The Charlie Kirk Show - SCOTUS Scores Back to Back to Back with Will Scharf

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, the Supreme Court delivers a big win.

00:00:03.000 Will Sharf joins us to talk about it?

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00:00:23.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.

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00:01:04.000 Today is a great day.

00:01:06.000 It is.

00:01:06.000 Yesterday was a good day with the affirmative action ruling.

00:01:09.000 And I just want to repeat: President Donald Trump is being indicted because he put three people on the Supreme Court that are striking down and slowing down the cultural revolution.

00:01:20.000 We are living through a cultural revolution in our country, but it's not going as seamless as the bad guys would hope.

00:01:29.000 The Supreme Court is saying, hold on, stop.

00:01:31.000 Can't do that.

00:01:33.000 Student loans can't do that. 0.98

00:01:35.000 Affirmative action, not so fast.

00:01:38.000 Forcing people to conduct business against their deeply held beliefs, can't do that.

00:01:43.000 Now, not every decision has been terrific.

00:01:45.000 The state legislature decision wasn't what I would have liked, but today is a great day.

00:01:50.000 And we're going to walk through all the specifics.

00:01:53.000 And again, President Donald Trump is being indicted in a revenge-filled pathological campaign because they want to make him pay.

00:02:03.000 They want to make him pay for putting Amy Coney Barrett, Neil Gorsuch, and Brett Kavanaugh.

00:02:10.000 Remember, it was supposed to be Hillary Clinton.

00:02:12.000 It was supposed to be Katanji Brown 1, Katanji Brown 2, and Katanji Brown 3 on the Supreme Court.

00:02:17.000 Not Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

00:02:20.000 So today's a great day.

00:02:22.000 We really don't need that much nuance like yesterday's affirmative action ruling, which was still a good ruling. 0.92

00:02:28.000 Today is great, especially when it comes to this Colorado decision.

00:02:32.000 And we received some emails of some people that were a little confused.

00:02:34.000 They say, well, Charlie, I don't quite understand the Colorado decision.

00:02:37.000 I'm a little confused.

00:02:39.000 And, you know, what are the kind of other, let's just say, aspects of this?

00:02:45.000 Let's go through it all.

00:02:46.000 So this is another decision out of Colorado.

00:02:49.000 And it's not a coincidence.

00:02:50.000 This all comes out of Colorado.

00:02:52.000 I'll explain.

00:02:53.000 That involves a private business and LGBTQ mafia activism. 0.90

00:03:00.000 Okay, so it's 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis.

00:03:05.000 Remember, you had the cake case that came out of Colorado.

00:03:08.000 This is a case out of Colorado and yet another installment in the bake the cake gay rights war. 0.86

00:03:14.000 Lori Smith creates wedding websites and the state of Colorado wanted to force her to create gay wedding websites despite her strong objection to gay marriage as a Christian.

00:03:25.000 Now, let's press pause here.

00:03:27.000 It has been well documented that the human rights campaign and the gay mafia, they have millions, tens of millions of dollars, and they go out and they set the stage. 1.00

00:03:39.000 They case hunt for these decisions.

00:03:42.000 They find the businesses.

00:03:44.000 They send in people that know the script very, very well, and they will relentlessly use lawfare to try to get their way.

00:03:53.000 In a 6-3 decision authored by Neil Gorsuch, the Supreme Court ruled that the First Amendment means Smith cannot be forced to create a website that violates her faith.

00:04:02.000 The head of the human rights campaign, Kelly Robinson, says this ruling, quote, is a deeply troubling crack in our progress and should be alarming to us all.

00:04:10.000 This is a clear-cut sign that this is a great ruling.

00:04:14.000 Now, let's press pause.

00:04:16.000 You might say, well, Charlie, you're trying to say that you're okay with businesses saying no to people they do not want to do business with.

00:04:23.000 Well, we have a lot of experience with this, actually, at Turning Point USA, a lot of experience.

00:04:29.000 And I could say, yes, I am okay with it.

00:04:31.000 It would be easier for me to say, you know what?

00:04:34.000 Everybody should be forced to do business with people they don't like.

00:04:37.000 Do you know how many dozens and hundreds of hotels, venues we've had to go through throughout the years at Turning Point USA that have canceled us from Ithaca, New York to Brooklyn, New York?

00:04:48.000 But we always say the same thing.

00:04:49.000 They have a right to say no.

00:04:51.000 They do not want to do business with Turning Point USA.

00:04:53.000 They have a right to say that we don't like Turning Point's values.

00:04:56.000 We don't like what they stand for.

00:04:57.000 And they go away.

00:04:58.000 We honor their right to do that.

00:05:01.000 We honor their right to say no that they don't want to do business at Turning Point USA.

00:05:05.000 We don't go sue them and say, hey, Hyatt, or hey, local hotel.

00:05:10.000 We're angry.

00:05:10.000 We'll go to the court of public opinion and we'll say we don't like it.

00:05:14.000 Now, if it's a government facility, different aspect.

00:05:17.000 But we understand that when you have liberty, you're going to have certain people wall off their doors to their private business and say, no, no, no.

00:05:26.000 In fact, we just dealt with this.

00:05:28.000 And in fact, this might have actually been a violation of the Civil Rights Act, of which we have kind of taken a Caldwell approach and think that the Civil Rights Act in 1964 was way too broad and largely poorly written.

00:05:40.000 But that's a different topic for a different time.

00:05:43.000 Let's focus on what's in front of us today.

00:05:45.000 But we had a Blexit event in New York where we had eight different venues cancel us, eight venues, because they said that Turning Point USA Blexit spreads hate.

00:05:57.000 That it's a hate group, that it's a white supremacist group.

00:06:00.000 Yeah, that Blexit, Brandon Tatum, Candace Owens, white supremacist group.

00:06:05.000 Now, we went to the court of public opinion and we complained publicly, but we know they have a right to do that.

00:06:10.000 In fact, I think it's a good thing that private businesses and entrepreneurs are not forced by the government to host an organization like Turning Point USA that they detest.

00:06:20.000 If they don't want the money, then turn it away.

00:06:22.000 They're the ones that would lose the ability to sell goods and services and rent out their venue, their theater.

00:06:31.000 So we deal with this all the time.

00:06:32.000 This is not some sort of hypothetical.

00:06:34.000 It's not some sort of theoretical.

00:06:36.000 But what makes Turning Point USA different than the LGBTQ cartel is I do not want to force a business to do business. 0.99

00:06:46.000 I do not want to force a business to have to broker with me.

00:06:50.000 They do.

00:06:50.000 They want to go to every last entrepreneur and say, you don't agree with trans surgeries for kids, do business with us.

00:06:57.000 Now, the gay marriage thing is one aspect of this, but let's take a more extreme and real example.

00:07:02.000 Let's pretend that you're a website designer, of which this was the issue.

00:07:07.000 And let's pretend that you find it objectionable that eight-year-olds, 10-year-olds, and 11-year-olds are getting chemical castration surgery.

00:07:21.000 Let's just say that you think it's really obscene that 12-year-olds have to get their parts chopped off.

00:07:30.000 But let's say that a company comes in, Pfizer comes in, and they want you to design a website against your values.

00:07:36.000 Do you have the constitutional right to say, I don't want to design art that's against my values?

00:07:42.000 Let me give you another example.

00:07:43.000 Let's pretend a pornography company comes in and wants you to design a website filled with porn.

00:07:50.000 And you're a deeply religious person and you don't want to have to design graphics or pieces of art that are profane.

00:07:58.000 Do you have to be forced to do that?

00:08:00.000 Of course not.

00:08:02.000 And so when you have liberty, you have the liberty to say no.

00:08:06.000 The world might find that bigoted.

00:08:08.000 The world might find that intolerant.

00:08:10.000 Too bad.

00:08:12.000 That's what makes the constitutional order work.

00:08:16.000 The head of the human rights campaign says a deeply troubling crack in our progress should be alarming to us all.

00:08:20.000 Time out.

00:08:21.000 Time out, time out, time out.

00:08:23.000 You're trying to tell me that there is some sort of a lack of gay website designers in Colorado, as if this was some sort of like civil rights campaign that they couldn't find a single website designer in all of Colorado to accommodate their needs.

00:08:40.000 The three liberal justices have dissents, meanwhile, arguing that, yes, the government can literally force you to celebrate a gay wedding every step of the way, which of course then would expand to you can you have to do business with trans activists, you have to do business.

00:08:54.000 So let me give you another example of how far-reaching this could be.

00:08:58.000 Let's pretend, for example, a loop run, they chemically castrate kids.

00:09:06.000 They want to advertise on the Charlie Kirk show.

00:09:08.000 And I say, you know what?

00:09:09.000 We do not want to do an ad read that celebrates the chemical castration of children.

00:09:15.000 Do I have the right to say no as a podcast host and radio host that I do not want to read advertisements that way?

00:09:22.000 Or do I not?

00:09:24.000 They want to force speech against values.

00:09:26.000 They don't care about your values.

00:09:28.000 And this is all in the name of tolerance.

00:09:31.000 This is a great decision.

00:09:33.000 The world is up in arms over this.

00:09:35.000 It's LGBTQ hate. 1.00

00:09:37.000 Listen, no, it's not.

00:09:39.000 The ability to say no is what actually keeps our society orderly.

00:09:44.000 We get told no all the time.

00:09:46.000 We have to venue hunt in the most liberal pockets of existence in America.

00:09:53.000 Yes, it makes life a little bit harder.

00:09:56.000 But honestly, I would never want to force a venue to have to host something against their values.

00:10:01.000 Don't want our money, so be it.

00:10:03.000 It's called a free society.

00:10:04.000 It's much better than living in totalitarianism.

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00:10:50.000 Okay, let me get you another example.

00:10:52.000 Think about it this way.

00:10:53.000 The ability to say no keeps you free and that bothers people.

00:10:57.000 Imagine, though, should a Jewish kosher restaurant owner be forced to make a BLT bacon lettuce tomato against kosher laws on the Sabbath for a gay pride parade?

00:11:13.000 No, of course not.

00:11:14.000 He should say no.

00:11:15.000 I don't work on the Sabbath, which, by the way, is another Supreme Court decision that came down.

00:11:19.000 We'll get to that.

00:11:20.000 I don't make anything with pork.

00:11:22.000 It's against my religion.

00:11:24.000 And I don't believe in homosexuality.

00:11:27.000 Should he be able to say no?

00:11:29.000 If the decision went the other way, by the way, a Muslim director could be forced to make a pro-Zionism film or vice versa.

00:11:36.000 A Jewish film director could be forced to make an anti-Israel film.

00:11:42.000 The significance of this allows for expression, for agency, and we also need to make sure you understand the nuance between private and public.

00:11:53.000 When you're dealing with private businesses, private association, entrepreneurs, you have the ability to say, no, when you're dealing with in government, it's a separate issue.

00:12:05.000 Okay, but let me read this a little bit further, some of the notes we have here. 0.97

00:12:08.000 To justify this level of invasion, Justice Sotomayor, who again is the dumbest Supreme Court justice, says that if we do not have the government force the celebration of gay marriage on everyone, we'll have countless hate crimes against gay people. 0.95

00:12:24.000 And then in the irony of ironies, she cites the Matthew Shepard killing as her example. 0.97

00:12:29.000 Matthew Shepard, you'll recall, was a gay man murdered in Wyoming in the late 1990s.

00:12:33.000 There's a federal hate crime named after him, but as shown by research by a gay journalist, Shepard wasn't killed in a hate crime.

00:12:40.000 One of his killers, in fact, was a former gay lover of his, and the killing was drug-related.

00:12:45.000 In her dissent, arguing Christians should be forced to make websites.

00:12:49.000 She mentions Matthew Shepard, but she doesn't even know the story. 0.89

00:12:52.000 The United States Constitution has a preference for liberty, for freedom.

00:13:01.000 The ability for you as an individual to associate with who you want to associate with.

00:13:06.000 What are your values?

00:13:08.000 Now, remember, the progression of the LGBT whatever agenda first starts with, you must tolerate us.

00:13:18.000 Then you must accept us.

00:13:21.000 And then you must celebrate us.

00:13:23.000 And then you must participate with us.

00:13:28.000 If this decision would have went the opposite direction, you could then have churches have to be forced to rent out their gymnasium potentially for a gay wedding. 0.66

00:13:41.000 You could then have hotels or restaurants have to have their services go to people against their deeply held beliefs.

00:13:52.000 But guess what?

00:13:53.000 The LGBTQ mafia, they already are doing the thing that they want to force the other side not to do. 1.00

00:14:02.000 You go into downtown San Francisco, or if you go into downtown New York and you walk into any one of those stores and you wear a there are only two sexes t-shirt with a make America great again hat and you just go try and get a beer, I bet they're going to try to deny you service and they have a right to do that. 0.97

00:14:25.000 You see, what we have with this decision is the kind of gay movement that was supposed to shill speech and shutter our ability to push back against this, put in its place. 1.00

00:14:44.000 Now, some people say, well, Charlie, what about skin color?

00:14:47.000 And well, hold on a second.

00:14:49.000 Somebody's sexual preferences is a lot different than somebody's immutable characteristics.

00:14:55.000 It's totally different.

00:14:57.000 And the Civil Rights Act was written on the idea that there were no other options for people, particularly black people in the South, to be able to shop, to be able to associate with.

00:15:09.000 Plenty of options for people in the, not only there options, the entire system is set up to favor them.

00:15:18.000 And I've said it before, the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a drastic action for a drastic case.

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00:18:20.000 Joining us now is Will Scharf.

00:18:22.000 He is running for Attorney General of Missouri.

00:18:24.000 I've known Will for a long time, really smart lawyer.

00:18:26.000 Will, welcome to the program.

00:18:27.000 Will walk us through the significance of this week, and then we'll get into particulars of the victories that this Supreme Court has issued, the opinions they've issued.

00:18:38.000 Will, walk us through it.

00:18:39.000 The floor is yours.

00:18:41.000 Thanks so much for having me on, Charlie.

00:18:43.000 You know, I think what we've seen, not just in this week, but in the past two years, is a seismic shift in constitutional jurisprudence in this country.

00:18:52.000 I think a lot of the folks who said that, you know, who cast doubt on President Trump's judicial picks, those of us who worked on those judicial picks, they all have egg on their face right now because what we've seen in the last two years is one of the momentous changes in American law, really, that anyone could have imagined that anyone, a few could have foreseen.

00:19:14.000 This week, we saw the Supreme Court speak strongly and finally overturn race-based affirmative action, which has been in one way or another a lab in this country for over 50 years.

00:19:26.000 We've seen yesterday and today two outstanding religious liberty opinions in the Groff case and 303 Creative overturning the Biden administration's wild overreach on student loan forgiveness just go down the line in case after case.

00:19:43.000 The conservative legal movement is ascendant and those who would do violence to our Constitution, the separation of powers and the laws that ultimately bind us together are in full-on retreat.

00:19:55.000 It's a great day for America. 0.93

00:19:57.000 It's been a great week for America. 0.99

00:19:59.000 So let's go through this, the student loan in particular.

00:20:02.000 This one is I'm very passionate about.

00:20:03.000 I never went to college and I tend to speak for the unwashed people. 1.00

00:20:08.000 That's a joke, those of us that didn't go to college.

00:20:10.000 That's what we get called by the elite society.

00:20:12.000 You went to some great college, Will, and much smarter than I am.

00:20:16.000 But for those of us that didn't take student loan debt, the argument's a little simplified, but let's just go through it.

00:20:23.000 Technically, the taxpayers who didn't go to college have to then subsidize those that took out massive student loans.

00:20:30.000 Well, the Supreme Court has come in and said, no, no, no, you have overreached.

00:20:34.000 Will explain this decision for us.

00:20:36.000 So if you can imagine, it's even worse than that, Charlie.

00:20:39.000 What the Biden administration did, they took an act called the HEROES Act, which is a post-9-11 act intended to benefit veterans.

00:20:48.000 And they argued that language in that act gave them the right to, as you said, forgive billions and billions and billions of dollars of student loans taken out by people who just had nothing to do with the original purpose of this act.

00:21:03.000 The challenge we as a movement had in challenging this act was finding a party withstanding, a party that could articulate a harm from what Biden was doing beyond the harm that all of us suffer as a country when the government acts lawlessly in that way.

00:21:20.000 And a team of lawyers under former Missouri Attorney General, now Senator Eric Schmidt, led by a guy named Michael Tallant, who's a good friend of mine, found a Missouri state entity called Mohila that they believed had the right to sue.

00:21:34.000 Today, the Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision said that they were right, that Missouri, this Missouri entity called Mohila, did have the right to sue.

00:21:44.000 And most importantly, they ruled in a strong opinion that what the Biden administration did was totally extra-legal.

00:21:51.000 There was no statutory authorization for them to do that.

00:21:55.000 And in a country like ours, governed by the rule of law, the Biden administration had no right to just go out there and cancel all of this debt.

00:22:04.000 So more than anything else, it was a vindication of the rule of law and a vindication of our system of separation of powers, in addition to being a vindication and a victory for people all over the country who paid off their student loans or who, like you, didn't go to college, but went on to great success in their lives.

00:22:26.000 So it was a huge win.

00:22:28.000 It was one that a lot of people were worried about because of these complicated jurisdictional issues buried in it.

00:22:34.000 But thankfully, we had a strong 6-3 opinion.

00:22:37.000 And I think we're going to see more of that in the coming years as the Biden administration continues to overreach in so many areas.

00:22:45.000 Yeah.

00:22:46.000 And so, Will, let's just talk more multi-generationally in one sense.

00:22:52.000 So you've been kind of in the conservative legal world.

00:22:55.000 Is it fair to say that the victories we're seeing now would have just been unthinkable a decade ago or even a decade and a half ago?

00:23:03.000 I mean, what we're seeing from affirmative action being struck down, Roe versus Wade last year, the student loan thing.

00:23:09.000 We're seeing the decision out of Colorado, which I totally am thrilled with.

00:23:14.000 We're seeing one after the other.

00:23:16.000 This is in some ways better than we could have possibly have imagined a decade ago.

00:23:21.000 Donald Trump deserves extraordinary credit, but also the Federalist Society worked very, very hard for years to get good judges in place.

00:23:29.000 So we'll talk about the significance here.

00:23:31.000 And I'm trying to prompt you towards a pace of positivity because our audience needs it because there's just like black pills being dispensed every day.

00:23:40.000 So Will, how big is this?

00:23:42.000 I think a decade ago, we couldn't have dreamed of these wins.

00:23:46.000 Of course, we couldn't have.

00:23:47.000 And remember, it was just last year that we overturned Roe versus Wade.

00:23:52.000 We got the Bruin case, which is the most important Second Amendment case in a generation.

00:23:58.000 This court that really, as you said, President Trump deserves a ton of credit for, is shifting the bounds of the law and is just changing the realm of the possible.

00:24:11.000 We finally, after a century of liberal judicial activism, have a court that's willing to stand up for the Constitution, stand up for the rule of law, stand up for the separation of powers.

00:24:22.000 And we are just starting to see how much that will mean for America.

00:24:27.000 I think in the coming years, you're going to see more litigation over race conscious, basically racist policies in government contracting in an American society.

00:24:38.000 I think we're going to see a lot more attention paid to issues of religious liberty, making sure that Americans of faith have full access to all aspects of American society and won't face discrimination for their beliefs or their practices.

00:24:55.000 I think we're just at the leading edge of what's going to be a revolution in constitutional law in this country.

00:25:01.000 And as you said, President Trump deserves a ton of credit for that.

00:25:05.000 Three great justices, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett.

00:25:08.000 As you know, I was honored to work on the confirmations of Kavanaugh and Barrett.

00:25:13.000 All of us who were involved in that process are just really proud right now.

00:25:17.000 And you should be.

00:25:17.000 I mean, this is multi-generational type stuff that really puts the brakes on this Maoist cultural evolution.

00:25:26.000 Talk about that, Will.

00:25:28.000 And you see it in the anger in the left-wing legal commentary.

00:25:32.000 You see it in, I think this is one of the reasons why they're indicting Trump.

00:25:34.000 They just hate him so much.

00:25:35.000 They need to get it out of their system. 1.00

00:25:37.000 These are sick people. 0.93

00:25:38.000 And this only reminds them. 0.98

00:25:39.000 This week has been a reminder why they need to try to punish Donald Trump, because they say this guy never should have won.

00:25:47.000 It should have been three justices that Hillary Clinton put in place.

00:25:51.000 But that plan was disrupted.

00:25:53.000 And their incredibly radical agenda is now being struck down by Article 3 of the Constitution.

00:26:00.000 And Will, I love the way you said it.

00:26:02.000 We might be on the leading edge of a renaissance, a revitalization.

00:26:06.000 And again, this is what I want to just challenge all of you in the audience.

00:26:09.000 Things can get better.

00:26:11.000 It takes work.

00:26:12.000 It takes sometimes the divine grace of the Lord, which I think played a role in Donald Trump's victory in 2016.

00:26:19.000 And then it takes, you know, some taking risks.

00:26:22.000 And you have to have good complaints and you have to have the right infrastructure.

00:26:25.000 And so I think all these things are super important.

00:26:28.000 So, Will, what would you give this session or this, now that they're out for the summer, how would you grade this?

00:26:37.000 A, B, C, how would you grade this, these opinions that they put forward?

00:26:42.000 It's a clear A, and you'd have to be crazy to think otherwise.

00:26:46.000 There are always going to be folks on the right, you know, who are sitting in their basements rage tweeting about how things could have been better.

00:26:52.000 It's really tough to see how things could be better.

00:26:56.000 The idea of overturning race-based affirmative action finally after 50 years.

00:27:02.000 I mean, these are, as you said, it's a generational fight.

00:27:05.000 The conservative legal movement was out in the wilderness for decades.

00:27:10.000 And thankfully, we were positioned after President Trump's win in 2016 to confirm great judges and justices.

00:27:17.000 Remember, it's not just the Supreme Court.

00:27:19.000 We now have outstanding judges all over the country in federal courts of appeals and federal district courts.

00:27:26.000 And as litigation is generated as a result of the cases this week in higher education, in terms of religious liberty, in terms of the separation of powers, core constitutional principles, we're going to see that hard work finally at long last pay off.

00:27:43.000 But I want to make another point.

00:27:45.000 You talked a bit about the left.

00:27:47.000 It's important for all of us to remember that the left only believes in advancing more leftism.

00:27:53.000 Marx doesn't know how to build.

00:27:55.000 Marxism just generates Marxism.

00:27:59.000 They don't believe in the Constitution.

00:28:01.000 They don't believe in the separation of powers.

00:28:03.000 They don't believe in the ideals and institutions that made this country great.

00:28:07.000 And the second those institutions are no longer advancing leftism, the left will jump through any hoop, jump over any barrier in an effort to tear those institutions down.

00:28:17.000 And in the attack that we've seen on the Supreme Court in recent months, that's where that comes from.

00:28:23.000 And that's why we're seeing that now.

00:28:25.000 The left is furious and they should be because we have finally taken back the federal judiciary and we are finally vindicating the Constitution in courtrooms all across America.

00:28:35.000 Will Scharf, I'll say this.

00:28:37.000 Alito told people that he really trusted after the Obama era and those Supreme Court decisions, he was so depressed that he might have just retired out of despair.

00:28:46.000 Scalia joked around.

00:28:48.000 We actually have this tape.

00:28:49.000 We'll play it in a second with an uncommon knowledge with Peter Robinson that, boy, there is no good news.

00:28:55.000 This is after the 2012 kind of cycle of decisions.

00:28:59.000 11 years later, we have Will Scharf, who's very conservative, great guy, giving an A to the U.S. Supreme Court.

00:29:07.000 Everybody, things can get better.

00:29:09.000 And thank you, Donald Trump, for fulfilling his promise.

00:29:11.000 Will Scharf, thanks so much.

00:29:14.000 Thanks for having me on, Charlie.

00:29:15.000 Always great to be with you.

00:29:18.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

00:29:20.000 Just when you thought the government would stop trying to take over health care, Senator Bernie Sanders, that socialist Marxist communist, is pushing something that is no good.

00:29:28.000 I need your attention right now.

00:29:29.000 I'm urgently asking you to support the Council for Citizens Against Government Waste to stop the Senate from passing the Sanders Bill, S-1339.

00:29:37.000 It would raise the price of prescription drugs by making it harder for pharmacy benefit managers to continue to save an average of $1,000 per year for 275 million Americans just like you.

00:29:46.000 Bernie Sanders, he is a sneaky commie.

00:29:49.000 I'll tell you what.

00:29:50.000 He will not lower prescription drug prices despite what the bill says.

00:29:53.000 It will create a socialist health care system here in America.

00:29:56.000 I've read the bill.

00:29:57.000 It's dangerous.

00:29:58.000 You've got to stop it.

00:29:58.000 You have to sign lowermydrugprices.com.

00:30:01.000 I'm telling you, I'm involved in this.

00:30:03.000 You got to get into the game.

00:30:04.000 Add your name to thousands who are standing up and saying you don't want more government interference in healthcare, but you must hurry.

00:30:10.000 The Sanders bill will come up for a vote in only a few weeks.

00:30:13.000 Go to lowermydrugprices.com.

00:30:15.000 All of us together must oppose the Marxist Bernie Sanders lowermydrugprices.com.

00:30:22.000 Joe Biden has announced new plans on student loans moments after the Supreme Court strikes down his bailout program.

00:30:29.000 He just thinks he can do more executive orders.

00:30:31.000 He doesn't care.

00:30:33.000 The fight will not stop.

00:30:35.000 Great decision.

00:30:36.000 They're going to press on.

00:30:37.000 Are we?

00:30:37.000 Yes.

00:30:39.000 Joe Biden announces that he is going to put forward a new executive action on student loans.

00:30:46.000 So the student loan decision, let's talk about this for a second, is a great decision.

00:30:51.000 Any one of you that did not go to college, this is an insult to you.

00:30:54.000 Every one of you that made decisions to have less student loans, it's an insult to you, what Joe Biden was trying to do.

00:31:02.000 What Joe Biden was trying to do was unilaterally forgive student loans.

00:31:08.000 Biden's plan announced last year was to forgive $10,000 in student loan debt for individuals earning less than $125,000 per year, as well as $20,000 in debt for those who received Pell Grants.

00:31:19.000 For those who received Pell Grants, for example, the estimated cost of this plan was roughly $400 billion.

00:31:26.000 Biden has tried to claim authority to do this by signing the HEROES Act, a post-9-11 law.

00:31:32.000 The HEROES Act responded to 9-11 by giving the Secretary of Education the power to waive or modify any statutory or regulatory provision for somebody, quote, affected by a war or military operation or national emergency.

00:31:45.000 So Biden took this law, argued that COVID was one such national emergency, ridiculous, and then just said it gave him the power to just modify or forgive all student loans in America.

00:31:57.000 It was completely ludicrous stretching of the law in question, and the Supreme Court called it out in their ruling.

00:32:02.000 If Congress wants the president to be able to forgive student loans en masse, they need to pass a law that actually clearly grants that power John Roberts' rights, but they won't be able to get that through Congress because it's deeply unpopular.

00:32:16.000 It's incredible how biased the coverage of this is.

00:32:19.000 For example, they're saying that this is supposed to be a relief bill.

00:32:23.000 America's student borrowers have already received a three-year pause on their student loans due to COVID.

00:32:28.000 This was a gigantic monetary giveaway.

00:32:32.000 During the pause, their loans didn't collect interest, and thanks to Biden's inflation, their real monetary value has declined dramatically.

00:32:40.000 Yet the press is presenting it as incredibly unjust that borrowers will finally have to restart payments this fall.

00:32:46.000 They're protesting that borrowers will finally have to repay the rest of what they owe.

00:32:49.000 And of course, the press acts like this will be incredibly burdensome to do, even though they constantly claim the Biden economy is amazing.

00:32:59.000 For any one of you that worked your way through college, played college sports or athletics, that made the tough financial decisions, Joe Biden trying to unilaterally with a pen get rid of all student loan provisions and just say, you know what, we're going to forgive student loans was an insult to you.

00:33:18.000 And the Supreme Court acted justly in this regard.

00:33:22.000 I want to reiterate a point I made earlier.

00:33:24.000 There's a fair amount of negativity out there, and we receive it in our email inbox, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:30.000 Oh, Charlie, things will never get better.

00:33:32.000 You know, how do we improve?

00:33:34.000 Is the country over with?

00:33:36.000 The honest truth is there's a lot going wrong right now in America.

00:33:39.000 There's a lot of negativity.

00:33:40.000 Our borders are open.

00:33:41.000 We have the silly thing we're doing in Ukraine.

00:33:44.000 Our elections are not secure.

00:33:46.000 We have a lot of problems.

00:33:47.000 We've got double-digit inflation, but not everything is bad.

00:33:51.000 Conservatives focused on the courts.

00:33:54.000 We focused on the courts, post-Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

00:33:59.000 We saw that the Supreme Court has a lot of power.

00:34:03.000 When they borked us, we said, oh, okay, we're going to politicize Supreme Court justices. 0.84

00:34:09.000 Then we're going to make sure we have superstars.

00:34:13.000 If you're going to all of a sudden politicize Supreme Courts, the Supreme Court process, then we're going to get people like Alito.

00:34:19.000 We're going to get people like Clarence Thomas.

00:34:21.000 We're going to get people like Amy Coney Barrett.

00:34:23.000 We're going to get people like Gorsuch and Kavanaugh.

00:34:25.000 Roberts is a whatever.

00:34:28.000 And the United States Supreme Court, yeah, they don't rule correctly all the time. 0.86

00:34:32.000 They get a little goofy here or there.

00:34:34.000 But on the balance, they've been excellent.

00:34:38.000 When we look across the landscape, we do not have the CIA.

00:34:42.000 We do not have the FBI.

00:34:44.000 We do not have the Department of Justice.

00:34:46.000 We do not have Google.

00:34:48.000 We do not have these major corporations.

00:34:51.000 I'm not trying to even say we have the Supreme Court as patriotic, constitutional-loving Americans.

00:34:57.000 But they're not totally captured.

00:34:59.000 It's thanks to Donald Trump.

00:35:01.000 It's thanks to you.

00:35:01.000 It's thanks to fulfilling those promises and many, many decades of work.

00:35:06.000 So, not all is lost, everybody, on this beautiful last Friday of June, the last Friday of Pride Month.

00:35:11.000 What a way to end Pride Month, by the way.

00:35:14.000 A blow against the LGBTQ compelled speech mafia. 1.00

00:35:20.000 They lose.

00:35:21.000 America wins to win for liberty.

00:35:26.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:35:27.000 Email us your thoughts as always: freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:35:30.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.

00:35:35.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk.com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - June 30, 2023

SCOTUS Scores Back to Back to Back with Will Scharf

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