The Charlie Kirk Show - March 22, 2023


Should DeSantis Step In? Can He?


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Should Ron DeSantis draw a line in the sand and say you cannot extradite Trump? It's a radical proposal. And then I ask a simple question: What is racism? Charlie Kirk is the founder of Turning Point USA, a youth organization that fights for freedom on campuses across the country.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today in the Charlie Kirk show, should Ron DeSantis draw a line in the sand and say you cannot extradite Trump?
00:00:06.000 It's a radical proposal.
00:00:07.000 And then I ask a very simple question.
00:00:08.000 What is racism?
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00:01:07.000 Ron DeSantis has been in the headlines the last couple of days.
00:01:11.000 I think some of the coverage of him has been unfair.
00:01:14.000 Some of it, I think, has been pretty good feedback.
00:01:18.000 I think people have been really fired up at Governor DeSantis because they feel as if in that press conference, he kind of took a little bit of a low jab against Trump.
00:01:25.000 He didn't quite understand how angry people were about this ridiculous overreach abuse of indictment authority and prosecutorial abuse done by, potentially done by Alvin Bragg in Manhattan because it seemed as if they were going to indict Donald Trump.
00:01:40.000 And now that's a little bit more in question, largely because of the media and the PR backlash.
00:01:46.000 But Ron DeSantis the other day said this, and let's just play it again.
00:01:50.000 Again, and I think that some of the representations of this press conference have been overblown.
00:01:58.000 At the same time, I'll be honest, he missed an opportunity.
00:02:00.000 He should have been very forceful.
00:02:02.000 He should have leaned in.
00:02:03.000 And there's one element here that I think he missed.
00:02:06.000 Matt Gates also identified this as well.
00:02:09.000 But let's replay it.
00:02:11.000 Cut 12.
00:02:12.000 This was Ron DeSantis speaking on the Trump case.
00:02:15.000 Won some sneering and snarking from the audience.
00:02:19.000 Play Cut 12.
00:02:21.000 You're talking about this situation with, and look, I don't know what goes into paying hush money to a porn star to secure silence over some type of alleged affair.
00:02:31.000 I just, I can't speak to that.
00:02:33.000 But what I can speak to is that if you have a prosecutor who is ignoring crimes happening every single day in his jurisdiction, and he chooses to go back many, many years ago to try to use something about porn star hush money payments, you know, that's an example of pursuing a political agenda and weaponizing the office.
00:02:59.000 And I think that that's fundamentally wrong.
00:03:02.000 Now, that statement did not sit well with a lot of you, the audience, and especially amongst a lot of conservative commentators, largely because there was this opportunity.
00:03:13.000 There was this opportunity to do something that I think the base wanted to see, where they wanted to see somebody stand up against the bully.
00:03:21.000 They wanted to see somebody to use political power to stand up against this Alvin Bragg guy who very well, for the first time in American history, will indict a former president.
00:03:31.000 And the New York Times even did a legal analysis and determined that the New York District Attorney's Office has never brought a criminal referral on a campaign finance violation before.
00:03:40.000 This would be the first.
00:03:41.000 This was kind of an us versus them moment.
00:03:43.000 It's very, very tribal. 0.85
00:03:46.000 I'm not saying that's a good moment to be in American politics, but it's honest and it's pure and it's raw and it's authentic.
00:03:52.000 And people wanted a warrior at that press conference.
00:03:55.000 And instead, it seemed as if Ron DeSantis was kind of taking a jab at Donald Trump and looked at responses.
00:04:00.000 Well, Trump has been very unfair to DeSantis.
00:04:03.000 I think that's an accurate response.
00:04:05.000 But despite the pettiness that this campaign has kind of unfortunately descended into, the idea of indicting a former president is bigger than name-calling.
00:04:16.000 And so the question is: well, what should Ron DeSantis have done from a policy perspective?
00:04:20.000 And I think that's a very interesting question because outside of just issuing a statement and saying, I don't like it and he's doing prosecutor overreach, which he did include in his statement, I think it's critical to explore why it is that a blue state DA could just invent a new law to be able to indict a former president, to interfere with the presidential election.
00:04:46.000 If Joe Biden is running for president in 2024, how is Alvin Bragg not doing the political bidding of the Biden campaign?
00:04:54.000 This is a direct election interference.
00:04:56.000 This is not about campaign finance.
00:04:57.000 It's not about justice.
00:04:58.000 This is about revenge.
00:04:59.000 This is about punitive abuse of the prosecutorial system.
00:05:05.000 And the answer will be like, well, Ron DeSantis can't do anything.
00:05:09.000 And that's an interesting question.
00:05:11.000 Can a governor, can somebody in a state stand up to abuse from powers from the federal government or from another state?
00:05:22.000 Well, Matt Gates has floated out an idea.
00:05:25.000 It's come under great ridicule.
00:05:28.000 It's come under great attack.
00:05:30.000 But it's interesting and it's not as unprecedented as you might think.
00:05:35.000 Play Cut 44.
00:05:37.000 Ron DeSantis should be standing in the breach to stop any sort of extradition of President Trump from the state of Florida.
00:05:44.000 And the fact that he's not doing so puts every Floridian at risk who could be the subject of a false allegation.
00:05:50.000 I know Ron DeSantis well.
00:05:52.000 He's a friend, but he hasn't been the target of false and persistent allegations like President Trump has.
00:05:59.000 And so I don't think he really understands the nature of this fight right now.
00:06:03.000 I think that it was a bit uncouth for him to take a jab at the former president.
00:06:07.000 And there's a role for the governor of Florida here, I think, to stand up for our state, for the rule of law, and to push back against the Sorosization of the criminal justice system.
00:06:18.000 So then what does this moment necessitate?
00:06:21.000 And this is a question that we ask of conservative politicians, pundits, people in the conservative movement.
00:06:27.000 Do you know what time it is?
00:06:29.000 Is it the 1990s, or have we entered a new era, this kind of postmodern chapter where it's a power struggle?
00:06:38.000 Very simply, Ron DeSantis should look into the camera and say, we're not going to honor the extradition.
00:06:44.000 It's dead on arrival.
00:06:46.000 If you're trying to tell me you're going to indict a former president through a campaign finance violation in New York, I'm going to send the Florida sheriffs and say this warrant does not apply.
00:06:56.000 Now, the ramifications of that are extreme.
00:06:58.000 That is an extreme proposal.
00:07:00.000 I think it warrants it in this situation.
00:07:03.000 What good are red states if you do not stand up for what is right and what is moral and what is clear?
00:07:10.000 It'd be one thing if we had a video of Donald Trump firebombing police officers with Molotov cocktails like the BLM activists. 0.98
00:07:17.000 It'd be one thing if we had evidence of Donald Trump on Jeffrey Epstein's plane going down to the island like we do with Bill Gates and Bill Clinton.
00:07:27.000 It'd be one thing if we have evidence of Donald Trump smashing cell phones like Hillary Clinton did.
00:07:32.000 It'd be one thing if we have evidence of Donald Trump getting millions of dollars from Chinese Communist Party affiliated companies for absolutely nothing in return.
00:07:42.000 Then I would say, hey, let's not cross that Rubicon.
00:07:45.000 This is an invented, it is a fictional legal prosecution that they are probing right now.
00:07:52.000 And now the media is saying, oh, wow, Matt Gates is calling for quasi-secession.
00:07:56.000 How dare states stand up and say that this is wrong.
00:08:03.000 Why would states ever use that power?
00:08:05.000 Well, just to kind of reinforce how absurd this is, Senator Ted Cruz defending Donald Trump play cut 54.
00:08:12.000 Yeah, listen, the long and short of it is this indictment, if it comes this week, is absolutely outrageous.
00:08:19.000 It is frivolous.
00:08:21.000 It is baseless.
00:08:22.000 It is a political persecution.
00:08:24.000 It is not a prosecution.
00:08:26.000 It is targeting Donald Trump because Alvin Bragg is a left-wing Democrat who hates Donald Trump.
00:08:32.000 And legally, this case is absurd on its face.
00:08:38.000 Remember, Cruz was the main person facing off against Trump in 2016.
00:08:42.000 He refused to endorse him at the 2016 convention.
00:08:46.000 And now Ted Cruz is saying this is baseless and it's a political persecution.
00:08:50.000 Can red states do anything?
00:08:52.000 Can Ron DeSantis do anything?
00:08:53.000 Some people would say, well, Charlie, no, no, you have to abide by these interstate arrest warrants.
00:09:00.000 You cannot break those kind of contractual obligations.
00:09:03.000 You can't just wall off cities.
00:09:05.000 You just can't have your own laws.
00:09:07.000 You just can't have your own jurisdictions.
00:09:10.000 Like, are you sure?
00:09:16.000 That might sound right, but then how do you explain sanctuary cities?
00:09:22.000 How do you explain sanctuary states?
00:09:25.000 For the last decade, we've had blue states that have said, we have our own immigration law.
00:09:29.000 Federal law doesn't apply. 0.89
00:09:30.000 Doesn't matter if these people are rapists or murderers or arsonists or child sex traffickers.
00:09:34.000 They have a home in Chicago, in D.C., in New York, San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle. 0.71
00:09:39.000 Sanctuary cities.
00:09:39.000 We're going to create our own laws.
00:09:41.000 We're going to carve out our own areas.
00:09:42.000 So why doesn't Ron DeSantis create a sanctuary state for a former president under political persecution? 0.78
00:09:50.000 If the left is able to create sanctuary states for rapists and murderers, thugs and criminals, I don't think it's too big of an ass for Ron DeSantis to create a sanctuary state for a former president who's being persecuted by a Soros-funded DA in a separate state.
00:10:10.000 And so the last couple of years, we've lived under this precedent where blue states are able to carve out their own laws. 0.82
00:10:19.000 This is not without precedent.
00:10:20.000 When it came to immigration law, we just kind of rolled our eyes and said, well, I guess that's what happened in San Francisco, New York, L.A.
00:10:26.000 So they're able to carve out sanctuary states for illegals, violent felons, by the way. 0.84
00:10:34.000 Remember this?
00:10:34.000 In 2019, after a cop was killed, Hakeem Jeffries defended what they called sanctuary laws.
00:10:42.000 And how is that not an act of secession?
00:10:45.000 So let me get this straight.
00:10:46.000 New York City, defended by Hakeem Jeffries, can say illegals, foreign nationals, and border trespassers are allowed in the city of New York, and they're allowed to carve out their own laws.
00:10:57.000 How is that not an act of secession?
00:11:00.000 But Florida's not able to say, you know what, New York, no, you're not able to go take a former president on a campaign finance violation.
00:11:07.000 Not going to happen.
00:11:08.000 The line is here.
00:11:09.000 Play Cut 51.
00:11:11.000 You've defended sanctuary laws.
00:11:13.000 The sheriff says if those laws hadn't been in place, Officer Singh would be alive today.
00:11:17.000 My experience in New York has been different where members of the NYPD, clearly the most professional, highly trained law enforcement entity in the country, if not the world, has been that these sanctuary laws actually help promote public safety by encouraging cooperation, encouraging communication between community and police.
00:11:41.000 Remember this saying in Cut 52, it's actually recently UNESCO Hernandez for the LA City Council saying that illegal immigrants are the lifeblood of the city of Los Angeles.
00:11:50.000 They're the lifeblood.
00:11:52.000 Play Cut 52.
00:11:54.000 A city of Los Angeles that protects immigrants, that welcomes immigrants, that say you are the lifeblood of the city and that we embrace you, that we love you, and you are part of our community, and we will do everything so that you can live in the city and thrive.
00:12:09.000 And finally, St. Louis leaders respond to the threats from the U.S. Department of Justice, this is under Trump, and they're basically saying, We're going to keep on doing sanctuary cities in outright defiance of the federal government.
00:12:23.000 So you can just make up your own laws now.
00:12:24.000 The answer is yes, and we've just taken it.
00:12:26.000 So the left is able to carve out their own laws, their own convenient places that make them comfortable for lawbreaking, crime, rape, arson, and yes, gender mutilation, which I'll get to in a second.
00:12:40.000 Play Cut 53.
00:12:42.000 St. Louis leaders are responding to threats from the U.S. Department of Justice to stick it to sanctuary cities.
00:12:48.000 In a conversation with five on your side today, Lewis Reed said it is outrageous the federal government wants to set local policies just to fit President Trump's priorities.
00:12:58.000 He also said the city has a lot of problems and illegal immigration just is not at the top of the list.
00:13:04.000 Oh, they have a lot of problems and they want to keep the federal government out of the way.
00:13:08.000 Okay.
00:13:09.000 Well, did you know right now, California SB 107, California is saying they're going to ignore anti-mutilation laws in other states.
00:13:18.000 In fact, it goes so far to say that if you bring your child to California and you say you're fleeing the anti-trans laws, they'll ignore family court rulings.
00:13:29.000 They will say that the court rulings from other states do not apply in California.
00:13:34.000 That it is a sanctuary state.
00:13:35.000 You can flee as a refugee into California. 0.98
00:13:39.000 So a very simple question.
00:13:40.000 If California can be a sanctuary state for child mutilation, then why can't Florida protect a former president from bogus charges?
00:13:52.000 It's a very simple question.
00:13:55.000 It is a one-to-one.
00:13:57.000 The left has already forced a constitutional crisis.
00:14:00.000 People are losing their mind because all of a sudden they realize that conservatives are beginning to stand up against their overreach, their abuse of power.
00:14:08.000 Isn't this the perfect opportunity to say you're not going to actually be able to extradite him?
00:14:12.000 It's not going to happen.
00:14:14.000 If we had an honest media, I wouldn't be the first one telling you this.
00:14:18.000 The left forced the hand of the constitutional crisis here.
00:14:21.000 Sanctuary cities, refusal to deport, refusal to comply with federal officials.
00:14:27.000 Remember Chaz, the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone?
00:14:30.000 And then, of course, now this other one, this anti-trans, this what they call is the anti-mutilation laws in California, where they can create their own laws and carve outs and ignore what other states are doing.
00:14:42.000 If that's the new precedent, then so be it.
00:14:46.000 The line should be drawn and should say you're not going to be able to extradite him.
00:14:49.000 He's safe here in the state of Florida.
00:14:51.000 He's welcome here in the state of Florida.
00:14:55.000 If you can have a refugee-type policy for kids that are getting medically mutilated in Arkansas and they fly to Los Angeles to try to get their parts chopped off, then I think President Trump should be able to rest at Mar-a-Lago without having to worry about an extradition request from one state to the other.
00:15:14.000 Now, some people say, well, Charlie, this is so extreme.
00:15:16.000 This has never been done before.
00:15:18.000 It's being done in California and other places.
00:15:18.000 No, it's not.
00:15:20.000 And the left has forced this.
00:15:21.000 The left does not live by any sort of code of conduct, clear ethics, or transparent rules.
00:15:27.000 It's all about power, and it's convenient, and they'll contort the rules to their liking.
00:15:31.000 At some point, you have to show the political bullies like Alvin Bragg that we have power too.
00:15:37.000 Florida has an opportunity to do this and just say, we're not extraditing him.
00:15:42.000 What are you going to do next, Alvin Bragg?
00:15:44.000 Moves on you.
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00:16:52.000 There's some breaking news, and I'm going to answer a really good question we received here.
00:16:57.000 Trump grand jury proceedings canceled for the day under mysterious circumstances.
00:16:57.000 Breaking news.
00:17:03.000 Are they going to blink?
00:17:04.000 This would be one of the great swings and a miss if they get this close with all the bluster, all the PR, all the media, all the hype, and they blink and they back off.
00:17:17.000 There's no guarantee.
00:17:18.000 I still think they might go for it.
00:17:20.000 I still think they might actually go and they might put it.
00:17:22.000 I don't know.
00:17:23.000 I don't want to make any predictions here because some of my predictions have been way off on this stuff in the last couple months.
00:17:28.000 But boy, that would be something.
00:17:30.000 So they're canceled under mysterious circumstances.
00:17:34.000 I have to say, Donald Trump, this last weekend, he went and got the lifeline.
00:17:42.000 And he basically pulled his last measure, which was to say, I'm going to be indicted.
00:17:47.000 And what happened was it thrust a lot of PR support preemptively and it pre-bunked this and it put the Manhattan DA on defense.
00:17:56.000 Op-Eds, Twitter, all of a sudden it's like, wait, what is this?
00:17:58.000 What are the charges?
00:17:58.000 What is this?
00:17:59.000 What are the charges?
00:18:00.000 It's very smart.
00:18:01.000 And Trump actually might have been able, if he ends up not getting indicted in this, he will have pre-bunked and preempted it.
00:18:07.000 It would be one of the most remarkable textbook moves in the narrative war.
00:18:11.000 Now, we received a really good question.
00:18:13.000 And a good question here is this.
00:18:15.000 They say, well, Charlie, your idea is troublesome because what about Donald Trump wanting to campaign for president?
00:18:22.000 That's actually a really good point.
00:18:24.000 But let's go through the states that you have to win to become president, at least in the meantime, before this con job actually happens.
00:18:31.000 Okay, Iowa.
00:18:34.000 Will Governor Reynolds do the same thing as DeSantis if DeSantis were to do this?
00:18:39.000 How about South Carolina?
00:18:39.000 Sure.
00:18:41.000 What I'm saying is that all the red states should honor this.
00:18:45.000 This is a time for every red state to say, you know what, we are not going to honor this.
00:18:49.000 Now, Arizona, albeit Katie Hobbs would send the shock troops immediately.
00:18:54.000 The point is this, is that this is a chance.
00:18:56.000 I think this is a Rubicon moment where are we just going to take this?
00:19:01.000 We're going to act like this is normal and this is okay when we have political power and we can at least fight this in some capacity.
00:19:10.000 Is Donald Trump a violent criminal?
00:19:14.000 The question is this, do they have interstate extradition over traffic violations, over parking violations?
00:19:21.000 I venture a guess, and I don't know the complexities of the law here, but one of the reasons why Alvin Bragg wants to put this up to a felony status is I think that then gives him more power for interstate extradition.
00:19:35.000 I'm speculating, but there are certain things that don't actually get you up to the threshold where they just send the sheriff after you.
00:19:41.000 They send the local police.
00:19:45.000 I think it's a yes for almost anything, but states almost only bother to do this for felonies.
00:19:50.000 They're not going to just do this for like trespassing or misdemeanor in every single case.
00:19:55.000 Now, it is a former president, so it would be hard not to ignore it, but shouldn't we at least go through some sort of a process of having the local Florida DA and the Florida Attorney General put some doubt into Alvin Bragg and say we're not going to do this, or have Iowa say that as well?
00:20:13.000 Why don't we have more states say Donald Trump is safe to travel to our state as long as that is the story?
00:20:20.000 If all of a sudden you come out with some sort of video of Donald Trump launching Molotov cocktails against police officers, we'll happily extradite him.
00:20:28.000 If all of a sudden you come out with some evidence that Donald Trump is laundering money to the Chinese Communist Party, we'll happily extradite him.
00:20:37.000 I want to get to a couple pieces of tape here I think that helps broaden this.
00:20:40.000 It's two points.
00:20:41.000 Number one, we cannot discount George Soros' role in all of this.
00:20:48.000 We've done a lot of coverage on George Soros, how he made his money, which was by shorting the Bank of England and shorting the pound, being basically a currency manipulator.
00:20:58.000 George Soros is one of the most evil political figures to live in the last couple decades.
00:21:03.000 He has dedicated nearly $20 billion to this effort.
00:21:08.000 He wants it a lot more than most conservative, wealthy people do.
00:21:10.000 He's dedicated almost all of his money with religious fervor and zeal.
00:21:14.000 He does not believe in God.
00:21:15.000 That is a stated position of his.
00:21:17.000 He believes in what he calls open societies.
00:21:19.000 He thinks the police are one of the great enemies of society.
00:21:24.000 And he funds DAs.
00:21:25.000 He funded Kim Fox.
00:21:26.000 He funded that Chessa Boudin person in San Francisco who thankfully got recalled.
00:21:30.000 And he funded Alvin Bragg.
00:21:32.000 So here's a guy who funds DA races in cities he doesn't live in.
00:21:37.000 That's strange.
00:21:38.000 You would only do that if you wanted to take over the country and you wanted to disassemble it.
00:21:43.000 George Soros wants a weaker America.
00:21:47.000 Now, interestingly, Soros in Hebrew can be, it has a couple interpretations.
00:21:53.000 It means, one of the interpretations means stones.
00:21:56.000 And that actually would mean in ancient times to be trouble, because if you had a donkey or you had a mule, they didn't have horses as we would know them, but some sort of donkey or mule, whenever you would come across stones, could break the leg.
00:22:11.000 And so therefore, Soros literally means trouble.
00:22:13.000 So you could interpret the Hebrew.
00:22:15.000 There's other interpretations as well, but I'm going with that one.
00:22:18.000 So, because there's a lot of roots and verb connotations in Hebrew.
00:22:24.000 Soros, trouble. 1.00
00:22:25.000 Okay, so George Trouble funded Alvin Bragg.
00:22:29.000 But MSNBC says that if you criticize George Soros in any way, it's dangerous.
00:22:36.000 Play cut 50.
00:22:37.000 The fact that they keep throwing George Soros' name, we've talked about a lot in our show meetings, is it definitely feels like a dog whistle that is dangerous.
00:22:45.000 It absolutely feels like a dog whistle that's dangerous.
00:22:48.000 Look, most of these groups, the oath keepers, boogaloo boys, proud boys, they all subscribe to what you are all referring to as the great replacement theory, which is that idea that the majority of the white population is being replaced. 0.75
00:23:00.000 And this is why we see these spikes in racism, these spikes in anti-Semitism, is because they are ascribing to this belief.
00:23:08.000 And it's stoking this division.
00:23:11.000 I mean, I'm actually thinking of doing a short version inspired by Matt Walsh of a docuseries, just short, like 20 or 30 minutes, just called What is Racism?
00:23:21.000 And going around to random people and asking them what is racism, how do you define it?
00:23:24.000 Because we use it so much.
00:23:26.000 And I think we're actually lacking in a definition.
00:23:29.000 Can you, hey, Ryan, can you get Iber Mex Kendi, Harry Rogers?
00:23:33.000 There was a clip that came out in the last day or two where he was asked to define racism and he kept on defining it with the term Henry Rogers.
00:23:41.000 Thank you.
00:23:42.000 You can't criticize George Soros because it's about the great replacement.
00:23:46.000 I mean, these people are so shallow intellectually.
00:23:48.000 They've never thought deeply about anything. 0.70
00:23:51.000 George Soros is a civilizational arsonist.
00:23:53.000 That's what he is.
00:23:54.000 He's no different than the Joker from the Batman movies.
00:23:57.000 He just wants to see the world burn. 0.89
00:23:59.000 He's a bitter person.
00:24:00.000 I think he has deeper motives than that.
00:24:02.000 That's somewhat speculative.
00:24:04.000 I don't want to speculate on this program.
00:24:05.000 I can say this, though.
00:24:07.000 In his publicly published writings and speeches, this man does not want what's best for America.
00:24:14.000 Now, by the way, now, MSNBC says that criticizing Mr. Soros is, there's another one here.
00:24:22.000 Hold on.
00:24:23.000 It was Scarborough.
00:24:23.000 It was George.
00:24:24.000 Not that one.
00:24:26.000 There was one the other day of it was Scarborough going after the Soros thing.
00:24:31.000 Hold on.
00:24:31.000 It's a very powerful.
00:24:32.000 Yeah, okay, good.
00:24:33.000 Cut 28, please.
00:24:33.000 Great.
00:24:34.000 Saying that DeSantis' comments about Soros are anti-Semitic.
00:24:39.000 I want to just say this is such a nauseating kind of line of attack.
00:24:43.000 You are allowed to criticize anybody of any group if they're doing something evil.
00:24:49.000 And that does not automatically mean that you have contempt for the group.
00:24:54.000 There's bad of all groups.
00:24:56.000 You should be able to say that. 0.84
00:24:57.000 There's crummy people in every religion. 0.99
00:24:59.000 There's crummy people in every race. 1.00
00:25:01.000 That doesn't mean the entire race or the religion is crummy.
00:25:05.000 You're able to say that George Soros is doing damage to America while simultaneously saying, like I say, that I have a great heart and reverence for the Jewish people.
00:25:17.000 Both can be simultaneously true.
00:25:19.000 And George Soros is not even religious.
00:25:22.000 He has contempt for religion.
00:25:25.000 Play cut 28.
00:25:27.000 Because we did kind of brush past his anti-Semitic swaying.
00:25:33.000 Yeah, like, you know, he did the whole, oh, it's the international Jewish banker's fault. 0.97
00:25:39.000 Just straight out of just pure anti-Semitic drivel.
00:25:45.000 And we now see Ron DeSantis is quoting talking points from Vladimir Putin about territorial disputes, and he's repeating old anti-Semitic tropes attacking international Jewish bankers.
00:26:02.000 It's just like, come on.
00:26:04.000 This is who you guys say is the anti-Trump.
00:26:08.000 Okay.
00:26:09.000 So this is such a sloppy line of attack by Scarborough.
00:26:15.000 Sloppiness is something he's actually been known to be good at.
00:26:21.000 This is the old kind of line of attack of Hitler had a dog. 0.76
00:26:26.000 Like, oh, Hitler had a dog, therefore all people who have dogs must be Hitler. 0.63
00:26:30.000 That line of thinking is a logical fallacy.
00:26:33.000 Just because somebody says something that Vladimir Putin, comma, a bad person, comma, also said, does not mean that you are resonating with Vladimir Putin.
00:26:44.000 Does it mean that you are parroting Putin's talking points?
00:26:48.000 This is all these people have.
00:26:50.000 I mean, this should give you so much confidence.
00:26:52.000 We are going to win this.
00:26:54.000 We're going to win this culture war.
00:26:55.000 Eventually, we have to have perseverance.
00:26:58.000 We have to have commitment.
00:26:59.000 These people have nothing.
00:27:02.000 As a response to George Soros disassembling the criminal justice system, oh, you're being anti-Semitic.
00:27:09.000 You got to go deeper than that.
00:27:11.000 That doesn't phase us.
00:27:12.000 It's untrue.
00:27:15.000 It is fallacious.
00:27:17.000 It's not even circular reasoning.
00:27:19.000 You know what it is?
00:27:20.000 I don't know who came up with this term, but it's beautiful, and I use it.
00:27:24.000 So whoever came up with it, email me.
00:27:25.000 I'll give you credit.
00:27:26.000 It's a thought-terminating cliché.
00:27:30.000 As soon as you say it, you're supposed to stop thinking. 0.99
00:27:33.000 That's what racist, transphobic, bigot, intolerant. 0.92
00:27:37.000 Soon as you say it, thought terminating cliché. 0.71
00:27:42.000 It's a cliche that makes you to stop thinking and puts you into paralysis because you don't want to be called a racist.
00:27:54.000 But what is racism?
00:27:56.000 Again, I might do just the 20-minute short inspired by Matt Walsh.
00:27:59.000 He totally gave me the idea for it because I can't get a good question.
00:28:03.000 What is racism?
00:28:06.000 I want the question.
00:28:07.000 I mean, can you answer the question, what is racism?
00:28:10.000 Is it a power dynamic?
00:28:11.000 Can black people be racist?
00:28:13.000 It's a super simple question. 0.95
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00:30:54.000 Okay, so Henry Rogers, this is one of the most amazing clips.
00:30:59.000 This is his job.
00:31:00.000 He's made millions of dollars talking about how racist America is. 0.99
00:31:03.000 Racist, racist, racist, racist. 0.52
00:31:05.000 But the simple question needs to be asked: well, what exactly is racism, pal? 0.93
00:31:10.000 So there was this forum, and he was asked the question, what is racism?
00:31:16.000 Now, circular reasoning is when you define the term with the term.
00:31:21.000 This happens all the time on college campuses. 0.97
00:31:24.000 I asked the question of one attendee last week, UC Davis, and this one woman, she said, well, I think a woman is someone who thinks they're a woman.
00:31:33.000 Okay, yeah, I got that. 0.56
00:31:34.000 But what is the woman?
00:31:35.000 You can't answer the question with the definition of what I'm asking you, the definition.
00:31:39.000 You have to answer the question, what is the definition of it?
00:31:42.000 But they have never thought about it.
00:31:44.000 It's basically saying, okay, the sky is blue because the hue and the color spectrum is that the sky is blue.
00:31:52.000 You can't do that.
00:31:53.000 It's like saying, well, what is a shirt?
00:31:55.000 Well, a shirt is something that is a shirt.
00:31:58.000 That alone, in second grade, you're not allowed to do that.
00:32:00.000 But now that passes for academic discipline by the senior archbishop of the religion of anti-racism, which is Ibram X. Kendi.
00:32:09.000 I can define racism.
00:32:11.000 Racism is one person being bigoted or prejudiced to another person based on immutable characteristics that they cannot change.
00:32:18.000 The other reason why Ibram X. Kendi can't answer this question is he knows that if he gives an actual definition, that it could be applied to his own bigotry he has towards white people.
00:32:28.000 So he's kind of in a catch-22.
00:32:30.000 And by the way, the whole racket that this guy has is he extorts white people, mainly upper-middle-class white suburban women that have real identity problems and they read his books, like, wow, I'm really guilty.
00:32:42.000 I'll go take my husband's money and give $500 to BLM.
00:32:45.000 It makes me feel better, kind of like a religious ceremony, is that Kendi can't expose it.
00:32:50.000 But here's the honest truth.
00:32:51.000 Kendi is just not that smart, but he keeps rocketing upward because liberals are too afraid to question him.
00:32:56.000 And this is a huge difference between us as conservatives and us as these DEI extortion racketeers.
00:33:04.000 At Turning Point USA, at our events, whether it be Candace Owens when she speaks at Turning Point USA and with the stuff we do with Blexit, or whether it be Matt Walsh or Shapiro or Knowles or the Charlie Kirk Show, you can say whatever you want about us, but we invite critical dialogue and question after question after question.
00:33:23.000 These people do not.
00:33:24.000 If Ibram X. Kendi were to show up like I'm going tonight at Ohio State University, he would not have an open mic.
00:33:29.000 You know why? 1.00
00:33:30.000 Because a Turning Point USA chapter leader would be there with an informed question and it would go viral because this guy's a fool. 0.96
00:33:37.000 The speakers on the conservative side, myself, Walsh, Shapiro, Candace, we are constantly inviting dialogue because we have to defend our positions and we can defend our positions. 0.95
00:33:51.000 Okay, so here is Ibram X. Kendi being asked, what is racism?
00:33:55.000 And racism is racism.
00:33:57.000 Like out 55.
00:34:00.000 I didn't hear your personal definition.
00:34:02.000 Is there one that you would offer us?
00:34:03.000 Like, how do you define racism?
00:34:05.000 Sure.
00:34:06.000 So racism, I would define it as a collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.
00:34:18.000 And anti-racism is pretty simple using the same terms.
00:34:23.000 Anti-racism is a collection of anti-racist policies leading to racial...
00:34:27.000 Anybody want to take a guess?
00:34:29.000 Equity that are substantiated by anti-racist ideas. 1.00
00:34:33.000 This guy is a moron. 1.00
00:34:36.000 Yeah, the racism is racist policies. 1.00
00:34:40.000 No, I got that, but what is the actual word you keep on using to define the word?
00:34:45.000 So my definition is the actual vocab term.
00:34:48.000 And isn't that interesting?
00:34:49.000 The whole country, we are reorganizing the whole country on a word that I don't think most of their academics can actually define.
00:34:58.000 That's why I'm kind of compelled to do this short little thing, just asking the question, what is racism?
00:35:03.000 Can you define it?
00:35:05.000 I think it would be a big hit.
00:35:07.000 I'm going to do it, Ryan.
00:35:08.000 I think it'll be fun.
00:35:11.000 And this is all they have.
00:35:12.000 And the fact you go even just like one level deeper, you just go a little bit deeper and you ask the question, what exactly is it?
00:35:19.000 That guy is a multi-millionaire racketeer on the topic of racism.
00:35:25.000 You would think that he would be able to have a better definition than that.
00:35:29.000 His whole life is about this.
00:35:31.000 I mean, if you asked a molecular biologist, hey, what is molecular biology?
00:35:36.000 I think they would be able to answer it in a pretty tight way without actually using the term in the definition.
00:35:43.000 You wouldn't allow a third grader to do that.
00:35:47.000 Google at least says it's prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism by an individual, community, or institution against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is minority or marginalized.
00:35:58.000 The second part's a little bit nonsensical, but I'll take it.
00:36:01.000 That's pretty good.
00:36:04.000 What is racism?
00:36:07.000 It's a very simple question that the people who make millions of dollars in telling you racism is everywhere can't even tell you what it is.
00:36:16.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.
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00:36:21.000 Thanks so much for listening, and God bless.
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