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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Molly Hemingway joins the show.

00:00:02.000 Did Zelensky go into this meeting with intentional sabotage intention?

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00:01:27.000 Molly Hemingway from The Federalist.

00:01:30.000 Molly, thank you for joining the program.

00:01:31.000 Molly, what do you make of this idea that Zelensky might have somebody in his ear or that it was an intentional sabotage?

00:01:39.000 Molly Hemingway.

00:01:40.000 Well, it was so weird to watch him go into this meeting that was ostensibly to get much further down the road of a peace agreement and see him just being unbelievably hostile.

00:01:51.000 And he had met with all these different members of Congress.

00:01:54.000 Prior to the meeting, and as everything blew up, they started talking about how either, A, they had counseled him before he went into the meeting, or in some cases, like Lindsey Graham said, I counseled him not to behave the way that he behaved.

00:02:08.000 So you realize that there was a lot of strategy going into why he was operating the way he was and the kind of information he was getting.

00:02:15.000 You know, you even saw the New York Post the day before the meeting was saying, Zelensky, you should take your case directly to the American people because Trump's position isn't popular.

00:02:26.000 Now, I think they were wrong, but the point is, Zelensky was getting a lot of advice to behave, at least somewhat, in the manner that he ended up behaving.

00:02:35.000 Yeah, but I'm trying to understand, though, what does Zelensky want by antagonizing President Trump?

00:02:42.000 What is the endgame here?

00:02:44.000 Now, it's a little tricky because you wouldn't say that a man who's...

00:02:48.000 Country has been destroyed by war, once war.

00:02:52.000 But there are aspects to ending this war that would maybe not go well for Zelensky.

00:02:58.000 He has not had democratic elections for some period of time.

00:03:02.000 It was part of the martial law that has also seen the shuttering of opposition newspapers, opposition political parties, religious groups that are not aligned with his political preference.

00:03:13.000 And there's no election to hold him democratically accountable.

00:03:16.000 I think he legitimately is concerned that...

00:03:19.000 If the elections were held, that he might not win again, and that this might raise questions about what his life is going to be like once the peace is established.

00:03:30.000 And so he's seeking, and his allies in America and throughout the world are seeking U.S. security guarantees.

00:03:39.000 And it's a nice...

00:03:41.000 But what does it mean?

00:03:42.000 Well, ultimately, a security guarantee means nothing unless it means U.S. troops willing to go on the ground to defend Ukraine in this proxy war.

00:03:52.000 Well, that's not what the American people want.

00:03:54.000 It is absolutely what the media complex wants, what the neocons in our country want, and what Europe wants.

00:04:00.000 They want us to put our troops and our money to back this security guarantee.

00:04:06.000 And so he thought that he had a shot to get that, and that's what blowing up the meeting was all about.

00:04:10.000 Okay, let's play cut one here.

00:04:13.000 This is Lindsey Graham.

00:04:14.000 You mentioned this cut.

00:04:15.000 Play cut one.

00:04:16.000 I told him this morning, I told him, don't take the bait.

00:04:20.000 Don't let the media or anybody else get you into an argument with President Trump.

00:04:25.000 What he's doing today is resetting the relationship.

00:04:28.000 You should be grateful.

00:04:30.000 Now, whether or not we can put this back together, I don't know.

00:04:33.000 But Zelensky's going to be on your network tonight.

00:04:36.000 If I were him, I would profusely apologize to the way he treated our president and the vice president and the Oval Office and show a little bit of gratitude for what the American people have done.

00:04:47.000 Now, I'm trying to understand all this.

00:04:50.000 So, first of all, Zelensky did not apologize.

00:04:52.000 I mean, Lindsey Graham is chief neocon. 0.96

00:04:55.000 I mean, he is one of the chieftains.

00:04:56.000 He's one of the grand poobahs of the warmongering machine. 1.00

00:05:01.000 He, alongside of two or three others, design all these failed conflicts.

00:05:05.000 Stay up late at night, thinking of what other countries to invade.

00:05:09.000 Why is it that Lindsey Graham was so quick to cast Zelensky aside? 0.99

00:05:15.000 Do you think that Lindsey felt almost personally violated because Zelensky didn't receive the coaching?

00:05:22.000 Well, first of all, that's the quote that I think is so interesting, where he says, don't take the bait where these other people are telling you to be hostile, right?

00:05:32.000 I mean, it's interesting he's just saying what...

00:05:35.000 What everyone can see that he's getting coaching to be this way.

00:05:38.000 I think Lindsey Graham cares more about continuing the war in Ukraine than he cares about Zelensky.

00:05:43.000 So when he saw Zelensky completely implode in this Oval Office meeting, he realized that the best chance for the war to continue is to get rid of Zelensky.

00:05:52.000 That way, if someone else comes in, you get a fresh start and you can...

00:05:56.000 Continue negotiations as opposed to what happened that we all saw if you watched the full 50 minutes of this meeting of Zelensky just seeming almost crazed in his hostility toward Trump and Vance.

00:06:12.000 So I want to now get into your, let's say, back and forth with Susan Rice.

00:06:18.000 What happened here?

00:06:20.000 Explain it to our audience and what did you learn?

00:06:22.000 Well, it was just interesting.

00:06:23.000 Immediately after everything blows up.

00:06:25.000 Susan Rice goes on CNN to talk about the situation, and she says a lot of stuff that's really interesting.

00:06:32.000 A, she opposes the peace deal that would be good for the United States.

00:06:37.000 That alone is kind of shocking to see a former national security advisor.

00:06:46.000 She also reveals all this knowledge of what was in the mineral agreement.

00:06:51.000 You know, she kind of is suggesting she has deep insider knowledge about what was the agreement that Trump wanted Zelensky to sign about the minerals in Ukraine that could help repay us for all the money that taxpayers have spent there.

00:07:03.000 She had the same talking point as Zelensky about concrete security.

00:07:08.000 Agreements, meaning having U.S. troops on the ground, if they can make that happen.

00:07:13.000 And then she just mischaracterized Trump's behavior.

00:07:17.000 So immediate with this that you could say, okay, well, maybe this is just Democrat talking points, and it really could be.

00:07:24.000 But given that it's Susan Rice, and given how she runs operations, information operations, which she did with the Benghazi disaster, where she immediately went out and lied and said that the attack on 9-11 was not part of Islamist attacks on the U.S., it was just an organic protest about a YouTube video that an American had made.

00:07:45.000 And then she proceeded to try to criminalize the First Amendment and all that. 1.00

00:07:48.000 She also did the Russia collusion hook.

00:07:51.000 She was in that very tiny meeting at the end of the Obama administration where they kind of hatched what to do with the Russia collusion hook.

00:07:59.000 So that's kind of like what she does.

00:08:00.000 She was UN ambassador.

00:08:02.000 She was national security advisor.

00:08:03.000 So seeing that she was out there immediately with this information operation, it looked like she might be knowledgeable of the effort to get Zelensky to do what he did.

00:08:14.000 And so I just think that was interesting.

00:08:17.000 We haven't heard from Susan Rice in quite some time, so it's rather odd that it's coming out now.

00:08:24.000 What would you say is a probable outcome here, Molly?

00:08:27.000 And in closing, what do you make of the Europeans now talking a big game that they're going to defend Ukraine?

00:08:33.000 Well, it is a fraught situation.

00:08:35.000 And it's, by the way, Ukraine has been a fraught situation since the implosion of the Soviet Union back during the George H.W. Bush administration.

00:08:42.000 It's something we have to be very careful of.

00:08:45.000 So I don't know how things are going to end.

00:08:47.000 I do think Zelensky should stop taking advice from the people who are telling him to be hostile toward American voters and Trump.

00:08:54.000 But a good outcome would be if the European countries really did start spending more on their own defense and did more to back their claims.

00:09:06.000 I think Trump still wants that.

00:09:12.000 I hope he doesn't want it at the expense of American interest, but hopefully we'll get it there.

00:09:17.000 I don't know if Zelensky will survive being president of his country for much longer.

00:09:24.000 Molly Hemingway from The Federalist.

00:09:26.000 Excellent work as always.

00:09:27.000 Thanks so much.

00:09:28.000 Thank you.

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00:10:32.000 I want to play more pieces of tape here.

00:10:35.000 I think it's very important to kind of get a full picture of the fallout regarding the Ukraine meeting.

00:10:42.000 Let's play cut 10. So I share the disillusionment.

00:10:47.000 That Ambassador McFaul was talking about.

00:10:49.000 This was a disgraceful performance by the President of the United States, a disgraceful performance by the Vice President.

00:10:56.000 They have humiliated the United States on the world stage.

00:10:59.000 It reinforces all the suspicions of our European partners that America can no longer be trusted as an ally.

00:11:07.000 And I think, at the end of the day, perhaps this puts to rest Some of the things we've been hearing, that there are some members in the GOP, for example, senators and others who are trying to change President Trump's mind, I think that's gone at this point.

00:11:24.000 Look, none of this should be a shock to you guys.

00:11:26.000 You guys know the stated position of President Trump, which is that no longer will our nation be taken advantage of.

00:11:33.000 But understand, President Trump is doing very, very high-stakes diplomacy here.

00:11:38.000 Incredibly high-stakes.

00:11:39.000 And Zelensky does not want to engage with that.

00:11:42.000 You have to ask the question, would Zelensky rather be conquered by Putin and die fighting than do a deal?

00:11:51.000 He doesn't have a country.

00:11:53.000 Do you know what the average age of a soldier in Ukraine is?

00:11:57.000 The average age.

00:12:00.000 43 years old.

00:12:01.000 The average age of a soldier in Ukraine is 43. They are taking aging fathers.

00:12:09.000 Out from communities and farms and putting them on the front lines into the meat grinder.

00:12:14.000 And for what?

00:12:16.000 And what did Zelensky run on?

00:12:18.000 Oh, that's right.

00:12:19.000 He canceled elections.

00:12:22.000 You don't know if he even has the support of his people.

00:12:25.000 Ukraine is one of the oldest countries in the world on average.

00:12:29.000 They are burning up their future.

00:12:31.000 They are destroying their demography.

00:12:34.000 For what?

00:12:36.000 An extra 50 miles of land that you may or may not control?

00:12:40.000 Strike a deal.

00:12:41.000 But Zelensky has other means, other goals, and some means to get there.

00:12:48.000 What they are exactly, I'm not sure.

00:12:52.000 And Zelensky keeps on saying, well, my people want this.

00:12:55.000 How do you know what your people want if you don't have an election?

00:13:00.000 Abraham Lincoln had an election in the midst of the American Civil War.

00:13:03.000 FDR had elections in the midst of World War II. It's possible to do elections in the midst of war, conflict, strife.

00:13:13.000 You see, Zelensky is playing with something very dangerous here.

00:13:18.000 And the Europeans, it's all just a big show. 1.00

00:13:21.000 It's all a big show.

00:13:23.000 The Irish are coming out. 1.00

00:13:25.000 Again, I love Ireland and I love the Irish people.

00:13:28.000 It's not exactly the mighty fighting force of the Irish are going to stop the Russians.

00:13:35.000 The highest level stakes.

00:13:37.000 And President Trump was right when he said that.

00:13:38.000 You don't know.

00:13:40.000 You do not have the cards.

00:13:42.000 And for anybody that says, oh, President Trump was disrespectful to Zelensky, you gotta reprogram.

00:13:48.000 It's Zelensky that was disrespectful to President Trump.

00:13:51.000 President Trump sat there nicely for 40 minutes.

00:13:55.000 For 40 minutes.

00:13:58.000 Trump rolled out the red carpet.

00:14:00.000 Literally the red carpet.

00:14:01.000 It was an official state visit.

00:14:04.000 With the honor guard lining the driveway, all the trappings.

00:14:09.000 And Zelensky comes in with his arms crossed, threatening the United States of America. 0.65

00:14:14.000 Effectively threatening our country and threatening all of you.

00:14:18.000 And Zelensky is now even done with Lindsey Graham.

00:14:21.000 He's done.

00:14:22.000 President Donald Trump wants to broker an end to the killing.

00:14:26.000 A peace deal that will transcend all peace deals.

00:14:29.000 But the warmongers in this country and Zelensky... 1.00

00:14:33.000 And he's just blinded by war.

00:14:35.000 You just have to kind of cast him aside.

00:14:36.000 But for our own citizens and our own ruling class and the media chattering class, they want U.S. Marines in Kiev, and that's not going to happen.

00:14:44.000 Peace is a threat to the warmongers.

00:14:48.000 If we have permanent peace, what are these people going to do all day long?

00:14:51.000 The job justification of our permanent general class.

00:14:54.000 What are they going to do?

00:14:55.000 This whole thing puts on display the military-industrial complex, the permanent unelected bureaucratic scientific elite.

00:15:03.000 And there will be no winner.

00:15:04.000 There are only losers.

00:15:07.000 This is a Pyrrhic victory, as they would say.

00:15:10.000 That even if you win, you lose.

00:15:13.000 Even if you are the winner, you have no people left.

00:15:16.000 Over 1.2 million people have been killed.

00:15:19.000 That we know of.

00:15:21.000 Entire generations are missing.

00:15:23.000 Towns are gone.

00:15:25.000 And Zelensky won't come to the table?

00:15:28.000 That's morally objectionable.

00:15:31.000 A ceasefire is the only way forward.

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00:16:37.000 Joining us now is Todd Benzman, fellow for the Center for Immigration Studies, author of Overrun.

00:16:44.000 But honestly, Todd, you're going to have to come up with a new title and a new book because we're not overrun any longer.

00:16:50.000 Todd, welcome to the program.

00:16:51.000 Todd is the premier expert on the southern border invasion.

00:16:57.000 Todd, in the last month of Biden's regime, how many people on average were crossing the southern border?

00:17:03.000 And now what have we seen over the last 30 days?

00:17:06.000 Right.

00:17:06.000 We've seen the numbers drop from the last month Biden administration by two-thirds.

00:17:14.000 Just through January.

00:17:15.000 And now it's down by another two-thirds to, for February, 8,326 illegal crossings of apprehensions.

00:17:28.000 All of those people have been detained and expelled or are being expelled right now.

00:17:33.000 None of them are being released.

00:17:34.000 That number, according to Mike Banks, the new chief of Border Patrol, is the lowest number in U.S. recorded history.

00:17:44.000 Just to give you an idea, 8,000 may sound like a lot to the uninitiated, but in December of 2023, which was the height of the whole thing, if you include the parolees that they were letting fly in and cross in over the land ports, plus illegal immigrants, it was close to 400,000.

00:18:05.000 So that's the night and day.

00:18:10.000 That's kind of a norm, an unbelievable norm, 8,000 a day.

00:18:14.000 I hope that they can maintain that.

00:18:17.000 If they do, we'll have the lowest year of illegal immigration on record.

00:18:23.000 So I just want to repeat that.

00:18:25.000 So how many people a day on average under Biden?

00:18:28.000 It was almost sometimes 5,000 to 10,000 a day.

00:18:31.000 Is that correct?

00:18:32.000 That's right.

00:18:33.000 The typical day was 7,000 to 8,000 a day, but that ranged up to 14,000 a day.

00:18:41.000 Very often we had 9,000, 10,000, 12,000 a day.

00:18:45.000 It was just an absolute torrent of humanity.

00:18:49.000 And the reason is simply, I know you know this, but we were releasing most of them into the interior.

00:18:56.000 And once word of that spreads...

00:18:57.000 They're willing to lay down their smuggling fee money and gamble that they're going to get into.

00:19:03.000 All that was ever necessary here.

00:19:06.000 We didn't need some big Senate bill.

00:19:09.000 Senate bill, the Lankford Senate bill.

00:19:11.000 Remember the Harris campaign?

00:19:13.000 What a fraud that guy is.

00:19:14.000 Senator Lankford, that guy needs to be removed from office.

00:19:18.000 Senator Lankford is a complete fraud.

00:19:20.000 Please continue.

00:19:21.000 Oh, root causes.

00:19:23.000 We have to fix the root causes of immigration. 1.00

00:19:27.000 We've got to do a Marshall Plan in Central America.

00:19:31.000 We have to have comprehensive immigration reform that's going to take years and complex bipartisan deals and all that kind of stuff.

00:19:40.000 No.

00:19:41.000 All that was ever needed was a push of a button, which is follow the law as it exists.

00:19:49.000 Detention.

00:19:51.000 Expulsion, deportation, proceedings, no catch and release.

00:19:56.000 That's all that was ever needed.

00:19:58.000 It took all of one hour on Inauguration Day to close the southern border or to get it as close to operationally secure as I think we can ever really hope to get it.

00:20:12.000 The operational secure border is zero.

00:20:16.000 So if you just have 200 or 300 a day coming in, I mean, that's pretty good.

00:20:21.000 Take it.

00:20:21.000 That's a win.

00:20:23.000 The issue there is that we let America think that there was some big complicated thing going on.

00:20:33.000 That we're just victims.

00:20:35.000 We have to just curl up in a fetal position and take the beating because that's just the way the world is.

00:20:41.000 It never was that.

00:20:43.000 It never was that.

00:20:45.000 All that was ever needed was detention, deportation, expulsion, no catch and release, period.

00:20:54.000 End of story.

00:20:55.000 It's over.

00:20:56.000 Now, having said that, probably at the cost of my book sales, whatever it is the truth, that we're not...

00:21:07.000 we can't let off the gas because, you know, Trump, the policies that he's put in place, those policies, which are in line with the law, the law requires those things have to be maintained rigorously.

00:21:20.000 You can't make exceptions.

00:21:21.000 It has to be evenly applied border length or the duration, or they will reverse.

00:21:28.000 It will come back.

00:21:30.000 But right now you're seeing reverse migration.

00:21:35.000 You're seeing in the Darien Gap, which I visited in August, there are thousands of people all around me moving north in the transition period when Biden was still in office.

00:21:46.000 They're reversing.

00:21:47.000 They're going back the other way.

00:21:49.000 Thousands moving from Mexico.

00:21:53.000 Back through Panama and then back around to Colombia and going home to supposedly very dangerous countries that we had to give them refuge from, sanctuary and asylum from.

00:22:07.000 They're returning to those countries in large numbers. 0.99

00:22:10.000 So this is really extraordinary.

00:22:14.000 I want to say one other thing.

00:22:17.000 We're not done.

00:22:18.000 The Trump administration is just at the beginning.

00:22:20.000 They have to hermetically close that border.

00:22:23.000 They've got to stop the bleeding first.

00:22:25.000 Then they've got a big cleanup in the interior.

00:22:28.000 We have 10, 12 million.

00:22:30.000 Nobody really knows how many came in over the last four years.

00:22:33.000 And that's where the Trump administration is gearing up an infrastructure right now.

00:22:40.000 And then there's the cartels.

00:22:42.000 That's part of the policy and fentanyl trafficking.

00:22:45.000 So the whole three-part program isn't over yet.

00:22:49.000 It's just that the first part, the most important part maybe, is that the blood is stopped.

00:22:55.000 So Todd, I just want to repeat those numbers.

00:22:59.000 277 a day, and all of which are being returned to their country of origin. 0.98

00:23:04.000 They're not being released into the interior.

00:23:06.000 One thing that is striking to me, before we dive more into the cleanup, Is that how prepared President Trump's team was for that?

00:23:15.000 You say that it's the lowest ever recorded, but that means that President Trump is even beating his records from the first Trump term.

00:23:23.000 What did the Trump team learn, especially during those four years off, so that day one they were so prepared, where in the first term they were still figuring this out?

00:23:33.000 Right.

00:23:33.000 This is definitely lower than even the first term.

00:23:37.000 The big change was To bring the Mexican military on board, they used that 25% trade tariff cudgel, sledgehammer.

00:23:47.000 If you don't put out down there, Mexico, we're going to put your economy in recession inside of a month or two with these trade tariffs.

00:23:56.000 So they put out 10,000 troops that are turning anybody that they catch. 0.67

00:24:02.000 Back down into southern Mexico and even doing their own deportations from southern Mexico to home countries.

00:24:11.000 The Trump administration did that in the first, in 1.0, but they did it much later in the administration.

00:24:18.000 Now they did it first in using the cudgel of a trade sanction.

00:24:28.000 So that was huge.

00:24:29.000 And the other thing is that We're using something called 212F, which is an instant expulsion authority that's clearly spelled out in current law, the INA, 212F. Go Google it.

00:24:42.000 Look it up.

00:24:43.000 There's been some litigation with it, but it allows the president to instantly expel all comers without providing asylum.

00:24:52.000 Now, they expected there'd be some litigation, so they put in behind it, remain in Mexico, which also allows...

00:25:00.000 Quick expulsions.

00:25:01.000 You can claim asylum, but you have to wait in Mexico.

00:25:05.000 You don't get released.

00:25:07.000 That's the big thing.

00:25:09.000 That has been vetted all the way to the Supreme Court from Trump 1.0.

00:25:15.000 So that's ready to go, too.

00:25:17.000 They've got multi-layered architecture in there.

00:25:21.000 They put far more military personnel down there for spotting to be able to fill gaps into To be in places where Border Patrol isn't.

00:25:36.000 And that's making an impact.

00:25:39.000 But another big impact is the fact that since they're not releasing everybody that comes to the border, they don't need Border Patrol to process them in.

00:25:49.000 So they're out there catching illegal immigrants and detaining them instead of doing babysitting and... 0.73

00:25:57.000 Providing baby formula and food and water while they process people into the interior. 0.99

00:26:03.000 Everything's different than the first time.

00:26:06.000 They definitely learned a lot from 1.0 on how to shut that border down.

00:26:11.000 And also that the...

00:26:13.000 There were several Supreme Court decisions that laid the basis so that they could move quickly.

00:26:19.000 Remember last time there was injunction after injunction.

00:26:21.000 You can't build the wall of military equipment.

00:26:23.000 You can't deport.

00:26:24.000 You can't do that.

00:26:25.000 They remain in Mexico on forward.

00:26:27.000 All that is now settled.

00:26:29.000 Is that correct?

00:26:30.000 That's correct.

00:26:31.000 And that wall will be built.

00:26:33.000 They're already getting things ginned up for that.

00:26:36.000 That will be built too.

00:26:37.000 So all of those things are...

00:26:40.000 You know, they can't be litigated.

00:26:41.000 They were litigated almost all their policies were frozen and neutralized during the beginning of Trump 1.0.

00:26:49.000 As soon as the world found out that Trump wasn't actually doing the things that he promised in 1.0, they came in massive waves.

00:26:59.000 We had like 900,000, almost a million family units cross in and Trump couldn't really do anything about it because he was litigated.

00:27:08.000 His hands were all tied.

00:27:10.000 None of that's the case now.

00:27:12.000 And just a reminder, everybody, James Lankford, if you're from Oklahoma, that guy lied to you.

00:27:16.000 He went and tried to do a deal with the worst people in the world, the Democrats, saying, oh, we need all this money to secure the border.

00:27:22.000 No, what you needed was President Trump.

00:27:24.000 And you gave the Democrats an unnecessary talking point throughout the election that probably helped them win one or two extra Senate seats.

00:27:31.000 That's all on Mr. Lankford.

00:27:33.000 So don't forget that.

00:27:35.000 Lankford, oh, we need to have a bipartisan bill.

00:27:37.000 No, we didn't.

00:27:38.000 And he was the lackey for Kamala Harris.

00:27:40.000 I'll never forget that.

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00:28:48.000 So, Todd, how many illegals are in the interior of our country and how do we remove them? 1.00

00:28:53.000 Well, the Center for Immigration Studies estimates that there's somewhere on the order of about 12 million that came in under this particular historic crisis.

00:29:05.000 So those are recent arrivals.

00:29:09.000 Most of them or many of them are on public welfare systems.

00:29:13.000 Some of them are in sort of like a quasi-legal state of applying for different kinds of benefits.

00:29:20.000 So there's going to be – we can't just swoop in and get everybody.

00:29:24.000 But there are undoubtedly many millions that are completely illegal.

00:29:30.000 There's at least half a million or 650,000 criminal aliens that are immediately deportable, if we can lay hands on them.

00:29:42.000 Who are under final judicial orders to be removed, but that the last administration refused to ever remove anybody.

00:29:51.000 And then you've got everybody else that haven't been, they haven't gotten in any trouble yet.

00:29:55.000 They haven't been through all the appeals.

00:29:57.000 There are people who are here on parole programs.

00:30:00.000 So all different categories.

00:30:01.000 Plenty of work to do to be able to look at it this way.

00:30:05.000 It's like a...

00:30:07.000 Category 9 hurricane just raked the country for four years back and forth.

00:30:12.000 And now you've got this mammoth cleanup to do.

00:30:15.000 And it's not going to be easy.

00:30:17.000 It's going to be expensive.

00:30:19.000 And it's going to take phases to do the mass deportations.

00:30:26.000 And one of the key problems, challenges, is that the Biden administration systematically dismantled the detention.

00:30:38.000 Deportation machine.

00:30:40.000 And there's parts laying all over the garage, basically.

00:30:44.000 So you have Tom Homan.

00:30:45.000 Everybody's got to come in and rebuild that infrastructure to rebuild that machine and get it tuned up.

00:30:50.000 So chill out.

00:30:52.000 It's going to happen.

00:30:53.000 It's just going to take a little bit of time.

00:30:55.000 But they've moved out 50,000 criminal aliens already in a month or month and a half.

00:31:01.000 That's 50,000 of the worst.

00:31:04.000 First worst, they said.

00:31:06.000 And many more like that are coming.

00:31:09.000 But eventually they will expand out as they get more detention space, more officers, more of everything.

00:31:17.000 There's a $175 billion request in the current budget package for this kind of work.

00:31:27.000 We will need to see that if they want to get the...

00:31:34.000 Well, explain to the audience, or especially to me, the tension between states that declare themselves sanctuary states like California and federal immigration law.

00:31:47.000 Has that been settled?

00:31:48.000 It's being settled.

00:31:50.000 The problem is that we call it sanctuary policy.

00:31:54.000 These are sanctuary cities.

00:31:56.000 I don't really like that term.

00:31:58.000 The term sort of papers over what it's really at root about.

00:32:03.000 At root, what sanctuary policy is about is that local police chiefs, sheriffs, prison officials won't simply call ICE, pick up the phone and call ICE and let them know when a criminal alien is about to be released so that ICE can be right there.

00:32:25.000 To pick them up and they don't enjoy one moment of freedom.

00:32:29.000 And then we deport them.

00:32:31.000 They won't do that simple thing.

00:32:33.000 Well, that is mostly the category of immigrants that you're talking about there are criminals. 1.00

00:32:40.000 any mayor or police chief or sheriff anywhere in the world would be down with that to inflict those kinds of illegal aliens on their own people. 0.99

00:32:53.000 I'll never understand as long as I live, but they're doing that.

00:32:57.000 That makes ICE officers have to go track them down at their homes or in their workplaces or whatever.

00:33:05.000 And it's an officer safety issue.

00:33:07.000 It's not easy to catch them.

00:33:10.000 You're going to find all kinds of other illegal aliens around them that aren't criminals that have to be swept up as well.

00:33:17.000 It's not...

00:33:19.000 Efficient and it's not safe.

00:33:22.000 And I think what the Trump administration is endeavoring to do is to withdraw federal funding from sanctuary jurisdictions until they play ball.

00:33:32.000 And why wouldn't you want to play ball on something like that?

00:33:35.000 Why wouldn't you?

00:33:37.000 So, Todd, your next book is going to be called Once Overrun, Now Liberated.

00:33:43.000 That should be the new title.

00:33:45.000 Thank you, Todd.

00:33:45.000 Excellent work.

00:33:46.000 Come back anytime.

00:33:47.000 Thank you.

00:33:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:50.000 Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - March 03, 2025

Saving The Border in One Month

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