The Charlie Kirk Show - July 28, 2022


Senator Rick Scott Lets Charlie Ask Him Anything


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Sen. Rick Scott (R-FL) sits down with Anna Charlie Kirk (D-GA) to discuss Ukraine and the future of the country. Senator Scott has been a long-time member of the Florida Senate and served as Governor of Florida from 2000-2009.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, it's Anna Charlie Kirk show.
00:00:01.000 We sit down with Senator Scott from Florida.
00:00:03.000 We don't agree on everything in this conversation, but I certainly do appreciate somebody that puts together a plan that's willing to say what they believe and then defend it.
00:00:11.000 He came here with no notes and honestly, he said, ask me anything.
00:00:15.000 I want more politicians to do that. 0.98
00:00:17.000 We agree on most everything, honestly, but we certainly disagreed on Ukraine.
00:00:22.000 And I pressed him a little bit on it.
00:00:24.000 I think that spirit of disagreement is what keeps our country strong.
00:00:29.000 Get involved with Turning Point USA as well, tpusa.com.
00:00:33.000 So enjoy this conversation with Senator Rick Scott from Florida.
00:00:37.000 And I'd love your thoughts on it, freedom at charliekirk.com.
00:00:40.000 Enjoy.
00:00:40.000 Charlie, what you've done is incredible here.
00:00:42.000 Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
00:00:44.000 I want you to know we are lucky to have Charlie Kirk.
00:00:47.000 Charlie Kirk's running the White House, folks.
00:00:51.000 I want to thank Charlie.
00:00:52.000 He's an incredible guy.
00:00:53.000 His spirit, his love of this country, he's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organizations ever created, Turning Point USA.
00:01:01.000 We will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries, destroyed lives, and we are going to fight for freedom on campuses across the country.
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00:01:22.000 With us is Senator from the great state of Florida, Senator Rick Scott.
00:01:25.000 Where you are today.
00:01:26.000 That's right.
00:01:27.000 And you have what?
00:01:28.000 Thousands and thousands of young people.
00:01:29.000 Thousands and thousands of young people.
00:01:31.000 And Senator, I don't think you get the credit you deserve of laying the conservative foundation in Florida.
00:01:35.000 You were a great governor before now that you are a senator.
00:01:38.000 And so.
00:01:39.000 And try to be a good senator.
00:01:40.000 You know, you're a wonderful part up there.
00:01:41.000 Yeah, I know.
00:01:42.000 How is it different, by the way, running a state versus being part of a clown car?
00:01:46.000 Well, you know, I built companies, and so I gave myself the title of CEO, right?
00:01:50.000 And no one hired me.
00:01:52.000 And so you get the CEO, you get to run things, and governor, you get to run things.
00:01:56.000 Up there, you don't get to run anything, and it's completely dysfunctional.
00:02:01.000 I mean, here, you know, my eight years as governor, I never talked about party.
00:02:05.000 I never talked about being a Republican.
00:02:07.000 I talked about solving problems, okay?
00:02:09.000 Up in D.C., it's all partisan.
00:02:11.000 It's a, I mean, you know, guys like Chuck Schumer wouldn't even talk to me.
00:02:15.000 I mean, the only thing, the only time he brings up my name is when he attacks me on the student floor.
00:02:19.000 So what we've got to do is we've got to go be problem solvers, right?
00:02:24.000 As a business guy, you don't have a choice of saying, I don't like your politics.
00:02:29.000 You say, so how do we solve the problem for a customer?
00:02:31.000 And that's why I tried to do his governor.
00:02:33.000 I had a ball.
00:02:34.000 What do you think is the root of a lot of that dysfunction?
00:02:39.000 I mean, I think, one, it makes good TV.
00:02:42.000 And two, it's just who we've elected.
00:02:43.000 I think, here's what I think about.
00:02:45.000 I think you've got to have the president, the governor, and the mayors have the biggest pulpits, right?
00:02:51.000 And so you've got to have governors, presidents, and mayors that say, I'm going to focus on issues, not be divisive.
00:03:00.000 And if you look at, look, Biden, he's divisive.
00:03:03.000 You know, he said, remember, he said he was going to be this United or whatever he called himself.
00:03:07.000 He's not at all.
00:03:07.000 He attacks people.
00:03:08.000 He attacks me.
00:03:10.000 I mean, I just put out a plan to say, let's figure out how we rescue this country.
00:03:14.000 And he attacks me.
00:03:15.000 I mean, why would you...
00:03:16.000 Why did he attack you?
00:03:17.000 I'm just curious, what did he say?
00:03:19.000 Oh, I mean, he just said Rick Scott wants to raise everybody's taxes.
00:03:22.000 No, you know what I said?
00:03:23.000 I said, if you're able-bodied, right, you ought to go to work. 0.86
00:03:29.000 Don't be dependent on government.
00:03:31.000 I mean, you shouldn't be in public housing.
00:03:32.000 I lived in public housing growing up.
00:03:34.000 You shouldn't be on food stamps, okay?
00:03:36.000 Unless you're working.
00:03:38.000 So if you, if you, look, if you have a job and you don't get paid enough, I get it.
00:03:42.000 But if you want to sit at home, that's wrong.
00:03:45.000 We're all in this together.
00:03:46.000 It's really, really rich to get an attack from Biden about raising taxes as he has the worst inflation ever, which is a tax on the American people.
00:03:54.000 I'm a little taxed right now.
00:03:55.000 So I want to talk about your plan because I first want to compliment you.
00:03:58.000 You have a plan that actually step one.
00:04:01.000 Yeah, that takes a spine to do because it means you're going to have to defend certain things and disagree on certain things.
00:04:07.000 And to be honest, I don't know if I agree or disagree on the hats thing.
00:04:12.000 Because I didn't agree on every of both ways, I'll be honest, because I could see some people that might have to pay more.
00:04:17.000 And at the same time, I think it is moral to have everyone invested in society.
00:04:21.000 We could talk about that.
00:04:22.000 But I want to compliment you because one of my big complaints against GOP leadership is no one knows what the heck they stand for.
00:04:28.000 So before we go any further, why is it that you not, you haven't been a senator for very long, 2018, right?
00:04:35.000 You come out with this plan.
00:04:37.000 Why hasn't this been done before?
00:04:38.000 Before we get into some of the details.
00:04:39.000 Well, I think I'm the only Fortune 50 CEO in the Senate.
00:04:43.000 And partially, you know, in business, it's what you have to do, you have to write a plan, and then you build a management team.
00:04:50.000 You've probably done that here, right?
00:04:52.000 And a smaller extent.
00:04:53.000 But right, you build a plan, okay?
00:04:56.000 You go get investors, right?
00:04:58.000 And then you build a team around that, right?
00:05:00.000 That's what we should be doing.
00:05:01.000 And then, and so we ought to, if we want to get something done, you got to like, if I say, if I, if I came to you and said, Charlie, Charlie, I want you to invest in me in my race, but I'm not sure what I'm going to do.
00:05:13.000 I'm actually sure, you know, if I want to get anything done, what do you think?
00:05:16.000 But that's what most candidates say, though.
00:05:18.000 And it's remarkable.
00:05:20.000 We shouldn't be doing that.
00:05:21.000 I agree.
00:05:22.000 And then hold us accountable.
00:05:23.000 We should say, this is what we're going to do, and then hold me accountable.
00:05:26.000 When I ran for governor, I said, I won my race by saying, I have a seven-step plan to 700,000 jobs over seven years.
00:05:33.000 Okay.
00:05:33.000 This state, people forget.
00:05:35.000 When I ran in 10 for governor, this state had lost 800,000 jobs in four years.
00:05:40.000 Home prices had dropped in half.
00:05:42.000 1.1 million homes were in foreclosure.
00:05:45.000 They were raising tuition 15% plus inflation.
00:05:48.000 And so people said, oh, gosh, a guy's got a plan to fix things.
00:05:51.000 Maybe I'll elect that guy.
00:05:53.000 And we did.
00:05:54.000 That's a Florida a lot of us don't remember.
00:05:55.000 No.
00:05:56.000 Kind of right now, it's the gold rush Florida where it's just endless boom.
00:05:59.000 But that was in 2010.
00:06:02.000 Wow.
00:06:03.000 So the so we, so I, so as soon as I got elected, I had met Rick Perry, didn't know him, but Rick Perry had been the gold standard for the operation. 0.99
00:06:11.000 So I went, I saw Rick at an event and I said, Rick, I'm going to tell everybody I'm going to kick your butt. 0.98
00:06:16.000 And so he said, oh, good, I'll act like I'm worried. 0.98
00:06:19.000 And so we did press conferences together and all this stuff.
00:06:22.000 And we just, you know, sort of trash-talked each other's state.
00:06:25.000 And we built unbelievable states.
00:06:26.000 We added the private sector in my years had 1.7 million jobs, over 200,000 jobs a year, became number one higher education.
00:06:34.000 By guess what?
00:06:34.000 We had a plan.
00:06:36.000 I said, you're not going to raise tuition, and I'm going to pay you based on whether kids get jobs and how much money they make.
00:06:42.000 What did you think about school?
00:06:44.000 One, I didn't enjoy going to school.
00:06:46.000 I only went to school because they were going to pay me more money.
00:06:48.000 Yes.
00:06:48.000 Well, I mean, I grew up in Illinois, so I certainly didn't enjoy anything about my public school, but it was way too bloated.
00:06:54.000 I was born there, right?
00:06:55.000 I left early.
00:06:55.000 Yeah, well, you were smarter than I was for, well, I was there for about 18, 20 years.
00:06:59.000 So you have this plan.
00:07:00.000 That's actually the first pillar of your plan.
00:07:02.000 Education.
00:07:03.000 You say on your plan's website, rescueamerica.com, our kids will say the Pledge of Allegiance, salute the flag, learn that America is a great country, and choose the school that fits, that best fits them.
00:07:15.000 This is an 80, 90% issue.
00:07:17.000 Right.
00:07:18.000 It's pretty basic.
00:07:19.000 So what could the potential pushback against that be?
00:07:22.000 Well, first off, you know, the government wants to decide what school you go to, right?
00:07:26.000 I mean, first off, you pay the taxes, it's your money as a parent.
00:07:30.000 You give it to government, and then government says, well, no, you have to go to this school.
00:07:33.000 And we're going to teach you that if you're one skin color, you're an oppressor and another skin color, you're oppressed. 0.97
00:07:38.000 And by the way, we're going to teach you that this is a racist country.
00:07:41.000 That's not true.
00:07:43.000 I mean, our founding fathers created the greatest, greatest country.
00:07:47.000 We've had more success in this country than any place in the entire world.
00:07:50.000 And so we ought to learn.
00:07:51.000 This is the greatest country ever.
00:07:52.000 Ever.
00:07:53.000 No, there's nothing, nobody close second.
00:07:56.000 Number two, say the Pledge of Allegiance.
00:07:58.000 You know, I got married really young.
00:07:59.000 I got married at 19, so I already have grandkids.
00:08:01.000 When my four-year-old grandson, we were in the end of it, and they said, oh, we'll give you a sicker if you say the Pledge of Allegiance.
00:08:07.000 I didn't know he knew it.
00:08:08.000 He did.
00:08:10.000 So, I mean, it was, I mean, think about how it makes you feel as a grandparent.
00:08:13.000 That's what people ought to know.
00:08:14.000 They ought to know we're the best country.
00:08:16.000 We believe in this country.
00:08:17.000 We're going to make it better.
00:08:19.000 And so that's, I mean, and you ought to choose as a parent.
00:08:22.000 And so talk about Florida's education model.
00:08:25.000 Because at one point, Florida's education was not the best.
00:08:29.000 And now it's basically the gold standard.
00:08:31.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:08:32.000 And I'm not a fan of Jeb Bush, I'll be very honest.
00:08:34.000 But he started.
00:08:34.000 But no, he deserves credit for it.
00:08:35.000 I say this all the time.
00:08:36.000 It's the best thing the Bush family has done in the last 20 years.
00:08:38.000 Here's what he did right, though.
00:08:40.000 Okay, we would all disagree on exactly how you would do the measurement, but he created a measurement system.
00:08:45.000 When did he do it?
00:08:45.000 Like 2000, 2008?
00:08:46.000 So he was in 12 years before me.
00:08:49.000 All right.
00:08:50.000 So 1998.
00:08:51.000 Wow.
00:08:52.000 Yeah.
00:08:52.000 So he got, yeah, so he got elected in 80s because Chris got elected in 60.
00:08:57.000 He's running again.
00:08:58.000 Oh, yeah.
00:09:00.000 You heard about the Republican, the Democrat, and the Independent that walked into the bar.
00:09:03.000 And it's one guy.
00:09:04.000 He says, hi, Charlie.
00:09:05.000 Exactly.
00:09:06.000 So the Charlie Chris.
00:09:10.000 But no, what he did was he created a measurement system.
00:09:14.000 And then because parents, then parents started looking at which school do I want to go to.
00:09:18.000 So when I became governor, the best school district in the state was St. John's County.
00:09:22.000 It had unbelievable growth of all these young families because they want their kids to go to the best schools.
00:09:27.000 So think about it.
00:09:28.000 It forced our schools to get better.
00:09:30.000 And so then in the higher education, what I did is I paid for results and paid.
00:09:37.000 We had 11 universities.
00:09:39.000 Eight of them were getting no money.
00:09:40.000 It was up to $100 million a year.
00:09:42.000 And it was tied to, do you get a job?
00:09:44.000 How much money do you make?
00:09:45.000 And what's it cost to get a degree?
00:09:47.000 So we stopped the tuition increases.
00:09:48.000 And people said, we're going to focus on where the jobs were.
00:09:51.000 Because when you go to school, that's what you expect.
00:09:54.000 I mean, that's, so it was, it was, um, it was a good job.
00:09:57.000 It was great to be the governor.
00:09:58.000 It was a good job.
00:09:59.000 So you put education first.
00:10:00.000 You should run for governor.
00:10:01.000 I should?
00:10:02.000 Yeah.
00:10:02.000 Oh, I'm not really.
00:10:03.000 Even though I don't understand.
00:10:04.000 And we got a whole slate in Arizona already running.
00:10:08.000 That's quite a race.
00:10:09.000 But you put education first.
00:10:10.000 Tell me why.
00:10:12.000 Is there a hierarchy to the order?
00:10:14.000 Well, I look at my life and how did I get ahead?
00:10:17.000 Okay.
00:10:18.000 Wonderful mom, lives in public housing. 1.00
00:10:20.000 She said, you're going to get ahead because you're going to go get an education and you're going to go to work.
00:10:25.000 And so I think the most important thing you can do for somebody is get them a job, but they got to get an education first.
00:10:30.000 So if you want to build it, if you want to build a country, if you want to build anything, you've got to give people a great foundation.
00:10:35.000 And it's education.
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00:12:52.000 And it is morally wrong when you see what the government schools have done in so many of these inner cities, Chicago, Baltimore.
00:13:00.000 How unfair.
00:13:01.000 New York.
00:13:02.000 That's exactly the right thing.
00:13:03.000 These poor kids, these poor kids that have mom and dad that have ambitions for their kids, just like we all have for our kids, right?
00:13:10.000 And they're stuck in these schools where they don't care whether they learn to read or write.
00:13:15.000 They don't care if they progress.
00:13:17.000 They just automatically send them.
00:13:19.000 They don't have any accountability.
00:13:21.000 And so it's wrong.
00:13:23.000 Look, the parents are working.
00:13:26.000 They don't know.
00:13:27.000 One thing that has happened with COVID, people have learned.
00:13:29.000 That's right.
00:13:29.000 So you should choose your kids' school.
00:13:31.000 The Republican Party, if it leaned into the school choice issue more, would be rewarded politically.
00:13:36.000 Okay, so then colorblind equality.
00:13:37.000 This shouldn't have to even be on your list.
00:13:39.000 Pretty simple, right?
00:13:40.000 But why are we doing this?
00:13:43.000 Why should they separate us by color?
00:13:46.000 Right?
00:13:47.000 You shouldn't ask people.
00:13:48.000 Government should never ask you your skin color, your race, your religion, any of these things.
00:13:52.000 They shouldn't ask you any of that, any of those things.
00:13:54.000 We should judge people based on their character.
00:13:56.000 Yes.
00:13:56.000 Isn't that what Martin Luther King said?
00:13:58.000 Yeah, but this whole new regime that has taken over the kind of civil rights apparatus in the Department of Justice is doing the opposite.
00:14:05.000 It's hyper-focused on race, hyper-focused on gender, hyper-focused on these things.
00:14:10.000 And, you know, so you say colorblind equality, and what I find interesting about it is that the very people that say they're anti-racist are acting remarkably racist in every single one of these programs.
00:14:22.000 Right.
00:14:22.000 And I mean, I would love to not talk about race as much as we do in our country right now.
00:14:27.000 And we're Americans.
00:14:29.000 Yes.
00:14:29.000 Right.
00:14:30.000 We should talk about being Americans and how we want to continue to make this country a better place and create more opportunity.
00:14:37.000 We can't guarantee equality. 0.96
00:14:39.000 Some people might not want to work as hard as somebody else.
00:14:41.000 Right.
00:14:42.000 So, you know, so we've got to say, we're going to create you, we're going to give you the, this is going to be the land of opportunity.
00:14:47.000 If you can go do whatever you want to do.
00:14:48.000 If you want to go be an actor, go be an actor.
00:14:50.000 If you want to run for president, do it.
00:14:52.000 If you want to build a business, do whatever you want to do.
00:14:55.000 And we're not going to decide for you.
00:14:56.000 Yes.
00:14:57.000 I always thought about life this way.
00:14:59.000 Government should get the heck out of my life, right?
00:15:01.000 I love my mom.
00:15:02.000 I hate her to tell me what to do.
00:15:03.000 I don't need government dictating things to me.
00:15:05.000 Don't tell me where I need to go to school.
00:15:07.000 Don't tell me how I need to think.
00:15:08.000 Don't tell me any of those things.
00:15:09.000 Let me lead my life.
00:15:11.000 And allowing people to have the agency to choose and not be discriminated against just based on the color of their skin.
00:15:19.000 And we'll all get better.
00:15:21.000 Yes.
00:15:21.000 Because we'll have success, we'll have failure, and it forces us constantly to get better.
00:15:25.000 Do you feel that most Republicans on Capitol Hill are comfortable talking about this?
00:15:31.000 Because it seems as if some members are just always playing into the left's narrative when it comes to these issues.
00:15:39.000 I think in politics, I think a lot of people don't want to talk about the tough issues.
00:15:45.000 But that's what we get elected to do, right?
00:15:47.000 And we've got to talk about the tough issues.
00:15:50.000 We got to lead.
00:15:52.000 And, you know, not everybody's going to agree with us.
00:15:54.000 And you know what?
00:15:54.000 They could be right.
00:15:55.000 So let's go talk about it and then talk beyond.
00:15:57.000 Well, I mean, for example, we have CRT classes at West Point.
00:16:01.000 We have 6 million man hours in the military that have been dedicated to this stuff.
00:16:06.000 And so now it's at the top levels of our military.
00:16:08.000 Right.
00:16:08.000 It's all, no, it's pervasive.
00:16:11.000 All right.
00:16:11.000 This woke mentality is pervasive.
00:16:14.000 It's in our companies.
00:16:15.000 It's in our military.
00:16:17.000 So our military has one job: be able to be the most lethal force in the world to be able to defend our freedoms.
00:16:24.000 That's their job.
00:16:24.000 Our federal government really has two roles, in my opinion.
00:16:27.000 Make sure you have a military that can defend us and do a good job on commerce and get the leaves and daylights out of our lives.
00:16:33.000 Especially on the federal level, yes.
00:16:35.000 But, you know, government should be as local as you can.
00:16:38.000 Yes.
00:16:39.000 People come to me all the time and say, well, the federal government ought to do this.
00:16:41.000 How did that become a federal issue?
00:16:43.000 I might care about the issue, but that should either be done at the city, the county, or the state.
00:16:48.000 It shouldn't be a federal issue.
00:16:49.000 That's exactly right.
00:16:50.000 And we fall into the trap of thinking that every solution has to come from D.C.
00:16:55.000 It can, but Charlie.
00:16:56.000 I mean, it can.
00:16:57.000 We can't solve all of this.
00:16:58.000 It also creates further radicalization if every state has to live under every other micromanaged elite preference of D.C. Missouri is going to have different preferences on a variety of issues than Manhattan, just by geography and culture and religious preference.
00:17:17.000 And we get to move.
00:17:18.000 That's exactly right.
00:17:19.000 Like I moved to Florida.
00:17:21.000 I was born in Illinois.
00:17:22.000 I grew up in Kansas City.
00:17:23.000 You know, it's cold.
00:17:25.000 I don't like cold.
00:17:25.000 That's right.
00:17:26.000 You're in the right state then.
00:17:27.000 And I don't think it's fair that the taxes are so much higher there.
00:17:31.000 So I moved here.
00:17:32.000 You have the mobility to be able to choose.
00:17:34.000 So safety and crime number three.
00:17:37.000 America is becoming a profoundly dangerous country.
00:17:40.000 We've never seen anything like this.
00:17:41.000 Violent crime is up double digits year over year.
00:17:43.000 So you saw what happened, was it yesterday where the Zeldon got attacked?
00:17:50.000 Assassination attempt.
00:17:51.000 Yeah, was it the day before?
00:17:52.000 With the knife?
00:17:53.000 Yeah, and then the guy is let out.
00:17:55.000 Hours later.
00:17:56.000 Charlie, would you ever have thought if you did that as a kid, okay, on top of your parents wanting to reprimand you, right?
00:18:03.000 Okay.
00:18:04.000 In my generation, they used yardsticks, and that the government would just immediately let you out of jail.
00:18:10.000 I mean, we've got to hold people accountable.
00:18:12.000 I mean, none of us want crime, but if you're going to commit a crime, you need to be held accountable.
00:18:18.000 And so what the Democrats want to do is they're soft on crime.
00:18:23.000 They don't think people should be in jail for stealing.
00:18:25.000 You're stealing.
00:18:27.000 That's somebody else's stuff.
00:18:28.000 Exactly.
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00:19:25.000 Charlie, I went, you know where the Fairmont is, of course.
00:19:29.000 So I went in there just to stop there for a second to use facilities.
00:19:32.000 And I was going to go two blocks away.
00:19:35.000 Okay.
00:19:36.000 And people told me, you should ride in a car.
00:19:38.000 Two blocks?
00:19:39.000 Yes.
00:19:40.000 From Fisherman's Wharf to the Trans-America Building.
00:19:43.000 Yeah.
00:19:43.000 It is, it's unsafe in the middle of the day.
00:19:47.000 Right.
00:19:47.000 And that used to be a beautiful place you'd want to go take a week, take a vacation, walk around.
00:19:52.000 That's a unique gem in Pearl.
00:19:54.000 Walk across the Golden Gate Bridge, all that stuff.
00:19:57.000 You wouldn't do it now.
00:19:58.000 I mean, it's all because it's soft on crime.
00:19:59.000 So when I was governor, what I did was I built a relationship with the, we have, we had 67 counties, we had 66 sheriffs, and all of our police chiefs.
00:20:08.000 And I said, I'm going to do, you tell me what I can do to help you make sure that you can hold people accountable.
00:20:15.000 I don't want crime.
00:20:16.000 How can we stop it?
00:20:17.000 How can we prevent it?
00:20:18.000 Part of it is a good school system.
00:20:20.000 Part of it is have an accountable juvenile justice system, things like that.
00:20:23.000 And so we did it.
00:20:25.000 Making sure people serve their times.
00:20:28.000 We did those things.
00:20:28.000 And guess what?
00:20:29.000 47-year low on our crime rate.
00:20:30.000 And I think it's continued down since I left.
00:20:33.000 Number four is immigration.
00:20:34.000 You say we'll secure our border and finish building the wall and name it after President Donald Trump.
00:20:39.000 I think that one got people really fired up.
00:20:41.000 So illegal immigration is a huge problem, but I do want to ask you about legal immigration, where my personal preference would be that we need to limit legal immigration as well.
00:20:51.000 What's your take on that?
00:20:52.000 So here's what I think.
00:20:53.000 First off, we have to secure a border.
00:20:55.000 And then what we have to do is we have to say, so who do we want?
00:21:00.000 Who do we want to come into our country? 1.00
00:21:01.000 It's our choice.
00:21:02.000 Yes, it is.
00:21:03.000 Not somebody else's choice.
00:21:04.000 And we ought to have a merit-based immigration system that says, okay, so we want to build this industry.
00:21:13.000 So we need these type of people to come in.
00:21:15.000 And by the way, I only want people to come into this country that believe in the American system. 0.51
00:21:20.000 I don't want people to come in and believe in socialism.
00:21:22.000 They want to make us some other type of country.
00:21:26.000 But let's decide how many people we can assimilate.
00:21:31.000 That's the operative word, right?
00:21:32.000 Assimilation. 0.56
00:21:33.000 Yeah, because they need to become part of America, not part of some other country.
00:21:37.000 They're not going to change our country.
00:21:39.000 They're going to become like us.
00:21:40.000 I mean, I like this country.
00:21:42.000 I like the capitalist system.
00:21:44.000 I like our foundation.
00:21:45.000 I like our Constitution.
00:21:46.000 I don't want somebody to come in and say, I don't like your Constitution.
00:21:48.000 I want to change it.
00:21:49.000 Or I want to call you names because that's what they do.
00:21:52.000 And so you look at the squad in the House and what they're doing.
00:21:55.000 I mean, give me a break.
00:21:56.000 I mean, if you don't like this country, move.
00:21:59.000 Get out of here.
00:22:00.000 I mean, go, you know, the Soviet Union probably needs some people right now.
00:22:02.000 I agree.
00:22:03.000 And this is what bothers me.
00:22:04.000 I mean, Elon Omar is a great example.
00:22:06.000 She was accepted by our generosity and then gets elected to Congress to tell us how terrible we are.
00:22:11.000 What do you think would be a fair number of legal immigrants?
00:22:13.000 Because that's really where the debate comes down to, right?
00:22:16.000 Yeah, I think, I don't think anybody's ever done an analysis.
00:22:19.000 I've never seen one, what it would be.
00:22:21.000 But I think what you have to say to yourself is, what would be an amount that would assimilate into our country?
00:22:30.000 And on top of that, I don't believe if you come here as an immigrant, you shouldn't be going on some government program right away.
00:22:36.000 I mean, be part of the system.
00:22:38.000 Help build this country first.
00:22:40.000 So I think we ought to limit what, you know, you shouldn't be coming here to get on some safety net.
00:22:46.000 And our safety nets should be short-term safety nets.
00:22:48.000 They're not permanent safety nets.
00:22:50.000 So I actually believe people ought to work.
00:22:53.000 Yeah, right now we have about 1.3 million green cards I know issued every year.
00:22:58.000 And then we also have the three to four million on the southern border, an extraordinary amount, almost an unsustainable amount.
00:23:06.000 Here's how bad.
00:23:07.000 I'll tell you something that happened last week.
00:23:08.000 So first off, you go to the border, it's open.
00:23:10.000 It's just open, right?
00:23:12.000 Border Patrol try and do their job.
00:23:12.000 It's open.
00:23:14.000 They can't.
00:23:15.000 So they pick you up and you immediately get to go somewhere.
00:23:18.000 So the guy that wants to be reappointed as TSA, whatever, administrator, whatever, he testified last week.
00:23:24.000 So here's, you know, TSA's a joke.
00:23:26.000 Yeah.
00:23:26.000 So you know what they talked about last week?
00:23:30.000 So here's, you know, they can take ICE arrest warrants and use as their ID to get on a commercial flight with you, Charlie.
00:23:38.000 So next time you're flying to the great state of Florida, okay, you have to think about, you know, who's not flying from Arizona, so I'll probably have some guy from Azerbaijan next to him. 0.53
00:23:48.000 So here, so go to the border, here's what happens.
00:23:50.000 People throw their IDs away just before they come across the border because they don't want to know who it is.
00:23:53.000 This is the dump zone.
00:23:54.000 Right.
00:23:55.000 So then Border Patrol takes your picture, does your ID, gives you the arrest warrant, and TSA said, well, that's good enough.
00:24:02.000 You can fly.
00:24:04.000 Jordan, by the way, did you follow what happened with the number of people coming out of Afghanistan?
00:24:08.000 You talk about immigration?
00:24:10.000 You mean the refugees, or do you mean the illegals that are coming through Mexicali to Yuma?
00:24:14.000 The people came after the debacle in Afghanistan.
00:24:18.000 So I'm on Homeland Security, so we're supposed to be doing the investigation.
00:24:24.000 So we were supposed to be investigating.
00:24:26.000 So we said we wanted to know how many people came from Afghanistan, who came.
00:24:30.000 So guess what?
00:24:31.000 You probably know all this.
00:24:32.000 Oh, no, you know why you don't?
00:24:34.000 Because they would only tell us in a classified setting.
00:24:37.000 Are you kidding me?
00:24:38.000 Was it classified?
00:24:39.000 Nothing they told me.
00:24:39.000 So these people that were given refugee status, is that right?
00:24:42.000 So 79,000 people came.
00:24:44.000 I asked it, how'd they come?
00:24:46.000 Well, they were at the airport in Kabul.
00:24:49.000 That's how they picked them.
00:24:50.000 I said, how many Americans out of 79,000?
00:24:52.000 5,000.
00:24:53.000 How many people had special visas?
00:24:55.000 2,000.
00:24:56.000 I said, have you interviewed all the 79,000?
00:24:58.000 Whoa, we didn't have time.
00:25:00.000 Do you know where they are since they came into America?
00:25:02.000 No.
00:25:03.000 Are they legally able to stay here?
00:25:05.000 Yes.
00:25:06.000 Where are they now?
00:25:07.000 We don't know.
00:25:09.000 As soon as you know how they brought them into the bases?
00:25:13.000 They could leave any time they want.
00:25:15.000 They were given an ID and going where they went.
00:25:19.000 Don't you feel comfortable now?
00:25:20.000 No.
00:25:21.000 So, Senator, and so I think you can sympathize.
00:25:24.000 When I say that we need to put a pause on legal immigration, this is why. 1.00
00:25:28.000 And one of my concerns and complaints is there's an oversimplification in Republican circles where they say legal, good, illegal, bad.
00:25:35.000 I mean, that example there, those are legal.
00:25:38.000 Who the heck are these people?
00:25:38.000 Yeah.
00:25:40.000 You know, Charlie, in your business life, in my business life, what you do is they say, what's my purpose?
00:25:44.000 That's what you said.
00:25:44.000 Yeah, that's exactly.
00:25:45.000 To serve the American citizen.
00:25:46.000 Start there first.
00:25:47.000 Yes.
00:25:48.000 Say, what's my purpose?
00:25:48.000 Okay.
00:25:49.000 Then you get to, then you can go over here, right?
00:25:53.000 And our purpose should be to serve our people and strengthen the country.
00:25:56.000 It's to represent the 330 million Americans first and build this country.
00:26:02.000 Look, I love people just like you do.
00:26:03.000 We want to help people.
00:26:06.000 Your heart goes out to people.
00:26:08.000 But you do have an obligation first to represent the people in this country.
00:26:12.000 So I know we're running low on time.
00:26:13.000 I want to go through some of these.
00:26:15.000 I'm only going to mention some of these because we don't have time on it.
00:26:17.000 Growth in the economy, have to get away from socialism.
00:26:21.000 Totally agree.
00:26:22.000 Government reform and debt.
00:26:23.000 Thank you for mentioning the debt.
00:26:24.000 It's ridiculous or how Republicans have kind of become the big deficit in debt party.
00:26:27.000 Charlie, can I bring up something?
00:26:28.000 Please.
00:26:28.000 Have you seen the chips bill?
00:26:31.000 Okay, yeah, microchip bill?
00:26:32.000 Yeah, the semiconductor bill.
00:26:34.000 I haven't really been following the drama by the way.
00:26:36.000 So we're $30 trillion worth of debt.
00:26:38.000 Chuck Schumer puts something on the floor was $52 billion.
00:26:42.000 The next day, it was $250 billion.
00:26:44.000 So you should get in the semiconductor.
00:26:46.000 You should get in the semiconductor business because here's how.
00:26:48.000 And that's Silicon Valley.
00:26:49.000 Yeah, you should get in because they all support us, right?
00:26:52.000 So you should get in there this week because here's how it's going to work.
00:26:55.000 We're going to give a company like Intel $4 billion.
00:26:59.000 So they have to build a plant in America.
00:27:00.000 We're going to give them $4 billion, give them a write-off for another $4 billion, and give them another billion dollar tax break.
00:27:07.000 What do they have to do?
00:27:08.000 Oh, build whatever they want to build that's called semiconductor.
00:27:10.000 And by the way, Charlie, you love this part.
00:27:12.000 You know, it's anti-China bill.
00:27:13.000 So do they have to stop expanding China?
00:27:15.000 No, that would be too much.
00:27:17.000 And do they have to...
00:27:18.000 This is true, Charlie.
00:27:19.000 And by the way, do they have to say they're not going to keep doing business in China when they invade Taiwan?
00:27:24.000 No, of course not.
00:27:25.000 That would be too tough.
00:27:26.000 And so they could have some sort of LGBT center called a microchip system.
00:27:32.000 There's no obligation?
00:27:32.000 Do it everywhere.
00:27:33.000 They could just call it the LGBT microchip. 0.99
00:27:35.000 I'm being facetious, of course, but it would open it up.
00:27:39.000 Oh, do we get any money back?
00:27:41.000 Repatriation?
00:27:43.000 Guaranteed tax revenue?
00:27:44.000 Zero.
00:27:45.000 Yeah, that's a really good example.
00:27:47.000 Because you feel good.
00:27:48.000 I haven't followed the details.
00:27:49.000 No, I don't feel good.
00:27:50.000 You're actually making me angrier.
00:27:52.000 So you talk about the debt and deficit.
00:27:54.000 Fair, fraud-free elections.
00:27:57.000 You're getting into some territory here.
00:27:58.000 The media says you're not allowed to talk about.
00:28:00.000 But our vote should never be diluted.
00:28:03.000 I mean, people died for this, right?
00:28:04.000 And people come to this country because they wanted to live in a free country where they get their voice and their ideas.
00:28:10.000 And so, one, we've got to make sure our elections are fair.
00:28:13.000 You have to have voter ID.
00:28:15.000 You can't have ballot harvesting.
00:28:17.000 And then on top of that, we have to enforce our laws.
00:28:19.000 Yes.
00:28:20.000 So, you know, they tried to steal my election in 18.
00:28:22.000 I went $57,000.
00:28:23.000 Run the snipes in Broward County.
00:28:25.000 That's right.
00:28:26.000 You know, I let her go, and the media agreed with me because I explained what she was doing.
00:28:33.000 And the person we put in there did a great job.
00:28:35.000 You saw the 2020 election worked.
00:28:37.000 It was flawless.
00:28:38.000 So no vote should be diluted.
00:28:40.000 And Florida does a beautiful job of that.
00:28:42.000 You talk about family, gender, life, and science.
00:28:44.000 We got to build families, Charlie.
00:28:45.000 We've got to stop this where we tell people, oh, we're going to give you more government money if you're not married rather than if you're married. 1.00
00:28:50.000 So would you go as far, Senator, to say we should pay people to have children?
00:28:55.000 I mean, I don't know if it's our responsibility, but I think we just don't put people in a position.
00:29:00.000 They're in a worse position if they have kids. 0.99
00:29:02.000 No, I think that's fair.
00:29:02.000 Yes.
00:29:04.000 I mean, I'm all for paying people to have kids, even though I say small government, obviously, and all that.
00:29:09.000 But man, there's nothing more important.
00:29:11.000 We've got to fix our birth rate.
00:29:12.000 It's declining.
00:29:13.000 It's something I struggle with, right?
00:29:14.000 One of my daughters has five boys, so she's doing her part.
00:29:16.000 Yeah, totally.
00:29:17.000 The other has two, so she's a little piker, but hopefully she'll have more. 1.00
00:29:21.000 How many kids do you have?
00:29:23.000 We had two.
00:29:23.000 We didn't do enough.
00:29:24.000 That came up, my debate.
00:29:25.000 Somebody said, do you have any regrets about a debate in 2010?
00:29:28.000 My opponent said, of course not.
00:29:29.000 I said, yeah, if I didn't know I was going to be broke, we'd had more kids.
00:29:32.000 Oh, that's so funny.
00:29:33.000 You say here, men are men and women are women, and unborn babies are babies. 0.93
00:29:37.000 We believe in science.
00:29:38.000 So you believe the Republican Party should be able to answer the question, what is a woman?
00:29:42.000 Basically.
00:29:42.000 Yeah, that's not.
00:29:43.000 Were you on that committee with Senator Holly?
00:29:45.000 That was one of the most extraordinary exchanges I've ever seen.
00:29:47.000 Yeah.
00:29:47.000 I think that stuff comes up through the judiciary a lot.
00:29:50.000 Well, that's the dramatic one.
00:29:50.000 Yeah.
00:29:52.000 So you talk about religious liberty and big tech, America first.
00:29:55.000 So I do want to ask you about this one, Senator.
00:29:57.000 You say, we are Americans, not globalists.
00:30:00.000 So I don't know if we're going to agree on this.
00:30:01.000 And I think you said publicly and also privately, this is a tough vote and a tough situation.
00:30:06.000 So putting America first, I struggle to see how and why sending $56 billion to Ukraine puts our country first.
00:30:13.000 Yeah, I can understand that completely.
00:30:15.000 Here's how I looked at it.
00:30:17.000 I mean, I worry about money, right?
00:30:20.000 And so that part of me says, oh, gosh, it's a lot of money, right?
00:30:23.000 And the other part of me says that Ukraine's willing to defend their own freedom, just like Israel.
00:30:29.000 I admire Israel.
00:30:30.000 We do support them financially, but they don't want men and women on their soil, American men and women on their soil to defend them.
00:30:35.000 The Ukrainians are in the same position.
00:30:37.000 They're willing to defend their freedom.
00:30:38.000 And if we don't stop Russia there, then if they get to Poland, we're in it. 0.98
00:30:44.000 If Russia decides to go to Poland, then our men and women will be by treaty.
00:30:49.000 And they invade Poland.
00:30:50.000 Yeah, if they invade Poland, then we're going to be at war.
00:30:50.000 I'm sorry.
00:30:53.000 But they're already bordering Poland.
00:30:56.000 Charlie, I can.
00:30:57.000 Because they have a million people in a military base in Kalingrad Oblast or whatever they call it.
00:31:02.000 Well, and then whether these are good treaties or bad treaties, but they're right next to Lithuania, too, 3 million people.
00:31:10.000 So that was the way I looked at it.
00:31:13.000 The way I looked at it was, right, it's a lot of money.
00:31:17.000 And are we going to be better off to have spent that money to stop Russia there? 0.93
00:31:22.000 Are we going to be in a position that they're going to come into or invade Poland and we'll be in the third? 0.57
00:31:27.000 I appreciate how you're saying it's right or wrong.
00:31:29.000 These are tough decisions, but do you think it's actually working?
00:31:36.000 The briefings I get, they're doing well.
00:31:41.000 We have not given them the resources to be able to push Russia back. 0.95
00:31:45.000 So here's what I believe.
00:31:47.000 If we're going to do this, we do it to win.
00:31:50.000 We don't do it for a draw.
00:31:51.000 We do it to make sure Ukraine wins. 0.98
00:31:55.000 Because otherwise, we'll be doing this.
00:31:57.000 They'll be coming back for another $40 billion at some point because we'll be doing this for, just like Afghanistan, we'll do it forever. 0.99
00:32:04.000 And we can't.
00:32:05.000 And it's not right to the American taxpayer.
00:32:08.000 And so we should be given the weapons that they can win.
00:32:12.000 They have the will to win.
00:32:14.000 I couldn't tell you, I know what's going to happen.
00:32:16.000 Yeah.
00:32:16.000 So what do you think would be too much money?
00:32:20.000 Well, you'd hope not to have to do anymore.
00:32:22.000 You'd hope that you'd hope with the, I mean, it's a lot of money, right?
00:32:25.000 But that's the GDP of North Dakota we've sent over there.
00:32:28.000 And we don't even kind of know where the weapons went.
00:32:30.000 Right.
00:32:32.000 I think, well, first of all, we tried, and they blocked that.
00:32:34.000 I know.
00:32:35.000 Rand had the additional inspector general.
00:32:40.000 But Charlie, don't worry.
00:32:41.000 I completely understand.
00:32:42.000 No, I know.
00:32:42.000 And I want to thank you for your willingness to talk about it.
00:32:46.000 So anyway, in closing, it's rescueamerica.com.
00:32:49.000 You have this plan.
00:32:50.000 We got to run on a plan, right?
00:32:52.000 Right.
00:32:52.000 So what are we going to do?
00:32:53.000 Why govern?
00:32:54.000 Well, and also, and this is where I tell Republicans and lawmakers, if you're going to have disagreement, then let's have spirited discussion about it, right?
00:33:03.000 And it's okay.
00:33:05.000 But let's fight over something.
00:33:06.000 Yes.
00:33:07.000 I mean, I have distractions, right?
00:33:09.000 I tell people, you have to agree with my plan.
00:33:11.000 What's yours?
00:33:12.000 Okay?
00:33:13.000 So, because I admire what Newt Gingrich did.
00:33:15.000 One, they ran on something, and they did almost everything.
00:33:19.000 The only thing they didn't get done was term limits.
00:33:20.000 I think we ought to have term limits for politicians and for bureaucrats.
00:33:24.000 I totally agree.
00:33:25.000 I mean, these people are running our, they act like they own our government.
00:33:30.000 And as someone who's now been in D.C., are you seeing at least a little bit of a sea change of the citizens that are starting to get more involved?
00:33:41.000 Oh, I think I'm optimistic.
00:33:44.000 I'm optimistic.
00:33:45.000 I think, one, we're going to have a good November.
00:33:47.000 I mean, here's the deal.
00:33:48.000 We have good candidates.
00:33:49.000 The momentum's on our side.
00:33:51.000 We have to raise our money.
00:33:52.000 If we do, we have a chance to get the majority in the House and the Senate.
00:33:55.000 Then we have to govern and we have to stand for something and force it.
00:33:59.000 Pass stuff and make Biden veto if he's not going to do it and put ourselves in a position that we get a Republican president in 24.
00:34:04.000 We actually change this country and we have to have dramatic change.
00:34:07.000 We can't have this incremental change.
00:34:09.000 It's got to be pretty dramatic.
00:34:10.000 So yeah, I'm optimistic.
00:34:11.000 You go around the country, people are excited.
00:34:13.000 Look at what you're doing.
00:34:14.000 I mean, what do you have?
00:34:15.000 5,000 students here.
00:34:16.000 Yeah, 5,000.
00:34:18.000 I mean, think about that.
00:34:19.000 Think about it.
00:34:20.000 10 years ago, could you have gotten 5,000 students to come to something?
00:34:23.000 I didn't have $5,000 in the Turning Point Bank account.
00:34:26.000 Only in America.
00:34:28.000 And what you're doing is you're exciting people and you're showing them a path to success.
00:34:35.000 Because that's what you have.
00:34:36.000 I mean, think about when you're a kid, you don't know how am I going to get anywhere.
00:34:38.000 So if somebody shows you a path somehow, you can read a book, somebody have a mentor, whatever you do, then you can be excited about something.
00:34:45.000 That's what you're doing here.
00:34:46.000 That's right.
00:34:47.000 There's a 12th point here that I want to mention on your, you say, cutting taxes and then America first.
00:34:52.000 And then I didn't want to talk about this one super quick.
00:34:53.000 I'm sorry.
00:34:54.000 It's number 10.
00:34:54.000 Religious liberty and big tech.
00:34:57.000 The Republican Party sometimes is split on big tech.
00:35:00.000 Is it time to maybe use state power to go after these big companies?
00:35:02.000 I think we got to hold them accountable.
00:35:05.000 I mean, they clearly are censoring Republicans.
00:35:08.000 They're making it difficult for us to raise money.
00:35:11.000 I don't know.
00:35:12.000 I don't get it.
00:35:13.000 Shouldn't they want a capitalistic system? 0.97
00:35:15.000 They've done well with it, right?
00:35:16.000 They've gotten to become billionaires out of it.
00:35:18.000 And then they want to attack what we believe in.
00:35:20.000 That doesn't make any sense.
00:35:21.000 Well, you opened up my eyes on this chip thing because those are the same companies that they're all part of the censorship regime and they're all kind of our buddy-buddy.
00:35:32.000 They all kind of operate.
00:35:33.000 I didn't think about it that way.
00:35:34.000 We shouldn't be giving money to companies that hate us and then also do business with the CCP, which is the final thing.
00:35:41.000 There's a lot of anxiety right now about the CCP buying farmland across America.
00:35:45.000 Do you think that should be illegal?
00:35:47.000 Yes.
00:35:48.000 I don't believe that our adversaries should be able to buy anything in America.
00:35:54.000 Oh, I love that.
00:35:55.000 They shouldn't be able to buy anything.
00:35:57.000 Why would you let your, would you, you know, if you were in a business, right, would you let your adversary, you know, lease space from you?
00:36:05.000 Of course not.
00:36:06.000 To compete with you, they're buying. 0.99
00:36:08.000 They want to kill us. 0.98
00:36:09.000 You know this. 0.96
00:36:09.000 They're buying Air Force bases. 0.96
00:36:11.000 We know what they're doing.
00:36:12.000 Right.
00:36:12.000 And we're letting it happen.
00:36:13.000 Senator Scott, we're out of time.
00:36:14.000 You have to speak to our students.
00:36:16.000 Yeah, this will be fun.
00:36:16.000 Thanks for the invitation.
00:36:17.000 Thank you, and thank you for putting forward a plan with clarity.
00:36:20.000 And you could just smile and say this.
00:36:23.000 You'd be a great leader one day.
00:36:25.000 Thank you.
00:36:25.000 It'd be very nice.
00:36:26.000 Congratulations on what you're doing.
00:36:28.000 By the way, what you're doing changes the country.
00:36:31.000 Thank you.
00:36:31.000 And so thanks for being here.
00:36:32.000 Appreciate it.
00:36:33.000 Thanks.
00:36:36.000 Thank you so much for listening, everybody.
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