The Charlie Kirk Show - Smashing the Soros DAs with CCDF-USA's Steve Maxwell and Jonathan Hullihan

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, today Charlie Kirk Show, Andy Biggs joins us for an update on the debt ceiling.

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00:01:08.000 There is a critical fight that is looming in Congress.

00:01:12.000 In fact, it's happening right now.

00:01:13.000 I'm going to read from Politico.com.

00:01:16.000 Senate Republicans tell the House the debt ceiling fight is on you.

00:01:21.000 Basically, the Senate Republicans are doing what they do best, which is to run to the hills and do absolutely nothing.

00:01:27.000 So this is on the new House of Representatives to fight, to hold the line, and hopefully use the debt ceiling fight as a way to get and effectuate some meaningful change.

00:01:39.000 Joining us now from the great state of Arizona is Andy Biggs.

00:01:42.000 Andy, welcome back to the program.

00:01:44.000 Hey, Charlie, good to be with you.

00:01:45.000 So Andy, walk us through what is exactly going on with the debt ceiling fight.

00:01:50.000 The Senate wants nothing to do with it, but we have the majority.

00:01:54.000 And more specifically, the House Freedom Caucus has really more power than ever before.

00:02:00.000 So what's the strategy?

00:02:01.000 What's the game plan of this critical fight?

00:02:04.000 Okay, so for people who don't understand this, the debt ceiling hit last week, and that's an estimation that we were going to run out of money.

00:02:12.000 Now, the way that happens is that came on the 19th.

00:02:15.000 And then from the 19th for about till July or August, we have enough money, but we have enough, we're going to take some special measures to get us through that.

00:02:26.000 But before then, we're going to have to raise the debt ceiling so we don't default on our loans.

00:02:32.000 So that's what it boils down to.

00:02:36.000 The problem is the Democrats and some of my own Republican friends have spent this into oblivion to get there.

00:02:43.000 And they believe in something called the modern monetary theory, Charlie, which means that you can just keep printing money and it won't have any effects.

00:02:49.000 In other words, you can just keep borrowing money.

00:02:51.000 So what we need to do is to counterbalance that, you're going to have to have a short-term increase in your debt in order to pay off all of your loans and other obligations, but you're going to have to reduce your spending.

00:03:06.000 And the way you reduce your spending is you go through, first of all, and you find anything, just like you would in a normal budget.

00:03:13.000 I did it last week.

00:03:14.000 I didn't realize I had so many Amazon channels, Amazon Prime channels, Charlie.

00:03:19.000 And so I went through and I just started whacking them because it's crazy.

00:03:23.000 You have to do the same thing at a bigger level.

00:03:25.000 So the first step we did is the House passed.

00:03:29.000 It's not through yet, but the House passed the $80 billion elimination of the IRS agents.

00:03:35.000 That's step one.

00:03:35.000 So you go through and do all these things.

00:03:37.000 It may be the woke drag queen program down in Ecuador that costs State Department $3.5 to $5 million. 0.95

00:03:44.000 The DOD waste supposedly $100 billion a year, and they could streamline and fix that. 0.99

00:03:51.000 So you go through and identify and you start whacking that stuff out to reduce spending.

00:03:56.000 And why is that?

00:03:57.000 Because an example is in December, Charlie, we spent $82 billion more than we brought in in revenue.

00:04:06.000 And we need to start reducing spending in order to balance our budget so that this generation and future generations knows that the federal government is going to be fiscally responsible and pay our debts and pay our obligations, but also reduce the size, scope, shape of government.

00:04:25.000 So how likely is it to get to some of the meatier topics?

00:04:28.000 Because I agree, and I know you do.

00:04:31.000 You want to get to the real meat of it.

00:04:32.000 But, you know, the woke stuff, obviously, I think is important for a variety of reasons.

00:04:37.000 But the real meat is in sending the money to Ukraine.

00:04:41.000 It's the massive amount of waste in the civil bureaucracies, like the 87,000 IRS agents.

00:04:47.000 And so what is the plan or the strategy to be able to kind of go through this?

00:04:53.000 I mean, I think we should entertain a government shutdown.

00:04:56.000 I think it's that important, but I don't know if the shutdown actually is part of this, right?

00:05:00.000 This is a separate issue because this is about just the full faith and credit of the United States.

00:05:05.000 Is that correct?

00:05:06.000 Yeah, this doesn't really ultimately lend itself to a budget, a government shutdown.

00:05:12.000 What it does is it provides leverage.

00:05:14.000 And Charlie, I'm a big believer that legislating involves leverage.

00:05:18.000 This is a leverage point for us to reduce spending.

00:05:22.000 So you're right.

00:05:23.000 Last year, most people don't realize this.

00:05:25.000 We sent $125 billion to Ukraine.

00:05:29.000 Charlie, $125 billion to Ukraine in an undeclared war that we're not supposed to be fighting in.

00:05:35.000 And it's supposed to be a proxy and it's become a proxy war.

00:05:38.000 Those are the type of things that are just outrageous.

00:05:40.000 And there's so much of it there.

00:05:42.000 My staff, last year we put together a big list just on Department of Homeland Security alone.

00:05:50.000 And this is where you need to go as the start.

00:05:53.000 It's the easy.

00:05:54.000 It's what I call it's the low-hanging fruit.

00:05:57.000 But Charlie, we fight within our own party.

00:06:00.000 I once had a bill to eliminate a $15, $20 million program that was, everybody admitted, was duplicated in two other agencies.

00:06:09.000 And I couldn't even get it out of committee.

00:06:11.000 I only had like four or five Republicans vote for it in committee.

00:06:15.000 That's what we're up against, Charlie.

00:06:17.000 And that's why this is an important leverage point if we're ever going to get back on a fiscal path of sustainability.

00:06:25.000 So how do we get the Senate Republicans to not punt?

00:06:28.000 I mean, here's the story. 0.98

00:06:31.000 They're so worthless, so many of them.

00:06:32.000 Some are great. 0.79

00:06:33.000 I mean, JD Vance and Josh Hawley and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are great, but there's so many of them that are just worthless.

00:06:38.000 They say this, a handful of Republican senators say to the House Republicans, the fight is yours.

00:06:43.000 This is politico.

00:06:44.000 Tom Tillis, what really matters is what the House can create.

00:06:47.000 They're in a position.

00:06:48.000 They have the gavels.

00:06:49.000 We have to see what sort of strategy they think works to successful outcome.

00:06:52.000 That's just nonsense.

00:06:53.000 They can work in a partnership with you, right?

00:06:56.000 I mean, come on.

00:06:57.000 This is so typical.

00:06:58.000 This is why people hate the Republican Party.

00:07:00.000 I know you sympathize with some of this.

00:07:03.000 Wouldn't it be nice?

00:07:04.000 I don't know if all 49 Republican senators met with House Republicans and said, no, you're not going to get through any of us.

00:07:13.000 Yeah, no.

00:07:15.000 So just so you know, Charlie, two points on that.

00:07:20.000 I kind of get where Tillis is coming from.

00:07:21.000 He's just throwing up his hands and saying, basically, whatever you guys do in the House, that's where we will be and we'll fight.

00:07:28.000 I hope that's what he's saying, that we'll fight for the...

00:07:30.000 You might be right.

00:07:31.000 I mean, but I'm not exactly right.

00:07:33.000 I'm not going to go out of my way to defend Tom Tillis right now.

00:07:36.000 Yeah, but Charlie, but it gets to the finer point, which is where are these guys?

00:07:42.000 So the other good point is I actually will be sitting down with some senators later today about this very issue.

00:07:48.000 So it's starting to, you know, there are some senators like, I mean, JD Vance is going to be a breath of fresh air, I think.

00:07:56.000 So, I mean, there's going to be some real push in the Senate.

00:07:59.000 So, if they will, if the Senate steering committee, which is the Republican Conservatives, push on this, I think we might get they might have our back, but it won't matter because the House has got to hold.

00:08:12.000 And Kevin, by the way, Kevin has found a backbone, has found grit, and I'm hopeful that he'll be really successful.

00:08:21.000 But he is talking the talk, and I think he's going to walk the walk on this particular issue.

00:08:26.000 I think he's starting to understand leverage is as leverage does.

00:08:30.000 And so, we can actually leverage the debt ceiling to reduce and move this way.

00:08:39.000 And so, so with us doing that, it actually emboldens the Senate, I hope.

00:08:44.000 I mean, but Charlie, you're right.

00:08:45.000 I mean, look, I don't have much hair left.

00:08:47.000 If I did, I'd just pull it all out.

00:08:51.000 Yeah, I mean, just like work in partnership or work in harmony or in tandem, or at least say we're not going to give them the votes to be able to break the filibuster.

00:08:59.000 Is it a filibuster-proof debt ceiling?

00:09:01.000 I can't keep track of their rules.

00:09:04.000 Who knows?

00:09:04.000 Yeah, who knows?

00:09:05.000 But I mean, if you keep 49, you're in better shape.

00:09:08.000 Let's just put it this way: if Mitch McConnell were to say the same thing that McCarthy is saying, that there has to be meaningful reductions in spending, guess what there would be?

00:09:19.000 There would be meaningful reductions in spending.

00:09:22.000 Exactly.

00:09:22.000 I mean, by the way, the Democrats, they work in complete harmony.

00:09:28.000 Schumer, when Pelosi was speaker, they would always just say, what?

00:09:32.000 They meet and then they have their conferences.

00:09:35.000 You read this politico article.

00:09:37.000 I mean, you got Tom Tillis over here.

00:09:41.000 You got Susan Collins.

00:09:43.000 You got Kevin Kramer. 0.98

00:09:45.000 I mean, it's a clown show. 0.91

00:09:48.000 I mean, everyone's saying their own thing. 0.93

00:09:50.000 No one controls anybody.

00:09:52.000 And I guess in some ways that's good.

00:09:53.000 In other ways, it's just really frustrating because we finally have one branch of the legislative, right?

00:09:59.000 Not one branch.

00:10:00.000 We have one aspect of the legislative branch.

00:10:02.000 So, Andy, any closing thoughts on the debt ceiling fight?

00:10:04.000 I mean, how do you see this playing out?

00:10:07.000 I mean, I could see that they're already fear-mongering.

00:10:09.000 CNN saying experts say that the full faith in credit of the United States, but it's the opposite.

00:10:14.000 The opposite is that if you keep on raising the debt ceiling without spending concessions, then that actually will obliterate the full faith in credit of the United States.

00:10:23.000 That's exactly right.

00:10:24.000 You're heading to a bankrupt, a potential bankruptcy in the future.

00:10:28.000 I mean, we're talking adding $15 trillion in national debt if we don't start reducing spending over the next seven to eight years.

00:10:38.000 Charlie, that's unsustainable.

00:10:40.000 You saw Greece collapse under an enormous national debt, and we're moving up into the same ratios of debt to GDP, gross domestic product.

00:10:51.000 And when that happens, you're in trouble.

00:10:53.000 And so for us, it is now the time to start moving towards a balanced budget.

00:11:00.000 And you do that by reducing spending.

00:11:02.000 And you take the low-hanging fruit and you do that immediately.

00:11:05.000 I think that spending is becoming a top political issue for people.

00:11:09.000 I mean, it kind of went, it was really in focus for years and then out of focus.

00:11:13.000 I mean, we are suffering the consequences of massive deficit spending.

00:11:18.000 As you say, it's a byproduct of modern monetary theory, which is just nonsense.

00:11:23.000 I want to talk about the border, Andy.

00:11:25.000 The border remains completely and totally wide open.

00:11:28.000 We're being invaded on basically a daily basis.

00:11:32.000 Have we seen any improvement or any changes from the Biden regime since the new house has taken over?

00:11:39.000 Or are we really going to have to, we're going to have to really force the issue?

00:11:43.000 Well, we're going to have to force the issue.

00:11:45.000 There's a couple of things that are happening where the Biden administration is going to claim victory.

00:11:52.000 And what they're doing, instead of actually stopping illegal immigration, they're going to set up and they're working, and this has been going on for several months.

00:12:01.000 They're setting up centers south of the border where people are going to be waiting, and they're going to funnel them in through ports of entry to declare there.

00:12:10.000 And what they're going to do to declare asylum and try to enter that way, what they're going to do is they're going to stop or not stop.

00:12:17.000 They're going to reduce to some degree the between port of entry illegal entries.

00:12:24.000 So what you're going to get is instead of saying, well, you know, in Yuma, they're getting 1,000 or 1,500 people a day, they're going to funnel some of those people to the port of San Luis and say, well, look, we took it down to 600 people a day in Yuma.

00:12:39.000 Isn't aren't we wonderful?

00:12:41.000 But in the meantime, everybody's going to be funneled through the ports of entry and they're going to divert the attention that way.

00:12:46.000 That's one of their schemes that they're putting in place.

00:12:50.000 The other thing is that a lot of people don't realize this.

00:12:52.000 They have now put up an app for illegal aliens who are coming over who can pre-register so they can get processed sooner and released into the United States sooner.

00:13:02.000 And that goes part and parcel with this massive parole program that Alejandro Mayorkas has put in place, 300,000, over 300,000 last year, and 30,000, up to 30,000 a month from Venezuela, Nicaragua, Haiti, and Cuba going forward.

00:13:22.000 This is all being done.

00:13:24.000 It's not going to change the raw numbers.

00:13:26.000 You're still going to be getting 3 million illegal aliens coming into the country, most being released.

00:13:32.000 What it is, is it's going to try to distract attention so they can change and craft a new narrative.

00:13:37.000 That's what's happening on the border right now, Charlie.

00:13:41.000 And I have to say, you know, if I'm not mistaken, you are on House Oversight.

00:13:45.000 Is that right?

00:13:46.000 Which I'm really thrilled about.

00:13:47.000 Yeah, it's a team of all-stars.

00:13:48.000 It's great.

00:13:50.000 Do you have some plans on House Oversight to get Maorkis in front of you guys?

00:13:54.000 I know committees can be frustrating for people, but can you guys do something?

00:14:00.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:14:01.000 So I'm trying to get him through in front of both judiciary and oversight.

00:14:08.000 I'll be introducing soon my articles of impeachment on Majorkis, which we keep expanding to because he's doing so many things that are what I consider to be high crimes and misdemeanors.

00:14:20.000 But yeah, we need to get him in there.

00:14:22.000 There's just so many scandals in this administration from the classified documents to the weaponization of the DOJ and the FBI.

00:14:32.000 So there's a lot for us to go through in those two committees.

00:14:35.000 We will be working around the clock, Charlie.

00:14:39.000 And I'm happy to say that because it really needs to happen.

00:14:43.000 Yeah, I mean, from Majorkis to Cardona, the Department of Education, oversight, and there's there, you got some real good attack dogs on your committee.

00:14:53.000 It's going to be, it's, it's going to be really fun to watch.

00:14:56.000 And I hope subpoenas start flying because, you know, these people are, they're out of control.

00:15:03.000 Andy Biggs, thank you so much.

00:15:05.000 Thanks, Charlie.

00:15:06.000 Take care.

00:15:06.000 Appreciate it.

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00:16:25.000 Local action, local, local, local, local light, local action.

00:16:30.000 I got to tell you, this is one of the most important organizations in America.

00:16:34.000 It is the County Citizens for Defending Freedom.

00:16:38.000 You guys could check it out.

00:16:39.000 You guys can text Texas in particular to 53445.

00:16:45.000 And we'll talk about that throughout the hour.

00:16:46.000 Joining us now is Steve Maxwell, founder of CCDF USA, and Jonathan Houlihan, Director of Legal Operations for CCDF USA in Texas.

00:16:56.000 Steve and Jonathan, welcome.

00:16:58.000 Steve, why don't you take an opportunity to introduce the organization and what you guys are able to do and the points on the board you're putting up?

00:17:05.000 Very good.

00:17:06.000 Charlie, thank you for having us on today.

00:17:08.000 Yeah, the organization was founded in April of 2021.

00:17:14.000 And the main mission at the national level is to engage the citizens in critical counties in the country and empower them with the tools that they need to go after this apparatus that's really trying to take our country down.

00:17:29.000 So at the local level, they're focused on elections, anything to do with elections, education.

00:17:34.000 We have a faith division and also just follow the money.

00:17:38.000 And then at the national level, we have a legal team, we have a media team, we have information services where we can really do a lot of analytics and analysis to follow where this money's going.

00:17:48.000 And then we have an administration team that helps them with all the administration side of their local county operation.

00:17:54.000 And since we've started, Charlie, it's been, we can only give God credit for the results we've had so far.

00:18:00.000 We're just really getting going, and we're really excited about what we're talking to you about today.

00:18:06.000 And one of the counties you guys are involved in is a county in Texas in Nusis County.

00:18:12.000 Did I say that right?

00:18:13.000 Nueasis County.

00:18:14.000 Nueasis County, yeah, to remove a George Soros-backed district attorney.

00:18:19.000 Jonathan, you're involved in this in the great state of Texas.

00:18:23.000 Walk us through this effort, which is really local focused, but has national implications.

00:18:31.000 Yeah, thanks, Charlie, for having me on.

00:18:34.000 It's a removal statute under not only under the Texas Constitution, but under local government code 87.

00:18:41.000 It allows a local citizen to file a petition for removal on a county official, whether it's the district attorney, the county attorney, even a school board trustee within their county.

00:18:53.000 So it goes all the way back to our Texas Constitution of 1876.

00:18:58.000 It really is a citizen right that's in the Texas Constitution, but by statute.

00:19:05.000 So it allows there's certain basis.

00:19:07.000 If there is official misconduct or incompetence within that term of office, then a citizen can file this petition for removal.

00:19:15.000 It goes to a district judge, and then whether or not they kind of view the evidence initially, if it meets kind of a minimum threshold, they issue a citation to the official.

00:19:29.000 And then at that point, the county attorney, which in Texas, some counties have a county attorney, some don't, would pick up the case and essentially prosecute the case for removal.

00:19:39.000 So that's what's happened in Nueces County.

00:19:42.000 I think CCDF is well positioned to look all over the state of Texas to find those officials that are not living up to their constitutional oath, whether it's the United States Constitution or the Texas Constitution to fulfill their duties.

00:19:58.000 And we're going to look for those cases with misconduct or incompetence.

00:20:03.000 And we're going to pursue those investigations and pursue those actions.

00:20:06.000 But because at the end of the day, it's we, the people, consent of the governed.

00:20:12.000 And we take seriously, I took my oath serious as a naval officer, as a Navy JAG, and I expect all government officials and public officials to take their oath equally as serious.

00:20:22.000 So tell us about Mark Gonzalez.

00:20:25.000 Either Steve or Jonathan, you guys can chime in.

00:20:28.000 Why is it a worthwhile effort to try to remove him?

00:20:31.000 So I'll take the first crack at this, Charlie.

00:20:34.000 So I think we need to take a step back.

00:20:35.000 When you look at the state of Texas, it is critical to the nation.

00:20:40.000 And then when you look at what these NGOs and the George Source Foundation organizations, the Tides Foundation specifically, they realize the weakness.

00:20:51.000 And so Jonathan could get into this more detail, but that county, you know, the Texas Constitution takes the federalism concept all the way down to the county level.

00:21:02.000 So when things go bad down there, the Attorney General himself, you've had Dan Patrick on your show, he cannot go into that county basically without an invite.

00:21:13.000 So the enemies of freedom have found that out.

00:21:16.000 So they've been really launching.

00:21:17.000 If you take a look at the district attorneys in Texas that are under the influence of the corrupt side of the people trying to, right?

00:21:26.000 So they control the majority of the population.

00:21:30.000 So they've gone after that.

00:21:32.000 They've won that.

00:21:33.000 And now, how do you remove that?

00:21:34.000 How do you change that?

00:21:35.000 So this action by citizens is a way to do that, to correct that issue.

00:21:41.000 If this gentleman is removed, this Mark Gonzalez is removed, the governor then gets to reappoint the district attorney.

00:21:48.000 And so, but what specific, why are you guys going after him in particular?

00:21:48.000 Yeah.

00:21:53.000 That's what I was asking.

00:21:54.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 So with Mark Gonzalez, look, we're going to pursue the case where the case is.

00:22:01.000 So there's several instances of incompetence.

00:22:04.000 He's had a vast increase in dismissals, felony-level dismissals.

00:22:10.000 If you compare his numbers from 2021 in his current term to 2022, December 31st, 2022, to the tenure of the previous district attorney for that same two-year period, he's up 286% for felony dismissals.

00:22:27.000 His site and release program, misdemeanors, site and release, that obfuscates a lot of the criminal activity.

00:22:34.000 They're dismissing felonies down to misdemeanors.

00:22:37.000 There are several high-profile cases in Nueces County courts that have been mishandled.

00:22:42.000 You've got a case, the Breanna Wood murders, where five people have been indicted for over five years now, and the victim wants justice.

00:22:53.000 The people of Nueces County and the people of Texas want to see the rule of law enforce.

00:22:58.000 We expect our public officials to take their oath serious.

00:23:01.000 We expect the highest ethical and moral standards.

00:23:06.000 And that's all we ask.

00:23:07.000 We want to live in safe streets.

00:23:09.000 This is part of a larger growth of soft on crime approach that we've seen across the United States.

00:23:15.000 I think this is related to what you see in Atlanta now.

00:23:20.000 I mean, the soft on crime approach where no bail.

00:23:22.000 All of these things are coming to a head.

00:23:24.000 And I think a lot of the prosecutors are using their authority in Texas at the county level to essentially nullify the will of the Texas legislature that represents the people across the state and the governor that signs these laws into place, particularly with the abortion law that went into effect when Roeby Wade was rescinded.

00:23:48.000 And you see, with the transgender care, I mean, Mark Gonzalez in particular has said on both those counts, I'm the district attorney.

00:23:56.000 I have to invite in Ken Paxton, the attorney general of the state of Texas, to prosecute these cases, and I'm just not going to invite him in.

00:24:04.000 So when you have that kind of mindset, that you're not going to follow the law, duly enacted law of the state of Texas.

00:24:11.000 I think it's expected that you should have a petition for removal in your county because the citizens of the state and the citizens of your county expect you as the chief of law enforcement officer of your county to enforce the law.

00:24:25.000 The soft on crime approach may work in San Francisco.

00:24:29.000 It doesn't work.

00:24:31.000 It doesn't work in Texas.

00:24:32.000 And I will say, look, I have their book.

00:24:35.000 I bought their book to find out their mindset because that's what you should do.

00:24:40.000 And Mark Gonzalez is, and this is the Fair and Just Prosecution Organization where they want to reimage a lot of these counties through the district attorney.

00:24:50.000 And look, that's just you're traveling to Fulton County.

00:24:58.000 This is the blueprint, which is counties, local action, find where they've infiltrated and remove them one by one by one.

00:25:06.000 Now, that's just one example of many things you guys do and the really important work you do.

00:25:11.000 But you're going to Fulton County to try to get rid of some of these lunatics there. 0.72

00:25:15.000 Tell us about that. 0.97

00:25:16.000 That's correct.

00:25:18.000 Our mission is to shine light on everything and transparency.

00:25:22.000 And then when we find breaches of liberty or breaches of freedom, we try to resolve them quietly.

00:25:27.000 If that doesn't work, we take on the media and we take that issue and take it nationally.

00:25:33.000 If that doesn't work, we turn to our legal team and say, let's go after them.

00:25:37.000 So our mission really is not to, it's just to hold our elected officials accountable to the founding documents, to the state statutes, the local statutes and ordinances.

00:25:46.000 They're not doing that.

00:25:47.000 They're ignoring it.

00:25:48.000 You see that all over the country with school boards.

00:25:50.000 The state will say this, state board of education will say this.

00:25:54.000 The local school board will do that.

00:25:56.000 So we determined early on when we were taking a study and looking at the situation, the only resolution is the people getting involved.

00:26:05.000 But when they do, they have to have more than a meeting at the school board.

00:26:09.000 There has to be meat and potatoes.

00:26:10.000 We have to be able to enforce the laws. 0.86

00:26:14.000 Our elected officials are not doing it.

00:26:16.000 So who's left to do it?

00:26:17.000 We have to do it.

00:26:18.000 So at the national level, we said we have to put a strong team together.

00:26:23.000 So when that mom or dad is talking to that school board about an issue where they're not following the law or the ordinance, they have to have some place to turn to for help.

00:26:35.000 So that's what this whole CCDeaf concept is about.

00:26:39.000 We want to help support and empower the citizen to take their country back.

00:26:44.000 And all we have to do is hold people accountable to, in most cases, the rules and laws that are already on the books that the local folks are choosing not to follow.

00:26:53.000 I encourage everyone in our audience to check out ccdfusa.com and get involved.

00:26:59.000 And you guys can also text Texas to 53445.

00:27:04.000 It's so important.

00:27:06.000 You have to get involved on the local level.

00:27:08.000 People ask us all the time, Charlie, what do I do?

00:27:10.000 What do I do?

00:27:11.000 The Republican Party is largely a waste of time.

00:27:13.000 This is real action.

00:27:14.000 This is real stuff.

00:27:16.000 This is actually focusing on citizen engagement, on shining a light, having real action, not just this superfluous nonsense that happens far too often in our country.

00:27:26.000 So, Jonathan and Steve, stay right there.

00:27:28.000 Again, the website is ccdfusa.com.

00:27:32.000 You'll also see that we have our Turning Point USA logo on there because we're honored to be partner with you guys in many different ways.

00:27:38.000 So, check it out, ccdfusa.com.

00:27:43.000 Hey, everybody, Charlie Kirk here.

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00:28:42.000 Finish that thought, ccdfusa.com.

00:28:45.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:28:47.000 I'd like to give people hope and good news as well.

00:28:49.000 So there's 3,343 counties in the nation.

00:28:53.000 In 143 of those counties, 50% of our population live.

00:28:57.000 So we've targeted 100 strategic counties that we need to be in in 10 states to make a major impact in the United States and turn the ship back to the right correct direction.

00:29:10.000 Charlie, we're not tied to a political party.

00:29:12.000 I want to make that mention as well.

00:29:14.000 We are just citizens.

00:29:15.000 We hold people to the founding documents.

00:29:17.000 We believe in this country.

00:29:19.000 We believe in the precepts of this country.

00:29:22.000 And we hold people to those founding documents.

00:29:24.000 The other hope I want to give people, Charlie, is the good news is we don't have to change all the people.

00:29:29.000 If you are a child of God, if you believe in God and believe in his sovereignty, he makes a promise in the owner's manual, I call it.

00:29:39.000 He says, if my people who are called by my name will own themselves and pray and seek my face, I'll hear and I'll heal their land.

00:29:46.000 So we challenge our people, look internally, begin seeking after God.

00:29:51.000 Matter of fact, Oswald Chambers is a great devotional that we promote, and we're getting all of our citizens on it.

00:29:56.000 My utmost for his highest.

00:29:58.000 We need our nation to begin seeking God again.

00:30:01.000 And the promise is he will show up.

00:30:03.000 But he expects us to do our part.

00:30:07.000 But we don't have to be everywhere, but we do need to be in certain areas.

00:30:11.000 And we're looking forward to pushing forward and getting these 10 states in place as soon as possible.

00:30:17.000 It's one of the most important projects happening in the country.

00:30:20.000 I put it right up with the work our kids are doing at Turning Point USA, which is the county work.

00:30:25.000 It's the grassroots work.

00:30:27.000 It is the machinery.

00:30:29.000 It's also thankless in some ways because people say, oh, you know, it's nitty-gritty.

00:30:33.000 But no, no, no, this is the hustle that's going to win back America.

00:30:36.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:37.000 I mean, I kind of related to what an operational cycle will be in the military, right?

00:30:42.000 We have county folks on the ground.

00:30:45.000 They're finding the problems.

00:30:46.000 They're fixing the problems.

00:30:48.000 They're looking at them from the county level, at the grassroots level.

00:30:52.000 And then if there's a legal finish, there's a legal finish.

00:30:55.000 And that's why it's important to have an organization with a legal department, but also has those folks in the counties that are finding those problems so we can fix them as quickly as possible.

00:31:06.000 Take the Matthew 18 approach, but we try and resolve them quietly without public fanfare and hopefully get the official back in compliance.

00:31:14.000 If that doesn't work, then we bring legal involved and we have to.

00:31:18.000 Unfortunately, that's where we are today.

00:31:21.000 We have to counter lawfare with lawfare.

00:31:24.000 And a lot of the problems we see are the effects of lawfare and using statutes and laws to work around the liberty of people and constitutional rights of people.

00:31:37.000 So we're going to counter that every chance we get.

00:31:39.000 So, Steve, in closing here, one of the themes we've been building out this entire hour is the fourth branch of government, is these unelected bureaucrats that do whatever they want.

00:31:51.000 The counties can serve as a check and balance.

00:31:54.000 The counties are sovereignly created, piece of infrastructure that often get overlooked.

00:32:04.000 And they're municipalities that have huge amounts of influence for the trajectory of the nation.

00:32:10.000 It's a unique role, isn't it?

00:32:12.000 Counties are really going to determine the future of America and our beautiful republic.

00:32:17.000 That's exactly right.

00:32:18.000 It's how our founders set it up.

00:32:20.000 And so, and I'll give you a prime example of what you're talking about.

00:32:23.000 We had one of our counties.

00:32:25.000 There was a curriculum that was coming down the pike that the United Nations actually created, went to the federal Department of Education, went through an NGO, and then tried to slip into a school board in Texas, another Texas case.

00:32:38.000 And our people showed up and gathered a bunch of pastors and they voted it down 7-0.

00:32:44.000 So you're telling me a citizens group took on the United Nations, the Federal Department of Education, a private NGO-funded operation, and shut it down.

00:32:54.000 That's a prime example of the local action and why it's so important.

00:32:59.000 CCDFUSA.com.

00:33:02.000 Just in closing, Steve, you need help.

00:33:04.000 You need support.

00:33:05.000 Jonathan, you're doing a lot of work in Texas.

00:33:07.000 This is national.

00:33:08.000 We're going to help every way we possibly can.

00:33:10.000 I've been texting you for a while, Steve.

00:33:11.000 Come on the show.

00:33:12.000 Come on the show.

00:33:13.000 You guys have an open invite.

00:33:15.000 And I know that you guys want to focus on doing the work and not always just like seeking the cameras out, but you do need the help.

00:33:23.000 You need the support.

00:33:24.000 And so just brick by brick, county by county, this is exactly what Soros and their Luciferian agenda has done for quite some time, where they put money into counties and they don't know.

00:33:36.000 Now we have to take those counties back.

00:33:38.000 It's going to start with the people.

00:33:39.000 Steve and Jonathan, thank you so much.

00:33:41.000 Website one more time, ccdfusa.com.

00:33:43.000 Thank you guys.

00:33:44.000 Thank you.

00:33:46.000 God bless.

00:33:46.000 God bless you too.

00:33:48.000 Thanks so much for listening, everybody.

00:33:49.000 Email me your thoughts as always, freedom at charliekirk.com.

00:33:52.000 Thanks so much for listening and God bless.

00:33:57.000 For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to CharlieKirk. com.

The Charlie Kirk Show - January 25, 2023

Smashing the Soros DAs with CCDF-USA's Steve Maxwell and Jonathan Hullihan

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