00:00:00.000Hey everybody, Kevin Tinter joins the program talking about how to live a better life, break free of depression, anxiety, the heaviness this holiday or Christmas season.
00:00:09.000It's a great hour and check out his book.
00:00:13.000We talk about it throughout the episode.
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00:02:10.000Tell us about your book, Lost the Discuss.
00:02:12.000Yeah, thank you so much for having me.
00:02:14.000So this book is, like the subtitle says, you know, some disciplines that if you embrace, they will help you build a great love, a great life.
00:02:25.000And when I'm talking about a great life, it's not just one that you enjoy from a selfish standpoint.
00:02:32.000I have a saying, it's about being able to do what you want, when you want, with whom you want, and as a Christian, from a kingdom perspective.
00:02:44.000So yes, it's great to be able to take vacations that you want to live in a beautiful state like Arizona, where I'm blessed to live.
00:02:52.000But it's also important to have that kingdom perspective so that it's not all about selfishness.
00:02:57.000Because there's a lot of wealthy people, especially in this country, but they're only concerned with, you know, promoting their own agenda, whatever that looks like.
00:03:06.000And for me, from a biblical perspective, I think the American dream is about living a great life, but doing it from that kingdom perspective so that you can enhance the lives of others along the way.
00:03:30.000So the first discipline that I address in this book has to do with your health.
00:03:35.000So it's called the idea is get your body on mission.
00:03:41.000And that is the name of chapter three.
00:03:43.000And for me, my turnaround in life really started when kind of through a fluke, I was working as a police officer in the suburbs of Portland, Oregon.
00:03:53.000My shift sergeant decided to throw out a biggest loser type of challenge back in March of 2011.
00:04:03.000I'd had back surgery and I was kind of your typical middle-aged American male with three kids at home, working tons of overtime and surviving, but definitely not thriving.
00:04:17.000And what I found is that getting healthy was the catalyst that really shifted everything else for me.
00:04:26.000And Charlie, I love the fact I hear you talking a lot about this health journey you've been on and really just talking about the importance of being physically fit.
00:04:35.000And I think it's something that's sorely missing in America.
00:04:40.000I think it's something that's sorely missing from American churches.
00:04:44.000You know, we will talk about pornography.
00:04:46.000We'll talk about all the sexual sins that are out there.
00:04:49.000We'll talk about all kinds of other things.
00:04:52.000But what we aren't afraid to talk or what we are afraid to talk about for the most part is the sin of gluttony and the sin of not treating your body like the temple of the Holy Spirit, like the scriptures say that it is.
00:05:05.000So, and this isn't about becoming making fitness your idol.
00:05:10.000That's not at all what it's about, but it's understanding that every single thing that we do in life, whether it's your career, whether it's your involvement in politics or your community, whether it's being a parent or a spouse, everything that we do is enhanced when we are healthier.
00:05:30.000And so there's really no reason, especially in this country, to not be healthy, to eat healthy and to be active.
00:05:38.000And I think that's something that's holding most Americans back from really thriving in life and living a life of impact.
00:05:45.000And so talk about some of the disciplines within fitness that you think are necessary.
00:05:52.000And I mean, it takes about 21 days to form a habit.
00:05:56.000You have to be intentional of if you start habit stacking, that's what really successful people do because you don't even start to, you don't even think about it, you just do it.
00:06:07.000Largely people habit stack bad things, sitting at home and watching TV when they get home from work, eating processed carbohydrates.
00:06:15.000What are some of the specific disciplines that you have both in your personal life, your business, and the book you talk about to improve your body because your physiology largely impacts how you feel?
00:06:29.000Yeah, so specifically with regards to health, I mean, there's no doubt about it.
00:06:34.000We've, I think, all heard the cliche that weight loss is 80% your diet and 20% exercise.
00:06:42.000And in my personal experience as a health coach working with thousands of clients, I would probably say that, and this is just anecdotal, but it's probably more 90% diet and 10% exercise.
00:06:54.000And the reality is most Americans have a horrible diet.
00:06:58.000So the first thing is just getting your diet under control.
00:07:02.000And there's a lot of different ways to eat healthy.
00:07:04.000You know, some people go more carnivore, some people choose vegetarian.
00:07:08.000You know, I'm not an expert in any of those.
00:07:10.000I think that there's some ways that work better for different people.
00:07:15.000Bottom line is most Americans have a horrible habit or a horrible diet and they have a lot of unhealthy habits.
00:07:20.000Like you talked about processed food, fast food, an addiction to sugar and to coffee and caffeine and things like that.
00:07:28.000And the first thing is we've got to clean up our diet.
00:07:30.000Now, there's something that I coined, the trinity of uncommon freedom.
00:07:35.000And I don't mean this to be sacrilegious, but it's kind of if you think about every, all the disciplines that I talk about in the book, that this trinity helps you thrive in every discipline.
00:07:47.000And the first trinity is to always row upstream.
00:07:50.000So I use this analogy of everything we want is upstream.
00:07:55.000Downstream is what happens when you just, you know, if for those who live in Arizona, you go to the Salt River, you jump in an inner tube, you go downstream.
00:08:48.000So the idea behind get to one is the concept of wholeness, right?
00:08:53.000I'm not a mathematician, but if you take a negative number and you multiply it or you continue to divide it, you're still going to have a negative number.
00:09:05.000So the concept of getting to one is the concept of wholeness.
00:13:00.000That's why the concept of growing upstream versus just floating downstream, that's where everything that we want in the long run for most people, if you want to be successful and live a thriving life, is important.
00:13:57.000I'm really passionate about helping men step up to the plate, be strong marriage, strong husbands to their wives, and strong fathers to their children.
00:14:05.000And it's easy for us to not prioritize those things, but it takes discipline for us to prioritize the things that are most important, where we're not going to experience that immediate gratification, but we're going to see the long-term benefit and really be able to invest in our future and the future of others.
00:14:26.000So I love that what Jocko says, discipline is freedom.
00:14:30.000And the question is, you know, do people want to be free?
00:14:32.000You have to desire freedom and to put those disciplines into action.
00:14:37.000The seven disciplines of uncommon freedom: design a life that aligns with your dreams and values.
00:15:28.000And going through some profiles and different things to really learn about myself, I identified that freedom is actually my number one value.
00:15:36.000And it's what actually created a lot of dissonance for me in those career fields because I was missing out on spending holidays with my family on a regular basis.
00:15:45.000I was not a present father because I was having to work so much overtime and the schedule was very challenging.
00:15:50.000So I think it's important for every person to partner with a coach, a mentor, counselor, an advisor, someone that can help them figure out what their core values are, what are the things that matter most to them, so that you can build the life around what matters most.
00:16:04.000The last chapter in this book is called Lifestyle Design.
00:16:08.000And John Maxwell, one of my favorite mentors, has a saying: most people accept the life they were given.
00:16:13.000Very few choose to lead the life that they want.
00:16:17.000And so many Americans today, I mean, this is the narrative forced by mainstream media, is that, you know, you're a victim of whatever your circumstances are.
00:16:24.000It might be your race, it might be where you were born, things like that.
00:16:30.000And the reality is, it's why immigrants come to America thrive, they realize that America is full of opportunity.
00:16:38.000And it's why probably my favorite chapter in the entire book is talking about being intentional about designing the life that you want.
00:16:47.000And you have to incorporate your values into that.
00:16:50.000For my wife and I, we're very passionate about the pro-life movement, saving babies, protecting their mothers.
00:16:56.000And so we give a significant portion of our income to pro-life causes.
00:17:01.000And it's one of the things that drives us to continue to earn at a high level so that we can continue to invest in things that matter to us.
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00:19:20.000So, Kevin, what do you let's talk about the wealth side of it?
00:19:23.000Americans are more in debt than ever before.
00:19:26.000There's a lot of excuses, and some of the excuses are actually okay.
00:19:29.000I mean, some are legit, some are not legit.
00:19:32.000For example, if you're 26 years old and you were told to go get a piece of paper at college and it means nothing and you can't buy a home and inflation is crushing you, I have some compassion.
00:19:43.000If you're living in an apartment that you can't afford and maxing out your credit cards and going out drinking on Friday and Saturday on Sunday night, talk about how debt is the slavery of the free and how in this very difficult economy with high inflation, people can get back control of an out-of-control financial situation.
00:20:01.000Yeah, Charlie, I couldn't agree with you more.
00:20:04.000The lie of the value of a diploma is really a horrible lie that we've been force feeding our children.
00:20:14.000I mean, even for me, I'm 46 years old, so I went to school in the college in the 90s.
00:20:20.000And honestly, my degree did nothing but allow me to become a Marine Corps officer.
00:20:27.000I remember almost nothing from all of my college days.
00:20:31.000I actually got married halfway through college.
00:20:33.000I'm grateful for that because it really motivated my wife and I to get done with college as quickly as possible.
00:20:44.000I think we had about $28,000 in school loans.
00:20:47.000We committed to allocating 100% of her salary to paying off those loans so that I think within one year of us having to make payments, we had her loans paid off.
00:20:57.000And we're incredibly grateful for that.
00:20:59.000I'm discouraging my kids from attending college.
00:21:01.000You know, if they want to be a doctor or attorney, you know, I understand it's necessary, but for the most part, I don't see the value there.
00:21:11.000Schools, especially higher education institutions, even the supposed Christian ones, are really, they're making socialists and communists out of our kids at an alarming rate.
00:21:21.000There is no excuse if you live in this country.
00:21:24.000I have a number of friends that now have American citizenship.
00:21:28.000They came here illegally, which I understand why someone would do it.
00:21:33.000If I lived in Mexico, I would do everything I could to come here and bring my family with me.
00:21:39.000There is no excuse, though, because you just live within your means and you don't have to have a brand new car.
00:21:48.000My wife and I were the couple who had one 27-inch TV.
00:21:53.000We got married in 1998 and we did not have a big screen TV until about 2010, I think it was.
00:22:01.000And so many Americans, and especially the young kids, I mean, I am fighting this materialism.
00:22:06.000The pop culture is all about materialism.
00:22:10.000And I am constantly battling this, trying to properly train my kids and teach them the value of a dollar and the importance of living within their means.
00:22:20.000And in America, it's honestly, it's a very simple formula.
00:22:33.000If you can't control credit cards, I still use a credit card, but I pay it off every single month.
00:22:38.000If you don't have the discipline to control that, go to cash and stop going further and further into debt.
00:22:45.000You know, much of our young generation that's in college and graduating from college, they want the standard of living that their parents and grandparents had, but they don't realize that it took their parents 20, 30, 40 years to get to where they're at.
00:23:00.000And so that's something that I'm constantly trying to, you know, ingrain in my children is you're living a very great life now, and we expect you to work, but you cannot expect to have the same standard of living when you graduate high school or potentially go to college that you have right now living in our house.
00:23:20.000It took us decades of hard work to do that.
00:23:24.000The other thing is really for people to start thinking from a more entrepreneurial spirit.
00:23:29.000I think the concept of a side hustle and owning a business is lost.
00:23:35.000Our government really does not promote entrepreneurship.
00:23:38.000They want a bunch of sheep that pay taxes that come out of their paychecks so they aren't aware of what they're paying.
00:23:46.000I've got a 16-year-old son, and I just helped him file his taxes within the last couple of months.
00:23:52.000He was on an extension and he didn't have proper withholdings and he had to write a check to the government.
00:24:01.000The more my teenage son works, the more conservative he becomes because I go over his pay stub with him and I show him this is what you're giving to the government, like it or not.
00:24:11.000And I understand we need to pay taxes.
00:24:13.000We live in the greatest country in the world, but I think the amount of taxes we're paying is way out of control.
00:24:19.000So, helping today's youth, especially, realize that it's not just about being an employee, it's about having that entrepreneurial spirit and finding some type of side hustle because there's a lot of benefits from a tax standpoint if you own a business.
00:24:33.000It doesn't have to be your sole source of income, but it can be something that you can leverage.
00:24:37.000You know, Robert Kiyosaki, the genius behind Rich Dad Poor Dad, he talks about that really one of the only ways to build wealth is to have the advantages of owning a business.
00:24:47.000What are some of the most frustrating financial patterns, yet fixable ones you see?
00:24:53.000Where you in your coaching and your experience, you see self-destructive behavior that can be fixed in a moment.
00:25:01.000It doesn't take Harvard business school, it doesn't take any sort of mastery, it's simply a decision.
00:25:11.000Number two is when people raise their spending to every increase in income that they get.
00:25:21.000One of the most important things that every one of us can do is to save up so that we have an emergency fund.
00:25:28.000I mean, this is talked about by Dave Ramsey and pretty much all the financial pundits that are out there, but very few people have $1,000 in the bank, much less a legitimate emergency fund of three to six months.
00:25:43.000And then what I have seen happen is: let's say someone's making $60,000 a year.
00:25:49.000And so, let's see, doing some quick math, that's $5,000 a month.
00:25:53.000So, they might have a $15,000 emergency fund, you know, three months based on $60,000.
00:25:58.000Well, over time, their income goes up to 100, let's call it $120,000 to make the math very simple.
00:26:04.000Well, they don't increase their emergency fund to $30,000.
00:26:41.000I realize you might be able to make more money if you were to invest it.
00:26:44.000You know, maybe you're making 3% or 5% in some type of money market account, and you could theoretically be making 10% if it was invested.
00:26:53.000But if you lose that money, it's no longer an emergency fund.
00:26:57.000And people assume that things will stay the same or better.
00:27:01.000And what we know is that doesn't happen.
00:27:03.000So I think the lack of an emergency fund is a huge problem.
00:27:07.000And once again, it just fed by this instinct gratification culture that we live in.
00:27:13.000And honestly, it's something that we as parents, we have a moral obligation to teach our children the discipline of delayed gratification.
00:27:23.000And when you don't teach children delayed gratification, then young adults don't naturally develop it on their own.
00:27:32.000And then you have grown adults that are in their 30s, 40s, and beyond, and they still don't practice delayed gratification.
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00:27:46.000When people tell you, but I don't have the money, I'm barely making ends meet.
00:27:51.000I'm sure when you start to go through budgets with people, you start to see a fair amount of expenditures that are unnecessary.
00:27:59.000For example, double and triple streaming subscriptions, going out unnecessarily to eat, spending money on diminishing returns and expenses, buying new cars instead of used cars.
00:28:14.000The lack of financial literacy in this country is remarkable.
00:28:18.000And it is being rich starts with a mindset more than anything else.
00:28:27.000I mean, the reality is that if you don't have good habits, if you don't have financial discipline and your income goes up, you're just going to be broke at a higher level.
00:28:37.000And the reality is the mistakes and the ability to recover is a lot harder when you start making six-figure mistakes or seven-figure mistakes than when you're making, you know, five-figure mistakes, right?
00:28:52.000So if you're making $50,000 a year, you're only going to get loans so much money.
00:28:58.000And at some point, you're going to run out of credit and you're going to realize, okay, I have to get to work to pay this off.
00:29:05.000Well, the worst, you know, as deep as the hole as you're going to dig might be a couple hundred thousand dollars.
00:29:12.000Well, how many times have we heard about pro athletes that were making seven, maybe eight figures?
00:29:19.000And because they lacked the discipline and the habits financially, they created a hole that is maybe eight or nine figures deep.
00:29:29.000And honestly, I can understand why some people end up committing suicide.
00:29:34.000I mean, obviously they lack a deeper meaning in life.
00:29:37.000But when you think about digging a hole that deep, the amount of despair and potentially embarrassment that that creates is really tragic.
00:29:46.000When I used to be a police officer, I would stop cars and, you know, have a conversation with people.
00:29:52.000And many times, you know, they didn't have insurance.
00:29:55.000And I was would, you know, have a conversation with people.
00:29:58.000Well, I'm headed to 7-Eleven to get a 12-pack of beer and a carton of cigarettes.
00:30:03.000And they, oh, by the way, they happen to have the newest Apple iPhone that was out there.
00:30:08.000And I was paying for my flip phone because that's what I could afford back then.
00:30:12.000And so the reality is everyone gets what they value, whatever they prioritize.
00:30:18.000So you can afford to save, just most people choose not to.
00:30:23.000And that's really what it boils down to is it's just like with your health, right?
00:30:28.000If you prioritize your health, you'll make the decisions that will support that.
00:30:33.000If you prioritize your marriage, you'll make decisions that prioritize your spouse over other things, hobbies, and things like that.
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00:30:45.000The holidays and big family feasts are upon us.
00:30:49.000But in DC, it seems as if there's no bigger turkey than Senate Bill 1339.
00:30:54.000S1339 is Bernie's latest attempt to sneak in a backdoor takeover of more of our healthcare.
00:31:01.000He falsely claims it will lower prescription drug prices.
00:31:06.000But S1339 will actually do just the opposite.
00:31:10.000It'll handcuff pharmacy benefit managers who are currently saving millions of Americans an average of $1,040 a year.
00:31:19.000Bernie, the trickster, the Marxist, is hoping that thousands of your fellow Americans are already going to lowermydrugprices.com to stand up against S1339.
00:31:30.000That you'll be too busy making holiday plans or getting ready for a year-end vacation to stop him from a power grab on your health care.
00:31:38.000I'm urging you to keep up the pressure against the passage of S1339 by going to lowermydrugprices.com.
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00:32:22.000George Soros, you spent a lot of time talking about him.
00:32:25.000And he obviously is a force for evil in this world and kind of the opponent of virtually everything I stand for.
00:32:35.000And my wife and I, one of the chapters in the book is Honor the King, has to do with really learning how to be a good steward of what God has given us.
00:32:45.000And a huge part of that means tithing.
00:32:48.000And most people, I highly encourage step one is to start tithing at 10%.
00:32:53.000My wife and I have made some commitments.
00:32:55.000We're currently, our tithing level puts us, we're living on about 50% of our gross revenue.
00:33:01.000So we're tithing close to 50% of everything that we bring in.
00:33:05.000And I don't share that to brag, but I share that because we've enjoyed the blessings and really have started to realize that the whole concept of it's more blessed to give than to receive is actually true.
00:33:17.000So even though I would be happy becoming a billionaire like George Soros, my goal isn't necessarily to be the guy who's individually giving that much, because I think that if we can inspire a culture of giving among conservatives and among Christians, that collectively we can continue to counteract the evil that the far left is doing in this country and in this world.
00:33:41.000When George Soros dies, I know he's got foundations and things like that, but what we know is that his vision will not last forever.
00:33:48.000But if collectively we can inspire and create a movement of Christian conservative generosity, that it's not all dependent on one person, because I don't want it to be just dependent on me.
00:34:00.000I want to raise my kids to be generous.
00:34:02.000I want to inspire my neighbors, friends, and all of your listeners to be generous, to support great organizations like TPUSA and their local church and other organizations that are out there fighting for freedom, fighting for life, fighting for our kids to be safe from all of the radical agendas that are out there.
00:34:19.000So it's really not about me becoming this multi-billion dollar giver, but it's really about collectively inspiring fellow Americans and really fellow citizens of the world that believe in biblical principles to start giving the way that God teaches us to in Matthew 25 and the parable of the talents.
00:35:14.000You know, the book's only been out for less than a month, and the feedback I've gotten from people who know me, as well as complete strangers, has been extremely positive.
00:35:22.000Charlie, I'm incredibly grateful for the opportunity to come and chat with you and your listeners, and super grateful for all that you stand for and all that you do.