The Charlie Kirk Show - Scrap or Salvage? Dan Crenshaw and Anthony Sabatini Sound Off on the FBI

00:00:00.000 This is Jack Posobiec sitting in for Charlie Kirk.

00:00:02.000 Huge episode, a controversial episode of the Charlie Kirk Show.

00:00:06.000 We interview Congressman Dan Crenshaw and future Congressman Anthony Sabatini.

00:00:12.000 The question is, what should we do with the FBI?

00:00:15.000 Can they be reformed or should we abolish it and defund it completely?

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00:01:05.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome aboard Jack Posobiec, your guest hosting.

00:01:09.000 Charlie Kirk is on assignment, but we are holding down the fort because we've got so much going on today.

00:01:15.000 We've got so much news breaking.

00:01:18.000 A new Twitter whistleblower has stepped forward, and this might actually change the entire game when it comes to the lawsuit with Elon Musk.

00:01:29.000 We're going to be breaking that down throughout the show.

00:01:32.000 We're also going to be looking at, we're on Verdict Watch, Verdict Watch up in Michigan.

00:01:36.000 We're going to have Julie Kelly on later for American Greatness to talk about this latest case, the FBI and Michigan, this supposed plot against Governor Whitmore. 1.00

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00:01:47.000 We're keeping an eye on it 24-7.

00:01:49.000 But we have to get into, we absolutely have to get into the latest bombshell disclosures out of the FBI, the latest in the fallout of this Mar-a-Lago raid.

00:02:01.000 And in order to do so, I've got John Solomon, who broke the story last night.

00:02:07.000 He's going to be coming on, joining me here live in studio on the Charlie Kirk show to explain everything that's gone through on this.

00:02:15.000 Because you just heard Congressman Crenshaw earlier on CNN, goes on with Jake Tapper.

00:02:20.000 And he went on and said, look, this thing is egregious.

00:02:27.000 It's not something that we normally do as a country.

00:02:31.000 And because of that, you're seeing a huge coalescing of people against the DOJ and then for President Trump.

00:02:39.000 So much is breaking.

00:02:40.000 So much is happening.

00:02:41.000 We've got the new John Solomon report that's come out about the DOJ, the communications between the FBI, the NARA, between the White House counsel's office about executive privilege and essentially the scoop that the Biden White House is not going to invoke executive privilege for President Trump.

00:03:02.000 A huge break in precedent there over these documents that were found at Mar-a-Lago, the documents that President Trump claims he declassified, and then the raid that we all saw.

00:03:12.000 Well, one congressman went on, Republican congressman, went on CNN this weekend, and I caught the clip and people were just going nuts about this.

00:03:21.000 Liberal blue check Twitter was going nuts about this interview with Jake Tapper.

00:03:25.000 And so I wanted to bring on Congressman Dan Crenshaw here on the program, who was in that clip that went toe-to-toe with Tapper on this and said, this is not something we do.

00:03:36.000 Congressman Crenshaw, welcome to the show.

00:03:38.000 Hey, Jack, good to see you.

00:03:40.000 And thanks for having me.

00:03:42.000 So you're somebody who, you know, it's, it's, you, you seem like you can get both sides of the blue check Twitter and both sides of Twitter just going.

00:03:49.000 And this one with They were just raining bombs on you because you had the tenacity and the temerity and the audacity to say that the Mar-a-Lago raid was egregious and it looked egregious.

00:04:03.000 And you, by the way, you said that on Sunday.

00:04:05.000 And I want to give you credit here because you said before we even had the John Solomon report out that it looked like they were trying to comply with these requests.

00:04:16.000 Then we get the John Solomon story last night that has the whole email chain that yes, they were trying to comply.

00:04:22.000 But what they didn't realize was the White House counsel was coming in and they weren't invoking executive privilege and all of these things that the legal team thought they had were not being invoked for the first time in history.

00:04:31.000 Judge Reinhertt himself comes out and says unprecedented.

00:04:35.000 So from my um from where I sit, it looks kind of like you were exactly right when you were talking on Tapper about that.

00:04:41.000 Yeah, well, I'm glad those documents have come out recently because I know PolitiFact was trying to contact our office and dispute this idea.

00:04:50.000 And of course, it's indisputable because look, if they had asked repeatedly that Trump return certain documents, then they would have said so by now, right?

00:04:59.000 They would have used that in the justification for the raid, just in public statements.

00:05:03.000 So I think it was a pretty safe assumption.

00:05:05.000 And then you look at further context, where back in June, look, they carried dozens of boxes out of Mar-a-Law and Go, but with the full cooperation of the Trump team.

00:05:15.000 And look, that's how normally things should be done.

00:05:19.000 All right.

00:05:20.000 Mistakes are made.

00:05:20.000 Staff is backing up dozens of boxes full of documents.

00:05:24.000 You know, if you were Trump and you had a letter from Kim Jong-un or a letter from Barack Obama, which were some of the things that were taken out, you would probably assume that you're allowed to have those.

00:05:34.000 That would seem to me like a personal memo or memento to have from your presidency.

00:05:40.000 So you have to have some element of good faith in dealing with these situations.

00:05:46.000 And if you're going to do an FBI raid and use the Espionage Act as your basis for that, well, you better be able to prove some kind of malicious intent here.

00:05:56.000 That's another big part of the investigation that they're just leaving out.

00:06:00.000 Well, I'm not sure they would publicize it if they had it, but this is an unprecedented event, and we would want transparency on these things.

00:06:08.000 We want answers.

00:06:09.000 You cannot just say, well, it's a legal matter.

00:06:11.000 It's a criminal justice matter.

00:06:13.000 It's not.

00:06:14.000 It's automatically immersed in the political atmosphere just by the nature of it being with Trump and it being a former president and the potential future candidate.

00:06:23.000 And I tell it, here's what I would sum it up as.

00:06:26.000 When the left is mad about this, I'm like, look, just please put the shoe on the other foot for a second and think about the following comparison, a very comparable situation wherein in 20, let's say in 2017, President Trump ordered the FBI to raid Hillary Clinton's home to get servers that he believes have classified information on them.

00:06:46.000 It's almost the exact same situation because former political opponent, potential future political opponent, how would the left react to that?

00:06:54.000 We need to have the same standards by which we react to things in our country.

00:06:59.000 And that was the point I was making on CNN.

00:07:01.000 I don't think you can refute that point.

00:07:03.000 No, I think that's exactly right.

00:07:05.000 And when you're looking at this from that perspective, it's obviously political.

00:07:10.000 And yet here we have, and I believe we have the Newsweek piece had up the poll last week, and the poll is from The Economist YouGov that said more Republicans have a favorable view of Trump after the FBI raid.

00:07:22.000 Rasmussen had the poll that showed independents are starting to look at this raid as if they are, that the FBI is acting sort of as like a personal guard for Biden rather than simply being the FBI that protects our citizens, protects children, protects classified information.

00:07:39.000 Doesn't seem like they're trying to protect that.

00:07:41.000 It seems like they're trying to protect Joe Biden.

00:07:44.000 Yeah, and look, I lay blame at the feet of our political appointees.

00:07:48.000 I think that's when we direct our anger at someone, I think it should be political appointees who are really calling the shots here.

00:07:54.000 Merrick Garland signed off on this.

00:07:56.000 Okay, it's like Kevin McCarthy said, better have your parking spot ready and save all your documents because there's going to be a lot of oversight in the House when we retake the majority on this particular issue and a whole plethora of other issues.

00:08:09.000 And because that's where it happened.

00:08:10.000 The White House says they didn't know about that.

00:08:13.000 I find that impossible to believe.

00:08:15.000 I find it impossible to believe that the White House didn't know about it.

00:08:18.000 This is the kind of, it's such a sensitive matter that it would be a dereliction of duty not to tell the White House.

00:08:24.000 I'm sure they knew.

00:08:25.000 I'm sure they had a heads up at least.

00:08:26.000 And they probably could have squashed it if they wanted to.

00:08:29.000 And they should have because this makes them look bad.

00:08:32.000 Again, the fact that they didn't even ask Trump for these documents ahead of time and just assume that this was some malicious intent here.

00:08:40.000 And I joked about it on the show.

00:08:41.000 I was like, does any of us really think that President Trump is just reading his nuclear secrets every night by his bedside?

00:08:49.000 It's just like what he likes to go to bed to.

00:08:50.000 And it's like, that's his last prize possession.

00:08:52.000 Does any of us really believe that?

00:08:54.000 I really don't think so.

00:08:56.000 You know, it's highly likely this was a mistake made by staffers packing up boxes and it could be easily rectified.

00:09:04.000 And it certainly seems like that.

00:09:05.000 Now, Congressman, you also said, you know, you think that 99% of GOP or Republican voters that necessarily on the train of defund the FBI.

00:09:15.000 But I can understand why people would be, rightfully so, have that righteous outrage and indignation at a response like this.

00:09:22.000 And so sure, you're going to see those responses.

00:09:24.000 That's different than saying, let's just abolish all law enforcement because you don't like the way that, you know, you don't like the way that some criminal, some criminal case went down.

00:09:34.000 So what would your, I guess, advice be or what would your bid be when it comes to what you're talking about here, the congressional oversight?

00:09:41.000 It looks like you'll be in the majority coming through the next Congress.

00:09:44.000 How do you respond to this?

00:09:45.000 And how should conservatives be talking about this from your perspective?

00:09:50.000 I think we should be talking about it the way I say we have to make the arguments.

00:09:53.000 We have to make the arguments correctly.

00:09:56.000 It's unrealistic.

00:09:57.000 And I think when politicians say, we're going to take it to the whole institution, we're going to defund the whole thing.

00:10:01.000 I mean, it's not realistic.

00:10:03.000 And I think it's a little cheap, right?

00:10:05.000 It means that we're not really telling our constituents the truth about what is in the realm of the possible.

00:10:10.000 And I like to just be truthful with people and tell them what's in the realm of the possible.

00:10:15.000 How should we be talking about this so that we continue to win the public debate?

00:10:20.000 And that's what wins us majorities.

00:10:21.000 And that's what eventually wins us the ability to enact change and to enact that oversight.

00:10:26.000 You know, politics is a long, hard slog.

00:10:30.000 And it often feels good to just like whip into a frenzy and say certain things.

00:10:36.000 But in the end, we won't win that way.

00:10:38.000 And I'm into winning.

00:10:39.000 And winning takes a little bit longer than we would like in politics.

00:10:42.000 Again, we got to win elections.

00:10:43.000 We're going to conduct that oversight.

00:10:45.000 And you'll see that change.

00:10:46.000 I think quietly, and I hear this all the time, quietly, there's a lot of FBI agents who are really angry about what they see and the decisions made by their leadership.

00:10:55.000 And that's, I think, where we need to focus and ask for those whistleblowers.

00:10:58.000 We set up those whistleblower pages and like I've done with the military in the past over their woke nonsense.

00:11:05.000 And what that does is gives us the ability to take that to leadership and say, this better change, or you're not going to like the kind of oversight that we conduct and the kind of changes that we have to make from the top.

00:11:16.000 That's how you do it.

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00:12:28.000 Last time we chatted, I remember what did I say?

00:12:32.000 I questioned to make sure that Klaus Schwab was okay with the comments that you were making today.

00:12:37.000 If you had checked with your World Economic Forum handler, remember we were joking about that.

00:12:41.000 But then I went over to Davos.

00:12:43.000 I don't know if you saw this.

00:12:44.000 I went to Davos.

00:12:45.000 I actually got by the World Economic Forum Police.

00:12:49.000 I kid you not for the World Economic Forum Police.

00:12:53.000 Okay.

00:12:54.000 PolitiFacts are getting mad at me for this again because they had a patch that said World Economic Forum Police.

00:12:58.000 And I said, Oh, I think I've been detained by the World Economic Forum Police.

00:13:01.000 But then it says, My whole crew, by the way.

00:13:04.000 And PolitiFact comes out and I say, Okay, here come the journalists.

00:13:07.000 They're going to come out and say, Hey, we can't be detaining somebody just for, you know, I was just shooting the show from the side of the street outside of Davos.

00:13:15.000 And they come out and say, False.

00:13:17.000 Jack Pacific was not detained by the World Economic Forum Police.

00:13:20.000 They were actually Swiss police assigned to the World Economic Forum.

00:13:24.000 So you see, it's completely different.

00:13:25.000 So false.

00:13:26.000 So I just want to-totally different.

00:13:28.000 Put in a word with Klaus about that.

00:13:31.000 You know, if we're going to do the frisk, at least take me out to dinner next time.

00:13:34.000 You know, maybe, you know, maybe do something a little nicer.

00:13:37.000 But man, that was just, that was rough.

00:13:39.000 I bet it was. 0.96

00:13:41.000 Like, there's some crazy people.

00:13:43.000 Should I address that conspiracy about myself since we're talking about it?

00:13:49.000 I mean, you're on the bus roll.

00:13:50.000 You're getting the handlers.

00:13:51.000 You're getting the talking points.

00:13:53.000 Oh, yeah.

00:13:54.000 Manchurian candidate, Manchurian candidate from the World Economic Forum funding.

00:13:59.000 Like basically, they put me on their website three years ago as on a long list.

00:14:04.000 They do like a kind of like a Forbes 30 under 30 thing every year.

00:14:07.000 And they put me on the list because I had just gotten famous after Saturday Night Live.

00:14:11.000 And they're like, look, another young leader.

00:14:13.000 And I'm like, okay.

00:14:14.000 I saw it blow up on the internet.

00:14:16.000 So I asked them to take it down.

00:14:18.000 And it has followed us ever since.

00:14:20.000 I'm sure there's going to be a new conspiracy soon.

00:14:23.000 Maybe it's like Klaus Schwab and Hillary Clinton had an affair back in the 80s and had all these children, these Manchurian candidates that are rising up in the Republican Party.

00:14:32.000 It's not true.

00:14:33.000 I was never part of it.

00:14:35.000 Never interacted with them.

00:14:36.000 But there we go.

00:14:39.000 Correctly, right here, live on the Charlie Kirk show, you're telling us that you are not the illegitimate love child of Klaus Schwab and Hillary Clinton.

00:14:48.000 For the record.

00:14:49.000 I promise you.

00:14:50.000 For the record, that's my statement.

00:14:52.000 What about Justin?

00:14:54.000 Could Justin Trudeau possibly be maybe like an illegitimate half-brother or something?

00:14:58.000 Is that, could we explore that?

00:15:01.000 We could explore it.

00:15:03.000 I think Justin Trudeau might be an alien from a woke planet where the entire language is centered around identity politics and pandering.

00:15:12.000 I think that's where Justin Trudeau's origins come from.

00:15:15.000 And by the way, you do speak Spanish.

00:15:17.000 Maybe, I don't know, the whole Castro thing.

00:15:19.000 I don't know.

00:15:20.000 Oh, God.

00:15:21.000 We could add that one to the mix, I bet.

00:15:22.000 I don't speak Cuban Spanish, though, so you can't.

00:15:24.000 I speak Colombian Spanish.

00:15:26.000 It's a little different.

00:15:27.000 You can tell.

00:15:28.000 No, it doesn't.

00:15:29.000 It doesn't.

00:15:30.000 That's okay.

00:15:31.000 We can fix that in post.

00:15:32.000 But, you know, just a couple of minutes left.

00:15:33.000 And here's what I want to get into because it looks like we're going to have, if everything goes right, a conservative majority, Republican majority in the House coming up next term.

00:15:43.000 You're going to be in there.

00:15:44.000 We're going to have McCarthy more than likely in leadership.

00:15:46.000 We're also going to have people that probably are more on that train of defund the FBI and break this thing open and what do we do with it?

00:15:54.000 So, where do you come between?

00:15:55.000 How do you work with people like that?

00:15:57.000 Where do you actually go so that we can make money as a movement and as a country to get past this kind of stuff?

00:16:03.000 Yeah, look, I mean, even the people who are like, defund the FBI.

00:16:06.000 And then you ask them, wait, really?

00:16:08.000 Like, I'll just abolish the whole thing.

00:16:09.000 They're like, no, why don't you want to hold it accountable?

00:16:11.000 Dan, like, I do want to hold it accountable, but you just said defund the FBI.

00:16:14.000 And so you start talking past each other.

00:16:16.000 And in the end, you're like, wait, do we disagree or do we actually agree?

00:16:19.000 Because we're all on the same page here.

00:16:20.000 But on the right, what tends to happen is these manufactured divisions and these manufactured fights. 0.92

00:16:26.000 And I think that's really silly.

00:16:28.000 Like, we need to get on the same page here.

00:16:29.000 There's going to be some heavy oversight.

00:16:31.000 Jim Jordan will likely be the chairman of judiciary, which has direct oversight over the DOJ and FBI.

00:16:37.000 That's where we're going to fight this battle.

00:16:39.000 And then you have to actually have some hard questions.

00:16:41.000 Okay, so what legislatively needs to be done and passed through that committee so that proper oversight occurs.

00:16:49.000 And there's probably a lot of options for that.

00:16:51.000 Can I get them out the next minute while we're here?

00:16:53.000 No.

00:16:53.000 And they need to be looked into.

00:16:55.000 You need to conduct hearings.

00:16:56.000 You need to ask those questions.

00:16:57.000 You need to hear from whistleblowers in these institutions that are willing to come forward and say, look, this is what we've seen from our leadership is wrong and biased.

00:17:05.000 And in fact, Chuck Grassley, Senator Grassley, has done this report and indeed did find bias and explained us to the FBI director.

00:17:15.000 That's going to happen times 100 on steroids when the House is retaken by Republicans in November.

00:17:22.000 And I think that's what you can expect.

00:17:24.000 Reforming the FBI.

00:17:26.000 Let's work together.

00:17:27.000 I think that's something the conservatives, MAGA, church committee talking about, we can all get down on.

00:17:33.000 Congressman Dan Crenshaw, Texas 2nd District.

00:17:35.000 Thank you so much for coming on, joining us today here on the Charlie Kirk Road.

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00:18:39.000 We are going to have future Congressman Anthony Sabatini joining us.

00:18:45.000 And before we bring him on, I want to run, I believe it's clip 23, the future congressman talking about this very issue on CNN.

00:18:54.000 Clip 23.

00:18:55.000 In Florida, ultra-mega Republican, Florida State Representative Anthony Sabatini.

00:19:00.000 Shoot, if it was up to me, I would totally defund the FBI.

00:19:03.000 He's running for Congress in Florida's 7th district and has been making the rounds on far-right media after writing a tweet saying sever all ties with DOJ immediately.

00:19:14.000 And any FBI agent conducting law enforcement functions outside the purview of our state should be arrested upon sight.

00:19:21.000 Common sense.

00:19:23.000 Because?

00:19:24.000 Well, because what they're doing is unlawful.

00:19:26.000 It's time to actually start protecting the rights of Floridians under the 10th Amendment and push back against a lawless federal government.

00:19:33.000 Wow.

00:19:34.000 Future congressman, tell us what you really think.

00:19:37.000 Well, thanks for having me on, Jack.

00:19:40.000 I think it's common sense.

00:19:41.000 I was just hearing you speak about it a minute ago.

00:19:43.000 10th Amendment.

00:19:44.000 You know, when DOJ and FBI and all these federal law enforcement agencies were created 100 years ago, they were doing so because they were, you know, there was a thought that we needed them to prosecute interstate crimes.

00:19:56.000 Well, I think the best way to go about it is just have interstate compacts.

00:20:00.000 Let Republican states or blue states come up with compacts on how to stop the crimes that are happening among states.

00:20:07.000 We don't need a giant federal apparatus anymore.

00:20:10.000 I mean, the FBI was creating a sort of pre-technological age.

00:20:14.000 And, you know, obviously the whole thing was new.

00:20:16.000 There was a lot of stuff going on 100 years ago where they thought it was a necessity.

00:20:20.000 But I think we've outpaced that.

00:20:21.000 I think we can go back to letting states exercise their own police power.

00:20:25.000 So that's what we need to do at the federal level.

00:20:27.000 And of course, in that interview, I talked about a lot of what we need to do at the state level, which in my eyes is totally cut ties with DOJ, which has become so partisan and so corrupt and so unaccountable that Republican states should just cut ties with them until we can get it at least reformed.

00:20:42.000 Well, and if I remember correctly, part of the history was that with bank robbers, actually, and you're buying slide types.

00:20:48.000 And the idea was that, you know, you rob a bank in one state and then you take the money from there and you unite across states.

00:20:55.000 So how does one state have the jurisdiction to prosecute for a crime that was committed in another state?

00:21:02.000 They fled over.

00:21:03.000 Obviously, other states, you have this issue.

00:21:05.000 And to your point, it seems like that could be done through interstate compacts.

00:21:09.000 It seems like there could be legislation that would allow for this.

00:21:11.000 I mean, it almost sounds like what you're talking about is kind of like how Interpol works in Europe, right?

00:21:17.000 So you do have this overarching agency that's coordinating between the different local agencies.

00:21:23.000 And that would be something.

00:21:24.000 And look, we just had Congressman Crenshaw on before you.

00:21:27.000 And the one thing, and I was busting his shops a little bit and I asked him if he was the illegitimate love child of Claus Robin, Hillary Clinton.

00:21:34.000 He denied it.

00:21:35.000 He denied it, but no.

00:21:37.000 And I brought up Justin Trudeau as well in Castro.

00:21:41.000 And but what he committed to, in all seriousness, was federal reform of the FBI.

00:21:47.000 And I think that the way you're talking about it, the idea of what, because what you're talking about isn't necessarily just abolish law enforcement.

00:21:54.000 What you're saying is empower local law enforcement, state-based law enforcement.

00:22:00.000 And then if there is a federal role, I think it makes more sense to have it, at least in lines with this framework, have that federal role be sort of just a coordinator between the different local and state agencies.

00:22:12.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:22:13.000 That's exactly right.

00:22:15.000 Perfect summary.

00:22:16.000 And that's really what the founding fathers originally imagined: that the states would work together on things.

00:22:21.000 If there was something that affected more than one state, we'd have compacts.

00:22:24.000 We'd have model legislation.

00:22:27.000 Nobody imagined you'd have this omnipotent government with endless amounts of three-letter agencies and alphabet soup that's totally unaccountable to the people.

00:22:36.000 I believe in the rule of law.

00:22:38.000 I believe in order.

00:22:39.000 I believe in the police.

00:22:40.000 But I want accountable police.

00:22:42.000 I want people like my governor, Ron DeSantis, to have control over our police.

00:22:47.000 I don't want some roving law, so-called law enforcement agency that's just unaccountable to no one.

00:22:54.000 Let's be honest, the FBI is not really accountable to Congress.

00:22:58.000 They kind of do their own thing.

00:22:59.000 And they've just grown way, way, way too big and have way too much power.

00:23:04.000 And the initial reaction from sort of the anti-maga wing of the Republican Party was very telling because they kind of laughed at the idea of defunding or cutting down the authority of the FBI, but shows you how far they've come.

00:23:16.000 I mean, this is all common sense, old school conservatism.

00:23:19.000 Go back to states' rights and local control.

00:23:23.000 Well, earlier in the program, I said it quickly, but I want to point out that this is where I come to it on this.

00:23:29.000 You can be pro-police, but not pro-police state, right?

00:23:34.000 There's an obvious difference between this.

00:23:36.000 And I think it's ridiculous when I hear people, and you hear it from various entities, Get rid of all police, no have any police, abolish the entire agency.

00:23:46.000 No, no, no, no, that's what we're talking about.

00:23:47.000 We're saying we just don't want to live like we're in communist China.

00:23:50.000 We don't want the CCP running us even more than they've already infiltrated us.

00:23:53.000 And so, no, we don't want a police state.

00:23:55.000 We have police, sure.

00:23:56.000 We want our laws enforced.

00:23:57.000 But let me ask you, because I know obviously today is your primary day.

00:24:01.000 It does look like, you know, things look good.

00:24:03.000 And that's why we, you know, we said it's future Congressman Sappatini.

00:24:06.000 But let me ask you this because I'm trying to do some work here, Peacemaker Posto.

00:24:11.000 And we had Congressman Crenshaw on.

00:24:13.000 I got him to commit to federal FBI reform.

00:24:16.000 Will you commit to working with Congressman Crenshaw, leadership, and others when it comes to the issue of FBI reform?

00:24:24.000 100%.

00:24:25.000 I think the minimum we do is real reform and cut back on.

00:24:30.000 Well, I mean, start with actually looking at their mission statement and looking at how many crimes they're actually focused on.

00:24:37.000 I mean, how much drug interdiction or human trafficking are they focused on versus partisan sort of silliness with Trump and school board parents at these sorts of meetings?

00:24:47.000 How many resources are going to sort of what pot?

00:24:50.000 That's the minimum.

00:24:51.000 So absolutely.

00:24:52.000 But I would go a step further and say, if we don't do it, I'm going to vote against any budget that continues to fully fund the DOJ at the levels that's being funded now until we see form reform because we got to have reform.

00:25:03.000 We can't just promise reform, keep funding the tyranny, and then never do anything about it.

00:25:07.000 So, but I absolutely agree and I commit that.

00:25:10.000 Well, and I think what you're saying there, obviously, is you got to ratchet up the pressure.

00:25:14.000 You can't just say that we're going to do something, we're going to do something, we're going to do something.

00:25:18.000 You can do something right now, and that's the power of the fur string. 0.77

00:25:20.000 And of course, Congress still has that.

00:25:22.000 And we're seeing, I'm going to talk about later about this raid with President Trump.

00:25:26.000 And that's obviously what predicated all of this discussion is that they're essentially stating that the Biden administration is not working with executive privilege, that we're not going through with these various forms of, you know, and John Solomon basically he's got the email chain.

00:25:42.000 He's got the entire email chain between the FBI, the National Archive, between Trump, between the White House.

00:25:49.000 He's got everything.

00:25:50.000 And so he's going to be coming up.

00:25:52.000 He's actually right over here, believe it or not, right now.

00:25:54.000 I see him working over there.

00:25:56.000 And the idea, though, is it's as if the federal bureaucracy is trying to usurp the Constitution, usurp the presidency, usurp the power of Congress, institute themselves as their own fourth branch of government that was never supposed to be.

00:26:12.000 And Congress, by and large, has abrogated its role in not only oversight, but as you say, funding.

00:26:20.000 And so I think that's something that directly Congress can be done on day one to say, if you want funding for these programs, we're going to have to open this thing up.

00:26:29.000 And I don't know, you know, let me ask your views on this.

00:26:32.000 Would you be for another version of a church committee to open up the entire thing and really dig into not only their operation, but remember, the original church committee was domestic surveillance operation of political 100%, Jack.

00:26:47.000 I think there's two sort of select committees we need to get up and going really quickly.

00:26:51.000 Obviously, we're not going to pass that many policy bills in the Congress with a Democrat-controlled White House and a toss-up Senate.

00:26:59.000 So we should really, really be exercising the two primary functions of the House, which is the power of the purse, spending, and aka defunding things, and also the oversight.

00:27:09.000 And so, yeah, church-style committee from the late 70s that looks at the natural and national security agencies, looks at our domestic law enforcement agencies, and also I would suggest one for the military to review what's happened over our foreign wars over the last 20 years, look at which generals got rich, given bad advice when it came to the war on terror, and really spend two years digging into these things.

00:27:30.000 I mean, that's what Congress is supposed to do, not just sit around and campaign all the time.

00:27:36.000 So, absolutely, I think those are great suggestions, and I'll be pushing for that for sure.

00:27:40.000 You are in a primary battle today.

00:27:42.000 Things are looking good, but let us know what's the latest down there in the district.

00:27:47.000 Are you feeling confident that you have this thing?

00:27:50.000 Well, I will tell you this, Jack.

00:27:51.000 Two weeks ago, we had a seven-point lead, and then all of a sudden, $1.5 million of dark money popped up in the race with all of it trained right on me and a pattern very, very similar to what happened to my good friend Joe Kent in Washington a few weeks ago.

00:28:06.000 So, obviously, the swamp is not happy that I'm in the race.

00:28:10.000 On paper, it's an A-way race.

00:28:11.000 There's really three of us running.

00:28:13.000 Everybody's got a somewhat similar message, but the swamp looked at me and said, okay, this guy is on War Room with Steve Bennett every week.

00:28:20.000 He's endorsed by Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gates.

00:28:23.000 There's just something, we don't want this guy here.

00:28:25.000 So they're coming at me really hard.

00:28:26.000 The good news is their attacks on me have actually helped rise my profile in the race a bit and people have gotten more curious.

00:28:34.000 So we're looking good.

00:28:35.000 It's most recent poll from last week shows it a tie for first place.

00:28:38.000 So I'm tied for first place.

00:28:40.000 And I think we're going to bring it home because we do have the most grassroots energy.

00:28:44.000 And there's a historic downturn in early voting and mail-in voting in Florida.

00:28:49.000 So day of voting, election day voting is an all-time high.

00:28:52.000 And we're seeing it.

00:28:53.000 We're feeling it right now.

00:28:54.000 That's why I'm in the field right now out here working this voting site.

00:28:58.000 And if we can win the most hardcore conservative voters, my voters, over big and get them out here, we win.

00:29:04.000 Well, and I think that's right.

00:29:05.000 And we saw, by the way, we saw this with Carrie Lake when Charlie and I were running the election night in Phoenix because that night we were up till, and now for Charlie, it was midnight.

00:29:16.000 For me, I deployed from the East Coast, so I'm still in East Coast time like three in the morning.

00:29:20.000 They refused to allow the counting of those election day votes.

00:29:24.000 They held them over.

00:29:27.000 And then eventually, finally, at like four in the morning, five in the morning, they started flooding in.

00:29:33.000 And that's where you saw this.

00:29:35.000 So hopefully that your county out there is not doing the same kind of hijinks that Maricopa County was doing.

00:29:41.000 We had Tyler Boyer losing it on the live stream over that.

00:29:44.000 I can't even say in good company there, repeat what Tyler Boyer was saying about this.

00:29:48.000 Hopefully, though, that your votes in Florida, because I love the way Florida does it. 0.97

00:29:54.000 You have the election and then you have the result.

00:29:56.000 How fast do you think it'll be, actually, from when polls close to when you actually get the results from?

00:30:01.000 I think we're looking at two hours, Jack, because early voting and mail-in voting is going to be counted.

00:30:07.000 Actually, I'm sorry, it was counted yesterday.

00:30:09.000 So that's done.

00:30:10.000 That's one-third of the votes done.

00:30:13.000 A lot of the precincts are going to be automatically counted very quickly.

00:30:17.000 And then some of the more rural precincts will take a little bit later, but we should have the answer to everything by nine.

00:30:22.000 Florida is really probably the fastest state in the country.

00:30:25.000 And that's because we saw election fraud and attempts at fraud even before 2020.

00:30:31.000 For those who remember, Rick Scott, our governor at the time, had the deal with a woman named Brenda Snipes who had paper ballots sent out even after the election and stored for weeks afterwards down in Broward and Palm Beach counties.

00:30:43.000 And it was a disaster.

00:30:44.000 So we started ratcheting up our election laws going into 2020.

00:30:48.000 And then, of course, what happened in 2020, we came back again and passed two more election laws, one just a few months ago, that have really quickened and secured our elections even better.

00:30:57.000 I'd say we probably number one or number two best security in the country.

00:31:02.000 The ability to take those type of election laws and federalize them because I want to copy and paste that on every one of these states.

00:31:09.000 Absolutely.

00:31:10.000 I think the federal government can do that.

00:31:12.000 I think we can use the carrot and the stick on that.

00:31:14.000 We can really push and use all our power to try to get states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin to adopt these similar laws.

00:31:21.000 But we can also incentivize it too.

00:31:23.000 Tell them, you know, we'll do things if you just take it, you know, do election security in your states.

00:31:28.000 Here's what Congress will do to help make it happen at no cost.

00:31:32.000 I mean, that's what the liberals and the Dems have done forever is they've basically incentivized Republican states to buy into federal programs.

00:31:39.000 So we can use both carrot and stick to make sure states follow Florida's lead at the federal level.

00:31:44.000 Nationwide election integrity laws.

00:31:47.000 I absolutely love it.

00:31:48.000 Where can people go to follow you, to follow your fight, and then follow, of course, the results as they come in tonight?

00:31:53.000 Sabatini4Congress.com.

00:31:55.000 That's Sabatini4Congress.com.

00:31:57.000 And all social media handles at Anthony Sabatini.

00:32:00.000 Thanks, Chad.

00:32:01.000 I'm Anthony Sabatini.

00:32:02.000 An honor and good luck to you, sir.

00:32:04.000 I believe the next congressman from the district.

00:32:09.000 Thanks so much for listening.

00:32:10.000 We work hard to push the envelope here at the Charlie Kirk Show while Charlie's out on assignment.

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The Charlie Kirk Show - August 23, 2022

Scrap or Salvage? Dan Crenshaw and Anthony Sabatini Sound Off on the FBI

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