Twitter was fun.
00:33:51.000 There was a reparte.
00:33:53.000 But now Twitter has just descended into be a cesspool of hate.
00:33:57.000 You know, my granddaughter gave birth to my first great-grandchild several months ago, a great-grandson, and the torrent of hateful email and text messages that she got via social media, wishing that her child be stillborn or accusing saying your child is the product of incest between you and your own grandfather, saying that they would murder her and the baby.
00:34:23.000 This is sick.
00:34:24.000 This is the tolerance of the left in this country.
00:34:27.000 And yet they still have their account.
00:34:29.000 Just get off of social media if these things upset you because there are hateful people in America who will do things like this.
00:34:37.000 The judge went on and on about the safety of the jurors and she left the gag order after my being convicted.
00:34:48.000 She left the gag order in place because of the safety of the jurors.
00:34:53.000 What about the safety of myself and my family?
00:34:57.000 We've gotten death threats.
00:34:59.000 We've gotten threats of violence.
00:35:01.000 I can't go out in any public setting.
00:35:03.000 While I have to admit, the overwhelming majority of the people are friendly and supportive. 0.73
00:35:08.000 There's always two or three who want to threaten you with physical violence or start screaming that you're a Russian spy or a traitor.
00:35:15.000 My family members got mowed down in Budapest in 1956 by communist red Russian tanks. 0.96
00:35:22.000 I have no truck for the Russians. 0.99
00:35:24.000 Let's get that straight right now.
00:35:27.000 It is a very frustrating time to be an American.
00:35:30.000 Well, and Roger, you're now a free man.
00:35:34.000 And I want to close the point, though, Roger, because it's a theme that we talk about a lot on this program.
00:35:40.000 Why did so few conservatives fight?
00:35:42.000 I appreciate you mentioning me.
00:35:43.000 And Ryan Fournier and Matt Gates.
00:35:43.000 Thank you.
00:35:45.000 Matt did a lot.
00:35:46.000 Congressman Gates was a huge advocate of yours.
00:35:49.000 Tucker, any thanks that you give to me and Ryan Fournier, give to Tucker.
00:35:55.000 Roger, why did so few Republicans fight?
00:35:58.000 Well, that's the problem with Republicans.
00:35:59.000 They don't fight about anything.
00:36:01.000 I mean, establishment Republicans are as bad as establishment Democrats.
00:36:05.000 When we look at Washington and the problems in our country, it's a mistake to view things through the prism of Republican Democrat.
00:36:11.000 I mean, we're Republicans because it's our birthright.
00:36:14.000 We're the party of emancipation.
00:36:16.000 We're the party of civil rights.
00:36:18.000 But the real truth is it's the insiders versus an outsider.
00:36:23.000 The insiders, meaning the ruling elite of both parties, are interested in power and money and wealth, mostly power.
00:36:31.000 And from power, they get wealth.
00:36:33.000 Donald Trump is interested in the welfare of all Americans.
00:36:36.000 He's interested in having a rising tide lift all boats.
00:36:41.000 And he proved that in the way he revived our economy, rebuilt our military, and negotiated better trade deals so that we would have a job boom in this country and that everybody would have the opportunity and the promise of America.
00:36:53.000 So it can't really be seen on a Republican-Democrat divide, other than to say that there are no Democrats in the outsider camp, or to the extent that they are, there are Bernie Sanders, who is a communist posing as a socialist and an outsider because he got slammed dunked twice by his own party.
00:37:12.000 They will cheat this guy as many times as they need to, not because they don't agree with his underlying philosophy, but they recognize that he is too blunt.
00:37:20.000 They don't need a candidate who comes right out and says, oh, by the way, I'm a communist.
00:37:24.000 They need one who hides their communism and claims to be a moderate Democrat.
00:37:29.000 The other problem here, I think the other opportunity is Joe Biden cannot pass for a civil rights advocate.
00:37:36.000 That is not his record.
00:37:39.000 His entire political career is based on the opposition to the integration of the Wilmington-Delaware school system.
00:37:46.000 He said, if we integrate our schools, there will be jungles.
00:37:49.000 I don't want my child going to school in a jungle.
00:37:52.000 That is clearly a racist comment.
00:37:54.000 He is the father of the failed war on drugs, which has been an ignominious failure.
00:38:01.000 It has been a social, economic, and racist failure.
00:38:06.000 We are incarcerating people who are not violent criminals for the first time nonviolent crime of possession of small amounts of drugs using these mandatory penalties where a judge has no discretion.
00:38:20.000 So if you have a single mother with three children struggling to provide for them, working two jobs, but she's caught with a small amount of marijuana in her purse, putting her away for 25 years does not make sense.
00:38:33.000 She's not a violent criminal.
00:38:35.000 If you're a conservative, you as a taxpayer, you've paid billions to incarcerate and feed people who are not violent criminals. 0.99
00:38:44.000 It destroys families.
00:38:45.000 It destroys people.
00:38:46.000 It rehabilitates no one.
00:38:48.000 It's costing the taxpayers billions.
00:38:50.000 Who is the father of this policy?
00:38:52.000 Who dreamed up this turbocharging of the war on drugs?
00:38:56.000 Why, it's Joe Biden, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee in 1994.
00:39:01.000 He used to call it the Biden bill.
00:39:03.000 He stopped doing that.
00:39:04.000 Bill Clinton signed it into law.
00:39:06.000 You remember Hillary saying, you know, we have to do something about this problem. 0.83
00:39:11.000 She was over the top in her rhetoric, as I recall.
00:39:15.000 So we have to unmask who the real Joe Biden is.
00:39:19.000 He's not a moderate Democrat.
00:39:21.000 He's a sleazy dealmaker who has enriched himself and his family in every shady operation in Ukraine, in China.
00:39:30.000 And when you look, you'll find a lot more.
00:39:32.000 Also, back in Delaware, I'm going to disclose more about this, probably make some videos.
00:39:39.000 Former Vice President Biden and his wife have this extraordinary habit of not paying their bills, of stiffing small business people, merchants, hairdressers, dentists, landscaping people, fencers,
00:39:55.000 all these individual purveyors of small goods and services run up by the Bidens, then the Bidens stiff them on payment and dare these people, you know, who are small businessmen and women struggling to get by, dare them to sue, saying, you'll never get anywhere suing a U.S. senator.
00:40:12.000 You'll never get anywhere suing a sitting vice president.
00:40:14.000 Good luck.
00:40:15.000 I mean, what kind of person does that?
00:40:18.000 What kind of person orders goods and services and then accepts them, uses them, and refuses to pay for them?
00:40:26.000 I mean, it really shows his contempt for average working-class Americans.
00:40:31.000 In some cases, the bills he refused to pay bankrupted some small landscaping companies.
00:40:37.000 They just, they did a huge job for him, and they didn't get paid, and they went under.
00:40:42.000 People need to know about that Joe Biden. 1.00
00:40:44.000 He is a pompous, arrogant, blowhard. 0.97
00:40:47.000 And we need to know how he was in public life, in public office since he was 29 years old, but he became a multi-millionaire. 0.99
00:40:55.000 Needs to explain that.
00:40:56.000 They want Donald Trump's tax returns.
00:40:58.000 I want Joe Biden's tax returns.
00:41:00.000 I want Nancy Pelosi's tax returns while we're at it.
00:41:03.000 I like to see Maxine Waters as well.
00:41:06.000 So, you know, everybody can play this game.
00:41:08.000 What outrages me is they want the president's tax returns not because they have some probable cause or some evidence of wrongdoing.
00:41:16.000 They want them because they want them.
00:41:18.000 They want them because they're fishing for something.
00:41:20.000 They have no evidence of wrongdoing.
00:41:22.000 I'm absolutely certain that the president took some very large tax deductions to which he was entitled. 0.99
00:41:28.000 Would you want a president who was too stupid to take huge tax deductions that are legal under the law? 0.98
00:41:34.000 Would you want a president who purposely goes out and overpays his taxes? 1.00
00:41:37.000 Of course not.
00:41:38.000 That's not the guy you want running the finances of the country.
00:41:42.000 You want somebody who plays by the rules as they're written.
00:41:45.000 Now, if Jerry Nadler and Adam Schiff and the rest of their ilk doesn't like the tax code as it's written, sponsor legislation to change it.
00:41:54.000 But don't come back after the fact and say, oh, Trump took a giant tax deduction.
00:41:58.000 Well, was he entitled to it?
00:42:00.000 If he was, there's nothing wrong with that.
00:42:02.000 That's what he should have done.
00:42:04.000 It outrages me that they keep making insinuations about the president's tax returns when they know nothing about it and they have no evidence of wrongdoing.
00:42:13.000 It's outrageous.
00:42:15.000 I agree.
00:42:16.000 And so in closing here, Roger, I want to talk about this article in The Atlantic.
00:42:20.000 You probably saw it.
00:42:21.000 I did.
00:42:22.000 It's outrageous.
00:42:23.000 That's all I have to say is outrageous.
00:42:26.000 Joshua.
00:42:27.000 Well, there's a similar one in CNN.
00:42:29.000 A guy named Gerald Lefcourt pops up and says New York State can now indict Roger Stone.
00:42:36.000 Now, Gerald Lefcourt's a very interesting guy.
00:42:38.000 He's the attorney who got the state of Florida to give Jeffrey Epstein a break on his first round of child exploitation and child sex trafficking, where Jeffrey Epstein was simply charged with one count of solicitation so that he could immediately get out of jail and go right back to exploiting and sex trafficking and raping children.
00:42:59.000 So Mr. Lefcourt's quite a sponsor for that notion.
00:43:03.000 Now we have two other fuzzy-headed liberal law professors who don't know my case.
00:43:08.000 And I asked them, do you think that had the ruthless Andrew Weissman and the rest of Mueller's incredibly ruthless henchmen and women, including this bumbling, arrogant bully, Aaron Zelinsky, who went before the House Judiciary Committee in an extraordinary blend of hearsay, perjury, and obfuscation, kept insisting that he'd been pressured to give me a special treatment when I didn't get special treatment.
00:43:39.000 The sentencing guidelines for the crimes I was wrongly convicted of were 18 months.
00:43:45.000 They gave me 40.
00:43:47.000 He wanted to give me nine years and was complaining that he couldn't slide it by his bosses upstairs because it wasn't right.
00:43:54.000 They based this on making me pay a penalty for crimes I was neither charged with nor committed.
00:44:00.000 It was really outrageous.
00:44:01.000 But the point is that they had, believe me, done a deep dive into every corner of my life.
00:44:08.000 They looked at all my electronic devices, all my paper records, everything.
00:44:12.000 They could find no other crime.
00:44:14.000 They had to manufacture the ones that they have.
00:44:16.000 So this idea that we can now look for this, we can look for that, we can look for this, which is the theme of the Atlantic piece, believe me, had they been able to charge me for any of those crimes, I would have been charged.
00:44:27.000 Now, are they so vengeful that they may do this if a Democrat is elected president?
00:44:32.000 These people are so hateful. 0.99
00:44:34.000 They are so hysterical. 1.00
00:44:36.000 They are so vicious. 1.00
00:44:37.000 And they are so dishonest. 1.00
00:44:39.000 And they're so hypocritical. 1.00
00:44:41.000 Anything whatsoever is possible. 0.98
00:44:43.000 Yet another reason why our president has to be re-elected.
00:44:46.000 I have no doubt, by the way, that these very same people will seek to prosecute our president on some trumped up, pardon the expression, but some phony charge.
00:44:56.000 There's no doubt that the attorneys at the Southern District of New York have been digging deeply into the president's business past, looking for something, anything, to try to bring him down.
00:45:08.000 So it is even more important that this reign of terror be ended with the reelection of the president.
00:45:14.000 And this time, perhaps he will clean out the Justice Department.
00:45:19.000 Because I believe once you get beyond the top level, and even at the top level, there are too many Obama holdovers.
00:45:26.000 Right here in our home state of Florida, there is a prosecutor, a U.S. attorney for Central Florida that covers the area of Seminole and Orange counties, which is the Orlando area, who's going out of way to indict Trump supporters on essentially fabricated charges.
00:45:43.000 Why is this guy even still in office?
00:45:45.000 The tradition in America is that when a new president is elected, all U.S. attorneys tender their resignation, they're replaced.
00:45:53.000 That's what happened under George H.W. Bush.
00:45:56.000 It's what happened under Ronald Reagan.
00:45:58.000 It's what happened under Richard Nixon.
00:45:59.000 It's what happened under Dwight Eisenhower.
00:46:01.000 It has always been thus.
00:46:03.000 Same thing with ambassadors, by the way, which is why this whole Trump wanted to replace the Ukrainian ambassador.
00:46:09.000 It's a crime.
00:46:10.000 No, it's his absolute right.
00:46:12.000 Should have done it immediately. 0.99
00:46:13.000 The woman was a Trump hater. 1.00
00:46:15.000 She was preaching hatred of our president. 1.00
00:46:18.000 She should have been removed immediately. 0.93
00:46:19.000 The crime was leaving her there as long as we did.
00:46:23.000 So should the president be re-elected, I hope that he will clean house and start fresh with an entirely new team of people who are not swamp creatures.
00:46:32.000 Yeah, and just so the audience knows what was being argued, Joshua A. Geltzer argued in The Atlantic that you could be retried is basically what he was saying, just so that the audience is clear on it and that the commutation may be null and void if Trump carried it out to protect himself.
00:46:48.000 I've never seen such mental and legal gymnastics, Roger, as this.
00:46:52.000 I mean, they are pathological.
00:46:54.000 It's an extraordinary piece.
00:46:55.000 I saw it just before I came on, and I'm actually here with one of my lawyers, and I said, this is really extraordinary.
00:47:02.000 I mean, they just they come nine different ways to get at Roger Stone.
00:47:05.000 First of all, believe me, if they could have indicted me for a number of these other crimes, they would have, but there is no evidence.
00:47:11.000 And again, just to make sure we've covered this, there is no evidence or truth to the fact that I had and withheld any negative information or information of misconduct or illegal conduct by Donald Trump, the President of the United States, or Donald Trump, the candidate.
00:47:26.000 It simply didn't exist.
00:47:27.000 When I said I refused to roll over on the president, I didn't mean that I was lying about something that happened to protect him in return for a commutation.
00:47:36.000 I meant I refused to betray him.
00:47:38.000 I refused to lie.
00:47:39.000 I refused to cite false testimony that would be used in his impeachment and then be used in my prosecution.
00:47:47.000 I wouldn't do that.
00:47:48.000 So hopefully we've cleared that up, but liberals don't hear anything.
00:47:52.000 They just keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
00:47:55.000 It's the big lie technique.
00:47:57.000 You know, if you say something enough times, maybe people will begin to believe it's true.
00:48:01.000 Well, this is not true.
00:48:02.000 I know of no misconduct by the president or candidate Trump, and I was hiding nothing.
00:48:08.000 They were the ones who were fabricating testimony on the stand, and they did it repeatedly.
00:48:13.000 Well, and I'll tell you, Roger, the reason they did this was because they were trying to cover up for the failed Mueller investigation.
00:48:19.000 That's why they will not let go of this, because if they were to walk away from this, it would continue to invalidate the illegal, unconstitutional, and immoral special prosecutor that was the reason that you were looked into so aggressively.
00:48:36.000 And Republicans never should have authorized that, yet they did.
00:48:40.000 And look, because of it, we probably lost the House because of this appointment of Bob Mueller back in 2018.
00:48:47.000 So, Roger, in closing, how can people assist you?
00:48:50.000 I know you had a lot of legal bills and still do because they're still going after you.
00:48:54.000 And any other thoughts that you have for our audience?
00:48:56.000 Well, I have to finance an appeal.
00:48:59.000 And I actually have two motions filed for appeal.
00:49:02.000 One of my conviction, based on constitutional grounds and other issues.
00:49:08.000 The other one based solely on the misconduct of the juror.
00:49:11.000 You know, an appeal could cost as much as a million dollars.
00:49:15.000 It's a long process, but people who want to help can go to stone defensefund.com.
00:49:20.000 It's stone-effensefund.com.
00:49:23.000 I don't know if there are other state prosecutions.
00:49:26.000 Some speculate about New York.
00:49:27.000 We haven't seen that yet.
00:49:29.000 My lawyers think it's a bit of a stretch, but the left is capable of anything. 0.80
00:49:33.000 And you have a psychopath who hates Donald Trump as the Attorney General in New York.
00:49:38.000 So perhaps they will bring some phony action. 0.88
00:49:43.000 That's possible.
00:49:45.000 I must either sue Facebook or the company that created the report that said I had 100 fake Facebook pages.
00:49:54.000 By the way, this is the same company that was retained by the Senate Foreign Affairs Committee to produce a report about Russian troll farms and the use of bots.
00:50:06.000 That report was just as phony as the report that they did on me.
00:50:11.000 These two reports make the steel dossier look like the Bible when it comes to truth.
00:50:16.000 I mean, it's completely fabricated.
00:50:18.000 So I have another legal expense there.
00:50:20.000 People who want to help can go to stone defensefund.com, stonefensefund.com.
00:50:27.000 If you want to get one of these great Roger Stone Still Did Nothing Wrong t-shirts, and many people do, you can go to fightback.store.
00:50:35.000 That's fightback.store, where they are available, and they're flying off the shelves.
00:50:41.000 That helps me as well.
00:50:42.000 And then lastly, as I indicated, this has been financially, completely debilitating.
00:50:48.000 My wife and I are struggling, and we need help.
00:50:52.000 So those who want to help us on that side, and really it's just basic expenses of rent and groceries, utilities, gasoline, some medical expenses.
00:51:01.000 We have some insurance left.
00:51:02.000 It's not as much as it was previously.
00:51:06.000 And prescription drugs.
00:51:08.000 Well, you can go to stonefamilyfund.com.
00:51:11.000 That's stonefamilyfund.com.
00:51:13.000 Contribution there will make Mrs. Stone very happy because she keeps the books for the Stone family.
00:51:20.000 Charlie, I will never quit fighting.
00:51:22.000 I will always keep insisting that the president is a great man who's done a great thing.
00:51:27.000 It takes an enormous amount of courage.
00:51:29.000 The president told me when he called, you know, a lot of people, he said, told me not to do this.
00:51:33.000 A lot of people told me not to do this.
00:51:36.000 But on the other hand, he said, you have a lot of really good friends because some very good people told me that I should do this, that it was the right thing to do.
00:51:43.000 And I've decided that it is the right thing to do.
00:51:46.000 He said the first lady was among those who agreed that it was the right thing to do.
00:51:50.000 So I'm indebted to the president.
00:51:52.000 He's one of the greatest men I have ever known.
00:51:55.000 I hate the way he is constantly subjected to the vicious vituperation and slander of the mainstream media.
00:52:03.000 But we will win in the end because this is a battle of ideas.
00:52:07.000 And our ideas are superior to theirs.
00:52:09.000 In fact, they can't win a battle of ideas.
00:52:12.000 That's why they need to censor us.
00:52:14.000 They know that in a real, vigorous debate, their ideas are bankrupt.
00:52:19.000 Their ideas are authoritarian.
00:52:21.000 Their ideas are redistribution.
00:52:23.000 And they know the American people will never knowingly buy that.
00:52:27.000 Charlie, thank you so much again for your support.
00:52:29.000 God bless you.
00:52:31.000 You know, anything I can do for you or for your organization, you know I'm there in a heartbeat.
00:52:37.000 Well, you keep fighting, Roger, and fight against the bad guys that are trying to still make an example out of you.
00:52:43.000 And so I was pleased to see the president do the right thing.
00:52:46.000 I was disappointed more Republicans didn't come to your defense, but we're starting to see who the good guys are and who the weak guys are and the people that just pretend to be good.
00:52:54.000 So, Roger, God bless you.
00:52:56.000 And thanks so much again for joining our program.
00:52:58.000 Thank you.
00:53:00.000 See you later.
00:53:00.000 Thanks, Roger.
00:53:01.000 Judge said, I can't do this anymore.
00:53:03.000 That's why I have to do it.
00:53:04.000 That's so funny.
00:53:05.000 Did they really do a gag on that? 0.98
00:53:06.000 That's ridiculous. 0.96
00:53:07.000 Oh, yeah. 0.99
00:53:08.000 The judge said from the bench.
00:53:09.000 And Mr. Stone, no more of this.
00:53:12.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:53:13.000 There it is.
00:53:13.000 All right.
00:53:14.000 See you later, Roger.
00:53:15.000 Thanks, man.
00:53:15.000 Thank you.
00:53:16.000 See you soon.
00:53:16.000 Bye.
00:53:20.000 What a great conversation that was with Roger Stone.
00:53:22.000 If you guys want to get involved with Turning Point USA, go to TPA.
00:53:25.000 That was a conversation.
00:53:26.000 It was more me listening.
00:53:27.000 Go to tpusa.com.
00:53:28.000 That is tpusa.com, the nation's largest conservative student organization, over 2,000 high school and college campuses across the country.
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