The Charlie Kirk Show - Russian Aggression and the Soros Agenda with Jack Posobiec & Jack Hibbs

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00:00:01.000 Two Jacks explain what is happening in Ukraine. 0.96

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00:01:42.000 Mitt Romney has called Tulsi Gabbard many things.

00:01:47.000 They're in this kind of dispute back and forth, calling her treasonous and calling her the worst things you can call somebody, basically.

00:01:56.000 And all because she asked the questions about whether or not there were United States-funded biolaboratories in Ukraine.

00:02:04.000 Republican Senator Mitt Romney says Tulsi Gabbard is treasonous.

00:02:07.000 Her treasonous lies could cost lives after she claimed the United States is operating labs making nuclear weapons in Ukraine. 0.96

00:02:14.000 With us right now is Jack Pisobic.

00:02:16.000 He's a great patriot and friend of the program.

00:02:18.000 And we're going to ask him about that and so much more.

00:02:20.000 Jack, welcome back to the program.

00:02:22.000 Hey, Charlie, always a pleasure.

00:02:23.000 So, Jack, what is the truth behind the biolaboratories in Ukraine?

00:02:28.000 There seems to be a lot of chatter about it.

00:02:29.000 Victoria Newland talked about it in her discussion with Marco Rubio.

00:02:33.000 Are these Soviet relics?

00:02:35.000 Are they active?

00:02:36.000 Was the United States involved in it?

00:02:37.000 Was there potential gain of function research?

00:02:39.000 The floor is yours.

00:02:40.000 Well, Charlie, when it comes down to these bioweapons, you know, normally, if we hadn't lived through the events of the last few years, I would be so willing to just say, of course, these are simply, you know, diagnostic testing centers.

00:02:53.000 There's nothing going on here.

00:02:54.000 Don't worry about it.

00:02:55.000 But what we've learned about the NIH's funding and what they were doing through EcoHealth Alliance in Wuhan, right?

00:03:02.000 That has given me to the point where I do not trust these people anymore.

00:03:06.000 I don't trust them when it comes to their statements.

00:03:08.000 I don't trust them when it comes to them saying that they're not conducting shady research in foreign laboratories like we saw them do in Wuhan.

00:03:15.000 So the question then becomes, why was it?

00:03:17.000 It simply rests at this, right?

00:03:19.000 I thought this entire thing was some ridiculous Russian or Chinese disinfo campaign, try to take the heat off of Wuhan, try to, you know, throw some of the Iraq war rhetoric back in our faces.

00:03:28.000 And then all of a sudden, Victoria Newland comes out and says, well, we have to be very careful about letting any of these research materials get into the hands of the Russians. 0.78

00:03:38.000 And the minute she said that, the entire narrative shifted.

00:03:41.000 Because wait a minute, if what's in there is active, this isn't just stuff that's on ice or stuff that's buried deep underground, that there is something in there that could potentially be used.

00:03:49.000 And then Marco Rubio again responds saying, well, if something was used, you know, it would be by the Russians.

00:03:54.000 Of course, of course, it'd be used by the Russians. 0.58

00:03:55.000 So, you know, let me get this straight.

00:03:57.000 What exactly is the magical thinking of the mainstream media now?

00:04:01.000 And I've seen all these like debunk pieces that have come out.

00:04:03.000 It's this magical thinking that says there's no bioweapons, but even if there are, it's definitely Russians. 1.00

00:04:09.000 How does this work?

00:04:10.000 Yeah.

00:04:11.000 So the question is, if they were Russians, were they still active laboratories?

00:04:16.000 And I mean, how will we ever find out about this?

00:04:19.000 Because it seems awfully suspicious.

00:04:21.000 And we do know that there was tons of money going abroad through Peter Dasik and the EcoHealth Alliance, to the Wuhan Institute of Virology.

00:04:30.000 And so Russia is saying these are the United States.

00:04:32.000 We don't trust Russia at face value, obviously.

00:04:35.000 But what is the way we can actually find out the truth here?

00:04:37.000 Look, the way to actually find out the truth, and it's amazing to me that people attacked Tulsi Gabbard for saying this.

00:04:44.000 She said, why don't you declare a ceasefire and actually get investigators in, international investigators in from these bioweapons agencies around the world.

00:04:55.000 They work with the UN, send them in, let them secure what is ever in these places, right?

00:05:00.000 You'd think that both sides would have a vested interest since they both have soldiers in the field.

00:05:04.000 One side, obviously, Ukraine has civilians in the field.

00:05:06.000 They both have vested interests in not allowing bioweapons to be released into the public space, released into the field.

00:05:14.000 And so why not call for a ceasefire the way they tried to establish these humanitarian corridors, set up essential ceasefire zones around these laboratories or research facilities or whatever word that we're supposed to use to call them, right?

00:05:28.000 And just bring people in, understand what's going on in there, and maybe they can be released, maybe they can be incinerated, maybe they can be dealt with appropriately by the appropriate authorities.

00:05:38.000 But I don't hear anybody saying that.

00:05:39.000 I hear everyone telling us to just shut up about this or Mitt Romney screaming that Tulsi Gabbard is somehow treasonous for even suggesting that we do something that would be a constructive step forward, which, oh, by the way, right, is erring on the side of caution the same way that we did with the chemical weapons in Syria.

00:05:58.000 So, Jack, let me ask you, just, you know, we haven't really done a lot of the play-by-play of what's happening in Ukraine on this program because it's changing so quickly and there's so much misinformation and disinformation.

00:06:08.000 What does it look like right now?

00:06:10.000 It looks like the eastern part of Ukraine has been captured by Russian forces.

00:06:14.000 We've been hearing about the fall of Kyiv now for a couple weeks.

00:06:18.000 What is Putin's endgame here?

00:06:20.000 There is a theory that there might be a peace deal brokered, maybe an east and west Ukraine basically created or Russia basically absorbs the eastern part of Ukraine.

00:06:29.000 What do you think is a realistic off-ramp here?

00:06:32.000 Or are we going to see potentially a multi-month or multi-year conflict in Ukraine?

00:06:36.000 Well, look, you know, there's been a lot of talk about this.

00:06:39.000 You know, as you stated, that on the ground, it is a constantly changing situation.

00:06:43.000 Look, strategically speaking, in terms of eastern Ukraine, Russia does now, and Russian forces have occupied pretty much all of the strategic locations in eastern Ukraine, the city of Kherson, the areas around Donetsk and Lugansk, obviously up north from Crimea.

00:06:59.000 And then there is that port city of Mariupol where you have this Azov battalion and Ukrainian forces that are maintaining the city, but it has been completely encircled by Russian forces.

00:07:10.000 And some news that we're going to be breaking later today is that it looks like the Russian forces are actually trying to bisect the city, cut it in half by pushing through to create a corridor, which they claim they want to get civilians out, but I'm sure they're also going to be sending their own military forces in.

00:07:23.000 Now, when it comes to Kiev, again, they're building around their encirclement of the city.

00:07:27.000 If you go read World War II history, you read your Russian, read your Russian military battles, Russia's greatest and most glorious moment in combat that they refer to is the Battle of Berlin under Marshal Zhukov.

00:07:40.000 And what did they do with that?

00:07:41.000 It was 2.5 million men surrounded the city of Berlin, 6,000 tanks.

00:07:46.000 The tanks were sent in first as battering rams to soften up the defenses, to smash their way through, and then the troops poured in.

00:07:53.000 That's the exact same type of strategy that you're seeing now being used or attempted to be set up around Kiev.

00:07:59.000 Now, obviously, on a much smaller scale.

00:08:01.000 And also, they're trying to do this in a way they don't want to completely destroy the city because, again, they keep claiming that they're liberating the city, right?

00:08:08.000 It's the sort of like back and forth.

00:08:09.000 So, I think what you're really seeing, though, is they've got the on-the-ground stuff in the East when it comes to Kiev.

00:08:15.000 That's not necessarily a military objective for them, but what it is is a political objective.

00:08:20.000 They want to see a point where they want to bring the regime to the point where not maybe not so much that it'll completely collapse, but come to the point where they do have to come to a negotiation deal and a negotiation deal with Zelensky and with the powers that be in Ukraine.

00:08:34.000 And by doing so, they want to be the ones with the most possible leverage.

00:08:38.000 And the way they do that is by having as much hold on the ground as they can when they get to that point.

00:08:43.000 So, let me ask you really quick: there's reports that show that Russia is asking China for support.

00:08:49.000 Is that right?

00:08:51.000 So, the United States came out late last night and said, you know, gave this big briefing and said that it looks like Russia is asking for military support from China.

00:08:59.000 China came out and denied it.

00:09:00.000 They said, we have no idea what you're talking about.

00:09:02.000 Russia is out there denying it.

00:09:04.000 You know, I'm not really sure entirely what the specifics of that are.

00:09:07.000 But when it comes down to it, you know, it's very obvious that China is underwriting this entire invasion in the sense that they are backstopping Russia when it comes to the financial side of things. 0.68

00:09:17.000 Because if Russia is losing these oil sales, whether they, you know, cut off to the United States, which seems to be happening, the cutoff to, by the way, oil sales to Europe have continued, right?

00:09:27.000 Russian gas is flowing to Europe right now today as much as it ever did, 100% through those pipelines.

00:09:33.000 But anything that does get cut off in terms of sanctions, it's going to be picked up by China. 0.97

00:09:38.000 So whether or not China is providing direct military assistance remains to be seen, but we certainly know that they are providing that financial underwriting of this entire thing.

00:09:46.000 So, Jack, what's happening on the right right now?

00:09:49.000 I'm seeing a fracturing of people that are getting very nasty towards anyone that dares questions military involvement.

00:09:54.000 Well, I think you're really seeing that split between the neoconservatives and the populists, right?

00:09:58.000 And you're seeing some people say, you know, the United States needs to do more, like Mitt Romney saying that we need to provide fighter jets.

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00:10:05.000 And also that would start World War III.

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00:11:30.000 So I want to ask you, I'm going to play a tape here, Jack, and I want your thoughts on it.

00:11:34.000 The great one, Mark Levin, who I have a lot of respect for, and he's a very good friend, had a rant last night on life, liberty, and Levin.

00:11:41.000 And I don't think we see this particular issue the same way, but disagreement is not only healthy.

00:11:46.000 It's fun.

00:11:46.000 It's part of what makes us human, not automatons and robots.

00:11:50.000 Levin says there is a Putin wing of the Republican Party, and he says that he has debunked the bioweapons completely of being in Ukraine.

00:11:59.000 Let's play Cut 14, and I would like your response to it, Jack.

00:12:02.000 Of course, the Putin wing of the Republican Party and the Putin wing of the media and the Putin wing of the Democrat Party, they're all over it.

00:12:09.000 Now, those are old Soviet locations that the United States has located and has been trying to deal with.

00:12:15.000 We're not developing biochemical weapons in the Ukraine.

00:12:19.000 What is it about these so-called American firsters in the end who are really American lasters if you think about it?

00:12:25.000 Jack, what are your thoughts?

00:12:27.000 Yeah, I mean, it's really interesting that he kind of puts this in, and you do see this with people who spent a lot of time on air during the Cold War, that they're still kind of looking at through that perspective.

00:12:41.000 But that being said, you know, it isn't a question of who developed the weapons first, right?

00:12:46.000 You know, we can, the time for that discussion can come later.

00:12:49.000 I think the more active discussion, and I think everyone agrees that this started with Soviet bioweapons. 0.56

00:12:55.000 I don't think anybody's saying that it didn't.

00:12:56.000 Even the Russians aren't saying that, right?

00:12:58.000 We're saying is that we are providing funding, but the point is, it's not the United States necessarily that's doing it, but the United States could play a very important role here in actually saying, hey, let's go do something about this.

00:13:11.000 Maybe we could be the mediators on the ground if Russia, you know, probably wouldn't let us do this, but you'd have the ability to say, let's do this ceasefire.

00:13:18.000 Let's go on the ground.

00:13:19.000 You can have U.S. officials be part of this, not Peter Dashak, by the way, but actually send in serious scientists to be part of it and then go in and figure out what actually is in these biolabs and then put it under lock and key or set it on fire so that it can never be released.

00:13:34.000 This is in the middle of an active war zone and you're talking and people are saying there are bioweapons on the ground.

00:13:38.000 I don't care who put them there.

00:13:40.000 I care that they're there now.

00:13:41.000 And I don't understand why Mark has so much of a problem with simply just stating that fact.

00:13:47.000 Yeah, look, this is from theblaze.com, which hosts one of Mark's shows.

00:13:52.000 It says this, quote, there are indeed biological research facilities in Ukraine that have been funded by the United States government.

00:13:58.000 We don't have any way to know whether these facilities were conducting research that was intended to produce weapons or not, but we do know that if the pathogens housed in these facilities escaped, they'd be as deadly as an intentionally produced bioweapon.

00:14:09.000 So that is the United States we know is funding that.

00:14:12.000 So Jack, here's where I'm a little bit concerned is that, you know, the right is fracturing into different camps.

00:14:19.000 You've said they've always been there.

00:14:21.000 I think that's probably right.

00:14:22.000 I think that's smart.

00:14:23.000 Basically, it's just kind of revealing this.

00:14:25.000 But it seems as if even the most hawkish interventionists, the people that really want us to get involved, that really want us to saber rattle, if you will, they stop short of wanting to put troops on the ground, which, of course, I don't support and you don't support.

00:14:38.000 But can you effectively saber rattle?

00:14:40.000 Can you effectively even get involved in something if you're not willing to see it all the way through?

00:14:44.000 Well, remember this, what they're trying to do here, and you've heard people say, Hillary Clinton came out and said this a couple of weeks ago on MSNBC, and I see these neoconservatives being complete lockstep with her.

00:14:56.000 They want to turn Ukraine into Afghanistan. 0.98

00:14:58.000 They want to go to the Charlie Wilson's War playbook and turn this into a situation where they make it a quagmire for the Russians. 0.95

00:15:06.000 They say, look, we find a force, and maybe it's this Azov battalion.

00:15:09.000 Yeah, they've got some, you know, naughty symbols on their uniforms, but we can work with them.

00:15:16.000 We can work with them and we'll give them Stinger missiles and man pads and arm-held missile launchers.

00:15:23.000 What could possibly go wrong?

00:15:24.000 And Hillary Clinton actually says it in this clip.

00:15:26.000 She said, look, it worked so well for us in Afghanistan when we armed the Mujahideen and nothing came wrong of that, right? 0.98

00:15:33.000 It was, yeah, everything was great in the Middle East for a long time.

00:15:36.000 It's hard to believe.

00:15:37.000 That's really smart, Jack, to turn Ukraine into Afghanistan, which of course would become a, let's say, a client of every major defense contractor and also a great distraction, a smokescreen, if you will, to try to make us not focus on domestic issues. 0.94

00:15:53.000 I mean, Jack, look at all the attention that we focused on Ukraine in the last couple of weeks.

00:15:57.000 Every minute, every breath we spend on that is a second we can't talk about our own domestic problems, our open border, our drug overdosing, inflation, gas prices, families falling apart.

00:16:08.000 Why are our priorities so backwards and why is war so alluring to the public?

00:16:13.000 Look, you know, if it leads, it leads, right?

00:16:16.000 They're not telling you about the wars that are going on in Yemen.

00:16:16.000 And they are telling you this.

00:16:19.000 They're not talking about the narco-state that's on our southern border right now with cartels killing.

00:16:25.000 You have literal drug cartels that own massive swaths of land in Mexico right across our border in our own hemisphere, right?

00:16:32.000 If we're going to be doing any of this nation-building stuff, we're going to be doing any of this foreign intervention. 0.95

00:16:37.000 How about we do ones that actually affect us directly right here at home?

00:16:41.000 How about that?

00:16:42.000 Jack, thank you so much for joining us.

00:16:44.000 Thank you for your smart commentary.

00:16:45.000 It's a pleasure as always.

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00:18:02.000 We have my friend Jack Hibbs.

00:18:03.000 We're going to get to him in just a second.

00:18:05.000 We're going to talk about our amazing conversation we had just, I think it was like a week and a half ago.

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00:18:40.000 We had a dialogue about the great reset that has gone totally viral and has just skyrocketed on both YouTube and Facebook and Rumble and every platform.

00:18:48.000 And so we have Jack Hibbs right now to help us kind of unpack that and kind of tell our audience a little about the success of that conversation and also dive into some current events here.

00:18:56.000 Jack Hibbs, senior pastor at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills.

00:19:00.000 Jack, how you doing?

00:19:01.000 I'm doing good, Charlie.

00:19:02.000 Thanks.

00:19:02.000 So Jack, that was quite the conversation.

00:19:04.000 I've received so much unbelievable feedback as we went through the great reset point by point and piece by piece.

00:19:10.000 Thank you for giving us that opportunity, Jack.

00:19:13.000 Yeah, listen, Charlie, historically, you know, whenever you've come out, those special Wednesday nights have been just incredible.

00:19:19.000 And you're exactly correct.

00:19:22.000 I as well.

00:19:23.000 Lisa and I were just down in Laguna Beach a couple of days ago and people recognizing us from that dialogue that you and I had.

00:19:30.000 But the reason why, of course, is because it was so relevant.

00:19:34.000 It is so timely.

00:19:35.000 And look, you and I are believers in God's prophetic word.

00:19:39.000 These events that are taking place in the world right now, people ought not to waste their attention on the fact that they need to focus on the reality that God's word and God's plan has anticipated these things.

00:19:51.000 You know, the remarkable thing, Charlie, is you and I are watching some major global players being set up that are actually referenced in the Bible.

00:20:01.000 Walk us through that, Jack, please.

00:20:04.000 Yeah, well, first of all, we, as evangelical believers that studied the scripture, the number one thing that we're looking at outside of the return of Jesus for us is the book of Ezekiel.

00:20:14.000 Charlie, the book of Ezekiel, chapter 38, describes a leader that goes by the title of Gog G-O-G.

00:20:22.000 And it's interesting in the Hebrew that he is both a political and military leader.

00:20:27.000 Now, I'm not saying that Putin is that person.

00:20:30.000 There may be somebody in there, possibly is somebody behind him.

00:20:33.000 My point is this, the reason why that's even on the table to discuss is because Gog is the prince of Rosh, Meshach, and Tubal.

00:20:42.000 And those ancient tribal names out of Genesis chapter 10 show us exactly where that is.

00:20:47.000 And that is the region that's north of Israel, north of the Caucasus Mountains, that goes all the way up to the north, as far north as you can go.

00:20:59.000 A land that is not Soviet Union anymore, by the way.

00:21:02.000 It goes back to the ancient biblical name, Rosh, Meshach, and Tubal.

00:21:08.000 This is the land of Russia. 0.98

00:21:10.000 And what's awesome is that we don't have to think that that's our opinion or something.

00:21:14.000 It's in the Bible.

00:21:16.000 Another thing, Charlie, real quick, is that we're keeping our eye on Damascus.

00:21:19.000 The Bible says in Isaiah chapter 17 that Damascus will experience a fire within its walls.

00:21:29.000 And it says that once this fire takes place in Damascus, it will be once and for all obliterated as a city, and it will never, again, ever be inhabited. 0.95

00:21:42.000 So you look at the Syrian conflict, what's happening in the north, which Russia has its fingers in there. 0.70

00:21:47.000 You look at what's going on in Ukraine.

00:21:50.000 You look at Russia's recent threats against Israel.

00:21:54.000 We know this from scripture, that at some point in time, the dominoes will be set up in such a way that Russia will become a threat. 0.86

00:22:02.000 The book of Ezekiel says everyone will question its actions against Israel, but the world will do nothing about it. 0.72

00:22:11.000 In fact, the Bible says in Ezekiel 38 that God will arise at that time, and he will destroy the invading Russian forces and the coalition of five other nations, and that the world will begin to know that I am God, is what the scripture says.

00:22:26.000 So is this that moment?

00:22:28.000 I don't know.

00:22:29.000 Do we have the players in place?

00:22:31.000 We do.

00:22:32.000 But, you know, we're not, listen, we're not hyper about this.

00:22:35.000 We're not going to be fanatics about it.

00:22:37.000 We're going to have our Bibles open.

00:22:39.000 We are going to be looking at the news and deciphering everything we hear and see through a biblical world lens.

00:22:45.000 It's amazing.

00:22:46.000 So, Jack, I want to ask you about Ukraine and how we view that prism through the great reset, the tensions that are involved with that.

00:22:53.000 Because I think one of the reasons why our conversation, Jack, went so viral and was so meaningful to people is that things started to make sense.

00:23:00.000 They started to say, oh, so that's why they're doing that.

00:23:02.000 That's why they're doing that.

00:23:04.000 That's why they're, because the otherwise confusing, I think, became clear.

00:23:07.000 So help us, Jack, from your perspective, from a Western standpoint, help us understand what is happening in Ukraine right now while also understanding the foundation of what these elites who do not believe in God, who are highly secular, that what's really happening and playing out in Ukraine.

00:23:26.000 Charlie, awesome.

00:23:27.000 And of course, if people want to get this more in detail, they just need to listen to our talk together.

00:23:32.000 But absolutely.

00:23:34.000 There are those that you just mentioned, these oligarch types, they actually see themselves as God.

00:23:40.000 Let's remember that George Soros was the man who said, I don't believe in God, but if there was a God, I am that God.

00:23:47.000 That's insanity, and that is crazy.

00:23:50.000 But we may laugh at it, but they believe it.

00:23:54.000 And so it's very much a doctrine of what we've seen throughout human history.

00:23:59.000 If you can create a destabilization, create a problem, create an issue whereby you believe that you have the answer, but you're going to bring forth that answer with certain things that you are going to want to have in your favor.

00:24:13.000 And so what people need to realize is that Ukraine, and maybe on the grand scale, Eric had mentioned the spiritual aspect of things down at NRB.

00:24:25.000 That is so true because behind all of the global players and behind a hand group, a handful of manipulators, they would see themselves, is the spiritual powers behind these things.

00:24:39.000 But this destabilization, I wonder, Charlie, and this is just a theory.

00:24:44.000 I'm just throwing it out there.

00:24:45.000 You've probably heard this a thousand times.

00:24:48.000 But I'm wondering if instead of Russia just rolling into Ukraine, why have they somewhat paused?

00:24:57.000 Why have they somewhat delayed?

00:24:59.000 Is this to provoke the West to drum up public cry, outcry to get us to step in, to get us as a nation, Charlie?

00:25:08.000 I'm sorry to say this, but in my opinion, America is weakened.

00:25:12.000 We are frail.

00:25:14.000 It's not just the fact that we're war-tired.

00:25:18.000 That doesn't matter, in my opinion.

00:25:20.000 We have the military strength to do whatever we want.

00:25:22.000 We don't have the will to do what ought to be done.

00:25:25.000 So one of the things that concerns me, though, is we're weak.

00:25:31.000 And are they trying to get us just even on the humanitarian stuff?

00:25:34.000 Because Charlie, you've got connections.

00:25:36.000 I've got connections on the ground, body cams of privateers that are warring there.

00:25:43.000 And I've seen images and they don't make sense.

00:25:47.000 There's certain things that are being shown on TV, Charlie, that we know for a fact that are old buildings that have had the doors removed off the hinges, the frames have been removed from the window panes.

00:25:58.000 And these things, many of these things have been staged.

00:26:00.000 Does that mean it's all fake?

00:26:01.000 No, it just means something's going on.

00:26:04.000 And that's why you see even in the conservative Republican of the conservative world, there's an argument and the debate back and forth about policy, about doctrine, what we ought to do about it.

00:26:14.000 People are being divided.

00:26:16.000 People are being confused.

00:26:17.000 Look, I'm a pastor.

00:26:19.000 So I believe that if you stick your nose in the Bible and know that God is very, very intimately involved in all these end-time events, I have peace.

00:26:27.000 But people need to realize that.

00:26:29.000 I know you realize that.

00:26:30.000 We need to look to God like never before.

00:26:33.000 But at the same time, at the same time, we need to fight for what's right.

00:26:37.000 In a few moments, I'm going to speak before the largest financial supporting group for the Republican Party of Women.

00:26:44.000 It is a massive group who's the number one supporter for the Republican Party in the nation and California.

00:26:52.000 And yet I'm torn because I'm a conservative, but the Republican Party in my state has been one of the biggest problems.

00:27:00.000 And so we need to be wise and we need to be engaged and we need to know the truth because we don't have to search for it.

00:27:07.000 It's there.

00:27:08.000 Just open your eyes.

00:27:10.000 We need to be careful that we're not swept away with some strange, bizarre twist.

00:27:15.000 And I believe that's where the Holy Spirit comes in for our lives.

00:27:17.000 Amen.

00:27:17.000 Well, Jack, I think that's really smart because there might be a strategy to try to provoke us into conflict to try to have us, to lure us in.

00:27:24.000 You're right.

00:27:24.000 We do have the military might.

00:27:26.000 But I will say, Jack, I don't have a lot of confidence in that military might after Afghanistan, right?

00:27:30.000 I mean, after the widespread inability to execute on very, very basic things, it's very, very murky and it's very unclear, really, what the aim and the ambition here is.

00:27:44.000 Because if Russia, I would imagine Russia has the military capacity to take all this over a lot quicker. 0.80

00:27:51.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:27:51.000 Maybe there's another side of the story here, but we have to be wise here, Jack, because getting into a kinetic conflict with Russia, with the West completely involved, that would be something that I don't think a lot of Americans are necessarily prepared for.

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00:29:22.000 I want to play a tape here from our conversation at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills.

00:29:25.000 Every single seat was filled, but it was part of this kind of dialogue where it says, should we give up just because the great reset is here?

00:29:31.000 We're still loading that clip.

00:29:32.000 Jack, I'll let you answer it, then I'll play the tape so that people can hear it for themselves.

00:29:36.000 Jack, should people just give up?

00:29:37.000 It seems overwhelming.

00:29:39.000 No way, Charlie, no way.

00:29:41.000 In fact, listen, the Christian approach to all of these things must be continuous engagement until either A, we die or Jesus returns.

00:29:53.000 And we've got to make sure that we are being that salt and light, that we are being that influence of good against evil.

00:30:02.000 And we can't just pull the sheets over our head and hide out.

00:30:05.000 Look, the beautiful thing about America is that you can't find America's creation in the Bible.

00:30:11.000 The greatest power on earth the world has ever seen, the greatest economy, the greatest liberty, and at one time, the greatest propagator of biblical truth is not even mentioned in the Bible.

00:30:21.000 So what does that mean?

00:30:22.000 It means that the future for us could still be yet written.

00:30:27.000 America is so unique from its founding, and I pray that we could experience a revival, spiritually speaking, a revival.

00:30:35.000 It's possible that our nation wakes up and gets back to its constitutional foundation and demand that our leaders, this is what I believe every Christian ought to do.

00:30:46.000 And I think, Charlie, we have shied away from it, and that sins on us. 0.76

00:30:50.000 And that is Christians have somehow swallowed the lie about the separation of church and state trash.

00:30:56.000 It's nowhere in any U.S. founding document or federal document.

00:31:01.000 It's not even the law.

00:31:02.000 And so Christians have just pulled away. 0.98

00:31:04.000 Pastors have pulled away.

00:31:07.000 They've somehow acquiesced to the pressure.

00:31:09.000 Well, you can't encourage people to register to vote at your church.

00:31:13.000 Oh, yes, you can.

00:31:14.000 And you can't get behind guys that are running for office that hold somewhat or very much so a biblical worldview.

00:31:23.000 Oh, yes, you can.

00:31:24.000 The time is critical to fight for our kids, to fight for our grandkids.

00:31:28.000 Look, I hope Jesus comes back today.

00:31:30.000 But I'm fighting for this nation and for my kids' freedom and for my and Charlie's religious freedom.

00:31:37.000 I'm fighting as though he's not coming back for a thousand years, but I'm looking up today.

00:31:42.000 It's beautiful.

00:31:43.000 Let's play a tape here, Jack, of something you said during our dialogue, which is very similar to this.

00:31:48.000 And the audience got a kick out of one of the things you said as well.

00:31:51.000 Let's play that tape.

00:31:52.000 I absolutely believe that there's hope.

00:31:55.000 Listen, God governs time.

00:31:56.000 It's not for you and I to figure, oh my goodness, the great reset's come and I'm going to go sit in the desert and wait.

00:32:03.000 Don't do that.

00:32:04.000 Some people, should I go to college?

00:32:07.000 Of course not.

00:32:07.000 But that's a separate question.

00:32:10.000 But live your life.

00:32:12.000 Don't do that.

00:32:13.000 Why would I treat you so well, Jack?

00:32:15.000 Why would you do that?

00:32:18.000 But do you want to get married?

00:32:19.000 Get married.

00:32:20.000 That's right.

00:32:20.000 Exactly right.

00:32:21.000 You want to have babies? 1.00

00:32:22.000 Have a bunch.

00:32:23.000 Jack, elaborate on that.

00:32:24.000 Yeah, listen, we have got to live our lives.

00:32:27.000 And the young people today, Charlie, and I know there's a lot of them listening to your program right now, they need to get up out of bed.

00:32:33.000 They need to wash their face, go get a job. 0.97

00:32:35.000 They need to live their life because every day, here's why we're living.

00:32:38.000 Every day, no matter what your age is, if you can draw a breath and if you believe in the Lord, he's got a plan for your life every day.

00:32:45.000 I don't care if we are in Russia or if we're on the California Riviera.

00:32:50.000 You live every day for the glory of God.

00:32:53.000 And you've got purpose.

00:32:54.000 You'll have meaning and you'll see God move.

00:32:56.000 A lot of people say, well, I don't see God doing miracles.

00:32:59.000 Well, why would you when you're standing around not doing anything, present yourself usable?

00:33:04.000 Charlie, your day, people don't even know how busy your life is, but you present yourself usable.

00:33:10.000 God opens the doors.

00:33:11.000 Same is true in my life.

00:33:12.000 There's great reasons to live.

00:33:14.000 This is an awesome moment.

00:33:15.000 The God of all eternity has not abandoned us.

00:33:18.000 Yes, there's wars and rumors of wars, but Jesus said, cheer up.

00:33:22.000 There's going to be days like this, but I have overcome the world.

00:33:26.000 And so, no, we don't hide.

00:33:28.000 We don't give up.

00:33:30.000 We fight.

00:33:31.000 And the great thing is, Charlie, with whatever we stand for that's biblically true, and we lose the battle like a recall here in California, you know, it's great.

00:33:42.000 I didn't cry about it because I did the right thing.

00:33:45.000 I leave the results to God.

00:33:46.000 I just make sure that I'm doing the right thing that he wants me to do.

00:33:50.000 And it's a blast.

00:33:51.000 I'm 64 years old, and I wish I was younger to pour more energy into the joy of being with God every day and seeing what he wants to do.

00:34:00.000 Amen.

00:34:00.000 Jack, you're special, and I'm honored to call you a friend and a fellow patriot and believer in the fight for liberty.

00:34:06.000 It's jackhibbs.com.

00:34:07.000 That is two B's, jackhibbs.com.

00:34:10.000 He's one of the most amazing pastors, I think, in this generation and certainly in our country's history.

00:34:16.000 Jack, thank you so much.

00:34:17.000 God bless you, man.

00:34:20.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:34:22.000 Email me.

00:34:22.000 Your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:34:24.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:34:26.000 God bless.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - March 15, 2022

Russian Aggression and the Soros Agenda with Jack Posobiec & Jack Hibbs

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