The Charlie Kirk Show - November 01, 2023


Should Facts Care About Women's Feelings? with Alex Clark


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Alex Clark joins the show to talk about her new show, Spillover, and why conservative women are having a hard time finding a good man. She s a woman expert, and she s got a lot to say about it.

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00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, Alex Clark joins the program.
00:00:02.000 You should check out her podcast and her YouTube at RealAlex Clark.
00:00:06.000 I struggle with what she says.
00:00:08.000 I think we come to some agreement at the end, but this feelings thing, I don't know about that.
00:00:13.000 But she tries to convince me, and it's a fun conversation.
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00:00:48.000 Here we go.
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00:01:30.000 All right, Alex, welcome.
00:01:32.000 Thank you for having me.
00:01:33.000 We were talking about some very fun things.
00:01:35.000 You are here.
00:01:36.000 First, talk about your show.
00:01:37.000 It's going very well.
00:01:38.000 So I host the Spillover podcast.
00:01:40.000 Once a week, I have an interview with somebody that has an amazing jaw-dropping story or expertise in something that typically is going to matter, educate, or entertain women.
00:01:50.000 Primarily, that's my audience.
00:01:51.000 So you are a woman expert. 1.00
00:01:54.000 Well, I would like to say, since I am one.
00:01:56.000 See, she says she knows what a woman is. 1.00
00:01:58.000 That crazy video that I have, by the way, I was like, do you see that one with? 0.94
00:02:01.000 Oh, yeah, it's fantastic.
00:02:02.000 Thank you.
00:02:03.000 It couldn't have been scripted, but I mean, it's not because of me.
00:02:05.000 Okay, so there's this new poll.
00:02:07.000 Now, the men one is actually not great either, but this is from Change Research.
00:02:11.000 Okay.
00:02:12.000 So it's red flags in a partner.
00:02:14.000 All right.
00:02:15.000 So this is younger people.
00:02:16.000 I think it's 18 to 25 that they were polling.
00:02:19.000 Yeah.
00:02:19.000 And they just did this, I think, in August to September.
00:02:22.000 This is brand new.
00:02:23.000 It was like over 1,300 kids in that age group that they pulled.
00:02:27.000 So what do you consider to be a red flag?
00:02:30.000 76% of women say that if a man says they identify as a MAGA Republican, that's a red flag.
00:02:39.000 66% they have no hobbies.
00:02:42.000 60% they say all lives matter, Alex is a red flag to women. 0.99
00:02:46.000 It's a red flag.
00:02:47.000 58% do not want to date a man if they say there's only two genders.
00:02:54.000 55% say they're turned off if they identify as a communist.
00:02:58.000 Okay.
00:02:59.000 But 55% are turned off if they listen to Joe Rogan.
00:03:02.000 It's the same.
00:03:03.000 Communism and Joe Rogan, one and the same.
00:03:05.000 So Alex, I hear commonly, I can't find a good, I can't find a man, can't find a man.
00:03:10.000 Well, this windows out the dating pool.
00:03:13.000 Yeah, so here's the situation. 0.99
00:03:16.000 There's a huge problem with young women right now. 1.00
00:03:20.000 And remember, there was another chart that came out that was really exciting because it told us at the beginning of summer, I believe, that young men were skewing heavily conservative.
00:03:29.000 Yes, and yeah, we see that. 0.96
00:03:30.000 But we're losing the women. 0.99
00:03:32.000 Big time.
00:03:32.000 And I'm going to tell you something that's going to be uncomfortable, and a lot of conservatives are going to get mad.
00:03:36.000 Trigger warning.
00:03:37.000 Here's your trigger warning.
00:03:39.000 A huge fault of this lies on conservatives. 0.68
00:03:42.000 So the way that we have historically been reaching out to women has been an utter failure because we thought the whole facts don't feelings thing, that was going to work.
00:03:53.000 Works with young men, which we're seeing the payoff in young men, turning to conservatism, but it totally fails in reaching young women.
00:04:01.000 Emotionality actually matters a lot to women. 1.00
00:04:05.000 And so when we approach issues like, you know, abortion or black lives mattering and all this, we do need to appeal to the emotional points first. 0.95
00:04:14.000 That is the only way we're going to get through to them.
00:04:15.000 But conservatives kind of gave up on that in the last five, six years, and now we're seeing the results.
00:04:21.000 Okay.
00:04:23.000 So help me understand that because I don't care about people's feelings over there.
00:04:27.000 I know, but that's what I'm saying.
00:04:28.000 But to women, young female voters, that does matter. 1.00
00:04:30.000 And so what they see when conservatives talk, all they feel is it's mean, it's hostile.
00:04:39.000 The feelings do matter when it comes to addressing and reaching young women, is what I'm saying.
00:04:43.000 Sure.
00:04:44.000 So that's not going to change so now what?
00:04:46.000 So that's not going to, well, it needs to change.
00:04:49.000 We need to do a little bit better in our messaging to women. 1.00
00:04:52.000 But, but here's another thing.
00:04:54.000 So this is actually kind of a plus because it tells men exactly who to look out for, first of all.
00:05:01.000 Yeah. 0.90
00:05:01.000 I mean, so like most women want nothing to do with the men that actually will give them what they want, right? 0.90
00:05:08.000 Right.
00:05:08.000 Because being with a conservative man is going to require a little bit of self-sacrifice.
00:05:14.000 You cannot be me-centric with a conservative man.
00:05:18.000 Together, you guys are helping serve others, raise another generation, ideally.
00:05:22.000 There's a lot of selflessness involved in that ideology. 0.97
00:05:26.000 And we have raised women, especially in a self-love, me first, narcissistic culture. 0.85
00:05:33.000 And so women are not willing to make that sacrifice. 1.00
00:05:37.000 So do you, I mean, I'm hearing you.
00:05:39.000 I'm trying to think on the campuses, most of the hate, most of the anger I get is from young women or men who think they are women, right?
00:05:48.000 And the support is definitely more with young men.
00:05:51.000 Men are more right-wing.
00:05:53.000 And, but is there kind of this new identity of like single womanhood that is seeping in that is almost they want nothing to do with conservatism regardless of how we we brand it?
00:06:08.000 Yes, but I'm going to tell you, it's vaporizing quickly, quickly. 0.66
00:06:13.000 So millennials now, the oldest of us are getting into their 40s.
00:06:19.000 Remember, most of the young people weren't thinking, when we're saying young people, like the people in this poll, mostly they're Gen Z. With millennial women, we're getting older.
00:06:28.000 And then those of us who purposefully chose a path, no marriage, no kids, pursue the job opportunities first, career first, we're all realizing that a lot of our unhappiness is stemming from that. 0.52
00:06:42.000 And so that whole facade of this is what's going to make you happy is girl boss culture is completely evaporating. 0.65
00:06:50.000 And so we're waking up and because of that, a lot of Gen Z women are starting to wake up. 0.99
00:06:56.000 It's coming. 1.00
00:06:56.000 It's just, it's slow. 1.00
00:06:57.000 Yeah.
00:06:58.000 So 90% of women in their early 30s vote Democrat. 1.00
00:07:03.000 Correct. 0.61
00:07:04.000 Why do you think that is?
00:07:05.000 The emotionality is they do feel like feelings matter over facts.
00:07:12.000 Everything hurts their feelings.
00:07:14.000 They're more compassionate.
00:07:16.000 So they're fragile.
00:07:17.000 They care about people.
00:07:18.000 They want to help people.
00:07:20.000 They don't realize that the talking points, that the strategies they have been spoon-fed their entire life doesn't work.
00:07:28.000 And so that's what they're holding on to is like, well, I have to be a Democrat.
00:07:32.000 I have to vote Democrat because I'm helping others.
00:07:34.000 They don't realize that conservatives want the same thing.
00:07:37.000 Our ways of achieving that are just more effective.
00:07:40.000 I mean, we can see that when you just compare Trump's presidency to Joe Biden's presidency so far, you can see that in action, the evidence.
00:07:50.000 Yeah.
00:07:50.000 No, I don't really have any patience for this, to be honest.
00:07:56.000 Like women. 1.00
00:07:57.000 But then what? 1.00
00:07:58.000 You're just going to give up. 0.99
00:07:59.000 Well, because the whole society is feminized, right? 0.97
00:08:02.000 It's all about feelings, my narcissism, myself. 1.00
00:08:05.000 We can't govern a society that way.
00:08:07.000 So do we pander to that?
00:08:09.000 No, because here's what I think.
00:08:11.000 It's going to weed itself out.
00:08:13.000 So the left, they're basically causing themselves to go extinct.
00:08:18.000 They're all eunuchs. 1.00
00:08:20.000 They're aborting their offspring. 0.99
00:08:22.000 So there's not going to be as many of them.
00:08:24.000 Meanwhile, young conservatives are getting married.
00:08:27.000 We're having more kids.
00:08:29.000 That's going to be the next generation. 0.92
00:08:31.000 So I think. 1.00
00:08:32.000 But young ladies aren't getting married, Alex. 0.99
00:08:34.000 They're the most single generation.
00:08:36.000 Neither are young men, Charlie, because over 62% of men, 18 to 29, have left the dating pool entirely.
00:08:44.000 They're not hooking up.
00:08:45.000 They're not dating, and they're not getting married.
00:08:47.000 So you have two huge camps. 0.97
00:08:49.000 We see this one poll, and we think only women are the problem.
00:08:53.000 We are a huge part of the problem.
00:08:56.000 But there is a massive movement amongst the right, men on the right, that are saying, all of this is rigged.
00:09:03.000 I don't care about this.
00:09:04.000 So I'm not even going to attempt to date even like-minded women.
00:09:08.000 And that's happening with conservatives too.
00:09:11.000 Yeah, I hear that.
00:09:11.000 Yeah, most people think that dating isn't worth it or married.
00:09:15.000 Not most people.
00:09:15.000 A lot of people are increasingly thinking marriage and dating isn't worth it.
00:09:18.000 So part of the poll is they say that young ladies who say that 53% of men who say they refuse to see the Barbie movie is a red flag.
00:09:27.000 Because they saw it as a feminist, some kind of feminist cry. 0.98
00:09:31.000 And so if a guy didn't want to see the Barbie movie, he must have not been feminist. 1.00
00:09:35.000 But I was the first one to say, I was one of the first people to say this summer that I thought the Barbie movie was anti-feminist.
00:09:41.000 So, you know, I would disagree with that. 0.90
00:09:43.000 I will say one of the more promising parts of this, women are okay if men own guns. 1.00
00:09:49.000 Because we want to feel protected.
00:09:51.000 And this is where their ideology falls apart.
00:09:52.000 It starts to fall apart.
00:09:53.000 It starts to fall apart because we have these innate wants as a biological woman that you can't deny.
00:09:59.000 Feminism suppresses them and then they just medicate themselves with wine and Xanax.
00:10:03.000 Yeah, they're medicating themselves.
00:10:05.000 And that's the other thing is that we're told you have a chemical imbalance, which doesn't exist.
00:10:11.000 That's not a real thing.
00:10:12.000 Zero scientific proof of that or evidence.
00:10:14.000 You can't test for it.
00:10:15.000 That's not a thing.
00:10:16.000 There's no such thing as a chemical imbalance. 0.99
00:10:18.000 So all these women are getting on pills to fix a fake problem that causes other problems. 1.00
00:10:23.000 Then we're told to medicate for those things. 0.98
00:10:26.000 So we are on, young people are on more medications than we've ever been on in history.
00:10:33.000 And that's a whole nother thing, you know, causing psychosis.
00:10:37.000 Benzodiazepins and Xanax and Zolof and Prozac.
00:10:40.000 It's the most medicated generation in history.
00:10:42.000 So help me understand, Alex, and I mean this sincerely, how are we supposed to compete on emotional terms with the left if they do it so nakedly and pander to it?
00:10:55.000 So one thing that I've been doing with the spillover recently is really diving deep into the specific lies that we were promised by feminism that have not panned out because they have had over 50 years to do their little experiment on us and the evidence really falls in our favor.
00:11:12.000 So that whole idea of put your career first above a family, that's where you're going to find your fulfillment.
00:11:19.000 Put your kids in daycare.
00:11:20.000 That'll be fine.
00:11:21.000 There's going to be no adverse effect on that on you or your baby.
00:11:25.000 Birth control is better for you.
00:11:27.000 Birth control, daycare, all these things, these are points. 1.00
00:11:30.000 It creates depressed women. 1.00
00:11:31.000 It creates depressed women, but these are all points that the left agrees on.
00:11:36.000 So one thing that I thought was fascinating. 0.73
00:11:37.000 But the left agrees on birth control.
00:11:39.000 No way.
00:11:40.000 Yes, they do.
00:11:40.000 Charlie, listen to this.
00:11:41.000 So our friends at Students for Life, they've been tabling recently on college campuses.
00:11:45.000 And they have been asking things, are you pro-life, pro-toys?
00:11:48.000 You know, all these types of things.
00:11:49.000 They all, they all pro-choice, pro-choice.
00:11:51.000 They ask the question: Do you think that birth control has been a positive or a negative for women's health?
00:11:57.000 All of them are in agreement. 0.98
00:11:58.000 Negative for women's health. 1.00
00:11:59.000 How do they keep on taking it then? 1.00
00:12:01.000 We're not.
00:12:01.000 Yes, Alex, yes, they are.
00:12:03.000 Charlie, Gen Z is ditching the birth control for the first time. 0.92
00:12:06.000 Women are ditching the birth control pill. 0.99
00:12:08.000 15%, 20%.
00:12:10.000 I don't know the stat off the top of my head, but in droves because they're realizing this was a lie.
00:12:15.000 So what I'm telling you is when you realize that this was a lie that the medical establishment told us would make our lives better as women, well, this isn't true.
00:12:23.000 How many other things haven't been true?
00:12:26.000 Abortion, all these other things.
00:12:27.000 So your eyes become open.
00:12:29.000 So it is a slow process, but little things, the veil is being lifted slowly but surely.
00:12:37.000 But it's going to take time.
00:12:38.000 This is going to be the hardest battle that conservatives have to fight with the young generation.
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00:13:45.000 So effectively, 76% of young women say that if you identify as MAGA Republican, I want nothing to do with you.
00:13:51.000 But conservative is a lot less.
00:13:52.000 So I guess they look at MAGA Republican and conservative as two different things.
00:13:57.000 But they're saying that 54%, they say we don't.
00:14:00.000 I guess that number isn't as bad as it could be, right?
00:14:03.000 But the All Lives Matter one is really terrible. 1.00
00:14:06.000 Two genders. 1.00
00:14:07.000 So you got to explain this to me, Alex. 0.72
00:14:09.000 Why do women, why do so many women, not you, put up with the trans thing? 1.00
00:14:13.000 What is that all about?
00:14:14.000 Because we're told that you're a bad person if you don't support it.
00:14:17.000 And what did I say a few minutes ago?
00:14:19.000 Women are so deeply emotional.
00:14:22.000 And all we care about is are we going to be perceived as kind and compassionate? 0.58
00:14:26.000 So when you tell us, if you do not let this child mutilate themselves, you're a terrible person.
00:14:31.000 You don't care about kids. 0.68
00:14:32.000 You don't care about people that are less fortunate and have all these mental health struggles.
00:14:37.000 We feel terrible and guilty about that. 0.86
00:14:40.000 But, you know, nobody is explaining to these young women that the stats show after four years of transitioning, all these kids want to detransition.
00:14:47.000 But Alex, that's a stat. 0.72
00:14:48.000 I thought you said women don't care about facts. 1.00
00:14:50.000 They don't. 1.00
00:14:50.000 So it takes. 1.00
00:14:51.000 I got to tell me, how do I talk to a woman? 1.00
00:14:53.000 So you start the conversation.
00:14:54.000 You say, this is how you would start the sentence.
00:14:56.000 You'd say, I know that you care about kids who are struggling with their gender identity.
00:15:00.000 I do too.
00:15:02.000 And because I care, blah, You have to start with sentences like that. 0.99
00:15:06.000 It sounds dumb. 1.00
00:15:07.000 It sounds like this has taken a long time to get to the point, but that's how women work. 1.00
00:15:11.000 So you have to appeal to that first.
00:15:12.000 Just like when they're talking about abortion, you don't start and say, well, you know, less than 1% of abortions are because of rape.
00:15:18.000 You don't start with that.
00:15:18.000 You go, I deeply care about women in crisis pregnancy so much.
00:15:22.000 It's a terrible thing.
00:15:23.000 It's so pandering and fake. 1.00
00:15:25.000 So women like that. 1.00
00:15:25.000 It's not fake. 1.00
00:15:26.000 We do care.
00:15:27.000 We just like to get to the point because that's how conservatives' brains work.
00:15:29.000 You know, they're having.
00:15:31.000 But we don't like lying.
00:15:32.000 It's not lying.
00:15:33.000 You're telling the truth.
00:15:34.000 It's just taking a longer time to get there. 1.00
00:15:36.000 And I'm saying that actually works with women. 1.00
00:15:39.000 They are more likely to listen to your point if you start your sentences off that way.
00:15:43.000 Just try it.
00:15:44.000 The next school you go to and you table, when it's an angry leftist chick that comes up and starts yelling at you, just try this.
00:15:50.000 Just try this strategy and tell me.
00:15:52.000 No, you're right.
00:15:52.000 I'm just, I struggle with, do we really have to sanitize our language to pander to people's like hyper-emotionality so much?
00:16:00.000 Unfortunately, yes.
00:16:01.000 Okay.
00:16:01.000 All right.
00:16:02.000 Let me remind you of something that you did.
00:16:04.000 Please. 0.52
00:16:05.000 There is a very viral clip of you of some trans person coming up to you and saying like, hey, they didn't come up, guns a blazing, so I think this helped.
00:16:14.000 But they were like, so I transitioned as a kid and I'm starting to wonder if I made the right choice or whatever.
00:16:18.000 You had a very calm, thoughtful, you took your time approach telling them. 1.00
00:16:22.000 So that works with women. 1.00
00:16:23.000 And that video of yours has millions and millions and millions of views, not because it was a quick gotcha thing.
00:16:29.000 Sure.
00:16:30.000 It was because they saw the compassion.
00:16:32.000 Yeah.
00:16:33.000 So I hear that.
00:16:34.000 So what do Republicans and or I say that you cringe when you say that's going to turn off women? 0.77
00:16:41.000 When you hear it, it's like the most cringe.
00:16:46.000 I mean, probably.
00:16:47.000 I hate to put you on the spot, but just like one-liners that you don't like the facts, don't care about your feelings thing.
00:16:50.000 Yeah, I don't like facts, don't care about your feelings.
00:16:52.000 I don't like when you immediately go into statistics about abortion.
00:16:55.000 I don't think that helps.
00:16:56.000 And by the way, I'm the most pro-life, far-right person ever.
00:16:59.000 I'm not questioning your bona family on that.
00:17:00.000 It's not that, but I'm just saying what works.
00:17:02.000 And appealing to things having to do with our roles, our purposes, women, and you've been sold a lie that you can have it all because that's the biggest thing right now that's working with women. 0.74
00:17:16.000 So I wish we would say that more.
00:17:18.000 Isn't part of it they just don't want to listen to a man?
00:17:21.000 Yes.
00:17:22.000 Yes.
00:17:23.000 That is part of it.
00:17:24.000 So it helps if you have a girl tabling with you at these schools, I think.
00:17:28.000 Yeah.
00:17:29.000 No, I mean, yesterday, literally every person that was listening and or debating was all men.
00:17:35.000 And what was their biggest problem with conservatism?
00:17:38.000 Well, the liberal men, they obviously suffer from low testosterone and, you know, have been very damaged by, you know, pharmacological agents, not right now.
00:17:45.000 Let me ask you something.
00:17:46.000 Do you think most of those liberal men that came up to you screaming, do you think most of them were on the spectrum?
00:17:50.000 Oh, I'd say almost all of them, yeah.
00:17:52.000 Because that's another fascinating thing.
00:17:54.000 Most of these kids that are transitioning, claiming they're transgender, all this.
00:17:57.000 They suffer from autism in some way. 0.96
00:17:59.000 They weaponize autism sometimes for the trans movement, unfortunately. 0.86
00:18:02.000 Very sad.
00:18:03.000 Yeah.
00:18:03.000 No, but there were some young ladies there, but the young ladies that were there were super trad con, like very Christian, wanted a husband, you know, very politely dressed.
00:18:13.000 Yeah.
00:18:14.000 You know what I mean?
00:18:15.000 And then the women who hate me were nearly aesthetically indecipherable from men, right?
00:18:20.000 And or they were dressed like total OnlyFan types, right?
00:18:24.000 Very little clothes.
00:18:26.000 Really, you know, they don't want anything to do with me.
00:18:29.000 They want me to affirm their lifestyle, which I'm not going to do.
00:18:33.000 And yeah, I don't think you need to.
00:18:34.000 I'm not saying you need to affirm.
00:18:35.000 I'm just saying.
00:18:36.000 I do want to ask, you know, do we have to go as so far to affirm behavior?
00:18:41.000 Because that's the other thing I find a trouble with.
00:18:45.000 No, we don't need to affirm behavior.
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00:19:51.000 So a young lady comes up very angry and says, I want to have as much sex as possible. 0.99
00:19:56.000 Who are you to tell me I shouldn't? 0.88
00:19:57.000 I can't, blah, And she's like, that's why I want abortion and all this.
00:20:02.000 And it's a lot of, you're judging me.
00:20:04.000 You're telling me I can't.
00:20:04.000 You know the type.
00:20:06.000 They don't want to hear from me, obviously.
00:20:07.000 And you want to know what I would say?
00:20:08.000 Okay. 0.98
00:20:09.000 I would say, I'm not telling you that you can't have a lot of sex.
00:20:12.000 I am telling you to acknowledge that when you have sex, when you participate in this act, there is a known consequence.
00:20:21.000 And I'm asking you to accept that that is always a possibility.
00:20:25.000 When you go to a vending machine at a hotel and you click the Coke button, you are acknowledging that more than likely something is going to come out.
00:20:36.000 When you have sex, you are pushing that button on the vending machine, knowing a baby could come out.
00:20:42.000 So if you know that, you are actively, you are saying, I agree to this risk of this behavior. 0.70
00:20:50.000 I'm going to do it anyway.
00:20:52.000 Now that we know that this is a possibility, then you get into personhood and all of those different types of things.
00:20:58.000 But you tell them that. 0.85
00:20:59.000 I'm not telling you, you can have all the sex you want. 0.98
00:21:01.000 But then are you prepared? 0.97
00:21:02.000 Are you okay with having all the babies that you want?
00:21:04.000 Well, no, I'm not.
00:21:05.000 Okay, why is that?
00:21:05.000 Because it's not a person.
00:21:06.000 Okay, let's talk about if it's a person or not.
00:21:08.000 Then you go into all those things.
00:21:10.000 Okay.
00:21:10.000 Yeah, I see that.
00:21:14.000 But wouldn't it be better to tell the young woman that having as much sex as you want is bad for her? 0.99
00:21:18.000 Yeah, you can go into like the emotional damage.
00:21:20.000 No, you can go into all that kind of stuff.
00:21:22.000 Like, well, what would you say about, you know, the rates of depression, the statistic that couples who engaged in a lot of premarital sex before they're married are more likely to get divorced than couples who waited till they were married?
00:21:35.000 You know, all of those different types of things.
00:21:36.000 You can start bringing that up.
00:21:38.000 But the first thing I would do is I would clarify their concern, which is, so you're telling me I can't have sex.
00:21:44.000 No, I'm not.
00:21:45.000 I'm not telling you.
00:21:46.000 But I am going to tell you what the risks are that are involved.
00:21:49.000 Right. 0.76
00:21:50.000 You are so, you just, you want to give up on the women. 0.99
00:21:53.000 No, I just think we should be like, stop acting like a hooker. 0.99
00:21:58.000 Okay.
00:21:58.000 Well, you have, you guys have been doing that and it, and now see where we're at is the problem.
00:22:04.000 So I'm telling you, just change the tone a little bit and let's just see in the next five years if it helps.
00:22:10.000 I mean, maybe not.
00:22:11.000 Yeah.
00:22:12.000 Yeah.
00:22:12.000 No, I hear you.
00:22:14.000 So let's talk about the other topic I didn't want to get to that we didn't get to.
00:22:18.000 What do young ladies want to see in men the most that they're not seeing?
00:22:23.000 Clarity.
00:22:25.000 You should tell her immediately where you see the relationship going.
00:22:31.000 If you're interested in a relationship, if you're not interested, if you are looking for marriage, if you're looking for something casual, you should say that from the get-go.
00:22:40.000 And also, I believe you should be having the conversations about religion, politics, those types of views before the first date.
00:22:49.000 So before you even go, before you even drive to the restaurant or the bar to have one drink or coffee shop, whatever you're doing, you should have those conversations first.
00:22:58.000 So you don't, neither of you waste your time.
00:23:01.000 For many, many years, we were told it's taboo.
00:23:04.000 Don't talk about this kind of stuff on a first date.
00:23:05.000 And now it's so unbelievably important.
00:23:08.000 And we're so polarized as a culture.
00:23:09.000 I think we have to talk about it before the first date.
00:23:12.000 So they want clarity.
00:23:14.000 So let me ask you, do young ladies that you speak to that are single, do they complain that young men are too masculine or at least fake masculine or acting too feminine?
00:23:26.000 I mean, are you asking generally?
00:23:29.000 Generally, so not necessarily conservative.
00:23:31.000 Your audience that you know very well, right?
00:23:34.000 My audience wants them to be more masculine.
00:23:37.000 And my audience, the single women in my audience, myself included, feel like we are all ready.
00:23:44.000 We're all saying, like, hey, we want this.
00:23:46.000 We have a whole plan.
00:23:46.000 Like, you know what I mean?
00:23:48.000 We're ready for this next phase of life.
00:23:49.000 And it's the men who are, well, I'm not ready yet.
00:23:52.000 I don't make enough money.
00:23:53.000 I don't make enough salary to raise a family.
00:23:55.000 All of these types of cultural problems that have been ingrained in men of how you can't become a husband because blank.
00:24:02.000 You can't become a dad because blank.
00:24:04.000 So that's a whole nother hurdle that we have to approach with young men.
00:24:08.000 They think that they cannot have a family if they don't make at least six figures.
00:24:12.000 Most, all men, like most men.
00:24:14.000 Majority, including young conservatives.
00:24:17.000 I'll trust you on that. 0.92
00:24:18.000 So, but young ladies are saying when I'm dating a man, the thing that is the most concerning and or the relationship ender is that they're just, they're not as serious. 0.89
00:24:18.000 Yeah. 0.89
00:24:32.000 They're not, they don't take, they're not dating with the intent to marry.
00:24:34.000 Yeah, there's no intent there, but then there's no direction.
00:24:37.000 There's no leading.
00:24:38.000 The guys aren't leading.
00:24:39.000 It's the girls saying, well, what are we?
00:24:41.000 Where is this going?
00:24:43.000 And so I think a lot of young women are saying, I just wish a guy told me from the get-go.
00:24:47.000 I mean, you did this with Erica.
00:24:48.000 You, on the first meeting or whatever, was like, I'm going to date you.
00:24:52.000 Wait, so let me understand.
00:24:53.000 Let me let me challenge you.
00:24:54.000 Sorry to interrupt.
00:24:55.000 So the audience you deal with want men to be assertive, logical, and lead, but we shouldn't do that in our politics.
00:25:05.000 Unfortunately, that is true.
00:25:07.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:25:08.000 Make that make sense.
00:25:10.000 Because you're talking about a personal relationship versus just like a stranger you don't know.
00:25:14.000 So how much more receptive are you when you have rapport with somebody, you feel like you know them for them to tell you something that's going to shake your worldview?
00:25:21.000 A stranger on the street, you know, you essentially are a stranger on the street when you're tabling and these kids have never talked to you before.
00:25:27.000 You being like, this is bad, like immediately they're not receptive.
00:25:30.000 But if you're in a relationship with someone you like, someone you've established that much, those girls are a little bit more likely to be okay with you saying, this is where this is going.
00:25:40.000 These are my intentions with you, et cetera.
00:25:43.000 Macro and micro then.
00:25:44.000 Do you see where the disconnect is? 0.88
00:25:46.000 Because what I hear from young ladies is similar.
00:25:48.000 I want a man to be a man.
00:25:49.000 I want him to be loyal.
00:25:51.000 I want him to be productive and protective, right?
00:25:55.000 Self-control.
00:25:57.000 And I'd say, well, why don't you want that in your politics then?
00:26:00.000 Why won't you, if you want the man to lead the household, why don't you want the man to lead the political party?
00:26:05.000 That's a great point.
00:26:06.000 That's where I'm confused.
00:26:08.000 I think you have raised very valid questions that we have to say.
00:26:12.000 No, I'm not even, I'm just, I'm like asking for insight here.
00:26:16.000 Okay, Alex, any final thoughts you want to make on this?
00:26:20.000 Plug the podcast again.
00:26:21.000 The spillover with Alex Clark.
00:26:21.000 All right.
00:26:23.000 You can find it anywhere.
00:26:24.000 You get your podcast, Real Ex Clark on YouTube.
00:26:26.000 And we talk a lot about this and women's roles and, you know, what a biblical role for women should look like and interesting conversations with a new guest every single Friday. 0.75
00:26:37.000 And look, as much as we pick on women because they deserve it, men are a disaster, right? 0.90
00:26:37.000 Yeah. 0.90
00:26:42.000 They don't have issues. 0.99
00:26:43.000 Men are watching too much porn. 0.91
00:26:44.000 They should watch no porn, right? 1.00
00:26:46.000 They should save themselves from marriage and go on a freaking adventure and do something. 0.99
00:26:50.000 You know, stop acting like a pig and be someone worthy of marrying. 0.99
00:26:54.000 I think, and that's the best advice for both men and women. 0.99
00:26:57.000 It's hard and produce. 0.97
00:26:59.000 So, I mean, what comes first, I will say, my personal opinion, the institutions are creating unhappy women and they're not helping men.
00:27:10.000 But if men really had their act together, they could rescue a lot of these young ladies from these institutions.
00:27:15.000 Yeah, both men and women don't go to college, learn life skills, learn how to do laundry, learn how to iron, learn how to cook, develop a Develop a deep relationship with Christ, get plugged into a church community, start learning about things like birth and motherhood and parenting and education, homeschooling.
00:27:40.000 Yeah, vaccines.
00:27:40.000 Start looking into all of this in your single season.
00:27:44.000 This is why people are like, well, why do you talk about this, Alex?
00:27:46.000 Because you're not married yet.
00:27:47.000 God willing, that will happen.
00:27:48.000 But in this season of my life, then I'm focusing on these things and I am doing everything I can to prepare and become the person that is worth marrying. 0.85
00:27:57.000 Do you think that it is generally true that if young women did those things, they'd become more conservative. 0.78
00:28:08.000 Absolutely. 0.55
00:28:09.000 Because when you're doing those things, you are living exactly as God's design for us.
00:28:15.000 And so you will not be able to deny that God is real.
00:28:19.000 And therefore, once you believe in that, naturally, conservatism is going to come with that.
00:28:24.000 The emails that we have received already are, oh, thousands.
00:28:29.000 Right now?
00:28:30.000 Of course.
00:28:30.000 Alex, we're live.
00:28:34.000 What do you think this is?
00:28:34.000 I just didn't know that many would happen in a few minutes.
00:28:37.000 Oh, no.
00:28:38.000 By the way, they're hilarious.
00:28:39.000 The women and the men emails, the men can't stand what you're saying.
00:28:43.000 The men are like, oh, logic is the only thing.
00:28:45.000 And the women are like, Charlie, come on, you have to understand.
00:28:49.000 It's fascinating.
00:28:50.000 I love male and female differences.
00:28:52.000 Alex, this was great. 0.69
00:28:53.000 Yes, final thought. 0.69
00:28:54.000 We are in the biggest battle of the sexes movement since the 70s. 0.66
00:28:58.000 Take it seriously. 0.81
00:29:00.000 Take it seriously because we are losing both young men on the right, not because of their political views, because of their culture, relationship views, but we are losing young women to political views.
00:29:13.000 Yeah, we need to rescue both.
00:29:14.000 The men, I'm actually optimistic.
00:29:17.000 I really am.
00:29:17.000 I think that they're starting to get their act together.
00:29:19.000 There's some really good stuff happening. 0.89
00:29:21.000 Tell Charlie to go on the whatever podcast to talk to the red pill men for me. 0.88
00:29:24.000 Should I do that, Alex? 1.00
00:29:26.000 Yes.
00:29:26.000 It would be the best thing for you.
00:29:29.000 It's not the red pill the way that I think of it. 0.98
00:29:32.000 It's this kind of like hedonist King Solomon thing, like have sex with everything that moves type thing. 0.99
00:29:37.000 Have sex with everything that moves if you're a man. 0.99
00:29:39.000 Get vasectomy so that you don't procreate and then don't get married. 0.99
00:29:43.000 This is so red pill has a double meaning.
00:29:45.000 So red pill is no longer conservatism.
00:29:47.000 Red pill is now when you start seeing guys online, when you start seeing guys online saying things like, I've been red pilled recently, they're talking about I'm totally disenfranchised with romantic relationships and women.
00:29:59.000 Who changed that?
00:30:00.000 I'm so confused.
00:30:02.000 Well, partly us, the women, liberal women driving them away, the Me Too movement, the family court.
00:30:10.000 No, no, no.
00:30:11.000 I mean the term.
00:30:12.000 I don't understand how the term is.
00:30:14.000 I guess some YouTubers.
00:30:17.000 This individual on whatever is have as much pleasure as possible, but no responsibility.
00:30:22.000 I'm just trying to understand the host and then the audience of the whatever podcast.
00:30:26.000 Yeah.
00:30:26.000 So they bring, you know, you know the podcast because they have viral clips of them like dogging on OnlyFans chicks and leftists.
00:30:32.000 But the male audience, I would say most of them identify as libertarian or conservative.
00:30:37.000 However, none of them are in the dating pool.
00:30:39.000 So you would imagine I would have something to offer as someone who's had a child to tell them how important that is.
00:30:45.000 I think it would be invaluable.
00:30:47.000 Like it absolutely needs to happen.
00:30:48.000 And for some men, that's interesting.
00:30:49.000 So I would go in there with the intent.
00:30:52.000 With the intent to break through to the male audience and don't worry about clowning on the leftist chicks on the podcast with you as much.
00:31:01.000 Do a little bit of that because it's fun.
00:31:02.000 Yeah.
00:31:03.000 But also really get through to the host and the I could talk to men.
00:31:06.000 I know how to talk to you.
00:31:07.000 Well, that's what I'm saying.
00:31:08.000 So I think that's the thing.
00:31:08.000 You could be savage to men.
00:31:10.000 Men is, that's easy.
00:31:12.000 I think that's what you should do.
00:31:14.000 Women is an ongoing. 0.93
00:31:17.000 Accept the invitation to go on and go on with that idea in mind.
00:31:22.000 Very good.
00:31:23.000 Alex Clark is special, everybody.
00:31:24.000 Check out her podcast.
00:31:26.000 Subscribe, and thank you for the candid emails.
00:31:28.000 All right, thanks.
00:31:29.000 Appreciate it.
00:31:30.000 Thank you.
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