Darren Beattie and Lance Wall unpack a massive lie and smear to try to derail the Mastriano campaign in Pennsylvania, and then we talk about how the feds might be involving themselves in the midterms.
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00:01:37.000So it's well known that we are big fans of Doug Mastriano.
00:01:42.000And Doug Mastriano has been accused wrongly for weeks.
00:01:46.000This is a building synthetic narrative of him being an anti-Semite.
00:02:22.000Now, for those of you that might be in Presbyterian or Episcopalian or Catholic circles, I know it might be unusual to see people raise their hands when they pray.
00:02:31.000No offense to our wonderful Catholics out there.
00:02:34.000But it's very common in Pentecostal circles.
00:04:34.000The anti-Semites in America bringing in the part Jewish people to help seal the deal with a Nazi salute.
00:04:44.000For our audience out there, Lance, it's so disgusting and gross what they're saying that they're doing a prayer and they call it a Hitler salute.
00:07:44.000And what happens in Little Roundtop in Arizona and in Georgia and in Pennsylvania is the Gettysburg battles that are going to determine the future of America.
00:07:53.000And I said, let's pray to God right now that we will move in unity and not be intimidated by our enemies.
00:07:58.000Put your hand up in the air on the count of three.
00:08:01.000Father, I pray that you will grant to us unity and courage to move as one.
00:08:05.000On the count of three, let's say as one.
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00:12:09.000I mean, pick a sub, any page at all, pick a number, pick a number, any page.
00:12:13.000Just give me some, give me some teaching from that book because the translation of it is: there are morals, there are ethics, there are values that we should be teaching, and that we should be a people.
00:12:26.000He warned that if we go in the direction these clergy are taking us, you will be despised and you will be trodden underfoot of men.
00:12:34.000If you are not salt, if you're not an interesting, engaging, winsome, at times agitating contrast to the world around you, if you don't challenge the culture in an interesting way and get it thinking, they will despise you.
00:12:48.000They will treat you as though you're irrelevant.
00:12:51.000And that's part of the reason why I find this.
00:12:53.000Listen, man, the way that they treat us now in the media, but then your show, you're covering stuff in some recent interviews you've done, like with Manaford.
00:13:02.000Look at how they deal with our people from Mike Flynn to Manaford to Papadopoulos, Roger Stone, January 6th.
00:13:27.000So then they say, well, it's not clear which political party we should support, Lance.
00:13:33.000It's clearly, and I just had this discussion with a biblical scholar, and I had to, I had that, actually, actually wasn't a biblical scholar, the BBC.
00:15:00.000I think like there's those 3.5 million people that are watching that stupid Twitter thing that's saying that I'm doing a Nazi salute, even though I'm part Jewish.
00:15:08.000I think the left is just listening to themselves.
00:15:11.000I believe that the Elon Musks and the Joe Rogans, I think there's a whole group out there that are a great canary in the coal mine in terms of where the independents and where the Democrats and where the non-politically aligned people are.
00:15:25.000I think that they're coming out for us.
00:15:26.000That's why the attack is so vicious and so foul right now to try to smear MAGA candidates.
00:15:32.000The good news is nobody really respects media.
00:15:34.000So as much as they talk, nobody's listening to them.
00:15:37.000So I believe we're going to see a victory.
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00:17:01.000So, I want to talk to you about this one particular story.
00:17:04.000Is it true that the federal beer investigation is misrepresenting what might be considered white supremacy arrests or incidents in their reports to make it seem as if there's a bigger problem than there actually is?
00:17:18.000Well, it certainly seems that way on the basis of whistleblower accounts.
00:17:22.000And just to contextualize all of this, this alleged national security threat posed by white supremacy dates back to really the Trump presidency, where the DHS, the Department of Homeland Security, which is a national security bureaucracy set up in the aftermath of 9-11 to protect us against foreign terrorism, declared that white supremacy was the number one threat.
00:17:50.000And since the DHS declared this, a number of other national security institutions have followed suit.
00:17:56.000Now, evidently, the FBI is getting on board.
00:18:00.000And the problem with white supremacy is there's just not the supply to meet the demand.
00:18:08.000And it can be manufactured the kind of laborious way of actually setting up entrapment schemes like what we see the FBI did in the Michigan Whitmer case.
00:18:20.000But the easier way to do it is just cook the books and manufacture the numbers and count certain things as white supremacist terror when they really have nothing to do with it to feed into the desired narrative.
00:18:32.000The desired narrative being our number one threat is white supremacist terror.
00:18:37.000And by that, they mean anyone who dares question immigration, anyone who's pro-Trump, anyone who's had enough of the corrupt and feckless Biden regime.
00:18:49.000And they want to label us as domestic terrorists so they can continue to weaponize the entire machinery of our national security state against us.
00:19:00.000And I'm very glad that whistleblowers are starting to come out and expose the truth of just how dirty and corrupt these institutions like the FBI really are.
00:19:10.000And so speaking of whistleblowers, and we made this point last week, which is every time you focus on issuing a subpoena to a Trump supporter, by definition, in a world of limited time, energy, and resources, you must allocate in a hierarchy of what you value.
00:19:24.000You must then turn your back on something else or you must disregard something else.
00:19:27.000We made a whole show on that last week, and it turns out we were totally right.
00:19:32.000The FBI is moving agents off of child sex abuse cases to investigate domestic violent extremism.
00:19:39.000So, Darren, the FBI is no longer allocating resources on child sex abuse, but they are allocating people on this idea of fake electors.
00:19:52.000Well, yeah, I mean, it just stands to reason.
00:19:54.000There's only a limited amount of time, a limited amount of resources, and it's all a question of prioritization.
00:20:01.000And from the standpoint of a politicized and corrupt FBI, reinforcing the politically useful narrative of casting the enemies of the Democrats as national security threats is far more valuable use of their time than just routine policing of criminality, even the most heinous forms of criminality, such as child abuse.
00:20:29.000The political objectives supersede all other objectives because it's through the political narrative that they maintain their power.
00:20:37.000Yeah, so let's talk about how the FBI has and has a track record of and federal law enforcement of infiltrating groups.
00:20:45.000You've done probably the best reporting on the Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping situation.
00:20:49.000Refresh our audience on that because I'm afraid that there might be a midterm intervention on behalf of federal law enforcement into MAGA groups to create something that is synthetic and artificial.
00:21:03.000And I have to commend you for your excellent op-ed that was running Revolver warning about this exact type of scenario.
00:21:10.000I think the silver lining of the Michigan entrapment hoax operation, and just to refresh people's memories, this was the biggest story.
00:21:19.000This is the biggest national security story in the country for a long time.
00:21:24.000It was conveniently timed to coincide, like basically the month before the presidential election in November.
00:21:31.000They arrested all of these so-called plotters around October, convenient political timing.
00:21:38.000And it was the biggest domestic national security story in recent history.
00:21:43.000And they said, oh, these domestic MAGA-adjacent terrorists are trying to kidnap and possibly murder the governor.
00:21:51.000Well, it turns out, as we've learned through the course of the trial, that majority of these so-called plotters were either federal agents or federal informants.
00:22:05.000And even more outrageously, every single critical step of this so-called plot was undertaken not by the alleged plotters, but by either the informants or the agents themselves.
00:22:20.000And that goes from the meetings through which the people met each other, the suggestion that they use explosives, the instruction on how to manufacture explosives, giving them money in order to buy explosives, and they didn't even want to buy the explosives.
00:22:38.000The culmination of the whole sordid affair, there's they're driving in a car, the driver of the car is a Fed, driving the defendant to another Fed who's an undercover explosive person.
00:22:54.000And the defendants didn't even bring the amount of money that they would have needed in order to buy the explosives.
00:22:59.000It's an important thing, though, Darren.
00:23:01.000I want to just pause you for a second here that our audience needs to understand.
00:23:04.000We're not defending people that might be involved in this stuff, but it buzzed by the question, Darren, would it have happened without the federal government's involvement?
00:23:12.000I mean, I think in the specific case of the Michigan scenario, the answer is clearly no.
00:23:18.000And I think it was right before an election, remember?
00:23:20.000They did and they announced this, and then it all came out.
00:23:23.000And so it does beg a question: are they currently provoking, infiltrating, instigating, or sometimes outright plotting and planning?
00:23:35.000Darren, what is the law when it comes to the FBI?
00:23:38.000Are they able to infiltrate anything for any time?
00:24:13.000I mean, entrapment is a very specific type of action.
00:24:18.000Entrapment is not the feds having an agent or informant embedding himself in these groups and just quietly watching, seeing what they're doing and preventing something that could be catastrophic.
00:24:30.000What entrapment is, is what happened in the Michigan case, which is proactive involvement to the degree that there wouldn't even be a plot to prevent had it not been for the active steps undertaken by feds and their informants, who have an absolute, the informants have an absolute financial incentive to do so, and the feds have a political incentive to do so.
00:24:52.000Because again, as you're saying, the demand far exceeds the supply when it comes to not only white supremacist ideology, but also the types of so-called domestic terror threats that feed into the narrative that anyone who's adjacent to Trump needs to be crushed by the national security apparatus.
00:25:12.000Yeah, and that's, I think, the most troubling development for a lot of conservatives because, Darren, there's this tension, and maybe you can walk us through this, the difference between local police and national police, is that we do like order.
00:25:30.000But now we're without a shadow of a doubt, this has now become a Soviet-style institution with a primary focus of exterminating political dissidents.
00:25:43.000And so, Darren, can you help reconcile for some of our audience that's struggling with how do I support my local police?
00:25:49.000How do I support the people that are doing a good job or not?
00:25:52.000Or are they all bad versus this sort of operation at the top levels of the Bureau?
00:25:58.000And I mean, I think the tension really runs to a very deep and core level of the political psychology of the right, which, as you say, the right, unlike the left, which to be generous to the left, they like to think of themselves as criticizing corrupt institutions of authority.
00:26:20.000Whereas the right likes to think of itself as venerating just institutions of authority.
00:26:26.000And so the question is: what do you do when these authoritative institutions have become not only corrupt, but actively hostile and weaponized against the right itself?
00:26:35.000That's a very difficult position to be in.
00:26:39.000I think part of the answer to that is that there's no fealty or loyalty or obligation owed to institutions as such.
00:26:48.000We want to support what is right, what is just, and be against what is corrupt.
00:26:55.000And insofar as the FBI is corrupt, we have to work against it.
00:27:00.000Insofar as the local police are not corrupt, we support them.
00:27:04.000And so what happens when an institution is so corrupt that it's basically not even salvageable, which could very well be the case for the FBI?
00:27:14.000Well, then we have to get into the minutiae of, well, what do you do with a bureaucracy that's in that state?
00:27:20.000And I had a conversation with Congressman Gates about this.
00:27:24.000I think it's hard because the people with the sort of deep institutional knowledge that's required to really overhaul an institution like the FBI, the people with that level of institutional knowledge are typically on the wrong side of the battle here.
00:27:43.000And there are a lot of people who just understand, oh, the FBI is corrupt.
00:27:47.000Oh, the FBI is basically borderline illegitimate at this point.
00:27:50.000It's functioning as a Gestapo for the Biden regime, the Democrats, and so forth.
00:27:54.000All of that is mostly true, but it's the indignation is not enough.
00:27:59.000I think to really do something meaningful, it requires a kind of expertise, institutional knowledge, a sensitivity to that ecology that exists within Washington, that economy of favors, IOUs, and leverage that you really need to get anything done on a deep level.
00:28:21.000So, Darren, I don't know if you heard that list of five things of potential things Democrats could do to interrupt the midterm elections.
00:28:27.000Do you have any thoughts on that January 6th committee report in looming indictments, ballots and mules, social media suppression and intervention, and also a federal event infiltrated MAGA groups?
00:28:38.000Pick any one of the five if you want of what you think might be a big threat that could stop a looming red wave.
00:28:44.000Well, I think all of those are a distinct possibility, and some of them feed into each other.
00:28:48.000For instance, the very live possibility of an indictment of, say, Donald Trump could serve as a pretext for some kind of attack that the regime would then blame on MAGA supporters.
00:29:07.000That's a very real scenario that I could see.
00:29:09.000And of course, social media censorship is always not only a live possibility, but a very distinct reality that tends to experience acceleration in the immediate months before a major political event, as we saw the big censorship of the Hunter Biden story, which is the most notorious.
00:29:34.000And so that's always something to look out for.
00:29:36.000That is, you know, it's funny, there's a lot of conversation about election fraud, and I think it's entirely legitimate and healthy to have that conversation.
00:29:45.000But really, I think the extreme social media censorship and just how asymmetrical it is with respect to viewpoint, I think that in itself is really a version of election fraud that perhaps supersedes the more direct versions that we tend to talk about.
00:30:03.000It makes it very difficult to have a broadly informed citizenry when the major platforms of mass communication are favoring so strongly one side over the other.
00:30:18.000And so ultimately, this needs to be addressed.
00:30:21.000There are some encouraging signs from a recent Court of Appeals decision that you might be aware of.
00:30:32.000It's a major bottleneck that has to be done.
00:30:34.000Tell our audience about that Court of Appeals decision.
00:30:37.000Yeah, so in a nutshell, Texas basically passed a law saying that social media companies of a certain size, I think it's over 50 million users, can't engage in certain forms of viewpoint-oriented censorship.
00:31:02.000The Supreme Court actually chimed in a couple months ago and said, okay, we're enjoining the law for now, meaning it doesn't, it's not taken into effect.
00:31:12.000Interestingly enough, Elena Kagan was actually on the good side, and Barrett and Kavanaugh were on the bad side, at least insofar as that specific injunction goes.
00:31:26.000Now, most recently, there was an actual opinion in the Court of Appeals based in New Orleans, I think it's the Fifth Circuit, basically upholding the law.
00:31:38.000And so the decision itself was very sound.
00:31:42.000It reflects a lot of the things that we've been saying in terms of: look, you know, if you're basically a common carrier, if you're of a certain size, if you play such a role in mass communication, then it's entirely legitimate for a state to pass a law of this sort, given the way that the internet is already regulated.
00:32:03.000But really, it's going to come down to the Supreme Court, which is going to take the case.
00:32:08.000And I expect that while the Supreme Court is hearing it, there's going to be this injunction reinstated.
00:32:16.000So the law won't be in effect either way until the Supreme Court makes the decision.
00:32:21.000But hopefully the Supreme Court will follow the reasoning expressed in the Court of Appeals decision.
00:32:28.000And if the Supreme Court actually does the right thing on this, which is a big if, now keep in mind, Kavanaugh and Barrett were not on the right side as far as the specific injunction goes.