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00:02:04.000Remember when the smooth talking southerner, I forget his name from Tennessee, the guy who said that he got punched in the kidneys, said that there are people that walk the floors and whisper in your ears, don't vote for this or else the naked pictures that we have with you with the underage girls are going to be leaked.
00:03:05.000So we can only expect that he's working on his next job.
00:03:10.000And I don't know what that's going to be.
00:03:12.000A lot of people say he's trying to get a job working for CNN like Adam Kinzinger.
00:03:17.000And if that's the case, if he's looking for a contract like that, well, we can understand why he basically protected Secretary Mayorkis, did the work of the Democrats, and prevented impeachment from happening.
00:03:31.000Unfortunately, we can't primary Ken Buck since he's retiring.
00:03:34.000Tom McClintock, I certainly cannot understand, calls himself a constitutionalist, serves on the Judiciary Committee.
00:03:42.000He has been against impeachment basically altogether.
00:03:48.000If you're a constitutionalist, if you're someone that cares about the Constitution, then you should be willing to use the Constitution.
00:03:57.000And impeachment is a tool in the Constitution that the founders gave us, and we should be using it against Secretary Mayorkas and against a whole lot more people, Joe Biden, Matthew Graves, and others.
00:04:11.000But Tom McClintock is unwilling to use the powerful tool that the founders gave us in the Constitution, even though Secretary Mayorkis has provenly broken federal immigration laws and violated his oath of office.
00:04:24.000The third one, Mike Gallagher, is hard to understand.
00:04:28.000He serves as chairman of the CCP Select Committee.
00:04:33.000And he also comes from a military background and an intelligence background in the military.
00:04:38.000So of all people, Mike Gallagher should know more than anyone the dangers and the type of people coming across our border.
00:04:47.000And he should have a full understanding of why impeaching Secretary Mayorkis is the most important thing that we should have accomplished last night on the House floor and had the opportunity to do so if he had not voted no.
00:05:00.000I can't understand why he made that vote, but he did.
00:05:04.000And then he put out a big op-ed in the Wall Street Journal today making his case against impeachment, which doesn't help our conference at all.
00:08:58.000And if Maorkis was allowing imports to come into our country that were made by slave labor, there's another reason to impeach Maorkis.
00:09:06.000So for Mike Gallagher as chairman of the CCP Select Committee, if he was having to ask Majorkis to stop these products from coming into America made by slave labor, well, then Mike Gallagher should have even had a bigger reason to impeach Majorkis.
00:09:23.000So that's something I'm still trying to get some information on, but I saw that same thing going on on X last night.
00:09:30.000And I'll see what I can find out for you.
00:09:59.000It would put the pressure on the Senate.
00:10:02.000How can our audience be most helpful here?
00:10:05.000Well, I really appreciate it, Charlie.
00:10:07.000And the biggest help that we need right now is for everyone to call your rep and let them know that impeaching Maorkis is an absolute must happen.
00:10:48.000We'll do everything we can to get it done next week.
00:10:51.000And for all the great people up in northern Wisconsin, Green Bay area, we're going to mobilize all of you, and we will remove Mike Gallagher eventually.
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00:12:19.000This has been in the works, I think, for some time.
00:12:22.000So I think that a lot of people realize this was a mistake.
00:12:26.000That, you know, I think the major point to focus on right now at this exact moment is that everything that everyone was saying over a year ago was right.
00:12:37.000That the grassroots was completely disconnected from the Republican Party, that the donors, large and small, were abandoning the Republican Party, right?
00:12:47.000And the arguments that everyone had made for keeping Rana in place with the current RNC membership were wrong.
00:12:55.000And I'm glad that there's some embracing acknowledgement of that.
00:14:02.000And so you started to build relationships in the committee, and you realized that there were more people that saw the world the way you did than the committee would ever acknowledge.
00:15:00.000You stood in the pocket on something that's not, I mean, there's no, you don't really gain anything from telling people the truth on these matters, right?
00:15:10.000And that's why they've been ignored for so long.
00:15:12.000Even people that were somewhat aware that have been in the media space for some time, you know, Rush was there forever, Minnie Foxos.
00:15:20.000It's just wading into these things are tricky and they're highly political.
00:15:24.000And you're talking about some of the most powerful political people in the Republican Party in every state.
00:15:30.000And so, I mean, I'm telling you, there's nothing that's more gratifying than to see the grassroots support the good guys who go in and fight those battles.
00:15:39.000Because in years past, it's been just a handful of people.
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00:18:56.000One of the reasons they're gaining voice is shows like this, podcasting, social media, that the old way of doing business.
00:19:02.000They used to be able to just hide behind a collection of radio programs, a collection of newspaper outlets, a collection of op-eds, and a collection of TV channels.
00:19:10.000And the grassroots didn't have a vector to voice their opinion.
00:19:14.000And it was just kind of like, oh, you're in the grassroots, like whatever.
00:19:18.000Because of digital social media and our embracing of digital social media, and by our, I mean us collectively, we can make the RNC a grassroots party again.
00:19:48.000Getting out the vote, if you try to do it on ATT, T-Mobile, we're already seeing this already happening where they're shutting down conservatives just like they were shutting down their bank accounts, just like they were shutting down their social media.
00:20:23.000So let's say that we have 100,000 voters that we want to try to get them out to the polls.
00:20:29.000So theoretically, the telecom companies could say you can't do that.
00:20:32.000So historically, when you've gone out the vote by text message, like just even your friends, the telecom companies will shut you down after like 1,000 or 2,000 messages to avoid spam, like pretty normal stuff.
00:20:44.000And most people don't send 1,000 text messages in one sitting in one day.
00:20:48.000Now we're seeing, and this is reports that are coming out of places in Utah.
00:20:53.000We just had this happen in Delaware and other places where we're seeing T-Mobile and ATT shutting down people after as few as 50 text messages.
00:21:04.000And then they're locked out of their account.
00:22:08.000They don't realize that the grassroots now all have the super weapon called a phone in their right-hand pocket.
00:22:13.000Access to social media, the ability to hold members accountable.
00:22:16.00020 years ago, they didn't really have this.
00:22:18.00020 years ago, it was just, it was very disconnected, maybe a meeting a year.
00:22:22.000But the game has changed and the utilization of digital social media influencer type methodology, it's improved our chances to have a better party.
00:22:32.000Yeah, I mean, just the speed, the RC is taking advantage of the lack of communication and the speed of communication being very slow between the grassroots.
00:22:42.000So it takes years to ultimately take over an RC position, right?
00:22:47.000You have to become a super activist, a county chair, state party chair, and that takes years of development.
00:22:54.000So it's no surprise that we're in that period following Trump getting elected in 2016 now where people have become more aware and more involved and all of that.
00:23:04.000And now there's conflict because, again, a majority of people who are involved at the grassroots level and your county parties, the precinct level are now very much pro-Trump.
00:23:40.000And so now at this point, they're like past the point of retirement, right?
00:23:43.000And so now you have all these younger people, middle-aged people have come in through MAGA and through the Trump era, and they're learning things much more quickly than the Tea Party did in 2010.
00:23:54.000Yeah, an example is the Tea Party had all this power and it was largely taken advantage of by John Boehner and Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor and all these things.
00:24:00.000And the party, the RNC, the apparatus.
00:24:02.000And don't forget that the Unit Party was authorizing the Obama Treasury Department to audit the Tea Party.
00:24:08.000The Tea Party was an existential threat to the Uniparty.
00:24:10.000Donald Trump in some ways kept the... kept the aura of the Tea Party alive.
00:24:25.000And this is, so that kind of brings us to where we are today, where it's like people are more acutely aware of who's who and what's what, what they believe because of social media, because of speed of communication, because of technology, as you mentioned.
00:24:41.000And so now it's our job to ensure that they're correctly represented.
00:24:46.000And in many states, people are becoming aware now, largely because of this program and some others.
00:24:51.000Steve has been great and a few others and making people aware.
00:24:57.000And really, this is a teamwork effort, right?
00:24:59.000So you look at all the conservative media that's now, nobody's on the side of the establishment.
00:25:04.000And if they are, the only people that are, sorry to interrupt, they have built-in cable box time where they just, it's just kind of white noise.
00:25:22.000And that's where it's like, you got to pick your battles here.
00:25:26.000But the battle that we have to have right now is it's not okay to allow more election losses because we have a much more competent grassroots than we've ever had.
00:25:37.000We have people who are fighters and willing to fight.
00:25:40.000We have really talented people who deserve to be in those roles because the vast majority of the conservative movement supports those people.
00:25:47.000And so just standing by and allowing the status quo to continue to exist because, oh, that's like a, that's like not a fight worth taking.
00:26:30.000So really briefly, because we're limited on time, but last election for RNC leadership, which was last January, Rana ran.
00:26:37.000Most people were focused on that, but you had the co-chair election, the treasurer's election, and the secretary's election.
00:26:42.000There was basically no, not a huge battle over secretary.
00:26:46.000And everybody knows the chair election, but the co-chair and the treasurer's election were really interesting because Drew McKissick ran against two other guys who are considering more establishment and Michael Watley, who was the pick of Rana, who's been known as like Rana's guy.
00:27:29.000He dropped out, clearly didn't have the votes because most of the conservatives opted for the better option, which was Drew McKissick at the time.
00:27:37.000And again, I know there's a lot of conservatives who are in South Carolina, not fans of Drew McKissick.
00:27:42.000I just want to put that out there, but I'm framing what happened.
00:27:45.000So Trump also endorsed at the time the treasurer candidate, Joe Gruters, who's the former chair of Florida.
00:27:51.000He lost to the conservative-backed Casey Crosby from Kentucky, who had ran Paul Support and everything else, who was supported by conservatives.
00:28:00.000So this was mainly because in the body, the conservatives had already picked a different candidate.
00:28:06.000And then when Trump endorsed, I think all the people that dislike Trump actually ended up supporting those candidates as well.
00:28:12.000Really complex, but that body hasn't changed, right?
00:28:16.000It's still the same people until these elections occur.
00:28:19.000These elections will occur over the next two to three months, but they don't take seats until after the convention.
00:28:25.000So just to distill it, it's going to, so if Rana steps down in a couple of weeks, which is what she said, what is the process then of getting a new chair?
00:28:56.000But, you know, there could be a different plan that starts to formulate.
00:29:00.000But again, this is where the battle exists because now people are saying, okay, well, you know, it's not good enough to have somebody that's just going to be like the equal to Rana taking over for Rana.
00:29:10.000Now, I'll say this: both Michael and Drew, I think, are better than where we're at currently.
00:29:47.000So if Michael Watley has the votes with the current RNC delegation, which supported Rana, and remember, these are all the same people, right?
00:29:57.000So if Michael has those votes, which he probably does, you know, he probably does.
00:30:02.000I'm just going to be, I'm just cutting it straight.
00:30:18.000I hope changes can come that are necessary and he's willing to listen to those things, where I don't think Rana was, but you need a female coach here that's a solid conservative and we've we've come up with some options for that.
00:30:28.000Okay, so Tyler, do you think that the cake is baked on Watley?
00:31:36.000So, if Jessica is paired with Drew or Michael, I think that would be extraordinarily bad because the grassroots would go, this is maybe worse than Rana.
00:31:47.000Now, my suggestion is if it's baked in, have an ultra, ultra, ultra America first, strong Trump supporting co-chair.
00:31:58.000And you've got a couple of really great options.
00:32:01.000You've got Julianne Murray, who's the chair of Delaware, who stuck it to Hunter Biden.
00:32:30.000She not only stuck it to Hunter Biden, but she also eliminated no excuse expansion of early voting in Delaware.
00:32:39.000I mean, if you want an election integrity expert, somebody that's like fighting the actual fight that's done it in Blue State, she's incredible.
00:32:47.000And if Hunter Biden, I'm sorry, Hunter Biden.
00:33:14.000And she would actually force the lawfare issue, which we need, again, fighting for election integrity, which is not happening to the level it should in the RNC.
00:34:10.000See, you can't change the rules unless you change the rules, which can only happen at the end of the convention, which we might bring up in the future.
00:34:17.000But anyway, the point being is you got to play with those rules.
00:34:20.000So that's the reason why we have a male and female tandem, right?
00:35:13.000You could have Lee Zeldon and Harmeet.
00:35:16.000You could have Lee Zeldon and Julianne Murray.
00:35:18.000You could have Lee Zeldon and Lara Trump.
00:35:20.000You could have, I mean, there's a lot of different options that you can have because the chair and co-chair don't have to be from the body.
00:35:25.000The problem is, and Harmeet said this last night on the space, Twitter space that we were on, was that you've got 168 people who think that they're like the most important political person on planet Earth, and they just like usually to pick from that body.
00:35:40.000That's the reason why most of the time.
00:35:41.000At the same time, they don't like it when attention is drawn to them.
00:35:45.000They like to be the most important person.
00:35:47.000It's like the Roman Senate, but you can't, you don't.
00:35:58.000They don't want a public vote on anything.
00:36:02.000They like to be in charge and control, but they don't want to be held responsible for anything they decide.
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00:36:54.000We can't lose attention to state party chair races and all of that in the coming months, right?
00:36:58.000So you got, number one, we've got to get the most conservative person you possibly can in representing your state in the RNC.
00:37:06.000If you're not aware, you need to get involved.
00:37:08.000You're going to have conventions coming up, votes coming up in the next three months.
00:37:12.000You must get involved in order to do that, particularly in these key target states.
00:37:15.000I think conservatives are going to get a lot of really good people elected this year, and that's good.
00:37:20.000The second thing, though, is like we can't let this battle now needs to be fought because next January, Trump's going to get elected, right?
00:37:33.000And here in Arizona, we're doing the ballot chasing and everything else.
00:37:36.000We're doing everything we possibly can.
00:37:38.000January, we'll have another election for RNC chair.
00:37:41.000And so if Trump gets elected, he's going to pick, but we've got to make sure that we line up really good options for him and don't set up a bad person just to continue running the RNC while Trump's in the presidency because this is operationally how you have people internally working against your own president.
00:37:57.000This is operationally how you have people working against the grassroots who are trying to support the president.
00:38:02.000And sometimes it's indirect in that way.
00:38:04.000And that's been the observation and the concern that many people have had is you have all these consultants, you have all these different things going on in these different states, and we're not running as efficiently or as effectively as we possibly could be.
00:38:15.000That's why people are upset and they're like, Scott Pressler should be chair.
00:38:18.000You know, I don't know if Scott Pressler wants to be chair, but what I do know is that whoever is the chair needs to subjugate themselves to say what Scott Pressler is doing is really incredible.
00:38:27.000And we need a thousand more Scott Presslers and we need to invest into that.
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00:39:32.000Okay, anyways, going back to this conversation.
00:39:34.000So, you know, the RNC's job really should be to hold, I mean, they're in, they're right next door to Congress in D.C. to hold Congress accountable, not just become like basically the errand boy for Congress.
00:39:46.000And my biggest concern that I've witnessed is I've seen leadership just act like they're just like taking orders from Mitch McConnell.
00:40:18.000So when you have the RNC taking orders from the NRCC or the NRSC, right, on the Senate and the congressional side, then you become an element, a cog in the wheel of Kevin McCarthy or Mitch McConnell or whoever, right?
00:40:33.000And no matter how you feel about those gentlemen, right?
00:40:36.000But you essentially, what you do is you change your focus from president to now trying to win the House or trying to win the Senate back.
00:40:46.000And I think Mitch McConnell's done a terrible job at that, right?
00:40:49.000Like he could have, we could have won at least two or three more states last year.
00:40:52.000Easily, Adam Laxall being one of them.
00:40:53.000Laxall being one of them, Georgia being one of them.
00:40:55.000Herschel here in Arizona, we could have actually had some kind of resources dumped in.
00:40:59.000I think if we would have mixed salary resources, we would have won.
00:41:02.000But that is, that is the conversation.
00:41:04.000So it's really frustrating to watch RNC leadership just become like, again, subjugated to those people because that's how you lose everything.
00:41:14.000And so I think what the argument is, is like, hey, if we had an RNC that's more grassroots focused, where we're like not fighting ourselves 90% of the time and we're actually standing up and trying to get the guy that is the clear nominee elected.
00:41:36.000So you only do that if you get a good leader or a good set of leadership in chair and co-chair, you know, which has to be male or female, which we just covered 10 times.
00:41:45.000That's who you, that's who that's who you have to focus on.
00:41:48.000And if you send dumb people who are just basically figments and elements of consultant class or chamber of consultant class people, you're going to get bad people in those in those roles and you're going to keep losing.
00:42:40.000But they know the left is freaking out.
00:42:42.000It's going to be a sizable staffing deployment.
00:42:44.000They know that we are going to have thousands of volunteers and possibly thousands of full-time people here.
00:42:51.000And so now they're really reconsidering the left.
00:42:54.000When I say they, the left is reconsidering what type of emphasis they're going to put in Arizona because they're not sure they can win Arizona now because we're finally doing this stuff.
00:43:02.000Yeah, that, and you're going to tell you.
00:43:04.000If they, if they go, if I was the Democrats, I shouldn't say it this way, but what I think the Democrats are going to do is they're going to go all in unprotected Wisconsin.
00:43:42.000And part of the reason why they're a disaster is because if RFK is on the ballot in Arizona and Georgia, those numbers bode very poorly for the Democrats, mainly because center-left voters that are under the age of 40, and this is polling, right?
00:43:57.000Have said they're really interested in voting for Kirsten Cinema and RFK Jr.
00:44:01.000And that doesn't help them because now they have to find different pockets.
00:44:04.000Yeah, this is again, if again, the Democrats will know by June their strategy because they're going to have to make final deployments.
00:44:22.000But presidentially, Biden, if you're Biden, you run on the abortion play in the upper Midwest, where it's proven to win when it's a single ballot referendum type thing.
00:45:04.000The money ball equation for Arizona right now, and this is as someone that knows a thing or two about Arizona, the money ball equation for the Democrats in Arizona right now is looking very bad.
00:45:55.000Arizona's been a goofy political state the last couple of cycles for multiple reasons.
00:45:58.000It's just like when you have a smaller population, and when I say smaller, Arizona's big, but growing like it's smaller than Pennsylvania, right?
00:46:05.000It's just easier to take advantage of.
00:46:16.000And that all of a sudden, if you get your act together, a little bit of organization has an exponential impact in states where you've been taking advantage of it.
00:46:23.000And their whole money ball equation, it doesn't take into consideration us doing anything, right?
00:46:27.000So our side doing things on top of already their bad equation becomes a situation where it's like, it doesn't make reasonable sense to dump $100 million on Arizona.