The Charlie Kirk Show - Ronna Is Out… Right?

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00:00:03.000 Are members of Congress currently being blackmailed?

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00:00:36.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:34.000 You know that we were one vote away from impeaching Alejandro Mayorkas, who's a traitor to the United States.

00:01:40.000 But there were three Republicans, Tom McClintock, Ken Buck, and Mike Gallagher, who said, no, we don't want to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:01:49.000 We're going to put the numbers up there on screen.

00:01:51.000 Makes you wonder, are these people compromised?

00:01:54.000 Ken Buck, especially.

00:01:56.000 What has Ken Buck done in his life?

00:01:58.000 Is somebody holding blackmail over him?

00:02:00.000 Now, you might say, Charlie, that's an exaggeration.

00:02:02.000 There's no evidence of that.

00:02:03.000 Hold on.

00:02:04.000 Remember when the smooth talking southerner, I forget his name from Tennessee, the guy who said that he got punched in the kidneys, said that there are people that walk the floors and whisper in your ears, don't vote for this or else the naked pictures that we have with you with the underage girls are going to be leaked.

00:02:22.000 Those are his words, not ours.

00:02:23.000 It makes you wonder if Ken Buck, Mike Gallagher, and Tom McClintock are compromised.

00:02:28.000 What do they have on these people?

00:02:30.000 Joining us now is Marjorie Taylor Green.

00:02:32.000 Marjorie's doing a great job, Congresswoman Green.

00:02:35.000 So first of all, kudos to you.

00:02:37.000 You brought this to the floor.

00:02:38.000 Speaker Johnson did a great job putting it there.

00:02:40.000 I've been texting Speaker Johnson a lot, encouraging it.

00:02:42.000 And I'm seeing some improvement.

00:02:44.000 We're seeing some good movement there.

00:02:47.000 But Congresswoman Green, what's going on with Mike Gallagher, Tom McClintock, and Ken Buck?

00:02:52.000 Why did they vote against impeaching Alejandro Mayorkas?

00:02:55.000 Well, I certainly can't understand it myself.

00:02:57.000 It absolutely makes no sense whatsoever.

00:03:00.000 Ken Buck is retiring.

00:03:03.000 He's not running for reelection.

00:03:05.000 So we can only expect that he's working on his next job.

00:03:10.000 And I don't know what that's going to be.

00:03:12.000 A lot of people say he's trying to get a job working for CNN like Adam Kinzinger.

00:03:17.000 And if that's the case, if he's looking for a contract like that, well, we can understand why he basically protected Secretary Mayorkis, did the work of the Democrats, and prevented impeachment from happening.

00:03:31.000 Unfortunately, we can't primary Ken Buck since he's retiring.

00:03:34.000 Tom McClintock, I certainly cannot understand, calls himself a constitutionalist, serves on the Judiciary Committee.

00:03:42.000 He has been against impeachment basically altogether.

00:03:46.000 But here's the whole thing, Charlie.

00:03:48.000 If you're a constitutionalist, if you're someone that cares about the Constitution, then you should be willing to use the Constitution.

00:03:57.000 And impeachment is a tool in the Constitution that the founders gave us, and we should be using it against Secretary Mayorkas and against a whole lot more people, Joe Biden, Matthew Graves, and others.

00:04:11.000 But Tom McClintock is unwilling to use the powerful tool that the founders gave us in the Constitution, even though Secretary Mayorkis has provenly broken federal immigration laws and violated his oath of office.

00:04:24.000 The third one, Mike Gallagher, is hard to understand.

00:04:28.000 He serves as chairman of the CCP Select Committee.

00:04:33.000 And he also comes from a military background and an intelligence background in the military.

00:04:38.000 So of all people, Mike Gallagher should know more than anyone the dangers and the type of people coming across our border.

00:04:47.000 And he should have a full understanding of why impeaching Secretary Mayorkis is the most important thing that we should have accomplished last night on the House floor and had the opportunity to do so if he had not voted no.

00:05:00.000 I can't understand why he made that vote, but he did.

00:05:04.000 And then he put out a big op-ed in the Wall Street Journal today making his case against impeachment, which doesn't help our conference at all.

00:05:12.000 It doesn't help the American people.

00:05:13.000 As a matter of fact, it hurts the American people.

00:05:18.000 So I honestly can't understand it, Charlie.

00:05:21.000 And I'm sure that they're hearing from their constituents.

00:05:24.000 I'm sure many of your listeners want to let them know what they really think that how they should have voted last night.

00:05:32.000 So there's a Wall Street Journal piece, I think, by Mike Gallagher.

00:05:37.000 Yeah.

00:05:38.000 Why voted against the Mayorkis impeachment?

00:05:41.000 Ousting a cabinet secretary for a maladministration would have opened Pandora's box.

00:05:45.000 The real problem is Biden.

00:05:47.000 Mike Gallagher needs to be primaried.

00:05:49.000 I will personally make sure that Mike Gallagher has no political future.

00:05:52.000 Mike Gallagher has just destroyed his political future.

00:05:54.000 Let me make this very clear.

00:05:55.000 We are going to turn Mike Gallagher into the new Lankford.

00:05:58.000 This is completely unacceptable.

00:05:59.000 Mike Gallagher is the moral equivalent of Adam Kinzinger.

00:06:02.000 This is a repulsive piece.

00:06:04.000 I'm reading this in the Wall Street Journal.

00:06:05.000 President Biden created a disaster.

00:06:07.000 Hold on, Biden's not in charge.

00:06:09.000 Mayorkis is running show on this.

00:06:11.000 Gallagher, you are covering for an entire illegitimate regime.

00:06:15.000 Gallagher, you are now a co-sponsor of what's happening.

00:06:17.000 Marjorie, do you think these people are being blackmailed by the intel agencies?

00:06:21.000 They might have had relations with certain people and pictures and compromised.

00:06:25.000 Do you think that they're currently being blackmailed?

00:06:28.000 You know, I have no proof of that, but again, I can't understand the vote.

00:06:34.000 So nothing surprises me in Washington, D.C. anymore, Charlie.

00:06:37.000 Literally nothing surprises me because it doesn't make sense to anyone, right?

00:06:44.000 Why would anyone vote no?

00:06:45.000 Why would anyone protect Mayorkas unless they're being bribed, unless there's something going on, unless they're making a deal? 0.96

00:06:53.000 You know, because you can't understand it.

00:06:56.000 It makes no sense.

00:06:58.000 And it's completely wrong to vote no on impeachment.

00:07:03.000 We have another opportunity, though.

00:07:05.000 I do want to let everyone know we are voting on impeachment.

00:07:09.000 The plan is to vote for it on Tuesday of next week.

00:07:14.000 That's why Blake Moore had to switch his vote from a yes to no so that we could make the motion to recommit.

00:07:20.000 Blake Moore is completely for impeachment, just to make sure everyone knows that.

00:07:24.000 But that was a procedural move so we can bring the articles of impeachment back up to vote next week.

00:07:29.000 That's going to happen on Tuesday.

00:07:31.000 We have to make sure that every single one of our members are able to come back in town.

00:07:36.000 And we really are hoping and praying that Steve Scalise is able to come back next week.

00:07:42.000 He's been out with a cancer treatment.

00:07:45.000 And we're hearing good things.

00:07:46.000 We're hearing as well.

00:07:47.000 And we're hearing he can come back next week.

00:07:50.000 Don't give up on this.

00:07:52.000 No, we are not giving up.

00:07:53.000 Absolutely not giving up.

00:07:55.000 If the vote count stays the same and Steve Glees comes back in town, we will impeach Alejandro Mayorkis on Tuesday.

00:08:03.000 Well, and Mike Gallagher just ended his political career.

00:08:05.000 We're going to figure out a way to get rid of him.

00:08:07.000 Might not be this cycle.

00:08:08.000 He's done.

00:08:08.000 He's on the list.

00:08:09.000 And by the way, we follow through.

00:08:12.000 When we isolate you, your political career is over. 0.95

00:08:15.000 Just ask Congresswoman Liz Cheney.

00:08:16.000 Oh, wait. 0.72

00:08:17.000 She's a cable news contributor now.

00:08:19.000 That's right.

00:08:21.000 Help me understand this.

00:08:23.000 Majorkis received a letter from Gallagher about textile imports.

00:08:28.000 I'm super confused.

00:08:29.000 Was this a Quid Bro quote?

00:08:31.000 Did Gallagher sell out the people of Wisconsin for some sort of special insider deal about importing clothes?

00:08:38.000 I saw that going around, and I asked the question about that today to clarify that's already illegal.

00:08:45.000 So that had to do with the Uyghurs in China. 0.96

00:08:48.000 And it's already against the law to import products made in China by slave labor. 0.54

00:08:56.000 So that should not be happening.

00:08:58.000 And if Maorkis was allowing imports to come into our country that were made by slave labor, there's another reason to impeach Maorkis.

00:09:06.000 So for Mike Gallagher as chairman of the CCP Select Committee, if he was having to ask Majorkis to stop these products from coming into America made by slave labor, well, then Mike Gallagher should have even had a bigger reason to impeach Majorkis.

00:09:23.000 So that's something I'm still trying to get some information on, but I saw that same thing going on on X last night.

00:09:30.000 And I'll see what I can find out for you.

00:09:33.000 Yeah.

00:09:34.000 So I'm reading here in the Wall Street Journal, Gallagher writes this piece about why he didn't vote for the impeachment of Majorkis.

00:09:45.000 And it's just babble.

00:09:47.000 It's just double speak.

00:09:48.000 It makes no sense at all.

00:09:51.000 So hopefully we can get this vote, MTG.

00:09:53.000 We're behind you 100%.

00:09:54.000 Keep the pressure on.

00:09:55.000 Our audience is so supportive of this.

00:09:58.000 This would be a real win.

00:09:59.000 It would put the pressure on the Senate.

00:10:02.000 How can our audience be most helpful here?

00:10:05.000 Well, I really appreciate it, Charlie.

00:10:07.000 And the biggest help that we need right now is for everyone to call your rep and let them know that impeaching Maorkis is an absolute must happen.

00:10:18.000 We can't let it go.

00:10:19.000 And that's the only way we can kill the Senate, the Senate border surrender bill that they are trying to keep on life support.

00:10:27.000 And we need to win.

00:10:28.000 We need to hold someone accountable in the Biden administration.

00:10:31.000 The border is number one top priority, and this is the way to get it done. 1.00

00:10:35.000 And we have to keep the pressure on.

00:10:37.000 Never let it off.

00:10:39.000 So I really thank everyone for making calls and sending messages.

00:10:44.000 That's the biggest help that we can have.

00:10:46.000 And I promise you, I won't give up.

00:10:48.000 We'll do everything we can to get it done next week.

00:10:51.000 And for all the great people up in northern Wisconsin, Green Bay area, we're going to mobilize all of you, and we will remove Mike Gallagher eventually.

00:10:59.000 Thank you, MTG.

00:11:00.000 Appreciate it.

00:11:00.000 Thanks a lot, Charlie.

00:11:04.000 Hey, everyone.

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00:12:08.000 Tyler Boyer is here to walk through all things RNC.

00:12:11.000 Do we have the Tim Burchett clip?

00:12:12.000 If not, we'll play that later.

00:12:15.000 It's all right.

00:12:16.000 All right, Tyler, so it looks like we're getting a new RNC chair.

00:12:18.000 Yeah.

00:12:19.000 This has been in the works, I think, for some time.

00:12:22.000 So I think that a lot of people realize this was a mistake.

00:12:26.000 That, you know, I think the major point to focus on right now at this exact moment is that everything that everyone was saying over a year ago was right.

00:12:37.000 That the grassroots was completely disconnected from the Republican Party, that the donors, large and small, were abandoning the Republican Party, right?

00:12:47.000 And the arguments that everyone had made for keeping Rana in place with the current RNC membership were wrong.

00:12:55.000 And I'm glad that there's some embracing acknowledgement of that.

00:12:59.000 Yes.

00:13:00.000 But, you know, there's a lot of intricacies here.

00:13:04.000 Some people see this as a big change.

00:13:06.000 There's actually not a lot of changes that are happening.

00:13:09.000 So let's kind of cut through it.

00:13:09.000 Yeah.

00:13:11.000 First, Tyler, I want to kind of just give you credit and praise here.

00:13:14.000 You're on the 168.

00:13:16.000 How long have you been?

00:13:17.000 You're up for election soon, right?

00:13:18.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:13:19.000 Honestly, any person that wants to run for the RNC is a crazy person.

00:13:24.000 I don't want to run.

00:13:25.000 Well, I'm not going to let you.

00:13:25.000 See, I'm not going to let you leave.

00:13:27.000 Well, I was a big promoter of- You're not a state committee man, so you're not going to have the vote.

00:13:33.000 I got enough stress on that.

00:13:34.000 But no, I was a big promoter, and we got you through the whole thing without a runoff.

00:13:38.000 And we'll tell that story later, but it's a fun story.

00:13:41.000 But when you first got on the committee, you know, you would text me at these, Charlie, this is worse than you could ever imagine.

00:13:46.000 Yeah.

00:13:47.000 There's no grassroots.

00:13:48.000 Yeah.

00:13:49.000 It's horrifying still.

00:13:50.000 I mean, every meeting I go to, it's more horrifying.

00:13:52.000 And they don't have a plan, and they have contempt for their voters.

00:13:55.000 They have contempt for this whole Real America's voice audience, by the way, the everyday, the plumbers, electricians, the welders.

00:14:00.000 There's no other way to look at it.

00:14:02.000 And so you started to build relationships in the committee, and you realized that there were more people that saw the world the way you did than the committee would ever acknowledge.

00:14:11.000 Is that fair to say?

00:14:12.000 Yeah, I think that most people that would consider themselves conservative, Charlie, they just, they were ignored for so long.

00:14:22.000 They're put into a box.

00:14:23.000 And that is, that has actually, we're in a different era.

00:14:28.000 This is maybe the first era ever in the Republican National Committee where there's conservatives that are outside of that box.

00:14:34.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 Where they actually have a voice.

00:14:37.000 There's some unity there.

00:14:38.000 And that's really scary to the establishment.

00:14:41.000 That's really scary to the people, the powers that be.

00:14:43.000 One thing I will give our show credit for is we've dedicated a lot of time talking about the committee.

00:14:48.000 Whereas before, this was not, this was not ever platformed in a long form way.

00:14:54.000 Yeah.

00:14:55.000 Is that a fair?

00:14:56.000 No, huge credit to what you've done.

00:15:00.000 You stood in the pocket on something that's not, I mean, there's no, you don't really gain anything from telling people the truth on these matters, right?

00:15:10.000 And that's why they've been ignored for so long.

00:15:12.000 Even people that were somewhat aware that have been in the media space for some time, you know, Rush was there forever, Minnie Foxos.

00:15:20.000 It's just wading into these things are tricky and they're highly political.

00:15:24.000 Yes.

00:15:24.000 And you're talking about some of the most powerful political people in the Republican Party in every state.

00:15:30.000 And so, I mean, I'm telling you, there's nothing that's more gratifying than to see the grassroots support the good guys who go in and fight those battles.

00:15:39.000 Because in years past, it's been just a handful of people.

00:15:39.000 That's right.

00:15:42.000 Now we have like almost half of the committee is there.

00:15:46.000 Yeah, Morton must be thrilled, by the way.

00:15:48.000 Morton Blackwell.

00:15:49.000 Yeah, you know, I rode a train with him this week.

00:15:52.000 I love my way back.

00:15:54.000 He's been like holding down the conservative remnants.

00:15:56.000 He was like the only guy in some of those years.

00:15:58.000 He really was.

00:15:59.000 He was like the OG rabble rouser, right? 1.00

00:16:02.000 And it's funny, I asked him about that when we were on the train, and he said, you know, a lot of people come and go.

00:16:02.000 Yeah.

00:16:08.000 And I'm like, well, Morton, like, we're going to hopefully memorialize this and keep it here today.

00:16:13.000 Yeah, he deserves a lot of credit.

00:16:14.000 I love Morton to death.

00:16:16.000 And he's always been like a super conservative voice as like on the grassroots side.

00:16:20.000 Totally on the side of the game.

00:16:21.000 And just so everyone understands, it's like a country club and it's not there yet.

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:25.000 But Tyler, if my math is right, we're getting close to almost a majority of the RNC that is in touch at the grassroots.

00:16:32.000 Yeah.

00:16:32.000 Are we close?

00:16:33.000 And this is important for everyone at home to understand.

00:16:35.000 There is two-thirds of the elections for the RNC membership happen over the course of the next three months.

00:16:42.000 So literally two-thirds of the entire RNC could be turned over.

00:16:46.000 That's the clear majority of the RNC.

00:16:49.000 And the most important vote that the RNC members have is to ultimately elect leadership.

00:16:53.000 So now you have this conversation about Rana stepping down.

00:16:57.000 It's up to the RNC membership.

00:16:59.000 Obviously, President Trump's opinion weighs heavily on certain people, but it's tricky.

00:17:05.000 It's different.

00:17:06.000 You have 168 members.

00:17:08.000 There's a lot of people on that committee that hate President Trump, that dislike President Trump, that aren't big Trump fans.

00:17:14.000 But there's a lot of people on that committee as well that love President Trump.

00:17:17.000 Totally.

00:17:17.000 And I just, you know, there's a lot of people on social media taking credit that we're not interested in any of that.

00:17:21.000 But you know who deserves praise?

00:17:22.000 You guys, the audience.

00:17:23.000 You guys gave business to the RNC when they call you for money.

00:17:26.000 You're like, no, actually, you guys aren't delivering results.

00:17:28.000 That's who made it happen.

00:17:29.000 You guys made it happen.

00:17:30.000 You kept the pressure on.

00:17:32.000 You guys demanded better.

00:17:33.000 And hopefully, you'll get better because we're not there yet.

00:17:36.000 And we need to talk about that.

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00:18:49.000 It's a great development, everybody.

00:18:50.000 We'll continue with Tyler Boyer in a second here, but the party's changing.

00:18:53.000 The grassroots are gaining voice.

00:18:56.000 One of the reasons they're gaining voice is shows like this, podcasting, social media, that the old way of doing business.

00:19:02.000 They used to be able to just hide behind a collection of radio programs, a collection of newspaper outlets, a collection of op-eds, and a collection of TV channels.

00:19:10.000 And the grassroots didn't have a vector to voice their opinion.

00:19:14.000 And it was just kind of like, oh, you're in the grassroots, like whatever.

00:19:18.000 Because of digital social media and our embracing of digital social media, and by our, I mean us collectively, we can make the RNC a grassroots party again.

00:19:28.000 Tyler Boyer continues.

00:19:30.000 So Tyler, a year ago, real quick on Patriot Mobile.

00:19:33.000 All the networks, I think that this is going to be the new social media thing this year.

00:19:37.000 All the major mobile networks, I think, are going to shut down conservatives and texting and getting out the vote.

00:19:41.000 Oh, that's interesting.

00:19:42.000 Patriot Mobile, if you sign on Patriot Mobile, you know that's never going to happen to you.

00:19:46.000 So conservatives are interested in that.

00:19:47.000 That's going to be the new parlor.

00:19:48.000 Getting out the vote, if you try to do it on ATT, T-Mobile, we're already seeing this already happening where they're shutting down conservatives just like they were shutting down their bank accounts, just like they were shutting down their social media.

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00:20:01.000 So that's a reason.

00:20:02.000 We should have some preemptive House hearings on this.

00:20:05.000 Yes.

00:20:06.000 I'm going to text Speaker Johnson.

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00:20:15.000 I'm going to talk to Speaker Johnson.

00:20:17.000 We need to subpoena all the heads, the telecom companies, and get them on the record that they're not going to interfere.

00:20:22.000 So can you just elaborate on that?

00:20:23.000 So let's say that we have 100,000 voters that we want to try to get them out to the polls.

00:20:29.000 So theoretically, the telecom companies could say you can't do that.

00:20:32.000 So historically, when you've gone out the vote by text message, like just even your friends, the telecom companies will shut you down after like 1,000 or 2,000 messages to avoid spam, like pretty normal stuff.

00:20:44.000 And most people don't send 1,000 text messages in one sitting in one day.

00:20:48.000 Now we're seeing, and this is reports that are coming out of places in Utah.

00:20:53.000 We just had this happen in Delaware and other places where we're seeing T-Mobile and ATT shutting down people after as few as 50 text messages.

00:21:04.000 And then they're locked out of their account.

00:21:07.000 They can't send text messages.

00:21:09.000 They're done.

00:21:10.000 They're toast.

00:21:11.000 And so this is get out the vote.

00:21:14.000 This is the warning flag right now.

00:21:16.000 If you're planning on helping get out the vote and text even more than a few dozen people.

00:21:21.000 And I have a feeling that's happening to people that are conservative.

00:21:24.000 They know you're conservative by the apps you download on your phone.

00:21:27.000 They know you're conservative by the phone calls you make.

00:21:30.000 So true.

00:21:30.000 So it's not even geographically.

00:21:33.000 Even geographically.

00:21:34.000 It's like we saw what happened with the vote center shutting down in Arizona.

00:21:37.000 I mean, this is a very real attack that we have to be prepared for this year.

00:21:44.000 If you switch to Patriot Mobile now, you're not going to have those problems.

00:21:47.000 That's great.

00:21:48.000 PatriotMobile.com slash Charlie.

00:21:50.000 And I'm going to get on Speaker Johnson.

00:21:52.000 Speaker Johnson, he's trying to do better.

00:21:55.000 I was rather spicy to him a couple weeks ago.

00:21:57.000 His great credit gave me a call and we're giving him another chance.

00:22:00.000 So patriotmobile.com slash Charlie.

00:22:02.000 So the grassroots are gaining voice.

00:22:03.000 Can you just talk about this more broadly?

00:22:05.000 This is a development that DC doesn't like.

00:22:07.000 They think it's going to go away.

00:22:08.000 They don't realize that the grassroots now all have the super weapon called a phone in their right-hand pocket.

00:22:13.000 Access to social media, the ability to hold members accountable.

00:22:16.000 20 years ago, they didn't really have this.

00:22:18.000 20 years ago, it was just, it was very disconnected, maybe a meeting a year.

00:22:22.000 But the game has changed and the utilization of digital social media influencer type methodology, it's improved our chances to have a better party.

00:22:32.000 Yeah, I mean, just the speed, the RC is taking advantage of the lack of communication and the speed of communication being very slow between the grassroots.

00:22:42.000 Totally true.

00:22:42.000 So it takes years to ultimately take over an RC position, right?

00:22:47.000 You have to become a super activist, a county chair, state party chair, and that takes years of development.

00:22:54.000 So it's no surprise that we're in that period following Trump getting elected in 2016 now where people have become more aware and more involved and all of that.

00:23:04.000 And now there's conflict because, again, a majority of people who are involved at the grassroots level and your county parties, the precinct level are now very much pro-Trump.

00:23:15.000 We're seeing this in things.

00:23:17.000 They're very much pro-America first. 0.62

00:23:19.000 They're wanting to fight.

00:23:20.000 And this is what I call the Tea Party on steroids.

00:23:24.000 The Tea Party back in 2010 just didn't know any of this stuff, right?

00:23:28.000 It had no idea about the party apparatus, how to take it over, all that stuff.

00:23:32.000 And many great conservatives learned, but they aged out.

00:23:35.000 So a lot of those Tea Party.

00:23:36.000 That's totally true.

00:23:37.000 Jim DeMint would be an example.

00:23:38.000 Yeah, they were boomers.

00:23:40.000 And so now at this point, they're like past the point of retirement, right?

00:23:43.000 And so now you have all these younger people, middle-aged people have come in through MAGA and through the Trump era, and they're learning things much more quickly than the Tea Party did in 2010.

00:23:54.000 Yeah, an example is the Tea Party had all this power and it was largely taken advantage of by John Boehner and Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor and all these things.

00:24:00.000 And the party, the RNC, the apparatus.

00:24:02.000 And don't forget that the Unit Party was authorizing the Obama Treasury Department to audit the Tea Party.

00:24:08.000 The Tea Party was an existential threat to the Uniparty.

00:24:10.000 Donald Trump in some ways kept the... kept the aura of the Tea Party alive.

00:24:15.000 He saw the power of it.

00:24:17.000 He spoke at a lot of Tea Party rallies.

00:24:19.000 And now MAGA is bigger than MAGA.

00:24:21.000 This is now something that they're never going to be able to control.

00:24:23.000 It is a permanent sea change.

00:24:25.000 Yeah.

00:24:25.000 And this is, so that kind of brings us to where we are today, where it's like people are more acutely aware of who's who and what's what, what they believe because of social media, because of speed of communication, because of technology, as you mentioned.

00:24:41.000 And so now it's our job to ensure that they're correctly represented.

00:24:46.000 And in many states, people are becoming aware now, largely because of this program and some others.

00:24:51.000 Steve has been great and a few others and making people aware.

00:24:54.000 Bannon's been a pioneer here.

00:24:56.000 Yeah.

00:24:57.000 And really, this is a teamwork effort, right?

00:24:59.000 So you look at all the conservative media that's now, nobody's on the side of the establishment.

00:25:04.000 And if they are, the only people that are, sorry to interrupt, they have built-in cable box time where they just, it's just kind of white noise.

00:25:12.000 Yeah.

00:25:13.000 Meaning they don't have to earn their audience.

00:25:14.000 Yeah.

00:25:15.000 The only people that I see that are defending the status quo and the establishment are people who are paid to do that.

00:25:22.000 That's right.

00:25:22.000 And that's where it's like, you got to pick your battles here.

00:25:26.000 But the battle that we have to have right now is it's not okay to allow more election losses because we have a much more competent grassroots than we've ever had.

00:25:37.000 We have people who are fighters and willing to fight.

00:25:40.000 We have really talented people who deserve to be in those roles because the vast majority of the conservative movement supports those people.

00:25:47.000 And so just standing by and allowing the status quo to continue to exist because, oh, that's like a, that's like not a fight worth taking.

00:25:55.000 That's just not true.

00:25:56.000 We have to have a party that's representative of our base.

00:25:59.000 The left has figured this out many, many years ago.

00:26:02.000 If you have a party that's that it represents your base, then you have fewer battles and you win more.

00:26:07.000 Yes.

00:26:08.000 So I want to go to this tweet here.

00:26:10.000 Again, I'm not caught up.

00:26:12.000 People think I'm on the inside of this stuff.

00:26:16.000 Tyler tells me what to do.

00:26:18.000 So I want your tweet here.

00:26:19.000 It looks like a fight is breaking out for chair.

00:26:21.000 Conservatives lobbying for Drew McKissick take over interim chair instead of Rana's pick, Michael Watley.

00:26:25.000 Just who are these people?

00:26:26.000 What are the top picks?

00:26:27.000 What's going on here?

00:26:29.000 I'm a bystander.

00:26:30.000 So really briefly, because we're limited on time, but last election for RNC leadership, which was last January, Rana ran.

00:26:37.000 Most people were focused on that, but you had the co-chair election, the treasurer's election, and the secretary's election.

00:26:42.000 There was basically no, not a huge battle over secretary.

00:26:46.000 And everybody knows the chair election, but the co-chair and the treasurer's election were really interesting because Drew McKissick ran against two other guys who are considering more establishment and Michael Watley, who was the pick of Rana, who's been known as like Rana's guy.

00:27:04.000 She's told everyone that.

00:27:05.000 That's not something that we've told.

00:27:07.000 She told everybody, like, the pick is Michael Watley.

00:27:10.000 And so Trump ended up endorsing Michael Watley, but mostly for North Carolina chair.

00:27:15.000 For co-chair, for the North Carolina chair as co-chair.

00:27:19.000 And he ended up losing.

00:27:21.000 He didn't just lose.

00:27:22.000 He lost.

00:27:22.000 He came in third place.

00:27:25.000 He didn't even come in second place.

00:27:26.000 He came in third place in that round.

00:27:29.000 He dropped out, clearly didn't have the votes because most of the conservatives opted for the better option, which was Drew McKissick at the time.

00:27:37.000 And again, I know there's a lot of conservatives who are in South Carolina, not fans of Drew McKissick.

00:27:42.000 I just want to put that out there, but I'm framing what happened.

00:27:45.000 So Trump also endorsed at the time the treasurer candidate, Joe Gruters, who's the former chair of Florida.

00:27:51.000 He lost to the conservative-backed Casey Crosby from Kentucky, who had ran Paul Support and everything else, who was supported by conservatives.

00:28:00.000 So this was mainly because in the body, the conservatives had already picked a different candidate.

00:28:06.000 And then when Trump endorsed, I think all the people that dislike Trump actually ended up supporting those candidates as well.

00:28:12.000 Really complex, but that body hasn't changed, right?

00:28:15.000 So it's still the same body.

00:28:16.000 It's still the same people until these elections occur.

00:28:19.000 These elections will occur over the next two to three months, but they don't take seats until after the convention.

00:28:25.000 So just to distill it, it's going to, so if Rana steps down in a couple of weeks, which is what she said, what is the process then of getting a new chair?

00:28:32.000 Well, it's an election, right?

00:28:33.000 But everybody's looking at Trump.

00:28:35.000 Yeah, it has to be, I think it has to be in person.

00:28:37.000 I don't think they can do it digitally.

00:28:39.000 Then does the co-chair become chair?

00:28:40.000 So the co-chair is interim chair.

00:28:42.000 Who is the current chair?

00:28:43.000 Who is that?

00:28:44.000 Drew McKissick from South Carolina.

00:28:46.000 So he would become interim president.

00:28:47.000 So he's the interim chair until we have an election.

00:28:49.000 And that will be in the spring meeting, which is one.

00:28:52.000 April, most likely.

00:28:53.000 We don't even know where it's at yet.

00:28:55.000 Most likely April.

00:28:56.000 But, you know, there could be a different plan that starts to formulate.

00:29:00.000 But again, this is where the battle exists because now people are saying, okay, well, you know, it's not good enough to have somebody that's just going to be like the equal to Rana taking over for Rana.

00:29:10.000 Now, I'll say this: both Michael and Drew, I think, are better than where we're at currently.

00:29:18.000 But I think it's really important.

00:29:19.000 And a couple of other people have said this.

00:29:21.000 If we have a really strong grassroots co-chair, that would go a long way to ensuring that conservatives have a seat at the table.

00:29:29.000 So here's the other trick is according to RNC bylaws, if you have a male chair, you need a female co-chair.

00:29:33.000 Yeah, and I put that out.

00:29:34.000 Vice versa.

00:29:35.000 I put that out.

00:29:35.000 I thought more people were aware of this now.

00:29:37.000 They thought you were some sort of woke guy.

00:29:39.000 But they thought I was like saying that I want a female chair.

00:29:42.000 No, if you have a male chair, you have to have a female co-chair. 0.97

00:29:44.000 If you have a female chair, you have to have a male co-chair. 0.99

00:29:46.000 That's in the bylaws.

00:29:47.000 So if Michael Watley has the votes with the current RNC delegation, which supported Rana, and remember, these are all the same people, right?

00:29:57.000 So if Michael has those votes, which he probably does, you know, he probably does.

00:30:02.000 I'm just going to be, I'm just cutting it straight.

00:30:03.000 He probably does.

00:30:04.000 That means Drew McKissick, who's the current co-chair, can't be co-chair. 0.97

00:30:08.000 A female has to be co-chair. 1.00

00:30:10.000 So my suggestion is, is if that's the case and it's baked in and it's whatever, you know, I think that we can work with people.

00:30:17.000 I hope we can.

00:30:18.000 I hope changes can come that are necessary and he's willing to listen to those things, where I don't think Rana was, but you need a female coach here that's a solid conservative and we've we've come up with some options for that.

00:30:28.000 Okay, so Tyler, do you think that the cake is baked on Watley?

00:30:33.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:30:34.000 I'm saying if it is, then you have to have a female co-chair.

00:30:38.000 And if that's the case, right, what we don't want to see happen, I think it would be. 0.99

00:30:43.000 Who are some of the candidates for female coaches?

00:30:44.000 Well, so, you know, there's been lots of words.

00:30:48.000 So let me preface it by saying this.

00:30:51.000 You want a conservative co-chair, if that's the case, right?

00:30:54.000 That's what you want.

00:30:55.000 Have to.

00:30:56.000 You know, there's been some floating going around saying certain names aren't being considered. 0.97

00:31:00.000 You know, Jessica Patterson, who's the current California GOP chair.

00:31:04.000 Would she be a grassroots pick? 0.89

00:31:06.000 No.

00:31:07.000 So Jessica's been known to be, you know, in the California GOP is probably the opposite side of that.

00:31:15.000 I've always gone, I have nothing.

00:31:16.000 No, I'm just, I'm just trying to nothing negative to say about Jessica.

00:31:19.000 She's always been very turning alongside of the audience here.

00:31:21.000 She's always been very pleasant.

00:31:22.000 Sure.

00:31:23.000 But I think the grassroots in California will hit your email box right now.

00:31:26.000 If read them at charliekirk.com and tell you what how they feel.

00:31:29.000 Well, they've been hitting me on some of these other names.

00:31:31.000 I just huge no to Drew.

00:31:32.000 Huge no to Watley.

00:31:33.000 I mean, people are fired up.

00:31:35.000 I'm just learning.

00:31:36.000 So, if Jessica is paired with Drew or Michael, I think that would be extraordinarily bad because the grassroots would go, this is maybe worse than Rana.

00:31:47.000 Now, my suggestion is if it's baked in, have an ultra, ultra, ultra America first, strong Trump supporting co-chair.

00:31:58.000 And you've got a couple of really great options.

00:32:01.000 You've got Julianne Murray, who's the chair of Delaware, who stuck it to Hunter Biden.

00:32:07.000 She won in court.

00:32:08.000 She's the reason why, like, there's this epicenter focus on Hunter Biden.

00:32:12.000 She's incredible. 0.99

00:32:13.000 Conservative. 1.00

00:32:13.000 She beat the lady that was endorsed by Rana to become chair of Delaware. 1.00

00:32:18.000 She lost by a few thousand votes as AG in Delaware.

00:32:21.000 So Julianne Murray in Delaware, tremendous. 0.58

00:32:24.000 Steve has had her on his show.

00:32:26.000 She's incredible.

00:32:27.000 She's been on with us on podcasts. 0.57

00:32:30.000 She not only stuck it to Hunter Biden, but she also eliminated no excuse expansion of early voting in Delaware.

00:32:39.000 I mean, if you want an election integrity expert, somebody that's like fighting the actual fight that's done it in Blue State, she's incredible.

00:32:47.000 And if Hunter Biden, I'm sorry, Hunter Biden.

00:32:50.000 Joe Biden is on the ballot.

00:32:51.000 Hunter Biden's on the ballot, by the way, this year.

00:32:53.000 You want her to like go around. 0.67

00:32:54.000 She could go around to all the states, raise all the money in the world, and be a true voice for the grassroots. 0.96

00:32:59.000 I think she's a genius pick as co-chair if you need a female co-chair. 0.99

00:33:03.000 The second would be, of course, Harmee Dillon. 1.00

00:33:06.000 Harmee was the only one that had the guts, the intestinal fortitude to run against Rana and bring up all incredible parties.

00:33:13.000 Harmeet would be amazing. 0.92

00:33:14.000 And she would actually force the lawfare issue, which we need, again, fighting for election integrity, which is not happening to the level it should in the RNC.

00:33:22.000 Okay.

00:33:22.000 I just love the audience.

00:33:25.000 I want to try to clear up the confusion.

00:33:28.000 Somebody is very angry.

00:33:29.000 Chart, why do you guys keep on saying a woman needs to be chair?

00:33:31.000 Can you just reiterate that?

00:33:33.000 Okay.

00:33:33.000 So the rules of the RNC, the bylaws that will not be changed.

00:33:36.000 That have been there for over 100 years, probably since we gave women the right to vote, right?

00:33:43.000 That was probably where this started, to be honest with you.

00:33:47.000 Says that if you have a chair that's a male, you have to have a female co-chair, which is like the vice chair and vice versa, right? 0.81

00:33:54.000 So if you have a female chair, you have to have a male co-chair.

00:33:57.000 This is not up to us.

00:33:58.000 I think the rule should go. 0.99

00:34:00.000 I think we should change the rules at the RNC convention and like be like, this is like so outdated and so stupid. 0.98

00:34:05.000 We should have the best two people. 1.00

00:34:06.000 It's so dumb. 0.99

00:34:07.000 It's like DEI, like people. 0.99

00:34:09.000 But these are the rules.

00:34:10.000 See, you can't change the rules unless you change the rules, which can only happen at the end of the convention, which we might bring up in the future.

00:34:17.000 But anyway, the point being is you got to play with those rules.

00:34:20.000 So that's the reason why we have a male and female tandem, right?

00:34:23.000 You have to always have that. 0.77

00:34:24.000 So grassroots really fired up.

00:34:26.000 We're getting hundreds of emails right now about a lot of the names you discussed.

00:34:29.000 So what are the marching orders here?

00:34:31.000 If Rana's gone, somebody said, Charlie, I'm afraid that the fix is in, that this is just one hand washing the other.

00:34:38.000 What is your analysis here?

00:34:39.000 How do we get a grassroots victory?

00:34:40.000 We have dozens of fighters in the RNC right now that want to ensure that doesn't happen.

00:34:45.000 And I didn't mention the third name, Casey Crosby, who's the current treasurer, who beat the more establishment pick.

00:34:54.000 And I get along with Joe.

00:34:55.000 So I don't think that's speaking against them, but she was the conservative pick.

00:34:59.000 So you have three options in the RNC.

00:35:03.000 You don't have to pick someone from the India inside the RNC.

00:35:05.000 It could be someone from outside the RNC.

00:35:06.000 So this is another question.

00:35:07.000 Can somebody from the outside the RNC come in?

00:35:09.000 Could you have Lee Zeldon be the chair?

00:35:12.000 Yeah, you could.

00:35:13.000 You could have Lee Zeldon and Harmeet.

00:35:16.000 You could have Lee Zeldon and Julianne Murray.

00:35:18.000 You could have Lee Zeldon and Lara Trump.

00:35:20.000 You could have, I mean, there's a lot of different options that you can have because the chair and co-chair don't have to be from the body.

00:35:25.000 The problem is, and Harmeet said this last night on the space, Twitter space that we were on, was that you've got 168 people who think that they're like the most important political person on planet Earth, and they just like usually to pick from that body.

00:35:40.000 That's the reason why most of the time.

00:35:41.000 At the same time, they don't like it when attention is drawn to them.

00:35:45.000 They like to be the most important person.

00:35:47.000 It's like the Roman Senate, but you can't, you don't.

00:35:49.000 It's like the Romanian.

00:35:50.000 It's like the Roman Senate, except the Roman Senate probably operated this way, to be honest with you.

00:35:54.000 It's like complete anonymity, but I have all the power.

00:35:56.000 That's right.

00:35:57.000 It's very strange.

00:35:58.000 They don't want a public vote on anything.

00:36:02.000 They like to be in charge and control, but they don't want to be held responsible for anything they decide.

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00:36:48.000 So the grassroots are looking for marching orders.

00:36:53.000 It's two-pronged.

00:36:54.000 We can't lose attention to state party chair races and all of that in the coming months, right?

00:36:58.000 So you got, number one, we've got to get the most conservative person you possibly can in representing your state in the RNC.

00:37:06.000 If you're not aware, you need to get involved.

00:37:08.000 You're going to have conventions coming up, votes coming up in the next three months.

00:37:12.000 You must get involved in order to do that, particularly in these key target states.

00:37:15.000 I think conservatives are going to get a lot of really good people elected this year, and that's good.

00:37:20.000 The second thing, though, is like we can't let this battle now needs to be fought because next January, Trump's going to get elected, right?

00:37:28.000 We're going to win.

00:37:29.000 We're doing everything we possibly can to lead this out in the field.

00:37:33.000 We're doing this.

00:37:33.000 And here in Arizona, we're doing the ballot chasing and everything else.

00:37:36.000 We're doing everything we possibly can.

00:37:38.000 January, we'll have another election for RNC chair.

00:37:41.000 And so if Trump gets elected, he's going to pick, but we've got to make sure that we line up really good options for him and don't set up a bad person just to continue running the RNC while Trump's in the presidency because this is operationally how you have people internally working against your own president.

00:37:57.000 This is operationally how you have people working against the grassroots who are trying to support the president.

00:38:02.000 And sometimes it's indirect in that way.

00:38:04.000 And that's been the observation and the concern that many people have had is you have all these consultants, you have all these different things going on in these different states, and we're not running as efficiently or as effectively as we possibly could be.

00:38:15.000 That's why people are upset and they're like, Scott Pressler should be chair.

00:38:18.000 You know, I don't know if Scott Pressler wants to be chair, but what I do know is that whoever is the chair needs to subjugate themselves to say what Scott Pressler is doing is really incredible.

00:38:27.000 And we need a thousand more Scott Presslers and we need to invest into that.

00:38:30.000 100%.

00:38:31.000 And that at minimum, that's what the RNC should be doing, right?

00:38:34.000 Because the RNC shouldn't be doing everything.

00:38:35.000 That's basic stuff, though.

00:38:36.000 That's basic stuff.

00:38:37.000 Look, as far as the functional part of the RNC, you need to have a fundraising wing that can raise as much capital as possible.

00:38:43.000 And then you need a grassroots division that listens to groups like us, embraces them, and puts forward a plan to win.

00:38:49.000 Yeah, and does the perfunctory stuff well, right?

00:38:51.000 Like debates should be done well.

00:38:54.000 The convention should be done as cheaply and as well as possible.

00:38:58.000 Yeah, I mean, we shouldn't blow $100 million in this convention.

00:39:01.000 Rana should be holding our electeds accountable. 0.96

00:39:04.000 That's the job.

00:39:05.000 Go through this again. 1.00

00:39:06.000 The RNC actually needs to hold elected officials accountable. 0.96

00:39:08.000 That's quite a concept.

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00:39:22.000 We're doing it.

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00:39:26.000 It's basically our staff meetings where we're talking about what's going on and we're just putting it live so everybody can follow along.

00:39:32.000 Okay, anyways, going back to this conversation.

00:39:34.000 So, you know, the RNC's job really should be to hold, I mean, they're in, they're right next door to Congress in D.C. to hold Congress accountable, not just become like basically the errand boy for Congress.

00:39:46.000 And my biggest concern that I've witnessed is I've seen leadership just act like they're just like taking orders from Mitch McConnell.

00:39:54.000 And that's a real problem, right?

00:39:56.000 Because the RNC's job is to elect a president.

00:40:00.000 If there's one solid central job, it's like the RNC's job is to make sure that we nominate and we elect a president of the United States.

00:40:08.000 All the other stuff is secondary.

00:40:10.000 You have the NRSC for Senate.

00:40:11.000 You have the NRCC for House.

00:40:13.000 You have the battles and you have RGA for governors.

00:40:16.000 The RNC's job is president.

00:40:18.000 So when you have the RNC taking orders from the NRCC or the NRSC, right, on the Senate and the congressional side, then you become an element, a cog in the wheel of Kevin McCarthy or Mitch McConnell or whoever, right?

00:40:33.000 And no matter how you feel about those gentlemen, right?

00:40:36.000 But you essentially, what you do is you change your focus from president to now trying to win the House or trying to win the Senate back.

00:40:44.000 That's their job.

00:40:45.000 Yeah.

00:40:45.000 Their job is to do that.

00:40:46.000 And I think Mitch McConnell's done a terrible job at that, right?

00:40:49.000 Like he could have, we could have won at least two or three more states last year.

00:40:52.000 Easily, Adam Laxall being one of them.

00:40:53.000 Laxall being one of them, Georgia being one of them.

00:40:55.000 Herschel here in Arizona, we could have actually had some kind of resources dumped in.

00:40:59.000 I think if we would have mixed salary resources, we would have won.

00:41:02.000 But that is, that is the conversation.

00:41:04.000 So it's really frustrating to watch RNC leadership just become like, again, subjugated to those people because that's how you lose everything.

00:41:14.000 And so I think what the argument is, is like, hey, if we had an RNC that's more grassroots focused, where we're like not fighting ourselves 90% of the time and we're actually standing up and trying to get the guy that is the clear nominee elected.

00:41:26.000 Yes.

00:41:27.000 And then we're holding those people accountable.

00:41:29.000 So they're not screwing that process up, you know, in the Senate races, in the House races.

00:41:34.000 We're going to win a lot more.

00:41:36.000 Yes.

00:41:36.000 So you only do that if you get a good leader or a good set of leadership in chair and co-chair, you know, which has to be male or female, which we just covered 10 times.

00:41:45.000 That's who you, that's who that's who you have to focus on.

00:41:48.000 And if you send dumb people who are just basically figments and elements of consultant class or chamber of consultant class people, you're going to get bad people in those in those roles and you're going to keep losing. 0.93

00:42:02.000 Final thing here, Tyler. 0.99

00:42:03.000 Just you, you, you glazed over this.

00:42:05.000 We're hiring up huge at turning point action.

00:42:07.000 We're not just talkers here.

00:42:08.000 We have it.

00:42:08.000 We are going to have an unprecedented staffing deployment.

00:42:12.000 We've raised some capital for it.

00:42:13.000 Not as much as we should, but we're getting there.

00:42:15.000 How many full-time people does the RNC have in Arizona?

00:42:18.000 One.

00:42:18.000 How many will we have by April 15th?

00:42:21.000 Well, we already have about two dozen, and we will have by April 1st hundreds.

00:42:29.000 Full-time.

00:42:29.000 So I don't want to put this out because every time that we say a number, the left clips because they watch this every single time.

00:42:35.000 Oh, they have full-time people.

00:42:36.000 They have full-time people that are watching this.

00:42:38.000 Hey, guys.

00:42:40.000 But they know the left is freaking out.

00:42:42.000 It's going to be a sizable staffing deployment.

00:42:44.000 They know that we are going to have thousands of volunteers and possibly thousands of full-time people here.

00:42:51.000 And so now they're really reconsidering the left.

00:42:54.000 When I say they, the left is reconsidering what type of emphasis they're going to put in Arizona because they're not sure they can win Arizona now because we're finally doing this stuff.

00:43:02.000 Yeah, that, and you're going to tell you.

00:43:03.000 It's over the target.

00:43:04.000 Yeah.

00:43:04.000 If they, if they go, if I was the Democrats, I shouldn't say it this way, but what I think the Democrats are going to do is they're going to go all in unprotected Wisconsin.

00:43:12.000 They have to.

00:43:13.000 So Wisconsin is going to be a bloodbath.

00:43:15.000 It's going to be a defensive play because they can lose Arizona and even lose Georgia and spend $500 million in Wisconsin.

00:43:22.000 And then Joe Biden's president.

00:43:23.000 Yeah, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania is their strategy.

00:43:27.000 I think they're going to try to rebuild the blue wall.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, I think I agree.

00:43:30.000 I actually think that Michigan is so screwed up on their election code.

00:43:34.000 So this is what we're seeing on the ground, by the way.

00:43:36.000 Yeah, this is not just, by the way, this is not just baseless speculation.

00:43:39.000 This is actual data.

00:43:41.000 They're a disaster in Arizona.

00:43:42.000 And part of the reason why they're a disaster is because if RFK is on the ballot in Arizona and Georgia, those numbers bode very poorly for the Democrats, mainly because center-left voters that are under the age of 40, and this is polling, right?

00:43:57.000 Have said they're really interested in voting for Kirsten Cinema and RFK Jr.

00:44:01.000 And that doesn't help them because now they have to find different pockets.

00:44:04.000 Yeah, this is again, if again, the Democrats will know by June their strategy because they're going to have to make final deployments.

00:44:12.000 Probably earlier than that.

00:44:13.000 But they, cinema is not their favorite.

00:44:17.000 So they might just let her kind of go out.

00:44:19.000 Gallego is a super radical.

00:44:20.000 They would like to pick it up.

00:44:22.000 But presidentially, Biden, if you're Biden, you run on the abortion play in the upper Midwest, where it's proven to win when it's a single ballot referendum type thing.

00:44:33.000 They have relaxed voting laws.

00:44:35.000 Arizona is prone for a center-right political correction right now.

00:44:38.000 Do you agree?

00:44:39.000 Yeah.

00:44:40.000 The prerequisites are set for Donald Trump to win this state.

00:44:42.000 Same with Georgia.

00:44:43.000 No, I'm just, I know both these states, by the way, we're not registering Republicans.

00:44:47.000 Republicans are registering Democrats in Arizona.

00:44:49.000 Yeah.

00:44:49.000 And Georgia.

00:44:50.000 Oh, yeah.

00:44:51.000 And the inward migration is actually helping. 0.89

00:44:53.000 We're getting our ballot chasing act together.

00:44:55.000 Trump has always done well in the state, better than, you know.

00:44:58.000 So if you're the Democrats, you're thinking, well, how do you prevent Donald Trump from coming president?

00:45:02.000 You rebuild the blue wall.

00:45:04.000 The money ball equation for Arizona right now, and this is as someone that knows a thing or two about Arizona, the money ball equation for the Democrats in Arizona right now is looking very bad.

00:45:14.000 Yes.

00:45:14.000 And here's the big thing.

00:45:15.000 But it's looking good for them in Wisconsin.

00:45:18.000 They have to win Wisconsin, so they don't have a choice, right?

00:45:20.000 So no matter what they do, Wisconsin is a must for them.

00:45:25.000 And it's a historical must, right?

00:45:27.000 They've proven this, and they have more established.

00:45:29.000 So they have 50 groups in Wisconsin that are already on the ground there.

00:45:32.000 Arizona, they don't have that.

00:45:34.000 Georgia, they don't have that.

00:45:35.000 And now that Mark Kelly's gone, they don't have this.

00:45:37.000 Mark Kelly's not on the ballot.

00:45:39.000 That's evaporated, right?

00:45:39.000 He had a thousand full-time people.

00:45:41.000 They're not around right now.

00:45:42.000 They're trying to get an abortion thing on the ballot.

00:45:44.000 But if that fails and that doesn't get on the ballot, then they're really toast here.

00:45:48.000 And again, the attitude of Arizona is far more center-right than Wisconsin.

00:45:52.000 Totally.

00:45:52.000 It's not even close.

00:45:53.000 Yeah, we're an independent.

00:45:55.000 Arizona's been a goofy political state the last couple of cycles for multiple reasons.

00:45:58.000 It's just like when you have a smaller population, and when I say smaller, Arizona's big, but growing like it's smaller than Pennsylvania, right?

00:46:05.000 It's just easier to take advantage of.

00:46:06.000 And that's the same.

00:46:07.000 That's smart.

00:46:08.000 So Maricopa County and Fulton County are both similar in the way that they're still easy to take advantage of.

00:46:14.000 But not if Republicans wake up.

00:46:16.000 And that all of a sudden, if you get your act together, a little bit of organization has an exponential impact in states where you've been taking advantage of it.

00:46:23.000 And their whole money ball equation, it doesn't take into consideration us doing anything, right?

00:46:27.000 So our side doing things on top of already their bad equation becomes a situation where it's like, it doesn't make reasonable sense to dump $100 million on Arizona.

00:46:38.000 I will close with this.

00:46:39.000 Last thing.

00:46:40.000 The RNC guys deserve credit for one thing, and I say this non-sarcastically.

00:46:44.000 Having the convention in Milwaukee is a smart thing.

00:46:46.000 Yeah.

00:46:46.000 It was a smart thing.

00:46:47.000 Yeah.

00:46:48.000 That's true.

00:46:48.000 Because I think it's all going to come down.

00:46:49.000 No-brainer.

00:46:49.000 I think the whole civilization is going to come down to Wisconsin.

00:46:52.000 Tyler, great work.

00:46:52.000 We got to go.

00:46:55.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:46:57.000 Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:46:59.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - February 07, 2024

Ronna Is Out… Right?

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